Thanks for the video. My honda vision was made in 2014 and i went to the honda dealer and they told me valve clearance on my model is 0,16 on inlet and exaust +/_ 0,02. At ten thousand km no adjustment was needed😊
Hello Mark. Thank you for your comments. There is a manual/technical info available via Honda MARIS. It’s an online database of everything Honda which you need to register for and pay a subscription. It’s definitely worth the money. Best regards
Thank you. I’m not an expert and it wasn’t my intention to make it a tutorial but I hope that it will give people the confidence to have a go and a bit of close up guidance of what to look for. Ride safe and best regards
Great video Simon. I would just comment that the greater risk is from clearances which are too tight. The valves then fail to close and allow hot exhaust gases to blow by. This causes the valve to burn out. When the BMW C1 first came out there was a rash of people finding their exhaust valve had burnt out within the first few thousand miles. It seems the clearlance closed up dramatically over those initial miles. After that, it gradually settled down. I don't know if the Vision is the same, but the symptom on the C1 of tight exhaust valves was the engine revs rising and falling when stationary (typically waiting at traffic lights). The reason for this is that as the valves fails to close, the engine revs drop. That reduction in revs is just enough for the valve to cool, close properly and then the revs pick up. And so the cycle continues.
Great video, what would you suggest me to do if mine bogs down and eventually turns off if I give it too much throttle? I recently did the rollers and i don't know if either I didn't place them properly that causes the bike on higher rpm to bog down. I would appreciate your take on this matter, thank you!
@@ArkadiuszTurek-y1u you have to strip from the rear forward and it isn’t easy as when we did this with a friends, quite a few of the panels broke/lost the tabs that hold them in place. Good luck 🤞
Hey man, I read carefully in the Honda service book, it's vision 110 2012 model too, it clearly said 0.16mm/+_0.002mm for both. I used the shim to make sure the accurate but the noise came out just loud & loud. Moved down 0.10, still noisy but less, moved down 0.08, almost no noisy but the engine reving became dull and more vibration. Btw at 0.10mm the engine was working good except the noisy. Don't t know what to do or I need to replace the valve/spring/???
How can i make my 110 go faster? Its supposed 105 kp/h on paper then capped but to get there i need a downhill the size of Scandinavia and leaning forward. Got any tips? As a light MC according to My country it can go 135 kp/h and no saying of of how fast we got there.
I have tried many things with this engine to give it a little more power for hills but without much success. The trouble with most of the performance parts is they are suited to short stroke engines that rev higher. The 110 esp engine in the Vision is a long stroke engine and of low compression. You cannot make much more power. I have fitted a slightly larger throttle body and that gives it a little more mid range but in all honesty I wouldn’t waste your time and money trying to enhance the power of this engine. I have left several comments on this subject over on the Vision 110 Facebook page. I have in the past and fitted an air fuel ratio gauge and played with larger injectors. I have also experimented with the length of the intake and the air box amongst other things. Nothing! This engine is great as almost standard and I would recommend adjusting the rollers weights to your body weight for a little more performance only. Best regards
Great video. How often realistically does this need done? Also, what harm comes to the bike if, like for this bike, one of the clearances is off by a bit?
I think the owners manual lists it as ‘inspect’ every 2500 miles. In my experience, once the engine has settled down and you have checked and adjusted twice, they don’t seem to need so much in the way of adjustment. It’s usually the exhaust valve that needs adjustment, again in my experience. If the valves were too tight, there would be a risk of poor running or non starting. If the valves were too loose, there is a chance of premature engine wear and possibly damage caused depending on how out of adjustment they are. I guess it wouldn’t run so well either in this scenario. There is an allowance or tolerance of -/+ .02mm so if the valves were slightly out of adjustment, I don’t think you would need to worry so much. Hope that helps
Edit: after speaking to a mechanic who didn't have time to fix it he said the instructions were incomplete that the fan should be rotated one full rotation to the t mark so the valve is open and again to do the second one. .. I followed this and checked the valves after tightening the nuts very tight, then reassembled and the engine sounded a lot louder and had a strong ticking sound so I took it all apart and checked the clearances and the top clearance was very large, I undid the nuts which were still tight and repeated the process. And now again lots of ticking and louder engine and it takes longer to come off stopped idle function at lights. I think I am going to go to a mechanic because something changes after running which I don't understand.
I don’t believe that’s correct. If the engine is rotated to TDC in the first instance it makes no difference if you were to rotate the engine again for the second valve as they are independent of each other in adjustment. You might be forgetting that the engine only fired on every other cycle so if you rotate the engine 360° after adjustment, the valves would then be in an incorrect position to check. Hope that helps
Hi, its hard to find any info online.. Can I assume that the valve clearance would be the same for a vision 110 2013 model? I've heard that both valves should be 0.20mm +/-0.02mm from one source, but elsewhere I heard it was intake 0.15mm and exhaust 0.22mm! And now your video is intake 0.12mm and exhaust 0.18mm, I'm not sure what to think!
Thanks for the video. My honda vision was made in 2014 and i went to the honda dealer and they told me valve clearance on my model is 0,16 on inlet and exaust +/_ 0,02.
At ten thousand km no adjustment was needed😊
Visions great bike,annoyed when could'nt find workshop manual.
Your videos are treasured by me mate.:).
Hello Mark. Thank you for your comments. There is a manual/technical info available via Honda MARIS. It’s an online database of everything Honda which you need to register for and pay a subscription. It’s definitely worth the money.
Best regards
Simon, thank you. I just checked my valve clearence based on the video. If you ever come to Swiss, you may make station at my place. 🙂 Write me.
I would say that's a great tutorial! Thanks!
Thank you. I’m not an expert and it wasn’t my intention to make it a tutorial but I hope that it will give people the confidence to have a go and a bit of close up guidance of what to look for.
