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How could anyone possibly lose a million dollars on the pokies? Honestly, you can't understand it, but that's what happened to Lana O'Shannassy. Outwardly, her life seemed so perfect. A good job, nice house, young family. But Lana had another, secret, life - one where she spent hours every day helplessly shovelling money into the poker machines.
And she's not alone. A hundred thousand here, three hundred thousand there, we found case after case of ordinary people who have lost everything because of their addiction to the pokies. And when you study the odds and the psychology of gambling, you see why you just can't win.
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The thing with gambling is no matter how much you win it is never enough, and no matter how much you lose it's always too much.
Winning a billion trillion dollars is enough. It would make winning or losing any amount after that irrelevant.
@@stant7122That has to be the most pointless comment ever
Like alcoholics ones too many and thirty ain’t enough.
I get what u mean. I work in a pub with pokies. 99% of people who win big aren't that happy, they say "well that just about covers my losses"
You nailed it. It's that immediate rush and the inevitable crash that's the hook. It's called intermittent reinforcement.
14 years later and there are 100 times as many machines. You can't beat the lobby
Australians calling poker machines "pokies" is one of the best things I've heard this month. It's the sweetest, most charming thing I've ever heard. It's as cute as a kitten's meow. I love Ozzies so much. They're such a silly funny bunch.
Depends on the Australian.
When they first started calling them “pokies” I was thinking they were talking about video poker, not slot machines.
Scottish people call them Puggies
They don't sound devastating to lives, families for sure, calling them a Pokie.
wait til you hear what they call electricians
I was at a pub recently having a beer, I watched a mother and daughter win 13k on a pokie machine. The minute she won and was paid out, the first thing she did was pump more money into the same machine. I'm not sure if it is stupidity or an addiction or a combination of the 2. Crazy.
Its gambler superstition that theyre on a hot machine and hit a streak.... its all a coinflip even tho they all have a system or theory
I was the manager of possibly highest turnover gambling pub in Kings Cross Sydney for some time back around 2010, and can honestly say I felt disgusting reconciling the pokies each morning. Some mornings after a busy 24 hour period from friday to saturday you could have up to $200,000 - $300,000 between 30 machines, sitting in cash in front of you, its hard not to feel ashamed of yourself... but when reporting figures to those above (like the guy from clubs nsw or whatever), its NEVER enough! Just take a look at how gaming rooms are run compared to the public bar... tray service, complimentary softdrinks and cakes, hot foods brought around at certain times with promotions every Tuesday and Thursday. All they care about is keeping people sitting in these rooms cut off from the world around feeding the machines every last cent. People don't understand how badly these venues manipulate their patrons and drain their pockets.
Thank you for this comment. I'm so disgusted by the people who think it's 100% the gambler's fault. They obviously don't understand anything about addiction and how the human brain works.
They are going after you…..
It is the gamblers fault, 100%. They are in the position they are in because of decisions they made. Not decisions other people made. I'm so sick and tired of people not taking responsibility for their actions. It's always somebody else's fault, You're not getting ahead because of racism or you are obese because there are fast food restaurants in every corner. This is all bullshit, you are simply making bad decisions for yourself.
Yes I also hate how gambling is becoming more and more accessible if that’s even possible at this point. I’ve struggled with addiction, not gambling, and people in my family have struggled with that as well as depression and committed suicide, so I understand the mindset. I hope that Texas never legalize casinos, I mean we have three within three hours but there’s horse racing already and poker rooms have started popping up, and we already have these “game rooms”
The worst part has got to be when 'the big jackpot' isn't enough close to enough anymore. I used to put money in machines that with max bet paid a max of $500 per spin. Lose a few hundred and that super rare max win wont even break you even after not so long. I couldn't imagine being behind hundreds of thousands, no bonus will be big enough at some point.
I took my daughter to the casino when she turned 18. I gave her the same amount as I gave myself and left the rest at home. I am not a gambler at all, but decided I must give her exposure to this while I am there to guide her. After about 15 minutes she came to me asnd said "Mum, these machines are taking all my money, lets rather go and have a milkshake." She is now 39 and I think she never went to a casino again.
Thank God she didn't win that night... Can you imagine how different things could be?
Imagine that she won that day….Hey dad this is easy money!.That’s what happened to me.I wish i lost the first time i gambled
Yep, My second job was in a pub in Liverpool, I was 18. I play them occasionally with My Brother, only ever leisure dollar. I've seen the other side of it, what comes out at end of the night... all those miserable faces walking out used to hurt My soul.
the first ten times over a couple of years, that I got dragged along to the pokies by my friends, I thought they were soooo boring. Then next thing I knew I had an addiction that has made me want to kill myself many times over twenty years. Now I am like the lady in this story - I know I just can't enter a pub or a club.
That’s what happened to me. I lost $90 in a matter of minutes. I was so upset I just threw away that much money. On the last pull I won $96 and walked away quickly lol. I was happy to leave up $6. I’ve never gone back to the casino 😂
It's no different from any addiction my addiction is/was alcohol...sadly
It's with you every minute of the day
Sports betting is with us every day
lol the host “how can it happen I can’t understand it” it’s easy you bet max and keep clicking.
