How Will Colored Bows Affect the Game? (Discussion) | Fire Emblem Heroes
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- Will Colored Bows change the game? Let’s talk about some pros and cons as to why you would even want to use a colored archer in the first place.
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EDIT: Well its a good thing I put this video out today, because we are indeed getting a Green Archer with Legendary Hero Lyn. At least this time she is an infantry archer.
Keep in mind anything I say here can change when an actual colored archer gets added to the game. I do think one will appear sooner rather than later and I’ll be interested to see how they stack up with some of our other powerhouse colorless archers.
I honestly don't think that colored bows will be more powerful than colorless bows. Being affected by the weapon triangle is such a huge thing that it can really hinder more times than it can help.
Which is why I believe changing some of the colourless bows into coloured ones so that they don't feel useless.
This will also allow mages to not feel absolutely defensless against bows since they can get colour advantage (hence why I think raventomes don't need a buff since they'll still be able to hit 2 colours)
Breaker skills although should be revamped to "breaking" colour that weapon as adding specific coloured bow Breakers will make them them too convoluted (eg. Ruby Breaker that affects Swords and Red bows & Red Magic Breaker that affect Red Tomes and Red Dragons).
These are just my two cents though
Oh and nice video again. Very informative and insightful as usual
Guys I agree with you guys day about it helping Mages Vs. Archers and Archer Emblem. To the same time IS is doing this to help destabilize the Meta. For example most answers to Archers are Raven Tome users. I personally but Raven Tome on most or my green mages.
IS made Staff units more Viable and now can really hider a team with the right set up. For bows its all about the High investment Brave set up.
I wonder if IS will introduce dictated Colored Bow users or if Colorless Bow users and use any color. If we get individual Bow Colors summoning will be a pain. If colorless can use any colored bow that would be to broken. I think they my do the individual colored unit thing.
Either way Kudos to IS for changing up the game and consistently adding more stuff. Their making everything broken in their own way, but adjusting as we go.
Its bow Lyn, can't wait for the vid on her..
I'm torn on this. While I like the idea of being able to give any color any weapon similar to dragons, I feel like this takes away from what made or makes the colorless pool special. In my opinion, Bows carried the colorless pull in being the best units you could get from it. So being able to pull them elsewhere sorta gives me even less reason to summon on colorless.
That's an interesting thought. However, it will be an extremely long time to get a good amount of colored archers into the game and who knows how long it will be before we even just have 1 of each color.
While true, Nanna shows promise for the future of staves, and Sothe and New Years Takumi show promise for the future of daggers, so this won't be all that bad for the colorless pool.
KaytchJam I have a feeling that after IS turns every weapon from the colorless pool (bows, daggers, staffs), they are gonna turn the weapons (swords, lances, axes) into colorless just like colorless breaths. And IS is just crazy enough to do it.
Coloured daggers are also hinted at with the description for assasins bow and dagger breaker says it only effects colourless daggers.it is really interesting that IS decides to do this.
I do hope that raven tomes and Naglfar will get a refinement
Yeah same. I never understood why they didn't. And its looking more and more like they could use them too. Honestly, I just want to upgrade the male Robin I summoned on like day one, as he's become pretty obsolete for quite some time, but as the first five star I ever pulled he's still kinda special to me. I mean, he has 43 attack with a boon, that's just depressing.
TheHaloHedgehog I used M!Robin a lot in the early days. He was my second upgrade. And still, I really like Lyon.
But they need some boost if they can't be a catch all counter against ranged threats
the people who use Raven tomes are gonna suffer especially if the raven tome unit is one their mains. It's a good thing That I use Dragons to bait out any archer.
francisjoseph bonila Yeah, feels bad that Ive spent my entire time playing this game investing into trying to get a +10 M!Robin
Maybe they will give a refinement to the Raven tomes which gives them advantage when facing all bows, who knows
Chris N. Fates has a really janky weapon triangle. Bows shouldn't be colored, and Fates was kind of proof of that.
Chris N. Eh, there's no real use in trying to say they shouldn't be in heroes considering they just revealed a Legendary Green Bow user. I'll never quite understand why they feel it's necessary, but I have no control over these things anyway.
Chris N. Let's hope so indeed. It would be kind of neat if I could change my Bow Roys color.
