@@KSacki Good point. But he retired from Melee, so it wouldn't hurt to shift fundamentals competitively to Ultimate considering this character is nuts. Hungrybox still kicks ass in Melee, while shifting Jigglypuff on the tier list by himself.
It's all fake, she does it on purpose to underplay her kingdom's true power. Bring all eyes on something irrelevant to the kingdom's hidden military and colonial exploits.
Actually @Adith Ahsan, Samsora is no longer second best player in the world, he even said he dropped down to around 58th best player in the world because of online
Seeing as how Samsora is a top 2 player at his best, despite not mastering the death combos, it will be scary to see how far it can go once he optimizes his punish game
I feel like Peach is a fantastic top tier, she has weaknesses that are exploitable and her main strengths are from really good play and crazy combos. Like Falcon, I don't think it feels bad to lose to a good Peach.
I like this take. There's always going to be top-tier characters, so the best you can hope for is that they're fun and top-tier in a "healthy" way, which I think Peach is.
DI in on dtilt sometimes, it messes with the extended combos. Rare you see 0-Ds go to completion vs good players mixing up DI and vs small/thin characters
@@ellie8272 Setting up the combo isn't trivial though. There's obviously the standard (DI/rage/staleness/different turnip knockback values) to worry about but also it needs the Peach to land pretty much on top of her opponent or reverse turnip toss in melee range. If you just recognize the situation you can (shield/parry/use whatever OOS would work if your character has one/short hop nair to catch the turnip).
My wife does the downthrow catch downtilt thing with the bomb using Link. Sometimes she does buffer backair out of it and starts a string. It's pretty nutty for every item character. Peach is crazy tho. Peach does damage.
Agreed, I love her design rewarding players for playing hella optimally, unlike most other characters in the game, it's the reason you don't feel like you got poorly outplayed by this character which is also why the majority of their mains are friendly.
Often what happens in the begining of a competitive game is that the easier, less technically demanding characters rise to the top. (ie: melee marth and sheik) After the meta progresses however, is when characters like Fox start to dominate. Might happen here with peach, as Samsora hasn't even some close to optimizing these punishes..
@@AceDice marth, fox and puff are all equal candidates for the number 1 spot. they all have there own arguments for why they are the best. marth and puff are just better than fox rn imo
(a Peach main)Yeah i face DKs all the time usually end in a 3 stock 😭 u should join the peach discord to learn the matchup so you can do better against peach
I think Armada specifically said in one of his vids/streams that he doesn't like playing the same character across multiple smash games. Still would be cool tho
As an ex-melee peach player and then someone that played her in Smash 4/Ult... oh my lord it’s actually awful to play her specifically from Melee/PM and in any other smash game. The main issues with Peach specifically are 1) double jump cancel and 2) a few float properties that both work so differently in their respective games that it really throws the player off (especially mid combo/edge guarding)
I actually have been trying to lab footstool combos with turnips. The issue I have had so far is that they seem to be inconsistent and are a bit difficult to do since you need to not only get the footstool, but also have to do an immediate cancel into float and then and immediate float cancel into either F-Throw or D-Throw with a turnip in order to make sure the opponent is still in hitstun. Also, the way an opponent goes is subject to what character they are playing. However, done properly, you can combo the same way you would combo without the footstool.
It's weird how he is trying to teach combos before the basic ground float aerials. Realistically people tend to look at the cool combos and wanna learn that first but most people are barely gonna get in training mode let alone an actual match. Just to clarify, by "most people" I mean the people who start of with this video instead of learning the basic tech
On the first combo after I downtilt and catch the turnip, inkling is never high enough for me to throw it at her in the air? Edit: Nvm i'm getting the hang of it
I tried maining Peach. My hands HURT. The day I decided she was just gonna be a pocket my fingers thanked me. I do enjoy her. There are simply plenty of other rewarding mains that won't give you early onset arthritis.
I can z catch turnips but I still can't float cancel regrab (how Razo threw the stitch face 3 times). Funny enough a lot of Peach combo montage videos but not a lot of resources on teaching how. EoE, Ralts_1, and Floating Pluto being the few who explain such inputs
Peach's combo game isn't fully optimized? This isn't the first time I've heard a character hasn't been fully optimized, while being called high/top-tier
Its quite humbling that even though my gsp for peach is in the top 1.3 percent I still can't do most of the combos highlighted in this video. Can be interpreted in a lot of ways such as gsp not mattering so much in determining skill, not needing advanced combos to do well in gsp grinding, the amount of improvement that is available to mid level players and other things not listed here.
