I have a 2006 Prerunner with 200k miles, just bought a Keystone Passport, dry weight 4880. My first trip was pulling home from Atlanta GA, to central TX, 900 miles+- . The Mighty Taco handles the trailer fine. Yes it slows down on the hills, and gas mileage sucks when towing, but I have no problem keeping the speed limit 90% of the time. I know a lot of people who think you need a 600 hp mini locomotive turbo duelly 4X to pull a trailer once a year, but the Tacoma can handle a mid 5k pound trailer fine.
Thanks for the info Jim. I have seen multiple Taco owners on here back up the ability for the truck to handle this load, considering it will be flat driving and infrequently done.
Just for future reference, WD 40 is not a lubricant. WD stands for water displacement and this stuff is mainly a solvent and is good at breaking up rust. Anytime you need a lubricant you should use a silicone spray where there is light friction. Or a grease for tougher jobs. I find white lithium grease, that you can get in a spray can, does a great job and does not dry out easily.
Hmm I believe you but I can't tell you how many things I have successfully lubricated over the years with the product. :) However good tip and next time it sticks I'll pull out the silicon.
Look on EBay for Equalizer lubricant. It is a blue lube and you put a small pea size on the hitch head (where bars go into) that is enough lubricant to stop creaking and groaning. Also use some of that lube and lube up that hitch ball as well. DO NOT lube the L brackets.
I have a 2017 tacoma trd sport 4x2 & I towed a 20ft car trailer with a ford escape on it from Nebraska to California (1600miles).Total towing weight was 6000 lbs. My taco handled the weight like a champ. The only thing that suffered was my mpg....... 11.9...
Well within the limits of your truck. Don’t even worry about it, keep going out and enjoy it. I got a 2013 Tacoma and towing the exact same weight and been going everywhere in that truck. No issues what so ever.
Even towing with my 2500HD heavy duty pickup I would very seldom drive over 55-60 mph. I will never figure why people feel the need to drive 70 mph towing a trailer?
I towed my buddys single cab k1500 on a 3200lb trailer so it was around 10.5k and the truck did great. start was a little slow but once I got to about 12mph it did just fine. Never trust your friends when you ask them the weight of their trucks...
I have the same truck with K&N Cold filter and a very similar size and weight of trailer. Having the ECT/PWR on, the truck makes lots of noise but can easily handle the weight and size of the trailer. I live in Newfoundland Canada and every mile or two are hills and more hills. I've been hauling trailers around for the past 16 years and this is probably the best truck I've had for hauling this size trailer except for the engine revs and mileage. Enjoy your Taco and your trailer.
I have a 2018 Tacoma and just bought a new 17' toy hauler. My trailer is way lighter than you's at 3,300 pounds dry. I figure I'll be at 4,000 max with it loaded. It should handle it fine but if it doesn't I also have an F150. Wife is planning a trip to the Dempster in Northwest Territories for next year.
I have a 2012 Tacoma Prerunner with a tow pkg. Called factory in NC and they brought up my truck. I asked if I would have a problem pulling my 17' 3000 lb trailer. They said no. Truck could have a total of 1100 lbs. including load, passengers and fuel which I wouldn't even come close and could still pull a slightly larger RV, just using common sense of down shifting, no AC, no passing at high speeds, etc. I feel very comfortable pulling it over mtn passes and for the long haul. I do stop at the rest stop at the top of a 10 mile, 6% grade tho to cool down. BYW, I'm a 70 yo widow lady who's been camping for years and listened when those who know spoke
Susan Emerson if you have the V6 then you should have no problem. The factory probably got confused and thought you were talking about payload capacity which is different and in indeed is 1100lbs on most trucks. Towing capacity should be between 6300-6500lbs for V6 Trucks equipped with the tow package.
I just got a 2020 tacoma sx with the tow package. This made me feel much more confident to tow my 3500lbs car. I’m towing a small trailer to Chicago in a couple weeks (I think it’s like 1500-2000lbs). I read you should keep it in 4th gear when towing and ect was only used for “bursts” of power. I’m new to the taco world haha so idk
same truck v6 4x4 acess cab has a 4.30 axles ratio I tow my airstream 5600 lbs tow around local to the camp spots to -from storage , next move to its winter home from hatch new mexico to yuma Arizona going to be as lite as possible all empty tanks, hitch is 680 llbs il move the battery and propane tanks in to the bed of truck bring it down add more payload up front
I pull a 10000 pound 30 foot Toyhauler with an F150, been towing for 30 years, a mix of heavy machinery and 20 years towing an RV trailer. Your truck should be fine for the most part it would help you know how the truck is doing if you have it weighed at a truck stop. Weigh the truck by itself then the truck and trailer and you will see how the weight transfers on the truck's axles. Also try and adjust the weight distribution more so the rear of the truck doesn't squat so much this will help steering in windy conditions much better. Feel to let me know if you have any questions.
Thanks for this. I’m pulling a car from Baton Rouge to Houston then going to Dallas to pick up another car and going back to Baton Rouge. Was kinda worried about gas but your drive was wayyyy further. Think I’ll be good now lolol
I'm sure the Tacoma can handle it but it will be tough on it, I would suggest if you plan on hauling that trailer to get a tundra but if you only gonna haul it for some summer camping you will probably be fine God bless you
I have a '19 Tacoma TRD Off Road and am considering buying a travel trailer. I'm using information from videos like this to help guide my decision as to how much trailer I can tow. In looking at these discussions, I've realized that towing is a very specialized subset of vehicle operation that's not very well understood. The general consensus is that you shouldn't exceed 50% (very conservative) to 80% (probably too much) of your vehicle's towing capacity. Where you plan on driving, and how aerodynamic your trailer is seem to be the most significant factors in deciding how much you can pull. I think your trailer is just about at the limit of what you should be towing with your truck. You can do it, but loading your truck and trailer with a bunch of extra gear and trying to go up (or down!) a steep grade will tax your Tacoma. I've decided to buy a trailer that's no more than 60% of my truck's towing capacity, but really prefer it to be more like 55% or about 3,500 lbs.; If I want a bigger trailer, I need to get a bigger truck. I don't ever want to struggle going up a steep grade with a head wind, wear out my transmission, or worry about sharing the driving with my girlfriend with a really heavy trailer pushing my little truck around. I can also attest to how worthless WD 40 is as a lubricant. If you want the best aerosol lubricant, use Tri-Flow. Thanks for sharing!
I agree conservative is better. Luckily in my situation I never had to tow the trailer anywhere beyond to and from the RV dealer. The trailer was sold two years ago :)
Always male sure your safety chains are under everything. If they test on anything, they can shift and get pinched and cause damage. I would echo some of the other comments posted here about whether you have too much trailer or not enough truck. Look at the sticker on drivers door jamb and look for GVW and GCVW. When towing these numbers are very important. GVW is the max weight of the vehicle and everything and everyone in it. GCVW is the max weight of the truck and trailer combined. If you really want to know how much you can legally and safely tow, load your tow vehicle with everything you plan on having in it (persons, pets , luggage, firewood, full fuel) and weigh it. Subtract that weight from the GCVW, this number is what you can safely tow.
Yep my bad on not having the chains crossed. The towing capability on the V-6 Tacoma WITH the factory tow package is - "Toyota Tacoma has increased its maximum towing capacity by 300 pounds to an impressive 6,800 pounds when properly equipped." Yes it is not an ideal situation but it is doable in the limited use it will see for this duty, in my opinion.
I bet people have already commented but you don't want to pull a trailer in "D" you should put in S4. 5th and 6th are overdrive gears and are not for towing.
todd mayta I was just going to say that. I was cringing when I saw him lugging it around 2k going 53... oh well, I’m sure since the video has been posted he’s taken everyone’s tips?
I have a 17 double cab TRD off-road. I was running 3800 rpm with my 26' camper. The engine being an Atkinson's doesn't make much power till 3600 rpm. I have no issues with hills either. It's a higher RPM than you'd like to see but totally fine. I also installed a k&n cold air to see if that helped and it did drop off to a higher gear and around 2600 rpm on the flats. It's a big haul for the truck, but takes it like a champ. No temp issues, just poor mpg, but that's expected when slightly over doubling the weight the engine has to move.
Thanks for the testimony. Yea I never had any intention of using the Tacoma for cross country or other high demand situations. Florida is flat so the Tacoma will make due for the limited towing I will subject it to. The only rough thing would be if I try to go a few 100 miles at interstate speeds.
you seem to be very confused on how the Atkinson cycle in these trucks works. it uses Atkinson when needed to give better mileage and switches to otto when you need power I.E. put your foot down.
Well I’ve been looking up videos for reassurance, after seeing this I’m not scared 😱 I will be towing a 17’ Casita which is 2,500lbs with my 2016 DCLB Taco. Let’s go camping!
I pull a 5300 lb 26 ft trailer with my 2013 Tacoma. It pulls no problem but going up hill it definitely has to work hard. You need to base your total weight on the trailer and truck fully loaded. My guess is you Will be close to max towable weight. The means all cargo and people and even gas.
