Trying to FIX This BANDAI Sub Attack Game From 1982 | Warning: Graphic Scenes of Sellotape
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- Опубликовано: 5 сен 2024
- Remember kids, Sellotape is not very good at soldering components in place.
This Bandai Sub Attack (also known as Sub Patrol and U-Boat) Electronic Game from 1982 doesn't start up and has no sound. Will I be able to repair it?
Hope you enjoy!
Steve
PS. I'm not an expert in repairs at all. I do this for fun, and it may not be the best or safest way to go about repairing broken stuff. I'm pretty good at melting plastic though. Please don't copy me - I'm an idiot.
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Soldering is clearly overhyped. Taping the components down has many advantages.
Things are way easier to replace and fix. No special tools/skills required.
You can use less heat-resistant components, making things cheaper.
Tape is non-conducting, reducing the risk of electric shock.
Accidentally bridging contacts with solder is no issue anymore.
You can run 1 strip of tape several times around the board, securing all components at once.
No more burnt hands from holding the soldering iron the wrong way.
You can get tape with your name printed on, so everybody can see who did a magnificent taping job.
My brother-in-law sells tape, so he's going to make more money.
I see only pros, no cons!
No burnt hands LMAO
good one, next time i will try the taping method :)
Do you recommend a good tape that I could use to tape them down? I'm repairing a power supply.
@@yummyklown9226Lots of people will try to sell you expensive "professional" tape. But any ol' tape will do. Just make sure to lick the sticky side. Licking the other side is optional.
My fingers started twitching at the sight of that game in action. Some old and very strongly reinforced muscle memory that decades of visits to the pub couldn't erase. Cheers
That Sellotape from the previous owner takes bodging to a new level! Even I know you never bodge with anything less than gaffer tape 🤣
Ah, yes, the age-old method of sellotaping stuff back together and hoping it works! 😂 I have to agree, gaffer tape would've worked much better! 🤣
Everyone knows, you fix everything with Duct Tape !! 🤣
Everybody knows foil tape is the best option for electronics
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The capacitor that you removed looked like it said 22uF instead of 2.2uF. Maybe it was just the camera angle, but I didn't see a decimal point. Not sure if that would make a difference anyway. Either way, thanks for another great video and hope you feel better soon!
Thanks David! I noticed that too when I was editing it, but I double checked the one I took out and it was 2.2uF. Must've been the angle of the camera! 👍
May I ask was that an app you was using to calculate the resistor, if so may I ask the name of this. Thank you n great video
@@michaelknowles1651 Hi Michael! Thank you! 👍 The app is called Resistor Code Calculator. It's one of th free ones on Google Play. Seems to work well. 👍
@@StezStixFix Very much appreciated, this will come in handle. Thank you and hope your feeling/getting better.
@@StezStixFix As a fellow console repairer with over 20 years electronics experience (Navy trained), I saw that cap and was immediately concerned you were replacing a 22uf with a 2.2. Having rewatched that section, I have to disagree with the above comment, that is indeed a 22uf cap. The 22 is printed multiple times and nowhere inbetween any instance of them is there a dot, as there is inbetween the 6.3v, camera angle isn't the issue. Not to call you out or anything, if it works in the end, great. But lower capacitance values in a circuit such as that can lead to issues down the line. Next time, please triple check and make sure you're using the right cap to avoid issues in the future.
I have one of these Sub Attack games. I got it way back in about 1982 or perhaps 83 as a birthday or Christmas gift when I was about 10. I live in Australia so perhaps it was from my Aunt who was in Canada at the time
Chip number is Ford "Silk beige paint' 🤣
🤣 bound to come in useful for someone! 😂
That was a good fix and in situations where you can’t be sure of the expected behaviour it can be tricky to know how successful you’ve been. I’ve noticed that track damage near to places where people press on a board can generate mechanical wear even though the flexing feels trivial. If it comes back to you again just add a couple bits of wire avoiding that area of the board altogether.... remember the original designers wanted something that would be in the shops fast and as long as it worked for a year they were happy ... so many decades on extra reinforcements may well be the way to go.