I know I'm a month late but, maybe its because you try to z catch before letting go of the left stick. If you push on the left stick with your thumb even a little bit when you z catch then you will airdodge. You will also airdodge if you press z too early, so be careful when timing them!
That Armada thumbnail really ties the whole video together lol
facts
I'm not sure why Armada doesn't play Peach in Ultimate. Weird how he plays Inkling instead of Peach.
@@dartfeld9810 good question
@@dartfeld9810 probably to leave his melee muscle memory as untouched as possible
@@KSacki Good point. But he retired from Melee, so it wouldn't hurt to shift fundamentals competitively to Ultimate considering this character is nuts. Hungrybox still kicks ass in Melee, while shifting Jigglypuff on the tier list by himself.
how does peach keep getting kiddnapped by bowser if she can bring him to 120 off a turnip throw
She hasn’t perfected it yet
She likes being kidnapped.
It's all fake, she does it on purpose to underplay her kingdom's true power. Bring all eyes on something irrelevant to the kingdom's hidden military and colonial exploits.
she has a hostage kink
I’d say ssb peach and smb peach are two different people
I know, this sounds retarded but it’s my thought-
Honestly it’s crazier that Samsora does the most basic combo trees, non of the crazy shit, but still is the second best player in the world.
His neutral is way beyond all the other top Peaches, that's where he really pulls ahead.
Actually @Adith Ahsan, Samsora is no longer second best player in the world, he even said he dropped down to around 58th best player in the world because of online
@@Ajbbaptiste Brah, online doesn't affect PGR.
@@Ajbbaptiste offline and online are completely different lol
@@Ajbbaptiste you did not just say that
Seeing as how Samsora is a top 2 player at his best, despite not mastering the death combos, it will be scary to see how far it can go once he optimizes his punish game
He has good movement and bait and punish game that make him the best peach.
I actually thought this was an Armada video at first. 😂
Same
Yeah me too
bruh me too lmao
Hey, I appreciate you for reviewing my turnip combos! Great video as always :)
I feel like Peach is a fantastic top tier, she has weaknesses that are exploitable and her main strengths are from really good play and crazy combos. Like Falcon, I don't think it feels bad to lose to a good Peach.
I like this take. There's always going to be top-tier characters, so the best you can hope for is that they're fun and top-tier in a "healthy" way, which I think Peach is.
It's frustrating to be guaranteed to lose off a single hit at zero
@@ellie8272 you have to take in account most of these are no di combos
DI in on dtilt sometimes, it messes with the extended combos. Rare you see 0-Ds go to completion vs good players mixing up DI and vs small/thin characters
@@ellie8272 Setting up the combo isn't trivial though. There's obviously the standard (DI/rage/staleness/different turnip knockback values) to worry about but also it needs the Peach to land pretty much on top of her opponent or reverse turnip toss in melee range. If you just recognize the situation you can (shield/parry/use whatever OOS would work if your character has one/short hop nair to catch the turnip).
Thank you so much for featuring my content! Glad you enjoyed it.
I'm not glad. You made me deathly afraid to fight a peach/daisy.
5:28 i get scared when i hear "pichu" and "near the ledge" in the same sentence for many reasons
Ftilt at 110% uh oh
"These combos look stupidly difficult to difficult..."and they are.
As he was saying the inputs i was like ???????
FUN LARRY FACT: Larry gave his 2nd place medal to Abadango at 2GGT: Abadango Saga
I didn’t know that. Good job digging up one I didn’t know if true.
I love these Larry facts
larry is a legend
This is like trying to learn combos in a traditional fighter
yeah and its so lame imo
@@ob1jakeobi416 how is that lame?
@@ob1jakeobi416 yeah... Think you're the only one who thinks this
@@ob1jakeobi416 lame opinion imo
The thumbnail is godlike lol
Just missing the red circles and arrows
My wife does the downthrow catch downtilt thing with the bomb using Link. Sometimes she does buffer backair out of it and starts a string. It's pretty nutty for every item character. Peach is crazy tho. Peach does damage.
When a character has a real skill ceiling in smash ultimate:
I'd say Pikachu, Pichu and Joker also have skill ceilings. Honestly most characters do
@@ojutay8375 shulk as well, I would say a lot but shulk definitely is one of the most difficult to 100% its potential
@@Magic0YT Don't forget Ice Climbers as well
@@brendan1871 and Falcon
Agreed, I love her design rewarding players for playing hella optimally, unlike most other characters in the game, it's the reason you don't feel like you got poorly outplayed by this character which is also why the majority of their mains are friendly.
