@@Biblecrusader It can be done with any EV as long as you have the programming tools necessary to bypass safeguards that may get in the way. The physically easiest and safest way would be to re-purpose the AC input by hard-wiring it to the generators but by default, the on-board charger is supposed to force the vehicle into park while active. If you mod the generator for HVDC output, you may need to program various modules so they don't complain that there is a 5-10kW mismatch between the BMS, motor inverter, HVAC system, 12V converter and other HVDC loads. I came to watch the earlier video in the saga to find out exactly how this was hooked up. From the newer diesel video, it looked like he tapped into the HVDC bus since he had DC out. That would be the most efficient way to go. Generator stator re-wired as 300V L-L 3ph -> 3ph rectifier bridge -> maybe an extra protection diode to prevent DC from getting dumped into the generator should one of the bridge diodes fail -> EMI filter -> HVDC, adjust field strength to regulate output current/power as needed. At least that is how I would want to do a BEV to series hybrid conversion.
This has to be the dumbest thing I've ever seen! Whats the point of this! You're using a gas engine to charge an rlectric vehicle!?!? Im not going to finish watching this crap! I suggest everyone else do the same!! This is pointless! I am dumber for having watched the beginning of this video. Luckily I stopped watching it. Dont recommend this video! Here's an idea...instead of stopping to fill up your gas generator... drive a ford focus and fill that up instead!!
Kind of a-hole move to make it so loud. In Europe this thing would be impounded in 30min. Not only at the hotel, it annoys everyone everywhere. Not fun...
It was hard, and I cut a lot of those details out of the video but when I muffled it down it didn't have enough power to make the wattage I needed. It was very close, the unit is very small and custom built so I had restrictions and I also have time restrictions. But let me tell you I parked all the way on the end of the parking lot every single time. I was just considerate as I could be with still getting the job done
I tried to make it quieter, but when I muffled it down too much it didn't make enough power to produce the wattage I needed, I was as considerate as I could be and I parked as far away as possible. That's the best I could do with still getting a job done
"Full throttle". That engine would be running at the 3600rpm ( "universal" speed for 60HZ electric motors matched by small gas engines used interchangeably with those motors) that it's designed for full time operation. You would be confusing that with running an engine at high rpm full throttle which it was designed to do only briefly.
It definitely needs a quieter muffler just so you don't have to worry about attracting so much attention while parking leaving it. The flames coming out is sick though, so it's kinda worth the noise
Didnt know you could with that ...Can you actually install a mini muffler on it that would drown out the noise? And 2, would a muffler reduce power generation?
@@MegaNadir123 I saw him say in some other comments, he tried a muffler, but it reduced performance too much. I would imagine it takes some thinking to design a good flowing AND quiet exhaust. Maybe a resonator tuned to park frequency, would be easier to add
@@BasedBidoof The problem with quiet exhausts is they're usually less efficient. You may have heard some people saying you don't need back pressure. You don't, ever.
@@skylined5534 I suppose you can design an exhaust with no real back pressure that still silences the motor, but itd need to be very big instead. Like 3 semi truck silencers in a row ought to do it, they flow good enough to not be a restriction and would kill the sound for example. Going even more overboard a sound insulated room would be a good silencer with no backpressure, but kinda hard to mount on a tesla.
@@killsalot78 Did you actually watch the video? He explained explicitly why this was not an option. A muffler would have cut power to a degree where this wouldn’t have worked anymore.
@@robinsonreichel1268 yeah no, mufflers for generators are a thing and IMO he could easily have just used a 3" ID muffler without hurting performance. after the first pipe just routed down and around. He just didn't want to put in the work for an ugly muffler system when he could have cool hot rod porsche 918 exhaust
I think the next iteration would have to be quieter. Perhaps strapping two Clydesdales to the front, and have them pull the car. This will then give you the range and the cost savings on gas. But you might have to travel with bales of hay. You might even be able to call it a Mustang.
Bigger and quieter engine would be nice, it's basically less efficient than swapping in a lawn mower engine directly except you have 1000 hp if its charged. @robotcantina8957 does those kind of builds.
@@Iahusha777Iahuah Look at 0:45. That's a standard inverter generator setup. Based on the orange color, location of the fan vent at the top of the shroud, and yellow cap on the oil tube it is very likely a WEN GN875iX open frame inverter generator. Champion and others have similar generators from the same factory, but in different colors. Perhaps the wires were extended to hide the inverter module under the floor panel, although the original wires might even have reached unchanged. The only real modification was that the quiet stock muffler was replaced with the noise-enhancing megaphone muffler. The spring mount, shape, straps and rivets match the "carbon fiber" look mufflers sold on Amazon for $35-$45. From the timeline and screen displays in the video he was pretty clearly only charging while parked. He just plugged in a standard charge cable to the original generator receptacle and used that, without touching the car's software or electronics. My guess is that he dismounted the charging inlet and rotated it to face the trunk interior. Perhaps he used a relay to fake unplugging the cable, or a lever+bracket to unplug the J1772 connector slightly, but he might have simply gone to the back of the car to plug the cable into the repositioned inlet after he parked.
There are electric, solar rechargeable battery systems that power whole homes. Hook one up to your Tesla and do it again. May not go 1600 miles May go further?
@@nutzeeer you don't need to build a pile of junk like this to test that. The car shows energy consumption on its display, and you know the generator output for the generator you're considering and the number number of hours per week that you're willing to run it. By the way, the answer is "none" - it makes no sense to run a portable generator instead of buying electricity from a utility.
Agreed. That exposed fuel line tap would he turned part way through the night round here. A polite message left, then police if it turned back on again between 10PM and 7AM
Man his solution to having to charge a Telsa was a gasoline engine. Genius. It is a surprise no one has ever thought of using a gasoline engine before in a car.
He wasn't saying this is a amazing car or that he is was genius for doing. The point of the video is basically that it is cool. Which videos can be made just because something is cool.
To those of you saying that it’s loud try losing power for three days and having to run a generator. That’s the life. I’m from Michigan. Cool to see you travel around our neck of the woods. I always joked about not having charging stations here and what would people do? Use a generator with gas? OMG. You did it!
Should have modified the engine to get higher rpm while being more reliable. Also that exhaust was probably the loadest option you could have went with. There are plenty of mufflers with silencers integrated with them
imagine if you actually make like a muffler system that actually makes the engine not that noisy but still kept the 10kw power output and do a legal cannonball run on that
The engine itself is rather noisy as these small engines isn't built with noise suppression in mind. Quieting the exhaust will only achieve so much ...
The cannonballrs need to take a page from the Airforce in-flight refuling book and refuel while driving (e.g. fast tanker and a hose). No "stops" per se, just slow down a bit...
Thanks, I know it does but I can't release those details yet, I really want to because it would be very entertaining. I just can't do it yet until I get to like episode number four
Yes, this is possibly the future. In an era where automakers are designing cars to break and be unfixable in 10, 8, 6 years... (showroom to junkyard business model) A Tesla that can run 500k miles and an adapter kit for some generator from Tractor Supply is a great solution. Some people think cars should last longer than 8 years. Any idea what the real MPG situation is?
You just created a hybrid! That generator is pulling hard. You need a larger motor. That is a loud generator. Very cool. I love it. Find a better motor and exhaust, and do an update.
The calculated MPG is surprisingly similar to a MB S-Class, using Premium gas. I'm surprised it did so well considered the Jerry-rigging involved. Fun experiment.
I think because it does just always run at an efficient rpm and does not change that rpm all the time (breaking and accelerating the mass of the engine and running at not efficient rpms) Although my 2002 non hybrid gasoline Toyota does 33-40MPG in the city and even less on faster roads which is still better than the tesla :D (and a hybrid car would still be way better than this xD) But VW or BMW had a similar thing in their first electric vehicle as a 'range extender' that charged the battery when it gets low on charge. That jerry rigged setup is just like a diesel-electric-locomotive but with an underpowered engine and a huuuuge battery xD
The Tesla is roughly a 25-30 mpg (US) car by petrol to electricity conversion standards. It weighs 2 tonnes though so will have quite a bit of rolling resistance, and a similar sized petrol engine vehicle will use about the same. You could probably play around with the amp charging rate to see what puts most energy in the battery for how much fuel the generator burns.
He mentioned that he tried to muffle it more, but it wouldn't generate the watts he needed. There probably is a better way to do it, but the bottom line is he's one man that built a better car than the original automaker.
@@Rokomarn He's not really a Tesla owner if he modified it to the extent that he did, thing doesn't act like a Tesla at all now. It's actually a good car now! Also he owns a Supra, so he's not exactly the sack of crap you're trying to make him out to be.
