Simon, follower for about a year now across your channels and platforms. This channel is almost to 1M subscribers… well deserved, congratulations and thank you.
George W Bush held what was supposed to be a week-long conference in 2001 in hopes of resolving the dispute. It ended after a few hours, and on his way out he said to Colin Powell, “I don’t ever want to hear about this again!”
For some of the people making ignorant assumptions in the comments. The Armenians of Artsakh (as it was known since ancient times) or Mountainous/Nagorno Karabakh have a history of self-rule going back 1000 years. The Principality of Khachen (821-1000), Kingdom of Artsakh (1000-1261), the Principality of Khachen (1261-1601), the Principalities/Melikdoms of "Khamsa" (1601-1822), Russian empire abolished local titles in 1822-1918, the Armenian National Council of Karabakh (1918-1920), the Nagorno Karabakh Autonomous Oblast/Region from 1921-1991, and the Republic of Artsakh (1991-2023). This area had been self-ruled by local Armenians for nearly 1200 years.
I think Simon deserves praise for beginning this retrospective by reminding us that Armenia and Azerbaijan alike did truly horrible things to one another, where as many others who discuss this conflict either gloss over Armenia's more sinister actions or outright ignore them to paint Azerbaijan far less favorably. It's important to recognize that sometimes, there's no real good guy in these situations.
There might be no good guy but there surely is a right guy, which in the case of this conflict is Azerbaijan since the territory is internationally recognized as hers, borders are defined by international law and any medieval minded country that goes against it is by definition THE AGRESSOR
Because that's what you think when you listen it at face value. The first war was started by Azerbaijan and Azerbaijan alone, people were blockaded to starve in the late 80s and military was used against them, when you face such a thing, you either pick up arms or you die, so that's what they did. That's like Russia crying over of its lands being occupied by Ukraine after it started the war. Remember, the azerbaijani president openly admitted he was offered the 7 regions back in return for a peace deal but he refused them, he wanted to solve it by war and that's what he did. I wish I can share links here, but don't push bothsidism just on the surface without going into the details on each step on how things got there.
@@ca7971 in my experience, Simon isn't obviously right or left wing, but if you forced me to choose one, I'd say he leans a bit to the left. Overall though, I'd describe Simon as a pragmatist more than anything. He doesn't think of political parties like sports teams and advocates for policies on a case by case basis. In short, he's one of the good ones.
''We have forgotten how we lost the First Republic of Armenia. There was the Turkish-Russian cooperation. There also was the pursuit of the Treaty of Sevres. Then, as now, we became obsessed with our dreams instead of focusing on the possible, and we lost part of what was possible. More, we lost our independence. In other words, all of this was predictable and predicted.'' - Gerard Libaridian (US-Armenian historian and diplomat, advisor to the first president of Armenia between 1991-1997, deputy foreign minister, one of the main negotiators with Turkey and Azerbaijan over the NK issue)
I wish he had gone into more detail on the falling out between Russia and Armenia as a result of this conflict. That consequence deserves to be talked about.
As I recall, Nagorno-Karabakh was made an autonomous oblast of the Azerbaijani SSR by Stalin (despite being mostly inhabited ethnic Armenians) as part of a “divide and rule” strategy that would keep the other Soviet Republics from resisting Moscow’s rule. It’s also the reason for the three-way border dispute between Uzbekistan, Kyrgyzstan, and Tajikistan.
This conflict proly did not get attention because of its naturally confusing baseline. A psudeo-state that is not recognized attacked by the state that should technically own it (by international borders at least). With both main parties being small local nations that seldom get headlines anyway. With both parties not appearing as easy good guys, its just not a particularly sexy story. I think if Baku pulled the trigger on a full war thou, media attention might finally have swung. In any case, this is just a unfortunate situation all around and i doubt even with a peace treaty that this is the last round to this mess.
The conflict didn't get attention because Azerbaijan was simply restoring it's territorial integrity you know the way Ukraine's currently doing with Russia being the Armenian correspondant
@@0816M3RC😂😂😂 Armenians in southern Georgia have lived there for centuries I guess Georgia should be scared because irredentism is a religion in Armenia.