Every time i see these combo tutorials i just think "how do i do that with a sideways joycon"
Often what happens in the begining of a competitive game is that the easier, less technically demanding characters rise to the top. (ie: melee marth and sheik) After the meta progresses however, is when characters like Fox start to dominate. Might happen here with peach, as Samsora hasn't even some close to optimizing these punishes..
i mean look at the melee meta now. marth has no losing match-ups and fucks up fox. marth is the best in the game if not second behind puff
@@ob1jakeobi416 jigglypuff is good but not the best
@@AceDice marth, fox and puff are all equal candidates for the number 1 spot. they all have there own arguments for why they are the best. marth and puff are just better than fox rn imo
(DK player hate her!) Watch how Peach can take you from 0 to death in 3 simple steps!
(a Peach main)Yeah i face DKs all the time usually end in a 3 stock 😭 u should join the peach discord to learn the matchup so you can do better against peach
doctors hate him! wait wrong video...
You should tilt more it has a lot of range to keep peach away and also juggling cause she can't land well cause she Floaty (daisy main)
@@sefilrot Ooooo lemme join
@@pumpkinpeen5937 Nah, i'm sure Dr. Mario hates the Peach matchup due to basically having a bottom 5 movility and recovery.
Finally Razo getting some coverage - this guys peach vids are amazing for really teaching peach tech
The Armada thumbnail is insanely hilarious. He should pick up peach in ultimate.
I think Armada specifically said in one of his vids/streams that he doesn't like playing the same character across multiple smash games. Still would be cool tho
As an ex-melee peach player and then someone that played her in Smash 4/Ult... oh my lord it’s actually awful to play her specifically from Melee/PM and in any other smash game. The main issues with Peach specifically are 1) double jump cancel and 2) a few float properties that both work so differently in their respective games that it really throws the player off (especially mid combo/edge guarding)
This top-tier thumbnail summoned me.
Luigi combos but with extra sauce and head bops.
The fact that Floating Pluto can execute these almost every match is mind blowing.
I actually have been trying to lab footstool combos with turnips. The issue I have had so far is that they seem to be inconsistent and are a bit difficult to do since you need to not only get the footstool, but also have to do an immediate cancel into float and then and immediate float cancel into either F-Throw or D-Throw with a turnip in order to make sure the opponent is still in hitstun. Also, the way an opponent goes is subject to what character they are playing. However, done properly, you can combo the same way you would combo without the footstool.
Peach is literally the melee fox of ultimate
Armada thumbnail is actually godlike. So on point
If the Spy from TF2 was in Smash, I bet he'd he'd have an insane combo game as well!
You know who surprisingly does pretty good against peach, META KNIGHT
I was thinking the same thing
Yeah he is one of the few characters that can easily eadgegaurd her
It's weird how he is trying to teach combos before the basic ground float aerials. Realistically people tend to look at the cool combos and wanna learn that first but most people are barely gonna get in training mode let alone an actual match. Just to clarify, by "most people" I mean the people who start of with this video instead of learning the basic tech
Yah. Float cancels are better to start with. I did.
I really love how Larry move forward with the community despite the bad times!!! its really cool!
@erik_cucumber_ same to you
Since I am suscribed to both Armada and Larry I thought this was an Armada's video and feel bamboozle when Larry voice appeared xD
It’s starting to look like peach has a turnip stance. She makes smash look like a trad fighter
That armada picture will never not be funny
On the first combo after I downtilt and catch the turnip, inkling is never high enough for me to throw it at her in the air?
Edit: Nvm i'm getting the hang of it
So there Larry realizes what everyone knew already in 2019 lmao
fax lmao
Ok so when are we going to get a video of Larry trying some of these combos?
What is up with Mario characters and strong combo games and/or 0 to deaths?
WAHOOOOO
Mario
Luigi
Peach
Bowser
Wario
The year is 20xx everyone plays Peach, final destination
I tried maining Peach. My hands HURT. The day I decided she was just gonna be a pocket my fingers thanked me. I do enjoy her. There are simply plenty of other rewarding mains that won't give you early onset arthritis.
EoE underrated. I wish he made more peach videos.
My fingers hurt just watching this
it can play music and peach dances she eats heal peaches and then to make it better you can hit others
If you did the same for R.O.B. combos that'd be awesome, there's a lot to look at by Lucretio, Radio and others
This was like watching an old Guilty Gear combo video
Larry lurr made a video on WHAT character?????
