Want to learn more about model railroad operations. Check out this video to learn more about the basic principles of operations. ruclips.net/video/TLAvVGL0tLs/видео.html
Dear Ron. I know you probably won't see this and im not sure if you've already done a video on this but my question is, What Are Essential Building To have in a Rail Yard, I just ordered an yard office but that is gonna seem like too little. Any ideas? Here's the link to my track plan: www.reddit.com/r/modeltrains/comments/c2b8bd/what_do_you_guys_think_i_might_add_a_little/?
Hi Ron, I really enjoyed the traffic analysis plan video. I too have a 4 cycle waybill system that uses laminated cards for the way bills and also laminated cards for the cars. I recently conducted a traffic pattern analysis (before i had seen this video) and I have my first session using it next weekend. Before the analysis I had 4 cycle waybills but no structure. Now each session will involve one rotation on the cards e.g rotation 1 will be done and then a check at the end of the rotation to see how we did as a group. Thanks for the great videos.
Ron, And the journey begins. You might like to look at a British model railway at W.W.W. Mckinley Railway. Episode #24, a team effort. Two man operating teams and using I-pads to help with train formation's. Early day's, but they've got a full freight operation to come. Cheers, Chris Perry.
I have worked on switch lists in a op session monthly in a club. It is very much fun and to work on the list and have worked off of computer generated and hand written. Tons of fun when there is several of us in a session.
I enjoy the ROPS on Joel Treachr's layout. He has a picture of the Freight car that has to be dropped or picked and the destinations under the FC picture. I spent an enjoyable afternoon with people I didn't even know. But we all had the same common interest. His son Retired from the L & N in mid 80's just before Norfork Southern took over. Both these guys are a hoot and very intrestering .
Thanks Ron for producing this series, I'm just starting to implement CC&WB into my operating scheme and this series is a big help. As stated in another comment in would be helpful to watch you demonstrate on your layout these various operational schemes.
Great Video Ron. As a new Model RR, this type of information is very important to know. Thanks for making learning it more fun! Appreciate your work. Thanks man. I am still planning my yard and industries as well as what my lines prototypical needs are, but having some guidelines can certainly help with planning.
Hi Ron, Great video. I enjoyed it. Although I did car cards and waybills on my previous layouts, on the new version of the Southern New England I plan to use the car cards and waybills as my reference to generate switch lists prior to the session starting. I found the car cards meant my operators were spending a lot of time shuffling cars - and also sometimes mis-spotted cars when they misinterpreted the waybill instructions for things like in-plant spots and the like. The latter may have been the fault of my waybill writing! Anyway, enjoying the channel - keep it up! Marty McGuirk
Hi, Marty. I just saw this your comment and I am really glad you responded to this video. If I may fanboy a second, I must say I have been a fan of yours since my earliest days in the hobby when you were and editor at Model Railroader. It is nice to see you have found my channel and I greatly appreciate your input.
I’m saw you over on Nick Nimmins stream the other day so came on over. Really appreciate this vid as a uk modeller but US interested always wondered about operations. You have another follower.
Hi I recently inherited a model railroad setup that is previously built but is having wiring issues. I have DC knowledge but wondering if there is a good RUclips video on old DC track and the different switches wiring I can watch to help me?
Hi, Ron. I enjoyed the video. But I'm a visual learning person. Have you made or planning on making a detailed step by step video about this topic. I do remember seeing a video you made on how you make the car cards. I'm not new to the hobby, but I am new to how you arrange the cars for dispatch. Thank you for your response earlier. From Jeff.
gGreat series Ron. in addition to JMRI, "Ship It " is a good software program for generating switch lists, it is realistic, has a good support system and an easy way to find errors made: There is a "ending car positions" to check for correct positioning of cars after a session.
