I just want to say that Fresh out The slammer has a lot of tea about the relationship. No one seems to comment on that. "Splintered back in winter, silent dinners, bitter. He was with her in his dreams."
Cara and Sarah - speaking for myself and other people I know - your reactions were basically how we all felt - even with the benefit of being on the West Coast, when the 11pm chaos arrived we were all left mentally overwhelmed… but every time I have listened to it since, it just gets better and better.
To me both the first half of the album and the second half are written in chronological order as to when they happened in Taylor’s life. This full album will go down as Taylor Swifts Magnus Opus. Stunningly beautiful
I thought yay! Another video from the girls lol I just saw your instagram post about having to reupload. Dropped a like and watched some of it again 😅 thank you for answering my question in this one!
Just found you today & loving your input. Just a thought, in “Cassandra” when she mentions “the Christian chorus line”, could it possibly be a reference to Kanye’s Sunday service thing he did for a while? I’m not a Kanye or Kardashian follower, so I don’t know all the details. I thought when she says, “got the call” I immediately thought of the call Kim recorded.
She may have been using the line Casually Cruel in both All Too Well and Mr. Perfectly Fine to draw a parallel between the two relationships and also to show that the two people in question were very similar.
Cara and Sarah I am going to fall on the sword because after hearing you talk about Peter I just can't wrap my brain around that song being about Matty. She said that this was wrapping up the last 10 years of her life. As I look at the words for Peter I still say it is about Harry Styles because it says that they were just kids and he said he was going to grow up and come find her. In the song she says he was going to get her but he was 25 and the shelf life had expired. You said that she didn't meet Matty until he was 25 but if it is about Harry he was 18 when they started dating and if you do the time line by the time he turned 25 she would have started her relationship with Joe so that is why she turned out the light.
But Matty actually called himself Peter Pan. And his band The Lost Boys. He has called himself that several times. If I can find the clips where he says this, I will come back and edit it and add them for you. I couldn’t get the time stamps but you can do a few dice if you want of these interviews: In a 2016 interview with Big Issue, Healy said, "I'm a sort of emo Peter Pan self-lacerating Pied Piper kind of character". In 2018, he told Music Week, "It's very easy to be Peter Pan when you do what I do, and of course you're gonna be Peter Pan. But you have to grow up, nobody likes an old infant". In 2020, he told ShortList that he was “slightly Peter Pan-ish”.
In 2016 Matty wrote the song somebody else so I think he was kinda sad n bitter about her dating someone else but also if you look back every interview he had they always asked him about Taylor swift one lady even called him Matt and another called him Matthew and he’s like it’s Matty, like they don’t even know his name but they know about Taylor swift from years ago and still wanna milk it like he hasn’t done anything else of worth on his own. He also has a whole band it’s not just him and Taylor swift. He also had a record label that puts out some very successful independent artist and is trying to change the way greedy executives make money using artist and exploiting fans. Also the camera men and the stunts he does on stage are planned and consent is given before hand. Theaters and tour managers work with artist during rehearsals and sound checks it’s not random, he’d not be allowed back or he’d be sued. And the raw meat is fake, the wine is so he has courage to embarrass hisself by singing his most vulnerable songs to strangers, and it’s all part of the show. He’s said all of this but he also has done a lot of crazy shit when he was on drugs so judging a man while he was addicted makes you guys look terrible! He has so many references to Taylor and hardly any to the other women he’s dated over the years, even fk twigs doesn’t have music about him which is odd considering Taylor has been writing about him for years. All of her exs messed up but she also messed up too, plus it’s really none of our business and we’ll never really know because we don’t actually know these people. It’s giving look how cute to judge in a glass house when I didn’t do my homework. It’s lazy content creation.
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I just want to say that Fresh out The slammer has a lot of tea about the relationship. No one seems to comment on that. "Splintered back in winter, silent dinners, bitter. He was with her in his dreams."
Cara and Sarah - speaking for myself and other people I know - your reactions were basically how we all felt - even with the benefit of being on the West Coast, when the 11pm chaos arrived we were all left mentally overwhelmed… but every time I have listened to it since, it just gets better and better.