Keep up the great work 👍😀
Thanks Chris! Good shout, I suppose adding a couple of wires too would give it that extra bit of security! Appreciate the tip! 👍
@@tarstarkusz These ones had no battery as solar powered, but at least the cap didn't ooze it's oozy mess all over the board.
Nice work, getting better and better with the trace repair!
Thanks Micro! I definitely feel more comfortable with it now. Gotta keep having a go! 👍
I had this as a kid! And I've been trying to remember what it was I had for over 30 years! RUclips is the goldmine of nostalgia that keeps on giving. ,_,
yet another great fix, you dry humour is awesome mate.
Thanks Rory! Much appreciated 😁
Reminds me of our old Vic-20 which clearly had a loose solder joint in the RF box. If you pushed down from the top the picture would come on but otherwise not. So my Dad not being an electrical type (and this was like 1987) taped the thing up tight and then for more pressure to the floor (this was the era of 'TVs are furniture') just in front of the TV. Worked like a charm. Hhehehehe.
Another great fix, Captain Bodge! We're gonna need a smaller bit! Nice detail! 😀🐟🐠🐡🐋🐳🐬
😁 🦈 thanks Pedro! I probably laughed a bit too much at it myself 😂
Great fix mate made me chuckle about the paint 😂👍🏻
😄 Cheers mate! 👍
What an amazing device - almost 40 years old.
Nice fix Steve! You always make me laugh 😅
Thanks Geoneo! 😁
I don't know how to feel, seeing a gaming relic and realized I'm actually older than it.
My body does feel like it got held together with tons of sellotape tho
Good to see this fix there Steve and sellotape , hope you get better soon mate - Nice 1 👍
Thanks Chris! Feeling a bit better today, getting back to my normal self! 👍
I had a MIDI rack unit with an intermittent mains power problem. When I took it apart, the connector on the PCB had a dry solder joint so some genius put a screw in to wedge it and a bit of tape to isolate the screw - genius.
I've got this, and a Egyptian one..The first stage, there are two, you have to move around the cabin to fix the leaks. The second stage I vaguely remembers has you shooting torpedoes.
Sorry to hear you’re not feeling good!
Thanks Keiron. I'm feeling a bit better today! 👍
silk beige is a great name for a post-punk jazz revival duo :)
...and charge him a £100. 🤣
Great video Steve!
😁 thanks Travis! 😂👍
Your humour is bang on! Good job as always buddy!
😊 Cheers Wayne! Much appreciated mate... 👍
🤣Silk Beige...I'll remember that one!
Solar power in 1982 in a game ..??..never knew solar was that old lol
Maybe I'm crazy, but I swear one of the ceramic caps to the right of the screen was charred and cracked on one of the leads. Didn't look like the connection was completely severed though. I noticed it at 6:34
Something I've wondered about for a while now is the possibility of using a high temperature epoxy to bond the pads back to the circuit board for mechanically fixing on these one-sided boards. The resistor here would've been a prime candidate for experimentation. Has anybody tried such a technique?
Thanks GB. That definitely sounds interesting, hopefully someone will be able to give some insight! 👍
It can be done. Superglue under the ripped pads / traces works as well but the fumes are nasty.
Those piezo speakers generally need to be attached to something securely, like the case, to be able to hear them properly.
Get well soon buddy
Another project from your friend, Kimberly. Rest in peace comedian Victoria Wood.
All these noobs using solder. The real pros use Scotch tape. 😂🤣
I might respray my car beige, if I can a-Ford it... Maybe that's a paint chip... I'll get my coat.
You're getting pretty handy with those trace soldering jobs. 🤘😎 Nice on Stez.
Get well soon buddy.
