For me it was an easy choice...coming from Ping G425 I went with the forgiveness of the TSR2 and I feel it was the right choice...picked up between 8 and 10 yards over the Ping through reduced spin but dont feel that I gave up much in the way of forgiveness
I’ve been playing since 1989. The Titleist TSR2 is by far the best driver I’ve ever had and trust me I had many. Accuracy, swing speed, feel, sound, dispersion, distance : it just checks all the boxes. Still I may advise that you go for a fitting and try them all, only you can choose which driver is talking to you.
Look at the clubface at the top of that first swing Gary. (2:38 ish) It's so open at the top it's straight up and down. I think when you get that fixed you're going to be able to play any driver you want. The new TSR line all look really good to me. Second swing too.
Not to jump on the band wagon about spotting things ... however I am going to 😁 ... Proved by your numbers you are hitting down on the ball. Your shoulders at set up seem fairly level given the camera angle. If anything nudge the ball up in your stance have some side bend and see how it goes. You could also try tee'ing it up with a orange tee and see how you get on.
Thanks for the tips guys, always welcome! I’ll check out that swing at 2.38. They do look good! I think the face must sit slightly closed on the tsr2 compare to 3. Both felt very similar apart from that.
Some strange numbers for GC Quad or GC3 whichever that was. 1.56 efficiency on 1 shot and 107 club speed where most of the others we around 98. Was the face dotted correctly?
I've never had a Titleist driver but the TSr2 has my head turned and when i got fitted my dispersion was only + or - 10 yards left to right. I'm just going to have to get it.
The TSR 3 is a ball speed monster. I game it cranked down to 7.25 with the Tour Design UB X stiff shaft. Love the performance and setup. Word of caution, you need to be able to find the center of the face. It will punish you on mishits. 👍
That’s some setup! I’ve tried the same spec in 9*, that shaft feels so so nice! Id love to buy one 😮💨but I can’t justify it atm 😮💨 big big upgrade! It will punish you at 7.25 😂🤣🤣 missle launcher 😀 I got a new tsi3 head really cheap, and I’ve put a big upgrade shaft in it I got cheap too 😅 on a budget 😃
The biggest concern I would have with these drivers for you is launch and spin. Ball overall is coming out very low and some of those spin numbers are essentially unplayable especially launching it that low. Would definitely love to see this test with a bit more loft and a higher launching shaft. Definitely some good balls with the spin getting over 2000 but those sub 2000 spin drives would definitely be scary and probably would contribute to your fear of a quick left
I'm in the process of solving that puzzle. Had a TSi3 10* and trying a TSr2 11*. Both with HAZRDS 60 stiff. Both produce similar low ball flight. Was hitting 910D 10* with Diamana blue low but higher than either new driver. Dispersion and distance are good. Any ideas?
My driver's looks depend directly on the last shot I just watched coming off the club. Nice shot="Man I love this driver, this thing is perfect" !!! Into the woods=" you know, perhaps it's the color that's the problem"
Hahaha 🤣 lol If prefer something smaller and compact than shallow and long, but if it works, I will compromise on looks. Do you swap a lot? I’m very close to settling now, it’s either going to be the last years TSI 3 driver or a pxg 0811 Ia can buy them brand got brand new for under £200, and I just can’t afford anymore than that atm.
@@garymartingolf I updated all my stuff during Covid downtime. so the account is dry and the clubs are still pretty new. Gaming the Ping 425 max now, prior was a TaylorMade SIM, I don't think I'll be switching up soon, maybe when the Ping 43x comes out (2 years after this year's release)
Agree…you’re playing a wrong loft and shaft combo. You don’t have the swing speed to generate the spin required to hit a low launching shaft like that. And an X? No way.
It’s just setup in the standard factory settings. I’m not a heavy user of a launch monitor, so I don’t understand if my distance is good or bad for that club speed?
