Grandfather suing Sunglass Hut, Macy's following arrest
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- Опубликовано: 21 янв 2024
- FOX 26 Anchor Antony Antoine spoke with the man's lawyer about what happened and why they're suing the companies.
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He really should sue the police and the county as well. They are at fault for putting him with violent offenders.
That's why we need to end qualified immunity.
He was arrested for a violent robbery.
YES
It is unfortunate, but due to the nature of the crime he was accused of the police likely followed standard protocol as far as where he was housed. Where they failed was likely in ensuring the safety of people under their authority and protection.
But for what it is worth, the guy is getting his money. And moving forward, you can pretty much assure that Sunglass Hut is just going to stop trying to play police. They are going to hand the video over to the police and that is it. Odds the manager of the store was angry and embarrassed and wanted to get revenge. And his act of retaliation caused a innocent man to get hurt in the process. And yes, you can pretty much rest assure all the employees of said Sunglass Hut are listed in the suit.
@@pvpat92They were supposed to take his age into account and SEGREGATE him. The same things happens to pedophiles who also separated from the general population. Whole thing is messed up
ONLY $10 MILLION? If it were me, I would be suing for EVERYTHING they got. They ruined this man’s life.
sue them into bankruptcy
Women get raped everyday, who do they get to sue, kids get molested all the time who do they get to sue? This sue everyone and sue for everything
It's like what trial attorney Gerry Spence used to say at the end of his closing arguments: "Money cannot fix what the defendant did to the plaintiff but money is all the defendant has, so give me all they have."
@@roy19491and doing that would put a lot of innocent employees out of work.
Agreed 10million is too little . Since there’s two big companies, would’ve wanted atleast 50 from both
The county had a duty to care for and protect him while he was in jail. They should be sued too!
He should have never been in jail in the first place. He had a rock solid alibi.
This is a violation of his civil rights.
@@strat1080 Real Talk!
Something sounds funny about that story. No matter what people think about jail and prison, you don't just get raped. That happens for a reason in there. The guy shouldn't have been in jail no matter what, but that story seems sus.
@@nerdjournal Expert on jail huh... How many years did you do?
The guards should be charged
Absolutely nuts. He should sue all parties for a total of $300 million.
..lol how did you come up with that random number. All those dollars will not heal him.
@@user-yz8ms5uy3cplease shut up
@@user-yz8ms5uy3cyeah hes done for mentally but if he has children he can at least have them live well for his sacrifice
@@user-yz8ms5uy3c it'll teach them a lesson though
$376 million
The fact that a warrant was issued based on facial recognition software used by a private company and no investigation was done by the police or prosecutors office before requesting a warrant is outrageous. What’s more disturbing is that a judge signed the warrant with such flimsy evidence. The jail should be held responsible for what happened to him while in their custody. Edit to add that eyewitness identification is notoriously inaccurate so that should not be sufficient probable cause for a warrant.
Bad ass beard 👍🏽
messed up it's already been proven that facial recognition technology doesn't Accurately Identify people with dark skin pigment Not the 1st time facial recognition Pegged the wrong black man as a suspect
messed up it's already been proven that facial recognition technology doesn't Accurately Identify people with dark skin pigment Not the 1st time facial recognition Pegged the wrong black man as a suspect
messed up it's already been proven that facial recognition technology doesn't Accurately Identify people with dark skin pigment Not the 1st time facial recognition Pegged a innocent black man as the suspect
messed up it's already been proven that facial recognition technology doesn't Accurately Identify people with dark skin pigment Not the 1st time facial recognition Pegged the wrong black man as a suspect
You'll arrest an innocent old man but let the thugs who rob stores clean in groups go free? What a failure of our legal system
What thugs went free after being arrested? Link or quit spreading damn disinformation.
He was arrested as a suspect in an armed robbery and now you are crying about letting thugs go free. Make up your mind. And liberalism would tend to give you a legal system that reduced jail house rapes while MAGAism cheers for jail house rapes while at the same time being okay with letting a guy with 91 felony indictments walk free.@@electricman523
@@electricman523your retarded the left wants to reform police and criminal justice systems it’s the right wing that backs the blue and give police unlimited money and power
Two words for you: joe biden 💩
Sick times 😢
When you are arrested, the government takes custody of you and is responsible for your security. I hope he gets millions.
What world are you living in?
@@MysticWolf1223Homie is just trying to get post-rape checks lol
@@GeneralRamm910 As he should be.
@gaoxiaen1 My point being that it probably never fucking happened.
@@GeneralRamm910 Then you don't have a point. Other than the one on your head.
The raping culturing in jail needs to be handled. Heard of this 23 year old that was raped to death the day before he was released. Happened a few months ago
oh hell no, i would be on a mission after that.