I’m on the first combo and the part I’m stuck on is throwing the turnip down after z-catching it
Best thumbnail for smash ever
which editing software do you use?
Rip Ike mains and those true combos. 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
I feel sorry for them, having to put up with all of this.
@@Taktaagic I know I am one 😭
I can z catch turnips but I still can't float cancel regrab (how Razo threw the stitch face 3 times). Funny enough a lot of Peach combo montage videos but not a lot of resources on teaching how. EoE, Ralts_1, and Floating Pluto being the few who explain such inputs
you should do a video showcasing the combos from lucretios ROB
Maybe Smash isn't canon to the Mario lore, maybe it is.
Either way, I feel like this is more reason to ask why can't Peach rescue herself again?
peach mains ain’t doing that to me and that’s on gang
crazy combos tho, lowkey of want to pick up peach tho :3
1st year of Ult: Ult has no combos!
2nd year of Ult:
Does anyone else find it ironic that Bowser is the hardest character to pull this stuff off with?
1:27 as a shulk main I found it so funny how he just said the combo does not account for shulk lol it’s true
As a peach main, it’s all improvised you have to know where tf the person is going so you can keep going :3
Honestly it's exhausting sometimes but at the same time it's so fun
@@nevynervine it is and the outcome is so rewarding :))
wow, this guy is good
Samsara is nowhere near optimizing peaches combo game. And he is the second best player in the world.
Apparently he has hand pain from playing Peach
@@ojutay8375 no wonder it’s yet to be optimized. Mfers end up with arthritis.
@@MauveGun yeah Peach players tend to end up with that
Yeah... I learned all of these the hard way when I was playing practice games against a peach player...
for those who said ultimate is lame, well humans make mistakes
Oh my God that thumbnail reminds me of the "Iran did what???" Meme
I love peach 🍑 float cancel is just gard for me
The outro music made me cry!
does not account for mike haze was hilarious
Lol I thought Armada was
Doing Ultimate stuff again.
Goated thumbnail
Is there no DI in this game?
Peach mains, Rise up
Loving the content! Keep it up
Peach's combo game isn't fully optimized? This isn't the first time I've heard a character hasn't been fully optimized, while being called high/top-tier
Samsora placed what!?!?
Thought this was an Armada video lol
Minecraft Steve combos or ice climbers
since you're at it, you might wanna look into Lucretio's ROB. THE MOST TECHNICAL ROB IN THE WHOLE WORLD
keep up great content bro :3
i wish samsora did these flashy combos
for some reason I thought armada would be reacting with you
The thumbnail lmfao
Peach is scary
Samsora was the first person to express her combos 🙄
Imagine how much better/worse the world would be without float cancel?
I thought this was Armada's vid lmao
Me, a casual, extremely confused
Its quite humbling that even though my gsp for peach is in the top 1.3 percent I still can't do most of the combos highlighted in this video. Can be interpreted in a lot of ways such as gsp not mattering so much in determining skill, not needing advanced combos to do well in gsp grinding, the amount of improvement that is available to mid level players and other things not listed here.
GSP is meaningless dude lol. Completely irrelevant to how good you are at the game.
GSP isn’t important bro. Also peach sucks on wifi. Doing some of these inputs online is extremely hard if not impossible during a normal game
Down tilt always puts you into tumble, so it can always be di’d
What about ice climbers combos?
Next time someone tells me they play smash because its easier than other fighting games I'm gonna show them peach combo videos.
I find z catching on any character to be hard. I always seem to air dodge on accident. Thats with young link and diddy mostly
It's kind of a tight window to do it properly.
I know I'm a month late but, maybe its because you try to z catch before letting go of the left stick. If you push on the left stick with your thumb even a little bit when you z catch then you will airdodge. You will also airdodge if you press z too early, so be careful when timing them!
Even with her combos she's low tier😈
Stop trolling-
@starving artist what? Nah dude it's in the bible!
Normally forget to like the videos ,but armada in the thumbnail really forced me to
*Iran did what?!*
Peach is so good
I used to think she was the 3rd best after ZSS and Mario, but now I think she’s the best in the game, easily.
Larry is going to be the Zero with this Content
Larry thanks for giving our peach attention lmfao nobody talks about the shit us peach mains can do lmao
Fr though lol
Oh I love eoe's stuff
Iran did what? :(
some daisy did this shit to me months ago. i was like huh
Soon they'll nerf her.
I can feel it.
I wonder why Armada didnt try to main peach when he played Ultimate.
I was watching a stream once where he said he likes playing a different character for each game. Not sure if there's any more to it than that.