Not necessarily true. I swing 95mph on average an have the TSR3 as we speak. I can’t get the ball to get over 25-30 feet in the air and carry distance is about 210-220 and total distance is around 250-260. I’m in South Carolina so at a pretty low altitude. I can see with 100mph swing it going 280 all day.
Gary I just took a punt and bought a tsr 2 brand new at c4cash for under £300 in a tensei 55 stiff shaft all I can say is wow why have I never tried a titleist before it’s defo staying in the bag
I think you'll do much better with a 10 degrees and maybe a mid-launch shaft, because the backspin and launch numbers are way too low, and going for a lighter shaft say the 60g range you'll also pick up a few mph club head speed.
@@garymartingolf straight to a slight fade, when jason fitted me he put it in the upright setting to help with my left shots (I’m left handed). Awesome driver and so forgiving
Lol 😂 It will get to a point where I’d imagine they’ll be some unreal bargains, there’s been some decent deals, but it’s all got to go! There’s still loads left 😅😂
I played the TSi2 just picked up a TSR 2 for £200 with an incredible shaft that I don’t want, put that shaft on eBay and sold it for £125, used a Hzrdus shaft I like and had at home, so driver effectively for £75 happy days
The TSR2 has a face designed to create more speed across the face The TSR3 has a ring face designed for more speed around the center of the face. That's what Titliest says anyway.
You were fit for a 70g 6.5 hzrdus black with 100mph club speed? And a 9 degree head? That’s a recipe for exactly what you are seeing. Low snap hooks with no spin. I love the hzrdus black but man I play a 6.0 60g 10.0 degree and swing at 110mph. You are in way to stiff of a shaft and not enough loft.
Your point has already been proven right! I had a master fitting, ended up with Ventus 5S, 10.5* loften to 9 (to open the face) with d7 swing weight, with more weight in the toe. Thanks
TSR3 all day Gaz 😁 Shorten the shaft by an half inch or so and swing out your socks and when you find that ring in the middle watch it fly! It's money. It's nudged my Stealth Plus out the bag.
@@garymartingolf life is too short Gaz 😁 I've still got the Stealth Plus with a LA Golf Blue AXS shaft in it just in case I fall out with the TSR3 but I can't see that happening at the moment. I'll probably flog it though and get myself a Bushnell.
nice review, funny I just got off the phone with Tietilist to see if I can exchange the TSR3 for The TSR 1 I upgraded shaft when I ordered driver I purchased the Graphite Desigh DI-5 reg flex , all these reviews I don't think I'm a good enough golfer to use the 3 my swing speed could be in the mid 90s the crazy thing is I havnt even hot this TSR3 brand new just recieved it 2 days ago, idk not sure what to do, when they say go get fitted and I didn't listen shame on me lol, F,, it gonna stick with my gut and game the TSR3 only for looks and feel!! I'm a pretty good athlete ill make it work lol lol , Thanks man subscribed liked the content and honesty!!
Gaz, compare your set up to those on the tour. Your right shoulder is too high. Probably feels level. But top pros soften their right side which drops the shoulder a titch. This allows you to bomb your driver hitting through the ball. Level shoulders has a tendency to pull the shot or worst case, you come over the top.
I appreciate that and I agree, the problem is, we’re lucky in the UK, fittings are free, you can get them almost anywhere, but alot of the subscribers from Canada and America can travel upto 5 hours to find a custom fitting outlet, and even then, they can charge over £100 a fit, so those guys, sometimes have to make do with making the best calculated guess they can.
Honestly think your shaft is what’s killing your driver! That is a very low spin and x-stiff shaft. My club head speed is 118 and I only play a 6x ventus. The ball isn’t staying in the air for you. Try a graphite design tour ad-di 6x. It launches higher
I would rather pick one of those up than pay £550! I’ve just bought last years TSI 3 head off eBay for £175. Can’t justify buying the latest model. I will compare the TSI 3 and TSR 3, but I can’t see there being any difference.
