The Limestone Enigma
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- Опубликовано: 29 июл 2024
- Why doesn't anybody ponder the LIMESTONE Enigma anymore?!
The limestone blocks of the pyramids were protected by the casing stones for 4,000 years until just 300 years ago. If the oldest limestone quarries (also 4,000 years old) still show their chisel marks, then the limestone blocks of the pyramids should definately still show theirs. --But they don't.
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00:00 - Intro.
00:48 - Quarry Illustrations.
01:22 - Quarry photos and pyramid blocks photos.
03:22 - If not local limestone, then where are they from?
03:48 - Always keep an open mind! 
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Building with limestone it is best to use lime mortar. How is lime mortar made? Limestone chunks are heated to drive out all the moisture and carbon dioxide to leave quick lime. The quick lime is is then mixed with water, approximately a dustbin of water to one bucket of quick lime. The water boils in 30 seconds leaving a pure white lime putty that can be used as a paint or mixed with coarse sand and limestone dust to create lime mortar. As lime mortar hardens is absorbs the carbon dioxide that was driven off by the heat in the first phase thus it is a carbon neutral process. Sold blocks of lime stone can be cast using the mortar. Various additives to the mortar can change its properties, for example the whey from butter and cheese manufacture in creases the durability and hardness of the mortar. Is this a possibility for creating the building blocks of the pyramids?
Yes, sodium casinate from milk protein can do what wheat glutin does; namely form very long chain polymers which are molecule-grabbing binders. Think of very stretched pizza dough and very stretched melted cheese. They bind to powdered and pulverized stone particles...forming stone when dry and hard.
What size oven is needed to bake these stones? How were the needed temperatures reached? If solar mirrors, how and where were they made?
It is possible that they had an additional process to smooth the sides of the blocks. It would be necessary to keep the blocks tight without mortar. The chiseled surfaces could not achieve that. I personally believe that the chisel marks are too uniform to be done by hand. Blocks may have been poured somehow. One of your pictures showed a quary with blocks where the spaces cut out between did not look big enough for a person chiseling to fit between. But I know nothing. Peace!
How does one pour a natural stone?
@@mattcouch2965 i dont know or claim it was done here, but you actually can "cast stone". Roman concrete is a perfect example, and it only becomes stronger and more "real" over time.
Lime in general will re-harden into stone. Its not like limestone magically appeared on earth. We can recreate the chemical processes that allow it to form.
Now i would think the evidence would be clear in samples if that was the case, but I just wanted to point out that we do indeed know how to mwke a slurry that will turn into stone over time.
They were poured or compacted
Why would they pour them? Pour them into what? Molds? There are 2+ million limestone blocks, all with different dimensions. You'd have to have 2+ million different molds. Not to mention, the Egyptians (or whoever built the pyramids) had the ability to move 70+ ton granite blocks 300 feet into the air, they definitely had the technology/means to move the 2 ton blocks of limestone with ease.
Maybe it wasn't querried at all.
ruclips.net/video/3CPMXeuSWq4/видео.html
@@andreroy8141 We can trace the limestone blocks back to their quarries. You can still see the limestone blocks in situ in the various quarries. Not to mention, like I said earlier...they had the ability to quarry, cut, move, shape, polish, 100+ton granite stones, granite which cannot be melted and poured....they had the technology, however or whatever was used. If they could do that with granite, red granite, andesite, etc...Cutting and moving much lighter limestone would be no problem.
Also, the link you provided, I did watch and there are a lot of errors in it. One of which in regards to the Barbara caves. You are able to get a mirror like finish like that on granite. That mirror like finish can also be found on the granite boxes of saqarra in the serrapeum. Some kind of liquid based acid is my guess since they were able to achieve that level of polish even in the scoop marks in the granite box lids in the serrapeum. I don't doubt they did crush, make a slurry, and pour some limestone blocks, but not to the extent as the video portrays.
@@coryCuc so if they used local quarries instead of the surrounding minerals, wouldn't there have to be a 40 story deep quarry for the great pyramid. And the same would be for the others?? There should be some massive multi-story deep pits somewhere.
@@DReyesNYC That's a good point. It's possible there are other quarries that have yet to be discovered, especially if they quarried the rock to where it was a flat surface on top. Who knows what's under all that sand.
But we do know that they came from certain quarries. In fact, they numbered the stones that were quarried and then when they were used in the pyramids they were put in the order in which they were quarried. For example, one of the pyramids has about 10 limestone blocks all next to each other that has a salt crack running through each of the blocks. You can see it going from one block to the next. There's no way you can create that if they were poured. And it shows that they were quarried and not only that, they were placed in the pyramid next to each other how they came out of the ground. That's next level difficulty right there lol. Here's a link that shows what I'm talking about
ruclips.net/video/raL9OQbNCTw/видео.html
Its three to four repairs. The stones underneath with clean cut edges are another generations finished pyramid. You must have seen the entrance, with the nice neat limestone finish it was covered up.
I still haven't found a Nub on any of the interior masonry. Plenty of Nubs at Menkaures and the Queen's pyramids exterior casing stones. There must be 100,000 blocks on show and no Nubs.
I can't comprehend the construction method they used, and the purpose of the nubs is just as confounding. Too small and wrongly shaped to be useful in moving or placing, what are they? And for people who went to the lengths they did to build these - with exact angles, etc - why would they have left these sloppy, almost random bumps? And if it's symbolism, where is the pattern? And why do these bumps show up at sites around the world?
And then as you point out, they are completely missing from these blocks.