@@nobodynoone2500 yes I agree, what was the whole point of this project? To cause a whole lot of annoyance with a loud asf generator which is only charging at "10kw" when he could've just stopped at supercharge stations along the way and charged at upto 250kw. And he still had to stop and get fuel too lol
I seen this Tesla with the tail pipe coming out the window at the Home Depot just outside Detroit in a city called southgate. I first thought the window was blown up or he took it out to haul a generator. I was in a hurry to do a tile job but I did think it was odd 🤣. I recorded his car as I was passing by. Now I think it's badass! Awesome
This was a lot of fun but you basically made a Chevy Volt. I’m looking forward to the next episode. Would be cool if you could add a larger battery in a new build which could be super charged. That’s something I’d buy.
GM made a lot of effort to get the Volt working just right. The ICE was carefully selected to be quiet and efficient whilst producing enough power to keep up with average performance. I feel it is highly likely that this consideration limited the overall performance that resulted, as they didn't want to end up fighting with customers or lawyers. I've always been fascinated by this engineering niche, and it is great to see someone tackle it in such a simplistic way. Clearly a bigger generator is needed, it'll make more power and less noise, and a longer exhaust will be necessary. There seems to be enough room, lets see the next installment.
That motor is possibly the loudest option you used, they have stealth generators that run almost silent, and probably put out more power than that what looks like a harbor freight engine.
I purchased a BMW i3s with what BMW calls a “range extender.” It’s a little 2 cylinder 600cc BMW scooter engine that they de-rated the power output. It’s so quiet you can hardly hear it run. It also keeps the car traveling at highway speeds with no problem. Fuel tank holds a little over 2 gallons and the range extender starts on its own when the battery reaches a set level of charge. No range anxiety ever. Just find a gas station about every 90 miles and you can go forever. Very cool and better looking than a Tesla. Plus the car is carbon fiber just like a million dollar super car.
Imagine if you had a tiny APU gas turbine attached instead. Then you’d have a generator AND a jet engine all in one! Probably would’ve been a lot more efficient as well. Also, maybe an i3 Rex 650cc twin could’ve worked too if you’ve figured out how to charge the Tesla this way
@@michaelbigelow3255 well in fact, turbines weren't used in cars because of throttle response And what he says is... Well, you could say is factible, just look at the New Ariel car, is an electric car with an Hidrogen turbine generator
@@RDYDX no. they're terribly inefficient in a car especially. imagine waiting at a red light and your car idles always at 5000 rpm. that's essentially what a turbine is doing. if you did nothing but sit on a highway all day maybe you could consider it. but otherwise it's not even an argument.
To have a lower decibel, a good muffler with a catalyst and insulation inside the car could be a good plan, but you'd have to find a better ratio of gears to produce a better energy source. Imagine, you make a smart system so that the engine starts by itself at like 65% of the battery level: less electricity to pay and a better fuel economy. The perfect hybrid.
Im from Michigan so i appreciate how you got a free trip to Mackinac island and Cedar Point for this video, my dad worked there in the 70s i was there for the opening of the Raptor and Millennium force
@@202vaughn I saw those stats but I am looking for the total gallons of gas used for the entire trip. Its not a calculation but a fact that could be given like from a gas station receipt.
I have some expensive TEG cells you can put on that hot exhaust to get like .01% more power out of it, and I can probably come up with some other useless suggestions if you give me some more time. Love that you took the time to build this!
Ahh man, I already moved on to version 2, I started building version 2 almost 2 months ago and I waited until I was almost done to post this video so I can have them back to back. So I did away with that heat monster
Thanks for spending so much time effort and money doing this so I dont have to ;-). I especially loved the Data at the end of the video. Cant wait to see your next range extender experiment.
Kubota makes a perfect engine for this. Either a 2 or 3 cylinder. With more torque and thermal efficiency, going this route would return you better results (as well as being even more hilarious). This is coming from a person who has a degree in On-Site Diesel Technology and Power Generation. I work on generators and have seen every problem imaginable. I love your videos and seeing this one hit me personally. Thank you so much for showing us this experience, please follow through with what you are doing. 🙂
Thanks however, I actually started building version 2 almost two months ago, but I waited until I was almost done with version 2 to post the video for version 1, this one. You have a lot of experience, so you know what works and what doesn't 🙂. Your going to like the next one for sure
I came here from the Donut video collab you did, but I also remembered I saw an article about this from one of those car publications a few weeks ago. They were just complaining about it and hating on it the whole time so I knew it had to be good 😂 some people need to get over themselves or just take a break lol
This should make people appreciate the Outlander PHEV 2023 more. It's basically the same thing, but well refined, and the generator can always keep up with demand.
Nah, a Chevrolet volt / Opel Ampera is a range extended electric car, it has a big battery and a generator for when it's needed, but can be plugged in. And is 10 years old
I've had thoughts of doing something similar, though I would have put the engine/fuel/generator on a small trailer and come up with some kind of power connector to get the energy into the car. Awesome project
At what point are you just making it a 7,000 Lb expensive per mile vehicle. You shouldn’t be proud you thought of that, it defeats the whole purpose of an ev, which is cost efficiency. If you want a car with long mileage without stopping, buy a Prius hitch a small trailer and feed it 100 gallons, that’ll get you 3,000 miles at 40mpg. Trying to rig a Tesla into a gas guzzler is so counter productive and costly. It’s not like you don’t need to stop to pee and eat.
This project is awesome! Maybe use one of those small diesel engines from before (the go-kart) instead of the tiny gas engine. That way it would probably be quite a bit quieter as the engine wouldn’t be running at max all the time. That would be essentially exactly like a diesel electric locomotive on a train. I’m interested in how your generator interfaces with the charger circuits, since the car obviously doesn’t see that it’s charging.
dont know much about teslas but i would imagine the regen brake circuit would be easiest to tap into. those are basically "generators" already. ya i think in order to get enough power from the small engine to barely brake even he was maybe outside of the most efficient rpm range of the engine. that usually doesnt overlap much with the power band. you can kind of see this from the significant change in fuel economy based on speed. the model S is more aerodynamic than that and shouldnt be effected so much at such low speeds unless it was really windy
Comparable diesel engine would be louder, much louder.. I think motorcycle engine is way better for this load, just need custom crank case without transmission to directly connect to generator unit. 250ccs can give about 10kw @5k-6k rpm and can be pushed to 20+kw in full throttle, and im sure it wont be as stressed as that gx390s
@@briliankamil4594 nah a 10kw diesel engine would be far quieter. An efficient small diesel would run at 1600-1800 rpm and that gas engine is spinning at 3600rpm. the longevity and noise of the diesel wins all day.
@@chrisleahy7664 it depend on the usage, your average diesel generator usually has complete soundproof case, which have to be stripped for this usage.. And bare diesel engine is loud..
@@chrisleahy7664 It's an inverter generator. It's not tied to 3600 RPM. It is only running at high speed because he switched off the 'eco' mode to make the most noise and get the most attention. If he wanted to run quietly he would have used the original muffler.
I don't recall hearing anything of a generator. Only a noisy 400cc engine "that makes about 10,000 watts, total," and it charges batteries. Not very good though.
@@TheRocky3211 BMS i.e. Battery management system, and the fact that the battery pack is made up of numerous individual cells. You are right that a single cell cannot be charged and discharged at the same time, but different cells can.
I think this one is in the land of never never land and the land of make believe... at least for now. Clickbait if you look carefully. There's no real generator to be shown.
@@randybobandy9828 Yes sir. Where's the actual generator? I don't even see the drive shaft coming out of the crankcase in any shots... let alone a pulley, sprocket or gear being present on that driveshaft. I don't there's a gear box with some sort of voodoo reduction coming out the bottom coupled to a generator. bs... though might be inspirational if not clickbait to generate ad revenue.
@@randybobandy9828 Not saying can't be done... since short runs of even 6.5HP engines have been made to output 50HP+... though aren't cheap and aren't common in the World. Either way... you still need a generator (technically alternator to make AC... though for some reason the term generator is used interchangeably mainstream where technically a generator outputs DC).
The next goal should be to make it as silent as possible. Not sure if the noise is coming from the motor itself or the exhaust, but I'm quite sure some of the noise can be reduced with some custom made insulation panels. Unless the real reason to leave it open is for thermals.
The build is incredible! Seeing it in person in detail was very impressive. I can't wait to see rev 2.0 and the jet pontoon will be on the water for next time! I'll see you around.
Thanks! Took me long enough to get the video up... And I didn't even have a good thumbnail smh. But I can't wait to build version too which I'm currently working on and get back by you and see your boat in action!
Awesome content! Thanks for helping and visiting my friend Nick! Two of my favorite stops, Mackinaw Island and Nick's house. Can I ask what waterjet you use?
You do know he probably faked it right? He never shows how he actually tapped into Tesla's electrical system to charge the battery. Until he actually shows this and proves his wh/mile efficiency improves with the generator off vs on while driving I'm inclined to believe he faked it and just simply charged at regular chargers off camera.