Nice and informative .I have a question . I have some Athens cars that lean .weight is correct and centered above the trucks not to high metal wheel sets ,trucks tuned ,kadee #5 couplers and boxes 22inch radishes and truck screws are tight but have plenty play couplers are correct height..... What can I do? Joe
Car in-Car out works good where you don't want to have to read car numbers and or don't want to identify cars individually. Smaller scales (N or Z) and modular layouts are good candidates for this type of system.
I considered JMRI but because I have industries to be modeled that get specific cars with specific reporting marks I think I am going with a sort of relaxed CC&WB system. Basically they will have a card that tells where they can go on the layout and let the crews in the main classification yards decide where they go. Like certain covered hoppers go on a manifest freight or go on the local to interchange with the railroad that serves the salt mine the cars are loaded at. Since JMRI decides by car type, it would have the wrong cars going there and wouldn't be realistic. Or maybe have JMRI for some of the industries but not for the ones that need specific cars.
You can set up JMRI to send specific cars to specific industries. I would suggest NOT mixing CC&WB with JMRI, go one way or the other. It will be much simpler. Another version of CC&WB that I don't believe was mentioned was car card with no waybill. On the car card you list 5-10-40 sequential destinations (some even make a grid of 5-10 destinations and 5-10 columns. You can use a marker (paperclip) to indicate what the active move is or you can check off the destination when its done and then the destination is the next one on the list/grid.
It was changed a couple years ago on MicroMark's end. I did a search and replace on the descriptions of my videos to update to the new code, but every once in awhile I find one that didn't work properly. The new code is RTRAINS. Thanks for calling this to my attention.
HA... @ 5:42... the REAL railroads could benefit from using the car tab system... the UP actually loses railcars... I don't know the exact number but it's enough that they put SOME of them on their UPTV channel (UPTV is only played in yard offices on UP property for those who may be wondering)… if an employee finds a car on the missing car list , they get a free box of Omaha steaks... (for some reason as far as I can recall, plastic pellet cars were always on the list)
I never found out... there were always new numbers on the list... but no one knows if they found the lost cars or if they just stopped looking for them... I always kept an eye out, I wanted a box of FREE steaks...(me and my engineer even hatched a plan to "hide" a car until it made the list and collect on the free steaks... we never went through with it though)
Hi Tom! I would like you to know that you and your work inspired me to open my own RUclips channel. The CRIADOR DE MUNDOS (Creator of Worlds) channel makes miniatures and terrains for tabletop games (Dungeon&Dragons) for the Brazilian viewer. Thanks for all your knowledge. Best regards, Alex.
The combination of a car card and a waybill is the equivalent of a prototype railroad document called a waybill which is the basis for directing the car movement.
Given that I probably won't have any industries on my layout, I'll just set up freight cars at random. Like having one track be for tankers, another for hoppers, another for boxcars, etc. And possibly a track for coaches.
There are two different types of switch lists. JMRI and the type Ron described is what is sometimes called a "work order". Its used to work industries. There is a second type of switch list used in a yard and it isn't normally computer generated. It is structured differently from a work order type "switch list".
Want to learn more about model railroad operations. Check out this video to learn more about the basic principles of operations. ruclips.net/video/TLAvVGL0tLs/видео.html
Dear Ron. I know you probably won't see this and im not sure if you've already done a video on this but my question is, What Are Essential Building To have in a Rail Yard, I just ordered an yard office but that is gonna seem like too little. Any ideas? Here's the link to my track plan: www.reddit.com/r/modeltrains/comments/c2b8bd/what_do_you_guys_think_i_might_add_a_little/?
Hi Ron, I really enjoyed the traffic analysis plan video. I too have a 4 cycle waybill system that uses laminated cards for the way bills and also laminated cards for the cars. I recently conducted a traffic pattern analysis (before i had seen this video) and I have my first session using it next weekend. Before the analysis I had 4 cycle waybills but no structure. Now each session will involve one rotation on the cards e.g rotation 1 will be done and then a check at the end of the rotation to see how we did as a group. Thanks for the great videos.