I think Armenia is right to crack down on the attempts to form a Nagorno government in exile. If allowed to fester it could eventually form into a Hezbollah like organization that could cause a great deal of border tension with Azerbaijan. Just like what we are seeing in Israel and Lebanon currently.
@@kristaporkhach I am not saying it isn't but there are quite a few similarities. Armenia is a country that no longer wants to engage in aggression with their neighbor since the balance of power has shifted in Azerbaijan's favor. While being forced to play host to the vast majority of the dislocated refugees that now see their homeland as occupied by their regional enemies who have largely settled on their border with Azerbaijan. It is not hard to see how with this situation can snowball into militias and radicalized groups that seek to reclaim what they have lost. The seeds for a Hezbollah organization forming are there if allowed to take root.
@@tylerpetersen6226 I still don’t see the similarities, Hezbollah is a political group, not a people, and it was not ousted from its homeland. Armenia did not engage in aggression, the Armenians of NK, voted for independence and were met with violence that then became a full fledged war. Armenians in general would like to see NK back under Armenian control, but aren’t willing to initiate a war they know they cannot win at this moment in time.
@kristaporkhach No Hezbollah is a military organization that eventually formed an ideology of the destruction of Israel. If you go to the very early start of Hezbollah was largely formed in Jordan before they caused a whole bunch of problems for the Jordanian government that resulted in a crackdown forcing Hezbollah out of Jordan and refocus their efforts in Lebanon. Nasrallah was key in establishing legitimacy for the Hezbollah organization by focusing on fostering political aspirations and public goodwill in Lebanon in an infiltration tactic to stop a repeat of what happened in Jordan. Its gotten to the point where no leader of Lebanon can do what Jordan did to Hezbollah without serious resistance and the potential of starting a civil war. Now imagine if a government in exile was able to form with the ideology of take back NK which according to some estimates 90% of its population flee to Armenia last year and a vast majority have settle close to the border. And it becomes the goal of this exiled government to gather assets to take back NK by any means for the next 20-40 years, meanwhile the Armenian government wants peace but a portion of the population has sympathy for the refugees. You could see this exiled government become another nonstate military organization causing border friction with Azerbaijan prompting another war with a much more powerful nation. Just like what we are seeing now in Israel/Lebanon. This is why I think it is wise for the Armenian government to crackdown now and focus on assimilating the refugees and not let these aspirations form because this is a potential outcome if left unaddressed.
The Armenians of Nagorno-Karabakh have been forced to abandon their ancestral homes for fear of ethnic cleansing, while Azerbaijan has inherited land that’s been all but completely abandoned that doesn’t have much in overall value. Seems like nobody really won in the end. And please keep in mind that I’m trying to remain as neutral as possible here. This is just my personal opinion, and forgive me if I’m ultimately incorrect.
@@bluraggon6674do you mean desolate as in Sahara dessert desolate or desolate as in America being desolate of native Americans and European settlers taking over their Land. pls elaborate.
Armenia could have negotiated a border treaty with Azerbaijan 20 years ago when it had the upper hand. The decades long conflict was an incredible waste of lives and material.
If a piece of paper was all that was necessary, Ukraine wouldn't be at war. We all know how valuable a piece of paper is to politics. The resentments held by both sides were there from the beginning, and there is no one action that could've prevented it. What happened was a tragedy of blindness. The entire world looked away even when they knew what was happening.
That level of destruction of an entire culture and any sign of its existance has been happening to Serbian culture and herritage in Kosovo since early 2000s and still goes on sadly.
1:31 Dude, the Armenian-inhabited territories in Nagorno-Karabakh were completely surrounded by Azer-inhabited towns and villages. They were making semi-autonomous ethnic enclaves within seperate republics exactly because the demographic make-up of the southern Caucasus was made up of ethnic enclaves all over the place.
"For all they that take the sword shall perish with the sword." Armenians couldn't imagine a world where Russia wouldn't or couldn't rescue them from the consquences of their own actions. Now they have only begun to pay it's price.
Thank you so much for the follow up! That conflict is more complex than it seems and to describe it thoroughly would take hours. I just want to note that this dispute was existential for Armenians (the result speaks for itself) and territorial for the other side.