The worst thing to happen in pokies,is if you have a big win, that's how it hooks you in , you forever chase that win again
Also if you lose money you can get into that vicious circle of chasing your losses but compounding it further by losing more. But yes the wins are what keeps people going and thinking they can get that win again
Then u chase the money that u have lost and it never ends
So true, I once hit the jackpot in pokie machine and since then I'm hooked.
The thing is, is to have the DISCIPLINE so the minute you hit.....you need o WALK and CASH in. That's how I do it. If I don't hit in 10 to 15 minutes. I walk. I get bored easy with gambling.....
@@user-tl7mj2bm4m easier said than done with majority of winners ,new or old, establishments,the machine design's are made to help some type of hypnosis when you play, so it's actually wiring and briefly brainwashing you,alot of money is spent specifically in that by the machine designer's and creator's,my brother's one
I know only too well about problem gambling. I first got hooked on pokies in 1973, and spent the next 45 or 46 years a slave to gambling. I would estimate I lost well over a million. I had a good position in an office with the rail way in NSW. Job was gone in a few years as I was helping myself to money that was not mine. I had a criminal record. I ended up gambling online and the stock markets. I in the end had to declare bankrupt. Spent my last months unable to work and totally penniless. I am now greatfull to be almost 5 years clean. I am on a pension and get by and manage to save a little. I am not against gambling. I am also an alcoholic, now 33 years sober. No one says ban alcohol. People are allergic to Strawberries. It would be ludicrous to ban strawberries. I know gambling and alcohol are not for me. I feel for those with a problem with any addiction.
Thank you for this story.
Pokies are all about fooling the mind and robbing you of your money. It would be easier winning Powerball than willing a $1000 on the pokies. The old mechanical pokies had fixed odds. But when Ainsworth stopped manufacturing them at their Rosebery factory and started introducing computerise pokies on the unsuspecting public with odds of one in a million or 50 in a million and plus their introduction into Hotels destroyed the casual drinker/punter and unleashed a toxic addition that only benefits the few at the pointy end of town. The 3 legal addictions are alcohol, cigarettes and gambling/pokie machines. You can only consume so much alcohol and cigarettes a day, but pokies with waste all your money and all your time.
Reintroduce the mechanical pokies and limit them to a 20-cent coin per spin. No flashing lights, no sounds and a maximum payout of $100. That will fix the problem.
Thank you for sharing. Congratulations on turning your life around!
At 6:56 the interviewer asks "If 95% of the population can use them and not get hooked, why ban them?" The guy being interviewed essentially answers that because 5% of them can't control themselves, so the other 95% shouldn't get to play them! THAT IS ABSOLUTELY RIDICULOUS!!!
@@halettebrennen8460 That is ridiculous because 24% of the population is under 18 years of age and they can't use them. Because of Government regulations, those under 18 years old can't even buy cigarettes and alcohol. If it wasn't for the 5% of the 7% of the 76% of the adult population that is addicted to pokies, the Clubs and Hotels would close down. Many Clubs closed down after the Hotels got into pokies, too much competition. So approximately 1 in 400 adults supply the majority of the money that subsidises the clubs, hotels, and casinos so their non-addicted patrons can have a cheap meal and channel $Billions of Dollars to their owners and into State Government Revenue. It's far easier to buy a restricted pokie licence from the government and see rivers of cash flow into your bank account.
Just like cigarettes and alcohol is available in every shopping centre, pokie machines should be available too. The local Newsagent and the cafe should have a pokie in store so a customer can try their luck while waiting to get served. If Competition benefits the consumer, let all the shopkeepers have a chance to make an easy dollar. Maybe the novelty of the pokie-machine addition will wear off when they are on every street corner.
how though? they are as boring as 5h1t
Such a brutal addiction. Im sure the guilt and the shame is unimaginable...
There are only two ways to win.
1. Hit it big on your first try and never play again.
2.Never play in the first place.
I put 50 in big red when I turned 18 I won 1100 after 4 $5 hits and have never played since that was 11 years ago I’m the 0.00001% that are up on the pokies
I won 1500 at dallor slots and gave it all back within 2 hours+ $200 i realized then i had a problem and never touched those machines again
The clubs australia boss just liying through his teeth while getting his pockets filled is shameful
It really was pretty disgusting. Stark contrast between the two clubs’ management perspectives.
He is sponsored by the gambling giants they pay his wages of cause he will say pokies any gambling in general is not addictive pokies machines are made too get you addicted too them even with the music they play and the lighting of the machine help do that basically brainwashing the victim's CIA and black ops government organisations all around the world used the process now the pokies machines makers are using the same principles into making people think they can't live without playing pokies every day every of every waking moment I have seen it first hand and been addicted too pokies people become pokie zombies where you will rather put money in the machine instead of paying bills or buying food every cent you have goes in the pokie machine.
I love how he said he believed that addressing problem gamblers wouldn’t affect profits. It’s both a lie and not realistic
If you actually breakdown the numbers, the 5% with addiction problems actually feed 90-95% of the total revenue proceeds. If they were to assist/help the problem gamblers (i.e. compulsive gamblers), then they would lose 90% of their revenue! It is an absolute shame they would rather exploit people than help them!
Going to Casinos gives a high adrenaline,excitement to win,then when losing, you are going back to take a chance to get back the lost money.That that is the beginning of losing everything.
