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@herrflammen6487 we didn't loose Arthur, he is a fictional character, just cuz that death hurt doesn't mean it's on the same caliber as millions that this real plauge has consumed
just like we're pretending that there never were any "complications" with vaccines, or drugs overall, sold for huge amounts of profits. look, i'm not sayin' "dont vaxx your kids", but on the other hand... did you get the iconic vaccine on the sugar cube, like all our parents & grandparents? no? only third world countires get those now? gee, i wonder why...
@@peterchenbutterbrot278 Because sugar cubes are a lot less scary than needles full of mystery juice. They're also a lot easier to distribute and administer than hypodermics, due to all the biohazard management stuff that has to be taken care of. Nobody who knows how vaccines work would honestly say that they are 100% effective, but complications are so rare that a person would be far more likely to die from falling in the shower.
That is going to be very head ache inducing though. Just imagine all the technical names of medical substances. Remember the -Euclidean Geometry- videos? (Edit: It's the Quantum Computing one, I mean.)
@@minaly22 Euclidean Geometry was pretty easy to follow along with all the technical names, Quantum Computing was worse. all in all, an "Extra Medicine" side of Extra Credits would be really fun to watch...
I think this is a bad advice here, I'd say you should try to convince your doctor to prescribe no antibiotics, but if he/she eventually does, take it! Lung infections can kill even young and otherwise healthy people or decrease lung capacity for life.
@@Regic If the disease is viral like Erin mentioned, antibiotics won't do anything, as viruses are just little DNA pockets - they are not alive. Unnecessary antibiotics play a massive role in the development of antibiotic resistant bacteria, which are a danger to everyone. Antibiotics should not be prescribed just to make someone 'feel like they are being treated' or when the actual disease is unknown.
@@Regic Except that antibiotics should never be used when unwarranted, in that case they just damage your gut by eradicating healthy bacteria that lives there, which makes you weaker. Do you really want to crap yourself when you sneeze? That's what antibiotics do to people with flu, make their stomach weak. You don't need even more dehydration when you're infected either.
I think regic just missed the viral portion guys. Though, reminds me of the time when a doctor prescribed a course of antibiotics, antivirals, and antifungals, because they had no clue what was going on. Great times. (I had thrush as an adult, and a secondary infection under that. Antifungal mouthwash for the thrush? which actually tasted good to my shock, and the other 2 for the unknown infection)
I had TB a couple of years back. By the time I went to the Doctor my right lung had collapsed under a massive pleural effusion and my remaining lung was riddled with infection - see your doctor kids!. Turned out it was the bovine variant resistant to one of the four standard drugs, so I had to be on combination antibiotic therapy for 9 months despite "feeling better" after only two weeks. I eventually got used to the nausea but damn I was glad when I stopped needing to take 14 tablets a day. I relapsed 3 months later and due to a medical cock-up couldn't take antibiotics (seriously how do you screw up 3 bronchoscopies in a row?) but by that stage my immune system seemed to have lost patience and promptly beat it into the dust without any help. Still no idea how I got it in the first place though.
Man, so even tuberculosis finds Jersey to be inhospitable? Also, fun fact: prisoners treated for TB have a higher cure rate because it's easier to make sure they finish the whole treatment.
In an age where anti-vaxxers and other science rejection is becoming bolder, it’s good to see people trying to be responsible and inform people of the truth.
People are forgetting. We've lived for so long in an age of relative safety from deadly communicable diseases, that the masses have become ignorant of the threat they pose. Those of them who choose to remain ignorant, or those who distrust science and medicine, now threaten that very safety.
The problem for most anti-vaxxers ist, that they dont get presented the numbers. which is REALLY dumb, if you try to convince someone with a logical circumstance, because you NEED to give out the numbers, otherwise it is just pointless to claim that you have a logical point.
@@beerenmusli8220 Oh.. They get presented the numbers. It's all fake, big pharma blah blah blah when you do that. Because THEIR numbers are REAL, YOURS are FAKE.
@@rhorybader4054 Okay... Show me the numbers than, and tell me the timestamp in this video where the numbers were presented. And dont shout at me. Seriously, if you are lacking the intelligence to not scream to someone that complained about respect and transparancy, you are just not capable of basic logic.
Between this one, the Spanish Flu, and the John Snow videos, I'm loving this "History of Medicine" branch of Extra History! Any other disease episodes on the radar? HIV? West Nile Virus?
Oh dude, the West Nile Virus has a super interesting history behind it! Hearing about it in university was like peering in to one big mystery and trying to connect the dots to find out who the culprit was. Riveting stuff, honestly.
According to the History and national Geographic documentaries I see about subjects I was well-informed... It is not really hard to be better than them ^^
My dad and mom were among the scientific "foot-soldiers" in the battle against TB during and after WWII. See my comment in part 1 if you want details. Thank you, Extra Credits, for discussing this important topic.
"The Dirt of New Jersey" *shudders in abstract horror* Liked the video! As someone who is half deaf, I can say with certainty that it's not as problematic as a deadly disease, so even if that side effect occurs, better than the alternative.
I know your pain, Rob! Got resistant strain of Brocites back at Thanksgiving, it devolved into pneumonia and then left me wide open of viral laryngitis. Spent an entire week laid up in bed with off an on fevers. Still hacking up flem now, so keep o fighting and don't give up yet!!!