Ron, I have watched this 101 series several times and have learned so much. Thanks!
THANK YOU FOR DETAILED VIDEO
FROM AUSTRALIA
Ron, And the journey begins. You might like to look at a British model railway at W.W.W. Mckinley Railway. Episode #24, a team effort. Two man operating teams and using I-pads to help with train formation's. Early day's, but they've got a full freight operation to come. Cheers, Chris Perry.
We like to see trains run too! A brief demonstration on a layout would make it more interesting.
I have worked on switch lists in a op session monthly in a club. It is very much fun and to work on the list and have worked off of computer generated and hand written. Tons of fun when there is several of us in a session.
I enjoy the ROPS on Joel Treachr's layout. He has a picture of the Freight car that has to be dropped or picked and the destinations under the FC picture.
I spent an enjoyable afternoon with people I didn't even know. But we all had the same common interest.
His son Retired from the L & N in mid 80's just before Norfork Southern took over. Both these guys are a hoot and very intrestering .
Not an easy topic to explain to novice model railroaders, you did a great job. Looking forward to more.
Thanks.
Thanks Ron for producing this series, I'm just starting to implement CC&WB into my operating scheme and this series is a big help. As stated in another comment in would be helpful to watch you demonstrate on your layout these various operational schemes.
No thumbs down! Great job Ron. I enjoyed your breakdown of car forwarding.
Hey, John. Yes, and that's saying something on this topic. Lol.
Great Video Ron. As a new Model RR, this type of information is very important to know. Thanks for making learning it more fun! Appreciate your work. Thanks man. I am still planning my yard and industries as well as what my lines prototypical needs are, but having some guidelines can certainly help with planning.
Thanks and I look forward seeing how it progresses.
Hi Ron,
Great video. I enjoyed it. Although I did car cards and waybills on my previous layouts, on the new version of the Southern New England I plan to use the car cards and waybills as my reference to generate switch lists prior to the session starting. I found the car cards meant my operators were spending a lot of time shuffling cars - and also sometimes mis-spotted cars when they misinterpreted the waybill instructions for things like in-plant spots and the like. The latter may have been the fault of my waybill writing! Anyway, enjoying the channel - keep it up!
Marty McGuirk
Hi, Marty. I just saw this your comment and I am really glad you responded to this video. If I may fanboy a second, I must say I have been a fan of yours since my earliest days in the hobby when you were and editor at Model Railroader. It is nice to see you have found my channel and I greatly appreciate your input.
@@RonsTrainsNThings Thanks for the kind words Ron. It's nice to be remembered!
THANK YOU FOR DETAIL VIDEO ON OPERATIONS
I’m saw you over on Nick Nimmins stream the other day so came on over. Really appreciate this vid as a uk modeller but US interested always wondered about operations. You have another follower.
Thanks for the comment and welcome to the channel.
Hi I recently inherited a model railroad setup that is previously built but is having wiring issues. I have DC knowledge but wondering if there is a good RUclips video on old DC track and the different switches wiring I can watch to help me?
Hi, Ron. I enjoyed the video. But I'm a visual learning person. Have you made or planning on making a detailed step by step video about this topic. I do remember seeing a video you made on how you make the car cards. I'm not new to the hobby, but I am new to how you arrange the cars for dispatch. Thank you for your response earlier. From Jeff.
Great video, still attempting to figure out my system. Thank for explaining each system.
Thanks Ron, I've wanted to know how to set up those card people are using. Great info.
gGreat series Ron. in addition to JMRI, "Ship It " is a good software program for generating switch lists, it is realistic, has a good support system and an easy way to find errors made: There is a "ending car positions" to check for correct positioning of cars after a session.