@@ElectricGlider2016 so I'm the jet engine pontoon guy he stopped at in the video. Also an electrical engineer. It is 100% is real I assure you seeing it first hand. There's a reason he can't show all the details yet. Just hang tight for upcoming videos. He's not a guy who fakes stuff, look at his other videos...
And likely the dirtiest cordless tesla ever. Just think the carbon footprint of the tesla with the extra carbon. Not to mention Oxides of nitrogen carbon monoxide. Lets not forget the Co2. I thought the Idea of the tesla was no Co2 emissions ? As for safest I think the national transportation safety board would disagree with the modifications.
@@bad406camaro - _A lot of these people commenting are just plain stupid as hell.. He also said in his description "without ever having to charge" which is 100 percent false and lying because he IS in fact charging the car!!_ *Unless he's so stupid that he doesn't know plugging the wire into the tesla's battery port IS CHARGING the damn thing!! Also leaving the engine running on it overnight IS also CHARGING IT!! These people nowadays, omg!!*
@@WarpedYT - Nice Username! Your jet boat buddy was right: it's a travelling "Flame Thrower!" I think tyou would have "Died" if your first Cell Phone was one of those old "Brick" Phones!
You never mentioned how much you spent on fuel. Based on the Data you supplied on the MPG, I am assuming you averaged about 19 MPG for the 1800 mile trip. That's about Somewhere in the neighborhood of $325 or so depending on the cost of the gas per gallon and that was just for the driving time. We don't know how much fuel was used up when the car was idle overnight or parked on the side of the road. Anyway it seemed to be an exciting experiment. I'm really glad your leaking didn't cause an explosion!
How about for the bigger and better build you make a trailer with the generator on it? For around town, the car can remain stock. For road trips, you hitch up the trailer and plug in the extension cord. Harbor Freight makes some surprisingly quiet generators that could be used as the power plant.
I think it's charging through regenerative braking in some way. You can see negative power usage on the screen while he's driving in the city, which usually indicates the car is braking regeneratively. Maybe he just has the engine directly connected to the drive shaft and the car automatically brakes to keep in sync with the "gas" pedal.
Your video helps me to appreciate the hybrid cars a bit more. Teslas are outstanding cars. If Tesla would offer the option of a quiet, efficient engine that only charges the batteries in times of need, that would be an unbeatable combo.
I know you had a time limit, but this is something I'd love to see more of in an optimal iteration. I think combustion range extenders should be an option offered to every single EV.
That or all body solar, stata plates or thermal conducting energy added. One can't power itself forever, but lots of little add ons back each other up (less weight and more recovery)
The whole video I'm like, "He's going to all the places right around me. Neat." Then you're like, stopped in Grand Rapids. Fun. Literally a 10 min drive.
The concept is awesome!!! I just seen a Honda 6800 watt generator that was as quiet as my 2000 watt generator. It would absolutely fit in the back of your car and it would be way way quieter
@0:50 his gasoline power plant generates 10,000W with 13.4HP. Even with that much wattage, it still not enough for the Tesla consumption. How the 6,800W generator going to be enough?
@@Lostcomms7600 Volt can directly drive the wheels through the Voltec gearbox. There are many different modes it can operate in, all automatically of course. And the integrated gas engine is 84HP on the Volt, not 13.4HP. It can do power balancing with the electric motor to give extra oompf when you really need it. (Not that the electric motor needs it. It's already very torquey.)
I love the concept and your modding skills were very impressive, but I would have liked to have seen a quieter and more powerful generator. I think you probably wished the same thing. Fun video, though.
The power output was okay, maybe 15 or 20 kw and not 10 kw but it works like this. A quieter generator with higher efficiency and maybe a heatexchanger for the cold days could be a perfect fit
@@chechnyaidk but maybe for those 5 reasons 1 the car couldnt resist the cold or really hot weather in some places 2 maybe because it was a new thing mechanics are learning how to get fix parts 3 speaking or parts maybe they are more expensive 4 maybe the prius got all the lights and eyes making other hyprids unknown 5 the car safety wasnt the best keep in mind i dont live in america and i dont why it failed i am just giving reasons that could be the reason
I wish you showed more of how this actually worked! Would love to see how you can charge while the car is moving and where you tied into the system to except the input of power. Normally, a Tesla will not move or drive while it is charging. Any chance you could share more about all of that?? :D
Holy moly! What an amazing build. I had heard about and thought about something like this, but never thought anyone could build it so well. Waterproof, can charge while driving and best of all, the car registers it as regen and can account for the energy put into the batteries! Great work, Matt
@@samusaran7317 A Honey crisp is sweet and slightly tart and a granny smith is mostly tart...good baking apple....You can't however grow an apple without a tree.....I don't understand your point but there is my comparasin....Just like you can't charge a battery without a charger.
This seems like a hell of a lot more planning and work, than just stopping at a supercharger for a little bit.... not to mention having to listen to that generator the whole time... count me out on this.
Or you can just drive any economy car manufactured after 2010…most get between 35-45 mpg average…electric cars are for rich people who want to virtue signal, truth is oil is effective because of the laws of physics and no law of man will change that fact ….14:59 ….my 2000 1 ton diesel truck gets better # towing 18 thousand pounds through the mountains of Utah 😂😂😂
this is such a cool project! if i saw this i would understand exactly what it was as soon as i seen it, i wonder how many people shared the same experience as you passed them. definitely hyped for the next episode
i wonder if a diesel motor would get you more power and what about a quieter exhaust? not gonna lie id would love to see it with a small diesel motor and stack exhausts similar to a semi truck lol
that's a badass concept, with a larger engine you could potentially only run it for an hour or two after shutoff, although youd be on a slippery slope of gas consumption.
You could even remove the batteries, fill up the frunk with a larger engine and add a gas tank at the bottom where the batteries where. Then you could just go to a gas station and fill up the tanks there. Only takes a few seconds!
It wasn't that bad, the new version (video will be on RUclips this Thursday has over 1000mi of range on a full charge at 75mph which was impressive, I worked my butt off for the last year on that project which is why I haven't had any videos on RUclips for so long. It was very impressive, there were a lot of issues but I'm already on version 3 and I think I got the majority of issues worked out. But yeah you're right, if I want to drive continuous non-stop with unlimited range realistically I need about 18kw to 20kw depending on the speed I want to maintain. I think you'll appreciate my newest video, it was beyond difficult to make it work. Thanks
From SouthAfrica, was awaiting someone to do a regeneration solution detailed vid and analysis like this. Definitely agree that a larger generator would have been more efficient. We will be watching for the follow-up...Excellent work Bud!
@@robinsonreichel1268 I love people that can't wrap their head around the fact that the purpose doesn't have to practical. This dude gets to say he did this! Your solution would be a video about a person that bought a Prius. Very practical, but extremely boring! GREAT JOB WARPED PERCEPTION!!!!
Just finished watching the video. He's talking about needing more power so he doesn't need to stop as much. But my observation is that he also needs a MUCH more powerful muffler. He's being really, really obnoxious to other people with that noise. That said, this is a very interesting project, enough so that I subscribed. Full-on EVs with the ability to bolt on (or perhaps tow) a generator & gas tank seem like an important future market segment.
Some upgrades I'd like to see- exhaust tip running out under the back of the car like a ICE car, remote start/shutoff ran up front for the generator, and maybe try a inverter generator. They only rev up and run hard when a heavier load is applied. It would be more quite in some situations and maybe use less gas
Inverter generator won't help much this generator is running full throttle the whole time making 10kw. Highway average for teslas is like 300 wh/mi so you'd need a 25kw generator to never have to slow down. That's also more than the level 2 charger can take so you'd have to dc charge the batteries (i don't know if he's already doing that).
Wow this is so impressive I’d love to know how much you spent in gas during the whole trip granted you did say you were leaking almost halfway but goddamn that generator is a beast it would be cool to get a big enough power plant in the back that you could use during the night or during stops that could fully charge the batteries in under a hour I think that would be pretty gnarly
Assuming perfect efficiency from engine shaft to the battery you'd need about 114 horsepower to charge in under an hour. Most full-sized car engines can't sustain that much power.
That would be expensive as shit and surely there's an upper limit on how fast you can charge a battery without turning it into an explosive, those lithium batteries can blow big. I love the acceleration of electric motors obviously but there's not really that many use cases where electric cars are preferable over their gas counterparts... Without even getting into price
You don't realy get the point of this. He drove without charging but that's not the smart thing about it. The real smart part is, that he can use a weak gaspowerd generator to drive a high performance car. He get's all benefits of the electric car and on top the range of an gasoline car. This was an extrem test. On a real trip he could just charge it normaly from time to time
@@hackfleischking5162 He didn't want to stop to charge but damn - how many times did he have to pull over to get gas or wait hours for the battery to charge up.
