The Party Switch | US Political Polarization
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- Опубликовано: 7 апр 2021
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It has come to a point where it seems like the political parties live in completely separate realities, let alone the same country. In order to understand this problem, we have to go all the way back to the beginnings of the party system we inhabit today. Now technically we’re in what’s called the “6th Party System,” which began somewhere between 1968 and 1981, depending on which scholar you ask. But it’s my intent with this to show that it is much more deeply rooted. - that the 6th Party System makes the US inherently more partisan year after year, not because of some particular party, politician, or even differing beliefs - but because the system itself is founded in partisanship more than ideology. This is going to be a long journey. Honest historians argue about more substantive things like how or when the Party Switch came about and what it entails, which is what today’s episode is about.
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Jefferson Cowie, The Great Exception: The New Deal and the Limits of American Politics (Princeton, N.Jer.: Princeton University Press, 2016). amzn.to/35sJX4w
Eric Foner, Reconstruction: America’s Unfinished Revolution, 1863-1877, new ed. (1988; New York: Perennial Classics, 2002). amzn.to/34lFOhq
Lawrence Goodwyn, The Populist Moment: A Short History of the Agrarian Revolt in America (Oxford, UK: Oxford University Press, 1975). amzn.to/2tcGsAR
Ross Kennedy ed., A Companion to Woodrow Wilson (New York: John Wiley & Sons, 2013). amzn.to/2KXhGc1
Kevin M. Kruse and Julian E. Zelizer, Fault Lines: A History of the United States Since 1974 (New York: W.W. Norton and Company, 2019). amzn.to/2Zh3pxe
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11:10 - workday not week (thx Liam O'Toole)
*references*
Jefferson Cowie, _The Great Exception: The New Deal and the Limits of American Politics_ (Princeton, N.Jer.: Princeton University Press, 2016). amzn.to/35sJX4w
Eric Foner, _Reconstruction: America’s Unfinished Revolution, 1863-1877,_ new ed. (1988; New York: Perennial Classics, 2002). amzn.to/34lFOhq
Lawrence Goodwyn, _The Populist Moment: A Short History of the Agrarian Revolt in America_ (Oxford, UK: Oxford University Press, 1975). amzn.to/2tcGsAR
Ross Kennedy ed., _A Companion to Woodrow Wilson_ (New York: John Wiley & Sons, 2013). amzn.to/2KXhGc1
Kevin M. Kruse and Julian E. Zelizer, _Fault Lines: A History of the United States Since 1974_ (New York: W.W. Norton and Company, 2019). amzn.to/2Zh3pxe
Julilly Kohler-Hausmann, _Getting Tough: Welfare and Imprisonment in 1970s America_ (Princeton, N.Jer.: Princeton University Press, 2017). amzn.to/2M2ol7j
While it would affect minorities more that Voter suppression would affect everyone, just goes to show how desperate these people (Repulicans like that) are that they basically shot themselves.
Do you think people who vote 3rd party waste there vote or should 3rd parties be given more to make the elections more than 2 party only
@@forickgrimaldus8301 claiming that being against mail in ballots is the equivalent to voter suppression is a stretch.
Next to only Henry Clay and possibly William Jennings Bryan, Barry Goldwater is the most influential presidential candidate to lose a presidential election in American history.
I'd argue Bernie is the Barry Goldwater of the Dems...or will be considered such
@Egg T Did you ignore the comment I was replying to or do you think Barry Goldwater was elected president
Id argue Eugene Debs is up there
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You should do a top 10 presidential election losers video!
Glad to see an acknowledgement that this was a slow process. I hate when people look at the 1920 and 2016 electoral maps and are like “this is clearly just because of what happened in the 60s”.
That's the most basic explanation one can give to people who believe that they've never switched tbh
Yeah, I always found it odd that Democrats love to talk about the party switch in the 60s, but claim FDR as a Democratic hero. Plus the two most free market presidents of the 20th century were Harding and Coolidge who were Republicans in the 20s. IMHO the parties are more different than they switched, but you can see the roots of the current bases of the parties even 100 years ago.
@@jimland4359 You can, but like it always does, the driving force behind major political change was race relations and the history of slavery. It didn't start in the 60's but that's when the current dynamic was cemented and the majority of change took place.