@@acerola1593 Mabe with the bronchitis and pneumonia, but I get laryngitis every year around this time. This was a bad case with all 3 no doubt but the flu would have been far worse.
Okay, this is no joke, I legit finished my whole course of antibiotics for pretty harsh bronchitis today. It's such a coicidence I watched this video today!
As a healthcare professional, allow me to thank you for this video. It is extremely important that the message about drug resistant pathogens get out . Thank you Extra History.
My grandma had tb, along with both of her parents and 2 sisters, and was the only one to survive it in her family. She often talks of the times when she was in the hospital (of sorts) she stayed in until she was cured, and how it affected her outlook on life for the rest of her life and helped her find faith
I had bronchitis after the flu. I took the full course of antibiotics because I knew this FROM YOUR VIDEO and the doctor recommended it. My joints swelled. I have to have surgery to move my jaw's disc back into place. BUT. my kids, nieces, and nephews didn't get it. That's worth everything.
Thank you SO much for covering this topic. I have been working in the field of anti-mycobacterial agents for a few years now and it makes me proud to see the legacy on which our work of today builds being presented so nicely in your videos. It does a tremendous job at explaining all the hurdles scientists face in dealing with the ever lasting TB problem.
In fact, there is a third great problem with TB, along with airplane travel and AIDS. Resistance became very high in many countries, specially in Eastern Europe, where the supply of anti-TB drugs was not regular. It makes TB much harder to treat.
I remember back in bootcamp being tested for TB. I was simultaneously confused as to why they were testing and worried I'd come up positive. I hadn't realized at the time it still existed as strongly as it does.
My Mom is one if those who refused to follow the entire TB antibiotic regiment because it gave her bad dreams. It is a medical note that always gets me poked in a doctor’s office more.
I am one of the lucky ones. I contracted TB when I was 4-5 years old. It is fucking horrible. The weight loss and coughing alone nearly killed me. I am not hyperbolizing. I nearly died. I thank my medical team and all the researchers involved for my life. Without their tireless determination and drive to eradicate this disease, I wouldn't be here commenting today.
That ending where he talked about needing to eradicate the disease now that we've cured it reminded me of one of my favorite board games, "Pandemic". It fits nicely with this video. The players are a team trying to eradicate some plagues before it's too late. Each player gets different talents so they need to work together to discover cures and then treat all of the infected cities. It's a bit like Risk, but you're all on the same team and the games don't run as long.
I contracted TB giving tutoring while in college. I got notified I should be tested after one of my students tested positive for an active case. When I went to get my test (I live in Texas in the USA) they thought I was doing it as a formality for a health care job. The nurse got confused when I told her I was actually getting tested because I had been exposed. They had to pull out a medical book to compare my response to confirm I was positive. Luckily I was caught early before it had developed. They put me on a six month course of heavy antibiotics. No alcohol, huge list of drugs to avoid and it made me feel miserable. One hell of a crash diet. But I stuck with it and the treatment worked. The same for my student. The moral is, even in the most developed places, it isn't impossible to get. If you get exposed, get tested right away. If you have it, take the medicine. All of it. The half a year of suffering is worth your life. And I hope none of the rest of the watchers ever have to deal with it.
It's really sad that these unsung heroes get forgotten by all but medical history. Why won't mainstream stuff cover the lives of scientists? It could be like a detective drama; we see the story of each scientist working on some small aspect of the case. Then at the end, we see the last scientist summing it all up for people who can't follow plots easily.
Because most of the times, it was perceived as boring and interesting. You put things on petri dishes, you wait, you drip a chemical or two, you wait, you see things on microscope and write them in chicken scratch that nobody can read but you, you wait, you wash everything and put back everything to storage before going home, you write your research and compares data, then you sleep. Rinse and repeat every working day. Common wisdom dictates that you need drama and/ or tension to make interesting stories. And most writers aren't exactly Ph.D on microbiology or chemistry or Ph.D in anything, really.
I love extra history, but man, this one I gotta praise in particular. The advice in the end of the video is one of the most important things for public health that people still ignore. Antibiotic treatments are usually uncomfortable, but taking them in the precise time windows and throughout the WHOLE course of the treatment is not only the best way to recover from a disease, but ALSO to prevent bacterial resistance to antibiotics. As a biologist and researcher (even though bacteriology is not my field), I felt the need to praise you guys for mentioning this. Amazing, fantastic work, and all best wishes for Rob to recover from his bronchitis AND to everyone on Extra Credits.
And governments should vaccinate any and all refugees they take in, too, because anyone who ends up as one probably can't afford to get them wherever they fled from.
@@Roxor128 We do in fact do that. You are required to provide vaccination records if you want to apply for a change of status. It's ironic that they (and other immigrants) are most likely better vaccinated than the American public.
I love the Extra History vaccine series. In this increasingly divisive world, the international cooperation on medical technology is the something we could look back and take pride in for these great scientists and contributors
My grandmother lost her father to TB at a single-digit age. They moved to the coast for the healthy air, and more or less everything in her early life was dictated by TB in one way or another. A cousin of hers told someone at her father's funeral "those girls won't live long either". They are now both well over 90. TB can suck it.
Today i was told i was exposed to Tuberculosis, had to get a chest x ray. Of test reveal positive, I'm out of work for nine months, after just getting finding the job.