First off I own a 2016 Tacoma ACLB TRD OR, I routinely tow boats, RV's and utility trailers both enclosed and open. Second, anyone with towing experience will tell you NEVER exceed 75% of your tow vehicles rated capacity, having that 25% "cushion" can mean the difference between life and death on the highway. Third, WD-40 is NOT a lubricant it is a water displacement chemical hence the WD in the name. Fourth, you ALWAYS cross your towing safety chains, in the event the tongue somehow manages to come off the ball. Crossing the safety chains in an "X" configuration will prevent the tongue from digging itself into the ground or asphalt thus preventing that unintended "insanely rapid reduction in speed" and face planting into the windshield. Fifth, electronic brake controllers are fantastic additions when towing, more importantly brakes need to be upgraded if one intends to tow frequently. There are numerous options available for the 3rd Gen Tacoma to upgrade the brakes, drilled and/or slotted brake rotors are a must, both StopTech and Power Stop makes economical and highly recommended solutions with Power Stop now offering finned brake drums. Replacing the rubber flexible brake hoses with stainless braided hoses adds even more braking power. The critical issue with brakes and towing is heat especially while driving on grades and again the aftermarket offers solutions for this issue. Going back to never exceeding 75% of rated towing capacity, there are driveline matters to contend with if you expect the tow vehicle to last. Universal joints aren't particularly fond of the added weight and jerking on the hitch when towing neither are front upper and lower control arm bushings when stopping the the added weight not to mention the added load on the transmission and rear axle bearings. A vehicle properly setup to tow being mindful of towed weight will last and provide safe and dependable towing for years, if not setup properly it is guaranteed you will soon become your mechanics best friend helping them put their kids through medical or law school. I get to laugh often seeing people on the road towing with the fronts of the tow vehicle pointing towards the sky, the safety chains not connected properly flying down the highway without a clue. I usually get to see them again, mostly pulled over on the shoulder with some mechanical or tire related issue. Don't be a TOW FOOL!
I use a RAM 2500 Heavy Duty truck to tow our 8200 lbs. max weight trailer. Believe it or not we are just barely under our max PAYLOAD rating for this heavy duty truck when fully loaded with gas, people and cargo. I think if you check the sticker inside your drivers door of your truck for your max payload you will find you are probably going to be over. I would suggest in the interest of safety for yourselves and others on the road you should load it and the trailer like you would when going camping with a full fuel tank and any passengers you would be taking. Then go to a local scale house and check all your weights for your truck and trailer and make sure you are within your towing and payload limits with some safety margin. I work for the Ministry of Transportation in the province of Ontario so I have a good idea about towing safety. Check to make sure you are within your tricks limits and enjoy your camping!! P.S. it looks like you could tighten up your weight distribution bars. Measure the distance between your wheel and the top of your wheel well before you hook up the trailer. It shouldn’t be more than 1-2” drop in your truck when loaded. If there is tighten the chains on your WD bars until you are in the 1-2” range...
Finally a comment about payload. I realize this video is a few years old but thank you Dave Green for mentioning payload. I think this Taco is likely maxed or beyond it's payload spec.
When you set up a WD hitch, the manufacturer instructs to lift the hitch back up with the ball attached and then install the bars. That’s what keeps the truck/trailer level. The only thing I don’t like about towing my big load is the mpg sucks. Don’t be in a hurry.
I have a 09 TRD Sport that I tow a 18' equipment trailer with and have taken the trailer from Virginia to Florida and back three times so far. One return trip included a 96 V8 explorer, I did use the spare on that trip; However it still has three of the original tires from 08. I also use it to transport my John Deere 1025R with the loader and backhoe locally. I don't have a brake controller hooked up and really don't need it, because I don't drive like I was supposed to be where I'm going an hour ago and I extend following distance and brake early. I actually have the same type hitch that you have however I don't use the sway bars, my trailer tracks perfectly. I did put LED lights on the edge of the fenders so I know where the trailer is while driving at night. I rewired the whole trailer and replaced all the regular lights with the LED lights, you can actually see the lights are on in the daylight so I'm very happy with them. Take your time, get used to towing and always brake early. The biggest issue you may have is crosswinds, that trailer has a big profile although the sway bars will help, you need to realize that you are at the limits of safe towing for your truck. You should always perform a pre trip inspection to identify any potential issues, low tire pressure is the #1 cause of blow outs. Personally I prefer to travel overnight, this offers cooler temperatures and less traffic; I drive from Va. to Fl. three times a year, it usually works out to a 12.5 to 13 hour drive. I stop at the welcome centers and rest areas as needed and usually eat breakfast half way through Ga. Getting through Jacksonville and Orlando is all about timing. So planning your trip can save a lot of time and wear and tear from sitting in traffic. I'm planning on getting a camper about half that size that will still have two axles.
Just a heads up. It looks like you have your tow safety chains over your hitch. Just want to make sure you have them crossed under the hitch and stabilization bars. had a buddy loose the trailer and truck when the hitch came off, tongue dug in the ground and flipped the trailer. If the chains act as a cradle it can help prevent this. just looking out for you. Couldn't tell 100% but better say something than have an issue.
I have about 6 yrs experience towing with my 2009 Tacoma TRD, Quad Cab TRD, 4 Liter V6. I pull a 4400 lb 2 axle trailer. I use a towing stabilizer and have towing brakes with a electronic assist module inside. I have BFG TKO LT Tires, I always air up the rear tires to 50lbs, front at 40 lbs. The transmission has an additional cooler. I need a Trans temp gauge. When I start I only put about 5 gals of water in the fresh tank. I also leave empty on the other tanks. I probably carry about an additional 800lbs of gear all told. 2 passengers. Total weight is 5600 lbs out of the 6500 max capability. I drive as much as 1000 miles to my destinations. I drive the I-5 from Oregon to LA. Here the route pulls many hills and 2 major passes. When I drive I put the transmission in 4D, no overdrive, so it pulls the trans up to a higher RPM. The overall performance is satisfactory. I usually pull steep hills at 35-45 mph. The rest is normal at a speed of 63mph in Cali. MPG is around 10-13. So cruising range is about 150 miles to refill. After disconnecting the truck gets around 19mpg. I have around 108k miles on my truck and have serviced the trans since I began pulling with no noticeable problems. So far I have pulled the trailer 10-12k miles. Hope this helps
Thanks for the feedback. My feeling on it is basically you can tow 5k plus with a V6 Tacoma but it is not an ideal situation. Mine has the electronic brake controller and factory tow package that includes an aux tran cooler and more. That being said, when I had that trailer on the road I felt like the truck was at the limit of it's capabilities.
I live in the Appalachian mountains in VA and I have a 2013 TRD Sport with the 6spd manual. I once pulled an older Jayco camper that is probably 8-10ft longer than this with minimal squat and effort. The sketchy part was the braking, I didn't have a brake controller and they are a must have!
If you're in the trucks specs youre fine. I know this is against the law and I don't recommend it, but my 2011 2.7 Tacoma towed 10,000lbs 15 miles on flat ground. We had a job to do and the 3/4 ton Duramax had injector issues so we hitched up to my lil taco and she got the job done. (I did have a brake controller and we went slow) but yes I know that's stupid to do, just saying the truck will do it.
Hey Duff Man I subbed ages ago when you got the Tacoma. You had a handful of subs. Good to see you have your Tacoma still I finally got my new tacón on 10-31-2016 and still have mine paid off over a year ago and it’s now worth more than what I paid. Crazy huh Good to see your doing well on your channel and Tacoma Be well!
On your new trailer if its new be aware to make as wide of Right hand turns as possible to avoid stressing your frame . I would look for broken frames on youtube channels . If it is not a new trailer I would inspect the frame from 4 ft before and behind the tandem axles . I caught mine before it collapsed . The twisting and scrubbing of the tires can push the cross braces through the web of the I beams or pull the welds through the I beams . Its really poor metal in the Lippert Frames .
When you lower the hitch assembly to the receiver ball always have the hitch assembly safety lock in the up position. Once the receiver ball seats into the hitch assembly, lock down the safety lever to level lock position. If the safety lock doesn’t seat to the level lock position, then the hitch ball is not seated correctly. That noise your heard was the receiver ball banging the hitch assembly because it was not seated. I know you know about it now since I have just watched this segment in June of ‘18......
I have heard opinions going both ways and technically it is within the rated tow capacity of the truck, however, I do agree with you that for regular towing it would get old pretty fast. Luckily the trailer will likely never be towed across state lines.
You have to remember a travel trailer is like towing a billboard there is LBS, but the drag is another factor. I own a 2016 taco and a 2010 tundra, I never tow with the taco, with off road tires, the truck seems to barely get out of its own way lol. Good luck, be safe
I pulled our 26' Keystone Bullet with my 2018 Taco TRD Off Road through the mountains Colorado, Washington and Oregon fully loaded no issues except for it drank gas like a drunken sailor
If you live in a flat state, you should be able to tow fine. I guess the test will be when going over passes and go on steep down grades. Anyway happy camping.
Hey Duf! Love this video! Can you give an update on your towing experience with the Tacoma. I have the same truck and planned to buy a 2020 Grand Design Imagine 17 MKE with a dry weight of 4,456 lbs. and a hitch weight of 428 lbs. Thanks for your help!