I guess you're saying "most free market" like it's a good thing, but data shows that republicans pretty much always tank the economy, leaving it to their democrat successors to clean up their mess.
Neither party is actually good for the nation if we want to move forward from the point we are at, but the Republicans actively want to move the US backwards. Before the party switch the roles were reversed, but that's because the Democrats used to be the conservative party.
Point me to the conservative party of a nation and you'll be showing me which party is more racist and extreme.
@@LDIndustries
Germany prior to unification saw its liberal elements so exceedingly radical that they unironically believed in the sort of lebensraum concept that hitler did later. That is a horrendous reading of history to just read conservatism as the dangerous and radical side when liberal ideologies historically have been some of the most radical and ----ed up movements out there. People quietly shove under the rug ---- like the reign of terror in france which was entirely based on enlightenment and liberal thought, the the german pan-nationalists before Bismarck that wanted greater germany, (a concept that would utterly destroy europe due to how sweeping its claims were) and situations like Spain where the liberals were the very reason Spain is such a hellhole today (they had a program of rampant centralization and forced cultural assimilation akin to the french) and how france was consistently the most unstable nation in europe, and still even today is exceedingly unstable, being on their FIFTH REPUBLIC.
People like you point to things like tariffs and import taxes and say 'oh look this causes an economic downturn its terrible' ignoring that that is the *short term* result of tariffs, and is in no way indicative of their long term goals, which routinely see success when implimented. People forget that economic liberalism has at times completely ruined nations because they can't compete in global markets (the ottoman empire completely failed to industrialize as free trade made imported goods consistly cheaper than anything they produced, forcibly killing any home-grown businesses, and is one of the marked reasons the nation failed as a whole.)
Liberalism and conservatism are two sides of the same coin, buddy. They can both be equally horrendous things to people. That doesnt mean one is inherently more evil or wrong than the other. Some of the best leaders in human history were die-hard conservatives, as were liberals.
@@maddoxlacy9072 Conservatives have been on the wrong side of history every single time. Crusades, slavery, civil rights, lgbt rights, etc. Conservatism is inherently a reactionary ideology as it doesn't exist without progressives. If no one ever wanted to advance society then there would never be anything to conserve. I'm not a liberal, but I'd take a liberal over a conservative any day. At least the liberal is less likely to say "you know that time in history where only white men had rights? yeah I want to go back to then."
Every day forward in time is better than the day before because we advance socially and technologically. Wanting to conserve old traditions instead of advance forward or to go back to the past is the mindset of a scared piss baby. The only time where the future would get worse is if conservatives are allowed unfettered control, because the past and the values that conservatives want to hang onto never existed. They're myths they tell themselves to justify their victimhood complexes.
Additional complication: Until like the 60s, what candidates got nominated for president was limited by party machines. Now that primaries are binding, ideology is much more of a driver.
Money is the real driver in US politics
Primaries still aren't Democratic tho
@@MajorMlgNoob They are way more democratic now than before
@@laharmo1501 yes but Caucasus are dumb, the staggered dates weigh certain states more than others with no real logic for it, and delegates don't make much sense, and Dems have Super Delegates which are straight trash
Technically the whole primary and convention history starts with the 1830s and such where parties were starting to hold conventions to meet up and decide their nominees. This was entirely party bosses though and very little popular input was used.
But in 1912, due to progressive reformers the first primary systems started in which parties would hold mini state elections in a decent chunk of states around the country. Still not all states, usually only a dozen or less states held primaries each election year. On top of that party bosses still were the only ones with any real power.
Than in 1972, caused by democratic protests and anti corruption groups springing up after Nixon's scandals, the system we have today was set up in which each state had to have a primary, and the convention delegates (mostly) had to match popular vote in the primaries.
Today's primary systems for each party are still very corrupt and such, and often times have useless ceremonial parts to them, but it is better than before. Would be cool to get money out of politics finally though.
I’m glad he approached this more as polarization than a clear switch. “Liberal” and “Conservative” are just relative terms and it means a lot more to address the ideologies in their time than who was the more left or right party.
This is true
I tend to be more liberal on issues but I am a republican/libertarian
The party realignment is definitely one of the most fascinating topic of US history.