I doubt that you are an addict, because that is not the story of most addicts. Most addicts make excuses to walk in knowing they are unlikely to win. Most addicts spend their winnings straight away if not the next day. I used to walk in just hoping I wouldn't lose too much - but I nearly always lost control once I went into the trance and emptied my bank account. I have to have a very strong mind driving around my own city because here in Australia there are pokies on every corner begging you to walk through their filthy, evil doors.
@@veganandlovingit I was before I lost a lot of money borrowing to my friends to pay my rent.I have a lot of debts from CC but after 2015 I keep a promised not to go back then I stayed away from Casinos.I was an addict too before my mind set was to go back and wins the money that I was losing.I think I learned my lesson after all.Thank you for your fruitful comment🫡💖✌️have a great day
That's the vicious cycle that plays out
Un mundo de luces, sonido, adrenalina, gozo y decepción, el juego un pasatiempo adictivo , gracias por el video.
I love the casino adds that I get on this video, 😅
Most of the therapists I know who work in addictions won’t take a client with a gambling addiction and will refer them to a specialist in a large practice. It’s the addiction with the highest suicide rate, and of course, most people don’t seek help until they’ve lost almost everything. Online gambling has made everything worse.
Yeah you can't even watch a sports game anymore without an advertisement to bet on the game through a sportsbook. Plus it's so easy to deposit you just login to your bank account and click deposit. No matter how hard I try I cannot keep myself away from online gambling. I wish it was never a thing and only land based casino's/sportsbooks existed. It's every month taking any extra money I had plus some bill money if I go too far.
@Yizee I'm pretty addicted to online gambling myself. I ended up going over all the apps and signing the self exclusion papers. Set deposit limits and so on. Has worked pretty well
@@hindukushdestroyer yeah I need to do that myself. It's hard when there's overseas online casino's that don't really let you ban yourself cause htey'll just let you reopen the account if you wanted. So it's tough. Have to have self control.
@@Yizee Thank God here in Italy gambling advertisement is completely banned, because otherwise it would've been way harder for me. And also, but I'm sure this applies to other countries too, you can self-exclude from gambling sites and it takes 6 months after you decide to remove the self-exclusion to be able to gamble again.
For me that meant that when I felt the urge to gamble I had to wait those 6 months, and after 6 months of being unable to play I just didn't feel the urge anymore and I would self-exclude myself again immediately.
Unregulated overseas casinos are almost inaccessible from here, so I never even have tried to play on those.
Now I don't gamble anymore and thanks to my wife and children my life is great again, I feel extremely lucky I eventually was able to come out of that black hole.
@@orfeoassiti6669 Sorry for getting back so late. I self excluded myself for a year from sportsbook gambling sites but now I'm back to casino gambling sites. And these are overseas companies where you can't really ban yourself. It's too hard to ban from everything. It's a monthly struggle for me probably for the rest of my life.
I ran a hotel for 18 months. The hotel had terrific meals for cheap prices, cold beer for low prices, free music jukebox, free pool tables, and great friendly service. If people needed more space or wanted some privacy, I had other large rooms that I would open up to accommodate their needs. And my hotel had ZERO poker machines. I refused to allow them in. And my hotel was relatively a ghost town, while the hotels with poker machines were crowded all day. Lots of people - including potential customers - put a lot of pressure on my to put in a Pub TAB and a room of poker machines, but I stood my ground. And lost a hell of a lot of money as a result. So much for the good guys ...
It's a business. Guests could have drinking problems, but drinks were still served. Guests could have eating disorders, but food was still served. If guests want entertainment in the form of machines, why not give them the choice? It's not about being good or bad it about allowing adults to make their own choices and about making smarter business decisions.
@@TheDatingLab Fair comments. I was just saying that I provided what so many problem gamblers say they want - a hotel without pokies or any other gambling options - and they never patronised my business. They all continued to go down the street to nearby hotels with rooms full of poker machines and Pub TAB. At the end of the day, of course it is their choice. But problem gamblers say one thing and then fall into their usual habits.
Put them back people expect them , I worked at a country pub got very boring when the boss took them away
Yup, compare Sunday church service attendance, or library usage to football matches. Where do people willingly spend their money?
the only cool way to gamble is shooting dice
the differnce between the two cases in regards to the their standing of living is striking
I'm 34 years old and went to a casino for the first time in my life last year. i've seen all the depictions in movies, the glitz, glamour and energy, but when i walked into this particular casino (a fairly big and popular one just outside of Toronto, Canada) it was just full of people (mainly older) who looked sad, desperate and depressed. for a place that is supposed to be "fun", it felt like no one was having any fun at all.
My husband is a pokie addict. If it weren’t for me hiding money, we’d starve and be homeless. On the other side of things, he banks on me doing so. It’s madness.
You need to give him an ultimatum. That's ridiculous.
Ying to his yang.....luckily you balance out. Don't know how long you can keep it up...but I wish you the best.
Hopefully you're divorced already. Good luck!
I had to end my marriage with my wife because of these pokies. I had warned her that if she ever had an addiction to gambling that would be a deal breaker... I would have stood by her through anything else... but not this..
The problem is our Australian Government is totally addicted to Gambling, Tobacco & Alcohol taxes - this is the first red flag!
They run the state and federal governments
ESG investing helps. Vote with your wallets and your personal super and investments outside of super.