Karabakh is the UN recognized territory of Azerbaijan just how Donetsk, Luhansk, and Crimea are for Ukraine, you can't "conquer" your own territory at most "reconquer"
You really shouldn't look up what the actual UN recognized territory of Israel actually is then. Because if that is the logic you use for these things, then that makes what's going on now REAL interesting!
It is strange. In recent history, Armenia fell under the Russian geopolitical sphere of influence. The west, leaving this situation to Russia to police and deal with as it saw fit, demonstrated no interest whatsoever in involving itself during the pandemic. Russia, the only group that might’ve cared to intervene in this conflict (being a member of the same regional security group of nations as Armenia which is similar in scope to NATO) was thoroughly occupied with their own military operations in Ukraine at the time, and provided little support, amongst a backdrop of already recent weak Russian-Armenian relations. The East only cared about this region and it’s issues because it benefited them (China’s Belt and Road initiative could now expand in another direction, so they preferred an Azeri victory). These reasons are why the world turned a blind eye and demonstrated little to no care towards this conflict 😅
Hey Simon, is your footage open source? Or are you subscribed to a news wire? The production values are phenomenal, even when the content like this is emotionally devastating.
YES. Let's completely ignore the fact that just like Nagorno-Karabakh, Southern part of modern-day Armenia (Zangezur) has been "given" to Armenia, although the majority of the population there has always been and at the moment still was Azerbaijani.
Bro can you really not follow that your logic is so incredibly flawed?Armenians have lived in that region when the ancestors of Azeris still lived in Central asia. Stop making excuses.
@@RK-cj4oc Native Americans lived in America when the ancestors of modern day Americans were still in Europe, Africa and Asia. Does that mean we should give the land back to the Native Americans just because they lived on the land a little bit longer than the modern Americans, who themselves have lived on the land for well over 400 years?
Armenia could’ve negotiated better when they had the upper hand, UN tried multiple times to bring peace to the region and Armenia to give back the land they illegally occupied. But a piece of paper is more valuable to the politicians than people dying
The explanation is cos people only care about the things that directly affect their country. If the US and Russia werent involved with israel and palastine, nobody would give a shit about that either. Its human nature for people to not care or be empathetic to things that dont directly affect their own small environments. If it wasnt, thered be more done about the wars globally than just the 2 that seemingly exist currently.
Wanna talk about the erasure pf the British Anglo Saxon heritage? Do they need to start fighting against the government for you to call for a stop in your own homeland Simon?
I remember when Putins haters , when Russia was on Armenia side, used to say that Nagorno karabach is Azerbaijan historic land, and armenia is erasing the history. Now Putins haters suddenly switched side 😂. No matter what - blame Putin
I tried searching on RUclips if you’ve made a video on the thaad air defense system. If there is one someone plz let me know if there isn’t that would be cool to watch.
The only issue I have is that there is no talk about how the Armenians destroyed cultural centers of Azerbaijanis who fled Nagorno-Karabakh after the war that saw Armenia take control of the region. By the way, unlike the Azerbaijanis who were forced to flee under the threat of death, the Armenians were at least given the choice of staying under the Azerbaijani citizenship.
Bro i am ur fan so far and watched all your videos and u always seem objective but somehow in this particular case you got it totally wrong. First of all you trying to focus full attention on refugees from Armenia but what about our refugees that 600,000 that have been refugees for almost 30 years what about their pain and suffering? Only difference was they left volunteering nobody MADE them go. Our government said become Azerbaijan citizens and stay which is totally legit thing to say what you mean they gonna stay here in Azerbaijan jurisdiction and dont take our documents and be like Armenian citizen or something? How do you imagine that happening? So they collectively choose to leave which i respect i wouldn't wanna live under Armenia either you know? But we in 90s didn't left like that our people ran bare foot during February and then Xocalı massacre happened and after Xocali Massacre civilian population of that 7 regions mass ran to Baku destabilising already weak Azerbaijan. I mean to a person who is from Azerbaijan and been through all that shit this video seems such a ARMENIAN PROPAGANDA
"After leaving their mark on the region for centuries" - no, rather, "after leaving their mark on the region for millennia" (this is not an insignificant nuance for historical credibility)
Let’s just hope Azerbaijan doesn’t destroy any historical sites………….they’ve already done it?, god damit, I thought Azerbaijan followed the religion of peace…oh well
He did say Karabakh is Azeri territory, what you on about? "Propaganda", where? (At most he should have said reconquer, not conquer, but that would be us talking semantics). "Christian fundamentalist" lol wtf you talking about😂
@@diogosousa868He portrayed Karabakh's post-Soviet state as some disputed oblast rather than Azerbaijani territory and also tried to whitewash the Armenian invasion in 1990.
