@@jokerman2189 its mostly about the golden towers some people may not have medic but the edj and commander example was mostly to show the boosts the tower would get not that it applies to it in rankings
something i figured out, gold mine layer with edj and commander support can be placed in rows, and have very short lay time so with buffs its stupid op
Top path golden mine layer kinda need a buff because his ability is good but his mines that he place on path are just pretty mid I will compare it with normal mine layer top Golden Mine Layer top path: - 340 dmg mine - reload time 7s - mine lifespan 105s - max 15 mines on map - 5,100 dmg (all mines) - cost $33,375 With 7s reload and 105s lifespan, he only can have 15 mines on a map. Normal Mine Layer top path: - 265 dmg mine - 6s reload - 130s mine lifespan - max 21 mines on map - 5,565 dmg (all mines) - cost $16,375 Honestly, pretty much 2x more cost, top Golden Mine Layer should be much better. I mean, that tower costs 69k and the only difference is an ability that does 1.2k dmg, like not even fire dmg on mines. It looks like bottom path got everything cool, and top just crossbows. Also, bottom Mine Layer does: - Total 14,720 dmg + 19,200 fire 33,920 dmg total - 32 mines - 560s lifespan - 17s reload - 460 dmg mine - explosion penetration - 40dps fire for 15s (600 dmg) - cost $24,775
Golden jugg is probably like bottom of the S class, slightly disagree with the A rating. It is meant to be late game tower and it does the job well in any mode really, or if you wanna place it mid game you can get the top path upgrades which is actually pretty good for the cost. Or spam 2-4 for good dps against armoured and no resist enemy’s
Dude your only going to get one maybe 2 golden Jug in expert and 1 or none in elite and maybe 1 in intermediate mode. The golden jug is only meant for endless just like warship.
@@Siberian_Huskey that is if you wanna max it out, spamming 2-4 with buff is debatably as good as 2-5 regular jugg. Because of the laser pierce it works in all modes but nightmare or endless
@@Siberian_HuskeyDo you even have g jug cause you can DEFINITELY place more than 2, i don't know the exact number but i can confirm more than 6+ max bottom path on expert. What are you on about.
Imagine if it gave, ONE gold bar (the LOBBY currency btw, not match) at max level (top path) for each farm placed down per wave (heck, maybe even affect OTHER people, 4 players, 8 farms per player, so 4×8 = 32, you get a whole 32 BARS PER WAVE, if you (somehow) got that on wave 1 on endless until wave 200, 32×200= 6.400 gold bars per match, now i realized, it is good, but isnt op (i think)
bottom path crossbow mine layer needs a buff, maybe make it so you can automate it, so it just keeps shooting a mine somewhere, cause yeah no one ever uses it.
ok so grangers granade being able to ignore stun immunity, having a cooldown of 7 seconds and stun time of 1 seconds means having just 7 of them could stunlock even the calamity
still better for endless then gold jug, and gold jug is not that good in expert, plus turret costs like 1/3 the gold price. alot less grinding to get turret
@Visqq_ I personally do not see how slammer is better. The only thing it does better is stun and splash. Aside from that, g ranger is better in every factor.
2:19 NO WAY, IT'S *me*. In all seriousness, I still believe that towers like the GML always get nerfed because the balancers can never get it right the first time.
G rizzlayer sucks at early to mid, and so does G jugg, but unlike g rizzlayer, G jugg can carry you through high hp waves while g rizzlayer is reliant on hordes to maximize its limited damage. G jugg is overall better for grinding.
@@laisksjjsjs566 They do, but to a certain degree as it'd be to op. Edj, Commander, And medic work together. Max dps of golden jugg is roughly: 7200dps from what i remember.
@Sgtlake thank you for just proving my point, lol. That is the dps it gets with medic and edj, not commander included. If it stacked, it would have 9360 dps.