If they turn colorless archers to colored archers, and my Bridelia turns red, I'm gonna quit
ShadowyoshiThe2nd that's why they never directly buff or nerf characters.
They just add counters or better skills.
Bingogogo721 I'm well aware. But, well, you could say it's a primal fear of mine haha
ShadowyoshiThe2nd true
if it does (at a 0.01% chance) happen the meta's dead as we know it. I think it's like gambling or something in Japan if they directly buff someone/nerf someone though, which is why they don't nuke Reinhardt directly and just add a bajillion counters.
Same, i have a +atk bridelia she's just perfect..
Bingogogo721 yes I heard there's Japanese legislation so they can't directly balance gacha games but they can give bad units weapon refineries etc.
edit: to clarify: I mean they can't directly change characters' existing properties and stats, but they get around it by adding new things, iirc
I think we’re supposed to see it like this, colored bows will be as to colored tomes as colored swords/axes/lances are to colored dragonstones. Colored bows will basically be like colored tome units that attack from two spaces, but just the physcial variant that targets Def instead of Res, similar to dragonstone users that target Res instead of Def in relation to your typical Sword/Axe/Lance unit.
I'm surprised Hinoka wasn't colored. It honestly feels like her and Exalted Chrom were supposed to be Legendary units.
That being said I fully welcome physical mages.
Balblair M. M. Yup well said. With so many Res Tanks, we need physical ranged units with colors
I though the same thing, plus they both look and are amazing units. Exalt Knight Chrom pitty broke me while trying to get Reinhardt. I was not made at all because both are great Red Cavs that are strong in both phases. He is -Spd :/ and +Res :]
Still use him with a speed seal +3. I hope He appears on a Legendary or Hero Fest Banner for better IVs. He is really crippled by -Spd. -_--
Omg. Thank you Sacred. This is exactly what I had to sum up to IS in a 1,000 word feedback. I even told them to balance it out more, give us colorless melee units, aka beasts/laguz.
Oooh red/blue/green bowbreaker would be interesting.
OG Hector: I'm ready
really interesting video discusion Im thinking next legendary banner its sure 3 archer well last month mention colorless dragon its nothing strange now multicolor archer well new change enter more heroes well its posibility
I hope your right about any bows being able to be inherited by any bow unit. I'd like to see new inheritable bows being added so we can have some other choices than the usual prf/brave/firesweep bows.
Daggers are getting colors too. The Assassin bows text now reads "when fighting a colorless dagger unit"
I’m honestly thinking the next legendary hero will be a green bow Takumi, with all the Fates stuff going on and the fact that bows in Fates were actually green in the weapon triangle. I could honestly see him getting something akin to Flame Siegmund, in that he’ll just get a different version of Fujin Yumi. Plus it’d be the most savage thing if they had him in the trailer shoot down Kinshi Knight Hinoka , much like how they had F! Grima take out BK Chrom.
a very creative colorless melee unit could be something like a Master-of-Arms or a Masterknight or GreatKnight that always uses the "best weapon" when fighting but not actually getting advantage, just switching visuals since they are not specialists.
I think this is good, since before this the only thing we were missing is colored 2-range physical damage, and we have all other types of damage.
I hope we come up with a better name for Blue Bows instead of BBow. It will look like people are stuttering or accidently hit the b button twice.
B!Bow, R!Bow, and G!Bow could work. Or simply type out the whole two words so people don't get it confused with a seasonal/special hero.
Pssh, that would make too much sense! /s
What I really want to know is how the ! started. I've been using it for alts of characters like PA!Olivia, H!Jakob, etc. How did that get started?
Not too sure about that, but I think it's been used to acronymize for a long time. An example for this other than FEH was also used for AU'd Undertale characters, like UF!Sans, and all the other 5 million Sans that the fangirls created. Can't really think of any other source other than that and FEH.
If previous bow units were assigned a colour once the update came out, we could spend feathers/ badges to change them into their coloured variant so it'd be a choice rather than something forced. That would be a fun move. But as for coloured archers themselves... there aren't really THAT many they can add (I see a slew of alts in the horizon).
A few notable bows units are Anna, Norne, Jamke, Python, Wolt, Will, Louise, Neimi, Rolf, Shinon, Astrid, Leonardo, Noire and Kiragi. Now out of that, not many are big fan favourites and even if they were all added it's still a small number.