@@nenenindonu "Disputed Oblast" nations born from the collapsed empire often war each other due to borders that separate ethnic/religious groups (look at Kashmir per example). This is not to say Armenia did right in 199, but that sort of scenarios isn't uncommon to see. "Whitewash 1990 war", he was a bigger video about that war with more details, meanwhile the focus of this video is about the situation of NK, the Armenian Karabakhs and the Azeri moving back.
Love this channel - not because of the horrors it covers; but because of the horrors it covers. I would never have known this great injustice happened to those poor people. And now I know. I’m sorry to anyone affected by this conflict. Nobody deserves to have their home destroyed. Armenian, or Azerbaijani. Cut us open and we have the same insides. When your body is found in centuries by archaeologists; they won’t know - they’ll only be able to assume where you came from. The bottom line is that you were human, regardless of the name that belonged to the outline on a map which you were born in. War seems inevitable with how humanity works; but I wish we lived in an ideal world where it wasn’t an option.
Simon, follower for about a year now across your channels and platforms.
This channel is almost to 1M subscribers… well deserved, congratulations and thank you.
George W Bush held what was supposed to be a week-long conference in 2001 in hopes of resolving the dispute. It ended after a few hours, and on his way out he said to Colin Powell, “I don’t ever want to hear about this again!”
Would love to see a source on that
@@aram9167if only you had a magic box that answers all your questions...
Armenia and Azerbaijan: Key
West Peace Talks
@@aram9167Same!
@@aram9167 Love that this is the first reply to a comment like this. RUclips would be much better off if this was the norm
For some of the people making ignorant assumptions in the comments. The Armenians of Artsakh (as it was known since ancient times) or Mountainous/Nagorno Karabakh have a history of self-rule going back 1000 years. The Principality of Khachen (821-1000), Kingdom of Artsakh (1000-1261), the Principality of Khachen (1261-1601), the Principalities/Melikdoms of "Khamsa" (1601-1822), Russian empire abolished local titles in 1822-1918, the Armenian National Council of Karabakh (1918-1920), the Nagorno Karabakh Autonomous Oblast/Region from 1921-1991, and the Republic of Artsakh (1991-2023).
This area had been self-ruled by local Armenians for nearly 1200 years.
I think Simon deserves praise for beginning this retrospective by reminding us that Armenia and Azerbaijan alike did truly horrible things to one another, where as many others who discuss this conflict either gloss over Armenia's more sinister actions or outright ignore them to paint Azerbaijan far less favorably. It's important to recognize that sometimes, there's no real good guy in these situations.
There might be no good guy but there surely is a right guy, which in the case of this conflict is Azerbaijan since the territory is internationally recognized as hers, borders are defined by international law and any medieval minded country that goes against it is by definition THE AGRESSOR
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Im new to this guy and channel. Does he/this channel claim objectivity or admit to lean one way? If so what ways do they lean?
Because that's what you think when you listen it at face value. The first war was started by Azerbaijan and Azerbaijan alone, people were blockaded to starve in the late 80s and military was used against them, when you face such a thing, you either pick up arms or you die, so that's what they did. That's like Russia crying over of its lands being occupied by Ukraine after it started the war. Remember, the azerbaijani president openly admitted he was offered the 7 regions back in return for a peace deal but he refused them, he wanted to solve it by war and that's what he did. I wish I can share links here, but don't push bothsidism just on the surface without going into the details on each step on how things got there.
@@ca7971 in my experience, Simon isn't obviously right or left wing, but if you forced me to choose one, I'd say he leans a bit to the left. Overall though, I'd describe Simon as a pragmatist more than anything. He doesn't think of political parties like sports teams and advocates for policies on a case by case basis. In short, he's one of the good ones.