Yeah it's a fine line between responsibility and abuse
Merry Christmas Master 🎉🎉
*This segment was filmed in 2009. I wish we could have an update if these poor people beat their pokie addictions*
google her name
@@odyssey814 I did. but nothing
Doubt it
These pokies that they got displayed are just so old. You walk in a club and pub now and they are all the latest poker machines they are in Queensland
@@kelliboyton4074 yeah. they have changed a lot and got a lot louder also lol
Perfect addiction - you win you want to win more...you lose you want to win back what you lost - it Never ends until you destroy everything that's important in life
I'm here after hearing about a coworker picking up extra shifts to feed their addiction; he drives 40 mins every single day after work. 'Indian gaming' casinos are growing and expanding in Northern California and I keep hearing people casually talk about losing a few hundred dollars like its nothing.
I’ve worked in pokie venues for 15 years, the worst part about the whole thing is the reps for the machine manufacturers.
There’s a gaming convention every year in Sydney and they bring the managers of high turnover venues from all across the country and wine and dine them and pay for flights/accomodation.
I won $5000 on a quarter poker machine. That was when the problem really started. Thankfully, the first time I lost our rent money, something kicked me in the head and I immediately went to the gaming commission and had myself banned. I still went at times, but I knew if I won big, because my name was flagged in the system, they wouldn't pay me. I was limited to winning $200, I think. Any more than that and I would have to sign my name and be subject to prosecution for trespassing. That took the joy out real fast. I haven't been near a casino in over 10 years now. Insanely, though, sometimes I really miss it.
Why did you do that. You could have just walked away. How did you win 5000 did you get a royal flush.
@angieangiel2666 a few months back, I sat next to some lady who won 10k on a poker machine. It does happen, for sure.
I feel your pain. That's why I did similar to what Marie in this blog did. I took my son when he was 21 to Vegas and gave him $100. He lost $100 of it and I told him I would give him ANOTHER $200 and he could keep the additional $200 or gamble some or all of it. He decided to keep it. And my eyes lit up and I told him I was proud that he made the right decision and explained to him that I took him to Vegas for the very reason of teaching him that gambling is bad. It's been years now and he has never gambled since.
@@cdsersd2d 🧢
“Thankfully the first time I lost our rent money” lmaoooooo 😂 nothing to be thankful about that! If I was dating someone who can afford to waste money on casino, it’s over. It’s one thing to ruin your life but to drag others into your hole, that’s a whole lot of different level. 😂
"honestly I can't understand it", shouldn't really be your job as a reporter to judge these people
How is that judging? I dont understand it either. What part of that is judging?
She’s not judging them. This is an addiction just like drugs just like alcohol.
My brother was a casino manager. What people don’t realize are the slot machines aren’t random. They are programmed to take a certain amount. State law requires the casino take a certain percent. So payouts and jackpots are paid out when the casino is over the percent that they have taken in.
wrong.
@@briansefring4981 my brother was literally the manager of Harrahs. That players card you enter is so they can keep track of the money you’ve lost. Once you’ve lost enough, they’ll come over and pretend like they don’t know what’s going on and then comp you a bunch of stuff so you can lose more. They literally have smart phones with everyone’s data. And like I said, the slot machines aren’t random.
You think every time you pull, it’s random? No it’s programmed. Just like a scratch off ticket. You don’t even need to scratch it off. You can just check if you won or not. Those people playing slots or scratch off who were just one away from a big jackpot, put in more money. You’ll win next time.
Ur dumb.
That's bullcrap, they are programed to pay a 87% usually over a long period of time but the payouts are random, r.n.g operated,!
I'm from the US in Oklahoma where we've had casinos on native lands for decades. This is a SERIOUS problem in parts of our community. You can walk into these casinos and see people seemingly glued to the same chair for hours, punching buttons mindlessly, absolutely hooked. From where I sit right now, there are 10 different casinos within 10 miles.
Oklahoma is looting money from Texans with these casinos
Here in Oregon it's state sanctioned so bars restaurant s and game rooms are everywhere. I live on the coast and also have two casinos in a town of 20,000 people
Here in the Australian state of NSW, we have about 10% of all the poker machines in the world.
We don’t have to travel 100 miles to an Indian casino, we can access them a few hundred yards away at the nearest bar.
These machines are all over the world .They have one aim to make a few fat men rich at the expense of hard working innocent people.
One day in the future they will be banned when decent people rise up & take power.
Vampires.
Years back I solved my addiction to a certain slot machine by buying one to play at home. Got bored by it quickly and it solved the problem.
Interesting, stay strong !
Not a bad idea for people
I own an old Mills "Black Beauty" slot - all mechanical.......that thing does pay out every now and again...but not all the time. And yeah...I'm bored by gambling frankly.....If I don't start hitting within 10 minutes....I quit.
Now you can go broke waiting for XRP while the bull run continues.........
I got a slot machine ad before this video. Lmao
Shes talking about addiction..
Her first words..
Honestly I cant understand it.
GREAT REPORTING AND GOOD RESEARCH INTO THE PROBLEM.
I’ve been addicted to all the common stuff, cig’s, alcohol, buying shit, every kind of drug, etc but NEVER have I enjoyed gambling. I’m so grateful I never felt that rush with gambling.