Sadly I've gotta go with the geopolymer theory, at least for many of the ancient formations. They aren't melted, just mixed and show the same signs of outer corrosion seen in every other megalith that used this technique
Geopolymer falls on start....you dont have two identical blocks anywhere
@@PedjoGT why would they look identical? There would need to be numerous different mold sizes and it's been so many years that they're all busted up anyway. In Peru they just molded it like clay, there's even clear signs of the softened rock flowing over the molds and other direct correlations between Roman concrete and geopolymer from ancient Egypt. It explains everything from the concaved slabs from unequal cooling to granite vases that are molded like clay. It's disappointing as f* but yeah there's difinitive proof at this point
@@QuixEnd I think that mold problem is a problem...if you dont have two identical block, you expect milions of molds
@@PedjoGT The blocks were molded in place, up against resisting blocks, and a building principal, could be NOT to make same size blocks and pattern for better structure.
Just no
The best part is there will never be an answer to this question. Lost to time. Fitting really.
Now, this calm man points out to things others don't, and without saying too much and without repeating the same bs others keep on repeating endlessly that is why the video is enjoyable short, I like it, I subscribed because of it... I want to see more smart free videos to me like this one... thanks thanks thanks.
This calm man is probably going to get yelled at by Zahi Hawass for not towing the party line!
Tina at the Curious Being channel has an interesting theory about this. It might be an ancient mining operation.
Well quarries are mines.
Yes. Tina is sharp. Very clever.
What do we mine from limestone? Magnetite. A form of iron ore. Also rare earth elements like tungsten. We crush the stone to dust, extract the metals and pile the tailings up in conical piles. We mine reactive elements in much the same way, except we form cement blocks from the waste and stack them away underground in salt mines. Not saying the Giza plateau was a nuclear dump, just pointing to a technology. The pyramids could in fact be some combination of such technology. Tina seems to be headed in that general direction.
What ever they did will surprise the hell out of us when we finally figure it out.
@@MrJento David Childress has a great book on this called "Technology of the Ancients" or "Technology of the Gods"... He theorizes that the Giza pyramids could have been huge "tuning forks" (sort of) that used sound waves to harness electricity, or something.
An interesting read, fwiw
@@jmmartin7766
Thank you. I had a first edition copy in 2001. I read it and gave it to a library. The book is thought provoking but highly speculative and not solidly rooted in science. Physics and music have been too well studied to have missed the “special frequency” referenced in the book. Moreover in order to have a string vibrate, for example, it must be plucked. That is set into oscillation. It would require one hell of a pick to pluck a pyramid.
There is some credence to the use of ultrasonics in cutting stone. And certain Egyptian carvings show individuals with what might be a tuning fork on a long pole. Something like that may be possible. Have you ever had your teeth cleaned ultrasonically by a dentist? Interesting technology.
But keep reading! Fox out.
With millions of blocks moved. If by river. I would think someone could find blocks from boats/barges that sank or tipped over somewhere along its course. I'm thinking many more than one.
It was poured like ciment into molds. That's why the fitment is so precise!
For the pyramids, poured and pounded/tamped few inches at a time. Like rammed earth. Several people have recreated the process. It’s the first theory that actually makes sense.
Been debunked many times, so ...no.
Yeah this is almost certainly what they did. Its so disappointing too, thats how i thought everything was built for years until I found out that experts didn't believe it was possible.. figured they must know better after decades, apparently not
@@petejung3122 the melted rock theory was debunked, not the cement like mixture and molds theory. mixed granite is such a simplistic solution to nearly all the mysteries of megaliths. Vases weren't carved, they were modeled like regular jars, same with walls in Peru. Those ancient statues with impossible detail? Yes, molded like clay. All of it is easily explained this way, makes so much sense and idk why the "experts" didn't accept this decades ago
@@QuixEnd yupper even the marble statues. Marble dust and resins. Look at resin counter tops…they look just like granite…
Another fantastic video Harvey! I can’t wait to watch the in depth video you promised that will cover how they were quarried! I love your videos and own your books, keep up the fine research and production! 🕊🍄🐇🌍🌞⚡️🌜🦢🐫🇪🇬🐍🌟🐃🔥🐇🐇🍄
Good Point! I've watched many videos on the Giza Pyramids, but NO ONE has EVER brought this up before!
There are quarry marks
Maybe because they have better quality images and can see the chisel marks and spectrograph analysis of the block composition.
I've been there. The marks on the limestone blocks of the pyramids match the marks on the massive limestone blocks of the Valley Temple
Are you referring to the smooth blocks in question?
@@travismcclung8761 they aren't really smooth. There are ridges on them
But the Valley Temple is mostly granite,, the one in front if Khafre is anyways.
@@intriguingmegalithicperspe1764 it's limestone core are the stone with the similar marks as the Pyramids. Interestingly the granite casing and the enormous limestone blocks are polygonal.
Just another Great observation that experts can not answer!
You know they are experts when there are questions that they cant answer. It is the dilettante, armchair quarterbacks who have all the answers. Like aliens. No one has ever seen one. No one knows what they do. No evidence exists of one. And yet here they are. The least likely solution to this problem.
Civilisation started way sooner than it is depicted “history is a set of lies agreed upon”
-Napolean Bonaparte
Wow, magnificent point. Thanks
Very interesting More please!!
"Liquid Stones" that video explains it all.
We do not know for certain the quarry chisel markes were for the project of building the Pyramids or another project. Has any analysis been performed to compare the composition of the stones from the two locations? Do those chisel markes appear at any of the other sites? Why were they chiseled and not removed from the quarry site? So many questions but not enough answers.
And the other question would be, if these limestone blocks are not from the chiseled quarry, where did they use the limestone blocks they chiseled from this quarry and where is the quarry that they got the blocks they did use located ?
There are several ways to cut limestone rock, other than cutting it with a chisel and hammer. I see that the first 11 rows of blocks in the khufu pyramid are molded with geopolymer and from there upwards they are roughly cut and smaller blocks. It is very likely that the cutting method was with a sliding saw with a copper blade without teeth, using a hanging and tilting system. Greetings
The "boat pits" were for large circular saws.
Harvey, do you know of any current or recent experiments to soften and fit stones? I would love hear about that.