Your point was "they don't stack", and as i mentioned they do. Medic + edj allow's for a stack in dps. Sure it doesn't get the highest amount due to balancing reason's, but it still's stack's. Not stacking is when medic and edj, or just any support can't work in unison due to one or another interfering with the other. But because medic and edj can stack, my point is thus valid, your's on the other hand being BS
@Sgtlake that's not even stacking, though. That is just God boosting or overclocking. Stacking is just when you use 2 of the exact same thing. They stack, and it is quite literally in the name. Your point would've been right if there was one tower that buffs damage and only one tower that buffs in the whole game with no other options, but that simply isn't true right now. I can give you 2 examples: 1x2x3+4, you aren't going to say that the answer is 1×2 plus 4, you are going to add all of them in order because of Bedmas and just their existence. Let's say you are playing btd 6, when you use overclock on a tower that is buffed by village, you are just buffing it more, nothing is stacking, but when you buy an ultraboost and use the ability many times, it stacks. Let's say that these somehow don't apply and your non-existent points do. You still mentioned commander nohn medics and kritz in your comment. Unless you really can't comprehend anything, you should easily understand that I am talking about the 3 damage buff tower and not the one firerate. In another situation, your point would only be accurate if you only mentioned medic and edj. Right now, you did that which you shouldn't have cause I never even cared about that. There is a huge difference between arguing about something that the person is talking about or arguing on some other stuff. Anyone can have a chance at those kinds of stuff. Now, if it is not apparent to you, I am talking about the DAMAGE BUFFS stacking.
Since i only ever do endless. i say golden mine layer is a tier. although good, it dies quickly. if you dont pair it with medic then honestly i would rate it as b. i can see this tower wasting alot of the players income because if they do die you have to replace and replacing matters cause the mines de spawn. in summary your wasting money on a tower that previously did the same amount of dps
G mine layer is mid cuz if you gonna spam charged throw you need a hella good micro to make g mine layer's damage consistent since most ppl wont do that g mine layer is just mid so grind for g jugg warship or xwm
G mine is mid to end G ranger is early to mid but can be end (but if you have better towers than G ranger it will either become a supoort) G juggernaut is the ultimate end game tower (idc if your opinion is WS since you need BIG water)
Warship carries hordes, G jugg just kills the bosses way better and helps with lowering the enemy HP to help Warship kill the hordes. Both are just as good, just that G jugg is more reliable for a ton of better dps.
what I hated about john showcasing G mine layer, was that he said it's 6500 DPS. But it's not dps, it's dmg. if it's 18 seconds, It would actually be 368 dps not including splash.
Xwm is not worth getting over golden juggernaut right now. Xwm turret has fallen off a lot recently and golden juggernaut has gotten a lot better. Xwm just has too many flaws like placement limit and capped dps. Its way too niche and not cost efficient. Its better to just skip xwm turret.
it doesnt die when a boss uses an insta-kill, it has big fat range, MK-1c insta-kill sweep abillity doesn't waste like 7k+ worth of dps, and is more cheaper than gjugg + you won't waste hundreds of thousands from a funny instakill splash that bosses use
Xwm turret is definitely better early game endless but lategame gjugg far surpasses it. Also the rebuild is only useful in 2 of the 7 gamemodes. Which makes it niche as well as its too expensive in most of them @Animator_guyidk
@KrakenAwakened yeah this isnt even true, gjugg shreds expert, good in nightmare usable in normal intermediate and elite (normal jugg is better in elite tho) but in no way is it only good in endless
G jugg is bottom S tier, XWM falls off dps wise as harder bosses kill its dps, compared to G jugg (endless mode scenario) mainly because you have a placement limit for it, basically deleting its full potential and keeping it just a alternative to g jugg top path. XWM is only good for doing what G jugg lacks, nothing more. XWM is still top A though.
@OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOF i feel like xwm isnt even A. Considering how niche it is. I mean its only useable in 2 of 7 gamemodes and nightmare is temporary. Its just so niche and endless isnt that meta of a grind. Xwm should be one of the last towers you buy because before level 100 you shouldnt grind endless. And pretty much everything does better in expert. Its like middle of B tier because of how niche it is. If endless was the true meta grind then xwm would be much higher. So not that xwm is necessarily bad this is just not xwms meta
i think g ranger needs pierce, everything is great but hes useless in endless and tower battles event, and i think he should get ignore laser resist on 4 or even 3 upgrade top path, no one really use g ranger because there better options
Actually what he said in the vid is very true golden juggernaut is very expensive and is outclassed by golden ranger in the normal game modes as for endless golden juggernaut is very convenient to have but for solo endless xwm can prove to be more useful plus golden juggernaut dies very easily on most of the waves containing mk 1 combat and apex predator but xwm doesn’t die as easily and max level golden juggernaut can only be bought in endless or on the final 3 waves of expert. (I have golden juggernaut my self)
You do realise that people who carry G jugg usually already know how to use it right? Just because some players with no brains use them, doesn't mean the pros have no skill. I am only level 110 but the amount of strategizing for it to actually work is insane, especially without powerups as you need to maximize its dps as fast as possible or else it will fall off and reward you with absolutely zero dps. I have memorized basically every major G jugg counter wave in endless so I bring supports instead of relying on G jugg. Not every G jugg user only uses G jugg, only the meta kids.