I do wonder how this will work. Though the point at 0:40 I have to think at least SOME of the current archers will be changed to red/blue/green. Maybe not all of them but just some of them.
3:42 I'm sure they will rework that description. It only makes sense to do that.
4:57 I always did wonder why it's restricted to any classes at all.
In Gacha games, the dev team cannot directly nerf/buff units because it would alter what people may have throwed Real Money at.
They can later introduce counters and refinements though
Since our next legendary hero is most likely green id say they may go for a green bow legendary Alm considering his promotion lets him use bows now one thing im wondering is if they will use promoted Alm or conqueror Alm if thats the case other than that i have no idea what other units could become the next legendary hero unless they decide to put in normal veronica or a new green heroes unit for whatever reason
Yeah, I agree. Will be just a "copy and paste" from breaths.
But colored bow's impact will be a thing that we need to wait to use, since I don't know that if will be good or not since coloress units are the best offensive units but the best tanks as well.
And a point is, with colored bows we have 4 weapons in each color (I will count coloress as a color for this). Which means all colors are equal in terms of number of weapons and meaning that they can add Beast units in all colors much like Breaths and Bows.
Since my point before was: If beast units being added in the game as just coloress, coloress would have 4 againts 3 weapons comparing with the RGB colors.
Or if they turned to be in the RGB colors, will be opposite.
Now will be possible to have beast units in all colors for 5 weapon types in each color.
Atrie Prower I said this a while back before coloured bows added.
'We now have 4 colourless weapons, so we're definitely getting a fourth coloured weapon soon.'
didn't see bows coming though
I see colorless melee in the future as beast units though
I think the colored archers are placeholders for 2 range melee units, like javelins
The speculation that new colored bows will be added instead of all current Bow users being reworked into colored units sounds reasonable to me.
A possible different route that you didn’t mention is old bow units getting the choice of a colorless or colored weapon through the Weapon Refinery. This is less likely because the devs would have to put in the time to decide which units get what color, but it would be interesting to see a bow unit with a weapon that leaves the user colorless or with one color.
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I think colored archers will be a good addition. For example, right now it is really hard to find a bow reinhardt counter, because even high res archers need deflect magic or various buffs to tank him reliably. A green archer with decent res wont have a problem with that. Or you can use a colored archer to kill armored units with triangle advantage, since even the strongest archers struggle a little with dealing damage to tanky armor units. Just a few examples, but colored archers will be a good way to counter certain things you might struggle with
Der Kuchenmacher red archer for myrrh without Iote’s hahahahah
I dont see how that helps. With current best colorless archers, bridelia and B!lyn make quick work of both of them.
Kenneth Anderson yup especially those distant def 50 + def armor units on a defense tile
Der Kuchenmacher obviously, you just don't use archers for that, then again, quadelia can take down hector with luna. Don't expect archers to take down all armors, because that's just dumb.
Kenneth Anderson im not saying all archers should take down all armors. But if some people need colored archers to take them down, then they will be quite a nice addition to their team.
I believe that they’re coming only because they want to balance the types of units that can be summoned.
They could be making room for colorless beasts and lagus, a physical version of dragons.
Green Bow Alm pls
but yeah I think coloured bow breakers will come because a green unit shouldn't be able to break red bows.
I've always had the idea that they would release an item like "Red/Blue/Green Dew" or something and allow each player to decide for themselves what color to make their personal archer for what units they want to better counter, or if not they can leave their archers colorless if desired.
So distant counter will technically be even more useful with this, seeing as how most DC units have good physical defense.
I feel like I'm the only one who likes this/interested in this update. Mostly because the bow users I want in the game could finally be unique-ish.
Also, I think that colored bows could also occur by refining a colorless bow user.
Remember when people wanted Veronica in the game? I was thinking, if not a green archer, she'd be the next legendary
Its hard to tell if CYL had any effect on Veronica's role in the story. From seeing her get 2nd place, maybe they are setting her up for her CYL introduction as a "good guy". If the story was already planned way in advance, then it could also be setting her up to be a legendary hero. It would be funny if we got both a Legendary Hero Veronica and a CYL Veronica.