🤣 Thanks Toxo! 😁 I definitely feel more confident with the trace soldering, but I'm gonna need more practice with the sticky back plastic I think! 😬
@@StezStixFix 😂
The trick with sticky back plastic is to have one you prepared earlier. 😝 Is Blue Peter still a thing? I think the last time I saw it Matt Baker was still on it.
😂 yeah, I think it's still a thing. I remember the Tracey Island they built out of used toilet rolls and cereal packets. Incredible stuff. 😬
@@StezStixFix It's amazing how much junk they kept out of landfill whilst creating pretty decent things, as with Art Attack and Tony Hart/SmArt too.
Long before people started making weird stuff and calling it "rustic".
join you? on the darkside? do you have cookies? i remember those solar powered flip games as a kid
😂 You don't know the POWER of the darkside! I never had one of these solar powered ones. Seems like a really neat idea to save on those littel button cell batteries. And it seems to work well! 👍
nice one love the sellotape
You should be able to fix that with the one pump technique
Great job
09:14 I think you forgot to solder that track that goes under the condenser. Maybe it's the sound. 22uF capacitor, not 2.2uF.
When you tried the piezzo speaker you need to get it inside to work. The piezo speaker needs to be in contact with a bigger area to work
Aaaah! Thanks Renata, that makes sense! 👍
@@StezStixFix Thanks to Vincent I know now
I had this game as a kid.
Great video as usual Steve,
Thanks RB! 👍
I was going to buy a soldering kit but then I saw a roll of sellotape on offer so got that instead.
With most of the pads being still attached. I would have superglued it back in place then jumper it after glue cured.
Could you not superglue the pads back, which would stop them moving about while you solder the wires on?
I am commenting to increase engagement! ENGAGE!
😁 thanks Stonecold! Always appreciate a bit of engagement! 👍
Nice little game l like it 👍
I always thought it was CELLOTAPE. 😂
I think the tape was to just hold the resistor in place ready for a later repair.
Your voice fits good to you:)
Not using duct tape is where the previous owner went wrong. That stuff fixes all
You sound how I feel Brother Steve 💩 Hey! At least the sellotape saved the component. That was a big! save too! or you'd be chasing the right value(s) 🖖👍🏻
Hmm Nice Hair (That's what she said) 'It's Hard' She also said that too! 😂 I'm going sleep now! I've been playing INSIDE for 12.7 hours time passed so fast!
😁 Thanks Steve! I've been in for the vast majority of this heatwave feeling 💩 need to get outside! Yeah, I suppose the sellotape did keep the resistor contained! Happy I got this working, I've kinda fallen in love with it. 👍
I have been going out, just not to places that are enjoyable. I could hear and see the enjoyment come flowing out of you! right, when the sound come out 😊 I've been playing' Monkey Island SE Then thought I'd give INSIDE a try. O.M.G that game! Talk about puzzling. It was a great experience very, very challenging 👍🏻
Ooh. Inside sounds interesting! I thought you meant in the house! 🤣. I'll have a look at that! 👍
LMAO!! 🤣🤣 You Plonker 😁 But honestly I can see what you mean now I read it back 🤦🏻♂️ On a fun note I can play it outside on my alien laptop but, I don't! wish to torture it, in this heat right now 👍🏻
Playing inside outside sounds like a good plan! 🤣 But yeah, it's certainly scorchio out there again today! 🔥
I believe that would be "cellotape" :D
That capacitor looks more like 22 uF than 2.2uF.
Loving the Body Count shirt....
Danke!
It looks like the factory destroyed a trace to make a hole for the capacitor. How weird.
You should take advantage of the rough sounding voice. Bust out the karaoke machine and do some Barry White. 😁
🤣🤣 Can't beat a bit of Bazza White! "You're the first, my last, my everything!" I think I'll give it a go! 😂
That is a Hitachi chip Steve.
Hitachi logo that.