first time making a video like this. hope you like it!
Did you mention that medics with golden jug? Removes the whole “it doesn’t have 4 lives thing”
@@jokerman2189 its mostly about the golden towers some people may not have medic but the edj and commander example was mostly to show the boosts the tower would get not that it applies to it in rankings
@@LeanBeefCakes Noice.
It would have been so much funnier if you put them all in S Tier. But that's just me
Question is it possibly to play with u for endless?
something i figured out, gold mine layer with edj and commander support can be placed in rows, and have very short lay time so with buffs its stupid op
On skibidi?
@@The_Basic_Bee on rizzler
on slibdi fr fr no cap@@The_Basic_Bee
Baiting people to grind and give him more MONEY
@@The_Basic_Beethe translation wait otherwise: "have a skate?*
This guy’s editing style is like the perfect combination of propellars and CORSO, nice vid btw!
btw with all buff's , excluding medic , the g jugg bottom path has a base dps of 2.2k and 4k with abilities used
witth medic, it reaches 7k dps (or higher, I last tested it when damage buffs stacked weirdly)
Top path golden mine layer kinda need a buff because his ability is good but his mines that he place on path are just pretty mid I will compare it with normal mine layer top
Golden Mine Layer top path:
- 340 dmg mine
- reload time 7s
- mine lifespan 105s
- max 15 mines on map
- 5,100 dmg (all mines)
- cost $33,375
With 7s reload and 105s lifespan, he only can have 15 mines on a map.
Normal Mine Layer top path:
- 265 dmg mine
- 6s reload
- 130s mine lifespan
- max 21 mines on map
- 5,565 dmg (all mines)
- cost $16,375
Honestly, pretty much 2x more cost, top Golden Mine Layer should be much better. I mean, that tower costs 69k and the only difference is an ability that does 1.2k dmg, like not even fire dmg on mines. It looks like bottom path got everything cool, and top just crossbows.
Also, bottom Mine Layer does:
- Total 14,720 dmg + 19,200 fire
33,920 dmg total
- 32 mines
- 560s lifespan
- 17s reload
- 460 dmg mine
- explosion penetration
- 40dps fire for 15s (600 dmg)
- cost $24,775
top path golden mine layer is already good
3 mines per shot John said…
Keep up the work my guy 💪
Wow, thank you!
I'm glad, that I still (maybe) should save for g ranger
Golden jugg is probably like bottom of the S class, slightly disagree with the A rating. It is meant to be late game tower and it does the job well in any mode really, or if you wanna place it mid game you can get the top path upgrades which is actually pretty good for the cost. Or spam 2-4 for good dps against armoured and no resist enemy’s
Dude your only going to get one maybe 2 golden Jug in expert and 1 or none in elite and maybe 1 in intermediate mode. The golden jug is only meant for endless just like warship.
@@Siberian_Huskey that is if you wanna max it out, spamming 2-4 with buff is debatably as good as 2-5 regular jugg. Because of the laser pierce it works in all modes but nightmare or endless
@@Siberian_HuskeyDo you even have g jug cause you can DEFINITELY place more than 2, i don't know the exact number but i can confirm more than 6+ max bottom path on expert. What are you on about.
@@Siberian_Huskey clearly you have not heard of the 4-2 gjugg supremacy
Skinidi rizz 2-4 regular juggernaut is just cook everyone@@TheLethal
just as a question what do you use to edit your vids?
I think john should add gold farm next.😏🤫🗿
What are the plants ? The plants is gold bar 🤑🤑🤑 ?!?!