Gaz. Told you where to go in my last comment. Honestly, if Simon at Precision Golf can't transform your golf then your next job will be selling clubs to "JR" at Costco.....and we can't have that.
I know. It’s not just the distance (5 hours), I simply can’t afford to buy new clubs atm, I’ve got to make the best of what we have in a demo kits. I can use the heads and put my own shaft in to optimise the numbers. I am practising on my friends launch monitor atm, which is helping my fit myself got specs. The dream is to go and see him though.
I agree. I’m going to have a proper fitting. From a brief look with sam, he thinks I use shafts that are way too heavy. Going down soon for a proper fit.
Agreed. I purchased the 9 degree TSR3 with the HZRDUS black 60g 6.5 and the fade with that thing was waaaayyyyy too much for my game. Club head speed for me is around 95 on average. I dropped down to a Tensie 55g R flex and the fade is still there for sure but not nearly as bad. Still bad enough even in full draw biased setting it’s hurting my distance so I’ve gone back to my old driver (10.5 degree TM m2 with 56g R flex)
Gary you're driving poorly due to poor spine angle. Need to tilt more and drive right shoulder through on down swing! Shoulders are too LEVEL!!! Try changing it.
The average RUclips warrior is fed up of seeing reviews from people who swing it 120mph and never miss the middle. I think my inconsistent swing puts clubs through a full test.
@@garymartingolf I have had 3 pxg drivers, 0211, gen 4 0811 x and xf. The 0211 and 0811xf are fairway finders. The x is longer but not by much. I will take forgiveness and accuracy all day over distance. I play off a 4 here in the US. I 9lay with guys who try and bomb every day, end up all over the course. The drive, as you we'll know, is only the first step to the green. Be well
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For me it was an easy choice...coming from Ping G425 I went with the forgiveness of the TSR2 and I feel it was the right choice...picked up between 8 and 10 yards over the Ping through reduced spin but dont feel that I gave up much in the way of forgiveness
I’ve been playing since 1989. The Titleist TSR2 is by far the best driver I’ve ever had and trust me I had many. Accuracy, swing speed, feel, sound, dispersion, distance : it just checks all the boxes. Still I may advise that you go for a fitting and try them all, only you can choose which driver is talking to you.
I do think it’s a great club 👌🏼
I.ve been playing 35 years..played the tsr2 last year,, but now the TSR 3 .It is awesome .as you say probably the best driver ever !
Look at the clubface at the top of that first swing Gary. (2:38 ish) It's so open at the top it's straight up and down. I think when you get that fixed you're going to be able to play any driver you want. The new TSR line all look really good to me.
Second swing too.
Not to jump on the band wagon about spotting things ... however I am going to 😁 ... Proved by your numbers you are hitting down on the ball. Your shoulders at set up seem fairly level given the camera angle. If anything nudge the ball up in your stance have some side bend and see how it goes. You could also try tee'ing it up with a orange tee and see how you get on.
Thanks for the tips guys, always welcome! I’ll check out that swing at 2.38.
They do look good! I think the face must sit slightly closed on the tsr2 compare to 3. Both felt very similar apart from that.
I’m a 20 handicapper and tried the new ping and callaway driver but the tsr2 came out on top, I rarely miss a fairway, love the sound and feel.
Some strange numbers for GC Quad or GC3 whichever that was. 1.56 efficiency on 1 shot and 107 club speed where most of the others we around 98. Was the face dotted correctly?
I've never had a Titleist driver but the TSr2 has my head turned and when i got fitted my dispersion was only + or - 10 yards left to right. I'm just going to have to get it.
It’s very nice 👌🏼
The TSR 3 is a ball speed monster. I game it cranked down to 7.25 with the Tour Design UB X stiff shaft. Love the performance and setup. Word of caution, you need to be able to find the center of the face. It will punish you on mishits. 👍
That’s some setup! I’ve tried the same spec in 9*, that shaft feels so so nice! Id love to buy one 😮💨but I can’t justify it atm 😮💨 big big upgrade!