Absolutely love this video. I've always had a love hate relationship with Tesla and mods like this I believe is amazing and healthy for the entire car community. Keep up the good content. This is my first video I've seen from your channel but I'm subscribed to see more!
This would be awesome as an option when you can’t find a charger or just leaving it on while driving! But using this in tandem with chargers would be legit
Thank you, that's the one I told you about when I saw you in person last, it was not easy let me tell you. But if my second version works out I will have practically unlimited range.
dude this is AMAZZZIIINNNGGG what u did to the Tesla. i know it still need to be better but damn, to rig up a pricey Tesla all for the love of building some crazy sht is awesome bro..
You could just stop for charging but less often / for less time, and run your generator the rest of the time. You would still likely stop for bathroom / food / stretch breaks anyway, so there is no point in avoiding it (other than for the cool story). Sick build though.
@VRStudio you are spot on that is a clear sign that it was running rich. Which is garbage for efficiency. If this guy wants to get rid of the range anxiety and road trip at proper speeds with an expensive luxury car he should have just bought a Lexus LS 600h and been done with it. V8 plug in hybrid that gets far better mileage than this monstrosity, oh and quiet too.
Dude, I love the idea. Car makers really should think about it. Not only range extender. We should be able to leave range extender engine keep running all night long.
Part 2- *Turbo Diesel Cordless Tesla* ruclips.net/video/seHWJMKwOQQ/видео.html
Could something like this be done with a Nissan Leaf? I want to modify my leaf to to something similar.
@@Biblecrusader It can be done with any EV as long as you have the programming tools necessary to bypass safeguards that may get in the way. The physically easiest and safest way would be to re-purpose the AC input by hard-wiring it to the generators but by default, the on-board charger is supposed to force the vehicle into park while active. If you mod the generator for HVDC output, you may need to program various modules so they don't complain that there is a 5-10kW mismatch between the BMS, motor inverter, HVAC system, 12V converter and other HVDC loads.
I came to watch the earlier video in the saga to find out exactly how this was hooked up. From the newer diesel video, it looked like he tapped into the HVDC bus since he had DC out. That would be the most efficient way to go. Generator stator re-wired as 300V L-L 3ph -> 3ph rectifier bridge -> maybe an extra protection diode to prevent DC from getting dumped into the generator should one of the bridge diodes fail -> EMI filter -> HVDC, adjust field strength to regulate output current/power as needed. At least that is how I would want to do a BEV to series hybrid conversion.
This has to be the dumbest thing I've ever seen! Whats the point of this! You're using a gas engine to charge an rlectric vehicle!?!? Im not going to finish watching this crap! I suggest everyone else do the same!! This is pointless! I am dumber for having watched the beginning of this video. Luckily I stopped watching it. Dont recommend this video! Here's an idea...instead of stopping to fill up your gas generator... drive a ford focus and fill that up instead!!
The poor people who shared the hotel with you. I can only imagine hearing that engine all night and not being able to sleep
Kind of a-hole move to make it so loud. In Europe this thing would be impounded in 30min. Not only at the hotel, it annoys everyone everywhere. Not fun...
It was hard, and I cut a lot of those details out of the video but when I muffled it down it didn't have enough power to make the wattage I needed. It was very close, the unit is very small and custom built so I had restrictions and I also have time restrictions. But let me tell you I parked all the way on the end of the parking lot every single time. I was just considerate as I could be with still getting the job done
Well that's why I love the USA, the wild west baby!
I tried to make it quieter, but when I muffled it down too much it didn't make enough power to produce the wattage I needed, I was as considerate as I could be and I parked as far away as possible. That's the best I could do with still getting a job done
@@WarpedYT tbh in Europe some green love activists would have set that car on fire :D
We have to give that generator some credit. It ran at full throttle for roughly a week.
What would we do without fossil fuels 🤡🌎
"Full throttle". That engine would be running at the 3600rpm ( "universal" speed for 60HZ electric motors matched by small gas engines used interchangeably with those motors) that it's designed for full time operation. You would be confusing that with running an engine at high rpm full throttle which it was designed to do only briefly.
I ran a harbor freight generator 15 days straight after an ice storm. Solar or wind power wouldn't have rescued me like that bad old petroleum did.
@@RCGshakenbakeSounds like Harbor Freight engines could save Europe from thier poor decisions to rely on so much “green” energy and Russia 😏
What was the point of this?
It definitely needs a quieter muffler just so you don't have to worry about attracting so much attention while parking leaving it. The flames coming out is sick though, so it's kinda worth the noise
Didnt know you could with that ...Can you actually install a mini muffler on it that would drown out the noise?
And 2, would a muffler reduce power generation?
@@MegaNadir123 I saw him say in some other comments, he tried a muffler, but it reduced performance too much. I would imagine it takes some thinking to design a good flowing AND quiet exhaust. Maybe a resonator tuned to park frequency, would be easier to add
Plus a lot of the noise from those small engines actually comes from the engine block and head itself as well as from the exhaust.
@@BasedBidoof
The problem with quiet exhausts is they're usually less efficient.
You may have heard some people saying you don't need back pressure. You don't, ever.
@@skylined5534 I suppose you can design an exhaust with no real back pressure that still silences the motor, but itd need to be very big instead. Like 3 semi truck silencers in a row ought to do it, they flow good enough to not be a restriction and would kill the sound for example. Going even more overboard a sound insulated room would be a good silencer with no backpressure, but kinda hard to mount on a tesla.
Yo, I'm mad impressed that little engine ran flat-out, under full load, for like a week straight. Incredible!
This man's going for the world record for most overpriced hybrid car.
Hahaha... I'm pretty sure I already set that record.
More like the most inefficient car built in the 21st century
Fisker Karma? BMW I8?
🤣
getting gas is still considered charging
I would go crazy with this generator sound. It's too much even watching this video :D
Yeah. It's a cool project and fun for a video but stupid for practicality.
its a shame too because putting a functional muffler on it would have been quite easy
@@killsalot78
Did you actually watch the video? He explained explicitly why this was not an option.
A muffler would have cut power to a degree where this wouldn’t have worked anymore.
@@robinsonreichel1268 yeah no, mufflers for generators are a thing and IMO he could easily have just used a 3" ID muffler without hurting performance. after the first pipe just routed down and around. He just didn't want to put in the work for an ugly muffler system when he could have cool hot rod porsche 918 exhaust
I couldn't finish watching the video because of that sound, horrific.
I think the next iteration would have to be quieter. Perhaps strapping two Clydesdales to the front, and have them pull the car. This will then give you the range and the cost savings on gas. But you might have to travel with bales of hay. You might even be able to call it a Mustang.
Lol best comment yet
Or buy a Hybrid.....
Bigger and quieter engine would be nice, it's basically less efficient than swapping in a lawn mower engine directly except you have 1000 hp if its charged. @robotcantina8957 does those kind of builds.
Very bad idea, It could encourage him to drink Bud Light, And couldn't watch the video if he dressed up as a woman.
@@realsecmanI'm not aware of any 1000 hp hybrids.
I would love to see a video of your alternator/generator setup, how you wired it into the internal Tesla battery charger, etc.
This is what still puzzles me
He didn't have one in this video he tricked dummies. There is nothing attached to the engine and its very clearly shown in the video
@@Iahusha777Iahuah Look at 0:45. That's a standard inverter generator setup. Based on the orange color, location of the fan vent at the top of the shroud, and yellow cap on the oil tube it is very likely a WEN GN875iX open frame inverter generator. Champion and others have similar generators from the same factory, but in different colors. Perhaps the wires were extended to hide the inverter module under the floor panel, although the original wires might even have reached unchanged.
The only real modification was that the quiet stock muffler was replaced with the noise-enhancing megaphone muffler. The spring mount, shape, straps and rivets match the "carbon fiber" look mufflers sold on Amazon for $35-$45.
From the timeline and screen displays in the video he was pretty clearly only charging while parked. He just plugged in a standard charge cable to the original generator receptacle and used that, without touching the car's software or electronics. My guess is that he dismounted the charging inlet and rotated it to face the trunk interior. Perhaps he used a relay to fake unplugging the cable, or a lever+bracket to unplug the J1772 connector slightly, but he might have simply gone to the back of the car to plug the cable into the repositioned inlet after he parked.
Or skip the entire thing and buy a hybrid car.
I don't think he wired it in at all.
I want to see this done with some super quiet suitcase generators in parallel. Stealth charge
There are electric, solar rechargeable battery systems that power whole homes. Hook one up to your Tesla and do it again. May not go 1600 miles May go further?
@@besperus4475 How are you supposed to fit an entire roof's worth of solar panels on a car?
This could be a test bed for how much generator is enough. How much can we drive a week using a tiny inverter generator?
@@nutzeeer you don't need to build a pile of junk like this to test that. The car shows energy consumption on its display, and you know the generator output for the generator you're considering and the number number of hours per week that you're willing to run it.
