@@pius857Why do people always say that? Sometimes people just don't make videos for a while. It's not like they left. They're still here. Shut the fuck up about it and just take what you're given
That has always been the case. All the old stories are embellished. Sometimes because people couldn't remember the original story, sometimes because they wanted to make things seem more impressive.
One thing that’s important to note is that it’s very hard to judge distance and scale across featureless expanses of water. We typically rely on objects in the distance to help us interpret both. If I see a tree the size of an acorn on a hilltop to the east, and one the size of a barley grain to the west, I can guess the eastern hill is probably closer. I can also judge the size of a temple on either hillside in reference to the trees around them. This is impossible when what you are looking at is two large statues on a featureless lake-something the original architects probably knew, and might even have been counting on. I also wonder if, after many years, Herodotus just remembered poorly?
@@attilamarics3374 I know. I don’t really understand what you’re trying to communicate. Is there something about my comment you’re agreeing/disagreeing with?
I like to imagine the guides also telling him that the whole lake was dug by hand, they were like “yeah man this whole lake was dug completely by hand” and Herodotus was just like “Wow that’s incredible, I’m gonna put that in my book”
Absolutely legendary!… though I’m more inclined to believe in multiple sources of minor error over an insane game of telephone. Big H couldn’t read hieroglyphics… but how well did he understand his guides. How well did they understand the hieroglyphs… not insane to see “natural lake that was later reshaped my humans” becoming full on Man made. Maybe miscommunication in combination with “laziness”led to many of these confusing errors. (even though he had no obligation to do any of it and calling it lazy is fucked).
@@laara1426 Yeah people dont know that measurements were so many in these times. Each city state for example had its own. They were different from region to region pretty wildly.
While the pyramids of Lake Moeris didn't exist in the way Herodotus described, one interesting lost Pyramid yet to be found is that of Merikare, a king of the 10th Dynasty during the First Intermediate Period. We know he had a cult as we have priests up to the 12th Dynasty still venerating him, but we still have no idea where his pyramid actually is! Aside from that pyramid fact, great video as always :)
We have an idea, it's probably near the pyramide of Teti, in Saqqara, as all the priests of Merikare were also priests of Teti ^^ It's just that we haven't found yet the remains of his pyramid, so there's probably not a lot to found ^^'
@@krankarvolund7771 yeah we do have an idea that is in the area, and while it may not be a lot it will be important as it would be one of the few Heracleopolitan royal burials actually found
@@billywarren007 Yes, it would be important, it's always important to find new egyptian sites ^^ I just wanted to say that we don't have a great pyramide lost in the desert, Egypt have so much "mystery" and clickbait around her history, I think one should stay as factual and precise as possible, otherwise people just seems to lose their mind about that country's past ^^'
I remember watching you as a kid (8 or 10) and here I am watching you again (now 17). One of the only channels that I've stuck to not because of nostalgia but because your content is that good.
I respect your obvious love of history as it shows in the quality of your videos, which are extremely well done, my friend. Thank you for this, and all your previous videos. Remember to take time for yourself and unwind. ✌️ and ❤️ to all. 🤗
Just a complete guess, but I think there might be a possibility where nobody was actively lying: since the pyramids were across a large lake in a hot climate, could it have been that they appeared a lot taller due to a superior mirage?
This is absolutely, without a doubt, one of the best channels on youtube. Keep up the phenomenal work that you do here! Btw good video, kinda like the Colossus of Rhodes video, but more mysterious, i liked it.
Herodotus was one of many who said that the collosal pyramids with the Pharoahs atop was there at Meroe. This was at least 2400 years ago. Since then there have been numerous buildings built in that area, and the fact that these monuments are probably somewhere in a museum, or found locally in the vicinity. Remember, conquering nations usually rear down many of these exquisite artifacts, in order to build the base foundations of "their" buildings. An example of this is Heliopolis and the removal of the white limestone casings of the Ghiza Pyramids used to build the Roman forts. These casings had heiroglyphs all over them, and there ancient meanings are lost, remade, and can no longer be decifered. Great video though.