''We have forgotten how we lost the First Republic of Armenia. There was the Turkish-Russian cooperation. There also was the pursuit of the Treaty of Sevres. Then, as now, we became obsessed with our dreams instead of focusing on the possible, and we lost part of what was possible. More, we lost our independence. In other words, all of this was predictable and predicted.''
- Gerard Libaridian (US-Armenian historian and diplomat, advisor to the first president of Armenia between 1991-1997, deputy foreign minister, one of the main negotiators with Turkey and Azerbaijan over the NK issue)
I wish he had gone into more detail on the falling out between Russia and Armenia as a result of this conflict. That consequence deserves to be talked about.
Thanks for this, Simon. It is important to remember this, so thank you for doing your part.
As an Armenian, thank you for reporting on this Simon.
A genuine Armenian, OR BS?
A bot/fake account seeking likes in the comments section? 😏
@@EAcapuccinowhy u care so much 😭😭
@wassupyeah28
I don't
That was a genuine question this bot hasn't responded to yet and likely never will 😄
As I recall, Nagorno-Karabakh was made an autonomous oblast of the Azerbaijani SSR by Stalin (despite being mostly inhabited ethnic Armenians) as part of a “divide and rule” strategy that would keep the other Soviet Republics from resisting Moscow’s rule.
It’s also the reason for the three-way border dispute between Uzbekistan, Kyrgyzstan, and Tajikistan.
This conflict proly did not get attention because of its naturally confusing baseline. A psudeo-state that is not recognized attacked by the state that should technically own it (by international borders at least). With both main parties being small local nations that seldom get headlines anyway. With both parties not appearing as easy good guys, its just not a particularly sexy story. I think if Baku pulled the trigger on a full war thou, media attention might finally have swung. In any case, this is just a unfortunate situation all around and i doubt even with a peace treaty that this is the last round to this mess.
The conflict didn't get attention because Azerbaijan was simply restoring it's territorial integrity you know the way Ukraine's currently doing with Russia being the Armenian correspondant
@@nenenindonu Wrong. Armenians have lived on that land for centuries.. long before Turkey created the Turkish colony known as Azerbaijan.
@@0816M3RC😂😂😂 Armenians in southern Georgia have lived there for centuries I guess Georgia should be scared because irredentism is a religion in Armenia.
@@0816M3RC Azerbaijanis also lived there for centuries, borders are defined by international law which makes Armenia the Aggressor here
@@edwardsnowden8821 Shouldn't you be proud of your origins and use your real Azeri name? lol
Yo thanks! Was wondering about Nagorno the other day but didn't get time to check, life is soooooo busy eh!
Reading about what the Azeri government did to Nakhchivan I’m horrified by what’s gonna happen to Artsakh.
It is important to remember all of the lives that are wasted because we still can't get along with each other.
Because all the ones at uni's protest whatever is popular (usually without actually understanding what they are protesting about)
I think Armenia is right to crack down on the attempts to form a Nagorno government in exile. If allowed to fester it could eventually form into a Hezbollah like organization that could cause a great deal of border tension with Azerbaijan. Just like what we are seeing in Israel and Lebanon currently.
The destruction of Nagorno Karabakh is very different than Israel/Lebanon...
they tried and are still trying. research more dear mr. brainwashed
@@kristaporkhach I am not saying it isn't but there are quite a few similarities. Armenia is a country that no longer wants to engage in aggression with their neighbor since the balance of power has shifted in Azerbaijan's favor. While being forced to play host to the vast majority of the dislocated refugees that now see their homeland as occupied by their regional enemies who have largely settled on their border with Azerbaijan. It is not hard to see how with this situation can snowball into militias and radicalized groups that seek to reclaim what they have lost. The seeds for a Hezbollah organization forming are there if allowed to take root.
@@tylerpetersen6226 I still don’t see the similarities, Hezbollah is a political group, not a people, and it was not ousted from its homeland. Armenia did not engage in aggression, the Armenians of NK, voted for independence and were met with violence that then became a full fledged war. Armenians in general would like to see NK back under Armenian control, but aren’t willing to initiate a war they know they cannot win at this moment in time.