There's something horrifying and poetic about the greatest threat to humanity being something that, even despite our incredible science and technology, microbes still are our greatest existential threat. Thousands of years of the greatest minds coming together and still disease looms.
I once didn't complete my antibiotic course. I was 17 at the time, and I was traveling quite a lot between 2 cities. Often staying for weeks in a different city than the one with the pharmacy I normally used. I was too lazy to keep track of my antibiotics and too lazy to go to a different pharmacy. If I had known how resistent bacteria worked I would have taken a lot more care. I hope the future generation is educated well on the importance of finishing your course
Thanks for spreading the word about the vast negative consequences of not taking antibiotics and teaching the world about the history of tuberculosis Extra Credits! If more people like you communicated to the world the dangers of antibiotic resistance, the earth would become a much healthier place.
I'm doing pharmacy right now, and we just learned this today in class. You helped understand this better. Thank you Extra Credit! And who knows? Maybe you guys well do a EC about me one day 👌
Really interesting to see the difference of 50 odd years. Most people don’t know anything about tb, smallpox, cholera etc but a few decades ago it was one of the top concerns
I love your videos they are so fun, and intellectually and visually stimulating, this one though IS SO GREAT. I am a strong advocate for proper vaccination, I have never considered the importance of finishing a course of antibiotics in relation to anti biotic resistant Disease developing. Thank you for opening up this beautiful, entertaining and just so fascinating aspect of medicine to me. You guys have really changed my life for better by helping me not only reinforce my critical thinking skills but introducing in a very informative way, topics that blossom with logic. Thank you, all of you at extra credits for creating some of the best slices of media out there. And helping so many people while doing it.
Good job on this series. It´s really important because a friend of mine got Tuberculosis a few months ago and it wasn´t clear if he would have to repeat 12th grade right before our A levels. And we live in Munich, Germany and not a development country with a bad healt system
"That's [one man vs a disease] not how science works in the modern world." It's not how science has ever worked, really. How many people (assistants, caretakers, people who low-key did all the actual math, records from generations past) do you suppose Copernicus or Archimedes stepped over uncredited? Nearly every "great man of science" from the modern era, upon investigation, was standing on shoulders they didn't mention, so it's a fair assumption that all of them from other eras were too. Science is, by necessity and definition, never a solo activity.
Thanks for this series mang, I will share this series for people who try to skip out on multiple medications (possibly to educate them or at least scare them to pursue it)
If you want, a french youtuber made a video about it. And it did have english subtitles, so feel free to check ^^ ruclips.net/video/WQVYWUsrfbk/видео.html
Tested positive for TB a few years ago, but since I'm asymptomatic and not infectous (according to my doctors) it's been less important for me to take the pills. Mostly because they all said I'd need 9 months of regular treatments and check ups which have been pretty unlikely for me. So my plan is to take them when I'll be able to take the full amount and be proven cured, to prevent it from growing resistant.
Happens more often than you think. Usually since the student is not actually working on his own research any findings he/she has is property of his teacher/lead researcher and is up to the lead to grant credit where it is due. You get many who will just publish everyone's names as in such a large trial it is mostly a matter of luck (they tested like a 100 different bacterias) ,but now and then you get glory hoggers who take all the credit.
Unfortunately, this is not as simple as it may seem. Let me tell you from my experience as someone who is working in science: in my daily work, I am standing in the lab, performing experiments, evaluating primary data, etc. The big plan (and a lot of the pre-work, really) is and was done by my supervisor. I regularly discuss my work with her and while I do most of the handiwork, she is doing most of the planning. What experiments are most likely to yield insights? What are reasonable hypotheses about the bigger picture? That is stuff you need to consider and it's not easy (if not straight up impossible if you're working in the lab for at least 9h a day). So, who of us should be creditted for a potential finding? Me, the student, for I did the lab work? or my supervisor, for she planned the project? Now imagine a supervisor who has not one or two, but many more people working at a bigger project. Most of the time, it makes perfect sense that the coordinating mind behind the hard work that is basic science gets the credit in the end. Modern science is a group effort as it is so nicely put in the video above. And while there are certain big players, I personally have no one as "the single-most genius scientist" in my field.
The more I learn of history, be it medical/scientific or political, modern or ancient, the more certain I am that the most powerful tools in humanity's toolbox, our most powerful weapons in our arsenal are persistence, dilligence, cooperation, trust, openmindedness, and well directed rage.
chess platinum A friend told me she hates going to the doctor because “they only want to sell you drugs”. I can’t barely get my doctor to prescribe me antibiotics when I have blood in my mucus...
It's actually both. HIV treatments exist now, though not as simple as a vaccine. Then you got people burning 3 and 4G towers cause they 'spread da varus'. Humans are funny, both types exist.
Re-watching this after having watched the film the wind rises of the studio ghibli it's heart breaking. The film was on it's own but with this added it's truly hope-destructing
This video is so interesting! It’s actually really nice to see because for the past two years I’ve actually had an infection in the TB family and it was funny hearing the list of drugs i take and their side effects- like Amakacin- the one that causes hearing loss. A lot of people don’t know about what I have. Thank you extra credits for always being excellent educators and teachers!