I hope you managed to overcome the others. 👍
Unfortunately I had really good luck the first time I gambled . I had 40 dollars and I tried roulette. I kept winning and said to myself . Okay I'm at 220 if I go down to 200 I'll stop then when i got to more money id say the same okay im at 480 ill play until 450. The problem is I kept winning until i made 1400 dollars . I was so lucky. That's what got me hooked
@@Gabewindsor the worst thing that can happen to a gambler is winning the first time they play. Hooks you line and sinker. People need to understand that just cause you have a lucky streak and win one night, doesn't mean you can do it all the time
@@Gabewindsorthat's the way it is you are winning but you want to win more.
I'm glad I never felt the rush of all your addictions sounds horrific
I love watching Vegas Matt on RUclips!! It's a good alternative to going to the casino.
Cheaper and more exciting too! 😂👍
Just watch next they'll be banning gambling videos on social media this crap has to stop 🛑 and I don't mean the pokies I mean governments telling people what they can and can't do who's that saxophone think he is
@@rollwiththepunches5932for real lol I’m glad when I go I usually break even or a tiny bit of profit couldn’t imagine losing 40k in a session 😂
Love Vegas Matt and all his Sandos and Sh*tsandwiches! 😂😂😂
SteveWillLoseIt
"pokies" is such a austrailian way to put it lol
I've had friends lose so much money, it's terrible to watch someone you know playing these and you know there not going to stop till they've spent all there money they have at the time
What people don’t realize is those machines are Scientifically designed to stimulate your Dopamine receptors, they use all sensory inputs, to include sight, sound, touch, and in Oklahoma, they serve free soda, as well as allow smoking. According to my research, the worst thing that can happen to you is to win a fairly large amount, and the more times you win even small amounts, in affects your reward receptors, which will start to make you crave for more stimulation to get the same feeling. It’s like any addiction, but I feel gambling may be worse, as it affects all your sensory inputs. I thank God every day, that I’ve never won enough to keep me at the machines. The Risk Reward is Not there for me! ****It’s sad that 60 Minutes did not bring a Mental Health Expert in to explain this!!! 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
@patrino but cheaper - I prefer my new you tube addiction lol
Well put. I agree
100% it's the win that kills you not the loss
You are so right about that. It is really sad.
You are absolute correct they purposely are made to manipulate the brain I've watched a documentary where designers ask the companies what percentage they want them to pay its nearly always the very lowest - they have many games now with the perception jackpot sizes and other gimics don't effect how they pay and play and that's so misleading with a very tiny one line which is a play on words written somewhere on them. I fail to understand how it's allowed many other products that mislead you and prey on your powers of perception are deemed illegal when challenged these things have free reign it's disgusting.
My heart goes out to these people. I'm a 22 years sober recovering alcoholic, and I think I'm a lucky one. Process addictions are so much harder in so many ways, especially gambling and sex. I hope these folks can stay sober and get their lives back.
when I gambled on those machines it wasn't for money, it was for adrenaline of win and desperation of lost...
I never felt such deep feeling ever before nor after.
I have family that I grew up with that had gambling addictions and its a major problem. So many people don't walk into a casino understanding that you need to spend what you're able to afford to lose. When I gamble on the slots I only spend $100 dollars and I bet $1.50-2.50 on the penny slots and if I dip below $60 I cash out and leave. The biggest issue with gambling addiction is always thinking you will make the money back that you lost
As an American it's crazy to see almost every pub has slot machines, not a surprise there are so many problem gamblers. I have a casino just a 20 drive minutes away, but knowing I'll likely lose is enough to keep me from going. But if there were big jackpot machines at the bar down the street, I'd be tempted.
What state do you live in. We have zero slots in bars in Nj
There are little slot parlors in every strip mall every bar and restaurant and the gas stations here. Mix in the title loan and payday loan places and you can see why the mob had to go. Just like the lottery the tax is imposed on the poor and those poor at math.
I've seen them everywhere in LV and MT it can be difficult where I live. But I'm happy to control my gambling, try not to at every bar, and never let myself spend more than $40 so I don't get into any addiction. It can happen to anyone and I'm glad this video spreads awareness. Also from the USA❤
Yea some dude that owned a store around my way had a couple machines in the backroom. Me and my dad would play all the time and I was kind of hooked on it but never played much money. My dad gets hooked on stuff very quickly, he passed it on to me lol. He got caught though and they took the machines away. If they had them in every store I’d definitely be tempted if I had time to kill. They’re fun to play but you have to know when to stop! I saw 2 friends get hooked in gambling in front of my eyes. They would go and bring a certain amount, but as soon as that was gone they would ask to borrow money or use the expensive atm in casinos! The withdrawal fee is like 15 bucks!! I would see them gambling and they weren’t having fun anymore. They were riding that rush you get when you win or lose, and they didn’t even know it. I knew it was bad when they dropped me off, took a shower and went right back! It was a 2 hr ride! I know they told themselves, let’s just go us 2 so nobody can stop us from playing more. One of them won 5 grand one night and the next day it was gone! I don’t speak to them any more but I bet they’re still gambling. The crazy part is, they SUCK at gambling lol. One of them got into poker the same time I did and he had no idea what he was doing. He would go play every weekend though, getting cleaned out by any decent poker player. Poker is one game that you can win with skills! That’s why the same people show up in the final of WSOP.
@@newsystem420Same but I play live poker in Montana. I always budget before I play and leave when I lose a certain amount
Covid and gaming rooms closing over that period was the best thing to happen to people addicted to the pokies, although I guess they just transferred that addiction to online gambling.
are you kidding me? I know SOOOOOOO many people in recovery who started out of boredom because in Canada EVERYTHING was locked down so people would just pump money into online gambling. It's what set the addiction in motion for me too... Still struggling to this day to snap out of it.