Wtf?
Exactly. I had a young boy go to jail and came back a broken being. A year ago. The same dudes committing these SA claim they aren’t gay but love gay activities.
I can't breev crowd like it
@@Tsar-Tyco-Nova-Von-Taco-Cat says the dude that can suck D and post at the same time.😛
The fact that private companies are using and acting like justice systems is a HUGE concerning issue.
Extremely concerning
All red light cameras are like this tickets mailed by them .
Robocop, Omni Consumer Products (OCP) takes control of Detroit Security, ED209 . . . mistakes were made . . coming to a future near you
In a lot of sectors, including communications. You now have to pay money and join a "service" to communicate with anyone behind bars, holdover or actual jail, in a lot of states. The "service" usually sucks, and acts as a hinderance to be bonded, or let go, which helps these privately funded "justice systems" bottom line.
@@painkillerjones6232 yep, inmates will beat you azz to get your "pin" if they've had theirs revoked. Also, often you will find that the company that provides the service is financially connected to a politician.
How is nobody from law-enforcement not responsible for his beatings and rape?
"Qualified Immunity."
He lawyer or someone convinced him of that..I hope that not what he believes..
Cops are toddlers that refuse all culpability for anything they do.
Because they aren't responsible for anything, because they're not here to protect us or keep the peace. They're here to abuse working class people on behalf of corporations.
How is he only suing for 10 mil, when someone who wasn"t even raped got 83 mil from president Trump
I just added 2 businesses to my never patronize list. There is so much wrong with this interaction.
For. Real. Macy's usually has discounts on the brands of clothing I like but I'll gladly pay full retail price elsewhere. Never shopped at Sunglass Hut anyway but won't now.
Then where are we gonna get Trump's oversized Chinese ties anymore? 🤔😭
Use-tor-to-research-handheld-emp weapons. 😇
Never heard of that sunglasses place. And I thought Macys was just a store people walk through to enter the mall 😂
Im never shopping at Macys again, ever.
Since when are computer programs allowed to issue warrants for people?
I'll never purchase from either of those corporations.
Sue the police also for not keeping a prisoner safe.
Unfortunately, the charges can most likely be pressed against the perpetrators. This being that the police actually did their protocols and put him in a wing of the most violent offenders based on the nature of the robbery that occurred. I do hope he is able to heal, but the courts will just give immunity for that part and new charges will be added to the offenders records and length of stay, if they haven't been already.
@@kadraeallday5582 How do we know that the guards weren't in on it?
@@GreenVibezIguanaDaddylol ok ya there all in on it haha.
The sheriff's department is usually in charge of operating the jails, so he'd have to sue the county.
@@user-lb1qn2hd4i people have a responsibility to not choose a life of crime and get themselves locked up in prison
What kind of a corrupt judge would sign an arrest warrant based entirely on some 3rd party facial recognition claim?
I think it was corroborated (falsely) by an employee.
The hell was he using..pimeyes? lol that thing is one of the examples that sucks at finding black and chinese people..
I'm sure that the massively corrupt Texas GOP is going to get right on top of doing something about this.
Many of them
oh jesus fucking christ on a toast, did you not fucking pay attention? The allegations were made against him, the company prepped the employee to say that it was the victim and it wasnt until AFTER he was in custody that he gave out his alibi and eventually released.Such a fucking retard
This is the most messed absurd & obnoxious case I have ever heard!! That poor grandpa!!! What a messed up world we lived in.
Not the world but America.
This made me cry.
Who rapes a 60 year old man? The reliance on A.I. technology is sickening and downright dumb. This story is saddening on multiple levels.
gay men
Cause human are so much better…../s
That's the kinda stuff that happens in a hate factory i.e. prison. It's the closest place to hell on earth
There is Something Deranged about a Individual who has a hard on to shove into a Limp body of a older Man 👴.
It's depraved!
I will never shop at Sunglass Hut or Macy's again after hearing this.
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Sunglass Hut is owned by EssilorLuxottia. They own about half of the retail optical industry including LensCrafters and Pearl Vision.
They also own Eyemed insurance which is the largest vision insurance in the USA.
They also manufacture the frames and lenses that most of the industry uses. They have patents on things like "Transition" lenses. All the "high end" frames like Prada, Versace, Ray-Ban, etc... are manufactured by them
Oh, and they make the machines that are used by other companies to manufacture their own glasses.
They have major ownership of just about every aspect of the optical industry at this point.
@@kfox420I’m edging SO hard rn
you can google the company and find all their brands underneath them
Glad I never shopped at either one of these to boot!
That poor man. I'm glad he came forward to tell this story.
The authorities are just as responsible.