Check out Paul Cook on his channel he shows someone making rocks of limestone to powder with some liquid and then goes to a past and then back to hard rock
On a six sided block, the chisel marks would be on only two sides. The remaining sides would have been cut by splitting the block using wedges and water. Consequently the two chiseled sides could have been placed on the top and bottom where they would be hidden with the mortar. As to the casing stones, these would have been sanded and polished. Still, it is interesting that there are no visible chisel marks visible. It's hard to imagine that they would sand the chisel marks off of each block. What I find interesting is the courses of the pyramid. Egyptologists say that the inner parts of theses courses were slapped together haphazardly and cemented in with mortar. I can understand this in terms of the horizontal axis but the vertical axis must have been set to a specific height for each block. Otherwise it would have been near impossible to drag a block across the course to its final position with blocks jutting out vertically from the course below. Another interesting question is what determined the height of each course. Using cubits, palms, and fingers of the Egyptian measuring system, there doesn't seem to be any relation to the actual course heights which vary considerably in the Great Pyramid.
I've wondered about this also.
@@mpetersen6 the Great Pyramid on the plateau was already standing and very ancient when discovered by modern man.and the Egyptians. A far greater, and technological advanced civilizations once existed , perhaps millions of years prior to the great flood and the Egyptians. For whatever reason that civilization that was the builders of many things and ancient cities. Why were the all abandoned, and why do todays inhabitants all say their people never constructed their walls, megalithic structures, but it was the Gods who did it. Why did the Egyptians STOP building pyramids? Because their attempts to copy the great pyramids couldn't be achieved . You see all the haphazardly built, and piles of rubble from the Egyptian efforts, but they could not and did not build or recreate the great pyramids of the Giza plateau .so sorry!
@@richardcoram1562 so its seems that the "advanced" civilization can build big things but never considered the shapes of each block need to be the exact same size and have a quality control for that ? Even those chinese cut stones with the exact same size and exact same shapes, why can't this "advanced" civilization do that ? Is the chinese a greater in artistic value or is the chinese do that because they can do that ? Sure if they were so advanced why dont they just make it a little bit exact same size ?
@@vincentzakuwan1521 you will have to get your answers from the exact blueprints, and stone work orders held by the project manager construction office. Those documents have never been seen, or written about. Its all so ancient that our modern brains cannot begin to comprehend just how simple it all was. Especially in light of the fact that society at that time was still developing new and better technologies, but they had only advanced a little over 250,000years because they(Egyptians) were still using wood tipped spears, bows and arrows, wooden mallots, and limited numbers of metal axes/hatchets.. Good luck in your quest for answers to the worlds greatest mystery.
@@richardcoram1562 nah most likely that its either they don't need any mean to record how to made it, or instruction to made it simply lost to time due its written in leather, as for why they can't made it like a laser cutting, its because their tools simply can't achieve the 1 mm accuracy
Good video, as you mentioned the limestone is a much softer material than per say granite. So wouldn’t it make sense after hundreds of years that these chisel marks would be simply eroded away. Unless you could pull out random stones from the pyramids and observe the back sides one would never really know.
Yes I agree and another thing to consider is, were the quarries buried in sand for thousands of years also thus protecting them from weathering?
Perfectly smooth erosion? I'm not buying it,, this is absolutely proof a Ancient Alien's Lazar technology.
You still wouldn't lose every last chisel pattern on all the rocks, more so with natural limestone. I know everyone hates the geopolymer theory but it's the only reasonable explanation for most of the megalith structures
@@QuixEnd yes, but the geopolymer theory has its own problems. The biggest one being the different size blocks. Why would they make a different size form for every block they made. Not logical therefore not probable.
The biggest reason non of it makes sense is their technology was nothing like ours.
go down into the city, all the buildings there are built from the pyramids. should be a suitable block there for you..
You ask why would they do that (smooth the chisel marks). Who knows? Why would they build a pyramid of that size and scope in the first place?
Fascinating
Nice work , most excellent point
Very good! Thank you! 👍
There are so many nicely cut tunnels under the Giza plateau, they had to bring that up out of those tunnels and put it somewhere.
You could get lost in those tunnels according to many researchers. Incredible, even if only limestone.
Yes, interesting observation
Not chiseled and not poured. They are too flat. Polygonal Stonework and flat cuts with square edges are everywhere. Therefore it must be easy.
all different sizes, so no mold?
How darn interesting.!
Puzzling!
Confusing.
Baffling
Great observation thanks.
Could the blocks have been dragged earlier producing the smoother edges. Then when technology caught up to easier moving methods showing tool marks?
smoothed over many pebbles in route, like a tumbler?
Intriguing.... interesting all the way around
regarding some of the comments, Geo-Polymer doesn't make sense to me . why would the ancient builders grind up all the limestone rocks from the local quarries into dust and then stick it all back together again to form huge great blocks? - scratches head - Also looking at those blocks partly cut out of the bedrock; to cut the sides and back of the block in situ, they must have had very long chisels.... I like Mr Turner's graphics and drawings. Nice open minded commentary. In some ways it is fun trying to figure out some of the ancient puzzles, although it is a bit scary trying to figure out what kind of cataclysm could have erased huge chunks of history!
You can carry dust in buckets. You do not even need a crane.
Blocks are too heavy for soft operations. You just need a proper stone mill. That's what I would search for. At the quarry. Maybe the temples are re-used mills. Water-powered maybe. But that's just a guess.
If you are digging tunnels in Limestone you will end up with a lot of limestone dust and if the tunnels you are digging contain valuables you would probably want to put up walls to keep people from stealing it and what better material to use to build the walls than the materials you're pulling out of the ground and have to get rid of any how
I know for a fact they use this technic when "restoring" a complex,temple etc. They say they do it the way its been done for thousands of yrs.
As Daniel Swann suggests , "removing material from tunnels" gets me asking the next question . What lays deep below the Pyramyds ?