@kristaporkhach No Hezbollah is a military organization that eventually formed an ideology of the destruction of Israel. If you go to the very early start of Hezbollah was largely formed in Jordan before they caused a whole bunch of problems for the Jordanian government that resulted in a crackdown forcing Hezbollah out of Jordan and refocus their efforts in Lebanon. Nasrallah was key in establishing legitimacy for the Hezbollah organization by focusing on fostering political aspirations and public goodwill in Lebanon in an infiltration tactic to stop a repeat of what happened in Jordan. Its gotten to the point where no leader of Lebanon can do what Jordan did to Hezbollah without serious resistance and the potential of starting a civil war. Now imagine if a government in exile was able to form with the ideology of take back NK which according to some estimates 90% of its population flee to Armenia last year and a vast majority have settle close to the border. And it becomes the goal of this exiled government to gather assets to take back NK by any means for the next 20-40 years, meanwhile the Armenian government wants peace but a portion of the population has sympathy for the refugees. You could see this exiled government become another nonstate military organization causing border friction with Azerbaijan prompting another war with a much more powerful nation. Just like what we are seeing now in Israel/Lebanon. This is why I think it is wise for the Armenian government to crackdown now and focus on assimilating the refugees and not let these aspirations form because this is a potential outcome if left unaddressed.
I haven't had a single protest about this...
"Unless I can make money off this "thing" you're talking about, then I don't care" - most people
Thanks for being virtually the only major history & geopolitics channel to follow up on the plight of Artsakh 💪🏻🇦🇲
You mean KARABAH 💪🏻🇦🇿👈🏻
@@islammehmeov2334u turks live in delusion
You never talked about the genocide in gazza but this is so important.
I think i see bias here.
This is really sad :(
The Armenians of Nagorno-Karabakh have been forced to abandon their ancestral homes for fear of ethnic cleansing, while Azerbaijan has inherited land that’s been all but completely abandoned that doesn’t have much in overall value.
Seems like nobody really won in the end.
And please keep in mind that I’m trying to remain as neutral as possible here. This is just my personal opinion, and forgive me if I’m ultimately incorrect.
Azerbaijan won
@@nenenindonu yeah, though its gonna take a lot effort on their part to make any use of the now desolate lands
@@bluraggon6674land without armenians is more valuable than land with armenians
@@bluraggon6674do you mean desolate as in Sahara dessert desolate or desolate as in America being desolate of native Americans and European settlers taking over their Land. pls elaborate.
Armenia could have negotiated a border treaty with Azerbaijan 20 years ago when it had the upper hand. The decades long conflict was an incredible waste of lives and material.
If a piece of paper was all that was necessary, Ukraine wouldn't be at war. We all know how valuable a piece of paper is to politics. The resentments held by both sides were there from the beginning, and there is no one action that could've prevented it. What happened was a tragedy of blindness. The entire world looked away even when they knew what was happening.
This was so well done and so well balanced that you will probably be savaged by both sides in the comments.
That smoldering mess look like the infield of the Indy 500 after a race!
That level of destruction of an entire culture and any sign of its existance has been happening to Serbian culture and herritage in Kosovo since early 2000s and still goes on sadly.
1:31 Dude, the Armenian-inhabited territories in Nagorno-Karabakh were completely surrounded by Azer-inhabited towns and villages. They were making semi-autonomous ethnic enclaves within seperate republics exactly because the demographic make-up of the southern Caucasus was made up of ethnic enclaves all over the place.
"For all they that take the sword shall perish with the sword."
Armenians couldn't imagine a world where Russia wouldn't or couldn't rescue them from the consquences of their own actions. Now they have only begun to pay it's price.
Thank you so much for the follow up! That conflict is more complex than it seems and to describe it thoroughly would take hours. I just want to note that this dispute was existential for Armenians (the result speaks for itself) and territorial for the other side.
Exactly! Its home for one, and land for the other.
Always I want to be with you,
And make believe with you,
And live in harmony, harmony oh love!
Great reporting Simon.