By the way, the answer is "none" - it makes no sense to run a portable generator instead of buying electricity from a utility.
@@besperus4475 have you seen how big those solar power panels are. There isn’t enough space on a Telsa
If I paid for a hotel room and had to listen to this thing charging all night...
@eroi bior generator noise is mostly mechanical noise other than exhaust. That's why permanent generators live inside of large sound deadening boxes.
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Agreed.
That exposed fuel line tap would he turned part way through the night round here.
A polite message left, then police if it turned back on again between 10PM and 7AM
@Lorien Lorenzo - I like you 🤝😸
@@markp8295 that's funny... Me no like noise so me send killers to fix. Gtfo rat snitch mf.
Man his solution to having to charge a Telsa was a gasoline engine. Genius. It is a surprise no one has ever thought of using a gasoline engine before in a car.
@@gregorychurch605 someone didn't get the point 🤣
Maybe when you use your brain and figure out if theres any 1800 miles gas car then let me know.
He wasn't saying this is a amazing car or that he is was genius for doing. The point of the video is basically that it is cool. Which videos can be made just because something is cool.
Wow your supper smart. That's awesome that you won a prize for the best comment. Be sure to send them your credit card information to claim your prize
@@gregorychurch605 not really it’s probably much more fuel efficient than a normal gas motor setup
To those of you saying that it’s loud try losing power for three days and having to run a generator. That’s the life. I’m from Michigan. Cool to see you travel around our neck of the woods. I always joked about not having charging stations here and what would people do? Use a generator with gas? OMG. You did it!
Should have modified the engine to get higher rpm while being more reliable. Also that exhaust was probably the loadest option you could have went with. There are plenty of mufflers with silencers integrated with them
lmaooo i have a setup on my can am like that and yea, its fucking loud lmfdaoooooo
He definitely did it for the memes
It's so freakin loud
"loadest option"?
@@bobjohnson1587 typo, loudest
imagine if you actually make like a muffler system that actually makes the engine not that noisy but still kept the 10kw power output and do a legal cannonball run on that
still gotta stop for gas and probably more often. plus its a distance over time thing like he said so he couldnt go fast ever.
The engine itself is rather noisy as these small engines isn't built with noise suppression in mind.
Quieting the exhaust will only achieve so much ...
The cannonballrs need to take a page from the Airforce in-flight refuling book and refuel while driving (e.g. fast tanker and a hose). No "stops" per se, just slow down a bit...
@@Mr.Engineer.
He needs a Honda generator.
You won't get close to any cannonbal record since you can't drive at sustained high speeds without draining and overheating the battery
I mean you could have put a more complicated and quiet exhaust system on. That would have made this build substantially better.
yeah and would not have annoyed so much people :D
Yeah, I love this build! He's got the space to put a real exhaust in there later on
I'm sure with a better engine (probably 2 pistons) and a bigger exhaust this would be pretty practical.
That was my immediate first thought, like bro damn that shit loud af surely could have put a more substantial muffler on it lol
Internal recirculating hydro diesel hybrid. Triple hybrid diesel bros
Just laughing my ass off at you guys discussing the turbo jet engine with the Tesla generator just roaring in the background lmaooo 👍
It would be cool to get a video more focused on the build. The build deserves more than 2 minutes of coverage.
Thanks, I know it does but I can't release those details yet, I really want to because it would be very entertaining. I just can't do it yet until I get to like episode number four
@@WarpedYT but it will be released?
@@WarpedYT oh thank god. there is a twist "phew" respect the trol--- i mean process i suppose
"the build" is fake .... that thing in the trunk is just a motor without any generator....
@Hates Spam sit and wait .... that is fake.
Reminds me of 12 years ago when they started selling 10ft phone charging cables. It came full circle corded, cordless, wireless, and back to corded
Would love to see a more indeph break down of how it's wired, just show us more on the generator to car connection
lol its not wired at all its just a generator in the trunk, where he changes idle speed to make it look like its charging
Yes, this is possibly the future.
In an era where automakers are designing cars to break and be unfixable in 10, 8, 6 years... (showroom to junkyard business model)
A Tesla that can run 500k miles and an adapter kit for some generator from Tractor Supply is a great solution.
Some people think cars should last longer than 8 years.
Any idea what the real MPG situation is?
@@akshonclip BS I haven't deleted even 1 comment on this video. please be honest.
@@joeyscleaninglady2877 you can close your eyes and hear that the engine is very loaded, an engine will not spit flames without load.
@@firstjohn26 Damn right as consumers we want options, especially at the current prices which are pretty outragous.
You just created a hybrid! That generator is pulling hard. You need a larger motor. That is a loud generator. Very cool. I love it. Find a better motor and exhaust, and do an update.
The calculated MPG is surprisingly similar to a MB S-Class, using Premium gas. I'm surprised it did so well considered the Jerry-rigging involved. Fun experiment.
Exactly and this is a very inefficient engine setup
I think because it does just always run at an efficient rpm and does not change that rpm all the time (breaking and accelerating the mass of the engine and running at not efficient rpms)
Although my 2002 non hybrid gasoline Toyota does 33-40MPG in the city and even less on faster roads which is still better than the tesla :D (and a hybrid car would still be way better than this xD)
But VW or BMW had a similar thing in their first electric vehicle as a 'range extender' that charged the battery when it gets low on charge.
That jerry rigged setup is just like a diesel-electric-locomotive but with an underpowered engine and a huuuuge battery xD
The Tesla is roughly a 25-30 mpg (US) car by petrol to electricity conversion standards. It weighs 2 tonnes though so will have quite a bit of rolling resistance, and a similar sized petrol engine vehicle will use about the same. You could probably play around with the amp charging rate to see what puts most energy in the battery for how much fuel the generator burns.
@@WarpedYT ah jes, just did the conversion and my car can go about 60mpg at 75mph. But 75mph always feels so slow on german motorways.
My Mercedes Benz is way quieter, weighs less, gets 24MPG and people don't hate me.😂
Seems like it would be pretty easy to design a quiet flowing muffler and make that MUCH nicer.
PRT running an alternator and going crazy with a Peltier effect generator system for exhaust power extraction besides the PRT!
It would have been but he's a Tesla owner so....
He mentioned that he tried to muffle it more, but it wouldn't generate the watts he needed. There probably is a better way to do it, but the bottom line is he's one man that built a better car than the original automaker.
@@Rokomarn He's not really a Tesla owner if he modified it to the extent that he did, thing doesn't act like a Tesla at all now. It's actually a good car now! Also he owns a Supra, so he's not exactly the sack of crap you're trying to make him out to be.
@@BlueOvals24 cope
Hard to believe 10K watts from that small unit. Love the build. Thanks for sharing.
its fake, so he can claim anything. You can see it's just a stator winding and not a generator. He just ran an engine to annoy people.
Your mistaken,, start the video all over again and you can clearly see the generator,, look inside the plastic squirrel cage and you will see it.
@@nobodynoone2500 yes I agree, what was the whole point of this project? To cause a whole lot of annoyance with a loud asf generator which is only charging at "10kw" when he could've just stopped at supercharge stations along the way and charged at upto 250kw. And he still had to stop and get fuel too lol
@@SilentGamer-jt8dl Don’t watch the video of your annoyed.
I seen this Tesla with the tail pipe coming out the window at the Home Depot just outside Detroit in a city called southgate. I first thought the window was blown up or he took it out to haul a generator. I was in a hurry to do a tile job but I did think it was odd 🤣. I recorded his car as I was passing by. Now I think it's badass! Awesome
Amazing build! Looking forward to the next episode!!
Thanks, I hope you like it it was very loud...lol. I'm planning on swinging by you with version 2, hopefully you're ready for the ride haha.
Sure you can borrow a couple "lightly used" mower engines.
Project Farm in the house! 😂 love ya both.
@@WarpedYT I wonder whats louder, the cordless Tesla V1 or the Farmabago? looking forward to V2!!
make sure to plan some tests ! :D
This was a lot of fun but you basically made a Chevy Volt.
I’m looking forward to the next episode.
Would be cool if you could add a larger battery in a new build which could be super charged. That’s something I’d buy.
GM made a lot of effort to get the Volt working just right. The ICE was carefully selected to be quiet and efficient whilst producing enough power to keep up with average performance. I feel it is highly likely that this consideration limited the overall performance that resulted, as they didn't want to end up fighting with customers or lawyers.
I've always been fascinated by this engineering niche, and it is great to see someone tackle it in such a simplistic way.
Clearly a bigger generator is needed, it'll make more power and less noise, and a longer exhaust will be necessary.
There seems to be enough room, lets see the next installment.
With just one exception, it didn't burn up.
@@tedmoss you've got your Bolts and Volts mixed up
How do you "supercharge" a battery?
Except the Volt is more efficient on gas.
That motor is possibly the loudest option you used, they have stealth generators that run almost silent, and probably put out more power than that what looks like a harbor freight engine.