😢 poor man! Nothing is going to restore his mental health. He should sue not only Macy’s, the mall, the face recognition software company and police
THe problem is Conservatives get their sexual kicks thinking this happens routinely in jails and ALLOW it continue saying everyone there deserves it, empowering the most sadistic of our society. (can you think of any sadistic Conservatives?) To offer the thought that gee, maybe people ought to be safe in jails and prisons is being "soft on crime." I hope he was Conservative. Because you see, if he had just been safe, while unpleasant, could have been cleared up without incident.
Get off yer high horse, doofus. Conservatives didn't invent the faulty AI. But I can think of PLENTY of sadistic Democrats.
@@cstuartdc that's a dark place to be mentally, to think of fellow humans that way, "deserving" based on perceived political affiliations. All that hate in your heart will eat away at you over time.
@@cstuartdcwhen people like me advocate for safer prisons and protecting inmates. We are laughed away saying people locked up get what they deserve. Like it's a joke to be SA'd even if you ARE rightfully in jail for assault or something. This is why I advocate for prison reform!
@@cstuartdcwhat does this have to do with conservatives you twat. Democrats jail more people than conservatives.
Just 10 million? Rape damages alone…is way more than that. I would separately sue the jail for lack of protection for the assault and rape responsibility. There should be no contact among prisoners who are violent offenders…EVER!
You have the number for what rape costs? What’s the value of rape?
I'm not sure where you've been, but robbery is considered a violent offense. Also, jails are only responsible for assaults if there was reason to believe that something would have happened to the alleged victim if placed with other violent offenders. For the record, I don't believe for a second that this man was raped, but he knows that people like you will believe it and he's banking on this as being his lottery moment.
@@BarrackObamna Ask E. Jean Carroll.
@@HeartsOfDarkness you understand the ruling was for harassment and the suit was conveniently filed shortly after the statute of limitations was up for criminal trial, meaning she couldn’t be charged for falsifying testimony in a criminal trial
@@BarrackObamna Realized it for what it was on day one.
Trump Derangement Syndrome runs strong within the legal system.
Rape in prison needs to stop.
This is such a f****d up case. I hope he sues the hell out of them. So sorry you had to go through this dear
He has an alibi and yet cops went by Macy's facial recognition bs 😠 😡
Everyone knows cops arent smart. They sign up to enforce law and don't even bother to study it.
It might shock you but people lie.
@@sharinglungs3226
Having an alibi means his alibi checks out
@IAMYOU-. The cops let him go after the ailibi checked out. He was assaulted before they could let him go. If Macy's and Sunglasses Hut had not coached their employee to identify the man and actually been thorough and double-checked, he would not have been arrested. Macy's and Sunglasses Hut brought this on themselves. That's why they're being sued instead of the police.
Major fail
Using facial AI alone to arrest is absolutely insane.
yep...twins exist ffs are they gonna arrest both of them its crazy
@@ryanmullett8832as the lawyer said, they have a high error rate with black people and apparently age gaps too. So at least if it was your twin that did it, the recognition would be justified in saying it's the same person. Even a human would do that unless they do you had a twin. Then you and or your twin would still be suspects.
fruit of illuminati labor
@@hillsane9262 In other words, they all look alike, even to a computer! LOL
@@user-fz6qv4ve8v They are programmed by others. white people with their bias. I think black people don't have such problems.
That poor man. How horrific. There needs to be proper accountability for prisons for protecting inmates.
That's terrible. Innocent people being jailed while actual criminals keep getting away with everything.
I get treated like a criminal by the healthcare system every day and once I went to the ER for a medical issue, not only did the doctors fail me, but the security handcuffed me and threw me out of the hospital just for seeking medical treatment. Also, many doctors threatened to call the cops on me if I asked for comprehensive treatment. 😢😢 They have caused me serious ailments. 😢
Sue the cops for jailing him based on this BS, and the sheriff/jail for allowing him to be beaten and raped there. That should NEVER happen.
They like that it happens. They think it’s funny. Especially if it happens to black men because they hate them.
The police had reasonable cause for arresting him. It was the people at the store who falsely accused him
Yall just want to blame the cops for anything. They followed the law and their protocol. The companies who falsely accused him are 100% at fault. Besides I’d rather a huge company like macys pay him out than our tax dollars
@@LopezCreations he was assaulted in police custody goofball
Custody usually implies responsibility
He is a Senior citizen, the "law" did false imprisonment, put him in harm ways, at his age, the police has the duty and vital responsibility to protect him. They failed miserably!!
The thing is that the police are not responsible for protecting innocent people. They are there to apprehend lawbreakers. That’s why if you get shot somewhere, you can’t sue the police for not protecting you. This is why the right to own a gun is so important.