@@fuzzmosisr8601nope not kidding, are you? very different statistics here in Australia.
Pokies?? Australians talk like babies!!!
And that's why Evolution Gaming is doing so well.
Lucky we don't have those in our pubs around Perth
Its one of the biggest things I noticed moving out here from the UK. Pokies machines and 'vip' sections everywhere. No surprise there's such a widespread problem
Never stop gambling. You're so close to the jackpot.
Made me laugh out loud
I went to vegas for the first time last year and it was my second time gambling. I can totally see how people get hooked on these machines and games. I kept getting this feeling that the next time I hit the button would be the hit where I would actually win. I "won" $50 after 4 days of light gambling, in reality losing all the money I set aside for gambling during the trip and came home feeling absolutely used. I won't go back to a casino again because I already have an addictive personality (13 years sober) and I would rather spend money on things worthwhile instead of a conglomerate that doesn't give a crap about its customers. My heart goes out to gambling addicts, it's legitimate.
My sister was a problem gambler advisor. It was amazing the number of broken families due to this addiction! I don't understand why the government gives licence to this 'entertainment' that splits families apart and causes a lot of addiction and homeless in countries that could otherwise flourish. It's a sad state of affairs
The government gives it licenses because it brings in revenue.... Surprised you didn't think of or consider the revenue for gambling businesses and government
@@aquariusthompson8212 I know they do! This is really just a “bribe” so they can continue to make a huge profit from those too weak to help themselves.
Similar to why the government doesn’t ban painkillers even though some become addicted and lose everything. The vast majority of people who have gambled or gamble today aren’t addicts who lose everything. I’m 31 and go to Vegas often. I’ve lost about 50k total and that’s over a 10 year period. Is it bad that I lost that much? Sure. Did it destroy my life? Not really since it’s usually a fun time. If I didn’t gamble, I’d probably be spending that amount of money elsewhere. When u go gamble, set a limit and have the will power to stick to it. Easier said than done but definitely possible
@@SAsh-zg6ln Similar to the government not banning alcohol...the most destructive drug out there.
@@lynette599 ya that’s an easier example. Kinda crazy how both political sides hate the government yet then want to include the government in everything
My first time outside Western Australia as an adult , it astounded me how little room there was in pubs for anything but the stupid bloody pokies . no pool tables. no darts boards . front bars that couldn't hold more than 20 or 30 people. but hundreds and hundreds of pokies . I'm so glad I live in the only Aussie state NOT to have them in pubs and clubs. What a sad thing 😔
The story about Katherine is heart-breaking. Truly heart-breaking. If you know the feeling, then you know. The kind of stories similar to Katherine’s are an absolute injustice to human life.
I lived 3.4 hours from big Casinos and I became addicted going my first time with an ex-girlfriend. I won a $4k jackpot and I was hooked. I spent a lot of my free time driving back and forth because of the hope of winning big again. I lost a lot and moved back to my home town further away to start over. Well unbeknown to me there was a casino across the border 1.5 hours away and I fell off again. But years later I got tired of loosing and no longer had the desire to go. Just don't step foot in casinos because you never know.
I think that’s the same problem with me. I’ve hit a couple of jackpots with one being $6000. It’s that pull that you can do it again. But in truth I’ve lost way more than I’ve won.
I've lost 5k this and last year, glad I'm a broke student cause If I was rich I'd be down horrendous
I have the same problem, i live so close to casinos but i try to keep my steem high so i dont step in there
@marrane87 Yep, don't go. Put money in your savings every time you get the urge. In 10 years, you can have 20-30k!!
Any kind of addiction never gives us happiness but mental sickness 😮😮😮
I'm even beginning to think that buying lottery tickets, sports betting is the newest form of addiction. My coworkers go ham every Tuesday just scratching and losing! will be doing it all again come Friday. Imagine putting the money aside they could be debt free or a quarter of a million dollars richer by the end of the full year its crazy . Granted you do win sometimes but you're still losing more than you'll win
Yes, stunningly tragic what happens to some of these people that got addicted to gambling
But can't try and legislate this to stop people who lack will power to stop
That's soo true...myself...When I'm sitting in the blackjack table...I'm in a Zone!..as if..I'm in another world.." no stressed...no problem...thank goodness my kids are all adult now but I finally comes to my senses and completely stop!
Had a buddy back in college that was addicted to gambling. He lost a total of $1.7M to casinos.. his family sent him to rehab, after his treatment he became a successful real estate developer.. He totally lost his desire for gambling.
I've been addicted to pokies. Spent most of my twenties slapping my pay check. I blew a 20k inheritance. That could have helped me buy a house and set me up for life. Instead now I struggle through my 30s. At least I beat my addiction and never play them anymore.
I loathe the pokies and I loathe that ceo of clubs Australia.
Well done for beating your addiction. I'm always curious how otherwise sensible people get addicted to them though when you're mathematically guaranteed to lose over the long term.
What will turn the addiction off is the acceptance of the realisation that the pokies are not machines where you can win money, until then its all a delusion. I spent years around pokies but my brain came to the natural conclusion of no profit gaming and sitting there by myself tapping a button, seems a little crazy. I never play or want to play the pokies, you are just lining the pokets of the elite few who own and run this scam.
anyone know what the piano song is called at 3:20 ? Its also used in The Assasination of Jesse James but Ive never been able to find the piece by name.