To be honest I only towed the trailer a few times before we sold it a few months back. Your tow weight is a significantly less, I would expect you to not have any problem. Even with the trailer, the Tacoma handled it ok but it worked HARD at highway speeds. here is my last tow before I sold it - ruclips.net/video/6Gw02g6C8cc/видео.html
With my german driving license I can tow up to 1653 lbs trailer only, or 7716 lbs combined GCWR. Yeah, there is no 0 missing. My country really sucks that bad.
With a truck that new I would have gotten the tundra. That is max on that taco. Especially when you load that camper up it won't just be dry weight. I have a prerunner taco and love the truck but it sucks pulling a 3,000 lb boat up hills. Good luck
Even though you may be under the max tow weight for the Tacoma you still have the payload limit that restricts you. I believe the listed payload on your Tacoma is 1150 pounds which includes people, cargo and TONGUE weight. The tongue weight on trailers are somewhere between 10 and 15 percent of the total weight of the trailer. So if you are towing a 6000 pound trailer you have a tongue weight of 600 to 700 pounds. 1150 minus 700 leaves you with 450. If you weigh 200 and your wife weighs 150 then that only leaves you with 100 pounds of any additional cargo in the cab or in the bed! In the event that you happen to calculate these weights wrong and end up over any of the weight restrictions and you are involved in a fatal accident God forbid, you could be charged with vehicular manslaughter for being negligent driving an over weight vehicle regardless if the accident is your fault or not.
@@ryanskare6670 What was the weight of your boat? I have a 1994 2150 hydra sport and I want to buy a Tacoma but worried it won’t pull or stop the 4500LB beast comfortably.
@@doublew030 at 4500 with a tandem axle and trailer brakes you should be ok. No Overdrive and turn on ETC. Do regular service on your diffs. I've since moved to a 20 foot boat that comes in at 4200 and it tows with ease.
I purchased a Tacoma TRD 4WD with V6 4.0 engine 9 years ago for $31000, i though the V6 is good enough for me hence the better gas mileage, but how wrong i was, my gas mileage average is 18 mpg, the Tundra is actually about the same with V8, now I'm going to buy a toy hauler with 5790 lb dry weight and my Tacoma can only tow 6500 lb with transmission cooler and towing pkg, towing expert told me not to exceed 80% of the maximum towing weight or the transmission and engine won't last long like Duf mentioned the high rpm cruising speed, the price difference is only $1500 for the Tundra V8 and it can easily tow 8000lb and up, so i might have to trade my Tacoma for a Tundra.
Interesting... that’s a lot of trailer on the Tacoma! Although it’ll do it I had a 2014 Tacoma with a factory tow package, towed a couple smaller trailers and it really seemed like he trailer could have easily been in charge if things didn’t go well since the truck is so light! Anyways cool video thank you for sharing.
Well that is a big reason that Camping World told me I needed the expensive 10,000 pound rated stabilizing hitch. The Tacoma is certainly no full size truck but it is pretty substantial. Just for reference a Tacoma curb weight is between 4000 and 4500 pounds depending on equipment. A full size Ford F150 is rated at 4050 to 5200 pounds curb weight depending on equipment. So yes there is a difference but it is not huge.
I've seen people pull that weight with a traverse, that toyota could do it even if the trailer was loaded with 4 wheelers. You just wouldn't go very fast without a supercharger
im thinking about looking into a tacoma trd pro, and i have an outback two axle trailer (similar to yours), from my house to pismo is about 2 hours, and im still wondering if i can tow it there for a week and back.
Well the general consensus seems to be it can do it but you are on the bleeding edge of it's capacity. If you want more of a safety margin a full size truck will offer that.
The weight distribution hitch you have on it takes care of sag. Makes truck and trailer sit level. I would recommend keeping an eye on transmission temps if it has a gauge. Especially if you plan to do long hauls. If you run into issues you may consider additional or upgrading factory transmission cooler.
James Peters: No, it doesn't all the time. depends on truck and how much sag. mine is set up properly and I still have small sag on my 2016 tundra because of the mods I installed. Air bags are a great mod. With that being said, he has no business pulling a camper of this weight and size with a Tacoma. Too much camper too little truck. He should be pulling this particular camper with no less than a 1/2 ton. Trade the Tocoma for a Tundra then you will have ZERO issues.
If you look at my recent videos you will see I just towed it about 40 miles and arrived in one piece. However I agree, this is too much trailer to tow for extended periods.
Its recommended to only tow up to 70% of weight. Also that rv is like a big sale when going down the interstate. I bet the cross winds would blow that thing all over being towed by that Toyota. Trust me I know. I pull a boat with mine half the weight and more arrow dynamic.
If you are camping with 50 miles of home the Toyota will do the job. I would not even consider pulling this trailer across the country with this truck. Looks like you going to have difficulty backing this trailer up back to where you store it. I would consider the F-150 with the auto pilot backing system you can back your trailer up into any tight spot just my turning the dial.
I have a trailer that I pull with my tacoma roughly the same size as the one in the video. I was skeptical at first but I pulled it pretty easy. Higher RPM and more gas but that’s expected. It feels good knowing the truck begins to pull from a stop as soon as I let go of the brake. I would NOT take this thing in the mountains though.. Just drive it nice and easy.
That truck will tow it if the rear end is at least a 3:55 , a 3:73 would be better . I hope your brake controller is a good one or you better get one that scenes the braking speed. You would be so much safer with a 7000 pound 3/4 ton truck with a full floating axle and class E tires .
You have to think in size, the Tacoma is just about the same size as the older Ford Rangers. I know, I traded my Ford Ranger in for a Toyata Tacoma and while at the dealership my Ranger was parked next to the Tacoma. So asked yourself this. Would you concider pulling something with a Ford Ranger?
I have a version of that trailer, the Tacoma will move it and you can probably move it around town but anything long distance the Tacoma isn’t the best choice
I’m not here to criticize at all. I believe in using skill and towing sense to accomplish things that might be dangerous with a novice. So, bravo there. But with that said, on most (all) towing vids I see people refer directly to max tow poundage for reference as to what their truck is capable of. Those max tow ratings are calculated with a certain minimum of frontal area such as a utility trailer hauling bricks or firewood. Frontal area of a travel trailer calculated in, the max tow rating probably drops 30% at least, before a headwind. A Tacoma will have no trouble with a 16ft utility trailer and a cord or green oak which would be comparable weight to the travel trailer. But the travel trailer is far more taxing on the drivetrain at road speed. And, the heavy utility would have almost no reaction to side winds, whereas the travel trailer tries to take the truck with it.
If you read the comments here they cover both opinions pretty well. Some say it is ridiculous, some say they pull loads as big if not bigger than this and have been fine. The truth is we are currently trying to sell the trailer and there is a chance I may never have to tow it again. ;)
Definitely do your safety chains up properly next time before going on the open road. Plus I would never consider a 1/4 ton truck as a tow vehicle personally. That trailer will have you whipping all over the road in any sort of cross wind, even with stabilizer bars. Both my dad and my brother each own a Tacoma and neither one of them could stand up to pulling grunt power to my F350. 1/4 ton trucks should stick with tiny boat trailers and tent trailers, leave the travel trailers to at least a 1/2 ton.
I hear you and admit it is less than ideal. However in the very limited, flat, short distance towing I would be doing with the Taco I am fairly confident that I will be fine.
sirkingdra I dont think that the Tacoma is even considered a 1/4 ton truck. I have a Chevy silverado 1500 with a longer wheelbase and bigger engine and I tow my 28 foot travel trailer just fine. That Tacoma is just not enough truck for that camper. Period!
victor urbina I just assumed it was a 1/4 ton, similar to a Ford Ranger or a Chevy S10/Colorado or Dodge Dokota. The Tundra is Toyotas 1/2 ton and the Tacoma is smaller so I figured it'd be considered a 1/4 ton. My dad and brother both own Tacoma's but dad only tows his 14' 300 lbs aluminum fishing boat with his, we leave all the serious grunt power to my 2001 F350 :)
sirkingdra no harm buddy. I've always hear them referred to those model trucks as mid size trucks then you have you 1/2 tons that start the full size pick up range. But hey, call it what you want. As long as you're happy with it towing short distances. But in my honest opinion that tow vehicle is too small for that travel trailer. I would go with a 1/2 ton minimal with the max tow package. You can go with a 3/4 ton but I dont think that's necessary unless you're towing very long distances. If that's the case I would suggest a 3/4 ton diesel.
@@Duf thank you for the reply. I was thinking of starting a debris hauling business. Of course I would want a bigger truck eventually but for now at least I know the tacoma can pull that
4500 rpm is too high. Towing my 28' RV trailer (6400 dry) at 60-62 mph I can keep it in overdrive RPM's around 1750. With the tow-haul in gauged. (2014 Tundra with the 5.7). You will have to play around with it to lower your RPM's. If I try to push it to say 65-67 mpg, yes the RPM's go up to 2200-2300 range, gas mileage goes down.
Great video except for the annoying circus music that floods out the arleady bad voice audio. Very hard to hear you sometimes and the background video game music doesn't help. Just a suggestion.