The Sacred Spear OMG, pls no. At least not near the same time. I love Veronica, but I’d go homeless trying to whale and +10 both of them.
It may be cool if we can change the color of bow unit using material like feather, badge or coin or stone. Then we have more potential to mess around.
Hmmm beast units
So they gonna bring Fate triagle weapon bow tome dagger into the game someday?
If colored archers won't bw able to use cancel affinity, does that mean innes is guarranteed to be colorless? If so, i am happy.
I know it won't happen but it could be cool if you could refine bows into another color.
oh, my... it's a big topic..... Considering bows are a weapon type..... We will also get something like a red horse archer.... or blue fly archer.... archers that works in emblem teams would moderate their color disadvantages while getting huge boost in offense.
7:10 *Looks at Fjorm* *Looks at L!Ephraim* Nah, I'm just imagining it.
Changing the color of the already existing archers will cause a riot, mainly because they restrict the versatility of a product that was obtained via RNG (especially when it comes to 5* exclusives and seasonals), which can become grounds for intervention by laws.
I think colored bows might be niche depending on the tier because high def DC units exist (Xander, Camus, Hector, Dorcas, Hardin, etc.) who usually have a lower Res stat, meaning they can be oneshot if you use magic instead.
Bows also serve as mage checks (rather than a counter), ignoring Raven Tomes, meaning that they need to be able to deal with low def mages pretty swiftly before the mages wreak havoc. A colorless archer allows the player to have a versatile mage check that can deal with different types of mages with its range (since a lot of mages stay at the back, meaning that you need some reach). And Raven tomes in arena have been kinda scarce recently, imo.
I'm not really excited for colored archers, tbh, but I'm not gonna complain if they manage to release a good unit.
If it’s a green archer, I feel like it would be either Febail or Brigid. They’re from Thracia and they have a Holy Weapon.
I remember my friend explaining to me that the colored bows may be a reference to the magical based bows from Fates. Which after that I thought what if... These magic bows attack the lowest of either def/res towards melee units? While this sounds almost no different to mages, this mechanic would make them an opposite archetype from dragons. I doubt this will be the case at this point because imagine Bride Cordi with a magic brave bow.
I actually do believe that some of the current archers will go from being colorless to being Red, Blue, or Green, but maybe only one or two of each color, and probably not some really significant ones such as Brave Lyn, Virion, or Klein. Also pretty sure they're leaving all the holiday archers colorless, but all of this is personal speculation. All of the archers sharing the same weapon types like dragonstones is just about guaranteed, though.
Eh, I don't really see why so many people aren't happy with coloured archers becoming a thing soon. Maybe I'm missing something but I don't think I am.
As for the next legendary hero possibly being a green archer, yeah, I'd say that most likely will be the case. The only two characters right now who I could see being that new green archer are either Takumi or Alm. I'm leaning more on Alm since he has yet to get an alt & he does gain access to bows upon promotion. I know it wouldn't make sense because for the past few legendary banners, the legendary hero has some relation to the current banner but hey, it's IS, they can break patterns whenever they feel like it. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
True though I still want Alm
SupremeToadLord if we got an alm alt I'd drop massive money omg
I want selena to be green or red bow she can be a mounted horse bow
I rather beast units added into the game before freaking Coloured archers that will still use Brave Bow builds.
Ryoma
I have an interesting idea...perhaps their colour could changed based on the type of Blessing they have. For example:
Fire - Red
Water - Blue
Wind - Green
Earth - Colourless
I mean, this COULD work, but honestly I don't really think they'll go this route.
This would be cool, nice idea.
What happens with flyer teams? Are colored Bows just good against any flying unit?
The effectiveness against fliers is on every bow weapon, it wouldn’t matter what color they are.
I feel like raven tomes will be effective against colorless units and all colored bows. They will be effective against all types of bows like falchion is effective against all colors of dragons. Just that there is a small reduction to the bonus damage they have a Triangle advantage
I think the next legendary will be alm and I think he will be a red archer with the double lion skill as either his special or weapon
Lara Vijverberg It’s probably going to be a Fates character, most likely to be Corrin, due to patterns from previous banners.
They can't change colorless archers to color archer....if my setsuna for example has sworbreaker, how is she gonna become green?