The kind of cataclysm that is referred to in today’s world as a “Great Reset”
We live in an enclosed earth system. God described it in the Bible basically the same way almost all of the known ancient civilizations depicted it in cave pictures and storytelling passed down to the new generations- a FLAT, FIXED PLANE- not a globe like we’ve been led to believe. There’s no “space”- not the kind NASA tries to sell us- for upwards of 33billion dollars worth of tax payers money every year.. God created our plane with a dome firmament separating the waters above from the waters below. Nothing can leave our atmosphere, the van Allen belt radiation is strong enough to burn everything up into dust.. that is if we could ever even get close enough to it!! The dome firmament God used to enclose our plane is like a ceiling, and nothing is coming through that firmament to bring upon a cataclysmic event. Dinosaurs are a psy-op, just like the globe heliocentric model. We do not orbit the sun, we are the center of the universe here, not the other way around. Also the sun and moon are not millions of miles away from us, they are local luminaries enclosed under that same dome firmament God was so nice to equip us with! I strongly encourage anyone reading this to use their common sense and discernment to navigate through the lies of our lifetime and seek the truth. For the truth and the truth alone shall set you free. God bless all my brothers and sisters and God speed, another “cataclysmic” reset is taking place at this very moment and the only true survival for our society is stopping their plans before they wipe us all out. Peace be with you in these trying and often terrifying times
As to where the limestone was quarried the chemical composition of the stones should match the quarry site.
One thing about bronze all most all people do not know. In the early 1900s there was a company founded called Ampco in Milwaukee. They specialized in Bronze alloys. Primarily Aluminum Copper* alloys. This one reason that such alloys are commonly referred to as Ampco. The very first product they brought to market was a line of cutting tools that were a bronze alloy (all bronzes are really copper alloys, I'm using bronze to distinguish bronze from brass) that was meant to cut steel. This was an improvement on the standard high carbon steel cutting tools used at the time. Just what the alloy was I don't know. But I wonder if the Egyptians had accidently stumbled on a way to make a higher grade of copper based alloys for tools. A recipe that was since lost. Most if not all of the tools would probably been recycled into other uses.
*Regular Bronzes are a mix of Copper and Tin with other elements added for different wear properties. Aluminum Bronzes have no tin. They are alloys of Copper, Aluminum with Iron, Nickel and other elements depending on the characteristics needed in the alloy. Also at normal temperatures Copper based alloys are a face centered crystalline structure. Meaning any allowing elements are centered in the faces of the crystal. Steel is the same way. But once at the temperature needed for hardening it shifts to a body centered structure. Meaning the alloying element is inside the crystal. Rapid cooling forces the alloying element to stay in that crystalline structure. This is why you can harden steel. Copper based alloys work the same way.
maybe they used water cutting, using pressurized water, like used today to cut stone. the biggest annoyance to me is the cutting of the sarcophagus. cutting a slab is one thing, but a whole sarcophagus is like carving a pumpkin. pupkins are soft on the inside, but a sarcophagus would be a nightmare to cut if it was from a solid block.
if the sphinx did not point to the constellation leo, an age that ended 10 thousand years ago, being buried in sand for almost the entire time, the water erosion from rain that has not fallen in that part of the world for over 10 thousand years proves it is far older than classical thinking goes. coming out of the end of the last ice age.
@@commonsense-og1gz have you seen how those chinese carved out stone into dining tables ? They even hollow up the chairs
@@vincentzakuwan1521 i haven't.
Yes 👍 i enjoyed this video. You point out something i havent thought 💭 of yet. Some stones look reused ♻️.
How about the builders smoothed the blocks after delivery to site ?
Great video. As always, you ask excellent questions. Seems the closer we look at these sites, the more holes appear in the orthodox version we were all taught as fact. Btw, I love your video style: easy to understand with wonderful imagery. Looking forward to the next one!
They ground the limestone and then used it to make geopolymer. The geopolymer was then cast into blocks. There has been an ancient Egyptian recipe found for said geopolymer.
then why aren't the pyramid blocks of standard size? They are all different.
Been debunked many times.
Fossils are still visible in the building blocks, so no crushing so no geopolymer.
@@fantasia55 A good question, and one the geopolymer set usually ignore.
Good catch!
2:23 That's an interesting picture. Is that an actual picture from the limestone quarries in Egypt? Those groves look too precise to be chisel marks? Too symmetrical...has anyone measured those striations?
That's a good question. Has anyone ever done spectrographic analysis of the blocks to determine their origin and composition or if copper residue is on the surface? Has anyone ever taken a close photo of the blocks? Surely they have. A better question would be, "Why do youtubers ignore that data?"
@@negi9040 Good question. I don't know if anyone has done any spectrographic analysis on the blocks. I want to say that there has been "some" analysis (chemical, geological) on SOME of the inner limestone blocks but I don't recall 100%. The Egypt's Supreme Council of Antiquities office which approves any and all excavation, renovations, analysis (large and small) etc...has a lockdown on virtually everything scientific on the plateau. I do know since that idiot Hawass is no longer in charge of things, it's gotten a lot better, but I don't know if anyone has done the testing you had just mentioned. I'm not very familiar with that kind of testing so I had to do a little quick google search before writing my reply, but from what I gather, that spectrographic analysis would be a big help and seems pretty non intrusive?
I do know they have done analysis on the granite blocks used in the inner chambers, especially the red granite, and you can use simple handheld magnifying glasses to measure the quartz crystal sizes and other stuff like mica and feldspar and such in the granite and it has been accurately traced back to the granite quarries at Aswan.
There are some much better pictures of the limestone blocks and you can see sea shells in the limestone blocks which some prove that the great flood deposited those sea shells when the pyramids were partially submerged....others use the same evidence that it was the slurry that was made and then poured into molds which contained the sea shells that happened to stay intact while they were crushing the limestone to make the powder/slurry (I don't buy into the whole pouring of the limestone blocks using molds because all the blocks are different and you'd have to have 2+ million different shaped molds).