Look up "Song For Jesse" on youtube, it's track #03 on the soundtrack. I love that movie... just about crapped my pants when I heard it in this video lol...
John Duncan is a Ray Liotta double.
There was an English politician, cook, raconteur and all-round interesting guy called Clement Freud (grandson of Sigmund and brother of Lucian), who was a gambling addict. I saw him in a documentary he did about his gambling back in the 80s. He claimed that gambling addicts don't want to win; they want to lose. He said that when you've lost far more than you can afford to lose, you initially feel gutted, but underlying that feeling is another one. 'I'm alive, it didn't kill me. I can carry on.' I don't know if that's true for other gambling addicts. I'm just remembering the story.
The buzz you get walking out of the casino penniless is intense.
“Gutted”, stupid, shameful… and thoroughly off the life track you used to be on.
My friend spent £15,000 on slots over the last two weeks, went through all his savings and now he's at rock bottom and he still won't stop. I've stopped commenting on it to him as he turns it on me. As his friend it tortures you to see someone voluntarily throwing their life away.
It is addictive especially when you winning. But you need to know when to stop
Addiction , he is chasing losses now
Mate was that online he lost 15k or on bookies FOBTS ?
Lol I play with a cap of £150. The rest is profit money. Once I lose that it's done.
@@hakansukur1627 on his laptop playing online slots.
"Profits wnt suffer"?...
Hahahahaha😂
I literally have a sports bet ad run before this video
I am a recovering alcoholic with over 2 1/2 years of sobriety now. I never understood gambling and was never tempted to try. But I will not point fingers at those with a gambling addiction. We are all addicts to different drugs and stimulation's. I am no better than the next guy, and might even be worse.
Well said 👌
@@kiss4youxxx166 Thank you.
The only place one can gamble pokies in WA is in Casino. No pub or clubs allowed to have legal machine. Hopefully it helps the WA residents in problem gambling.
What about other states
Thanks RUclips for the Sportsbet Ad before this segment.
I can relate to this! I was a long haul truck driver and I would plan my breaks around the available casinos. I lost thousands of dollars over a ten year period! I finally did a trial. If I felt the urge to stop and play I would instead take that amount of money I was going to gamble with and put it aside. When I got home I would buy some sort of tool. Now I have any tool I will ever need in my retirement. Very hard habit to break. I was always trying to just get back even.
You have to handcuff yourself to the house , this was the only way for me to stop my addiction after losing millions
how dis you get millions while being so dumb?
Like all compulsive disorders, these problem gamblers are not attracted to the game but the fear that if they don't play they will miss their opportunity to win the big jackpot.
How about that CEO and his straight face lol😂
The real crux of the issue with gambling addiction is that just like with alcoholics there will never be enough alcohol, with gamblers, no matter how much they win, it will never be enough. You just chase the next bigger win. Spent enough money at the casino years ago. No thanks. Saddest thing was looking around at all the older people just blowing through their retirement. Made me sick to my stomach.
Although this is an old episode the problem gamblers are still gambling on the poker machines. For years I was the same, and spend hours of the day gambling. I tried different actions to trick my mind in to avoiding the machines. After attempting suicide my Doctors changed my antidepressants. My Son bought an online poker machine game. Then one day the obsession for these machines just stopped. As I walked in to the gaming room to play the pokies. The room was full of people the same as I was and I left. My addiction to the monsters was over. The people interviewed need help as the constant desire to play them is a living hell.
I am so happy for you that you were able to innocence get sick of it. I’ve struggled with a different type of addiction and I’ve acted out a little in the last few years but overall I’m done with it and I know it’s more of a choice now because it doesn’t really feed the same parts of my brain. Thanks to a great therapist, myself trying, running marathons, God, teaching middle school history and my best friends I was able to finally get to this point.
An old episode, yes. Did you notice the _old_ $10 notes going in...
@@clayscloset2618 , something in your mind says ; I hate to be controlled by this. I have not spoken of this before. I wish the very best for you . God bless you .
I think a lot of people have had a stint with playing the pokies, putting those wins back in and thereby seeing it all for what it is. It's a mugs game. Years ago I had a little taste of the addiction because just like they said in this story, you get drawn in with big wins at first, then slowly start losing it as you chase "the big win". Over a couple of months I won about $4000 and then put it back in, so luckily that experience turned me off playing the pokies. So now rather than thinking about all the money I could be winning, it feels much better thinking about all the money I've saved from *not* playing. I do feel bad for these people who are terribly addicted to pokies, but at the end of the day it's supposed to be a free country and no one's forcing them to play. Like all destructive addictions, they have to admit they have a problem and make a decision to seek help.
Well said!
@@fuzzmosisr8601 Thanks.👍
By that logic, some people enjoy crack and no one is forcing you to smoke it. They have to admit they have a problem and make a decision to seek help
So then why not legalise crack?
@@GoRobotGoexactly
Casino loves these kinds of people. These machines are programs to take a lot from them and then give some back to intice them back to the game.
i love that calling them pokies makes them seem harmless.....gooning out with the pokies.....