It will punish you at 7.25 😂🤣🤣 missle launcher 😀
I got a new tsi3 head really cheap, and I’ve put a big upgrade shaft in it I got cheap too 😅 on a budget 😃
The biggest concern I would have with these drivers for you is launch and spin. Ball overall is coming out very low and some of those spin numbers are essentially unplayable especially launching it that low. Would definitely love to see this test with a bit more loft and a higher launching shaft. Definitely some good balls with the spin getting over 2000 but those sub 2000 spin drives would definitely be scary and probably would contribute to your fear of a quick left
I'm in the process of solving that puzzle. Had a TSi3 10* and trying a TSr2 11*. Both with HAZRDS 60 stiff. Both produce similar low ball flight. Was hitting 910D 10* with Diamana blue low but higher than either new driver. Dispersion and distance are good. Any ideas?
Great to see a review from someone with a similar swing to mine rather than 120mph out the middle all the time
Thanks Paul 👍🏼
My driver's looks depend directly on the last shot I just watched coming off the club. Nice shot="Man I love this driver, this thing is perfect" !!! Into the woods=" you know, perhaps it's the color that's the problem"
Hahaha 🤣 lol
If prefer something smaller and compact than shallow and long, but if it works, I will compromise on looks. Do you swap a lot? I’m very close to settling now, it’s either going to be the last years TSI 3 driver or a pxg 0811 Ia can buy them brand got brand new for under £200, and I just can’t afford anymore than that atm.
@@garymartingolf I updated all my stuff during Covid downtime. so the account is dry and the clubs are still pretty new. Gaming the Ping 425 max now, prior was a TaylorMade SIM, I don't think I'll be switching up soon, maybe when the Ping 43x comes out (2 years after this year's release)
If you get a higher launching shaft (and probably stiff, not x) and a more lofted head (10 or 11) you'll be carrying those easily over 250.
Thanks Eric, I’ve got a driver for at the ping factory next week which I’ll be recording. Let’s see what they say. You might be right 👍🏼
Agree…you’re playing a wrong loft and shaft combo. You don’t have the swing speed to generate the spin required to hit a low launching shaft like that. And an X? No way.
What is the GC quad set on? As you seen efficiency at 1.59? Also 99 mile an hour club head speed going 290 yards?
It’s just setup in the standard factory settings. I’m not a heavy user of a launch monitor, so I don’t understand if my distance is good or bad for that club speed?
You should be on tour if your getting that distance from that speed. It’s just not true. I’m guessing there’s something in the setup
Not necessarily true.
I swing 95mph on average an have the TSR3 as we speak. I can’t get the ball to get over 25-30 feet in the air and carry distance is about 210-220 and total distance is around 250-260. I’m in South Carolina so at a pretty low altitude.
I can see with 100mph swing it going 280 all day.
Also I’ll add that’s with a pretty ugly fade in my opinion with my set up. No launch monitor that’s all real life on course numbers.
Gary I just took a punt and bought a tsr 2 brand new at c4cash for under £300 in a tensei 55 stiff shaft all I can say is wow why have I never tried a titleist before it’s defo staying in the bag
It’s a quality quality club. What a deal!
I think you'll do much better with a 10 degrees and maybe a mid-launch shaft, because the backspin and launch numbers are way too low, and going for a lighter shaft say the 60g range you'll also pick up a few mph club head speed.
Great head to head Gaz, I tried the TSR 3 but it was spinning too low so it was TSR 2 for me
What’s your shot shape?