Nice and informative .I have a question . I have some Athens cars that lean .weight is correct and centered above the trucks not to high metal wheel sets ,trucks tuned ,kadee #5 couplers and boxes 22inch radishes and truck screws are tight but have plenty play couplers are correct height..... What can I do? Joe
Great video, Ron. This really helps me. Thanks. - Drew
Thanks.
Ron! We miss you! Hope all is well, good bless!
Hey man. I'm back now and glad to be. Thanks for the comment.
Hi Ron, Thanks for sharing this video!
Hi Ron great explanation on how different people do operations , looking forward to more ,Take care for now ,Mac
Lots of good information, decently something i need to learn more about
Thanks, Joe. Good to hear from you.
Thanks for a great video on operations, i learned a lot and picked up some tricks. Thanks for sharing, glad you back
Car in-Car out works good where you don't want to have to read car numbers and or don't want to identify cars individually. Smaller scales (N or Z) and modular layouts are good candidates for this type of system.
Thanks so much Ron.
Mike
Thanks.
Ron love this series of Operations. Bob
I considered JMRI but because I have industries to be modeled that get specific cars with specific reporting marks I think I am going with a sort of relaxed CC&WB system. Basically they will have a card that tells where they can go on the layout and let the crews in the main classification yards decide where they go. Like certain covered hoppers go on a manifest freight or go on the local to interchange with the railroad that serves the salt mine the cars are loaded at. Since JMRI decides by car type, it would have the wrong cars going there and wouldn't be realistic. Or maybe have JMRI for some of the industries but not for the ones that need specific cars.
You can set up JMRI to send specific cars to specific industries. I would suggest NOT mixing CC&WB with JMRI, go one way or the other. It will be much simpler. Another version of CC&WB that I don't believe was mentioned was car card with no waybill. On the car card you list 5-10-40 sequential destinations (some even make a grid of 5-10 destinations and 5-10 columns. You can use a marker (paperclip) to indicate what the active move is or you can check off the destination when its done and then the destination is the next one on the list/grid.
Where's the Micro Mart promo code?
It was changed a couple years ago on MicroMark's end. I did a search and replace on the descriptions of my videos to update to the new code, but every once in awhile I find one that didn't work properly. The new code is RTRAINS. Thanks for calling this to my attention.
very educational
Thanks.
HA... @ 5:42... the REAL railroads could benefit from using the car tab system... the UP actually loses railcars... I don't know the exact number but it's enough that they put SOME of them on their UPTV channel (UPTV is only played in yard offices on UP property for those who may be wondering)… if an employee finds a car on the missing car list , they get a free box of Omaha steaks... (for some reason as far as I can recall, plastic pellet cars were always on the list)
That cracks me up. How often or what percentage of them would you guess are found in a timely fassion?
I never found out... there were always new numbers on the list... but no one knows if they found the lost cars or if they just stopped looking for them... I always kept an eye out, I wanted a box of FREE steaks...(me and my engineer even hatched a plan to "hide" a car until it made the list and collect on the free steaks... we never went through with it though)
Hi Tom! I would like you to know that you and your work inspired me to open my own RUclips channel. The CRIADOR DE MUNDOS (Creator of Worlds) channel makes miniatures and terrains for tabletop games (Dungeon&Dragons) for the Brazilian viewer. Thanks for all your knowledge. Best regards, Alex.
The combination of a car card and a waybill is the equivalent of a prototype railroad document called a waybill which is the basis for directing the car movement.
This is an interesting start to a series....however, what happened to you? Haven't posted in a month or more, miss ya.
Life happened, but I'm back now.
I use DC.
All my trains were made in the 1980s.
Given that I probably won't have any industries on my layout, I'll just set up freight cars at random. Like having one track be for tankers, another for hoppers, another for boxcars, etc. And possibly a track for coaches.
There are two different types of switch lists. JMRI and the type Ron described is what is sometimes called a "work order". Its used to work industries. There is a second type of switch list used in a yard and it isn't normally computer generated. It is structured differently from a work order type "switch list".