But there is a guy who has a channel on RUclips called The Land of Chem and he shows that the the outer limestone blocks (not the casing stones) not only came from the same quarry, but they were cut and removed from the quarry and numbered. They were then placed in the pyramid next to each other IN THE SAME ORDER THEY WERE QUARRIED (if that makes sense). How he came to that conclusion is that you can see limestone blocks all next to each other...say 10-15 blocks and you'll see natural crack marks that go from one block to the next to the next to the next to the next. The same crack (I believe it's a salt crack) and it starts at one block and continues to other blocks). What the hell? Talk about adding difficulty? Not only are they quarrying blocks and cutting and shaping them, but for whatever reason they made sure to that when they were used in the pyramids they kept the same orientation/order in the pyramid as they did when they came out of the earth??? Crazy. I'm searching for the link of the video that shows this but it's pretty wild.
Lastly, there's TOOONS of mortar thrown in between and over and on the inner limestone blocks. I wonder if that would cause the chisel marks to disappear over time?
Here's the link to what I referenced above: ruclips.net/video/raL9OQbNCTw/видео.html
Sorry for the long reply lol. But I agree with you 10000%. We need more scientific, chemical, imaging, lidar readings from all over the plateau. If it wasn't for the red tape, imagine what we'd know?
@@coryCuc Salt found in ruins doesn't mean anything because it naturally migrates over time from the interior of the limestone blocks to the surface. Shells in limestone is to be expected since it forms in shallow oceans. One thing people overlook in regards to poured limestone blocks is the massive amount of fuel needed to power the furnaces to process that much limestone greatly exceeds the capacity of the region. The robots sent into the queens chamber air shaft, saw chisel marks on the stone, something inaccessible and never seen since the pyramids construction.
@@negi9040 The salt cracks you can literally follow from block to block to block. That doesn't happen with random blocks that aren't next to each other. Of course there should be shells. I specially said that in my comment.
@@coryCuc I did not recall that the vein inclusions were salt when I made that reference. I was referring to the submergence claims you referenced. I apologize for not being clear. One of the basis for that claim is salt being found in the pyramids. I was presenting a natural occurrence for the presence of that salt which doesn't require submergence. You are clearly very informed on this subject. I was adding that info for others who are less informed to consider.
Damn! I never noticed that before.
excellent point
I believe the Egyptians DID chisel & quarry, but NOT for thr pyramids. The pyramids were where they are at today long before the Egyptians came.
Even though those limestone blocks were used as "filler", they were still fitted together for a snug fit, so... I am going to say that the Egyptians smoothed out the quarried ridges.
The problem with those quarry marks, the lines like corduroy, is that they are more likely to crumble off when multiple blocks are put against each other. This could cause a loose fit instead of a snug one.
I have done woodwork where the initial cut is rough, but I needed to smooth it down for a fit snug. The concept is the same with rocks.
I find it far more likely that the limestone blocks for the pyramid were taken out of the limestone quarry, then smoothed down before being placed into the pyramid.
They had to be finely fitted to hold water, that’s how they raised them, on water in lochs coming from the Nile , the outer casing stones were placed first,they had to fit that close together that they would hold water back, the blocks have been cut , perhaps with wires, and waterwheel, lathe , water jet, or perhaps a cold laser device, or they simply got to finishing the sides closely with grinding and polishing etc, then they used floatation bladders attached to them to simply push them along to the first loch.and then raise them up into place by raising the loch, just like they do today in certain places.
sounds so simple too bad it wasnt build by egyptians. much of our history was lost in the burning of the ancient libraries, wonders of which, and history we will never know.
what was it? the earth was in a plasma sheet, a current of energy unleashed from the center of the milky way. the pyramids were likely harvesting energy out of thin air. magic consisted of crude windings and a gap.
why do the ancient prehistorical carved walls of caves in china seem so similar in finish to what modern mining machines would groove while carving rock? 100 years ago, they could not explain, but compared to modern, so similar, how?
they had to have this same technology, running on energy harvested from thin air. when the earth left this part, or the cosmic wave passed us, our machines stopped working, and then the cataclysm hit.
there were not enough people left to restart, they were worried about living day to day in this new world after the change. it took another 5 thousand years before we learned to harness motive power again. another 5 thousand before we discovered electricity and dynamos, and the motive power of hydrocarbons.
we are now set upon another technological age, and the next burst from the sun will render these inoperative, as will our energy grids, and then the next cataclysm will hit once more and wipe the slate clean. to start anew.
what will the new race resemble? pymy bushmen? african bedouin? innuit?
what has gone before, previous iterations of mankind. denisovan, neanderthal, boskop, and home sapien sapien.
do you really believe we only crawled out of africa after 40 thousand years , being as smart and modern as we are for the last 200 thousand? no we have been here before.
The Nazca lines offer a partial answer to this riddle. In Peru blocks were quarried and dragged back and forth for miles on gravel flat terrain to square them up. The proof is in how compressed the paths are. This also explains the thousands of "landing fields" scattered throughout the world.
That could never work. If a block was split at an angle to its other sides, dragging it would not square its angle to a right angle. It would only wear it down at the same angle, slanted.
@@redwoodcoast 2 blocks strapped together
Wow!
Your point is well taken but what now? There were and are saws that will cut when moist and the result would look smoother like the underlying blocks.