I would like to draw your attention regarding the possibility of an optical illusion. There are various monuments across the globe, near water bodies, where the actual size of the building appears to be much larger when you move away from them. The fact that this man was on the other side of the water body makes the possibility of this optical illusion considerable.
Wow, measurements systems of the past are really cool! Was searching if 1ft for Hierodotus was the same thing for us, and was surprised to see the different units that the Greeks had. I wonder how they remained the same after four millenia, and how it passed on to different cultures.
Things are often divided into twelves as you have four fingers with three pads each. You can use the thumb to touch each one and count up. Once you reach twelve you raise one finger of the other hand. It's apparently how we decided on 24 hour days, 60 seconds/minute, and 60 minutes/hour. Just multiples of twelve. There's more to the explanation but that's enough to start a rabbit hole lol.
@@SirTorcharite This is the first I've heard of the hand explanation. Even simpler is the divisibility of base-12, something that makes Customary actually a fairly good measurement system for regular use.
I can imagine being a historian, especially back then must be difficult when like half of your contemporaries use "it came to me in a dream" as their source
The correct song reference at the end was Christopher Cross's "Sailing." Song's about being swept away in your pan fantasy while out on the water; apparently that's what Herodotus did, too.
To nitpick, we don't know that Herodotos ever reached 60. ;) All that is known that he himself claimed to have had memories of the 480-478 BCE Persian invasion as a boy, but none from 490 BCE. So, from this it has been proposed that he was born around 485-484 BCE. He was certainly around still in 430 BCE and possibly as late as 425 BCE, although there are some doubts about that. Which is quite common with historical figures of his time. ;)
Hey so I’ve recently been watching how they built the pyramids, how do you think they were made? I’ve seen some interesting things having to do with water and buoyancy.
I question Herodotus's ability to measure 50 fathoms below the water level. I also question that the twin-double-sized pyramids would go missing through erosion and scavenging. Some of the Old Kingdom pyramids have been quarries for thousands of years and are still recognizable as at least oddly shaped hills.
I could imagine these things were probably deconstructed due to the pharoahs atop. I am sure there were a few periods where certain structures were destroyed completely.
imagine writing what some random big talking tour guide told you thinking you're doing your due diligence, only for people to debate your mistake for 2000 years after.
One of the reasons archaeologists think pyramids were tombs is that they’re found west of the Nile. People mostly lived on the east bank of the Nile, were buried west of the Nile. Mortuary temple are also east of the Nile. Crops were raised on both banks,it’s a quick trip by boat or raft across the Nile. Cities and towns were east. The two pyramids appear to be east of the Nile. Herodotus was incorrect so frequently, I wonder how much he relied on others’ reports he claimed he saw firsthand.
You started this video by showing us a photo of a man's face. His mouth is splattered in blood. I have a question. What is wrong with you? I have another question. What is wrong with all the people who saw this video and did not notice the photo of the man with blood all over his mouth?
@@-sanju-Who is Lilith? Adam's first wife? Am just some Westerner interested in ancient Egypt y'all!! Btw here's some picture of my face splattered with blood that I will flash for 2 seconds with zero explanation. This shit is beyond disgusting mentally ill fetish signaling. If you think this is art, I would recommend heading to your nearest hardware store and investing in a stool and three lengths of sturdy rope.
An impression I get from Herodotus was that his travels were a bit overplayed as well, which would help account for his mistakes/inaccuracies. Imagine if his journey through Egypt really only began and ended at Giza? And the rest of his accounts of the civilization were second-hand from locals he talked to? Not only would they be interested in overhyping their culture's achievements, many of them would in turn be relaying information they might not have verified first-hand. I think he definitely did travel, a lot, but probably not as much as his records would suggest, and definitely not as deep into the civilizations he visited (where finding a Greek-speaking tour guide would grow harder and harder).
That artist's depiction of the sphinx was incorrect, it's supposed to depict how the sphinx would've looked during the time ancient Greece existed, but clearly the nose isn't on the statue, the nose was destroyed by Egyptian peasants in 1378CE after they made an offering to the sphinx to control a flood which would be good for their crops, outraged Sa'im al-Dahr destroyed the nose and was later executed for vandalism
Out of curiosity, when he describes something as a “foot” in is books. Is he referring to the same unit of measurement Americans use? Like what was the actual word used.