It's kinda maddening to think about
I find it fascinating that there are U.S. citizens who believe party realignment is a hoax.
@@charlesingram2075 conservative idiots that listen to known propagandists like PragerU (funded by fracking billionaires Dan & Farris Wilks) do think it’s a hoax.
Here ruclips.net/video/g_a7dQXilCo/видео.html Carol Swain (known Candace-like grifter & discredited historian) shares with Republican morons the “inconvenient truth” about the Democratic Party 😂
No wonder these “poorly educated” would worship a morally bankrupt con man like Trump.
@@unsureprobablymaybe3527 you’re such an idiot you can’t even get a simple rebuttal right as there are, even by your standards, 2 genders 😂 good job proving my previous statement about the “poorly educated” right kid 😉
Now , how anyone chooses to identify themselves it’s not my business & that’s the difference between a democrat & a conservative bigot that thinks he has a saying about how people should live their lives 😉
Now, ask daddy Trump for some paper towels, find your safe space in your basement and cry your conservative tears there 🤡
Nice pfp
I was very confused when I first heard that Johnson was impeached. Then he said Andrew Jonhson and it clicked.
@Egg T what? No Andrew JOHNSON
@@anoon-, yes.
Oh hey! It’s you!
I always say that the two party system is the problem. With only two parties, it inherently creates an us vs them mentality. Especially with first past the post voting it makes it almost impossible for a 3rd party to become relevant
Ranked choice voting should absolutely be a thing. commenting belated for algorithm
Joke: The party switch never happened
Broke: The party switch happened recently
Woke: The party switch began in the (18)50s
Coke: The party switch is always happening.
Bloke: The two party system practiced today is broken.
The MOST annoying thing people can say is that 1800s gop and today are identical
The parties were always the same
Poke: Party Switches Bitches!
I think Teddy Roosevelt wanted an 8 hour work day, not week ;)
Yeah, I rewound and did a double take on that one. 😂
He just wasn't ambitious enough!
We should try that now!
LOL he did that on two different videos!
At 11:10 you say Teddy wanted an 8-hour workweek, did you mean to say 8-hour workday?
hah, good catch
I concur with an 8-hour workweek! Make it happen, right meow!
Yeah I caught the same. I had to listen to it twice
I thought it was the radical socialist party from France who pioneered the 8-hour work day with the Matignon Agreements.
@@TroyWilson adding no decrease in pay from a 40 hour work week and you got a deal, heck I'll be a single issue voter for that if it exists.
Parties are meant to change ideology. Parties, in theory, serve the people and thus change and realign their policies to fit with the times. If parties didn't realign their policies, then it would mean the politicians in the party are immortal and characteristically or the issues of the day did not change at all. Both are terrible.
"characteristically static" should be in place of "characteristically."
@@LuccianoBartolini Uh, no, if people's minds change and the issues of the day change, then parties either change or disappear. To say that a party should be advocating for the same things now as they did 100 years ago is the deny the march of time and, at least, technological progress.
Parties have to stick to their ideologies. It's when parties change to cater to the latest populist buzz-issue that is we get parties that are impossible to oust from governmental power. That is a much greater threat to the democratic system than a party that has stuck to a certain point of view for too long. The issues may shift, but if the parties just choose which side of the issue they are going to support according to what happens to be popular at the moment, rather than their ideological compass, that's when we get the disbelief in the representative democracy that's plaguing all the Western democracies right now, with Nationalist and Populist parties springing up all over Europe and candidates of that same ilk running for office in the United States.
What we really need is politicians who dare to say what they believe in, but the way the current media landscape is set up, that is a recipe for political suicide.
@@johanrunfeldt7174 No, if parties were meant to stick to one ideology forever and ever then we would never see parties stay for more than a decade or so. To deny that existing structures and groups change with time is to deny that time passes and conditions change.
I think what really caused the parties to be able to change so much in America is that the names of the parties "Democrats" and "Republicans" are so vague and meaningless that you can pretty much attach whatever ideological meaning you want to the party name. If you go to Britain the Labor and Conservative parties will generally change very little or at the very least not swap, mainly due to the obvious and simplistic meaning of the names. Labour fights for workers more, and conservatives, are for more traditional values. The US citizens can say whatever meaning for the naming of their preferred party. White Southerners after the civil war voted Democrat primarily because the party name didn't violate any of it's principles, just as how the name of the Democratic party name nowadays doesn't ruffle the feathers of The youth and minority groups in general. The cause was the vagueness of the party names.