Kudos for an excellent capsule history of the disease! I worked in various aspects of medicine, for over 20 years, and this still managed to enlighten me. :)
Tuberculosis has followed us like a shadow for the entirety of human history. It is the closest thing humanity has to a biological
nemesis, but it wasn't until 1944 that we found a cure. Get more cool history videos like this one by joining our Patreon! bit.ly/EHPatreon
Every child needs a health checkup at least once a year. If you live in Minnesota, learn more at GetCTC.com. If you don’t, check here: www.medicaid.gov/medicaid/benefits/epsdt/index.html
Thanks for the info
Hell yeah Minnesota is the best state but it's cold as fuck here
Extra History is my favorite part of Extra Credits
Tuberculosis killed the greatest of Indian leaders.
I think to kill it we will have to use some help from the greatest killers in the world - bacteriophages
When I worked in pathology, I had a doctor accidentally stick me with a needle that had taken a TB specimen.
good times. I didn't die.
Sounds like it was a very bad day
Are you sure you didn't die?
It doesn't work like this with TB
Pretty sure he's dead.
He's just talking to us from the spirit world
What?
I tested positive for TB over 40 years ago. At my local health department. And took the ENTIRE prescribed medication regime. A win for modern science!
@Viscot I'm doing quite well, thank you. Never had any issues related to TB.
Congrats! For not dying?
Same cant be said about arthur morgan
@@animatedalex619 I know it's been about 4 years now, but...TOO SOON Q.Q
@briangarrow448 Thanks, mate!
“But…I tried. And in the end… i did”
-a legend we lost to this terrible disease
Arthur Morgan?
@@gossipguiiz4145 correct
@herrflammen6487 we didn't loose Arthur, he is a fictional character, just cuz that death hurt doesn't mean it's on the same caliber as millions that this real plauge has consumed
@@znuffyztruggles5744 he's real in our hearts
@@znuffyztruggles5744 Chopin?
Scientists: *invents tuberculosis vaccine*
Antivaxxers: *I'm going to pretend I didn't see that*
@Führer des Benutzers god i wish
just like we're pretending that there never were any "complications" with vaccines, or drugs overall, sold for huge amounts of profits. look, i'm not sayin' "dont vaxx your kids", but on the other hand... did you get the iconic vaccine on the sugar cube, like all our parents & grandparents? no? only third world countires get those now? gee, i wonder why...
@@peterchenbutterbrot278 Because sugar cubes are a lot less scary than needles full of mystery juice. They're also a lot easier to distribute and administer than hypodermics, due to all the biohazard management stuff that has to be taken care of. Nobody who knows how vaccines work would honestly say that they are 100% effective, but complications are so rare that a person would be far more likely to die from falling in the shower.
@@peterchenbutterbrot278 Enjoy your dead kids, I'm just gonna be over here, not paralyzed because I caught polio as a child.
@@genesis_ink bruh vaccinate them against everything so they dont fucking suffer
You guys should make "Extra Medicine"
That is going to be very head ache inducing though. Just imagine all the technical names of medical substances. Remember the -Euclidean Geometry- videos? (Edit: It's the Quantum Computing one, I mean.)
Yes
@@minaly22 Euclidean Geometry was pretty easy to follow along with all the technical names, Quantum Computing was worse. all in all, an "Extra Medicine" side of Extra Credits would be really fun to watch...
@@zachsmith1676 Oops! Agreed. The Quantum Computing one was really difficult. Gonna edit.
Oy mate your going to jail ned kelly
Finish your antibiotics *and* don't try to badger some poor healthcare practitioner into giving them to you when what you've got is viral!
Also vaccinate your damn kids
I think this is a bad advice here, I'd say you should try to convince your doctor to prescribe no antibiotics, but if he/she eventually does, take it! Lung infections can kill even young and otherwise healthy people or decrease lung capacity for life.
@@Regic If the disease is viral like Erin mentioned, antibiotics won't do anything, as viruses are just little DNA pockets - they are not alive. Unnecessary antibiotics play a massive role in the development of antibiotic resistant bacteria, which are a danger to everyone. Antibiotics should not be prescribed just to make someone 'feel like they are being treated' or when the actual disease is unknown.
@@Regic Except that antibiotics should never be used when unwarranted, in that case they just damage your gut by eradicating healthy bacteria that lives there, which makes you weaker. Do you really want to crap yourself when you sneeze? That's what antibiotics do to people with flu, make their stomach weak. You don't need even more dehydration when you're infected either.
I think regic just missed the viral portion guys.
Though, reminds me of the time when a doctor prescribed a course of antibiotics, antivirals, and antifungals, because they had no clue what was going on.
Great times.
(I had thrush as an adult, and a secondary infection under that. Antifungal mouthwash for the thrush? which actually tasted good to my shock, and the other 2 for the unknown infection)
I had TB a couple of years back. By the time I went to the Doctor my right lung had collapsed under a massive pleural effusion and my remaining lung was riddled with infection - see your doctor kids!. Turned out it was the bovine variant resistant to one of the four standard drugs, so I had to be on combination antibiotic therapy for 9 months despite "feeling better" after only two weeks. I eventually got used to the nausea but damn I was glad when I stopped needing to take 14 tablets a day. I relapsed 3 months later and due to a medical cock-up couldn't take antibiotics (seriously how do you screw up 3 bronchoscopies in a row?) but by that stage my immune system seemed to have lost patience and promptly beat it into the dust without any help. Still no idea how I got it in the first place though.
I knew someone who caught it from a mission trip to Canada. He had no clue how he caught it.
it's usually difficult to track back the exact place...
sorry about your lungs
Man, so even tuberculosis finds Jersey to be inhospitable?