Id also like to defend big H, he was also told stories and was happy to admit he was telling some stories too whether true or not. I think it's a great way to do a travel guide and give some history. Stories from the local people, I love that. You go big H
I always find it so curious that for most of history people looked at a thousand year old buildings or statues and never thought about them too much many generations coming and going, and living their lives around the slowly crumbling structures, having not interest in them the only time anyone paid attention to them is when they hoped there'd be treasures inside lol
It's actually very humbling to realise that a lot of Egypt's incredible wonders where already a thousand years old when this greek guy 2000 years ago went to visit. Just... the amount of time, the stories, the people. This channel always makes me want to travel back in time to see some of these places and people on their prime.
the Sphinx is so old that it was re-discovered by a Pharaoh of the later dynasties, after it was completely buried under the sand and more or less forgotten.
Given the pyramid of Giza were built at around the 2500's BC if my memory doesn't fail me, it would mean that by the time of Herodotus, they were already 2000 years old
Herodotus openly admitted that he recorded what people said more often than digging for deeper facts, because he was keenly interested in the stories people told. In essence, Herodotus wasn't the world's first historian, he was the world's first folklorist.
And that is pretty much how history was told back then. Unlike today, facts and fiction weren't separated. Long before writing stories were told from person to person. And since storytellers tend to embellish a bit, over thousands of years things got a bit exaggerated. In most historical reports is a piece of truth and a lot of flavour to make the truth seem more amazing.
You and I are closer to Cleopatra in time than she was to the people who built the pyramids. The people who built the pyramids would be even more ancient Egyptian than she is. Wow
The land was called kemet not Egypt , the Greeks came up with the name Egypt around 330B.C. Most information we know on Ancient kemet comes from Greek translation of Ancient African scripts
"yeah so I bet there'll be a bunch of pagans who commune at this oracle called reddit in 5000 years, lets just carve a dude with a sheep's ass for a head just to fuck with them lol"
Maybe if there actually turns out to be anything "wild" about them in the first place - the fact he gave some wrong figures on the size of pyramids he didn't measure himself and believed locals, when they told him a natural lake was manmade, aren't really overwhelming by the common standards of ancient histories...
Seems like so much of our mythology comes from people being honestly mistaken. That's why it's so hard for me to take any religion at face value, it just seems so much more likely to me that people were wrong when writing down these ancient stories rather than supernatural events actually happening. 🤷♂️ at least there doesn't seem to be people telling me that I should believe these pyramids existed exactly as described.
He has returned!!!
He always does.
@@pius857Why do people always say that? Sometimes people just don't make videos for a while. It's not like they left. They're still here. Shut the fuck up about it and just take what you're given
his last video was like two months ago 💀💀💀 honestly it wasn't that long of a wait
@@formersamonellaclone Trauma.
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It’s really endearing that even 2000 years ago tour guides were embellishing stories to their visitor
And people believed them. Timeless.
Egyptians been taking credit for somone else's work for a long Time.
That has always been the case. All the old stories are embellished.
Sometimes because people couldn't remember the original story, sometimes because they wanted to make things seem more impressive.
Wonderful presentation. Africa is home to many megalithic structures that deserve more attention.
Hello there north!
I subscribe to both of your channels, what a small world
It's always lovely to see the RUclipsrs we watch being part of the audience for once
Word! You mean actual people from Kemet, built their structures? Lol 👍👊🏿
DUDE YOU TWO SHOULD COLLAB, THAT WOULD BE AMAZING!!!
One thing that’s important to note is that it’s very hard to judge distance and scale across featureless expanses of water. We typically rely on objects in the distance to help us interpret both.
If I see a tree the size of an acorn on a hilltop to the east, and one the size of a barley grain to the west, I can guess the eastern hill is probably closer. I can also judge the size of a temple on either hillside in reference to the trees around them. This is impossible when what you are looking at is two large statues on a featureless lake-something the original architects probably knew, and might even have been counting on.
I also wonder if, after many years, Herodotus just remembered poorly?
The original writing says the pyramids were mostly submerged.