I am a simple man. I see Cynical Historian, I watch his video...
I see this meme a lot
@@professorcube5104 Still relevant though.
@@alexruddies1718 nah
@@professorcube5104 Relevant in meaning, not culturally was what I meant.
@@alexruddies1718 bruh i know
*Tf2 announcer voice*: teams are being scrambled
Spidermen pointing at each other
And the teams are BLUE and RED. Coincidence? I think not!
Thanks for covering this. After getting to the section on the Civil War and reconstruction in 'Lies My Teacher Taught Me', it become more and more evident to me that if the Republican party still stood for the same values as it did back in Lincoln's time, no self-respecting Republican today would EVER fly the confederate flag.
11:12 “crazy progressive policies like an 8 hour work week”. Idk, I think and 8 hour work week is pretty radical 🤣.
My God Teddy is a god amongst men lol
I think the Ancient Greek citizens only worked 3 days a week under the rational that you work harder if you're we'll rested.
@CoMPoSt MeNDeZ Yeah, Ancient Greeks had slaves. Lots of them.
Cypher:"The U.S isn't the entire world"
Americans:*spits out water*
🇺🇸 = 💩
@@ErosFabbriGk2026 As they say "where there's hate there's love". I love this country but it is basically distracting itself w/ Culture War and the "Bread And Circuses" of the current Political Paradigm. What is to really say that is "American".
@@ErosFabbriGk2026 Think about it though: over the generations the American People - in their wealth and decadence - have become weak. Our people prefer numbing their minds with pain killers, entertainment and ultimately have grown to detest legitimate American things or even outlaw that which was normal.
I will concede that this country - The US - is better than most places on earth. It's just that, unfortunately, the problems with our Government will never be changed because ultimately the American People, in their complacency, have ultimately accepted and allowed for our toxic politics and governance to grow. And I see nothing valuable about any of that - which is why I am just gonna re-enlist into The US Army and live my whole life there OR I am gonna go where people haven't grown complacent. I shall see to it when I get there.
@@rustym.shackelford5546 Yes we are not the world we are howver the superpower with enough nukes to destory any one we want if we ignore the consaqinces of mad and no we have stayed a solid qauter of the world gdp.
I’ve been waiting on this one for MONTHS! Thank you! :)
Hah! An obligatory "WILLLLLSONNNN!"
Luv that!
Great video dude! I love that you are talking about this very subject!
I'm going to say it this guy has gotten so much better with his deliveries and seems a lot more comfortable behind the camera. There is a marked difference between his presentation now and his older videos. 👍
Funny thing is, this was recorded a year ago
@@CynicalHistorian Ha didn't see that coming:)
4:40 Never in my life did I think The Cynical Historian would make a Metal Gear Solid reference
Cypher is uniquely skilled in his ability to knit Hstory to Current Affairs and still remain an historian
Thanks for the premier so that I can get my popcorn ready for the impending comment war. And also I can look at on the sources beforehand...
I honestly just hate the name party switch, I like demographics change better but whatever
@@gregoryf4186 i agree, "switch" doesn't really explain a process. "swap" doesn't do it either. sounds like just like two people trading places over an imaginary line.
I'll grab my popcorn
@@redzoomer483 hold on.... You mean the cat books?
@@MrSthotwhelz more like switching platforms...
Everyone in my generation will say modern day problems started with the death of Harambe.
I think it’s such a complicated topic because the terms ‘conservative’ and ‘liberal’ are extremely vague and dependent on the time period. There are times in history when progressivism was needed, and also times where progressing farther left pushes us further away from Constitutional freedom. For example, the revolutionary colonists in 1776 would at the time have been considered radically ‘liberal’, though supporting the same Constitutional principles today is considered ‘conservative’. I think the more important emphasis is to identify a set of political ideals you believe in, regardless of whether they’re considered ‘right’ or ‘left’ of where the bar currently sits in public society.
Christ I thought I was the only one saying this. Glad I'm not alone.