@@alstroemeria227again4 Except this happened in police custody when the man had no options to protect himself. We have become way too complacent in accepting that rape, beatings, and murder happen in jail and prison just because we don't like the kind of people who are locked up. But the fact is there should be a standard of care for prisoners in law enforcement. And this should include protection from violence and sexual assault. These officers charged with monitoring prisoners need to be held responsible. If the prisons and jails do not hire enough guards hold the entire organization responsible. This culture of rape is acceptable for prisoners needs to end.
@@alstroemeria227again4 They are when you're in jail.
What if AI made this whole story up?
@@krane15they are required to protect you in jail yes. This man does qualify as a senior Citizen in jail though. 61 is general population.
That took a very dark turn 😮
OH man they can't even even begin to award this man enough. MY SUIT WOULD BEGIN AT $50 MILLION. TO HELL WITH 10 MILLION
This is an Absolute nightmare, imagine being a law abiding Innocent Grandpa. And this happen .. This needs to go viral..
To serve and protect....yeah right!
Ummmm No one is raping you in actual jail( Not to be confused with prison). 98% of people in there are usually given out within a few days or a couple of years.
Of course he was if a particular race where do they get this facial recognition from? That’s why I don’t like having my face recognized on my cell phone I think they should have your permission to have your likeness out there poor guy I really feel for him.😢
yeah until they find out that the law abiding innocent old grandpa was lying about being raped
What about the wildly malicious incompetence of the police that allowed sexual assaults to take place in their jail?!?
That's corrections officers not police
@@smokingbeetles5793 It's a jail, not a prison. It's almost certainly run by the country sheriff and staffed by sheriff's deputies. But none of that matters.
What matters is the depraved, inhumane conditions of HOLDING CELLS. Our society is falling apart and you're here quibbling over which part of the massively bloated, incompetent, corrupt government is responsible for sexual assaults in holding cells, totally ignoring the context of the WRONGFUL ARREST that directly led to this AND, apparently, the judge that signed off on the warrant. This was a complete failure of law enforcement, from top to bottom.
Allowed 😂 you think they babysit you in jail. Those correction officers don't give a flying f what happens to you. Stay out of jail and most importantly don't shop at the sun glasses hut !
@@neongracegross. They are supposed to be protecting and rehabilitated. You laughing at this is fucking disgusting. Especially as a white woman. And this man was innocent and couldn't "stay out of jail." You are fucking weird.
Police put him in jail before they checked his alibi.@@smokingbeetles5793
That's terrible! God, please let this man receive true justice.
Wow what a nightmare.
Sexual assault taken as a given for being incarcerated as a man is a huge issue that needs to be addressed ASAP
Or just make it equal 🤷
@@byMRTNjournals what do you mean?
@@byMRTNjournalsyou don't make sense!!!
and then these dirty leg booty bandits have the audacity to claim they ain't gay...
@@wanderingwolfstudio1581 no I’m not. The expectation for men to be sexually assaulted while they are in custody of the state for rehabilitation is not okay. Sweet profile photo 🤣🤣🤣
I feel so bad for this man. He needs to sue for 100 million dollars. I hope he is getting counseling to help him deal with what he had to go through. Praying for him.
900 Million, Bankrupt everyone involved and jail many others.
And yet, when people like me advocate for safer prisons and protecting inmates. We are laughed away saying people locked up get what they deserve. Like it's a joke to be SA'd even if you ARE rightfully in jail for assault or something. This is why I advocate for prison reform!
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Once I witnessed these two guys Bantering each other back in forth until it Got Heated up. The Short STOCKY guy With Dreads who played with the MAX wieght on the machine like it was a TOY offered to Continue the Conversation up in His Cell. Then he Proceeded to Pull out a cheese 🧀 squeeze pack from his Pocket talking about he was "gonna MELT the Cheese In his axx." After KNOCKS his Bih Axx Out as he waved It In his Face. I Honestly BUSTED out Laughing 😅 From How he Delivered it n Because I Knew he Had the MEANS to Do so. Jail Ain't Fun, Fxck That All the Way Trust Me...
This happens all the times, while living in a Apartheid nation.
Minority Report was not just a movie but also a prophecy
10M is not enough, that’s first. But so sorry this man had to go through this.
Being awarded millions will not be payment enough for the psychological and physical torment that he has endured.
MILLIONS, NO YOU’RE RIGHT. BUT THIS SHOULD BE THE FIRST BILLION DOLLAR LAWSUIT EVER, ONE THAT BANKRUPT THE ENTIRE COMPANY.
@@tyriciankelly9185honestly that would be the closest thing to making this right. unfortunately, it's the farthest thing from reality.
@@tyriciankelly9185 This isn't on the companies, it's on the state. The companies didn't arrest him and put him in with violent criminals that raped him.