Hey what's up man and I trailers nothing for that stuff, my dad had a 2001 Toyota Tacoma a pulled up to 10700 pounds but that truck without the max tow package and once I'm 4000 pounds and the bed like nothing I did not struggle like nothing
I don't have the video man but my dad and I seen it with my dad's truck my dad had I used to have a Tacoma now he has a tundra we love that song, but was too small for him inside but my truck was powerful
No offense. I've pulling campers since 1975. Overkill is AWESOME....No way would I pull that camper with that truck. Pulling is one thing. Stopping when in trouble, is another. I pull a 27 foot Air Stream with a 2500HD. Next....i have to LOL....Wife's??...I never go pickup my Airstream and back it in our driveway. Unless she isn't around. I can drive in reverse better than most go forward....I'm a basket case when she watches. Because she gets nervous like your wife. But, if you insist on doing it. Get you some walky talkys. And always use Drivers Side and Passenger side as reference. Not left and right....looks like your in Florida. We are in St.Augustine..have fun
Lol you're truck will move almost everything is on tire...they gave u a max towing capacity to avoid that you'll blow a transmission or the engine..but if you won't even be able to move it I'll say something is wrong..
@@Duf that's what i mean.... The fact that you move it won't mean anything...pulling it every day will show if you can or not... that's what the tow capacity is..my tow capacity is 4500 lbs .. I've towed 10000 lbs easily...but I won't do it everyday tho Lol
Take it from a guy who towed a 23' airstream 70K miles around the western US with a 2009 Tacoma, that is way too much trailer. Tacoma brakes suck, fuel range sucks, towing that trailer is not a good idea. My Airstream was 1000 lbs lighter than your trailer, no way I would ever go bigger...
The most helpful comment yet, I'm going to be pulling a 2500# 7x12 cargo trailer out west and was looking at tacomas. I've yet to see a video where doing 60-65 on the highway didn't seem to tax the motor. I believe I'll look at a tundra instead. Thanks for posting your comment!!!
So the truck can tow 6600 and the trailer is 5600. Put on the hitch you just bought, you, the wife and all of the stuff you are going to put in it and that puts you at maxed or over the weight of your truck. If DOT pulls you over you will not be able to move if the trooper is a ass. Countless other things that aren’t safe but I’m not here to preach.
If you look at the comments you will see people with much different thoughts with several examples of trucks like mine pulling similar loads successfully and repeatedly. Perhaps I wasn't clear enough in the video but any towing of the trailer I do will be limited in distance and few in number.
Dufisthenics I completely understand, will it tow it yes it will. But if it comes down to a legal standpoint DOT will have a issue with it. Just remember that when you do tow it you are rolling the dice legally. I’m not knocking anything you have just be safe. Love the color of the truck also.
So what exactly would the DOT flag me for? If the truck is rated to tow 6600 and the loaded trailer weight is under that, what is the violation? We are aware we are at the top end of the limit and would pack accordingly. For instance during my test tow we made sure all holding tanks were essentially empty.
Dufisthenics the truck is rated for 6600 total tow weight the trailer is 5600, you have to add you, the wife, hitch, personal belongings and other miscellaneous items will put you over that weight rating of your truck. Remember the cost is 1$ a pound overweight from DOT. I weighed just my truck and trailer at a CAT scale then did so while I was on my camping loaded up and everything extra put me 1300lb heavier. Me, Wife, little one, cloths so on and so on. I have the same camper you do but I tow it with a crew cab Ford F-150 eco boost.
No way a trooper is going to know what the max towing capacity is on a non-commercial truck. There's so many pickup trucks on the road and even within the same model, things like two-wheel drive, four-wheel drive, crew cab effect the max tow capacity. The best a trooper would be able to determine is if the trailer itself is 10,000 lb gross or not. If it's over 10,000 pounds then you need an upgraded driver's license. That's the most that any Troopers going to be able to determine on a non-commercial.
I have a 2006 Prerunner with 200k miles, just bought a Keystone Passport, dry weight 4880. My first trip was pulling home from Atlanta GA, to central TX, 900 miles+- . The Mighty Taco handles the trailer fine. Yes it slows down on the hills, and gas mileage sucks when towing, but I have no problem keeping the speed limit 90% of the time. I know a lot of people who think you need a 600 hp mini locomotive turbo duelly 4X to pull a trailer once a year, but the Tacoma can handle a mid 5k pound trailer fine.
Thanks for the info Jim. I have seen multiple Taco owners on here back up the ability for the truck to handle this load, considering it will be flat driving and infrequently done.
What kind of gas mileage did you get towing?
Dufisthenics
In all due respect, being on the road is more relevant than how often. Sounds to me you like to gamble.
Dufisthenics you have nothing to worry about it handles it fine your not pulling it everyday
I dnt know much about trailers..but i bought one n have a Tacoma..will it be ok?? Its a 32ft but maybe 40 all amd all..😕
Just for future reference, WD 40 is not a lubricant. WD stands for water displacement and this stuff is mainly a solvent and is good at breaking up rust. Anytime you need a lubricant you should use a silicone spray where there is light friction. Or a grease for tougher jobs. I find white lithium grease, that you can get in a spray can, does a great job and does not dry out easily.
Hmm I believe you but I can't tell you how many things I have successfully lubricated over the years with the product. :) However good tip and next time it sticks I'll pull out the silicon.
cliff woods yeah good tip thanks 👍 😎
Just spit on it
Look on EBay for Equalizer lubricant. It is a blue lube and you put a small pea size on the hitch head (where bars go into) that is enough lubricant to stop creaking and groaning. Also use some of that lube and lube up that hitch ball as well. DO NOT lube the L brackets.
Wax and Diesel. That's why it also stops squeaks.
I have a 2017 tacoma trd sport 4x2 & I towed a 20ft car trailer with a ford escape on it from Nebraska to California (1600miles).Total towing weight was 6000 lbs. My taco handled the weight like a champ. The only thing that suffered was my mpg....... 11.9...
I tow a 4500lb fifth wheel with my 2017 Tacoma. I recommend Firestone Ride Rite air helper springs, world of difference in handling.
Thanks for the idea.
ICanDoItMyself love to know more about your setup, fifth wheel is my preference but the owners manual does not recommend for my 2018
Is your truck a short bed or long bed Tacoma? I prefer a 5th wheel as well and just bought a 2019 Tacoma short bed
12:51 fast forward to the good stuff.
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Honestly I came here thinking it wouldn't pull so well. I'm a Ford guy but I'm super impressed with this tacoma. Good work!!
Yep not an ideal situation but it can do it.
Well within the limits of your truck. Don’t even worry about it, keep going out and enjoy it.
I got a 2013 Tacoma and towing the exact same weight and been going everywhere in that truck. No issues what so ever.
Thanks for the reassurance!
Even towing with my 2500HD heavy duty pickup I would very seldom drive over 55-60 mph. I will never figure why people feel the need to drive 70 mph towing a trailer?
I agree.
I towed my buddys single cab k1500 on a 3200lb trailer so it was around 10.5k and the truck did great. start was a little slow but once I got to about 12mph it did just fine. Never trust your friends when you ask them the weight of their trucks...
I have the same truck with K&N Cold filter and a very similar size and weight of trailer. Having the ECT/PWR on, the truck makes lots of noise but can easily handle the weight and size of the trailer. I live in Newfoundland Canada and every mile or two are hills and more hills. I've been hauling trailers around for the past 16 years and this is probably the best truck I've had for hauling this size trailer except for the engine revs and mileage. Enjoy your Taco and your trailer.
Very cool, if you read some of the comments on here, some people disagree with you, strongly. :)
I have a 2018 Tacoma and just bought a new 17' toy hauler. My trailer is way lighter than you's at 3,300 pounds dry. I figure I'll be at 4,000 max with it loaded. It should handle it fine but if it doesn't I also have an F150. Wife is planning a trip to the Dempster in Northwest Territories for next year.
Yea you should have no issue pulling that.
I have a 2012 Tacoma Prerunner with a tow pkg. Called factory in NC and they brought up my truck. I asked if I would have a problem pulling my 17' 3000 lb trailer. They said no. Truck could have a total of 1100 lbs. including load, passengers and fuel which I wouldn't even come close and could still pull a slightly larger RV, just using common sense of down shifting, no AC, no passing at high speeds, etc. I feel very comfortable pulling it over mtn passes and for the long haul. I do stop at the rest stop at the top of a 10 mile, 6% grade tho to cool down. BYW, I'm a 70 yo widow lady who's been camping for years and listened when those who know spoke
Susan Emerson if you have the V6 then you should have no problem. The factory probably got confused and thought you were talking about payload capacity which is different and in indeed is 1100lbs on most trucks. Towing capacity should be between 6300-6500lbs for V6 Trucks equipped with the tow package.
hey BlackdogGS what kind of toy hauler did you get. I am looking in to buy one and I am trying to find a well built one.
Always start out from a stop in 1st gear. Then shift up to 2nd and so on as you increase speed. This will help protect the transmission
K never heard that, thanks
It's an automatic..