But then all of the other people staying at his hotel would actually be able to sleep
@@huntsw just tryna keep with the theme that electric cars have, silence. And in car terms. Basically make it a sleeper
Yeah, that was my biggest problem with this build. That thing was obnoxiously loud.
He could have gone with a diesel power plant and a quieter muffler for more power, but those cost a lot more
@@joeandrade223 Diesel is also really expensive in the US right now compared to Gasoline.
I purchased a BMW i3s with what BMW calls a “range extender.” It’s a little 2 cylinder 600cc BMW scooter engine that they de-rated the power output. It’s so quiet you can hardly hear it run. It also keeps the car traveling at highway speeds with no problem. Fuel tank holds a little over 2 gallons and the range extender starts on its own when the battery reaches a set level of charge. No range anxiety ever. Just find a gas station about every 90 miles and you can go forever. Very cool and better looking than a Tesla. Plus the car is carbon fiber just like a million dollar super car.
Imagine if you had a tiny APU gas turbine attached instead. Then you’d have a generator AND a jet engine all in one! Probably would’ve been a lot more efficient as well. Also, maybe an i3 Rex 650cc twin could’ve worked too if you’ve figured out how to charge the Tesla this way
This is what I was thinking, a turbine should be more efficient than a piston engine.
@@michaelbigelow3255 well in fact, turbines weren't used in cars because of throttle response
And what he says is... Well, you could say is factible, just look at the New Ariel car, is an electric car with an Hidrogen turbine generator
@@RDYDX no. they're terribly inefficient in a car especially. imagine waiting at a red light and your car idles always at 5000 rpm. that's essentially what a turbine is doing. if you did nothing but sit on a highway all day maybe you could consider it. but otherwise it's not even an argument.
Ariel is doing exactly that with their "Hipercar"
I've been saying for years the automotive industry needs to revisit turbine with a hybrid. Its the perfect, compact combo
To have a lower decibel, a good muffler with a catalyst and insulation inside the car could be a good plan, but you'd have to find a better ratio of gears to produce a better energy source. Imagine, you make a smart system so that the engine starts by itself at like 65% of the battery level: less electricity to pay and a better fuel economy. The perfect hybrid.
Its called electric-fist hybrid or Series hybrid or EREV.
Imagine a Prius that can do this, would get unbelievable efficiency
Some kind of crank and shaft combustible surface could also utilize the heat from the gasoline to create torque and thrust.
Oh man that engine noise made me smile the whole way through :D
"What's that racket!?"
"SCIENCE!"
Im from Michigan so i appreciate how you got a free trip to Mackinac island and Cedar Point for this video, my dad worked there in the 70s i was there for the opening of the Raptor and Millennium force
Congratulations! You achieved the same MPG as my Z71 4x4!
Do you know how many gallons of gas was burned during this road trip?
The stats are at the end of the video.
@@202vaughn I saw those stats but I am looking for the total gallons of gas used for the entire trip. Its not a calculation but a fact that could be given like from a gas station receipt.
Yeah but your Chevy is still burning more gas by 1800 miles.
@@BlueOvals24 If he was running that engine non stop as he said he was, MPG is still MPG. Where the hell do you come to this conclusion?
I have some expensive TEG cells you can put on that hot exhaust to get like .01% more power out of it, and I can probably come up with some other useless suggestions if you give me some more time. Love that you took the time to build this!
Ahh man, I already moved on to version 2, I started building version 2 almost 2 months ago and I waited until I was almost done to post this video so I can have them back to back. So I did away with that heat monster
Thanks for spending so much time effort and money doing this so I dont have to ;-). I especially loved the Data at the end of the video. Cant wait to see your next range extender experiment.
Kubota makes a perfect engine for this. Either a 2 or 3 cylinder. With more torque and thermal efficiency, going this route would return you better results (as well as being even more hilarious). This is coming from a person who has a degree in On-Site Diesel Technology and Power Generation. I work on generators and have seen every problem imaginable. I love your videos and seeing this one hit me personally. Thank you so much for showing us this experience, please follow through with what you are doing. 🙂
Thanks however, I actually started building version 2 almost two months ago, but I waited until I was almost done with version 2 to post the video for version 1, this one. You have a lot of experience, so you know what works and what doesn't 🙂. Your going to like the next one for sure
WHat could be the efficiency in a best case scenario?
@@OersJ a well-chosen engine could use roughly half as much fuel for the same energy produced.
@@brianb-p6586 so ~30% efficiency roughly?
@@OersJ yes - the best car engines manage 41%, not accounting for generator losses (5% or so).
I'd love to see this project scaled up with an all-electric pickup and a larger whole house standby generator
How about an all electric propulsion transatlantic ocean liner: Queen Mary 2
@@emperorzurg4707
like maybe the F150 powerboost
Peter I agree, a smaller pickup with a 220VAC output diesel gene under the bed with an ATV muffler to quiet it down.
I came here from the Donut video collab you did, but I also remembered I saw an article about this from one of those car publications a few weeks ago. They were just complaining about it and hating on it the whole time so I knew it had to be good 😂 some people need to get over themselves or just take a break lol
I was behind you in Macon Ga around the middle of Nov ‘23. Took a picture because I knew no one would believe me.
It's even hilarious if the generator used is a Honda. Very clever idea man👍
This should make people appreciate the Outlander PHEV 2023 more. It's basically the same thing, but well refined, and the generator can always keep up with demand.
Not outlander phev.. Audi A3 e-tfsi, Peugeot 3008, Honda clarity and other phev 'cars'
Nah, a Chevrolet volt / Opel Ampera is a range extended electric car, it has a big battery and a generator for when it's needed, but can be plugged in. And is 10 years old
@@thekiller2995 yeah but it's not a thousand horsepower all wheel drive, and it sure doesn't have self driving.
@@WarpedYT and sure does not cost the same, and it does not have all that noise.
@@thekiller2995: Yup, and GM axed it in favor of the Bolt. What a fiasco.
He’s still having to stop to wait for his generator to charge the car…that being said, cool that you were able to tie in to the HV system.
I've had thoughts of doing something similar, though I would have put the engine/fuel/generator on a small trailer and come up with some kind of power connector to get the energy into the car. Awesome project
I was gonna say the same thing but you beat me to it
At what point are you just making it a 7,000 Lb expensive per mile vehicle. You shouldn’t be proud you thought of that, it defeats the whole purpose of an ev, which is cost efficiency. If you want a car with long mileage without stopping, buy a Prius hitch a small trailer and feed it 100 gallons, that’ll get you 3,000 miles at 40mpg. Trying to rig a Tesla into a gas guzzler is so counter productive and costly. It’s not like you don’t need to stop to pee and eat.
This project is awesome!
Maybe use one of those small diesel engines from before (the go-kart) instead of the tiny gas engine. That way it would probably be quite a bit quieter as the engine wouldn’t be running at max all the time. That would be essentially exactly like a diesel electric locomotive on a train.
I’m interested in how your generator interfaces with the charger circuits, since the car obviously doesn’t see that it’s charging.
dont know much about teslas but i would imagine the regen brake circuit would be easiest to tap into. those are basically "generators" already.
ya i think in order to get enough power from the small engine to barely brake even he was maybe outside of the most efficient rpm range of the engine. that usually doesnt overlap much with the power band. you can kind of see this from the significant change in fuel economy based on speed. the model S is more aerodynamic than that and shouldnt be effected so much at such low speeds unless it was really windy
Comparable diesel engine would be louder, much louder..
I think motorcycle engine is way better for this load, just need custom crank case without transmission to directly connect to generator unit.
250ccs can give about 10kw @5k-6k rpm and can be pushed to 20+kw in full throttle, and im sure it wont be as stressed as that gx390s
@@briliankamil4594 nah a 10kw diesel engine would be far quieter. An efficient small diesel would run at 1600-1800 rpm and that gas engine is spinning at 3600rpm. the longevity and noise of the diesel wins all day.
@@chrisleahy7664 it depend on the usage, your average diesel generator usually has complete soundproof case, which have to be stripped for this usage..
And bare diesel engine is loud..
@@chrisleahy7664 It's an inverter generator. It's not tied to 3600 RPM. It is only running at high speed because he switched off the 'eco' mode to make the most noise and get the most attention. If he wanted to run quietly he would have used the original muffler.
I don't recall hearing anything of a generator. Only a noisy 400cc engine "that makes about 10,000 watts, total," and it charges batteries. Not very good though.
My system is so small you didn't even know it was a generator, mission accomplished
I can't get my head round how it's possible to simultaneously charge and discharge a battery
@@TheRocky3211 no different to a regular car…
@@riz3nfpv306 how ? I always thought a battery cannot be charged and discharged simultaneously
@@TheRocky3211 BMS i.e. Battery management system, and the fact that the battery pack is made up of numerous individual cells.
