conservative media literacy
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- Опубликовано: 12 янв 2025
- Voiceover meme. me when that conservative is literate... not! media literacy is like hell fire... dark fire... now media its your turn... explanation taken from a comment i wrote: frollo in hunchback of notre dame likes esmeralda and because of esmeraldas race this turns into a wierd religious narrative in frollos head. this happened, with a high potential, because of religious dogmatism frollo was taught.
conservatives are usually a result of not being taught civics and/or literary analysis in school, exchanged with religious preaching instead. resulting in them being very poor at humanities and media literacy
because they agree with frollos inner narrative they just think "liking brown women is cringe" and then, without busying their mind with analysis too much, continue doing the mundane task their religion taught them to i.e., beating their wife(representation of more general domestic abuse), which is true and rash enough to serve as an, albeit, dark punchline
Conservapedia when any form of media exists:
didnt mention abortion hard enough
Waiting for the conservapedia article on Torgan smh.
‘Torgan454 a woke evil liberal youtube channel made to discredit the amazing conservative race.’
This is literally that one time conservatives realized they were being made fun of in The Boys
They always support the bad guys
@@LordVader1094 seismic cope.
@@LordVader1094 I'd say it's less about them trying to make it something they enjoy, and more like conservative "thinking" has degenerated past the point of parody that satirization is just fact; so they just outright enjoy it without a second thought. The joys of having political opponents with the intellectual capacity and social skills of middle school children, right? 😅
We Know. we don't care. You can enjoy media that doesn't necessarily align with you views. It goes both ways.
Uh oh we got a reddit university graduate here chuds. I’d be really scared right now…
Let's not forget that Frolo tried killing "the hunchback" when they were a child.
he also killed his mother
something something post birth abortion something something
But he was already born and his death wouldn't personally affect Frollo, they completely stop caring about kids at that point lol
Literacy? No thanks! I hate reading!
How can you hate something you don’t know how to do?
@PossumSatyr reading killed my grandfather.
That just reminded me of that one time a rather "simple-minded" former classmate of mine, back in college, told me about how she hated reading and how it was silly and unnecessary in our modern age, after I asked whether she read the next chapter of the book we were discussing in German class. We were in econ class and the very second she was done explaining that to me, the teacher happened to pick her to read a small paragraph.
She struggled harder than your weird uncle at thanksgiving dinner trying to not say anything politically insensitive.
Meanwhile, I was struggling to contain my laughter at that beautiful, coincidentally perfectly-timed display of "reaping what you sow."
She's a sweetheart, all things considered... and a quick learner whenever she dOES show interest in something.
She went on an exchange year to the US once and came back with an unprecedented and impressive level of fluency in English. Unfortunately, she went to California, so she just ended up sounding exactly like a Valley girl.
Bless her soul, man... 💀💀💀
@@shinjiikari5174How does she even learn anything without reading? Does she just use audiobooks? Is it a deal of "can understand words but can't speak them"?
@PossumSatyr I think that's the bit chief
btw i drew that.
finally full on torganite og
thank you torgan
I feel like there's also a level of association some people have with Frollo because they can see part of themselves in him and his actions (a truly horrifying thought) without realizing he is supposed to embody all the worst aspects of religious ideology, he's a great villain because he's the type of person that can very easily exist in real life
You're either a Frollo or a Quasimodo
@@xibalbalon8668 forgetting the esmereldas
listen, I disagree with Frollo in almost every way, but am absolutely unable to resist brown women.
And who has very much existed in real life at that
“emperor belos was right he brought god to them witches” energy
Stuff like this has made me abandon the concept of subtlety.
good
What because some people online misinterpret a childrens film? What are you writing? Capeshit?
Media literacy? Maybe we should install more garbage cans!
they have to be on the ocean though. it's "literacy", not "literaland"
@@iykury Ohhhh so that's why the ocean is full of trash
I remember bout a year ago people tried to claim Godzilla Minus One as some kind pro-men anti-woke thing
The movie is an anti war film about the effects of war on those who survive it
And the strongest character in the movie is a woman
I hated seeing every other video being some awful photoshop red circle fire thumbnail of godzilla stepping on disney castle and the titles being "Minus one DESTROYS Disney/woke hollywood"
First of all shut up every godzilla has some sort of wake up people message
And second jeez it only made like 100 million dollars it aint exactly making people shake in their boots
I love the movie but most actual godzilla fans distance themselves from those types of people who want to interject dumb opinions into the fandom
I didn't watch the movie, but I'm pretty sure the strongest character is a giant lizard
It's antiwar in a sense (it speaks against the Imperial Japanese military culture of perfect "honor" and disposability), but it's more complex than that. I think it's certainly anti-imperialist and anti-fascist, but it still glorifies the right sort of fighting.