@@garymartingolf straight to a slight fade, when jason fitted me he put it in the upright setting to help with my left shots (I’m left handed). Awesome driver and so forgiving
Can't wait for Sam to have these half price on Sunday 😂 good vlog pal 👍
Lol 😂 It will get to a point where I’d imagine they’ll be some unreal bargains, there’s been some decent deals, but it’s all got to go! There’s still loads left 😅😂
I played the TSi2 just picked up a TSR 2 for £200 with an incredible shaft that I don’t want, put that shaft on eBay and sold it for £125, used a Hzrdus shaft I like and had at home, so driver effectively for £75 happy days
The TSR2 has a face designed to create more speed across the face
The TSR3 has a ring face designed for more speed around the center of the face. That's what Titliest says anyway.
Yeah, I did read that, but I’m sure there must be a difference in face angle, I noticed straight away a difference in the start line.
Testing in Jan but looked at them in the shop the other day and can’t go past the 3. The 2 still looks too big at the back.
It’s improved on the look of the TSI2, but it is slightly longer than the TSR3.
You and I differ greatly in our definition of "not driving the ball well" my friend
Lol 😂 It’s not consistent. It’s very rare I’m confident with what I’m doing 🫤
@@garymartingolf Fair enough, but my idea of a bad drive is the 50 yard slice that drops out the sky at 240 or the snap hook to hell and gone lol
All you need is the hybrid 👌
You were fit for a 70g 6.5 hzrdus black with 100mph club speed? And a 9 degree head? That’s a recipe for exactly what you are seeing. Low snap hooks with no spin. I love the hzrdus black but man I play a 6.0 60g 10.0 degree and swing at 110mph. You are in way to stiff of a shaft and not enough loft.
Your point has already been proven right! I had a master fitting, ended up with Ventus 5S, 10.5* loften to 9 (to open the face) with d7 swing weight, with more weight in the toe.
Thanks
Would love to see you hit the TSR2 in B1 or C1 to take out the left side a little bit. Can’t really go wrong either way
Good point 👍🏼
TSR3 all day Gaz 😁
Shorten the shaft by an half inch or so and swing out your socks and when you find that ring in the middle watch it fly!
It's money.
It's nudged my Stealth Plus out the bag.
Really!! Wow! You don’t mess about do you 😂 Stealth Plus for TSR3 🔥
@@garymartingolf life is too short Gaz 😁 I've still got the Stealth Plus with a LA Golf Blue AXS shaft in it just in case I fall out with the TSR3 but I can't see that happening at the moment. I'll probably flog it though and get myself a Bushnell.
nice review, funny I just got off the phone with Tietilist to see if I can exchange the TSR3 for The TSR 1 I upgraded shaft when I ordered driver I purchased the Graphite Desigh DI-5 reg flex , all these reviews I don't think I'm a good enough golfer to use the 3 my swing speed could be in the mid 90s the crazy thing is I havnt even hot this TSR3 brand new just recieved it 2 days ago, idk not sure what to do, when they say go get fitted and I didn't listen shame on me lol, F,, it gonna stick with my gut and game the TSR3 only for looks and feel!! I'm a pretty good athlete ill make it work lol lol , Thanks man subscribed liked the content and honesty!!
Well done gaz 🏌♂️ 👍
How’s the courses in Scotland? You still playing ?
Just tested both and off 7 went for the 2😊
Im a higher handicap player and found the tsr3 very consistent.
Gaz stick to the PXG 0211 you was hitting it way better pal just as good as that driver
Look at the Cobra LTDX LS, can't beat it in my opinion
I loved it when we did the champions league last year. It’s a great driver 🔥
You have that many drivers that you must spin a roulette wheel to see what you play with lol
I will stick with one very soon! Now I’ve got the strong hybrid, I’m having a change in direction. If I pull driver out, it’s going to be worth it 💣
Gaz, compare your set up to those on the tour. Your right shoulder is too high. Probably feels level. But top pros soften their right side which drops the shoulder a titch. This allows you to bomb your driver hitting through the ball. Level shoulders has a tendency to pull the shot or worst case, you come over the top.
