Helpful stuff. Thanks for doing this. I’m a new wow player and have one toon: g druid. Much fun but steep learning. Your series keeps me motivated when I’m “that guy” on a pug key.
The additional annoying thing about tank compared to healer is that you cant really cruise by being undergeared. I had timed 6s on my shaman healer with item level 590, and have personally seen a guy on disc priest heal a +8 at 588 (admittedly the guy was a huge pumper). Tank cant get away with those shenanigans.
Whenever I heal, I don't mind people not picking up the orbs in SV, I just gobble them up myself if nobody takes them and enjoy every heal being a full heal. Doesn't really matter if the shield phase takes a little longer if people can't die to it.
youre 100% right about the dps/healer pulling for you. unless you as a tank ask for it they should never do it. its not like youre trying to do the dungeon slow and its not like it matters in keys below +12 either way
Nice! I also used to do this pull on dawnbreaker 2nd lieutenant when you first pull mobs before the stairs, and the exact same thing kept happening when DPS just fly straight into lieutenant and pull them as well... I honestly just gave up and started pulling leitenant as everyone does. Tbf on keys like +10 people getting good at avoiding accident pulls so it's usually fine. Also asking everyone to switch to classic flight style helps a lot
I full understand the wanting to pull the packs before the lieutenant the reason why people dont is because the pack is rough and you blew Cds on the last lieutenant and had a pack between to cds come back up. Many people lust there because it lines up. Playing safe is never bad and you can time keys doing it but you get a lot for pulling that with CDs.
people dont know how to play mechanics... its really sad thats people still give a fuck. :( I'm actually hardstuck at 9s and 10s, many keys getting fucked up because people dont know what a mechanic do. even with people who are doing already 20 keys on 10+. stonevault is a good example. i had a healer who healed already 12+ stonevault and you think he know when do the dispels. absolutly no. He fucked up every single time of the Tank buster. I got the debuff, he dispels. i told him 3 times i need the buff for the tank buster. after the 3rd wipe he told me to fuck up and left the group. boralus last boss, healer doesnt dispel one of the dot and is crying about thats nobody used his cd as dd. but they did and used everything they had. first island is done and boss had to be shot.... nobody want it to do and told me i should do it as tank... guess how fast they died. :) even after i told them i had to be on the other island to get melee from the tentacle, they dont care. i run the week 10-15 or more keys and sometimes i dont finish one of the keys. i'm really frustraded and getting terrified to go into the next key, because i already know what will happen.
man i always hate when DPS players pull for me.... like dude i would pull big if i had cds and the worst part is then they blame me for dying to a pull that the other tank they had at somepoint lived thru
Helpful stuff. Thanks for doing this. I’m a new wow player and have one toon: g druid. Much fun but steep learning. Your series keeps me motivated when I’m “that guy” on a pug key.
The additional annoying thing about tank compared to healer is that you cant really cruise by being undergeared. I had timed 6s on my shaman healer with item level 590, and have personally seen a guy on disc priest heal a +8 at 588 (admittedly the guy was a huge pumper). Tank cant get away with those shenanigans.
Whenever I heal, I don't mind people not picking up the orbs in SV, I just gobble them up myself if nobody takes them and enjoy every heal being a full heal. Doesn't really matter if the shield phase takes a little longer if people can't die to it.
youre 100% right about the dps/healer pulling for you. unless you as a tank ask for it they should never do it. its not like youre trying to do the dungeon slow and its not like it matters in keys below +12 either way
Nice!
I also used to do this pull on dawnbreaker 2nd lieutenant when you first pull mobs before the stairs, and the exact same thing kept happening when DPS just fly straight into lieutenant and pull them as well... I honestly just gave up and started pulling leitenant as everyone does. Tbf on keys like +10 people getting good at avoiding accident pulls so it's usually fine. Also asking everyone to switch to classic flight style helps a lot
I full understand the wanting to pull the packs before the lieutenant the reason why people dont is because the pack is rough and you blew Cds on the last lieutenant and had a pack between to cds come back up. Many people lust there because it lines up. Playing safe is never bad and you can time keys doing it but you get a lot for pulling that with CDs.
people dont know how to play mechanics... its really sad thats people still give a fuck. :(
I'm actually hardstuck at 9s and 10s, many keys getting fucked up because people dont know what a mechanic do. even with people who are doing already 20 keys on 10+. stonevault is a good example. i had a healer who healed already 12+ stonevault and you think he know when do the dispels. absolutly no. He fucked up every single time of the Tank buster. I got the debuff, he dispels. i told him 3 times i need the buff for the tank buster. after the 3rd wipe he told me to fuck up and left the group.
boralus last boss, healer doesnt dispel one of the dot and is crying about thats nobody used his cd as dd. but they did and used everything they had. first island is done and boss had to be shot.... nobody want it to do and told me i should do it as tank... guess how fast they died. :) even after i told them i had to be on the other island to get melee from the tentacle, they dont care.
i run the week 10-15 or more keys and sometimes i dont finish one of the keys. i'm really frustraded and getting terrified to go into the next key, because i already know what will happen.
man i always hate when DPS players pull for me.... like dude i would pull big if i had cds and the worst part is then they blame me for dying to a pull that the other tank they had at somepoint lived thru
Deal with it is a leveling dungeon dude