@bsfunk44 so....my auto has a manual option
I just got a 2020 tacoma sx with the tow package. This made me feel much more confident to tow my 3500lbs car. I’m towing a small trailer to Chicago in a couple weeks (I think it’s like 1500-2000lbs). I read you should keep it in 4th gear when towing and ect was only used for “bursts” of power. I’m new to the taco world haha so idk
same truck v6 4x4 acess cab has a 4.30 axles ratio I tow my airstream 5600 lbs tow around local to the camp spots to -from storage , next move to its winter home from hatch new mexico to yuma Arizona going to be as lite as possible all empty tanks, hitch is 680 llbs il move the battery and propane tanks in to the bed of truck bring it down add more payload up front
I pull a 10000 pound 30 foot Toyhauler with an F150, been towing for 30 years, a mix of heavy machinery and 20 years towing an RV trailer. Your truck should be fine for the most part it would help you know how the truck is doing if you have it weighed at a truck stop. Weigh the truck by itself then the truck and trailer and you will see how the weight transfers on the truck's axles. Also try and adjust the weight distribution more so the rear of the truck doesn't squat so much this will help steering in windy conditions much better. Feel to let me know if you have any questions.
Thanks for the info!
Not bad! That is a big ol trailer for the tacoma. Seems like it did ok. Good idea to cross the chains up if you have enough slack.
We got a LOT of WTF looks.
Exactly why its a good idea to do so.. Herp derp
27 ft camper in my tacoma from ca to Florida
no problem just driving 60 miles per hour
gas 500$
installed extra shock in the back 200$
Thanks for this. I’m pulling a car from Baton Rouge to Houston then going to Dallas to pick up another car and going back to Baton Rouge. Was kinda worried about gas but your drive was wayyyy further. Think I’ll be good now lolol
I'm sure the Tacoma can handle it but it will be tough on it, I would suggest if you plan on hauling that trailer to get a tundra but if you only gonna haul it for some summer camping you will probably be fine God bless you
I have a '19 Tacoma TRD Off Road and am considering buying a travel trailer. I'm using information from videos like this to help guide my decision as to how much trailer I can tow. In looking at these discussions, I've realized that towing is a very specialized subset of vehicle operation that's not very well understood. The general consensus is that you shouldn't exceed 50% (very conservative) to 80% (probably too much) of your vehicle's towing capacity. Where you plan on driving, and how aerodynamic your trailer is seem to be the most significant factors in deciding how much you can pull. I think your trailer is just about at the limit of what you should be towing with your truck. You can do it, but loading your truck and trailer with a bunch of extra gear and trying to go up (or down!) a steep grade will tax your Tacoma.
I've decided to buy a trailer that's no more than 60% of my truck's towing capacity, but really prefer it to be more like 55% or about 3,500 lbs.; If I want a bigger trailer, I need to get a bigger truck. I don't ever want to struggle going up a steep grade with a head wind, wear out my transmission, or worry about sharing the driving with my girlfriend with a really heavy trailer pushing my little truck around. I can also attest to how worthless WD 40 is as a lubricant. If you want the best aerosol lubricant, use Tri-Flow. Thanks for sharing!
I agree conservative is better. Luckily in my situation I never had to tow the trailer anywhere beyond to and from the RV dealer. The trailer was sold two years ago :)
Always male sure your safety chains are under everything. If they test on anything, they can shift and get pinched and cause damage.
I would echo some of the other comments posted here about whether you have too much trailer or not enough truck. Look at the sticker on drivers door jamb and look for GVW and GCVW. When towing these numbers are very important. GVW is the max weight of the vehicle and everything and everyone in it. GCVW is the max weight of the truck and trailer combined. If you really want to know how much you can legally and safely tow, load your tow vehicle with everything you plan on having in it (persons, pets , luggage, firewood, full fuel) and weigh it. Subtract that weight from the GCVW, this number is what you can safely tow.
Yep my bad on not having the chains crossed.
The towing capability on the V-6 Tacoma WITH the factory tow package is - "Toyota Tacoma has increased its maximum towing capacity by 300 pounds to an impressive 6,800 pounds when properly equipped."
Yes it is not an ideal situation but it is doable in the limited use it will see for this duty, in my opinion.
“Taking advantage of being close to the home” is like 100’ away! Love your big lot!
Yea the lot is 660 feet long in total, lots of room to do things...
I bet people have already commented but you don't want to pull a trailer in "D" you should put in S4. 5th and 6th are overdrive gears and are not for towing.
todd mayta I was just going to say that. I was cringing when I saw him lugging it around 2k going 53... oh well, I’m sure since the video has been posted he’s taken everyone’s tips?
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Even when you manually select gears, it will upshift on its own. These trucks suck for towing. I've got a 2016 limited, all they do is hunt for gears.
@@anthonysanchez9746 Should of got the manual then
I have a 17 double cab TRD off-road. I was running 3800 rpm with my 26' camper. The engine being an Atkinson's doesn't make much power till 3600 rpm. I have no issues with hills either. It's a higher RPM than you'd like to see but totally fine. I also installed a k&n cold air to see if that helped and it did drop off to a higher gear and around 2600 rpm on the flats. It's a big haul for the truck, but takes it like a champ. No temp issues, just poor mpg, but that's expected when slightly over doubling the weight the engine has to move.
Thanks for the testimony. Yea I never had any intention of using the Tacoma for cross country or other high demand situations. Florida is flat so the Tacoma will make due for the limited towing I will subject it to. The only rough thing would be if I try to go a few 100 miles at interstate speeds.
And you are very right about power at 3500+, it's very pronounced once you hit those revs....
you seem to be very confused on how the Atkinson cycle in these trucks works. it uses Atkinson when needed to give better mileage and switches to otto when you need power I.E. put your foot down.
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Well I’ve been looking up videos for reassurance, after seeing this I’m not scared 😱 I will be towing a 17’ Casita which is 2,500lbs with my 2016 DCLB Taco. Let’s go camping!
Yea you should have no problem. :)
I pull a 5300 lb 26 ft trailer with my 2013 Tacoma. It pulls no problem but going up hill it definitely has to work hard. You need to base your total weight on the trailer and truck fully loaded. My guess is you Will be close to max towable weight. The means all cargo and people and even gas.
First off I own a 2016 Tacoma ACLB TRD OR, I routinely tow boats, RV's and utility trailers both enclosed and open. Second, anyone with towing experience will tell you NEVER exceed 75% of your tow vehicles rated capacity, having that 25% "cushion" can mean the difference between life and death on the highway. Third, WD-40 is NOT a lubricant it is a water displacement chemical hence the WD in the name. Fourth, you ALWAYS cross your towing safety chains, in the event the tongue somehow manages to come off the ball. Crossing the safety chains in an "X" configuration will prevent the tongue from digging itself into the ground or asphalt thus preventing that unintended "insanely rapid reduction in speed" and face planting into the windshield. Fifth, electronic brake controllers are fantastic additions when towing, more importantly brakes need to be upgraded if one intends to tow frequently. There are numerous options available for the 3rd Gen Tacoma to upgrade the brakes, drilled and/or slotted brake rotors are a must, both StopTech and Power Stop makes economical and highly recommended solutions with Power Stop now offering finned brake drums. Replacing the rubber flexible brake hoses with stainless braided hoses adds even more braking power. The critical issue with brakes and towing is heat especially while driving on grades and again the aftermarket offers solutions for this issue.
Going back to never exceeding 75% of rated towing capacity, there are driveline matters to contend with if you expect the tow vehicle to last. Universal joints aren't particularly fond of the added weight and jerking on the hitch when towing neither are front upper and lower control arm bushings when stopping the the added weight not to mention the added load on the transmission and rear axle bearings. A vehicle properly setup to tow being mindful of towed weight will last and provide safe and dependable towing for years, if not setup properly it is guaranteed you will soon become your mechanics best friend helping them put their kids through medical or law school.
I get to laugh often seeing people on the road towing with the fronts of the tow vehicle pointing towards the sky, the safety chains not connected properly flying down the highway without a clue. I usually get to see them again, mostly pulled over on the shoulder with some mechanical or tire related issue. Don't be a TOW FOOL!
I have heard a number of your comments previously, and I agree with them.
I use a RAM 2500 Heavy Duty truck to tow our 8200 lbs. max weight trailer. Believe it or not we are just barely under our max PAYLOAD rating for this heavy duty truck when fully loaded with gas, people and cargo. I think if you check the sticker inside your drivers door of your truck for your max payload you will find you are probably going to be over. I would suggest in the interest of safety for yourselves and others on the road you should load it and the trailer like you would when going camping with a full fuel tank and any passengers you would be taking. Then go to a local scale house and check all your weights for your truck and trailer and make sure you are within your towing and payload limits with some safety margin. I work for the Ministry of Transportation in the province of Ontario so I have a good idea about towing safety. Check to make sure you are within your tricks limits and enjoy your camping!!
P.S. it looks like you could tighten up your weight distribution bars. Measure the distance between your wheel and the top of your wheel well before you hook up the trailer. It shouldn’t be more than 1-2” drop in your truck when loaded. If there is tighten the chains on your WD bars until you are in the 1-2” range...
Thanks for all the info and advice. Any towing I would do of the trailer will be on flat terrain over short distances.
Finally a comment about payload. I realize this video is a few years old but thank you Dave Green for mentioning payload. I think this Taco is likely maxed or beyond it's payload spec.