The only clean cut edges were in the interior it seems.If you closely look at the outside stones most are all are different sizes and mis shaped .
as you can see near the piramides, they used a plateau where they mold these blocks with wooden molds, when it hardens they cut it off and reuse it again, this will be quicker cuz they only had 3 minutes per stone to be placed for 20 years straight. and there is enough evidence that they used allot of water, water to mixture sandlike powder to make the blocks. the limestone quarry was to make the limestone powder or grevel, that easely exported by boat to the giza plateau
I wonder if maybe the stones without chisel marks where “cut” from the quarry using rock splitting? I built some very large koi ponds and in doing so had to remove some giant boulders. I split the boulders until they were small enough to remove. I split them by two techniques 1) was to pound on an existing crack, not controllable. 2) was to drill tiny holes in a line and then expert pressure on the holes. I did this with my chisel and hammer. However you could insert wood and let it expand. Or fill with water and let freeze. In modern times we would blow up the hole with a tiny charge. You would not ever want to cut stone completely with a saw or chisel as the wear and expense of tooling is prohibitive and it takes a long time. Splitting is cheap and fast.
True,, and yet it's maintained that chiseling was how it was done for thousands of years. It's an artform actually. Worse it's stated that granite was was quarried 4000 years ago using harder pounding stones ( I forget the exact type). But it's lunacy in my book. My ancestors didn't do that,, Oy.
Was it cut with a saw ?
There is a timeline fracture not addressed: 5.5 million stones moved into place during 20 years = 175,200 hours.
It is claimed that the pyramids were built in 20 years. That is a lot of blocks being placed every hour! 31.4. Every hour, good weather or bad. How many people working around the clock would it take to put them in place?
Whichever method of making the stones was used, that is still an unbelievable amount of work done in a short time.
They MUST have ordered it at Amazon! 😁
Wouldn't dragging the heaviest limestone blocks on a road made of limestone blocks sand them both smooth? They might've just kept rotating every road block until all sides were smoothed in order to fit into the pyramid perfectly and to size.
The remaining sanded road blocks would be numbered just right to perfectly complete the pyramid project.
Cut marks and chisel marks would have been left on the quarried areas only. All other blocks would've had the chisel marks 'road-sanded' away.
Hahahahahahahaha
Hyenas tend to follow lions looking for scraps.
most of the time when someone talks about the pyramid construction and things that don't add up, you find out they missed some researcher who has already worked on it and offered reasonable explanations.
I am in full agreement with you that the ancient people of S. America had "rock melting" technology/abilities. Our current "experts" just don't have the imagination it takes to conceive of such a thing... But, I digress.
That said, regarding the part of your vid that talks about why they didn't "melt" the bedrock, I don't know why they didn't either.
However, I believe they *could have,* but didn't-- probably for more practical reasons...
Like, maybe if they did, their whole multi-ton building project might have sunk into the locations they were building... Or slid off the mountainsides... Who knows?
The reason I believe this, is because of various anomalies like *the Amaru Muru "Peruvian star gate."*
When you examine these sights, it looks like they "melted" the entire "cliff-side" and then "pressed" a giant "stamp" into the rock... Like a gigantic wax seal from the Middle Ages...
Great video! 😎👍
Building giant furnace out the pillers of fire in Israel
Maybe there was a buffer material that also kept it from falling apart
can't they tell from composition where the blocks came from?
you know, one of the problems I have with showing these old chisel marks as evidence of chisel work is this....... these marks are remarkably long, as if one stroke of a mallet produced enough force to send a chisel some 20 inches down the face of a block.....this is just not how humans chisel limestone.... try it yourself....tell me, can you make more than a 2 inch continuous chisel mark and move any stone, and can you keep a pointed chisel working on a large flat plane easily.....cause you see, those chisel marks you present, they aren't from a flat chisel, I can assure you that.......
Made with the mind
Limestone in the ground is soft and cuts easily, splits well, it gets harder as it dries. Shouldn't have needed much chiseling, more of a scraping. Somebody pointed out that matching the chemical make up of the stone and the quarry would settle the question easily.
If there really is a subterranean city beneath the Giza plateau, then these stones could have been quarried from hollowing out the bedrock.
Or the mountain carved to blocks and restacked 200 ft "to the east or whatever direction". FLAT plataeu.
No wonder they changed the comment section. So we can't let people know not to waist their time watching something that has no information
Maybe the sources originally did not have the chisel marks and were added later to suit the narrative.
mate,,buddy,,watch. revalation of the pyramids..
They're also hold high quartz content, theres granite on the inside, the internal structure is made entirely out of pink granite
Yes it is. 1.5% of Khufu's pyramid is Granite.
It's time to step back and reevaluate what we've been taught about our past. Many things are not adding up. Out of place artifacts, stone cutting and construction techniques, etc. Anyone with an open mind who looks at the evidence may very well come to another conclusion. Are these megalithic structures scattered around the globe far older than the dates assigned and did something catastrophic occur at some point. Over 1,200 different cultures and ancient civilizations had stories of a great deluge which left but a remnant. Surviving ancient manuscripts speak of a golden age long ago with fantastic technologies and wonders. Perhaps there's more to these stories than just being the myths and legends. Just a thought
Economy of labor and all of the many stones would imply using the nearest quarry or quarries. I have not the slightest doubt that the ancient Egyptians built the pyramids by force of will using ancient tools and materials and eternal mathematical principles and that we could do it today if our society had sufficient motivation and an available quarry with enough material in it.
I believe a lot of the old megalithic structures were pored in place like concrete . I have thought this for a long time . It is the easiest way to move that much weight up to the height it was needed . You could bring as little or as much product up the side of the pyramid as you needed and pore it.
There is no way the Egyptians could have melted down granite or basalt to pour into place. No kiln could achieve that temperature. No was it big enough.
The picture of the one main face looks severely weathered, some newer replacement blocks in other views. I surmise the original pyramid was heavily weathered and then capped, kind of like cabinet refacing.
Yes. That is so true. I can’t believe others haven’t noticed this too.
Limestone, when broken into little pieces, can be "recycled" just like cement. So, instead of sawing hefty blocks out of limestone quarry with soft copper saws and dragging them over loose desert sand across vast distance, they were simply chipped off as rubble (as evidenced by those chisel marks in the quarry), then carried in manageable size in baskets (or by the cartload if the Egyptians knew about wheels) to the pyramid building site.