I think you missed to repair one track at 11:09 you added a wire on the resistor but on bottom there is also a damaged track and you just positioned it without solder or wire. Am i wrong steve ?
Did you test the resistor at all,
I’m not sure how often you get asked this, and I’m so sorry if it’s annoying at this point- but is it possible to ship damaged consoles out to you? Definitely definitely would pay for the trouble
😁 I do get asked quite a bit, but I don't mind! I only do repairs for fun, so don't like working on other people's devices in case i mess it up! I'm looking at getting a PO Box set up at some point where people can send me stuff, but that would only be stuff they don't mind getting more broken! 😬
@@StezStixFix what’s all this 100-pounds nonsense then!
nice
It would have been quite handy if SMD components existed back then?
Thank you man, i love these solarpower games.
I think 1/ the original speaker was ok but needed to be cleaned from corrosion.
2/ the mistake i think you made when you tested your speaker from tiger game, is that you just forgot how to start the game. It seems you did not pushed acl , select, and right or left.
I did not see you push the select area inside and that is why the game did not start, so no sound.
I may be wrong...
Anyway there are 4 big games with 2 real superposed different lcd screens.
And 5 middle/small games with 2 screens smartly alternating on the same 1 and only lcd. (Like yours there).
That is an old Hitatchi logo on the chip
What's your scope's brand?
It's an Andonstar AD407 👍
How are his video ending up on my recommandation?
WOW
Think that capacitor might have actually been 22uF/6.3V, but it still works with the 2.2uF/50V, so: meh.
Do Steve play guitar? I think theres one on his wall.
hungover af. lol
I get where your coming from with the sellotape but it’s a game that was made for kids and when a 10 year old try’s to fix it cause that resistor broke they thought sellotape might work seen as I tried to fix my toys when they broke and I couldn’t repair toys like this when I was 10. So making a big deal out of it when you don’t know who’s tried to fix it is a bit ridiculous.
heating the chip?
What do you do with all the fixed gadgets? Sell them again on ebay?
Body Count for life!
Looks like a mini-tricorder from Star Trek...
I thinck the capacitor it,s 22uF, no 2.2
Well don't let the friend who keeps sitting on his electronics play with it. Lol
That was 22uf, not 2.2uf.
The guy a bought it off was wearing a T-shirt that said “I love sellotape” so that explains that I guess. Also, can I pay you in back rubs?
I would totally buy an I love sellotape t-shirt. In fact, I'm going to. And yes, back rubs are perfectly acceptable. 😍
Was this made by Apeture Science?
when i was a kid i had a tetris brick game and its not working so i ask my uncle to fix it.. and he just use a candle droplets to the pcb LMAO.. that was 30 years ago..
Ooo fwend! Is it your fwend? Only jealous because I don't have any.
You should use E6000 glue instead of relying on the green solder mask to keep components down. The E6000 is the best glue to use. Its strong and still flexible.
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Thanks Saad! Much appreciated 👍
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It is spelled cellotape as in cellophane
the brand is spelt with an S
Squeaking. Seen it before my journey. Onward.
Cellasolder
Charging a 100 pounds isn’t that outrageous. Just saw one on eBay for $124 plus shipping.
You should ask 250£ to be certain.
All that time you've wasted soldering on your other videos when you could have just used sellotape.
Definitely sellotaping the next one. 👍
Just get conductive hot glue and go hog wild!
2 Year old video so you probably has figured put that you can use hot glue , to secure components to the board.
In dire need of solder? Just use tape!
Who needs solder? Just use TAPE!
Hot glue it! 😂
any one tried blu-tack? ;) :D
200 pounds charge? oof
1st class video to watch thank you take care kind regards from me kenneth
Body Count rules .
did you have covid in this video?
Hes cute
Dude ,, did someone make a fake acct with your stuff and is Telling folks they won a sega console ?
Where's me jumper?
Sellotape, pffff amateur, hot glue is the stuff to use 😂