Also, fun fact: prisoners treated for TB have a higher cure rate because it's easier to make sure they finish the whole treatment.
can't be as bad as Texas.
*Can't be as bad as Kansas.*
Can't be as bad as California 🤢
In an age where anti-vaxxers and other science rejection is becoming bolder, it’s good to see people trying to be responsible and inform people of the truth.
Agreed
People are forgetting. We've lived for so long in an age of relative safety from deadly communicable diseases, that the masses have become ignorant of the threat they pose. Those of them who choose to remain ignorant, or those who distrust science and medicine, now threaten that very safety.
The problem for most anti-vaxxers ist, that they dont get presented the numbers. which is REALLY dumb, if you try to convince someone with a logical circumstance, because you NEED to give out the numbers, otherwise it is just pointless to claim that you have a logical point.
@@beerenmusli8220 Oh.. They get presented the numbers. It's all fake, big pharma blah blah blah when you do that. Because THEIR numbers are REAL, YOURS are FAKE.
@@rhorybader4054 Okay... Show me the numbers than, and tell me the timestamp in this video where the numbers were presented. And dont shout at me. Seriously, if you are lacking the intelligence to not scream to someone that complained about respect and transparancy, you are just not capable of basic logic.
Having Tuberculosis just makes you want a vacation in Tahiti.
We Had a god damn PLAN!!!!
~Dutch van der Linde, Circa 1899
Have faith in me.
I mean you could also go to Australia. But you know "TAhITi" - Dutch van der linde 1899
@@mind_nomad6873 HAVE SOME GOD DAMN FAITH
Damn it I thought you said Guarma
Between this one, the Spanish Flu, and the John Snow videos, I'm loving this "History of Medicine" branch of Extra History! Any other disease episodes on the radar? HIV? West Nile Virus?
I vote for leprosy.
Did they ever do the Black Death? I don't remember if they did
Umbrella's T-Virus
Oh dude, the West Nile Virus has a super interesting history behind it! Hearing about it in university was like peering in to one big mystery and trying to connect the dots to find out who the culprit was. Riveting stuff, honestly.
Possibly smallpox?
To be honest, Extra Credits is one the best gems I ever found on RUclips. Better than National Geographics or History
According to the History and national Geographic documentaries I see about subjects I was well-informed... It is not really hard to be better than them ^^
Who saved humanity?
Thats right.
Cowpole.
With a plan of bismark. Because bismark always has a plan
@@jeannebouwman1970 And, faith...
@@jeannebouwman1970 Biscow... Biscow always has a plan.
Keep with the theme ;)
Maank, Biscowpole, you mean.
*Cowpoke?
And once again we see why you shouldn't ignore scientific/medical advice.
Unless you are the one that happens to be the accidental guinea pig of course
@Alfa&Omega 00000 bro this was 2 months ago I've got no clue....
If tuberculosis is our nemesis, does that make anti-vaxxers double Agents?
It make 'em dirty traitors!
Yes, and should be charged with treason XD.
@@ANTSEMUT1 - _High_ treason. We are at war with TB, after all.
It's treason, then.
We must secure the heretics
@@kitchenjail3546 unironically send them to proper education camp/gulags.
My dad and mom were among the scientific "foot-soldiers" in the battle against TB during and after WWII. See my comment in part 1 if you want details. Thank you, Extra Credits, for discussing this important topic.
"The Dirt of New Jersey"
*shudders in abstract horror*
Liked the video! As someone who is half deaf, I can say with certainty that it's not as problematic as a deadly disease, so even if that side effect occurs, better than the alternative.
I know your pain, Rob! Got resistant strain of Brocites back at Thanksgiving, it devolved into pneumonia and then left me wide open of viral laryngitis. Spent an entire week laid up in bed with off an on fevers. Still hacking up flem now, so keep o fighting and don't give up yet!!!
@@acerola1593 Mabe with the bronchitis and pneumonia, but I get laryngitis every year around this time. This was a bad case with all 3 no doubt but the flu would have been far worse.
@@kalemercer7053 Mostly the Bronchitis, anti biotic resistant bugs are real dangerous
“So how’d you get TB?”
“I got it...beating a man to death...all for a few dollars”
"I guess... I'm afraid"
Very well researched. I did my PhD on TB and I was especially impressed by your mention of persistence.
My mother survived TB back when that didn't usually happen. She lost a younger brother to it. Thank you.
1:16 I love the little attention to detail there. It's an actual checkmate instead of just a single piece moving.
3:47 as a new Jerseyian I can confirm that the dirt of NJ is the most exotic dirt you can find
Best channel. When I have some money I’m becoming a patron. Please don’t stop
So I heard your on a money shortage
How's the finances lately?
Okay, this is no joke, I legit finished my whole course of antibiotics for pretty harsh bronchitis today. It's such a coicidence I watched this video today!
As a healthcare professional, allow me to thank you for this video. It is extremely important that the message about drug resistant pathogens get out . Thank you Extra History.
6:02 so basically they pulled a thanos?
It just works.
Well, only half of it was a Thanos.
TB went extinct due to Thanos in infinity war.