It's about people who lost a war in the most horrific way and who were truly a defeated people. Japan up until 1945 made its prowess in war and its militaristic and imperialist culture the most important facet of its society, yet the USA completely trashed them and forced an unconditional surrender out of them. The main character also lost a personal "war" in being too scared to ram his kamikaze plane into the American ships or to fire his guns on Godzilla when he first faced it. Someone like him, a Japanese military officer, would often commit suicide when faced with such shame, and although he chooses not to die, he does not exactly believe that he deserves to live either. Japan as a nation might have felt this in a certain way too. Japan had never before seen this humiliation in all of its history. Its emperor was a god, yet their god had allowed them to be invaded by the USA. They all would have had their whole faith and identity shattered and had to rebuild it.
What does it mean to redefine your whole identity in this way, and how do you find your peace and pride again? It is no small thing to go through such a change. Russia experienced a great unraveling of society of its own in 1991, and they have gone down a dark and barbaric path since then.
I think the meaning of the movie, distilled into as short of a phrase as possible, is: "Your life is always worth fighting for." So it's about men who lost a war rallying together to fight again, and it's about Japan finding its old strength and pride, even if the Japanese have to adapt their beliefs for the new reality around them. This is best-symbolized in the experimental fighter plane, which is the pride of Imperial Japanese engineering (maybe comparable to something like the ME-262 in Luftwaffe lore), but it is fitted with an ejector seat before the final battle, representing a change in cultural values for the better: not rejecting the old ways or turning your back on pride and courage, but also adapting for the better.
So I think the monster in this movie, among many things, represents shame.
The movie is VERY pro-men, but it's not pro-men in an "anti-woke" way. It's pro-men in the sense that it honors and glorifies real courage among men while also speaking against the disposable way in which the men in the Imperial Japanese military were treated. It does not devalue courage, but it shows that disgraced people can redeem themselves and still have a life worth living.
I wrote enough, but I also think the movie is also a refutation of Mishima's style of post-war Japanese nationalism. Worth noting is that Mishima volunteered to pilot a kamikaze plane during the war but was rejected for medical reasons, and his shame regarding this may be part of what sent him down the path of extreme nationalism and ultimately his ritual suicide. Mishima wanted to die a heroic death and wrote in great detail regarding this, but Godzilla Minus One instead glorifies fighting to live.
I didn't hear of anyone doing this.
@billdecompsa4705 search up "TheQuartering"
[from description] "media literacy is like hell fire... dark fire..."
"dark enlightenment" but its just like . a bunch of people getting media literacy
Conservatives watching the full Harry Potter series (Voldemort killing Harry's parents but Harry surviving is actually a reference to the conservative anti abortion agenda)
Jk Rowling will make a trilogy to make it canon
So you really want to claim JK Rowling?
@@thewholecircus she'll also make all the villains trans
Glad I’m so much of a degenerate that I caught the video this early. Also quite funny
WOKE LEANING MEMES? I didn’t know you’d stoop so low Torgan
sorry ill try to sleep more 🙏🙏
Torgan came out as a woke imperialist 😢
I can't believe it... DEI Torgan 😔😔😔
I can't believe it. Soon he might even add... women to his videos!!1! The west has fallen..
@@poot6760The (Kanye) west has fallen (off)
Don't you mean, real sigma red pilled patrick bateman, joker 69 420 Media Literacy??? 😤
Oh no, the brain-rot as turned you into a Pibby static zombie too .
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I have no idea what that means.
The only thing I could think close to that sentence is a villainess who likes to be beaten up by the heroine, kinda like Batman and the Joker if they were women.
*Edit*(after rewatching the last scene): Oh. Oh that's nasty.
Thank Allah that gay marriage is banned in most of the world.
You will never pass
conservatives when they need to wake up:😠😠
Normally I would insert a comment saying that while this video is true to some extent, the current situation of the "media literacy" landscape post 2016 is more nuanced than that due to the present climate of political polarization we live in.
But frankly, I'm currently just so angry and disappointed at conservatives and GamerGaters being fond of and celebrating AI generated art and media that I don't even have the energy to defend them or play Devil's Advocate in any kind of manner, so I'll just say: *Hahahahaha, nice. Make more, pls.*
Wow i cant believe they would celebrate putting out of business people who hate them
@@maydaymemer4660 I can understand that part, but their support for AI goes beyond just that.
I'm a leftist but I really don't like how the term "media literacy" has become weaponized in this kind of discourse. It's one thing to not understand what the authorial intent was (Although how knowable that actually is can vary greatly) but there is never a truly "correct" way to interpret media and how much the authorial intent does matter is also completely up for interpretation. Basically, these conversations should never amount to "right vs wrong" because it's entirely subjective
The issue is not as to how attuned conservatives are to recognizing authorial intent (although, sometimes this argument is made) and more with the complete lack of critical engagement exhibited by conservatives in any kind of discourse on art.