@@landor7610 WTF??! THE COMPANY IS THE ONE THAT USED THE FAULTY FACE RECOGNITION SOFTWARE . SO IF YOU GET HIT BY A PUBLIC BUS, WHO ARE SUING THE BUS, THE COMPANY OR THE DRIVER? BECAUSE THE BUS ABSOLUTELY DID NOT DRIVE ITSELF & THE BUS DRIVER PROBABLY DOESN’T HAVE THE FUNDS. SO YOU WOULD SUE THE COMPANY THAT OWNS THE BUS. & FYI🤔 HE IS SUING MACY’S, &SUNGLASS HUT. HOPEFULLY THE LAWSUIT WILL GO FURTHER TO INCLUDE THE CREATOR OF SOFTWARE AND WHOEVER APPROVED THE SOFTWARE. MORE IMPORTANTLY, THIS IS A DANGER TO LAW-ABIDING CITIZENS ALL OVER THE WORLD. EVERY PERSON HAS A LOOK-A-LIKE.
ERASING MY PREVIOUS COMMENTS DOES NOT MEAN THE STORES SHOULDN’T BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE.
The intentional lack of caution and safety by the employee's of HPD and the employee's of the jail where the rape occurred is enough to justify suing. This man deserves more than $10 Million, IMO.
I was thinking $500 million, but that would be my lowball estimate.
I was thinking the same thing honestly. But to be fair, pain and suffering is generally 3X the medical expenses. And as bad as this is, he isn't going to see $2 million in medical bills. His lawyer set a number he thought both stores would agree to just to keep it out of court. And he probably guest right. But that lawyer's take is probably 30% so $3 million.
@@superdave8248 Except that the assault can result in PTSD and cause the victim to be unable to work a full-time job ever again.
The companies aint nothing, being raped in prison should be huge and NEEDS to be the primary investigation... which i why he probably hasn't sued the PD yet.
@@magician2020 ...and I was thinking $0
Never walking into a Macy’s nor Sunglass Hut ever again!
Who issued the warrant? They should be listed on the lawsuit!
Why is he not also suing the police department ?
They will blame it on the software system or the company that oversees it 😊
@@gomerhanger2285 He should have been put in a holding cell and not in with violent criminals. The decision is on the jail.
@@gomerhanger2285 Yep that's what them p1g 4uckers are always going to BLAME something or just say "I was just following orders..." YO the same rhetoric them GESTAPO Nazis said as well right before they were executed.
Why isn't he suing the AA people that committed the robbery in the first place?
He needs a new lawyer $ 10 million that’s it! He needs to sue Houston PD for negligence! Had the guards did their job he would’ve never been assaulted. Sounds like the poor man was setup by police officers in jail to be assaulted. Sad situation I hope he is able to find some sort of peace through this hell of an ordeal.
This should make national news. I can't imagine going from regular citizen to violent criminal based on a computer program.
Of course only Fox would report on it, because they actually care about privacy against facial recognition and have an anti-ai bias.
If it happened to a woman or child: then yes it matters and should be publicized. However when men suffer its best if the world looks the other way. Remember this and life will get better.
Typical Texas bullshit
They have the worst police in the country
@DxBlack local news stations aren't the same as "Fox news"
But I wouldn't expect someone like you to know the difference.....
@@DxBlack fox doesn’t truly care about what happens as long as anything happens. They report news not explicitly create news worthy events. If your grandfather in a wheelchair beheaded you over cold soup they would be on top of that story because it pays the bills not necessarily because they give a rats ass about your death.
Thanks for this story
Good lawyers and team for getting all that work done.
At his age, he should have never been in population with violent felons. He would be in his right to sue HPD and the County facility where he was assaulted.
Administrative Segregation in Jail/Prison doesn't go by age (unless they're minors). However, those who attack elder inmates who served decades inside, can realize their mistake sooner than later.
You can bet the medical exam he refused would not have shown any evidence! LOL time to ban all eye witnesses they are worse than the tech! LOL
I would sue the police also because his alibi checked out. He should have been released immediately.
@@BlimpCityFeeder
Larn the law!
When a person is in custody, the prison/guards are legally responsible for that person's well-being and that includes segregation to protect an older man that has not been convicted of the crime.
Look it up.
Great point
My buddy was charged with kidnapping and burglary based on faulty eyewitness testimony before he was released from jail after all charged were dropped when they processed fingerprint evidence from the scene 5 months later. He was never the same after 5 months in a violent jail and it changed my entire worldview. The worst part was everyone telling me that if he was in jail for the crime, he must have done it- none of those people changed their way of thinking or apologized or admitted they were wrong once he was released.
@@jeffreya8329 I find it interesting how society deems it okay to joke about sexual assault as long as male prisoners are the butt of the joke
@@Gabriel-ks6rkQuit yapping.