Thanos bacteria
Pshht I guess
My grandma had tb, along with both of her parents and 2 sisters, and was the only one to survive it in her family. She often talks of the times when she was in the hospital (of sorts) she stayed in until she was cured, and how it affected her outlook on life for the rest of her life and helped her find faith
I had bronchitis after the flu. I took the full course of antibiotics because I knew this FROM YOUR VIDEO and the doctor recommended it. My joints swelled. I have to have surgery to move my jaw's disc back into place. BUT. my kids, nieces, and nephews didn't get it. That's worth everything.
Thank you SO much for covering this topic. I have been working in the field of anti-mycobacterial agents for a few years now and it makes me proud to see the legacy on which our work of today builds being presented so nicely in your videos. It does a tremendous job at explaining all the hurdles scientists face in dealing with the ever lasting TB problem.
In fact, there is a third great problem with TB, along with airplane travel and AIDS. Resistance became very high in many countries, specially in Eastern Europe, where the supply of anti-TB drugs was not regular. It makes TB much harder to treat.
This is why I love Extra History. The most random of subjects and the most entertaining of videos!
best for procrastinating but learning at the same time ey
@@meicawsy You know it!
I remember back in bootcamp being tested for TB. I was simultaneously confused as to why they were testing and worried I'd come up positive. I hadn't realized at the time it still existed as strongly as it does.
My Mom is one if those who refused to follow the entire TB antibiotic regiment because it gave her bad dreams. It is a medical note that always gets me poked in a doctor’s office more.
Why are epidemiology stories always so great in in this show
This gives me hope in the times of COVID. After all, solving this won’t be just a master stroke of one genius but collective wisdom of all humanity 😇
I'm a simple man - I see an Extra History upload, and I click.
jerry garcia I am going to feed you your meals
jerry garcia I’m late but I love your username. Such a good band
I am one of the lucky ones. I contracted TB when I was 4-5 years old. It is fucking horrible. The weight loss and coughing alone nearly killed me. I am not hyperbolizing. I nearly died.
I thank my medical team and all the researchers involved for my life. Without their tireless determination and drive to eradicate this disease, I wouldn't be here commenting today.
That ending where he talked about needing to eradicate the disease now that we've cured it reminded me of one of my favorite board games, "Pandemic". It fits nicely with this video. The players are a team trying to eradicate some plagues before it's too late. Each player gets different talents so they need to work together to discover cures and then treat all of the infected cities. It's a bit like Risk, but you're all on the same team and the games don't run as long.
I contracted TB giving tutoring while in college. I got notified I should be tested after one of my students tested positive for an active case. When I went to get my test (I live in Texas in the USA) they thought I was doing it as a formality for a health care job. The nurse got confused when I told her I was actually getting tested because I had been exposed. They had to pull out a medical book to compare my response to confirm I was positive. Luckily I was caught early before it had developed. They put me on a six month course of heavy antibiotics. No alcohol, huge list of drugs to avoid and it made me feel miserable. One hell of a crash diet. But I stuck with it and the treatment worked. The same for my student. The moral is, even in the most developed places, it isn't impossible to get. If you get exposed, get tested right away. If you have it, take the medicine. All of it. The half a year of suffering is worth your life. And I hope none of the rest of the watchers ever have to deal with it.
It's really sad that these unsung heroes get forgotten by all but medical history. Why won't mainstream stuff cover the lives of scientists? It could be like a detective drama; we see the story of each scientist working on some small aspect of the case. Then at the end, we see the last scientist summing it all up for people who can't follow plots easily.
Because most of the times, it was perceived as boring and interesting. You put things on petri dishes, you wait, you drip a chemical or two, you wait, you see things on microscope and write them in chicken scratch that nobody can read but you, you wait, you wash everything and put back everything to storage before going home, you write your research and compares data, then you sleep. Rinse and repeat every working day.
Common wisdom dictates that you need drama and/ or tension to make interesting stories. And most writers aren't exactly Ph.D on microbiology or chemistry or Ph.D in anything, really.
Hollywood still thinks that the only moral from Sci-fi is that technology is evil, you think they’re gonna look at this?
I love extra history, but man, this one I gotta praise in particular.
The advice in the end of the video is one of the most important things for public health that people still ignore. Antibiotic treatments are usually uncomfortable, but taking them in the precise time windows and throughout the WHOLE course of the treatment is not only the best way to recover from a disease, but ALSO to prevent bacterial resistance to antibiotics. As a biologist and researcher (even though bacteriology is not my field), I felt the need to praise you guys for mentioning this.
Amazing, fantastic work, and all best wishes for Rob to recover from his bronchitis AND to everyone on Extra Credits.
You shouldn't be allowed to travel internationally without proof you've been vaccinated.
Edit: Or an exemption for being immunocompromised.
And governments should vaccinate any and all refugees they take in, too, because anyone who ends up as one probably can't afford to get them wherever they fled from.
Great, more paperwork you have to carry around in an airport.
@@chrism7574 You could incorporate the vaccination records into passports.
@ Vaccines are free and mandatory where I live.
@@Roxor128 We do in fact do that. You are required to provide vaccination records if you want to apply for a change of status. It's ironic that they (and other immigrants) are most likely better vaccinated than the American public.
6:04
Human *Snaps*
Tuberculoses: Mr.Bacteria I on’t fell so good...
Tuberculoses: AWWWWW SHHHIII-
*SNAPS*
Never forget, New Jersey saved you from tuberculosus.
Only good thing came from NJ.
Really we should thank the French. Vaccines are the long term fixes.