Back 10 years ago I had a gambling addiction to these machines. I must of spent 30-40k. I finally got a grip and haven't played since. I do get the urge from time to time but I moved to a city that doesn't have them and I no longer go to casinos. It's an addiction.
What was the biggest change or thought or action that helped you to stop?
@@KimJilene I moved away from Portland Oregon to a state that doesn't have poker machines or casino's. I don't go to Vegas anymore and online gambling doesn't do it for me. Stay away from the atmosphere.
I know it doesn't mean much, but I am so proud of you.
Ur a shit gambler than no control of money management 🤣🤣 tell me why I’m up on sports book
@@Teddy31976there's always online casinos
There are actual methods to fighting this addiction. Self-banning is the best place to start. Then continuation of support groups are highly encouraged. It’ll never go away. It’s always waiting for you to come back. It’s cunning, baffling and powerful
Interesting that I get a Draft Kings ad while watching this….
I worked in the gambling industry for 12 years and I can tell you with certainty that it is an evil industry and should be stopped. I saw a lot of good people ruined chasing the adrenaline rush of the win that happens far less than people realize.
I agree , it is evil and needs to brought down.
It's not evil its made for entertainment in moderation. Like saying alcohol is evil because some people are alcoholics. Most people can go to the casino once and awhile and play these machines and they don't get addicted to them.
Good people don't gamble their money away 😂
@@TheRealGod_777 Good people aren't smug clowns who judge others. Tend to your log fool.
Agreed. The gambling industry is evil. Always has been. Always will be.
My uncle used to empty cash gambling machines, i remember him telling me, that it would be more beneficial to set the money alight, at least you would feel the warmth.
i gave up the machines after studying the odds and payment frequencies and music used a song too "walk on bye"
How ironic that to watch a video about this, I had to watch an ad for an online pokies company 😂
Hats off to those interviewed ! Takes allot to admit and tell others in warning of the slippery slope ahead if gambling begins to become predominant in ones life. Cheers from Northern California ! Same story half way around the world ! Overall , responsible Governments are in place to protect society as a whole not just profit margins for the rich to get richer! Regulations are crucial for a prosperous healthy society . These casinos should be thankful that they are even aloud to operate in the first place .
She stole money broke up her marriage hooked another Mug and still ended up on top, unbelievable.
Right. Because addiction is a disease and is defined by the behaviors the addict exhibits surrounding the addiction. Once she fought the addiction, she got her life back. Why are you shitting on her? Isn’t this what we want to see? People getting their lives back on track and in order, even if only for the young children that depend on them?! What’s wrong with you?
I’m assuming you think she’s on top because her child is on top of a horse? Looks like her second husband is 20 years older. Don’t worry she pays for it in other ways, just like any other one else in similar situations. You’re welcome to do the same 😂
@@silentblackhole Dont be stupid.
She obviously had a wealthy husband. To blow $1m, not all of it her money, and still walk away with a beautiful rural property of her own. They were loaded.
She's pretty, and the geezer seems happy. What do you care?
He cant even stop during the interview
Informative video and Puck Futin.
The scary thing is that there are now online casinos that advertise here on RUclips. I wonder how gambling addicts and vulnerable people react to it. It is terrifying to contemplate.
The ad that played before this video for me was Ladbrokes. How's the irony?
Myself and 2 mates attended the opening of the Burswood casino. We all played with $20 only. I played the 20c pontoon machine and won $60 from a single coin by rolling it over. Cashed out and went home. Never been back since 😂🤣😂🤣
Smart man
Alcohol and gambling are a deadly combination 😢😢i have worked in bars and have witnessed many a heartbreaking 💔 situation.😮
Thank god, gambling addiction is something that I do not have
I’ve seen this problem first hand and I blame it for the death of someone I loved very much as she couldn’t accept what she had done, she died of other causes but I blame the stress of the gambling..And from being one of the nicest people I ever met gambling made her a completely different person..Pokies are worse than drugs because with drugs you can take so much before you OD where as there’s no limit with gambling.
I wish 60 minutes here in America was true journalism like this
They just did a report on horse racing, doping and gambling this month.
Hard hitting journalism. Gambling is bad. What a fresh revelation😂
Luck is something you can create yourself through hardwork.
Never gamble with money you can't afford to lose.
I feel so bad for these people. I go to the casino maybe once a month or every other month and get a room there. To me it’s a nice little vacation from home for a night. Food, drinks, leisure gambling on the slots. I have never been addicted to them but have been going for years as a form of entertainment. I can’t imagine what these people are going through.
So you've been going for years but not addicted?? DENIAL😂😂😂
@@davidvincent9545 do you know what addiction is?
People go and spend all their money in one night as soon as their wage comes in. Some go every day to spend 100$.
Just going once a month doesn't mean you are not addicted.
As long as I only spend a tiny amount of my money it's okay for me.
I'm in Panama, we got these small dime a dozen Casinos around the towns and cities. Every now and then, I'll put a dollar or two in the slots for shits and giggles. Some people just don't know when to stop, like any other addiction.
Exactly. Just like any other addiction.
BetMGM commercial mid documentary 😂
This is going on in the small city i live in Ireland, casinos are open 24 hours, people have committed suicide but it's not even investigated, corruption is rampant here in Ireland so may God help bigger countries with bigger casinos.
The government will never ban poker machines or tobacco, they get too much revenue from them.
They care more about their next pay rise than your future.
So true.