My girlfriend fucked me over a long time ago. I got locked up. Now my family treats me like dirt
@@Gabriel-ks6rk Not this type bub. And for all those that think its a joke, karma is real.
@@joelglanton6531I never joke about anyone’s rape, whether male or female.
Damn that story got Crazy quick!
Why isn’t no one being arrested?
Oh my God. No amount of money can give this man what he deserves. My prayers are with this man and his family
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I agree, Jesus give him strength, I can’t even imagine going through what he did.
Oh my God, it probably didn't even happen! He is just trying to cash in.
So what makes you say that?@@user-fz6qv4ve8v
That part right there. SMH
Life in prison for anyone who allowed this event to happen. Including judge, lawyers, ai program people etc.
I support this comment!
We need strong change!
The guys that made the AI recognition software didn't do anything wrong. This software is extremely useful and they weren't the ones that arrested the guy. The police are at fault. The stores are at fault.
@@marudoethiopia I agree, I'll give the developers the benefit of the doubt and say I find it unlikely that they created a AI-driven facial recognition program with the intention of wrongfully imprisoning anyone it deems a match.
I'll even go out on a limb and say they probably even tried to warn that facial recognition is not 100% accurate and the program was/is still very experimental (which should be obvious to most people with enough knowledge on the subject).
But I think despite this someone pulled rank and gave the ill-advised order to, "Use it anyway" because dammit they don't care about the potential harm it can cause, their superiors want results and they themselves want that promotion, but they'd rather rely on AI do the work for them rather than do any actual police work. Whoever that was, they should face some prison time.
I think the police department should be held accountable also they held him even after him providing where he was at the time of the crime
Hell nah. Sue the county, the state, sue federally, sue sunglasses hut, sue Macy’s, and sue the company that designed the facial recognition software.
10 million is nowhere near enough.
This man needs $500,000,000. Those companies, and police department, and county, need to feel that loss.
More like way too much. The wrongful arrest was bad, but the perpetrators who followed him to bathroom are the ones really ought to pay. As for the wrongful arrest, I would demand the faulty system be ousted instead of money.
@@fdwrForbid you end up in this same situation and see if you’d feel the same. Everyone from Law Enforcement to the store down to these funky inmates are at fault. But it started with the store. 10 million isn’t high enough.
@@ms.lalady I would feel violated and angry at the people who followed me into the bathroom, and I'd feel annoyed at the wrongful arrest too, but I certainly wouldn't think that somehow me personally receiving enough to buy 5 houses would help me feel any better about what happened. Only justice applied to the perpetrators and fixing the wrongfully identifying facial system would make me feel better, so that hopefully this happens to nobody else in the future.
@@fdwr Seeing how no arrests will come to Law Enforcement or employees of the store. The only course of justice is through their pockets. Hence corporations getting sued for millions and sometimes going into bankruptcy. You sound more jealous than anything, talking about homes that potentially could be purchased. This isn’t about you. The victim is seeking 10 million, and it isn’t enough for these companies, agencies to feel their wrongdoing.
The employee that pointed the finger,needs to be spent to prison
Well they did say that he.was prepped to testify against him. Like why would someone that was present for the likes, need to be prepped by someone that wasn't.
Thomas Haynesworth spent 27 years in prison based upon 5 victim positive identifications. The real attacker was 5'10 compared to Thomas being 5'6. All because 5 white women could not distinguish differences in black people. My whole point being, that eyewitness testimony is very flawed. It is likely that the employees made the same mistake.
How about the judge, he needs to go to.
Since when did corporations become the Justice system? This is terrifying.
There needs to be some accountability for the police who just take the word of these high school dropouts who work at Macys and Sunglass hut. They can’t be bothered to actually do any investigation so they just outsource to some idiots behind the counter at the mall. It’s absolutely disgraceful. Don’t let these cops off the hook.
I will tell my son to stay away from these stores.
Luxottica is the parent company. They have a lot of stores
Exactly they should be boycotted as they are playing with peoples lives!
He didn't even go in the store tho, he was in another state.
What does Macy’s have that anyone really needs?
I hope this lawsuit doesn't drag out for an unreasonable amount of time. I hope that poor man gets financial compensation as soon as possible from all parties that caused his false arrest.
realistically, legal battle will take 10 years and the payments will be deferred for another 30. They'll hold out as long as they possibly can.
@@Shteven I can see it if the victim is old and expected not to live much longer. So they will delay the hearing. But unless he is in 90s they are better off settling. Because the counter is to keep introducing this story to the news and social media. Neither of which these two companies will want.
First of all you have to prove that everything he claimed happened, actually did happen. You cannot go with what the news tells you these days.