LE REDDIT COMMANDER Im a F2P,they won't get my money
I think the mages will get screwed hard by this.
It's great that archers can become more useful with other things than a brave bow.
Imagine a high res Archer like innes with a blue color and decent speed and say bowbreaker b skill. He would be a mage check, Archer check, flier check and sword check.
A true jack of all trades but master of none
Having colored bows ruins the exclusiveness of colorless weapons. Legendary staffs don’t even exist yet (Loki isn’t available as a unit, but she’s just one unit) and dagger units are still underwhelming. I hope they introduce new Bow users and not change current Bow users color. I’m hoping for Alm to wield a bow as he can use one in SOV.
Rip flyer
They'll probably won't release many colored archers. Imo it is kinda dumb to ad color to units who've always been neutral (except on fates). One way to balance it out would be to make them immune to bowbreaker while also not having a "RGB bow breaker"
Colorless Mages when?
L!Marth??? *Crickets chirp in the background* Still waiting for the OG Lord to get an alt!
I think Mikoto might be the legendary hero. Just a guess based off this archer thing and how we got more fate characters. Either Mikoto or Corrin cuz we got both Kanas so if we go off what happened when Morgan came along, it is only reasonable Corrin might be our next Legendary hero. Just a guess
Except does Corrin even get access to bows? At the moment, a green bow unit is most likely coming, since Legendary Robin came after we got the colorless dragon breath icon added, so a colored bow unit must be coming soon. Also, given that every color but green is returning on the next legendary banner, a green bow unit would be the perfect legendary unit to bring to introduce colored bows. Going by the last few legendary heroes we got, since our current banner is a Fates/Birthright banner, the next legendary hero is probably gonna be related to Birthright. Best options are:
Takumi, since he's a bow unit by default
Ryoma, if he's a kinshi knight (which I think is the least likely since we just got Hinoka as a kinshi knight)
Sakura, since she uses bows upon promotion
Mikoto, since she uses bows (though I have doubts they'd choose her over one of the siblings)
I think it'd be one of the siblings, as I would rather see Corrin get his Yato refine that everyone wants him to get over him getting outclassed by a better version before he even gets his refine. Out of all the siblings, Ryoma still has yet to get an alternate version, but according to the games, he can only use bows if he gets re-classed as a flier, to which then be promoted to a kinshi knight, and since Hinoka just came out, I doubt they would release two bow fliers back to back like that, but given that he's the only sibling without an alternate, I would really like Ryoma to finally get his turn. I just don't think it'd be the legendary banner if they follow game continuity in terms of classes.
vgmaster02 Wow, you really went in on this 😂. That does make sense tho.
My rationale for Corrin was mainly based off the fact we got both Kana's in game now. When both Morgan's got in, we ended up with there parent, Robin, as the legendary(tho, technically, only Male Morgan is Fem Robin's child and its fitting how his weapon was "Grima's Truth" since his mum was Grima version of fem Robin.) So it seems possible if the next Legendary isnt a bow unit. Cuz like you said, Corrin has never been seen with a bow(atleast I haven't seen it) but hey, they could surprise us lol. Remember Mage Eirika lol.
Why i said Mikoto, is cuz she uses bows and the fact that we might get a colored archer for our next L. Hero like how Grima Fem Robin was our colorless dragon right after they updated them in. Not only that, going off the whole Kana thing. She is related to them thru Corrin, since she is his/her mother and in turn, would be Kana's grandma. But like you said, it'd be weird that they'd put her in over Corrin cuz Mikoto isnt exactly popular. But yea, that was my rationale for it. I would like to see Mikoto tho.
Never thought of Ryoma being a possibilty but it would be great to finally get an alt for him. He's the only sibling left out atm 😢
I mean...I guess I could see having a colorless bow flier and a colored bow flier, especially a green bow flier, since New Year Azura has that green spot firmly in her grip, and there's only Spring Kagero and Bow Hinoka for colorless fliers (though my Spring Kagero with Heavy Blade and Growing Wind is an AOE monster x3). As much as I really want to see Ryoma, I feel like it's probably gonna be Sakura, since her promoted class is Priestess, which is the same as Mikoto's class (so it would be a nice reference to Mikoto through Sakura), and she can use bows in that class.