Karabakh is the UN recognized territory of Azerbaijan just how Donetsk, Luhansk, and Crimea are for Ukraine, you can't "conquer" your own territory at most "reconquer"
You really shouldn't look up what the actual UN recognized territory of Israel actually is then. Because if that is the logic you use for these things, then that makes what's going on now REAL interesting!
It is strange. In recent history, Armenia fell under the Russian geopolitical sphere of influence. The west, leaving this situation to Russia to police and deal with as it saw fit, demonstrated no interest whatsoever in involving itself during the pandemic. Russia, the only group that might’ve cared to intervene in this conflict (being a member of the same regional security group of nations as Armenia which is similar in scope to NATO) was thoroughly occupied with their own military operations in Ukraine at the time, and provided little support, amongst a backdrop of already recent weak Russian-Armenian relations. The East only cared about this region and it’s issues because it benefited them (China’s Belt and Road initiative could now expand in another direction, so they preferred an Azeri victory). These reasons are why the world turned a blind eye and demonstrated little to no care towards this conflict 😅
Informative video about Armenian 🇦🇲 Azerbaijan 🇦🇿 challenges. How do turkey 🇹🇷 and Israelian weaponry help Azerbaijan against Armenia 🇦🇲
Pashinyan is a fool. He's going to be betrayed by his enemies he somehow trusts. Is he eight years old or something?
Was betrayed by his allies too
You guys must be so tired posting a wonderful video, only to hear breaking news of your next video
what a shame..
Armenians systematically erased Azerbaijani villages, towns N cities in karabakh eg agdam, fuzuli, lachin etc when they had invaded Azerbaijan.
Hey Simon, is your footage open source? Or are you subscribed to a news wire? The production values are phenomenal, even when the content like this is emotionally devastating.
YES. Let's completely ignore the fact that just like Nagorno-Karabakh, Southern part of modern-day Armenia (Zangezur) has been "given" to Armenia, although the majority of the population there has always been and at the moment still was Azerbaijani.
Azeri bot.
@@0816M3RCArmenian dashnak bot
@@0816M3RC İ think he's just Azeri.
Bro can you really not follow that your logic is so incredibly flawed?Armenians have lived in that region when the ancestors of Azeris still lived in Central asia. Stop making excuses.
@@RK-cj4oc Native Americans lived in America when the ancestors of modern day Americans were still in Europe, Africa and Asia. Does that mean we should give the land back to the Native Americans just because they lived on the land a little bit longer than the modern Americans, who themselves have lived on the land for well over 400 years?
Armenia could’ve negotiated better when they had the upper hand, UN tried multiple times to bring peace to the region and Armenia to give back the land they illegally occupied. But a piece of paper is more valuable to the politicians than people dying
The explanation is cos people only care about the things that directly affect their country. If the US and Russia werent involved with israel and palastine, nobody would give a shit about that either.
Its human nature for people to not care or be empathetic to things that dont directly affect their own small environments. If it wasnt, thered be more done about the wars globally than just the 2 that seemingly exist currently.
Wanna talk about the erasure pf the British Anglo Saxon heritage? Do they need to start fighting against the government for you to call for a stop in your own homeland Simon?
What erasure? White, English Anglo-Saxon here, btw.
I remember when Putins haters , when Russia was on Armenia side, used to say that Nagorno karabach is Azerbaijan historic land, and armenia is erasing the history. Now Putins haters suddenly switched side 😂. No matter what - blame Putin
I tried searching on RUclips if you’ve made a video on the thaad air defense system. If there is one someone plz let me know if there isn’t that would be cool to watch.
The only issue I have is that there is no talk about how the Armenians destroyed cultural centers of Azerbaijanis who fled Nagorno-Karabakh after the war that saw Armenia take control of the region.
By the way, unlike the Azerbaijanis who were forced to flee under the threat of death, the Armenians were at least given the choice of staying under the Azerbaijani citizenship.
He's doing that "issue" intentionally, never forget Aghdam and Khojaly
"No talk about how the Armenians destroyed cultural centers of Azeris..."
4:10 ?
Except he does bring it up? Did you watch the video?
That is because people that want to talk about it always leave out the Azeris tried to lynch Armenians im this area and initiates the etnic conflict.
Its not genocide when tolerance and peace does it.