When did all that left right shit even start to matter so insanely much? I remember like 15 years ago "right" were literal racist and xenophobes and "left" were real punks and socialists. Now it seems like everyone is either right or left no center allowed. I mean gosh US democrats are barely center right on a normal scale.
2005 was a rather interesting year for politics
I mean they owned slaves lmao
@@DanimoroZ yawn
Good video. Looking forward to the entire series.
That was really good. Looking forward to part 2.
Something that would be helpful to have, and that I can't find elsewhere is just a video of the time lapse of the way states voted over the last ~150 years. Love your stuff!
It's a favorite topic of mine that numerous channels have touched on. Knowing better did an excellent video on this as well. I look forward to watching this at a more reasonable hour.
That Atwater's interview summarizes it all. Great job man! On point and extremely efficient.
Finally, a video that can properly condense this complex topic into a multi part video series, can’t wait for the rest. 👍 10/10
Great video! Thank you for your commitment to presenting factual information about US history! Hope this videos gets millions of views. Your video should be mandatory viewing for all Americans.
Just found another A1 channel. Ready to binge, thank you!
Awesome video, it’s a shame these get demonetized.
When you mention the lack of progressive policies among Republicans in the 20s I think you should mention calvin coolidges good record on civil rights. Outside of his personal views being very much in favor of civil rights for African Americans, from what I understand the klan lost a lot of influence under his presidency. If you are talking about his economic policies not being progressive compared to teddy that's certainly true but that was the appeal for many. He was liberal in the sense of both social beliefs and the market, meaning he supported a free market with little intervention. Feel free to tell me if I'm wrong I'm no historian lol.
Oh I have a bad feeling about the comments section
In the grim darkness of the comments section there is only war.
@Egg T War is Eternal, all will soon see the Emperor's light as we Crusade in his name.
I haven’t seen those comments yet
@@lamaripiazza5226 I am currently talking to one
@@rb032682 back to cutting and pasting I see.
5:20 Owens, derpedy derp derp, OMFG LOL
Id laugh but the fact that people take her seriously its triggering to me
@@Spongebrain97 because she's a black female conservative. She's a living dog whistle. And most conservatives view her as an unchallengable force, lest the challengers be called racists, backing their theory of hypocritical "demonrats".
@@ElectricBuckeye sounds like a load of strawman. you are 100% wrong. What Candance Owens is more like is an attempt of conservatives to show a black woman as proof of how progressives they are. your claims are false she is simply the Republican party virtue signaling.
What the fuck do you mean by "living dog whistle"?
@@williamt.sherman9841 I think you guys are saying more or less the same thing
The “fine folks” at the daily wire haven’t embraced Candace Owens because they want to appear progressive.
She’s valuable to them because she echoes the same rhetoric.
Institutional racism doesn’t exist, BLM is a Marxist radical organization, George Floyd had drug priors and broke the law, making him undeserving of empathy and so on.
They believe having a black woman sharing their views, validates them.
Which quote was it that got this demonetized?
Hint: you hear it a lot in rap
"...turnabout is fair play." Fantastic quote.
Thank you Cypher.
Greetings from Italy.
Great timing, I was just reading about this in my american government class
As a person from little ol NZ at the bottom of the world this is a fascinating topic. Our politics seem so simple compared
I mean, our politics is interesting too in the sense that our labour and national parties tend to be so center it can be hard to tell them apart, meaning they can do weird shit like being a right wing party pushing "decent society", or our left wing party championing buisness (1990's lol)
@@westenev thats sorta what i mean, you get the same thing with both so you sorta just pick ur favourite colour lmao
Left or Right, We all hate Wilson.
The objective worst
Great video, as always.
Very informative, as always. Thanks.
I love that you still explode when Wilson comes up
Just reading through the comments board during the outro...
Holy Crap, where do these people find you?
Also, that guy that said "son" I'm pretty sure is a young college student.
Great video man
6:15 it’s worth mentioning that Martin van Buren was not only a Northerner but also an abolitionist
‘Tis a great episode
When he said Johnson vetoed the civil rights act in the 60s, I was so confused and was trying to look it up only to remember that we've had multiple president Johnson in the 60s
Your channel is awesome! Thanks for the great videos.
Huge new fan here; like your unpretentious approach! Looking forward to the rest of this 3-parter, and the rest of your back catalog. Thank you!