Thanks, I’ll focus on that using a mirror 👌🏼
TSR3 every-time Let's go champ 🥊🥊🥊🥊
If you fancy 1 round, I’ll KO you! Not in the ring though ⛳️🤣🤣
I think if you’re spending that much on a driver, you have to get fitted and try them all. Love the look of both of them though.
I appreciate that and I agree, the problem is, we’re lucky in the UK, fittings are free, you can get them almost anywhere, but alot of the subscribers from Canada and America can travel upto 5 hours to find a custom fitting outlet, and even then, they can charge over £100 a fit, so those guys, sometimes have to make do with making the best calculated guess they can.
I would hope you would always choose based on numbers
I have practising using optimiser, so there’s something interesting coming soon!
@@garymartingolf I'll be eagerly awaiting. Don't let me down😜😜😜
Honestly think your shaft is what’s killing your driver! That is a very low spin and x-stiff shaft. My club head speed is 118 and I only play a 6x ventus. The ball isn’t staying in the air for you. Try a graphite design tour ad-di 6x. It launches higher
Thanks for the tip. Since then I got professionally fitted and I came out needing a ventus Red 5s to get my launch and spin up.
Thanks
Liked the video Gaz
Thanks Stephen 👍🏼
I still personally think the titleist TS driver Is the best driver but that's my opinion
I would rather pick one of those up than pay £550! I’ve just bought last years TSI 3 head off eBay for £175. Can’t justify buying the latest model. I will compare the TSI 3 and TSR 3, but I can’t see there being any difference.
Liked the video
Thanks
Thanks
Gaz. Told you where to go in my last comment. Honestly, if Simon at Precision Golf can't transform your golf then your next job will be selling clubs to "JR" at Costco.....and we can't have that.
I know. It’s not just the distance (5 hours), I simply can’t afford to buy new clubs atm, I’ve got to make the best of what we have in a demo kits. I can use the heads and put my own shaft in to optimise the numbers.
I am practising on my friends launch monitor atm, which is helping my fit myself got specs.
The dream is to go and see him though.
@@garymartingolf speak to the average golfer he sells clubs for fun
@@garymartingolfbro if this golf channel is your start up
Business, the. You can write off the (golf club) expenses.
I dont think the 6.5 is doing you any favours
I agree. I’m going to have a proper fitting. From a brief look with sam, he thinks I use shafts that are way too heavy. Going down soon for a proper fit.
Agreed. I purchased the 9 degree TSR3 with the HZRDUS black 60g 6.5 and the fade with that thing was waaaayyyyy too much for my game. Club head speed for me is around 95 on average.
I dropped down to a Tensie 55g R flex and the fade is still there for sure but not nearly as bad. Still bad enough even in full draw biased setting it’s hurting my distance so I’ve gone back to my old driver (10.5 degree TM m2 with 56g R flex)
Gary you're driving poorly due to poor spine angle. Need to tilt more and drive right shoulder through on down swing! Shoulders are too LEVEL!!! Try changing it.
Thanks, I’ll focus on that 🔥
Hope it helps.
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stick with mini driver 1st
Clickbait worked but I was ultimately underwhelmed
Can’t really trust this review when you don’t strike the ball consistently
The average RUclips warrior is fed up of seeing reviews from people who swing it 120mph and never miss the middle. I think my inconsistent swing puts clubs through a full test.
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PXG 0211 gaz.. Always take the forgiveness.
I am listening, so many people keep saying the same, I’ll explain it in my next driver vlog, I appreciate what you’re saying though 😩
@@garymartingolf I have had 3 pxg drivers, 0211, gen 4 0811 x and xf. The 0211 and 0811xf are fairway finders. The x is longer but not by much. I will take forgiveness and accuracy all day over distance. I play off a 4 here in the US. I 9lay with guys who try and bomb every day, end up all over the course. The drive, as you we'll know, is only the first step to the green. Be well