Ride safe and best regards
This engine is used a lot of vehicles in India, thanks for the information.
Another excellent video Si 👍
Thank you 🙏 it’s much appreciated.
@@scootyman2974 these videos are very helpful Si and credit to you for taking the time to make them
Getting there mate.
@@pauldeary it’s actually all finished Paul but 🤫 don’t tell anyone 😉.
MOT tomorrow, fingers crossed
@@scootyman2974 mums the word. Good luck mate.
Excellent again, Simon.
Hello, thanks for the video. Do you also know the torque for the adjuster locknut? Thank you in advance
I'm thinking of getting a vision.A useful video for me would be removing and re fitting the panels without damaging them.
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Great video Simon. I would just comment that the greater risk is from clearances which are too tight. The valves then fail to close and allow hot exhaust gases to blow by. This causes the valve to burn out. When the BMW C1 first came out there was a rash of people finding their exhaust valve had burnt out within the first few thousand miles. It seems the clearlance closed up dramatically over those initial miles. After that, it gradually settled down. I don't know if the Vision is the same, but the symptom on the C1 of tight exhaust valves was the engine revs rising and falling when stationary (typically waiting at traffic lights). The reason for this is that as the valves fails to close, the engine revs drop. That reduction in revs is just enough for the valve to cool, close properly and then the revs pick up. And so the cycle continues.
Great video, what would you suggest me to do if mine bogs down and eventually turns off if I give it too much throttle?
I recently did the rollers and i don't know if either I didn't place them properly that causes the bike on higher rpm to bog down.
I would appreciate your take on this matter, thank you!
@@Sincethe80sGaming throttle position sensor reset would be the first thing I would check. I’ve covered that in a video too.
What plastics have I to remove to adjust Valve in honda Vision,model 2023?
@@ArkadiuszTurek-y1u you have to strip from the rear forward and it isn’t easy as when we did this with a friends, quite a few of the panels broke/lost the tabs that hold them in place. Good luck 🤞
Hey man, I read carefully in the Honda service book, it's vision 110 2012 model too, it clearly said 0.16mm/+_0.002mm for both. I used the shim to make sure the accurate but the noise came out just loud & loud. Moved down 0.10, still noisy but less, moved down 0.08, almost no noisy but the engine reving became dull and more vibration. Btw at 0.10mm the engine was working good except the noisy. Don't t know what to do or I need to replace the valve/spring/???
For the esp engine, inlet is .12 and exhaust is 0.18.
How can i make my 110 go faster? Its supposed 105 kp/h on paper then capped but to get there i need a downhill the size of Scandinavia and leaning forward. Got any tips? As a light MC according to My country it can go 135 kp/h and no saying of of how fast we got there.
I have tried many things with this engine to give it a little more power for hills but without much success. The trouble with most of the performance parts is they are suited to short stroke engines that rev higher. The 110 esp engine in the Vision is a long stroke engine and of low compression. You cannot make much more power. I have fitted a slightly larger throttle body and that gives it a little more mid range but in all honesty I wouldn’t waste your time and money trying to enhance the power of this engine. I have left several comments on this subject over on the Vision 110 Facebook page. I have in the past and fitted an air fuel ratio gauge and played with larger injectors. I have also experimented with the length of the intake and the air box amongst other things. Nothing! This engine is great as almost standard and I would recommend adjusting the rollers weights to your body weight for a little more performance only.
Best regards
Great video. How often realistically does this need done? Also, what harm comes to the bike if, like for this bike, one of the clearances is off by a bit?
I think the owners manual lists it as ‘inspect’ every 2500 miles. In my experience, once the engine has settled down and you have checked and adjusted twice, they don’t seem to need so much in the way of adjustment. It’s usually the exhaust valve that needs adjustment, again in my experience.
If the valves were too tight, there would be a risk of poor running or non starting. If the valves were too loose, there is a chance of premature engine wear and possibly damage caused depending on how out of adjustment they are. I guess it wouldn’t run so well either in this scenario.
There is an allowance or tolerance of -/+ .02mm so if the valves were slightly out of adjustment, I don’t think you would need to worry so much.
Hope that helps
Thanks so much. Very helpful to me.
Glad it helped you.
Best regards
Simon
Edit: after speaking to a mechanic who didn't have time to fix it he said the instructions were incomplete that the fan should be rotated one full rotation to the t mark so the valve is open and again to do the second one.
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I followed this and checked the valves after tightening the nuts very tight, then reassembled and the engine sounded a lot louder and had a strong ticking sound so I took it all apart and checked the clearances and the top clearance was very large, I undid the nuts which were still tight and repeated the process. And now again lots of ticking and louder engine and it takes longer to come off stopped idle function at lights. I think I am going to go to a mechanic because something changes after running which I don't understand.
I don’t believe that’s correct. If the engine is rotated to TDC in the first instance it makes no difference if you were to rotate the engine again for the second valve as they are independent of each other in adjustment. You might be forgetting that the engine only fired on every other cycle so if you rotate the engine 360° after adjustment, the valves would then be in an incorrect position to check. Hope that helps
Hi, its hard to find any info online.. Can I assume that the valve clearance would be the same for a vision 110 2013 model?
I've heard that both valves should be 0.20mm +/-0.02mm from one source, but elsewhere I heard it was intake 0.15mm and exhaust 0.22mm! And now your video is intake 0.12mm and exhaust 0.18mm, I'm not sure what to think!
0,12/0,18 mm for all models? Are you sure? I read "0.16mm" for both valves (cold engine).
This video refers to the esp engine. I haven’t referred to or mentioned the older mk1 engine. You will need to check with your local Honda dealer 👍
I remember that older is 0.14 /0.14