I think he became obsessive with new Joe because new Joe has similarities with old Joe....If old Joe wasnt In new Joe's body d won't have so many similarities for Ming to fall for
There is this scene where he met fortune teller there is some sort of story behind it. May be Ming sense little bit of similarities to confirm that he might ask Joe to stay with him I guess 🤩
From my perspective, for Joe, the reason for choosing Ming, not Sol, not Wut, cuz he knows his debt is a trouble, and especially it’s a long-term issue, he will not make his close friends to get in his trouble also based on Joe’s personality. It seems like a harm to his close people. Joe is kind, nice so he cannot make it happen. But for Ming, their relationship is just a deal. A clear deal. cuz he knows Ming will bother him all the time even if he tries his best to keep away from him. Now that he cannot escape, why not make it as a meaningless deal with Ming. That‘s why he chooses Ming rather than his close friends. Joe is always clear actually
Even if Joe said no to him, ming not gonna Stop there. Joe also know about that. Like he said, he always gets what he want. This series is driving me crazy 😅
Because in the original novel, his family is Hiso. His grandpa is a high ranked officer in the military. Like he said, he always gets what he wants. He is spoilt 😂
I think joe is trying to convince himself that he is doing it for their mother but in reality he still has feelings for miing Nd njoys kissing him...he kissed bk let's not forget.... Cos he has an alternative which is sol ....he could always pay bk but he decides to complicate things more or rather follow his heart.....cos truly that boi will njoy every single time ming touches him😂😂 ...... I dont know why i just cant dislike any of the character although i dislike tong a little 😂😂😂😂 shit happens in real life nd ppl go back to their toxic ex.....so i am just going to sit down, relax nd njoy more drama😂😂
Joe doesn't want to trouble his close one, thats why he don't want to ask p'wut & sol about money I understand Joe's feeling, he prefer to trouble himself instead of his friends
31:43 and Joe is pretty similar. He met Ming and right away fell in love and moved so fast and just excerpted almost anything and even after his death still kinda obsessed with Ming. As you said, both need therapy.
As for Ming and Tong , I wish the writers could make them so miserable at the end cause I’ve never seen any narcissist red flag 🚩 characters like them 😏😡😡😡
In the novel, it's written that Ming was a teenager who was beginning to question about his sexuality and then one day he saw the video clip of the sensual back of this actor which made him sure of his sexuality. It became his obsession leading to infatuation while he was hiding in the closet from his family. He even went abroad to get rid of this infatuation, but then Tong and his sister became a thing that made him more broken obsessed, thinking of what he could never have.
Yeah and in novel their relationship was 1 yr long so its hard to move on and in this time its not his body so how can he accept it because he clearly said to sol we just met accepted music video deal
Ming was 16 years old when he was still very dim about his sexuality, when he first saw the "Tong" on the screen of the mall became his youth enlightenment, so Ming also put a thick filter on Tong's character, which led Ming to beautify Tong's behavior.
Im just wondering if we will see Joe coming bck to his original body because the new joe's body is completely different and how can Ming do all of that to him (its like cheating)
I also think Joe needs therapy to,why choose to be controlled by Ming??? unless maybe he knows Ming won't leave him alone so he might as well get something in exchange
yep，in the novel ming Hethreatened him “You can choose to agree voluntarily, or I can find other ways to force you to agree.,I will always get what I want.”😂😂
As someone who has a mother awaiting a kidney transplant there's an age limit for when you're still eligible for a kidney transplant and after that you just do some form of dialysis.
No, he only slept with Joe standin a couple of times before he found out the truth…Then the table shifts… Joe is the one who has power..I can’t wait to see Ming suffer. 😂😂😂
Joe doesn't want to take money from Sol because he knows he can not repaid it back. He doesn't want it for free ( maybe some will say misplaced "dignity"). Even if it is from a fren, why should we take money without the guarantee of returning?The money ( debt and the hospital bills) is not that small amount. But with Ming, he is making a deal. He is selling himself. Idk why but I don't like Sol that must 😂 cos he first rejected Joe and ridiculed him but then when he went abroad he missed Joe's care and realised only Joe loves and care him sincerely so he wants him back?