When you set up a WD hitch, the manufacturer instructs to lift the hitch back up with the ball attached and then install the bars. That’s what keeps the truck/trailer level.
The only thing I don’t like about towing my big load is the mpg sucks.
Don’t be in a hurry.
Good tips and I agree, anything over 55-60 was asking too much.
I have a 09 TRD Sport that I tow a 18' equipment trailer with and have taken the trailer from Virginia to Florida and back three times so far. One return trip included a 96 V8 explorer, I did use the spare on that trip; However it still has three of the original tires from 08. I also use it to transport my John Deere 1025R with the loader and backhoe locally. I don't have a brake controller hooked up and really don't need it, because I don't drive like I was supposed to be where I'm going an hour ago and I extend following distance and brake early. I actually have the same type hitch that you have however I don't use the sway bars, my trailer tracks perfectly. I did put LED lights on the edge of the fenders so I know where the trailer is while driving at night. I rewired the whole trailer and replaced all the regular lights with the LED lights, you can actually see the lights are on in the daylight so I'm very happy with them.
Take your time, get used to towing and always brake early. The biggest issue you may have is crosswinds, that trailer has a big profile although the sway bars will help, you need to realize that you are at the limits of safe towing for your truck. You should always perform a pre trip inspection to identify any potential issues, low tire pressure is the #1 cause of blow outs. Personally I prefer to travel overnight, this offers cooler temperatures and less traffic; I drive from Va. to Fl. three times a year, it usually works out to a 12.5 to 13 hour drive. I stop at the welcome centers and rest areas as needed and usually eat breakfast half way through Ga. Getting through Jacksonville and Orlando is all about timing. So planning your trip can save a lot of time and wear and tear from sitting in traffic.
I'm planning on getting a camper about half that size that will still have two axles.
Thanks for the feedback and info.
Wait until you tow in the hills/mtns....Even more fun and way less mpgs!
Yea no doubt.
Cool video I have a 17' Tacoma with the tow package. I have a 2020 jayco it's 5500 lb dry. I pulled it just fine .
Yep very similar weight to this trailer. It's not an ideal truck to tow that size load but it can get it done.
2021 Tacoma SR with Tow package. Im pulling a Jayco 264bh. 4800 dry weight.
Just a heads up. It looks like you have your tow safety chains over your hitch. Just want to make sure you have them crossed under the hitch and stabilization bars. had a buddy loose the trailer and truck when the hitch came off, tongue dug in the ground and flipped the trailer. If the chains act as a cradle it can help prevent this. just looking out for you. Couldn't tell 100% but better say something than have an issue.
Yes you are right they were not criss-crossed and should have been. They will be next time!
don't just cross them, put them Underneath.
exactly what I was thinking when watching this.
honestly those trucks are so beast, you could pull that as far as you wanted
I have about 6 yrs experience towing with my 2009 Tacoma TRD, Quad Cab TRD, 4 Liter V6. I pull a 4400 lb 2 axle trailer. I use a towing stabilizer and have towing brakes with a electronic assist module inside. I have BFG TKO LT Tires, I always air up the rear tires to 50lbs, front at 40 lbs. The transmission has an additional cooler. I need a Trans temp gauge. When I start I only put about 5 gals of water in the fresh tank. I also leave empty on the other tanks. I probably carry about an additional 800lbs of gear all told. 2 passengers. Total weight is 5600 lbs out of the 6500 max capability. I drive as much as 1000 miles to my destinations. I drive the I-5 from Oregon to LA. Here the route pulls many hills and 2 major passes. When I drive I put the transmission in 4D, no overdrive, so it pulls the trans up to a higher RPM. The overall performance is satisfactory. I usually pull steep hills at 35-45 mph. The rest is normal at a speed of 63mph in Cali. MPG is around 10-13. So cruising range is about 150 miles to refill. After disconnecting the truck gets around 19mpg. I have around 108k miles on my truck and have serviced the trans since I began pulling with no noticeable problems. So far I have pulled the trailer 10-12k miles. Hope this helps
Thanks for the feedback. My feeling on it is basically you can tow 5k plus with a V6 Tacoma but it is not an ideal situation. Mine has the electronic brake controller and factory tow package that includes an aux tran cooler and more. That being said, when I had that trailer on the road I felt like the truck was at the limit of it's capabilities.
@@Duf I saw that too. Nice review, best of luck in the future.
My dad used to say, just because you can do something, doesn't mean you should do something.
Your dad sounds wise.
My dad used to say, nothing ventured, nothing gained.
Very wiseLorran Gee
My dad used to say “you’re a disappointment son”
My dad used to say, damned if you do, damned if you dont.
I live in the Appalachian mountains in VA and I have a 2013 TRD Sport with the 6spd manual. I once pulled an older Jayco camper that is probably 8-10ft longer than this with minimal squat and effort. The sketchy part was the braking, I didn't have a brake controller and they are a must have!
Oh wow that must have been interesting.
Brave man...I'm being nice....lol
If you're in the trucks specs youre fine. I know this is against the law and I don't recommend it, but my 2011 2.7 Tacoma towed 10,000lbs 15 miles on flat ground. We had a job to do and the 3/4 ton Duramax had injector issues so we hitched up to my lil taco and she got the job done. (I did have a brake controller and we went slow) but yes I know that's stupid to do, just saying the truck will do it.
Yep I recognize it is less than ideal, but on flat terrain for limited miles I think I am ok.
Hey Duff Man
I subbed ages ago when you got the Tacoma. You had a handful of subs. Good to see you have your Tacoma still
I finally got my new tacón on 10-31-2016 and still have mine paid off over a year ago and it’s now worth more than what I paid. Crazy huh
Good to see your doing well on your channel and Tacoma
Be well!
Glad you got your Taco and welcome back! :)
On your new trailer if its new be aware to make as wide of Right hand turns as possible to avoid stressing your frame . I would look for broken frames on youtube channels . If it is not a new trailer I would inspect the frame from 4 ft before and behind the tandem axles . I caught mine before it collapsed . The twisting and scrubbing of the tires can push the cross braces through the web of the I beams or pull the welds through the I beams . Its really poor metal in the Lippert Frames .
Old video, the trailer is history
You shouldn’t make tight turns with torsion or leaving bars, it will do damage!
Yes I was told that at the dealer.
Or back up with it in place.
When you lower the hitch assembly to the receiver ball always have the hitch assembly safety lock in the up position. Once the receiver ball seats into the hitch assembly, lock down the safety lever to level lock position. If the safety lock doesn’t seat to the level lock position, then the hitch ball is not seated correctly. That noise your heard was the receiver ball banging the hitch assembly because it was not seated. I know you know about it now since I have just watched this segment in June of ‘18......
Yea recently we had to move the RV again and had to deal with the same thing. We got it fully seated although it wasn't that easy to do.
Great video, I'm debating on either a tundra or Tacoma I only have a Pop up camper. Seeing what you did I guess a Tacoma will do
Oh yea pop up should be no sweat but make sure you get the towing package option.
That’s way to much trailer for a tacoma, you probably get away on flat land but not hills.
I have heard opinions going both ways and technically it is within the rated tow capacity of the truck, however, I do agree with you that for regular towing it would get old pretty fast. Luckily the trailer will likely never be towed across state lines.
You have to remember a travel trailer is like towing a billboard there is LBS, but the drag is another factor. I own a 2016 taco and a 2010 tundra, I never tow with the taco, with off road tires, the truck seems to barely get out of its own way lol. Good luck, be safe
Dude, your truck is fine and well within the tow rating. Enjoy it and have fun 👍🏻
I pulled our 26' Keystone Bullet with my 2018 Taco TRD Off Road through the mountains Colorado, Washington and Oregon fully loaded no issues except for it drank gas like a drunken sailor
Thanks for the testimonial. From reading the comments some act like the Tacoma is a toy.
Dufisthenics it’s a great little truck especially off-road. I’d put it up against anF150 ecoboost any day of the week
What rpm when climbing mountain?
This makes me feel more confident since what I'm towing is around a thousand pounds less than what you got.
Yea you should be ok.
You're fine I pull a 5500 lb camper with my 17' Tacoma
Hi Matt, Is that 5500 dry? Or do you have it loaded? Just curious as I would like to purchase an RV in the future.
You have 4wheel & manual transmission? Awesome!!!! Got a 2023 tacoma, I ❤ my trk even more, great video😊
2WD/automatic ;)
WOW great torque from, I assume a v6, impressive & auto. Just got my 2023 in lava rock. Made a great choice 😊
@@erickim2025 Yep it isn't bad for a V6!
Just want to verify, your Tacoma is a 2 wheel drive? Also, are all TRD Sport 2x4 trucks have that towing package (6,800 lb max)?
If you live in a flat state, you should be able to tow fine. I guess the test will be when going over passes and go on steep down grades. Anyway happy camping.
Florida is pretty darn flat. :)
Hey Duf! Love this video! Can you give an update on your towing experience with the Tacoma. I have the same truck and planned to buy a 2020 Grand Design Imagine 17 MKE with a dry weight of 4,456 lbs. and a hitch weight of 428 lbs. Thanks for your help!