You are right that a single cell cannot be charged and discharged at the same time, but different cells can.
I would love to see a version with a bigger generator that could actually charge while driving.
Tesla efficiency shows up in that you can go so far with a 400 cc engine.
I think this one is in the land of never never land and the land of make believe... at least for now. Clickbait if you look carefully. There's no real generator to be shown.
@@jafinch78 lmao what? Are you trying to say the engine he installed isn't charging the battery?
@@randybobandy9828 Yes sir. Where's the actual generator? I don't even see the drive shaft coming out of the crankcase in any shots... let alone a pulley, sprocket or gear being present on that driveshaft. I don't there's a gear box with some sort of voodoo reduction coming out the bottom coupled to a generator. bs... though might be inspirational if not clickbait to generate ad revenue.
@@randybobandy9828 Not saying can't be done... since short runs of even 6.5HP engines have been made to output 50HP+... though aren't cheap and aren't common in the World. Either way... you still need a generator (technically alternator to make AC... though for some reason the term generator is used interchangeably mainstream where technically a generator outputs DC).
Surround yourself with people same as you. This dude got a friend with a turbojet engine boat. Omg
The next goal should be to make it as silent as possible. Not sure if the noise is coming from the motor itself or the exhaust, but I'm quite sure some of the noise can be reduced with some custom made insulation panels. Unless the real reason to leave it open is for thermals.
The build is incredible! Seeing it in person in detail was very impressive. I can't wait to see rev 2.0 and the jet pontoon will be on the water for next time! I'll see you around.
Thanks! Took me long enough to get the video up... And I didn't even have a good thumbnail smh. But I can't wait to build version too which I'm currently working on and get back by you and see your boat in action!
Awesome content! Thanks for helping and visiting my friend Nick! Two of my favorite stops, Mackinaw Island and Nick's house. Can I ask what waterjet you use?
You do know he probably faked it right? He never shows how he actually tapped into Tesla's electrical system to charge the battery. Until he actually shows this and proves his wh/mile efficiency improves with the generator off vs on while driving I'm inclined to believe he faked it and just simply charged at regular chargers off camera.
@@ElectricGlider2016 so I'm the jet engine pontoon guy he stopped at in the video. Also an electrical engineer. It is 100% is real I assure you seeing it first hand. There's a reason he can't show all the details yet. Just hang tight for upcoming videos. He's not a guy who fakes stuff, look at his other videos...
@@ElectricGlider2016 now why would I show everyone how I modified the Tesla system?
$$$ aside, this is the world smartest, safest and fastest hybrid ever.
EXACTLY!!!!! THANK YOU!! finally someone gets it. And autopilot and all the tech and features of a Tesla, it was a dream to drive long distances.
And likely the dirtiest cordless tesla ever. Just think the carbon footprint of the tesla with the extra carbon. Not to mention Oxides of nitrogen carbon monoxide. Lets not forget the Co2. I thought the Idea of the tesla was no Co2 emissions ? As for safest I think the national transportation safety board would disagree with the modifications.
Wonder how much gas he went through to do this whole trip
@@bad406camaro - _A lot of these people commenting are just plain stupid as hell.. He also said in his description "without ever having to charge" which is 100 percent false and lying because he IS in fact charging the car!!_
*Unless he's so stupid that he doesn't know plugging the wire into the tesla's battery port IS CHARGING the damn thing!! Also leaving the engine running on it overnight IS also CHARGING IT!! These people nowadays, omg!!*
@@WarpedYT - Nice Username! Your jet boat buddy was right: it's a travelling "Flame Thrower!"
I think tyou would have "Died" if your first Cell Phone was one of those old "Brick" Phones!
You never mentioned how much you spent on fuel. Based on the Data you supplied on the MPG, I am assuming you averaged about 19 MPG for the 1800 mile trip. That's about Somewhere in the neighborhood of $325 or so depending on the cost of the gas per gallon and that was just for the driving time. We don't know how much fuel was used up when the car was idle overnight or parked on the side of the road. Anyway it seemed to be an exciting experiment. I'm really glad your leaking didn't cause an explosion!
Nice work. I really love your energy and motivation and all of your fun projects. Please keep it up.
I feel the sudden urge to go buy a couple Kohler engines that I don't need. :) this video was very well done. Good job dude.
How about for the bigger and better build you make a trailer with the generator on it? For around town, the car can remain stock. For road trips, you hitch up the trailer and plug in the extension cord. Harbor Freight makes some surprisingly quiet generators that could be used as the power plant.
it would still use more fuel than a normal car.
It would ruin the aerodynamics more and trailers are ugly and annoying because you can't park in a regular space which can be a pain on a vacation.
Well done! How did you connect it to the onboard charger? does the car accept incoming power while driving or you had to modify it?
I think it's charging through regenerative braking in some way. You can see negative power usage on the screen while he's driving in the city, which usually indicates the car is braking regeneratively. Maybe he just has the engine directly connected to the drive shaft and the car automatically brakes to keep in sync with the "gas" pedal.
He glossed over that which seems sus tbh
Your video helps me to appreciate the hybrid cars a bit more. Teslas are outstanding cars. If Tesla would offer the option of a quiet, efficient engine that only charges the batteries in times of need, that would be an unbeatable combo.
I know you had a time limit, but this is something I'd love to see more of in an optimal iteration. I think combustion range extenders should be an option offered to every single EV.
That or all body solar, stata plates or thermal conducting energy added.
One can't power itself forever, but lots of little add ons back each other up (less weight and more recovery)
trailer unit
It's called a Plug-in hybrid 😂
Unless you mean a removable engine that you can leave home, or even just rent?
They are, they are called Hybrids.
Solar panels just mean one more thing in an EV that have a guaranteed replacement date where their efficiency drops so low it doesn’t do anything.
He did this while you sat and watched TV so just let him have his moment of fame because we all learned something from this, thank you! :-)
So run a gas generator to charge an electric car doesn’t that defeat the putpuse of the electric car?
@@101Bordeaux I respect your opinion but it's kind of like saying why bother running a marathon where you can just go eat potato chips all day?
What exactly did you learn from Argo’s stunt?
@@101Bordeaux
It absolutely does.
@@robinsonreichel1268 do the same thing or better and I'll reply
You sir are my new hero.. 😊
On the next build, use an APU from an airliner, but you are going to need a bigger fuel cell.
The whole video I'm like, "He's going to all the places right around me. Neat." Then you're like, stopped in Grand Rapids. Fun. Literally a 10 min drive.
Was going to say the same, nice to see him in my town of GR!!
The concept is awesome!!! I just seen a Honda 6800 watt generator that was as quiet as my 2000 watt generator. It would absolutely fit in the back of your car and it would be way way quieter
@0:50 his gasoline power plant generates 10,000W with 13.4HP. Even with that much wattage, it still not enough for the Tesla consumption. How the 6,800W generator going to be enough?
It’s basically what the Chevy volt does
@@Lostcomms7600 Volt can directly drive the wheels through the Voltec gearbox. There are many different modes it can operate in, all automatically of course. And the integrated gas engine is 84HP on the Volt, not 13.4HP. It can do power balancing with the electric motor to give extra oompf when you really need it. (Not that the electric motor needs it. It's already very torquey.)
I just came upon your channel today I live in toledo I wish i could have caught you coming through keep up the videos they are dope!
I love the concept and your modding skills were very impressive, but I would have liked to have seen a quieter and more powerful generator. I think you probably wished the same thing. Fun video, though.
I think a diesel generator like for a mobile home would have been perfect for this, enough torque to load it down and really make some electricity
The power output was okay, maybe 15 or 20 kw and not 10 kw but it works like this. A quieter generator with higher efficiency and maybe a heatexchanger for the cold days could be a perfect fit
8:46 "This is starting to feel like a regular roadtrip without the range anxiety" Welcome to the hybrid driving life!
Wow I’m always so impressed with your skills, creativity and craftsmanship! 💯😮
WOW. Your engine was ON and FLAMING in a Gas Station. I'm happy you're still here.
This hybrid tech is what vehicle manufacturers need to be improving.
The Chevy Volt operates this way and never really sold a huge amount. Why do they keep making ugly hybrids?
@@chechnyaidk but maybe for those 5 reasons
1 the car couldnt resist the cold or really hot weather in some places
2 maybe because it was a new thing mechanics are learning how to get fix parts
3 speaking or parts maybe they are more expensive
4 maybe the prius got all the lights and eyes making other hyprids unknown
5 the car safety wasnt the best
keep in mind i dont live in america and i dont why it failed i am just giving reasons that could be the reason
I wish you showed more of how this actually worked! Would love to see how you can charge while the car is moving and where you tied into the system to except the input of power. Normally, a Tesla will not move or drive while it is charging. Any chance you could share more about all of that?? :D
The only part I wanted to know, he didn't cover! 😭😭
I would say it's fake!