I think Joe is a very humble guy so I think he can't accept money that he hasn't worked for. SO I think he would rather "sex work" for Ming than accepting Sol's "donnation". D: Very complicated person.... T.T, admirable, but frustrating"
This series is soo getting on my nerves, especially Joe’s character, the writer makes him look so pathetic and it’s seems he can’t think straight, like seriously who would rather enslaves themselves to their enemies than receive help sincerely from a friend?? All of Joe’s decisions are so annoying 😏😏😏
I think Joe knows for a fact that Ming won't leave him alone and will make his life impossible so he decided to take Ming's offer to might as well have something in return.Also i think he wants to convince himself Ming is not using him so he will look at it like they're using each other.That's how i see it
Am i the only one who feels like joe made a good use of the opportunity like come on guys nobody would give you millions just for free and also either way ming would make him miserable again so why not take advantage of it?
Ming is a redest flag ever!,anyone can see him all the way from pluto. Its heart breaking that Joe's life keeps getting shittier,and unfortunately the only solution to solve it happens to be Ming and his bullie bro-in-law. Even in the next life is being a stand-in, suffering and Ming taking advantage of him😢
We all don't like the thought of joe going back to ming but he has no choice here...ming won't leave him alone plus he needs money....in this situation its better the devil you know.😢
i never really got it but is Joe's acrobatical and martial stunts only fuelled by his spirit because the body was in a coma. And was it on the same level of fitness as Joe's old body or Was there like a missing 6 months time skip betwwen the awaking up and his first audition?
they are giving us that what interested Ming was tong back without that picture he wouldn't have went out of his way to know who tong his and yadayada so if he finds out that's not tong back but JOE couple with the fact that tong doesn't like him he's gonna run with it
this story is getting so stupid like the whole storyline is crazyyy like ming is a demon not less hes so obsessive and toxic and so annoying and like now i cant even stand joe too like these decision makings are crazy stupid like sol and p'wit too offered him money but then he accept ming moneyyy ?????!!!! like what is this i was more disgusted with the kiss than feeling any good feeling out there like huh ?? so idk anymore u guys tell me
I used to support Joe's character but his worst decision made me annoyed dude u get new chance but u still choice same mistakes first place he should haven't work similar place if he want new begining. For my feel like he just excuse himself He also want live together with Ming otherwise he can take help from Sol he help him from mother hospital bills n carrer as well then I don't have any agony to see him suffer when Ming control ur life bcoz u knew Ming's nature .Joe u never want stay away from Ming plz stop to blame fate where u choice yourself pathetic decision .😡
@@ArualMe firstly I watch or read all types series or novel .I believe Life isn't strawberry where everything got sweet whatever u desire everyone face ups n downs n take decision sometimes even I didn't want but if u have to chance to choice decent way but u still choice ur pride shattered badly to sell yourself wow Joe own gave his life control in Ming's knowingly his behavior or obsession isn't funny one side Joe said he doesn't want involve with Ming anymore focus on work n live this life on the other hand u don't stand with ur words n Ming if he is seeing Joe in new Joe don't u think how heartless he is still chose similar way without care with other person of emotion .Ming doesn't know She isn't real mother according she is mother but his son will be feel he ever think as a human being bcoz he is still thinking himself what he wants again did by money .I praise actor's acting bcoz dark n red character r most difficult portray but at the same I point out their toxicity n wrong approach like I like Ming, Vegas ,boston as a character too the way they play actors but doesn't mean I start justify their toxicity.
@@ArualMe Joe n Ming both character need huge character development bcoz Ming's tone,attitude, ways r still similar .I didn't see difference Ming still do whatever he want without care other feeling n Joe really need carry confidence bcoz how do Joe let them other whatever they want do right thing .In real life Ming's obsession love become news headline in every month .it good to see how does Ming work to own .Nobody change quickly when u used to this toxic behaviour .