@@attilamarics3374 Hi Attila. I'm sorry, but I don't really understand what you're getting at here.
@@michaelbacon5278 They said its in the middle of the lake, and the egyptians said that most of it is under the water to Herodotus.
@@attilamarics3374 I know. I don’t really understand what you’re trying to communicate. Is there something about my comment you’re agreeing/disagreeing with?
@@michaelbacon5278 I just added to it.
I like to imagine the guides also telling him that the whole lake was dug by hand, they were like “yeah man this whole lake was dug completely by hand” and Herodotus was just like “Wow that’s incredible, I’m gonna put that in my book”
Absolutely legendary!… though I’m more inclined to believe in multiple sources of minor error over an insane game of telephone. Big H couldn’t read hieroglyphics… but how well did he understand his guides. How well did they understand the hieroglyphs… not insane to see “natural lake that was later reshaped my humans” becoming full on Man made. Maybe miscommunication in combination with “laziness”led to many of these confusing errors. (even though he had no obligation to do any of it and calling it lazy is fucked).
I like to picture them telling him that and then snickering amongst themselves while he excitedly writes it down
tour guides will never change
He wrote after the fact. And measurements were NOT in feet /inches as we know that measurement today.
@@laara1426 Yeah people dont know that measurements were so many in these times. Each city state for example had its own. They were different from region to region pretty wildly.
While the pyramids of Lake Moeris didn't exist in the way Herodotus described, one interesting lost Pyramid yet to be found is that of Merikare, a king of the 10th Dynasty during the First Intermediate Period. We know he had a cult as we have priests up to the 12th Dynasty still venerating him, but we still have no idea where his pyramid actually is! Aside from that pyramid fact, great video as always :)
Do you think this could become his next video? I'm very curious 🧐
@@JoseDaPrimo who knows, all I know is that it's the era that's going to be the focus of my Thesis when I start my masters in egyptology haha
We have an idea, it's probably near the pyramide of Teti, in Saqqara, as all the priests of Merikare were also priests of Teti ^^
It's just that we haven't found yet the remains of his pyramid, so there's probably not a lot to found ^^'
@@krankarvolund7771 yeah we do have an idea that is in the area, and while it may not be a lot it will be important as it would be one of the few Heracleopolitan royal burials actually found
@@billywarren007 Yes, it would be important, it's always important to find new egyptian sites ^^
I just wanted to say that we don't have a great pyramide lost in the desert, Egypt have so much "mystery" and clickbait around her history, I think one should stay as factual and precise as possible, otherwise people just seems to lose their mind about that country's past ^^'
I remember watching you as a kid (8 or 10) and here I am watching you again (now 17). One of the only channels that I've stuck to not because of nostalgia but because your content is that good.
I respect your obvious love of history as it shows in the quality of your videos, which are extremely well done, my friend. Thank you for this, and all your previous videos. Remember to take time for yourself and unwind.
✌️ and ❤️ to all. 🤗
Just a complete guess, but I think there might be a possibility where nobody was actively lying: since the pyramids were across a large lake in a hot climate, could it have been that they appeared a lot taller due to a superior mirage?
This is absolutely, without a doubt, one of the best channels on youtube. Keep up the phenomenal work that you do here!
Btw good video, kinda like the Colossus of Rhodes video, but more mysterious, i liked it.
"I guess like Tut-si-pop." You know, I can't even be mad, that was CLEAVER!
Holy shit XD haha that wasn't even intentional but I'm just going to say it was now
@@TREYtheExplainer That mind is as sharp as a sickle to not even do it on purpose.
Always a good day when Trey posts
Herodotus was one of many who said that the collosal pyramids with the Pharoahs atop was there at Meroe. This was at least 2400 years ago.
Since then there have been numerous buildings built in that area, and the fact that these monuments are probably somewhere in a museum, or found locally in the vicinity.
Remember, conquering nations usually rear down many of these exquisite artifacts, in order to build the base foundations of "their" buildings. An example of this is Heliopolis and the removal of the white limestone casings of the Ghiza Pyramids used to build the Roman forts. These casings had heiroglyphs all over them, and there ancient meanings are lost, remade, and can no longer be decifered. Great video though.