To be honest I only towed the trailer a few times before we sold it a few months back. Your tow weight is a significantly less, I would expect you to not have any problem. Even with the trailer, the Tacoma handled it ok but it worked HARD at highway speeds.
here is my last tow before I sold it - ruclips.net/video/6Gw02g6C8cc/видео.html
With my german driving license I can tow up to 1653 lbs trailer only, or 7716 lbs combined GCWR. Yeah, there is no 0 missing. My country really sucks that bad.
Wow that does suck.
With a truck that new I would have gotten the tundra. That is max on that taco. Especially when you load that camper up it won't just be dry weight. I have a prerunner taco and love the truck but it sucks pulling a 3,000 lb boat up hills. Good luck
The trailer has been sold :)
Even though you may be under the max tow weight for the Tacoma you still have the payload limit that restricts you. I believe the listed payload on your Tacoma is 1150 pounds which includes people, cargo and TONGUE weight. The tongue weight on trailers are somewhere between 10 and 15 percent of the total weight of the trailer. So if you are towing a 6000 pound trailer you have a tongue weight of 600 to 700 pounds. 1150 minus 700 leaves you with 450. If you weigh 200 and your wife weighs 150 then that only leaves you with 100 pounds of any additional cargo in the cab or in the bed! In the event that you happen to calculate these weights wrong and end up over any of the weight restrictions and you are involved in a fatal accident God forbid, you could be charged with vehicular manslaughter for being negligent driving an over weight vehicle regardless if the accident is your fault or not.
I hear ya. No plans for extensive towing with the vehicle.
@@Duf The hitch you have puts some weight up front. I think you are within limits. Stopping distance is the only issue when I tow with my taco.
Send it go csmping tKo power
If it didn't come with the tow package please tell me you had the auxiliary coolers installed as well.
It has factory tow package which includes auxiliary oil/trans cooler.
Dufisthenics excellent. You should be just fine if you know your limits. I tow a huge (23') boat with mine.
@@ryanskare6670 What was the weight of your boat? I have a 1994 2150 hydra sport and I want to buy a Tacoma but worried it won’t pull or stop the 4500LB beast comfortably.
@@doublew030 at 4500 with a tandem axle and trailer brakes you should be ok. No Overdrive and turn on ETC. Do regular service on your diffs.
I've since moved to a 20 foot boat that comes in at 4200 and it tows with ease.
I purchased a Tacoma TRD 4WD with V6 4.0 engine 9 years ago for $31000, i though the V6 is good enough for me hence the better gas mileage, but how wrong i was, my gas mileage average is 18 mpg, the Tundra is actually about the same with V8, now I'm going to buy a toy hauler with 5790 lb dry weight and my Tacoma can only tow 6500 lb with transmission cooler and towing pkg, towing expert told me not to exceed 80% of the maximum towing weight or the transmission and engine won't last long like Duf mentioned the high rpm cruising speed, the price difference is only $1500 for the Tundra V8 and it can easily tow 8000lb and up, so i might have to trade my Tacoma for a Tundra.
I have heard a lot of people report poor mileage with their Taco's but I have been lucky I guess I normally average 23 MPG+
Interesting... that’s a lot of trailer on the Tacoma! Although it’ll do it I had a 2014 Tacoma with a factory tow package, towed a couple smaller trailers and it really seemed like he trailer could have easily been in charge if things didn’t go well since the truck is so light! Anyways cool video thank you for sharing.
Well that is a big reason that Camping World told me I needed the expensive 10,000 pound rated stabilizing hitch. The Tacoma is certainly no full size truck but it is pretty substantial. Just for reference a Tacoma curb weight is between 4000 and 4500 pounds depending on equipment. A full size Ford F150 is rated at 4050 to 5200 pounds curb weight depending on equipment. So yes there is a difference but it is not huge.
I've seen people pull that weight with a traverse, that toyota could do it even if the trailer was loaded with 4 wheelers. You just wouldn't go very fast without a supercharger
im thinking about looking into a tacoma trd pro, and i have an outback two axle trailer (similar to yours), from my house to pismo is about 2 hours, and im still wondering if i can tow it there for a week and back.
Well the general consensus seems to be it can do it but you are on the bleeding edge of it's capacity. If you want more of a safety margin a full size truck will offer that.
What make and model is you trailer? I'm in the market for a camper and I also drive a 2019 tacoma
Coleman 26RL, I think. We sold it.
Hit that ECT button and just go!
ikr
What is the ETC button for exactly?
Sobbanoodle it makes the transmission shift later and not downshift so extreme at least in my 2000 4cly
You should be towing that trailer in S4. Read your manual again.
Deff should get air bags for the rear that will help the truck out a lot Your deff gonna feel the trailer with pulling hills
I don't know it seemed like the truck didn't sag terribly when the hitch was attached? Yea hills would be a very loud experience.
The weight distribution hitch you have on it takes care of sag. Makes truck and trailer sit level. I would recommend keeping an eye on transmission temps if it has a gauge. Especially if you plan to do long hauls. If you run into issues you may consider additional or upgrading factory transmission cooler.
James Peters: No, it doesn't all the time. depends on truck and how much sag. mine is set up properly and I still have small sag on my 2016 tundra because of the mods I installed. Air bags are a great mod.
With that being said, he has no business pulling a camper of this weight and size with a Tacoma. Too much camper too little truck. He should be pulling this particular camper with no less than a 1/2 ton.
Trade the Tocoma for a Tundra then you will have ZERO issues.
How about a 3,000lb camper? Would you still suggest Tundra over Tacoma? I am undecided.
A 4000 lb trailer would be the max i'd tow with my 2018 Tacoma
If you look at my recent videos you will see I just towed it about 40 miles and arrived in one piece. However I agree, this is too much trailer to tow for extended periods.
You should be able to tow a trailer at 5200 pounds unloaded. With v6 and towing gear package.
The dry weight of that trailer is over 6400 pounds per Colemen's website! Maybe try to stay within the limits of the vehicle with your next trailer.
When we bought it, the listed dry weight was 5800. Maybe they got fatter!!??
@@Duf That could truly be the case.
Looks like widening the gate would be a good future project. :-)
Hehe too much work, we will just need a spotter always. ;)
Add a leaf to your leaf spring, it tow even better
Have not heard that option yet.
Its recommended to only tow up to 70% of weight. Also that rv is like a big sale when going down the interstate. I bet the cross winds would blow that thing all over being towed by that Toyota. Trust me I know. I pull a boat with mine half the weight and more arrow dynamic.
Well the trailer is attached via 10,000 pound stabilizing hitch which should help with possible sway.
If you are camping with 50 miles of home the Toyota will do the job. I would not even consider pulling this trailer across the country with this truck. Looks like you going to have difficulty backing this trailer up back to where you store it. I would consider the F-150 with the auto pilot backing system you can back your trailer up into any tight spot just my turning the dial.
I don't disagree, luckily the trailer was sold.
I have a trailer that I pull with my tacoma roughly the same size as the one in the video. I was skeptical at first but I pulled it pretty easy. Higher RPM and more gas but that’s expected. It feels good knowing the truck begins to pull from a stop as soon as I let go of the brake. I would NOT take this thing in the mountains though.. Just drive it nice and easy.
Yea down hear, flat and slower speeds.
That truck will tow it if the rear end is at least a 3:55 , a 3:73 would be better . I hope your brake controller is a good one or you better get one that scenes the braking speed. You would be so much safer with a 7000 pound 3/4 ton truck with a full floating axle and class E tires .
It has the factory tow option
Didn't even strain. Good truck. Of course, its a toyota Tacoma
Yeah right that truck won’t hit 200k plus towing that weight very often .. it’s stressin....
Actual tow ratings are more realistic at 50-75% factory tow ratings for most all trucks.
You have to think in size, the Tacoma is just about the same size as the older Ford Rangers. I know, I traded my Ford Ranger in for a Toyata Tacoma and while at the dealership my Ranger was parked next to the Tacoma. So asked yourself this. Would you concider pulling something with a Ford Ranger?
I always thought the Tacoma was considerably bigger than a Ranger?
@@Duf it is, I'm not sure what that guy is talking about. Maybe he was thinking about the new Ranger
I have a version of that trailer, the Tacoma will move it and you can probably move it around town but anything long distance the Tacoma isn’t the best choice
I agree and any towing of this trailer will be limited at best.
What brand is ur electrinic brake control?
I'll need to take a look. It was bought from Camping World.
Okay if u have chance let me know
I’m not here to criticize at all. I believe in using skill and towing sense to accomplish things that might be dangerous with a novice. So, bravo there.
But with that said, on most (all) towing vids I see people refer directly to max tow poundage for reference as to what their truck is capable of.
Those max tow ratings are calculated with a certain minimum of frontal area such as a utility trailer hauling bricks or firewood.
Frontal area of a travel trailer calculated in, the max tow rating probably drops 30% at least, before a headwind. A Tacoma will have no trouble with a 16ft utility trailer and a cord or green oak which would be comparable weight to the travel trailer. But the travel trailer is far more taxing on the drivetrain at road speed. And, the heavy utility would have almost no reaction to side winds, whereas the travel trailer tries to take the truck with it.