@Prerana-ep9kp If u're regular reader chinese novels n mahwas then u already read these kind of story alots where almost similar situations but in others story were good after MC come back with New identity he behaviour also change where he became most confident, take smart decision take help others with other could .MC only take help from ex where nobody can help only ex's power help him even after take help from ex MC dominant him doesn't let him control to his life but here Joe just repeat history with same behavior, same choice,same attitude it's really frustration to see him like this but I like their acting so i 'm looking forwards interesting part where I could see Joe's dominance n Ming's politeness
I’m getting frustrated with the series too. Joe is trying to make use of this second chance and the past won’t let him and Joe has LOW self-respect. @joeyboardwell8030 says that Ming has Narcissistic Personality Disorder with obsessive components. He becomes obsessed with anybody he wants and none of his actions make sense. The short I found the comment is “My Stand-In: Is This Love? By @BoysLovenew The series needs to hurry up and reveal Joe’s identity and start the climax. Another thing, if Ming really ‘loves’ Joe, then why would he start a relationship with another man when Ming thinks Joe is still alive? 🤷🏻♀️
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I think he became obsessive with new Joe because new Joe has similarities with old Joe....If old Joe wasnt In new Joe's body d won't have so many similarities for Ming to fall for
Sis did you read the novel
There is this scene where he met fortune teller there is some sort of story behind it. May be Ming sense little bit of similarities to confirm that he might ask Joe to stay with him I guess 🤩
From my perspective, for Joe, the reason for choosing Ming, not Sol, not Wut, cuz he knows his debt is a trouble, and especially it’s a long-term issue, he will not make his close friends to get in his trouble also based on Joe’s personality. It seems like a harm to his close people. Joe is kind, nice so he cannot make it happen. But for Ming, their relationship is just a deal. A clear deal. cuz he knows Ming will bother him all the time even if he tries his best to keep away from him. Now that he cannot escape, why not make it as a meaningless deal with Ming. That‘s why he chooses Ming rather than his close friends. Joe is always clear actually
And still Joe still loves Ming and can’t escape this tox ic relationship
Truth.
Even if Joe said no to him, ming not gonna Stop there. Joe also know about that. Like he said, he always gets what he want. This series is driving me crazy 😅
Ming's audacity has no boundaries I swear, OMG 😬
Yeah the audacity 😅
Because in the original novel, his family is Hiso. His grandpa is a high ranked officer in the military. Like he said, he always gets what he wants. He is spoilt 😂
Ming is not even the reddest flag in this series of BL novels actually.
@@yimingchi95 Yep. It's Tong hehe😏
Wating for each episode is like hell😭 i swear waiting for 7 days for 1 ep is a torture
I think joe is trying to convince himself that he is doing it for their mother but in reality he still has feelings for miing Nd njoys kissing him...he kissed bk let's not forget.... Cos he has an alternative which is sol ....he could always pay bk but he decides to complicate things more or rather follow his heart.....cos truly that boi will njoy every single time ming touches him😂😂 ...... I dont know why i just cant dislike any of the character although i dislike tong a little 😂😂😂😂 shit happens in real life nd ppl go back to their toxic ex.....so i am just going to sit down, relax nd njoy more drama😂😂
Exactly!
Joe doesn't want to trouble his close one, thats why he don't want to ask p'wut & sol about money
I understand Joe's feeling, he prefer to trouble himself instead of his friends
Or it's just ego.
31:43 and Joe is pretty similar. He met Ming and right away fell in love and moved so fast and just excerpted almost anything and even after his death still kinda obsessed with Ming. As you said, both need therapy.
I don't understand why they romanticize the toxicity that exists in that relationship.
Literally, my face when watching My stand in: 😒😓😖😣
My face when watching Wandee Gooday : 🥰😍☺🤭
As for Ming and Tong , I wish the writers could make them so miserable at the end cause I’ve never seen any narcissist red flag 🚩 characters like them 😏😡😡😡
I feel same but writer they will together in the end like others serie 😑
I'm going to crazy for this drama what's the ending of stories 😅 woaahhhhh
But about hospitality I cannot blame Joe for his decision.
In the novel, it's written that Ming was a teenager who was beginning to question about his sexuality and then one day he saw the video clip of the sensual back of this actor which made him sure of his sexuality. It became his obsession leading to infatuation while he was hiding in the closet from his family. He even went abroad to get rid of this infatuation, but then Tong and his sister became a thing that made him more broken obsessed, thinking of what he could never have.
Please can u tell me more😩😩
In novel ???
Where it is available ??