Bro i am ur fan so far and watched all your videos and u always seem objective but somehow in this particular case you got it totally wrong. First of all you trying to focus full attention on refugees from Armenia but what about our refugees that 600,000 that have been refugees for almost 30 years what about their pain and suffering? Only difference was they left volunteering nobody MADE them go. Our government said become Azerbaijan citizens and stay which is totally legit thing to say what you mean they gonna stay here in Azerbaijan jurisdiction and dont take our documents and be like Armenian citizen or something? How do you imagine that happening? So they collectively choose to leave which i respect i wouldn't wanna live under Armenia either you know? But we in 90s didn't left like that our people ran bare foot during February and then Xocalı massacre happened and after Xocali Massacre civilian population of that 7 regions mass ran to Baku destabilising already weak Azerbaijan. I mean to a person who is from Azerbaijan and been through all that shit this video seems such a ARMENIAN PROPAGANDA
What can I say... You reap what you sow.
Thought this was a Sinwar video being posted immediately. Love the channel, Simon and co. Thanks for all you do.
Rather than destroying the monuments, Azerbaijan should put them in a museum. Maybe give or sell them to Armenia
Starfishes are glad you guys cover the smaller, but still important things
I haven’t been this early since I was born.
"After leaving their mark on the region for centuries" - no, rather, "after leaving their mark on the region for millennia" (this is not an insignificant nuance for historical credibility)
Let’s just hope Azerbaijan doesn’t destroy any historical sites………….they’ve already done it?, god damit, I thought Azerbaijan followed the religion of peace…oh well
First viewer and commenter YAY
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My mothers friend is Armenian and she is very upset by this when it happened
You don’t have to be Armenian to be upset by millennia old heritage being erased
@@strpet27cry harder the MUSLAM TURKIS WON 💪🏻🇹🇷🇦🇿☪️☝🏻
The Kosovo folks did the same to ancient Serbian sites
"Ancient" is a strong word for lands occupied on start of 20th century.
@@erkutkoksal1913 Ancient as in before the islamic invasion
@@whiskey_tango_foxtrot__ it was not islamic but turkic invasion. Islam was only the religion of invaders. The population was not serb but albanian.
@@erkutkoksal1913 The population was Christian who were invaded, conquered and colonized and subjected to brutal Sharia Law.
Thank you, "Kosovo folks"
From "Nakchivan" to Artsakh it is all rightfully Armenian.
The wrongs will be righted in coming decades.
Karabakh is the internationally recognized territory of Azerbaijan and propaganda from a biased Christian fundamentalist like you won't change that
Luke's like the dreams of Kemalist too be excepted by European has Failed
He did say Karabakh is Azeri territory, what you on about?
"Propaganda", where? (At most he should have said reconquer, not conquer, but that would be us talking semantics).
"Christian fundamentalist" lol wtf you talking about😂
@@diogosousa868He portrayed Karabakh's post-Soviet state as some disputed oblast rather than Azerbaijani territory and also tried to whitewash the Armenian invasion in 1990.
@@nenenindonu Okay, now address why you called him a Christian fundamentalist & why that matters.
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"Disputed Oblast" nations born from the collapsed empire often war each other due to borders that separate ethnic/religious groups (look at Kashmir per example). This is not to say Armenia did right in 199, but that sort of scenarios isn't uncommon to see.
"Whitewash 1990 war", he was a bigger video about that war with more details, meanwhile the focus of this video is about the situation of NK, the Armenian Karabakhs and the Azeri moving back.
How i wake up knowing the glorious nation of azerbaijan is victorious ❤❤❤
Love this channel - not because of the horrors it covers; but because of the horrors it covers.
I would never have known this great injustice happened to those poor people.
And now I know.
I’m sorry to anyone affected by this conflict. Nobody deserves to have their home destroyed.
Armenian, or Azerbaijani.
Cut us open and we have the same insides.
When your body is found in centuries by archaeologists;
they won’t know - they’ll only be able to assume where you came from. The bottom line is that you were human, regardless of the name that belonged to the outline on a map which you were born in.
War seems inevitable with how humanity works; but I wish we lived in an ideal world where it wasn’t an option.