I don't have adblocker, so the split second of Vector at 1:39 before a random ad kicked it was absolutely hysterical.
Beautifully made video, really love the music and the pictures
I would like to draw your attention regarding the possibility of an optical illusion. There are various monuments across the globe, near water bodies, where the actual size of the building appears to be much larger when you move away from them. The fact that this man was on the other side of the water body makes the possibility of this optical illusion considerable.
Best credit song yet. 10/10. Got it perfectly first try.
Wow, measurements systems of the past are really cool! Was searching if 1ft for Hierodotus was the same thing for us, and was surprised to see the different units that the Greeks had. I wonder how they remained the same after four millenia, and how it passed on to different cultures.
Austrian yards
Things are often divided into twelves as you have four fingers with three pads each. You can use the thumb to touch each one and count up. Once you reach twelve you raise one finger of the other hand.
It's apparently how we decided on 24 hour days, 60 seconds/minute, and 60 minutes/hour. Just multiples of twelve.
There's more to the explanation but that's enough to start a rabbit hole lol.
@@SirTorcharite This is the first I've heard of the hand explanation. Even simpler is the divisibility of base-12, something that makes Customary actually a fairly good measurement system for regular use.
This is one of my favourite Herodotisms... although my very favourite and a very under-appreciated one is his tale of where cinnamon comes from.
I can imagine being a historian, especially back then must be difficult when like half of your contemporaries use "it came to me in a dream" as their source
I'm completely obsessed with the meme level of this video. Missed your content, Trey!
Also, the video editing in this is stepped up!!
Interestingly, a pyramid sticking out of the water would be quite consistent with the Egyptian creation myth.
The correct song reference at the end was Christopher Cross's "Sailing." Song's about being swept away in your pan fantasy while out on the water; apparently that's what Herodotus did, too.
To nitpick, we don't know that Herodotos ever reached 60. ;) All that is known that he himself claimed to have had memories of the 480-478 BCE Persian invasion as a boy, but none from 490 BCE. So, from this it has been proposed that he was born around 485-484 BCE. He was certainly around still in 430 BCE and possibly as late as 425 BCE, although there are some doubts about that. Which is quite common with historical figures of his time. ;)
Bro we need a musical episode after that final !!! The hype is real looool
Can’t blame a guy for making history his story
What if the real pyramids were the friends we made along the way?
And this is why I subbed, thanks again for what you do.
Hey so I’ve recently been watching how they built the pyramids, how do you think they were made? I’ve seen some interesting things having to do with water and buoyancy.
Trey, I need a Cryptid profile on Cadborosaurus. Since it's more of a speculative animal than a cryptid, I'd love to hear your thoughts.
Hurray, more pyramids!!!
Everytime Herodotus gets something right and is validated by time, I do a little arm pump for the guy.
Britain:"Got you nose!"
Egypt:"Ahh for fock's sake. Give me my nose back."
0:23 ????
I found it hilarious if the Egyptian guides exaggerated things to Herodotus in the same way North Korea Tourist guides exaggerates things to visitors
I always learn something new from Trey, and i look forward to seeing more about ancient history!
The decedent's of Herodotus's guides are still carrying on the fine tradition of lying to tourists in the 21st century !
the selfie at the beginning…. he can’t keep getting away with this!!!!!!
Ancient giant buildings disappearing can only have one explanation - ancient 9/11
Always happy to see a Futurama reference!
I question Herodotus's ability to measure 50 fathoms below the water level.
I also question that the twin-double-sized pyramids would go missing through erosion and scavenging. Some of the Old Kingdom pyramids have been quarries for thousands of years and are still recognizable as at least oddly shaped hills.
"How something as big as a pyramid can disappear"
*Shows Vector*
Maybe he meant 60.0
Wait, are you telling me that guy who wrote about human size ants may have made some factual inaccuracies?
I could imagine these things were probably deconstructed due to the pharoahs atop. I am sure there were a few periods where certain structures were destroyed completely.