Yeah and in novel their relationship was 1 yr long so its hard to move on and in this time its not his body so how can he accept it because he clearly said to sol we just met accepted music video deal
This serie is just so good ! I don't know what will happen to me if it ended 😢
Damn this episode .. It was a roller coaster for Joe!! Oh wow
I just love how this series is going......everything drives me crazy❤😂😂😂joe and ming ride on guys am with you😂😂😂
Ming was 16 years old when he was still very dim about his sexuality, when he first saw the "Tong" on the screen of the mall became his youth enlightenment, so Ming also put a thick filter on Tong's character, which led Ming to beautify Tong's behavior.
Im just wondering if we will see Joe coming bck to his original body because the new joe's body is completely different and how can Ming do all of that to him (its like cheating)
After a long time finally we've got some actually good bl series
I also think Joe needs therapy to,why choose to be controlled by Ming??? unless maybe he knows Ming won't leave him alone so he might as well get something in exchange
yep，in the novel ming Hethreatened him “You can choose to agree voluntarily, or I can find other ways to force you to agree.,I will always get what I want.”😂😂
As someone who has a mother awaiting a kidney transplant there's an age limit for when you're still eligible for a kidney transplant and after that you just do some form of dialysis.
Tell me I am not the only one thinking Ming has been sleeping with Joe Stand-Ins for 2 years Ewww.
No, he only slept with Joe standin a couple of times before he found out the truth…Then the table shifts… Joe is the one who has power..I can’t wait to see Ming suffer. 😂😂😂
I remember someone once asked why Harry Potter didn't buy Ron Weasley a new wand. I think it's the same reason why Joe didn't take Sol's money.
Well if ming is a red flag then tong is the red forest.Honestly they would have been a perfect pair😂.
that the question new JOE needs to ask Ming if the old Joe comes back what will Ming do
Joe doesn't want to take money from Sol because he knows he can not repaid it back. He doesn't want it for free ( maybe some will say misplaced "dignity"). Even if it is from a fren, why should we take money without the guarantee of returning?The money ( debt and the hospital bills) is not that small amount. But with Ming, he is making a deal. He is selling himself. Idk why but I don't like Sol that must 😂 cos he first rejected Joe and ridiculed him but then when he went abroad he missed Joe's care and realised only Joe loves and care him sincerely so he wants him back?
I am just now watching the episodes, and your commentary is hilarious 😂😂
I'm going to crazy for this drama what's the ending of stories 😅 woaahhhhh
Honestly I'm hating on tong and Joe atp
I think Joe is a very humble guy so I think he can't accept money that he hasn't worked for. SO I think he would rather "sex work" for Ming than accepting Sol's "donnation". D: Very complicated person.... T.T, admirable, but frustrating"
That's really! 👌🤐. No words
This series is soo getting on my nerves, especially Joe’s character, the writer makes him look so pathetic and it’s seems he can’t think straight, like seriously who would rather enslaves themselves to their enemies than receive help sincerely from a friend??
All of Joe’s decisions are so annoying 😏😏😏
Ikr like he's so stupid
I think Joe knows for a fact that Ming won't leave him alone and will make his life impossible so he decided to take Ming's offer to might as well have something in return.Also i think he wants to convince himself Ming is not using him so he will look at it like they're using each other.That's how i see it
Am i the only one who feels like joe made a good use of the opportunity like come on guys nobody would give you millions just for free and also either way ming would make him miserable again so why not take advantage of it?
Ming is a redest flag ever!,anyone can see him all the way from pluto.
Its heart breaking that Joe's life keeps getting shittier,and unfortunately the only solution to solve it happens to be Ming and his bullie bro-in-law. Even in the next life is being a stand-in, suffering and Ming taking advantage of him😢
We all don't like the thought of joe going back to ming but he has no choice here...ming won't leave him alone plus he needs money....in this situation its better the devil you know.😢
Everybody have what they used to remind someone people that are more intimate to one another you can use to remember the person.
Sis did you read the novel its good
I think Joe didn’t take the money from Sol because he’s a good person. Me personally I would have took it rather than being Ming’s slave.
beacuse he loves ming
He had no choice…Like Ming said he always gets what he wants. It’s either his way or no way…
@@alarakaplean I forgot about that. Joe did say he felt like all the stuff from the past just happened.