@@user-fz6qv4ve8v Well, He WAS arrested, He WAS Raped, he WAS released. These are all public record facts.
He should sue Macy's for every penny of their assets! He should own that company!
Qualified immunity is why the police and county won't get sued
WAIT when did we give businesses permission to record our faces and upload them to their databases?!?
This could happen to anyone - AI is not reliable and definitely should not be used as a way to imprison people. This is so scary and the way his rights and person were violated is sickening.
Well AI only contributed, there was an eyewitness who ID'd him (though mistakenly). So if you are the investigating detective you would have a choice of either releasing him until you could prove his alibi was false and in so doing possibly releasing a violent criminal back into society (where you might not be able to find him again or he goes out and commits more crimes) or you can detain him in jail for the amount of time it would take to, once again prove out his alibi. Which in this case they did the latter and released him the following morning as soon as the alibi was proven true.
I hope people understand that if you use AI for video upscaling, it ruins the data. I was offering this is a service for a while, and most of the people trying to use it are submitting grainy security camera footage. It’s creating a new image based on estimating what is in the missing space. It can be wrong.
@@user-fz6qv4ve8v If you were the investigating detective, you would actually investigate if the suspect was there or not before making any arrest. They arrested him first, then investigated, then still held him in jail.
no it would only happen to a black man
Except AI had nothing to do with this at all. Sadly, you are very confused regarding AI Technology.
Remember the guy in Colorado who was arrested for bank robbery all because the software messed up? These facial recognition systems are broken and should not allow an arrest or warrant to be issued. A human should have to investigate and verify everything way before any of that happens. I mean they will allow someone suspected of murder to be interviewed first before they arrest them, but not an old man who is suspected of robbing a store?
What you described is called "human in the loop", and it's a standard in many industries all over the world. Yet for some reason it's not standard in the US for facial recognition.
Also FR is not "broken" as you say. If it was, we'd be heading these stories daily, which we don't. No system is perfect and we're seeing those edge cases. But org policies (like human in the loop) are meant to smooth out those edge cases.
Additionally, the things the lawyer says about how FR doesn't work properly is incorrect. I know which study he's referring to (the ACLU's "test" of Amazon's Rekognition software), and the test was a farce. It was conducted in a way to deliberately generate bad results.
@@ceebee GUY WASN'T EVEN IN THE STATE WHEN IT HAPPENED!!! You're right though it's not broken 🙄 . And just because these stories don't show up on your feed doesn't mean it hasn't happened before. I guarantee you will change your mind when it happens to you though
No system or technique should be used for legal purposes until it has passed an independent evaluation for accuracy. Courts or companies should have to justify the use of such things by showing they have a certificate from an approved agency to use it. Test for false positives, false negatives, etc.
@@ceebee FR is definitely broken if it caused an innocent victim harm
But this is a world of people making their quotas and advancing their careers. Performing due diligence gets in the way and has a negative affect on arrest quotas.
Its pathetic how easily they trust software like that without using logic.
What a horrific experience ‼️🤬
I'm absolutely HORRIFIED for this poor man! He deserves MORE than that for what they've done to him!
At 60 years old, this law abiding citizen had to be subjected to this. He's probably gearing up for retirement in a few years. Now he has this traumatic experience of being wrongly accused, placed in custody, then raped. What the duck is wrong with this world???
They need to sue the police too for not protecting him while in custody.
they never do, the boys trump helped be wrongfully accused/convicted of gang reape were put into adult jails and were repetedly raped for years.
Yeah, it's just nearly impossible to ever win against them. They can just say they have immunity and that usually is enough. :(
The public relies on criminals to punish criminals
they will just investigate themselves and find no wrong doing. like they always do. majority of police departments are full of dirty and corrupted cops
good, then the officer who was charged with George Floyd's death should get a big pay day then, right?
And got abused in prison also? Sunglass Hut does not have enough money to undo what has happen to that man.
God bless you all
I hope this man wins so many millions bc to have your dignity permanently taken is unforgivable
Yes,Sunglass Hut and Macy’s are at fault,but the main culprit is the company that designed and sold the facial identity software that seems to think that all black people look the same. He should be suing them as well.
I saw a video last year of a white lady who was prevented from entering a store as it identified her as a wanted person - who was black. Like seriously, they've got a long way to go before that can be trusted.
It’s bad enough people confuse others. AI is not any better
Shows it is not reliable. Violates rights. This man was violated in so many ways. Horrible.
That's correct on one part. The second part is the Jailhouse Warden/Guards that don't 'get paid enough' to do the job they signed up for, as well. NO EXCUSES FOR THOSE IN CHARGE/POWER - hold the jails/prisons accountable for the crimes that happen, under their noses. CHECKS and BALANCES - sometimes , people need to be seen, in person, for them to get the CHECK, in order to be balanced.