“There's always a bit of truth in legends”
Ahsoka Tano
i finally can sleep. trey has returned
I was so fascinate with ancient Egypt when I was in grade school but nowadays Sumer and Akkad is my obsession
We still haven't found Sumer, only its sister cities like Lagash.
imagine writing what some random big talking tour guide told you thinking you're doing your due diligence, only for people to debate your mistake for 2000 years after.
Herodotus : "My source is that I made it the fuck up."
"What if I told you two of Egypt's greatest pyramids are missing?"
Me: "...Has anyone checked with the British?"
I’m always upset by Ancient Egyptian monuments that were destroyed by locals, what we have lost will forever be lost to greed and suspicion
One of the reasons archaeologists think pyramids were tombs is that they’re found west of the Nile. People mostly lived on the east bank of the Nile, were buried west of the Nile. Mortuary temple are also east of the Nile. Crops were raised on both banks,it’s a quick trip by boat or raft across the Nile. Cities and towns were east. The two pyramids appear to be east of the Nile. Herodotus was incorrect so frequently, I wonder how much he relied on others’ reports he claimed he saw firsthand.
no fayoum is west of the nile.
You started this video by showing us a photo of a man's face. His mouth is splattered in blood. I have a question. What is wrong with you? I have another question. What is wrong with all the people who saw this video and did not notice the photo of the man with blood all over his mouth?
It's just an artsy photo of Trey himself. There's really nothing more to it.
@@-sanju-Who is Lilith? Adam's first wife? Am just some Westerner interested in ancient Egypt y'all!!
Btw here's some picture of my face splattered with blood that I will flash for 2 seconds with zero explanation.
This shit is beyond disgusting mentally ill fetish signaling. If you think this is art, I would recommend heading to your nearest hardware store and investing in a stool and three lengths of sturdy rope.
the return of the king
“Sir…. They hit the second pyramid”
We did not "learn" pyramid building. We still don't know how they were built.
Aww no! Herodotus was bad enough to be on the History channel! 🤣
An impression I get from Herodotus was that his travels were a bit overplayed as well, which would help account for his mistakes/inaccuracies. Imagine if his journey through Egypt really only began and ended at Giza? And the rest of his accounts of the civilization were second-hand from locals he talked to? Not only would they be interested in overhyping their culture's achievements, many of them would in turn be relaying information they might not have verified first-hand. I think he definitely did travel, a lot, but probably not as much as his records would suggest, and definitely not as deep into the civilizations he visited (where finding a Greek-speaking tour guide would grow harder and harder).
That artist's depiction of the sphinx was incorrect, it's supposed to depict how the sphinx would've looked during the time ancient Greece existed, but clearly the nose isn't on the statue, the nose was destroyed by Egyptian peasants in 1378CE after they made an offering to the sphinx to control a flood which would be good for their crops, outraged Sa'im al-Dahr destroyed the nose and was later executed for vandalism
Can anyone explain what was going on when he zoomed in on the map to seemingly highlight Barka at 8:05?
Out of curiosity, when he describes something as a “foot” in is books. Is he referring to the same unit of measurement Americans use? Like what was the actual word used.
Ive never heard a forigner pronounce "Fayoum" so good
Mr. Pharaoh, we've seemed to have misplaced our pyramids. 💀
Watching Trey the explainer while being in a history lecture is peak
Hello guys. Ancient Egypt
Welcome back ^^
This should be retitled "Egypt's Lost Pyramids; the shit archaeologists have to go through because the guys there before thought they were helping."
“Pharaoh, there’s a second pyramid”
It may not have even been guides. Herodutus may simply have overestimated their size at that distance.
I can’t believe we’ve been lied to for 2 and a half thousand years.
the explainer is back
The almighty has returned! ❤🎉
Honestly more videos on africa would be very sweet i enjoyed this one loads
They really should’ve titled him, “Herodotus the Credulous”.
@1:30 I saw this before in a Despicable Me movie!
so glad this wasn’t a rise of kingdoms Ad
Uh oh, Make sure there's no plane coverage in the vicinity of these Pyramids.
Id also like to defend big H, he was also told stories and was happy to admit he was telling some stories too whether true or not. I think it's a great way to do a travel guide and give some history. Stories from the local people, I love that. You go big H
It's pretty interesting that essentially some tourist invented what we call "history".