Tree grows money 🤑🤑🤑🤑 @@lieling6404
Imagine if it gave, ONE gold bar (the LOBBY currency btw, not match) at max level (top path) for each farm placed down per wave (heck, maybe even affect OTHER people, 4 players, 8 farms per player, so 4×8 = 32, you get a whole 32 BARS PER WAVE, if you (somehow) got that on wave 1 on endless until wave 200, 32×200= 6.400 gold bars per match, now i realized, it is good, but isnt op (i think)
@@StudiofNSninja bro really did some math
@@StudiofNSninja it's kinda like plants vs zombies, the sunflower gives you sun and the marigold gives you coins
(the gold farm being the marigold)
How do you give them a clean outline in the thumbnails
Fr tho I wanna learn that 😭
I’m pretty sure your just supposed to draw over the image
Copy + paste + turn white boom done
i have
the regular versions of those golden towers
I just grind for golden tower because they look cool
Golden rangers max dps is like 1.1k w com ability, john and edj. I figured this out in chapter 4
bottom path crossbow mine layer needs a buff, maybe make it so you can automate it, so it just keeps shooting a mine somewhere, cause yeah no one ever uses it.
Dragon Ball music going crazy dude. I love it
ok so grangers granade being able to ignore stun immunity, having a cooldown of 7 seconds and stun time of 1 seconds
means having just 7 of them could stunlock even the calamity
Except all bosses have a stun cooldown of ~4 seconds
Golden mine layer i'd ssy is the second best tower in the gamr rn, only being beaten by warship
In my opinion I would rank gold ranger in S tier and gold minelayer in S tier and gold juggernaut in S tier
Wow reviewing 3 towers PEAK CONTENT
“Your better off getting XWM”
Didn’t XWM turret get nerfed?
still better for endless then gold jug, and gold jug is not that good in expert, plus turret costs like 1/3 the gold price. alot less grinding to get turret
Yeah. Guess XWM could help in the upcoming Halloween event in TDX
your right xvm solos the event
I have a short answer for this: Just equip the three, you have six tower slots for something.
Who uses golden ranger in endless bruh
@@whyyouguysusednormalguyJohn himself did in a stream. You going to bring operator? Didn’t think so.
@whyyouguysusednormalguy you want me to use regular ranger?
@masterziggycat9779 Just because John does it doesn't mean it's viable lol, just use slammer.
@Visqq_ I personally do not see how slammer is better. The only thing it does better is stun and splash. Aside from that, g ranger is better in every factor.
2:19 NO WAY, IT'S *me*. In all seriousness, I still believe that towers like the GML always get nerfed because the balancers can never get it right the first time.
I mean, it makes sense. You never know what a tower is capable of until some god of tower defense games comes in a wrecks any balance it had.
Why am I smearing my blood over my skin while watching a TDX video
Hey so i already have g ranger, which should get next g rizz layer or g jugg
G jugg
Gjug totally, easily a core tower to own
Golden rizz will make you unable to die
get g jugg, get the most expensive so you get it over with
G rizzlayer sucks at early to mid, and so does G jugg, but unlike g rizzlayer, G jugg can carry you through high hp waves while g rizzlayer is reliant on hordes to maximize its limited damage. G jugg is overall better for grinding.
the fnf music worked really well, good job
Its dragon ball music bruh💀
💀@@rayaneouizare6885
@@rayaneouizare6885isnt it dragon ball z kakarots theme Lol
doesn't golden mine layer depend on the map too? like if you're on a short map it wouldn't really be at its full potential
Yes
gj; over priced af gr; best early game tower gm: the boss chesser
eh should i get g jugg first or g mine layer first? i have g ranger and xwm
G jugg xwm got nerfed
@@peterdaniel9818it's still good
Just wait till he see's the dps & range of a golden jugg, 2-5 with a edj, commander, john, and medic's bottom path kritz ability.
They don't stack bud
@@laisksjjsjs566 They do, but to a certain degree as it'd be to op.
Edj, Commander, And medic work together.
Max dps of golden jugg is roughly: 7200dps from what i remember.
@Sgtlake thank you for just proving my point, lol. That is the dps it gets with medic and edj, not commander included. If it stacked, it would have 9360 dps.
Your point was "they don't stack", and as i mentioned they do.