@@gamesmithy yet it only lasted 10 years
The dirt saved us.
The dirt must be rewarded.
What should we give it . . .
@@ElBandito Hey, no more NJ jokes.
I love the Extra History vaccine series. In this increasingly divisive world, the international cooperation on medical technology is the something we could look back and take pride in for these great scientists and contributors
Humanity - exhausted "why won't you stay dead"
Tb - "ahahahaha"
TB is lowkey Rasputin of the virus world.
@@alanepithet2931 That would be common cold.
@@ElBandito Eh. The common cold's not nearly so bad. It's the annoying neighbor that comes over to borrow your sugar once a week...
@@alanepithet2931 Hmm i think its more like napoleon... maybe simon bolivar
Anti Vaxxers -*proceeds to get sick and stops taking treatment midway* "yeah why won't you stay dead!"
(Sorry for dragging this here)
My grandmother lost her father to TB at a single-digit age. They moved to the coast for the healthy air, and more or less everything in her early life was dictated by TB in one way or another.
A cousin of hers told someone at her father's funeral "those girls won't live long either".
They are now both well over 90. TB can suck it.
0:36 it's Master Hand and Crazy Hand!
The fight rages on!
Also I really need to get a check up soon....
Thank God you guys uploaded the new episode so fast! I was filled with suspense
Not fast enough to save arthur, I guess 😂
Today i was told i was exposed to Tuberculosis, had to get a chest x ray. Of test reveal positive, I'm out of work for nine months, after just getting finding the job.
Damn.
Well, long as you take the medication, you'll recover. Just, good luck on the job part once you do recover.
Not only take the full courses, but also to not take any antibiotics (or meds really) when not prescribed EVEN IF THEY ARE OVER THE COUNTER
There's something horrifying and poetic about the greatest threat to humanity being something that, even despite our incredible science and technology, microbes still are our greatest existential threat. Thousands of years of the greatest minds coming together and still disease looms.
I once didn't complete my antibiotic course. I was 17 at the time, and I was traveling quite a lot between 2 cities. Often staying for weeks in a different city than the one with the pharmacy I normally used.
I was too lazy to keep track of my antibiotics and too lazy to go to a different pharmacy.
If I had known how resistent bacteria worked I would have taken a lot more care. I hope the future generation is educated well on the importance of finishing your course
The greatest scene of all time 6:43
I'm rewatching this part as motivation to finish my anti=virals for Covid. Those side effects SUCK!
But, I gotta do it. For Rob.
Dear extra credits
I want to know your location
-Sincerely Arthur Morgan
Thanks for spreading the word about the vast negative consequences of not taking antibiotics and teaching the world about the history of tuberculosis Extra Credits! If more people like you communicated to the world the dangers of antibiotic resistance, the earth would become a much healthier place.
"They didn't have basic technologies like pottery or the wheel. What they DID have... was tuberculosis"
*spits up coffee* 😨
Well alright then! 😂
I'm doing pharmacy right now, and we just learned this today in class. You helped understand this better. Thank you Extra Credit! And who knows? Maybe you guys well do a EC about me one day 👌
3:49 what the... I LIVE IN NEW JERSEY AND... yea we can't do anything right here fair enough.
Really interesting to see the difference of 50 odd years. Most people don’t know anything about tb, smallpox, cholera etc but a few decades ago it was one of the top concerns
I’ve had tuberculosis. It’s not fun. Take your meds. Ang get those vaccines
I love your videos they are so fun, and intellectually and visually stimulating, this one though IS SO GREAT. I am a strong advocate for proper vaccination, I have never considered the importance of finishing a course of antibiotics in relation to anti biotic resistant Disease developing. Thank you for opening up this beautiful, entertaining and just so fascinating aspect of medicine to me. You guys have really changed my life for better by helping me not only reinforce my critical thinking skills but introducing in a very informative way, topics that blossom with logic. Thank you, all of you at extra credits for creating some of the best slices of media out there. And helping so many people while doing it.
As a Minnesotan, I have to say this sponsorship is weirdly specific. You would think they would focus more on a local advertising campaign.
bobert4343 oh thank god I’m not the only one. It’s so weird to see our state just... acknowledged I guess, in general videos.
Fun Fact: BCG is also now the golden standard immunotherapy treatment option for bladder cancer patients
7:30 This is how I play Zerg. Good luck finding all my drones. *evil laughter*
Thank you for these videos about TB. I suffer it and have to take the treatment twice. Thanks for choosing this topic.
*ARTHUR MORGAN WANTS TO KNOW YOUR LOCATION*
SAME WITH THOMAS DOWNES
DAMN RIGHT BOAH WHERE YOU LIVE?
We all live in *TaHiTi*
Contracted TB when I was a child (about 15 years ago). Had it been a few years back and I won't be here anymore.
they really put some effort into these animations; the chess move at 1:18 is an actual checkmate lel
I live in MN! Although I go to the doctor every week for various health ailments so I don’t need the checkup but my mom got the newsletter!
Haha yeah Arthur Morgan! (ok which series do I need to watch to get these jokes?)
U need to play Red Dead Redemption 2
I'm gonna spoil it a bit but it's from Red Dead 2. The main dude gets it
to explain further the main character of the game red dead redemption 2 dies of tb (or gets shot depending on what ending).
And 60 hours of you life
Dead red derention 3
Good job on this series. It´s really important because a friend of mine got Tuberculosis a few months ago and it wasn´t clear if he would have to repeat 12th grade right before our A levels.