_Ming really frustrates me like I don't know what to think about him anymore.🤨🤨🤨 like it doesn't make sense at all.🙄🙄🙄
i never really got it but is Joe's acrobatical and martial stunts only fuelled by his spirit because the body was in a coma. And was it on the same level of fitness as Joe's old body or Was there like a missing 6 months time skip betwwen the awaking up and his first audition?
they are giving us that what interested Ming was tong back without that picture he wouldn't have went out of his way to know who tong his and yadayada so if he finds out that's not tong back but JOE couple with the fact that tong doesn't like him he's gonna run with it
Ming is so Smart.
Narcissistic psychopaths are smart but do we take them as good people?
I don’t get Joe’s strategy!!
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Joe is really getting on my nerves
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this story is getting so stupid like the whole storyline is crazyyy like ming is a demon not less hes so obsessive and toxic and so annoying and like now i cant even stand joe too like these decision makings are crazy stupid like sol and p'wit too offered him money but then he accept ming moneyyy ?????!!!! like what is this i was more disgusted with the kiss than feeling any good feeling out there like huh ?? so idk anymore u guys tell me
I used to support Joe's character but his worst decision made me annoyed dude u get new chance but u still choice same mistakes first place he should haven't work similar place if he want new begining. For my feel like he just excuse himself He also want live together with Ming otherwise he can take help from Sol he help him from mother hospital bills n carrer as well then I don't have any agony to see him suffer when Ming control ur life bcoz u knew Ming's nature .Joe u never want stay away from Ming plz stop to blame fate where u choice yourself pathetic decision .😡
@@ArualMe firstly I watch or read all types series or novel .I believe Life isn't strawberry where everything got sweet whatever u desire everyone face ups n downs n take decision sometimes even I didn't want but if u have to chance to choice decent way but u still choice ur pride shattered badly to sell yourself wow Joe own gave his life control in Ming's knowingly his behavior or obsession isn't funny one side Joe said he doesn't want involve with Ming anymore focus on work n live this life on the other hand u don't stand with ur words n Ming if he is seeing Joe in new Joe don't u think how heartless he is still chose similar way without care with other person of emotion .Ming doesn't know She isn't real mother according she is mother but his son will be feel he ever think as a human being bcoz he is still thinking himself what he wants again did by money .I praise actor's acting bcoz dark n red character r most difficult portray but at the same I point out their toxicity n wrong approach like I like Ming, Vegas ,boston as a character too the way they play actors but doesn't mean I start justify their toxicity.
@@ArualMe Joe n Ming both character need huge character development bcoz Ming's tone,attitude, ways r still similar .I didn't see difference Ming still do whatever he want without care other feeling n Joe really need carry confidence bcoz how do Joe let them other whatever they want do right thing .In real life Ming's obsession love become news headline in every month .it good to see how does Ming work to own .Nobody change quickly when u used to this toxic behaviour .
@Prerana-ep9kp If u're regular reader chinese novels n mahwas then u already read these kind of story alots where almost similar situations but in others story were good after MC come back with New identity he behaviour also change where he became most confident, take smart decision take help others with other could .MC only take help from ex where nobody can help only ex's power help him even after take help from ex MC dominant him doesn't let him control to his life but here Joe just repeat history with same behavior, same choice,same attitude it's really frustration to see him like this but I like their acting so i 'm looking forwards interesting part where I could see Joe's dominance n Ming's politeness
@@monisingh771 So true dear first reason i'm watching bcoz of acting second bcoz I wanna see them when their karma hit them.😡
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Ming is the worst character i have ever seen...oh my gosh
Ming is walking...well not just a 🚩but whole dam red city. And I read the novel, must say Tong is even worse
Worst character? I don’t think so. I think the one from Love syndrome III is worse. He is abusive and annoying.
I’m getting frustrated with the series too. Joe is trying to make use of this second chance and the past won’t let him and Joe has LOW self-respect.
@joeyboardwell8030 says that Ming has Narcissistic Personality Disorder with obsessive components. He becomes obsessed with anybody he wants and none of his actions make sense. The short I found the comment is “My Stand-In: Is This Love? By @BoysLovenew
The series needs to hurry up and reveal Joe’s identity and start the climax.
Another thing, if Ming really ‘loves’ Joe, then why would he start a relationship with another man when Ming thinks Joe is still alive? 🤷🏻♀️
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