The black pyramid is another one. It was supposedly next to the 3 on the giza plateau
Glad to CU back!
Heredotus with his crazy explanations
very cool video!
Sir, a second chariot has hit the pyramids
Mr pharaoh, there’s been a second chariot
9 seconds in and i immediately hit the like button
Trolling was prevalent 2000 year ago ;-)
Happy dinosaur month trey!
Thank you for your content, it is always so entertaining and well-researched! 🥹💚
It's just crazy to me their pyramids survived the great nuclear fallout
A local taxi driver told me that the pyramids are the work of a yellow helmed builder who went by the name of Bob
Herodotus, theres been a second plane...
Herodotus would’ve described drop bears
I always find it so curious that for most of history people looked at a thousand year old buildings or statues and never thought about them too much
many generations coming and going, and living their lives around the slowly crumbling structures, having not interest in them
the only time anyone paid attention to them is when they hoped there'd be treasures inside lol
It's actually very humbling to realise that a lot of Egypt's incredible wonders where already a thousand years old when this greek guy 2000 years ago went to visit. Just... the amount of time, the stories, the people.
This channel always makes me want to travel back in time to see some of these places and people on their prime.
A lot of them are a lot older than that. The pyramids at Giza were older to Cleopatra in her life than she is to us now.
the Sphinx is so old that it was re-discovered by a Pharaoh of the later dynasties, after it was completely buried under the sand and more or less forgotten.
why not 2001 years ago
Some were close to 3000 years old
Given the pyramid of Giza were built at around the 2500's BC if my memory doesn't fail me, it would mean that by the time of Herodotus, they were already 2000 years old
Herodotus openly admitted that he recorded what people said more often than digging for deeper facts, because he was keenly interested in the stories people told.
In essence, Herodotus wasn't the world's first historian, he was the world's first folklorist.
And that is pretty much how history was told back then. Unlike today, facts and fiction weren't separated. Long before writing stories were told from person to person. And since storytellers tend to embellish a bit, over thousands of years things got a bit exaggerated.
In most historical reports is a piece of truth and a lot of flavour to make the truth seem more amazing.
Recording what people said is pretty much the definition of a historian. you cant expect him to be a historian in the modern sense.
@@Dulc3B00kbyBrant0n He was more a folklorist than a historian. There's a difference in methodologies.
@@cheezemonkeyeatertoday. Stop thinking like someone born yesterday.
@@gianni_schicchi Start thinking.
It's insane that the Pyramids were already ancients in Herodotus time! We're still closer to him than he was to the Pyramids in his time - CRAZY!!!
Yep, that is nuts.
You’re not very good at math
Las tres p iramides son megaliticas. El resto de las step pirámides son copias
You and I are closer to Cleopatra in time than she was to the people who built the pyramids. The people who built the pyramids would be even more ancient Egyptian than she is. Wow
The land was called kemet not Egypt , the Greeks came up with the name Egypt around 330B.C. Most information we know on Ancient kemet comes from Greek translation of Ancient African scripts
Herodotus really did just write things down. Absolutely based I wish I could get away with not fact checking properly.
End then having everyone quote you, cherry picking all the way.
"Trust me bro"
Herodotus is the Chad of all Chad, I wish I had the same level of confidence as him
the perks of being a primary source
"yeah so I bet there'll be a bunch of pagans who commune at this oracle called reddit in 5000 years, lets just carve a dude with a sheep's ass for a head just to fuck with them lol"
Would be very cool to see a series chronicling Herodotus' various wild claims and how they relate to ancient mythology and contemporary archeology.
👀 I may or may not have plans to do that exact subject…
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Maybe if there actually turns out to be anything "wild" about them in the first place - the fact he gave some wrong figures on the size of pyramids he didn't measure himself and believed locals, when they told him a natural lake was manmade, aren't really overwhelming by the common standards of ancient histories...
Seems like so much of our mythology comes from people being honestly mistaken. That's why it's so hard for me to take any religion at face value, it just seems so much more likely to me that people were wrong when writing down these ancient stories rather than supernatural events actually happening.
🤷♂️ at least there doesn't seem to be people telling me that I should believe these pyramids existed exactly as described.
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