And we live in Munich, Germany and not a development country with a bad healt system
"That's [one man vs a disease] not how science works in the modern world."
It's not how science has ever worked, really. How many people (assistants, caretakers, people who low-key did all the actual math, records from generations past) do you suppose Copernicus or Archimedes stepped over uncredited? Nearly every "great man of science" from the modern era, upon investigation, was standing on shoulders they didn't mention, so it's a fair assumption that all of them from other eras were too. Science is, by necessity and definition, never a solo activity.
man! that closing argument was excellent! great job!!! I'm gonna recommend this to my peers
'It's one hell of a thing son, I'm real sorry for ya'
Oh shit
crap
*Faint Stand unshaken plays*
I’ll never forget you Arthur.
RIP Arthur
Thanks for this series mang, I will share this series for people who try to skip out on multiple medications (possibly to educate them or at least scare them to pursue it)
You guys should do a video about Semmelweis Ignaz.
Mr. Sanitary lol
If you want, a french youtuber made a video about it. And it did have english subtitles, so feel free to check ^^
ruclips.net/video/WQVYWUsrfbk/видео.html
I love this channel! I feel like im learning and enjoying something at the same time
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Tested positive for TB a few years ago, but since I'm asymptomatic and not infectous (according to my doctors) it's been less important for me to take the pills. Mostly because they all said I'd need 9 months of regular treatments and check ups which have been pretty unlikely for me. So my plan is to take them when I'll be able to take the full amount and be proven cured, to prevent it from growing resistant.
Extra Credits’ favorite sentence:
“It worked.”
The cow with the sword and shield might be the finest art I've seen on this channel!
I don't like the fact that when a student of a Professor discover something's then the professor gets the credit
Such is life
Happens more often than you think. Usually since the student is not actually working on his own research any findings he/she has is property of his teacher/lead researcher and is up to the lead to grant credit where it is due. You get many who will just publish everyone's names as in such a large trial it is mostly a matter of luck (they tested like a 100 different bacterias) ,but now and then you get glory hoggers who take all the credit.
Unfortunately, this is not as simple as it may seem. Let me tell you from my experience as someone who is working in science: in my daily work, I am standing in the lab, performing experiments, evaluating primary data, etc. The big plan (and a lot of the pre-work, really) is and was done by my supervisor. I regularly discuss my work with her and while I do most of the handiwork, she is doing most of the planning. What experiments are most likely to yield insights? What are reasonable hypotheses about the bigger picture? That is stuff you need to consider and it's not easy (if not straight up impossible if you're working in the lab for at least 9h a day). So, who of us should be creditted for a potential finding? Me, the student, for I did the lab work? or my supervisor, for she planned the project? Now imagine a supervisor who has not one or two, but many more people working at a bigger project. Most of the time, it makes perfect sense that the coordinating mind behind the hard work that is basic science gets the credit in the end. Modern science is a group effort as it is so nicely put in the video above. And while there are certain big players, I personally have no one as "the single-most genius scientist" in my field.
Well the student is typically working under the direction of a professor, so credit should probably be shared.
luckily it seems like science prizes like the Nobel Prize are starting to focus on giving the prize to teams instead of a single scientist.
3:55 good job u have there
The more I learn of history, be it medical/scientific or political, modern or ancient, the more certain I am that the most powerful tools in humanity's toolbox, our most powerful weapons in our arsenal are persistence, dilligence, cooperation, trust, openmindedness, and well directed rage.
Teacher: What saved humanity?
Me: DRUGS!
chess platinum A friend told me she hates going to the doctor because “they only want to sell you drugs”. I can’t barely get my doctor to prescribe me antibiotics when I have blood in my mucus...
Good pharma slave
I’ve always enjoyed your channel but these medical history ones especially pellagra are by far my favorites.
7:34 I will forever be horrified.
These videos on the history of diseases are some of my favorites! Keep it up!
Me: I bet in 2019 we will have developed a cure for aids
Me: well its 2019 and disease I thought were dead are back. Yippee.
It's actually both. HIV treatments exist now, though not as simple as a vaccine. Then you got people burning 3 and 4G towers cause they 'spread da varus'. Humans are funny, both types exist.
Re-watching this after having watched the film the wind rises of the studio ghibli it's heart breaking. The film was on it's own but with this added it's truly hope-destructing
It’s crazy how anti-Vaxers have the nerve to argue with this
Trin&EL Are they also the mouth-breathing, Wal-Mart raiding, toilet paper hoarders?
Karens and thier dumb healing crystals
Argue with the history of scams and lies and vaccine deaths?
This video is so interesting! It’s actually really nice to see because for the past two years I’ve actually had an infection in the TB family and it was funny hearing the list of drugs i take and their side effects- like Amakacin- the one that causes hearing loss. A lot of people don’t know about what I have. Thank you extra credits for always being excellent educators and teachers!
Came for the Arthur Morgan jokes
You didn't have any goddamn faith in Dutch?
Father I Crave Cheddar: And stayed Because it was Walpole?
Oh yeah yeah
Arthur Morgan Arthur, Arthur have you completely lost faith in me?
I ain’t a doubter nor a believer Dutch
Kudos for an excellent capsule history of the disease! I worked in various aspects of medicine, for over 20 years, and this still managed to enlighten me. :)