= SOLVED: No special tools needed. No pulling of massive blocks. No massive labor force needed.
These baskets of rubble were then passed upwards from one man to another on each level as the layer rose higher and higher, to be cast into blocks.
= SOLVED: No massive ramps needed to be built to drag huge block of limestones upward. In reality, no real strenuous works needed to be performed.
And 100s of blocks on the same level could be cast at the same time at different spots, as long as they are not next to one another. Thereafter, the sides of dried blocks could then act as part of the casting mold for the next block (which explains why you can't even put a blade between 2 blocks). And once a segment of a level had hardened, the next level can proceed to be built upon it!
=SOLVED: 20 years is easily doable! No extra works needed to polish, move and align its sides to perfection.
Now those granite blocks are another different problem, which once solved, should remove the mystery of the megalithic stones...
The limestone blocks were not chiseled. Instead, a bar of bronze was used in conjunction with sand as the cutting teeth. A flat face bar of bronze with sand cuts right through limestone quickly. I watched two older men hew a 4 foot by 4 foot cube of limestone using this method in about an hour, very near the Giza plateau.
There is a primary reason that limestone was used, and the location (the Giza plateau) was chosen because of the foundation of limestone. Recall that those three pyramids were built deliberately to be watertight. Great effort was made to make them watertight. They needed to be watertight...because they were water features. The limestone filtered the water, to make it suitable for drinking. If one drank straight from the Nile, bad things would happen.
The pyramids acted as giant water hammer pumps. (If you do not know what that is or how they work, research them) They pumped clean, drinkable water through the limestone foundation, the bedrock. Almost like magic.
All the mechanics of the water hammer pump system are still there too, but you just need know what you are looking and try to exercise your imagination. There was something else going on too, result of electrons being worked as the water moved through the limestone, electricity may have been harvested...but I think it was just returned to ground as they didn't really know what else to do with it. (Conjecture, I know, not always the best to suggest, but maybe it will help the discussion)
No ET needed. No extra-dimensional beings. No ultra-high-tech civilization needed. No whiz-bang laser beams.
Guttered 😔
I looked them up, the pyramids are definitely missing the upper check valve at bare minimum- neither control valve which may or may not be totally necessary and I couldn't find a single reference to erosion from the flow of water anywhere inside the pyramid. If you have moving water- you have wear, especially if the water is under any kind of pressure. I only bothered to look because I'm a lowly plumber of 30 years.
@@henryknox4511 The wear is in the subterranean chamber. You clearly haven't studied the Great Pyramid much.
@@crazy8sdrums Uh huh- there would be wear everywhere the water flowed...I have studied leaks all my working life, and the pyramid for the last 20~ years lol.
@@henryknox4511 The internal passages are lined with granite...and they do show wear. I suspect that it only pumped water for a couple hundred years.
I did enjoy your video. It is very refreshing to see an intellectual mind at work. That is an important aspect that many are lacking in this recent time/space distortion. The latest hypothesis i have seen on the construct of the Pyramids, is the atmosphere at that time was more energetic due to the planets and the Sun being closer together. The electric universe theory shows the model of that spacing of planets would act as a Tesla coil causing massive electrostatic arcing from planetary bodies, giving rise to gigantic life on Earth, and causing the gravitational restriction to be far less than it is now. The "Cyclopian" builders of that time supposedly were giants who used a parabolic mirror and refracted quartz lenz to direct beams of condensed Sunlight to melt Limestone and cast on sight. A stone wheel devive was placed on a copper rod and Baghdad batteries were used to energize the rod's to make the magnetic wheel spin, the builders used the wheel to screed the molten Limestone to a smooth block and repeated the process.
WHAT.???.. wrong.. the earth had more oxygen,before all the cataclysms, that,is why you had dinosaurs & giants,huge trees, ect. now, with our atmosphere,we are stunted..look into breathing oxygen,you heal quiker,& live longer. people do this while they sleep. fact..thats why when you have smoke inhalation,,they give you oxygen..another fact,,they never tell you..
@@harrywalker5836 beautiful insight Harry, I never made such claim about oxygen levels, or even brought attention to oxygen levels. Your addendum to my point is correct, oxygen levels were much higher, and a fine addition to more energetic atmosphere. Thanks mate, have a great day.
This is the best episode of Ancient Alien's I have ever seen. I hope they come back someday to tell us how they built the great pyramid and cut the stones so smooth, I'm thinking lazar's,, definitely lazar's.
LAZERS?
Is there not a single limestone pyramid block that is smooth on some sides but has chisel marks on the others?
they should all theoretically have chisel marks on 4 sides,, and wedge marks on the last two.
Wait 2 minutes and the ice-cream in your bowl is gonna look smooth. Chisel your blocks off and wait 4000 years. Blocks are smooth. Weathering and Erosion. Alternative heating and cooling cause exfoliation of the exposed surfaces. Rain, wind, blown sand. Ever seen a sandblasting machine in action? There's probably 5 or 6 factors, minimum, that cause NATURAL smoothing, assuming that it wasn't done purposely.
And where is the chips removed from these blocks when squared to size?There should be huge piles of chips.
chips? do you mean limestone sand/dust? Have you seen photos of Egypt? Lol
@@intriguingmegalithicperspe1764 Yes, it was underfoot. When a block of stone, even Sandstone, is dressed there are chips as well as particles as small as dust.
All the blocks came from underground, When they built the great underground city of Egypt all the spoils were arranged in the most efficient way possible to store spoils. There are many other underground city's that have no trace of were the spoils went. If they keep the Pyramids a mystery, we won't question the great hall of records under Egypt.