If you read the comments here they cover both opinions pretty well. Some say it is ridiculous, some say they pull loads as big if not bigger than this and have been fine. The truth is we are currently trying to sell the trailer and there is a chance I may never have to tow it again. ;)
Duf
Yeah they will pull bigger. Auto makers have to figure in operators that may be highly lacking, less than perfect conditions etc. Good vid
nice truck, you didn't say if the price of the hitch included trans. and oil cooler
My truck has the factory tow package already installed which includes the trans and oil cooler.
Definitely do your safety chains up properly next time before going on the open road. Plus I would never consider a 1/4 ton truck as a tow vehicle personally. That trailer will have you whipping all over the road in any sort of cross wind, even with stabilizer bars. Both my dad and my brother each own a Tacoma and neither one of them could stand up to pulling grunt power to my F350. 1/4 ton trucks should stick with tiny boat trailers and tent trailers, leave the travel trailers to at least a 1/2 ton.
I hear you and admit it is less than ideal. However in the very limited, flat, short distance towing I would be doing with the Taco I am fairly confident that I will be fine.
sirkingdra I dont think that the Tacoma is even considered a 1/4 ton truck. I have a Chevy silverado 1500 with a longer wheelbase and bigger engine and I tow my 28 foot travel trailer just fine. That Tacoma is just not enough truck for that camper. Period!
victor urbina I just assumed it was a 1/4 ton, similar to a Ford Ranger or a Chevy S10/Colorado or Dodge Dokota. The Tundra is Toyotas 1/2 ton and the Tacoma is smaller so I figured it'd be considered a 1/4 ton. My dad and brother both own Tacoma's but dad only tows his 14' 300 lbs aluminum fishing boat with his, we leave all the serious grunt power to my 2001 F350 :)
sirkingdra no harm buddy. I've always hear them referred to those model trucks as mid size trucks then you have you 1/2 tons that start the full size pick up range. But hey, call it what you want. As long as you're happy with it towing short distances. But in my honest opinion that tow vehicle is too small for that travel trailer. I would go with a 1/2 ton minimal with the max tow package. You can go with a 3/4 ton but I dont think that's necessary unless you're towing very long distances. If that's the case I would suggest a 3/4 ton diesel.
How much weight is that trailer?
Dry weight of 5800 pounds
@@Duf thank you for the reply. I was thinking of starting a debris hauling business. Of course I would want a bigger truck eventually but for now at least I know the tacoma can pull that
How has your towing experience been over the past months?
I've only towed it around the back yard ;)
4500 rpm is too high. Towing my 28' RV trailer (6400 dry) at 60-62 mph I can keep it in overdrive RPM's around 1750. With the tow-haul in gauged. (2014 Tundra with the 5.7). You will have to play around with it to lower your RPM's. If I try to push it to say 65-67 mpg, yes the RPM's go up to 2200-2300 range, gas mileage goes down.
Well I had it in ECT mode the entire time. Other Tacoma owners have recommended turning ECT off once you are up to highway speed to get the RPMs down.
jay super c
All those noises are normal for that hitch. No worries
Thanks, yea it felt/sounded normal once we got off of rut filled grass. :)
Noway you can see the rear bumper of the camper in your mirrors.
Well I had mirror extensions on my truck.
Should have bought a six speed
Great video except for the annoying circus music that floods out the arleady bad voice audio. Very hard to hear you sometimes and the background video game music doesn't help.
Just a suggestion.
Who doesn't like video games!?? I hear you though and agree.
does the back step not go up any further?
Nope that was all the way up.
Hey what's up man and I trailers nothing for that stuff, my dad had a 2001 Toyota Tacoma a pulled up to 10700 pounds but that truck without the max tow package and once I'm 4000 pounds and the bed like nothing I did not struggle like nothing
10700 with a Tacoma?? Wow I would like to see that video!
I don't have the video man but my dad and I seen it with my dad's truck my dad had I used to have a Tacoma now he has a tundra we love that song, but was too small for him inside but my truck was powerful
Seems like you had a little squat/sag
Back in Africa , I just a Volkswagen Jetta to pull caravans.
Wow
even if you can tow it...that tacoma is too small for the size of that rv...i wouldn't do it...just my opinion...but have fun and stay safe =]
Yes I have heard, repeatedly....
How them tires wearing?
26k on them so far, look great.
No offense. I've pulling campers since 1975. Overkill is AWESOME....No way would I pull that camper with that truck. Pulling is one thing. Stopping when in trouble, is another. I pull a 27 foot Air Stream with a 2500HD.
Next....i have to LOL....Wife's??...I never go pickup my Airstream and back it in our driveway. Unless she isn't around. I can drive in reverse better than most go forward....I'm a basket case when she watches. Because she gets nervous like your wife. But, if you insist on doing it. Get you some walky talkys. And always use Drivers Side and Passenger side as reference. Not left and right....looks like your in Florida. We are in St.Augustine..have fun
You will be happy to know that I never pulled the trailer anywhere with the truck after this, except for back to the dealer to sell it. lol
I liked your video. High rpm's and the noise would get old. My tacoma does the same. It's capable, not practical.
I agree.
It can lull but I wouldn't trust it going fast
I agree.
If you’re going to be pulling that trailer a lot and wanna stick with Toyota, I strongly recommend trading your taco for a Tundra.
I won't be towing it much at all, if I was I would have a full size truck.
I would suggest you not go over 60 miles per hour with that the trailer is too big for that small of a truck
With the stabilizing hitch and electronic brakes it did not feel bad at all to be honest.
RV is just too big for the Tacoma, it might fish tail at high speed.
I do have a stabilizing hitch on the truck to help with that.
Lol you're truck will move almost everything is on tire...they gave u a max towing capacity to avoid that you'll blow a transmission or the engine..but if you won't even be able to move it I'll say something is wrong..
Luckily the Tacoma survives to this day.
@@Duf that's what i mean.... The fact that you move it won't mean anything...pulling it every day will show if you can or not... that's what the tow capacity is..my tow capacity is 4500 lbs .. I've towed 10000 lbs easily...but I won't do it everyday tho Lol
That’s too much trailer for that truck, trade in your truck in for a tundra! Be safe
Take it from a guy who towed a 23' airstream 70K miles around the western US with a 2009 Tacoma, that is way too much trailer. Tacoma brakes suck, fuel range sucks, towing that trailer is not a good idea. My Airstream was 1000 lbs lighter than your trailer, no way I would ever go bigger...
I agree with you.
The most helpful comment yet, I'm going to be pulling a 2500# 7x12 cargo trailer out west and was looking at tacomas. I've yet to see a video where doing 60-65 on the highway didn't seem to tax the motor. I believe I'll look at a tundra instead. Thanks for posting your comment!!!
@@checkingoutgypsymike2075 A Tacoma can pull a 2500 LB trailer with ease, my Airstream weighed twice that much which is why I had all the problems.
Where did you buy they 10,000 hitch?
Camper's World, bought it there and they installed it.
Duf nice. How much did you pay for the RV, Im trying to buy the same one and I saw it new in 15,500 in one place
@@leomarguzman9342 If it was $15500 it was eaither not new or smaller, these currently sell new for $23-$24k
How much the trailer weight?????
5800 pound dry weight
@@Duf and how much is the towing capacity of your Taco?
So the truck can tow 6600 and the trailer is 5600. Put on the hitch you just bought, you, the wife and all of the stuff you are going to put in it and that puts you at maxed or over the weight of your truck. If DOT pulls you over you will not be able to move if the trooper is a ass. Countless other things that aren’t safe but I’m not here to preach.
If you look at the comments you will see people with much different thoughts with several examples of trucks like mine pulling similar loads successfully and repeatedly. Perhaps I wasn't clear enough in the video but any towing of the trailer I do will be limited in distance and few in number.
Dufisthenics I completely understand, will it tow it yes it will. But if it comes down to a legal standpoint DOT will have a issue with it. Just remember that when you do tow it you are rolling the dice legally. I’m not knocking anything you have just be safe. Love the color of the truck also.
So what exactly would the DOT flag me for? If the truck is rated to tow 6600 and the loaded trailer weight is under that, what is the violation? We are aware we are at the top end of the limit and would pack accordingly. For instance during my test tow we made sure all holding tanks were essentially empty.
Dufisthenics the truck is rated for 6600 total tow weight the trailer is 5600, you have to add you, the wife, hitch, personal belongings and other miscellaneous items will put you over that weight rating of your truck. Remember the cost is 1$ a pound overweight from DOT. I weighed just my truck and trailer at a CAT scale then did so while I was on my camping loaded up and everything extra put me 1300lb heavier. Me, Wife, little one, cloths so on and so on. I have the same camper you do but I tow it with a crew cab Ford F-150 eco boost.
No way a trooper is going to know what the max towing capacity is on a non-commercial truck. There's so many pickup trucks on the road and even within the same model, things like two-wheel drive, four-wheel drive, crew cab effect the max tow capacity.
The best a trooper would be able to determine is if the trailer itself is 10,000 lb gross or not. If it's over 10,000 pounds then you need an upgraded driver's license. That's the most that any Troopers going to be able to determine on a non-commercial.