I still want Corrin to get his Yato refine and Azura to get her Blessed Lance.
vgmaster02 Yo, if it's Sakura, I will whale so hard quq. See, I didn't want to bring her up, despite her being my fav character xD but, cuz she already has an alt and we all know how much some people cry about the Fates/Awakening thing being over represented. Not to say they aren't but i dunno why ppl gotta knock the characters. We'll eventually get alts and more characters from the other games. But I digress xD. Yes, I would LOVE for a legendary Sakura cuz I lost my dream for a Brave Sakura this year ='). Only problem is, I doubt she will be the legendary cuz 1) she's not that popular I think to warrant a Legendary. I see Elise getting one before Sakura despite me not liking Elise at all. =w=. 2) ...I forgot what i was gonna say here xD. But yea. Thanks for making me gush over this 😂 haha. Jk.
Yo, I agree. Roy finally got his refine so lets make this happem IS.
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since colored archers are now a thing,
am i the only one who thinks that instead of colored archers we should have gotten colorless mages in the sense of adding light and dark magic to be weak and strong versus anima (RGB) mages and therefore fix the magic triangle ?
even so, i have no idea how the new archers will affect the game but while they're at it, grey light/dark mages anyone ??
I wanted to say that the color on an archer would be a refinement for most archer weapons only because the game would be lacking a lot of those archers, but who knows what will happen
Kurokinari so basically we paint Halloween Jakob into any color we want, thats good hahahahahah
I don't want them to change my Niles color, colorless is good because it can tank any type of magic
i would rather have more offensive healers than this
Javier Gomez while coloured bows (if implemented differently) can certainly change the meta of bows, I also think it's about time staves become true colourless mages.
Healers with offensive specials please 😶
Healers with better support skills
The Real Cannon Hopefully something like Fortify, Warp, Sleep, Berserk, etc. gets added.
Dbap im all for such staff modifications to make healer use more than just healing
I still think colored bows are going to be javelins and tomahawks since we haven't seen them in game yet.
then we need colorless physical melee
Michalis will most likely become an endangered species because of colored bows.
I'm SHOOK idk if I like this
Quad bows are overrated, high atk is required to run brave weapons successfully and that's only possible by Bridelia and B!Lyn. Summer Gaius and Setsuna have amazing speed but their atk is too low to even consider a brave bow anymore, most tanks can run guard or have distant counter and QR in arena so they aren't relevant threats anymore. On the other hand, armored high atk archers, I wouldn't consider Jakob high atk but he is pretty good, can make use of bold fighter so they are easily gonna be the best use of brave bow.
Color archers is going to mess up the game is already hard enough in the arena with brave Lyn now we have to worry about the color ones just great xd.
I think archers are fine. They should be working on beast races instead of this.
Peter Yeah. And if they really want new ranged units put in Javelins and handaxes...
Javelins and Handaxes would be cool, I hope they end up not being a prf and end up being inheritable. I can see it being only at Range = 2, like bows.
They are just going to change the Bowbreaker to encompasses all the colors. Easy fix. Colour archers honestly shouldn't be a thing but if they are doing what they did with the horrendous weapon triangle in Fates, coloured Daggers are going to be the next thing. Cause let be honest, daggers are still weak to their bow counter parts.
i don't think that's whats going to happen. Doing that will allow red units to have bowbreaker for blue archers, which isn't following the logic already established in game.
And on top of what A haddad said, if they were to make a normal bowbreaker skill to encompass all of the bow spectrums, why wouldn’t they do that with the tome breaker skills? It makes no sense to have one skill to counter all weapon versions, but separate skills to counter each tome color individually.
I don't think it makes much sense.
Swords are shorter than spears -> spears have an advantage over them
Spears are [generic excuse] than axes -> axes have an advantage over spears
Bows are just mechanically the same - I see no reason for a bow to be operated differently in a way which would make a sword or a blue-tome easier/harder to hit.