I fear I’m obsessed with how many times you both say “I fear” or “dare I say” 🫶🏼
People aren't prepared for the depth and darkness of what she's doing! No one will even remember Romeo & Juliet by the time she's finished.
To me both the first half of the album and the second half are written in chronological order as to when they happened in Taylor’s life. This full album will go down as Taylor Swifts Magnus Opus. Stunningly beautiful
Cara we loved your unhinged cahotic reaction so no worries ! ❤
I thought yay! Another video from the girls lol I just saw your instagram post about having to reupload. Dropped a like and watched some of it again 😅 thank you for answering my question in this one!
I love this video, I think it could be her best album!!
Sarah Love you girl!! I watched you turn white as a Ghost (sick) during TTPD. I understood!! Loved you both so much raw and real reactions!!❤️🫶🖤
Just found you today & loving your input. Just a thought, in “Cassandra” when she mentions “the Christian chorus line”, could it possibly be a reference to Kanye’s Sunday service thing he did for a while? I’m not a Kanye or Kardashian follower, so I don’t know all the details. I thought when she says, “got the call” I immediately thought of the call Kim recorded.
Question?... could be about the Matty situation
She may have been using the line Casually Cruel in both All Too Well and Mr. Perfectly Fine to draw a parallel between the two relationships and also to show that the two people in question were very similar.
Cara and Sarah I am going to fall on the sword because after hearing you talk about Peter I just can't wrap my brain around that song being about Matty. She said that this was wrapping up the last 10 years of her life. As I look at the words for Peter I still say it is about Harry Styles because it says that they were just kids and he said he was going to grow up and come find her. In the song she says he was going to get her but he was 25 and the shelf life had expired. You said that she didn't meet Matty until he was 25 but if it is about Harry he was 18 when they started dating and if you do the time line by the time he turned 25 she would have started her relationship with Joe so that is why she turned out the light.
But Matty actually called himself Peter Pan. And his band The Lost Boys. He has called himself that several times. If I can find the clips where he says this, I will come back and edit it and add them for you.
I couldn’t get the time stamps but you can do a few dice if you want of these interviews:
In a 2016 interview with Big Issue, Healy said, "I'm a sort of emo Peter Pan self-lacerating Pied Piper kind of character".
In 2018, he told Music Week, "It's very easy to be Peter Pan when you do what I do, and of course you're gonna be Peter Pan. But you have to grow up, nobody likes an old infant".
In 2020, he told ShortList that he was “slightly Peter Pan-ish”.
In 2016 Matty wrote the song somebody else so I think he was kinda sad n bitter about her dating someone else but also if you look back every interview he had they always asked him about Taylor swift one lady even called him Matt and another called him Matthew and he’s like it’s Matty, like they don’t even know his name but they know about Taylor swift from years ago and still wanna milk it like he hasn’t done anything else of worth on his own. He also has a whole band it’s not just him and Taylor swift. He also had a record label that puts out some very successful independent artist and is trying to change the way greedy executives make money using artist and exploiting fans. Also the camera men and the stunts he does on stage are planned and consent is given before hand. Theaters and tour managers work with artist during rehearsals and sound checks it’s not random, he’d not be allowed back or he’d be sued. And the raw meat is fake, the wine is so he has courage to embarrass hisself by singing his most vulnerable songs to strangers, and it’s all part of the show. He’s said all of this but he also has done a lot of crazy shit when he was on drugs so judging a man while he was addicted makes you guys look terrible! He has so many references to Taylor and hardly any to the other women he’s dated over the years, even fk twigs doesn’t have music about him which is odd considering Taylor has been writing about him for years. All of her exs messed up but she also messed up too, plus it’s really none of our business and we’ll never really know because we don’t actually know these people. It’s giving look how cute to judge in a glass house when I didn’t do my homework. It’s lazy content creation.
When are y’all gonna drop more Lana?😭
Sorry I just saw the sections about Lana updates lol thank youu❤❤❤❤❤
Both of you are a joy to watch - throughout that chaotic night. ツ
Cara I’m still not convinced that your bookcase is ok and not about to tumble over. 😅
Lots of reactors thought aIMee was aLMee, don't feel bad lol