It wouldn’t be a Cypher video without a WILSOOON!
Who's Winson?
Who indeed.
I would argue that bipartisanship is one of the major problems in our system. Democrats should stop conceding to Republicans and actually push for favourable policies.
Thank you for this video, very informative.
Thank you for this video Cypher! You always put out great historical videos!
I just read a biography of Coolidge and was excited to hear how he for in... and he didn't even warrant a mention. =[
And then the ad is a Republican vindictive against HR1. =(
"... there is no cause that justifies a resort to violence."
- Ronald Reagan
Tell that to the DC protestors on Jan 6th!
Let's see that call for order brought to bear on the boogaloos and bigots of modern domestic violence, who carry "Back the Blue" flags while killing cops!
Beatings cause strokes.
Stroke is a result of blood clot blocking the blood vessels that feed oxygen to the brain. Without oxygen, brain cells die.
The body responds to physical trauma with blood clots to stop the blood loss. Sometimes a piece of the clot breaks off and follows the bloodstream somewhere and gets stuck.
The more physical trauma the patient endures, the more likely it is for a piece of the clot to break off and get stuck. Blows to the head increase the odds of stroke as a result of physical trauma, because it's the vessels nearest the brain being broken.
What physical trauma did the autopsy document?
@@petebondurant58 That being the case, about 140 officers at the Jan 6th DC riot were injured but none of them fatally so.
@@petebondurant58 yeah i'm sure he would have just happened to have a stroke on that day no matter what lmao
In my opinion it was more of a sort than a swap - the Republican party before the 1960s, or at least before the 1930s, was *on average* more progressive than the Democrats, but there were progressive Democrats and conservative Republicans then as well. Both parties were 'big tent' parties. Conservative southern whites went from Democrat to Republican, minorities went from Republican to Democrat, but in other groups there were plenty who remained where they were.
The fact that in 1972 Nixon had a bloc of supporters called "Democrats for Nixon" which were mostly from the South shows that the parties were indeed changing
like I tend to think: America changes constantly, Europe has been changing ever since humanity has been in the continent, politics changes by the hour, and people aren't what they started out as originally.
Are you that incompetent to understand there are ALOT of liberal progressives in the south? They still want the same thing the Democratic party wants, they just happen to live on the gulf coast, even back then.
@@ccLA08 of course they existed such as Lyndon Johnson but they werent as widespread. Today they are still there as seen with how Georiga and Florida are swing states. My point is how southern conservative Democrats began rooting for Republicans with Goldwater and Nixon and eventually got won over
@@Spongebrain97 im saying its still like that to this day. Same party line as well. Its just masked under the guise of equality
@@ccLA08 well you do know that the modern day bulk of the Democratic vote is from minorities right? Especially in places like Atlanta and Miami. They've just been the driving force for the Democrats in that region especially because the Republican party basically dog whistles racism
I see you with that MGS reference You're pretty good.
"You can't even point at one political party and blame them. That's what political hacks do." Yeeeeeooouch, haha!
I appreciate that I learn so much here, and the shade you throw makes it so much better, especially when it's at "Wilsoooooon!"
I honestly didn't know the democrats were conservative. I already didn't like Candace Owens, but that sure makes the whole "get off the democratic plantation" thing just that much more detestable.
I love your passion and the work you do. Great job
Goldwater in 1964 at an Atlanta press conference: “We're not going to get the
Negro vote as a bloc in 1964 or 1968,
so we ought to go hunting where the ducks are.”
I'm conservative, but I appreciate and respect your time and effort of researching and giving your analysis even though your views differ from mine. Keep up the great work and hopefully you reach 1mil subs in the next few years!
He’s losing subscribers.
Yeah but that probably has a lot more to do with the youtube algorithm then the Cynical historian himself
An ex-high school classmate (and now a school teacher) claims the party switch never happened as only one Democratic congressman became a Republican post civil rights movement: Storm Thormond. He didn’t seem to get by saying one of the most racist congressmen switching parties probably hurt his point.
And speaking of Storm Thormond is another example of the switch. Establishment Republicans in the 1960s wanted him out and by 2000 he had the Republican leadership wishing him a happy 100th birthday and calling him the greatest senator of all time.