Medic + edj allow's for a stack in dps. Sure it doesn't get the highest amount due to balancing reason's, but it still's stack's.
Not stacking is when medic and edj, or just any support can't work in unison due to one or another interfering with the other.
But because medic and edj can stack, my point is thus valid, your's on the other hand being BS
@Sgtlake that's not even stacking, though. That is just God boosting or overclocking. Stacking is just when you use 2 of the exact same thing. They stack, and it is quite literally in the name. Your point would've been right if there was one tower that buffs damage and only one tower that buffs in the whole game with no other options, but that simply isn't true right now. I can give you 2 examples: 1x2x3+4, you aren't going to say that the answer is 1×2 plus 4, you are going to add all of them in order because of Bedmas and just their existence. Let's say you are playing btd 6, when you use overclock on a tower that is buffed by village, you are just buffing it more, nothing is stacking, but when you buy an ultraboost and use the ability many times, it stacks. Let's say that these somehow don't apply and your non-existent points do. You still mentioned commander nohn medics and kritz in your comment. Unless you really can't comprehend anything, you should easily understand that I am talking about the 3 damage buff tower and not the one firerate. In another situation, your point would only be accurate if you only mentioned medic and edj. Right now, you did that which you shouldn't have cause I never even cared about that. There is a huge difference between arguing about something that the person is talking about or arguing on some other stuff. Anyone can have a chance at those kinds of stuff. Now, if it is not apparent to you, I am talking about the DAMAGE BUFFS stacking.
Since i only ever do endless. i say golden mine layer is a tier. although good, it dies quickly. if you dont pair it with medic then honestly i would rate it as b. i can see this tower wasting alot of the players income because if they do die you have to replace and replacing matters cause the mines de spawn. in summary your wasting money on a tower that previously did the same amount of dps
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G mine layer is mid cuz if you gonna spam charged throw you need a hella good micro to make g mine layer's damage consistent since most ppl wont do that g mine layer is just mid so grind for g jugg warship or xwm
g jugg is mandatory for endless. Should be S
These golden tower live up to their name.
(They’re fking gold)
What about golden zed?😢
Great but still less effective than a nuke
It not a tower
@@margarethh7koo154 stfu dont ruin my dreams
Golden zed is an consumable...
@@Notbadfanhe’s being satire
G mine is mid to end
G ranger is early to mid but can be end (but if you have better towers than G ranger it will either become a supoort)
G juggernaut is the ultimate end game tower (idc if your opinion is WS since you need BIG water)
Its not like your locked on what maps you can pick. Its your choice, its crazy how the maps with warship water are meta
Warship is very map dependent while golden jug is good for every map.
@StarWithAPencil its not like you cant pick a map with warship water. Every map difficulty has atleast one map where you can place warship
Warship carries hordes, G jugg just kills the bosses way better and helps with lowering the enemy HP to help Warship kill the hordes. Both are just as good, just that G jugg is more reliable for a ton of better dps.
what I hated about john showcasing G mine layer, was that he said it's 6500 DPS. But it's not dps, it's dmg. if it's 18 seconds, It would actually be 368 dps not including splash.
Some people just don’t know some things
And also afterburn damage that boosts it up to 400 ish
probably misspoke
Xwm is not worth getting over golden juggernaut right now. Xwm turret has fallen off a lot recently and golden juggernaut has gotten a lot better. Xwm just has too many flaws like placement limit and capped dps. Its way too niche and not cost efficient. Its better to just skip xwm turret.
it doesnt die when a boss uses an insta-kill, it has big fat range, MK-1c insta-kill sweep abillity doesn't waste like 7k+ worth of dps, and is more cheaper than gjugg + you won't waste hundreds of thousands from a funny instakill splash that bosses use
Xwm turret is definitely better early game endless but lategame gjugg far surpasses it. Also the rebuild is only useful in 2 of the 7 gamemodes. Which makes it niche as well as its too expensive in most of them @Animator_guyidk
@@Just_akamegolden jug is also really only good in endless
@KrakenAwakened yeah this isnt even true, gjugg shreds expert, good in nightmare usable in normal intermediate and elite (normal jugg is better in elite tho) but in no way is it only good in endless
@@Just_akame Okay, no way you just said nm. There are so many better options for nm. Same thing for expert.
wait what why does bottom path regular juggernaut do more damage then top path golden juggernaut
cuz the devs are stupid
70k and 100 lvl but I need Golden.G no Gaijin
I need golden rizz layer in my life
W video
lmao its funny how gjug is the lowest ranked golden tower despite being the most expensive.