(it arguably made sense with dragons - they are different entities and can fight differently just as humans use different martial arts).
wat I feel is the true reason for the colored bows is to allow them to introduce more charas tat can use bows without oversaturating the colorless pool tats shared between 4 weapon types (staff/bow/dagger/dragon)... by oversaturating every other pool instead... when colored staves come out in the future, we can get charas like archsage athos (FE7) as a blue stave and dark druid nergal (FE7) as a red stave...
colored archers also seem more like a band-aid solution to how they are going to introduce dual weapon users aka promoted versions of charas into the game... for example Rath (FE7) promotes into a class who wields bows and swords... this means highest chances are he'll be a red archer in the future... then there's dorcas' (FE7) warrior promote tat uses axes and bows thus green archers... I don't know any of the promoted classes and wat weapon combinations they can have outside of FE7 so hopefully someone can help fill the blanks there...
finally in order to get over the issues you proposed, honestly i bet they're just going to have powercreep stats/skills and release less colorless archers from now on...
With the release of the upcoming legendary banner I stand corrected... Mi expectation of them releasing the promoted classes was correct but the color was not... This means they can release units anyhow they like... Unless this is the return of the raven situation where the sword user is green instead of red...
Inb4 coloured bows are as exclusive as armored mages and ranged fliers atm...
They can’t change once colorless archers into a colored archer; violates Japanese gambling laws.
It’s why they can’t alter stats of a “problem unit” like Reinhardt. they can only add counters to them.
Seeing as how I use a full colorless team to screw the weapon triangle, being forced into a color would annoy me, perhaps enough to leave the game. It should be an option to change, but not mandatory.
MrSleepyhead32
Well, it can’t be mandatory for existing units.
Colored archers will spell death for raventome users
I think that color bow would be ultra rare. Like Grima Robin could be reserved only for legendary unit.
If they make older archers coloured, I hope they make it optional whether they're colourless or not.
Like, if I wanted to keep my Klein colourless instead of switching to Blue, I could do so, and could switch if I wanted to, and would get locked out of green breakers until I switched back to colourless.
who cares about colored bows, i’m just waiting for colorless swords
WHAT IF there will be no new colored bow users released, but instead, a new feature that allows you to change your archer's color? Maybe by using badges, SP, and arena medals?
I still think that having full colored bows is a bit of overkill. Had there been ONLY green bows as a reference to FE Fates weapon triangle where they are part of it but still have their limits, i think that would have been a better choice.
The Green Pool is severly limited and only relevant because of power creep like Grima, so green bows could have made things better for that pool without the Red or Blue ones.
Shinon or IntSys is a coward.
This is pretty much my theory what will happen:
Raventomes did not get a refinement yet, even though they could really need one as they are pretty weak compared to other tomes. This is because IS waited till they introduce Colored Bows, and the Refinement will give the user Triangle advantage against all Ranged Melee Units (I bet colored Dagger Users will be next). Y'all owe me a Cookie if im right ;)
Ugh, I don't like this at all.
Im not a fan of this change. Raventome units struggle as is in their niche with most having low attack and cancel affinity fucking them over. Now with colored archers things got even worse for them. It’s pretty much all of what the low attack high def mages have because their attack is too poor to do anything else.
That and colorless nuking with brave bow is just too strong. Colorless bows having neutral damage against everything is better than being colored when it comes to nuking as you won’t get slotted in disadvantageous situations.
Oh and this change should have happened with daggers instead. Daggers struggle to stay relevant in this game, with bow units being able to nuke better while healers can get free hits to debuff and heal. With the ability to exploit the weapon triangle to their advantage they could have something over the other two classes but nope, they give it to bows instead.
The idea sounds cool...... but I just can’t get behind it
I still don't think that the new Legendary unit will be a Green Archer. The only notable archer in the entire franchise is Betrayal Boy; when the need for a Colorless Legendary unit was upon them, instead of trying to use an existing Colorless weapon type (since archers, thieves, and clerics/monks tend to be more supporting-role-type characters), THEY OPTED TO INVENT A NEW ONE ENTIRELY. Likewise, if IS *did* ever decide to exhaust their one notable archer for the Legendary summoning pool, then you *know* that they are DEMONSTRABLY desperate to fill in those colorless slots, anyway!
In short, I still think it's going to be the Infantry Wind Mage, Ced.
TazTheYellow bow lyn :p
I may be wrong but I believe that the colored archers are going to remain a non-playable thing. They'll likely be added to campaign missions, but I just can't see them starting to slap colors onto new archers.
Coloured Bows? It's African American Bows TYVM.