Do you think a new party will rise up to replace either of the current two main parties? Is the best party a pizza party? 🍕
TV party!
Cat party
Here in Germany we have 6 parties and each party getting 5% of the votes gets into parliament, but in the UK they have a first parse the post system like the US and they also have more than 2 parties, so it should be possible even if unlikely.
@@TBFSJjunior cgp grey made a great vid about it
@@professorcube5104
Yeah I think I've seen that one.
It's a great channel.
Very much looking forward to episodes 2 and 3, and maybe a Star War-like Episode 0 or Episode 4?! 👍👍
I have to say that I love your series of videos and your viewpoint and intellectual honesty with regards to how much of how we act globally is a by-product of Wilsonian policies. Would you say that the initial shift of black laborers in the early 20th century, when the pro-business wing of the Republican Party really took hold post-Teddy Roosevelt and snuffed out the Progressives, had a significant impact on the shift of the labor movement as a whole to the Democratic party?
I find this kind of history so useful to understand my own country which is a very young democracy that is still in its early twenties lol. I'm from South Africa. I have a major in history and this video really helps in providing a framework that one can use to understand things that happen in this sphere of the human condition in a democratic society. Just to illustrate, the Apartheid government used to control the media to justify the fucked up things they used to do, fast forward 20 years and the ANC under the worst president in democratic South Africa, Jacob Zuma, is using the same tactics to undermine our constitutional democracy. What changed? Hopefully using the framework this video has provided I'll be able to answer this one day XD. Thanks Cypher!!!!!!
Both of these groups are similar, in that they institute policies that benefit a tiny group of elites by taking away from the majority of the population, the only difference is the change of those elites, back in the day the elites were the whites, now the elites are the corrupt officials in power
Waiting for part 2 so I can fully understand where the hell we are now...
Recently found this channel cause a comment bumped it into my algorithm. This is my 6th 7th video I’ve watched. So I’m passing it along to the algorithm.
It’s a demonetized video but definitely has information more people should be privy to. 😊
Cypher, the reference to conservation, does that make Teddy Roosevelt an early environmentalist?
Yeah he was lol
heck yeah he was
@@CynicalHistorian So was Nixon, but for some reason modern conservatives seem to want nothing to do with that.
@@CynicalHistorian if so than Teddy is the Manliest Hippie to ever live 😂
Certainly the most polarized it’s been in my lifetime.
Been waiting for this one for about a year. I'm forgetting which video it was when you said you'd make this video and collaborate with Tigerstar. Wasn't it the "Free Stuff Meme?"
Great stuff
Honestly, the idea that the very structure of our political system CREATES our polarization is something I've believed for a long time, but i've always had trouble putting into words.
I think just functionally, a multi-party government where nobody can actually get a majority and as such have to form Coalition governments incentivize compromise by their very nature and decentivize polarization since more extreme beliefs will usually form their own party rather than be infecting the rest of a more moderate left or right leaning party.
The American political system makes for good blood sports, but not so much for getting stuff done
Would you ever do a video on William Jennings Bryan? He is very fascinating to me and isnt much talked about.
I’m fascinated by him as well. Which party do you think William Jennings Bryan would belong today? Economically left wing populist while socially very conservative.
Is this charter thing you do new? Not sure I've seen it before. But I like that you called out the "good" acting lol. Keep making interesting videos and i'll watch them with these character or without
Thank you for this!
I mean the polarization is worse now I think than ever because of the internet and media constantly putting wedges between us. Partisanship is worse now than ever.
You should follow the advent of the media. The printing press changed the political and social landscapes. It was incredibly simple and inexpensive to communicate to a mass of people. The American Revolution was stoked by printed treatises on "rights". Many politicians, including Abraham Lincoln owned newspapers. At the time, these things were novel. With the advent of radio, motion pictures, and television we noted some major changes in our nation and their influences on politics: fireside chats, the 1960 televised presidential debates, etc. The internet is the latest change and advent in media.
As someone with a passing knowledge of the history of US politics, but not a ton of expertise, this was incredibly informative.
Great video
Does anyone know the particular version of _When Johnny Comes Marching Home_ that begins at 6:58
It's from Epidemic Sound
@@CynicalHistorian Eyy thanks mate
The comments were turned off in the myths about slavery video.