IM WORTH IT W✅🔥
I would said the golden tower need to be cheaper
GYATTTTTTTTTTTT NOOBSTIEL UPLOADED MY GLORIOUS KING
Personally would lower g jugg to b just because xwm exists
Xwm is ok, its gotten worse over time compared to gjugg right now.
G jugg is bottom S tier, XWM falls off dps wise as harder bosses kill its dps, compared to G jugg (endless mode scenario) mainly because you have a placement limit for it, basically deleting its full potential and keeping it just a alternative to g jugg top path. XWM is only good for doing what G jugg lacks, nothing more. XWM is still top A though.
@OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOF i feel like xwm isnt even A. Considering how niche it is. I mean its only useable in 2 of 7 gamemodes and nightmare is temporary. Its just so niche and endless isnt that meta of a grind. Xwm should be one of the last towers you buy because before level 100 you shouldnt grind endless. And pretty much everything does better in expert. Its like middle of B tier because of how niche it is. If endless was the true meta grind then xwm would be much higher. So not that xwm is necessarily bad this is just not xwms meta
This update killed turret m
@@peterdaniel9818 turret has been mid for a while even before the nerf, the nerf basically just put it deeper into the grave
Imagine golden john
Thank you, wait what?
lil bro did gjugg durty
only if i had the money
gold jug is kinda usless, i never see any good players use him.
Golden piss layer frfr
Gold minelayer glazers explaining why it's good (It's not)
How come? (I don’t got the tower so idk)
Yeah I’m confused why so much hate on golden rizz layer
@@Mrmayhem-fy5ki It makes the game kinda slow and I could only see myself using it in endless mode and hard maps
@@Alnitak-12 that seems to be a theme for all the golden towers
@@demon2go Gold jug and granger are still very useful for expert and intermediate mode, gold jug is generally overshadowed by XWM in endless too.
i think g ranger needs pierce, everything is great but hes useless in endless and tower battles event, and i think he should get ignore laser resist on 4 or even 3 upgrade top path, no one really use g ranger because there better options
Golden mine layer is better then golden jugg
nope,bc g minrlayer isn't needed in the 4 main mides
@@chunhowing6633I call cap
Way better
@@chunhowing6633 so
@@chunhowing6633 the people with golden mine layer is only on endless
To be honest golden mine layer is mid
Go play late game endless then come back here
Ghost -> golden ranger
can it solo expert with edj tho?
the glazing iis real
it dosent even have any resistant pierce bro
Slammer and ghost > almost everything
@@crazy_dead_inside9581 replace ghost with g ranger
I want to dislike the video :3
bruh another weak player spoke about golden jug, you don't have to do this, you never learn to play from golden juggernaut😂
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Actually what he said in the vid is very true golden juggernaut is very expensive and is outclassed by golden ranger in the normal game modes as for endless golden juggernaut is very convenient to have but for solo endless xwm can prove to be more useful plus golden juggernaut dies very easily on most of the waves containing mk 1 combat and apex predator but xwm doesn’t die as easily and max level golden juggernaut can only be bought in endless or on the final 3 waves of expert. (I have golden juggernaut my self)
@@fahadsajjad8649 yes yes yes🤣
i didnt order a freaking YAPPACHINO😭🙏
You do realise that people who carry G jugg usually already know how to use it right? Just because some players with no brains use them, doesn't mean the pros have no skill. I am only level 110 but the amount of strategizing for it to actually work is insane, especially without powerups as you need to maximize its dps as fast as possible or else it will fall off and reward you with absolutely zero dps. I have memorized basically every major G jugg counter wave in endless so I bring supports instead of relying on G jugg. Not every G jugg user only uses G jugg, only the meta kids.
13 views in 7 mins bro fell off 💀
Edit: ppl are starting to get mad..
GET OUT!!!
his channel isnt very big shut up
That trend died, shut up
1 view in 5 days bro fell off
@@Inky-bizz8811 your heated💀