...accept...
@@gesenhausen2922 yes, just 'accept' it, except unless that's not what you meant :-P
Short out gps antenna.....it can't deny you after that.
Holy moly!
What an amazing build. I had heard about and thought about something like this, but never thought anyone could build it so well. Waterproof, can charge while driving and best of all, the car registers it as regen and can account for the energy put into the batteries!
Great work, Matt
I completely Agree!
It's just like my 2014 BMW i3... Except that can go 70mph without depleting the battery.
There is this thing called a prius that has been doing it for years....That's what my teacher told me.
@@russellaustin4988 Compare apples to apples. Try again
@@samusaran7317 A Honey crisp is sweet and slightly tart and a granny smith is mostly tart...good baking apple....You can't however grow an apple without a tree.....I don't understand your point but there is my comparasin....Just like you can't charge a battery without a charger.
This is BRILLIANT!! I can't wait for entire parking lots and driveways full of these!! -_-
I like these hybrid vlogs. Need more of these kind. I wish we had long roads in the UK. If you drive 3 hrs in any direction, you'll end up in sea.
This seems like a hell of a lot more planning and work, than just stopping at a supercharger for a little bit.... not to mention having to listen to that generator the whole time... count me out on this.
Yeah get a gas or hybrid Instead.
Or you can just drive any economy car manufactured after 2010…most get between 35-45 mpg average…electric cars are for rich people who want to virtue signal, truth is oil is effective because of the laws of physics and no law of man will change that fact ….14:59 ….my 2000 1 ton diesel truck gets better # towing 18 thousand pounds through the mountains of Utah 😂😂😂
This is much better than stopping every 300 miles and praying for a charging station
@@TexboyGamer literally nobody with an EV does that. Long road trips are planned around charging stops.
@@aj6761 that’s tough. I have to drive 1200 miles to see family no way I’m spending a day at the charging station
this is such a cool project! if i saw this i would understand exactly what it was as soon as i seen it, i wonder how many people shared the same experience as you passed them.
definitely hyped for the next episode
its way to fucking noisy but.
Solar Roof panels would have been a quieter choice, but i admire his creativity 😁👍🏻
i wonder if a diesel motor would get you more power and what about a quieter exhaust? not gonna lie id would love to see it with a small diesel motor and stack exhausts similar to a semi truck lol
Thanks, I've been working very hard on it for the last few months, almost done
you could always run a long ass pipe under the car as a muffler
Can you please show the wiring? Would be very interesting how you did that!
that's a badass concept, with a larger engine you could potentially only run it for an hour or two after shutoff, although youd be on a slippery slope of gas consumption.
You could even remove the batteries, fill up the frunk with a larger engine and add a gas tank at the bottom where the batteries where. Then you could just go to a gas station and fill up the tanks there. Only takes a few seconds!
@@RoloFilms I know you're pitching this sarcastically, but you've basically described the car version of a deisle-electric train engine
Need a minimum of 20kw. Hilarious and sweet build. I feel so sorry for the people trying to get some sleep in the hotels.
It wasn't that bad, the new version (video will be on RUclips this Thursday has over 1000mi of range on a full charge at 75mph which was impressive, I worked my butt off for the last year on that project which is why I haven't had any videos on RUclips for so long. It was very impressive, there were a lot of issues but I'm already on version 3 and I think I got the majority of issues worked out. But yeah you're right, if I want to drive continuous non-stop with unlimited range realistically I need about 18kw to 20kw depending on the speed I want to maintain. I think you'll appreciate my newest video, it was beyond difficult to make it work. Thanks
From SouthAfrica, was awaiting someone to do a regeneration solution detailed vid and analysis like this. Definitely agree that a larger generator would have been more efficient. We will be watching for the follow-up...Excellent work Bud!
Thank you
What is the purpose if you can instead buy a plug-in hybrid for remote areas?🤷♂️
@@robinsonreichel1268 I love people that can't wrap their head around the fact that the purpose doesn't have to practical. This dude gets to say he did this! Your solution would be a video about a person that bought a Prius. Very practical, but extremely boring! GREAT JOB WARPED PERCEPTION!!!!
Holy smokes Matt messed around and gone and done it again folks! Always something new and impressive on this channel. A gas powered Tesla!
Can't wait to see that Kohler diesel go on there. Hopefully, that's where the turbo is going too.
Hahah.... You know what's up!
Lol! Tesla S turbo diesel hybrid.
Just finished watching the video. He's talking about needing more power so he doesn't need to stop as much. But my observation is that he also needs a MUCH more powerful muffler. He's being really, really obnoxious to other people with that noise.
That said, this is a very interesting project, enough so that I subscribed. Full-on EVs with the ability to bolt on (or perhaps tow) a generator & gas tank seem like an important future market segment.
Some upgrades I'd like to see- exhaust tip running out under the back of the car like a ICE car, remote start/shutoff ran up front for the generator, and maybe try a inverter generator. They only rev up and run hard when a heavier load is applied. It would be more quite in some situations and maybe use less gas
Inverter generator won't help much this generator is running full throttle the whole time making 10kw. Highway average for teslas is like 300 wh/mi so you'd need a 25kw generator to never have to slow down. That's also more than the level 2 charger can take so you'd have to dc charge the batteries (i don't know if he's already doing that).
Nice work and deeeeeep pockets! I’d like love to see the engine be a two cylinder horizontally opposed diesel or a jet turbine.
I nominate this guy to be Champion Pointless Time Waster of the World.
My man loves gas engines so much he put one on an electric car, very based
Wow this is so impressive I’d love to know how much you spent in gas during the whole trip granted you did say you were leaking almost halfway but goddamn that generator is a beast it would be cool to get a big enough power plant in the back that you could use during the night or during stops that could fully charge the batteries in under a hour I think that would be pretty gnarly
Assuming perfect efficiency from engine shaft to the battery you'd need about 114 horsepower to charge in under an hour. Most full-sized car engines can't sustain that much power.
Much more than you'd use just driving regular gasoline powered car LOL
That would be expensive as shit and surely there's an upper limit on how fast you can charge a battery without turning it into an explosive, those lithium batteries can blow big. I love the acceleration of electric motors obviously but there's not really that many use cases where electric cars are preferable over their gas counterparts... Without even getting into price
You don't realy get the point of this. He drove without charging but that's not the smart thing about it. The real smart part is, that he can use a weak gaspowerd generator to drive a high performance car. He get's all benefits of the electric car and on top the range of an gasoline car. This was an extrem test. On a real trip he could just charge it normaly from time to time
@@hackfleischking5162 He didn't want to stop to charge but damn - how many times did he have to pull over to get gas or wait hours for the battery to charge up.
Absolutely love this video. I've always had a love hate relationship with Tesla and mods like this I believe is amazing and healthy for the entire car community. Keep up the good content. This is my first video I've seen from your channel but I'm subscribed to see more!
This would be awesome as an option when you can’t find a charger or just leaving it on while driving! But using this in tandem with chargers would be legit
It was awesome to see your car in person and talk to you. I can't wait to see the video for the next trip
That build is pretty sweet. Bring the next version down Vegas on your next trip.
Thank you, that's the one I told you about when I saw you in person last, it was not easy let me tell you. But if my second version works out I will have practically unlimited range.
@@WarpedYT I remember! Can't wait to see the updates!
Awesome video. Makes me love my Chevy Volt all over again!
only Volt gets better MPG
Imagine being this dude's neighbor having to hear that car everyday 😵💫
He literally did this just for the car trip..
dude this is AMAZZZIIINNNGGG what u did to the Tesla. i know it still need to be better but damn, to rig up a pricey Tesla all for the love of building some crazy sht is awesome bro..
You could just stop for charging but less often / for less time, and run your generator the rest of the time. You would still likely stop for bathroom / food / stretch breaks anyway, so there is no point in avoiding it (other than for the cool story). Sick build though.
Enjoyed this one immensely, you never sease to amaze. Keep up the great work.
Hahahahahahaa! *Cease
In the beginning of the video I thought the generator will let you down but wow it is strong and shooting flame while working hard is awesome
That flame was saying HIGHLY INEFFICIENT.
I was wondering how much potential energy from fuel is lost while converting to usable electrical energy
@VRStudio you are spot on that is a clear sign that it was running rich. Which is garbage for efficiency. If this guy wants to get rid of the range anxiety and road trip at proper speeds with an expensive luxury car he should have just bought a Lexus LS 600h and been done with it. V8 plug in hybrid that gets far better mileage than this monstrosity, oh and quiet too.
@@gameseeker6307 He said thermal efficiency is 16%, so your answer is 84%!
@@christophersaint6926 Why such a monster engine in a hybrid?! A 4 or even 3 cylinder makes sense, 6 less so, 8 is insane!
Dude, I love the idea. Car makers really should think about it. Not only range extender. We should be able to leave range extender engine keep running all night long.