So I’m commenting on here.
Good video. I think a lot of contention can be avoided if we dig deep to learn the truth about the past and about ourselves now. I was upset when I heard Abraham Lincolns quote, but not surprised. I also think his mindset was correct and allowed for greater things to happen throughout the history of the world. I hope Dr. King’s dream will one day come to pass.
but PragerU says that Party Switch is a Myth LOL
PragerU also says they’re a University, they have a tenuous relationship with reality.
And Cynical Histroian says no Party is calling for Segreagtion openly yet fails to mention the Segregation in College Campuses by the "Progressives."
@@FernandoMartinez-pv1id What segregation is there on college campuses? Fun fact there literally is no segregation in college campuses, unless you're talking about segregation via degree major.
@@Blownkingg I have not been in college yet, but I have yet to hear a word about that "segregation" in college campuses! Based on my experiences with these sort of claims (which, more often than not, are designed not to inform, but to associate the other party with as many historical villains as possible), I don't think I will ever get any further details on these claims, since that's not the purpose!
@@Hand-in-Shot_Productions I agree. I am in college and can confirm there is no segregation on college campuses.
2:07 What's with the gaps in the dates for the party systems? I guess they're all election years, so do we not count the actual presidential term while the parties reconfigure?
It's more that we don't how to classify those years. They're transitional
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*I don't like the term, "switch", because that incorrectly suggests a sudden reversal. But IDEOLOGICAL CHANGE between the parties most definitely took place.* The problem is too many people think because *today,* "liberal" or "left" is automatically perceived as Democratic and "conservative" or "right" is automatically perceived as Republican, that it's always been that way. That's patently false. Decades ago, your party affiliation did not identify your ideology.
Depending on what region you lived in, a Democrat or Republican could be liberal, conservative or moderate. All combinations existed. That is an indisputable historical fact.
Yes, especially back then, there were conservative, moderate and liberal wings *IN BOTH PARTIES* So many people like to claim the Ku Klux Klan for example was "Democratic" because of southern rednecks, when there were also Republican members *at the same time*, especially in the mid-west.
3:33 Bipartisanship, in my opinion, should only be done if both parties involved, can both agree on the thing they are working together on is the right thing to do, in and of itself; not just to compromise their values to an olive-branch, that the other side probably won't reciprocate.
What piano piece is being played at around 5:45 of the video??? anyone please let me know?
Party switch is what is flipped from OFF to ON when someone REALLY spikes the punch bowl.
This video is the best explanation of the us party switch on RUclips, well done.
Here are some real party switches: 1896-1932, 1928-94
This is a small detail but I appreciated seeing The Story of Civilization on the bookshelf behind the author.
One thing I should mention is that, the politicians don't change, the voters do. In general, the politicians don't care who votes for them, they just want votes. So even though when the party switch happened, very few politicians actually changed parties. Instead, the voters changed parties. It started on the national level, and over time, went to the state and local levels. That's why so few politicians changed parties, instead the people voting changed the party they voted for.
The really strange thing about the talk of left and right wing in US politics is that the so-called left wing liberal democrats/social democrats are pretty much centrist when compared to the left-right divide in other democratic countries. The US political spectrum is very right leaning overall and to say that there is a socialist movement in the US today is just laughable.
Yeah lmao. This is what happens when centrist like Bernie Sanders and AOC run around calling themselves democratic socialists when they are in fact social democrats. The true meaning of socialism is watered down to where "building roads and giving healthcare" is socialism.
@@oklanime that's not the issue, the issue is calling everyone left of the republican party communist. (It makes even moderates appear radical cause people don't listen to what they are fighting for or assume those things are radical)
I feel like there's so much recency bias in this discussion; that because most of us have lived our lives in a time when the parties have been incredibly polarized and highly sorted, we imagine that has always been the case. In fact, up until the 1990s, there were still vestiges of the old, non-polarized system where there were liberal & conservative Republicans, and liberal Democrats and conservative Dixiecrats.
Correction? At 11:12, shouldn't "an eight hour work WEEK" be an eight hour work DAY?
BTW, love this series, excellent work, well worth multiple viewings.
4:38 "I guess The Patriots don't want people disagreeing with you, right?"
Crypto must have knowledge of a weapon to surpass Metal Gear.