Didn't the builders of the earlier pyramids use mostly mud brick? (e.g. red and bent pyramids)
I wonder why they would have changed from an easy to handle material like bricks, to pieces of stone requiring a dozen men to move and place? Or even a hybrid work of stone and mud. It is almost as if they said, "Hey, let's make it really tough on us this time!"
Red and Bent are limestone
The "earlier pyramids" are the big ones, which were built by beings prior to "Egyptians".
Khemet? Atlantean? Nothing that 19th & early 20th Century antiquarian concluded about BC History is accurate.
Sphinx & Great Pyramids undoubtedly are >11,000 years. Star alignments thought to match about 36,000 ya.
The builders were not using copper nor bronze tools to cut.
I believe you are correct, earlier step pyramids, it's been theorized, were pyramids they improved from. I believe their "secret" was the ability to make limestone concrete. Perhaps all their stonework (marble, obsidian, quartz) was poured in some fashion, we just don't know how it was done. Perhaps that knowledge/equipment was pilfered and that is the reason. Dr. H is still in charge over there, so... you know.
Red and Bent are near the Black Pyramid, which the gov doesn't let u get anywhere nere near. The Bent Pyramid is VERY different. Going inside is actually terrifying. From the inside it looks like it was blown to bits and rebuilt. Nothing like the others. Djosers Pyramid is not like a Pyramid inside. Completely different than all others. I don't buy its the first one. Seems like it's later
@@DReyesNYC the stones look quarried
Thanks for the video! Some say it was cast in situ using a lost geopolymer technique
Eh, don't get your hopes up. It really is the most simple solution to almost all the impossible megalith structures. Softened or mixed rock is almost certainly the answer. You'd think the experts would've accounted for this year's ago, but apparently not
@@QuixEnd how were the needed temperatures achieved? Isn't that an advanced technology we can't reproduce as well?
Yah,, I don't beieve in geopolymers that last longer than concrete. They don't exist. If they did, then I could buy geopolymer blocks at home depot. Megalithic works are all real stone,, let's just accept that much of the mystery.
With all the geopolymer comments,, I think I'll do a video on that topic someday,,,,
It is not only that, but have you realized how you get the stones with sizzles so exactly square that they exactly fit. So exactly that you have a structure that stand stable after even millenia.
OK then where are all the stones from the quarries?
Its possible the limestone be reproduce by ancient chemical technique like concrete
extracted limestone transport via river as we know, then go to production around the construction area
Your video showed a graphic of blocks being moved with rollers. They ancients used skids in the pyramid era.
The scoop marks , don’t forget the circular saw marks on blocks . The mids are far far older than current perception allows at least 35 thousand or hundreds of thousands of years old . That there is a problem , that These sites not just in the sand but all over the world show machining marks and the Finds that do not Mach the time line . There is enough evidence of a lost technologically civilisation. My favourite is a seventh sentry carving in a Hindi Temple of a modern day bicycle with chain drive , and for it to be carved in a Temple it must have been a prised artefact from a far older time. The Dashka Stone which is a 3 De map of the Urals date at 1 . 20 Million years plus which shows dams , that had to be present for hydroelectric purpose.
Did Neanderthals get their power saws at Lowes or Home Depot?
@@Oddball5.0 The concept of the knuckle dragging Neanderthal has started to change . With the Intelligent , I bet you know the price of power tools at Home Depot.
@@martingilvray06 I don't actually. We only have Lowes where I live.
@@Oddball5.0 Nice one🇬🇧👍
@@Oddball5.0 On a more serious not , the brain capacity on the Neanderthal was larger and Civil engineering and the Environmental impact is my game . I have found all over the world remnants of fossilised heavy retentions. Weather this was us or another Race I don’t think in our lifetime we if ever will get answers.
The people who built the big pyramid, awesome construction feat from many points of view, obviously, as you rightly demonstrate, is not the same people who chiseled (with so sim
... simple tools) the same quarry
Limestone blocks go very soft when damp. Perhaps the chisel marks were easily brushed off when damp, before the limestone blocks hardened due to exposure to air..
Limestone does come a wide variety of hardnesses and compression strengths. Great Example: the remaining capstones on Khafre's pyramid are limestone. And look at em'! They're 4600 years old! I have a couple zoomed in photos and they still look great!
Limestone runs from Talc (0.5) to 4 on the Mos hardness scale.
At minute 2:58 you show a picture of blocks that are smooth from cracking apart.. There are no chisel marks.
The answer is rather simple and has been brought to light on RUclips before. The Pyramids are not made of chiseled limestone blocks. They’re made of blocks of poured limestone concrete.
Did they also pour blocks of granite and basalt? Or how about the enormous stone obelisks? One such obelisk was left in a quarry because it cracked and could no longer not be used.
The chisel marks in the quarry are from the very last finishing stones, the facing stones which were highly polished and cut at 90 degree angle. These facing stones were removed, except for the very top of one Pyramid. The exposed blocks are a softer sandstone and have been worn away by 4500 years of weathering, some of the blocks have lost two feet of their surface, along with any evidence of how they were quarried. What about the Basalt around the base of the Pyramids, talk about deluxe pavers! Cheers!
The limestones were not removed, they fell off to an earthquake, Also the stones look like that cause Muslims tried to destroy them under the orders of Al-Aziz Uthman who was the sultan of Egypt late in the 12th century.
A lot of theories, many questions, no conclusions, and the truth is we may never know.
The question I always ask myself is whether we could build a structure like this today...
The comments in here are just as compelling as the video!😁
Thank you! Another piece of evidence that the blocks are geopolymer concrete.
Right, and the builders made a mold for each one, 2+ million of them, and somehow managed to not crush the tiny sea shells embedded in the limestone while they made the slurry.
These stones were split off use wedges, so no chisel marks. The obelisks you refer to were chiselled out as one piece...and have the chisel markings...and stone markings.
You did not place the simplest of the questions, Where are all the chisels to cut 5.5 million blocks?
Limestone is soft and easy stone to polish marks