It's not really about them not following 1:1 the intentions and vision of the author, which really no one possibly can since everyone is their own person and all, but rather the fact that they ignore any kind of nuance whatsoever and fail to ever figure out that stories carry a certain message below what you just see with your eyes and hear with your ears.
For instance, the X-Men were never intended to just be a superhero team, they were a commentary on the Civil Rights Movement and the situation of black people at the time, hell- Charles Xavier and Magneto were specifically modeled after Martin Luther King Jr and Malcolm X for fuck's sake. And yet, these folks will complain about "modern media" being "too woke and shoving politics down my throat" before turning back to praise the very clearly non-political story about people facing prejudice for being born a certain way from 40 years ago.
@curple3 the difference is is that the x-men didn’t talk down to you like the people who get called “woke” usually do. It’s the holier than thou and reactionary attitude that pisses most people i know off, not the fact that they’re of a different race.
i will follow torganism to my last breath
then, as i said earlier, put a pony on your avatar, because global ponification is one of the main purposes of this chanel (wine)
Woke mind virus strikes again 😢
I agree with this but in a woke way.
tumblr ahh
conservapedia when liberal
Actually, the message is that being horny is bad.
being horny *is* bad but thats not the message
You are the stickman in this video.
@@Torgan454 Being horny is fine, but being so horny that you have to hurt people is bad. Religion makes you bottle your nuts/ovaries up.
@@LordDanielGcan confirm, laying the smack down on the misses atm
Based
Progressive meme literacy
this is so true
whats a media🤔
me when literar
Media is the plural of medium
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I know this is a joke but does anyone actually say this about Frollo?
i can imagine a few forums where thats possible yeah
like this comment section
@Torgan454 “it’s not true, but my lying says more about my enemies than me”
Nghyarharharhar my wife left me!
what is this actually supposed to mean
Conservative 🚨 ‼️
the priest character in the first panel is from the hunchback of notre dame. This is a reference to the song "hellfire" from there. The movie might have more context for the character than the song but idk never seen it.
right-wingers don't understand shit
@@jimmyjohnjoejr mad
@@jimmyjohnjoejr leftists make me question myself sometimes
wheres the joke?
behind you
@@neostrophe5003 *team forteess 2 title card appears followes by tf2 theme*
@@neostrophe5003 😱
Right behind you.
That when you watch childrens movies or capeshit you have to root for the guy with the white hat because he’s the villain
Progressive media literacy be like: The character made to be a pharisee is a critic to religious dogmatism rather than human pride and vaity
it can be both. mine's more correct though 😏
@@Torgan454 If you actually watch the movie you'll see this doesn't make any sense because religious dogmatism is what makes Frollo weaker and vulnerable rather than evil. Just go see the first 5 minutes of the movie, why did Frollo spare Quasimodo's life?
@@jec3830 'cause why not
Vanity is not the same is pride also you misspelt it. I would also say that Frollo is a critique of racism and violent lust being rationalized through means of religion more than either your or Torgan’s interpretations.
Not to say both of your interpretations aren’t at least partially correct as well. It’s just there is a hierarchy of messages within the character of Frodo.
"Waah people aren't interpreting a work of fiction the way I (not part of the production of said fiction in any way) want them to!!1!1"
"Waaaah I just got made fun of for being media illiterate and it really hurt my feelings!!!!1!1!"
@ragglerock2682 you're onto nothing. I'm not conservative, I just think it's silly to think your interpretation of a work of fiction is the only correct one, especially if you had no part in it's creation
@@Rikken552Brother, this is about Frollo... not some deeply nuanced character that can have a lot of interpretations. If you can look at Frollo and hear "Hellfire" and think he's not a commentary on how religion can be used as justification for atrocities, idk what to tell you
@Kaydok001 I personally interpret his use of religion as a shield to protect himself from criticism from both others and himself, rather than a weapon to harm others with. I'll respect your interpretation if you respect mine
@@Rikken552 We both interpreted Frollo very similarly (and so did the poster) so I don't really know how to respond to that specifically. There are interpretations of media that just deadass make no sense within the context of the film, book, ect which is all this post was trying to say. Interpreting Frollo as a good guy means you (general you, not you specifically) are as morally corrupt as him, or have no media literacy
" media literacy 🤓" yall really turning unemployment into a refined art or some shit
You can be literate and still have a job you know
Bro thinks being smart and unemployed are the same thing (the U.S education system brainwashed him to be a wage slave).
@@elishafollet5347 yeah being able to read and saying you "understand media better than others" because youre a proffessional consumer are separate things, but go on, make a stupid relation between the two and ignore the fact that saying "media literacy" is extremely unemployed behaviour
I'm going to touch you
@@katelawyer3689 " Youre a wage slave! " okay mr intellectual keep repeating the same phrases that speak about obvious real life facts but in a corny melodramatic pseudo intellectual way so you look like a genious that escaped the matrix