He is black?
Whoever is the person who made the critical decision should be arrested and imprisoned, and fined.
I’m never leaving the house again.
What the hell…He wasn’t even in the state! This is scary and could potentially happen to more people.
It already probably has!
When there's an issue the system covers up rather than fixes it, they'll spend millions to hide it rather than admit any fault. Anyone interested in the jaws of blind gov look up LouissRossman and his escapades with getting sued for taxes in NY AFTER he moved to Texas.
I'd bet money it already has. Many stay silent and if we are hearing this you can be sure it's happened to many others.
This is heartbreaking. I can’t imagine my dad, also a grandfather, being subjected to this experience. I hope the gentleman bankrupts all parties involved and the officers who knew he was innocent and left him in with violent offenders. How do they expect a senior to defend himself?
This is sad… justice system is so messed up
He's not going to bankrupt Macys, but he certainly need to include the police.
Harris County Officers and staff at county jail downtown are heartless and in my opinion lazy and corrupt ! They do not care for anyone’s human rights much less an innocent elderly person, sad and disgusting!
Nobody is going to be bankrupt. He is 61. A senior citizen is usually 67 or older. He is not even old enough to apply for Social Security. Quit making him into something that he isn't.
@@HK00088 the justice system is fine...its the inmate that are messed up
This is not justice. Praying for this man and his family
Using A.I. recognition isn't a camera🤦🏽 and they thought it was absolute, that's completely horrific and an innocent man is raped from their incompetence.
He better add the police department and the judge who signed the warrant based on something that would likely never hold up in court, to his lawsuit!! Not only should he be suing for false arrest but also for the assault he endured while he was falsely imprisoned! This is despicable!
Qualified Immunity means the judge and police officers will never be held liable.
@@MrMagnanimanThey possibly won’t, however the taxpayers pockets will $$ and also personally liable could mean removed from the bench or fired from the department. Sometimes it’s not all about the money and most cities and states would rather fire them than get a lawsuit. 🤷🏾
@@BlakWiseCracker There's no "possibly" about it. The lawsuit is against Macy's.
Although, now that I think about it, they might be looking for a declaration of fault in this case before going after the law enforcement. In any case, that will certainly be at the tax payers' expense. There's zero chance any of the law enforcement will be held personally liable.
They will not be added because of Qualified Immunity...it was not a false arrest...it was a legit arrest made upon the AI and an eye witness identification. You know nothing about what you are writing about.
Do you realize how dumb you sound?
Sunglass Hut sucks. My manager claimed I took money on a day that I was off. I had an emergency and my appendix needed to be removed that day. Police came to see me in the hospital while I was recovering and asleep. I awoke to my mom yelling/asking them, “Could you be any more stupid? Does he look like he’s in any condition to be working let alone steal something?” After a week or so I was offered my job back by a higher up (district manager, perhaps?). It was the most satisfying, “Oh heck no!” that I’d ever uttered!
Please tell me you sued those f,;:"'z?
Should have sued them
Dude you should have gotten a lawyer and sued for wrongful termination regardless of if it's a right to work state.
I quit that company after 2 shifts
You should have sued the pants off of them! I'm glad you declined the offer to go back because if they abused you like this once, they would definitely do it again! Go work somewhere where you will be seen for being an honest worker, not a thief based on assumptions!
I work for a casino.
We use facial recognition to look for people who are accused of a crime but left before the crime was reported.
Security still has to speak to the person and confirm they have the right person before the cops are called because facial recognition has made obvious mistakes. Probably the worst was identifying a 3 month old as a robbery suspect.
That baby 100% did that robbery 😂
that guys lying. nobody raped a 61 yo man in a jail. not a prison a jail where there is literally no area that is private.
We are so desensitized to the notion that cops willfully place people in harms way
they are the biggest criminals
Well-said
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@@user-mv8uv4xo5e 🤡
No. These cops negligently put this man in a harmful situation. You say we're desensitized. But you have these people who know, if they mess up on any level, they still have a job. They cut corners for a quick conviction.
Poor man. Needs his justice.
Yes 💛
This is so messed up
Ouch!
The victims should consult his attorney and consider also bringing litigation against the jail in which he was wrongfully incarcerated at which later resulted in him being attacked and sexually assaulted and that is unacceptable they should be held accountable as well
He has an attorney and will have already discussed that. The attorney has probably figured that they couldn’t win that one.
Or he’s working with them and sinking to the guy by saying you can win plenty of money from the companies
@@jlopez1632🤡
He already has an attorney. Where do you think he came up with the fictitious rape story? Guarantee you there was no mention of rape until AFTER he saw an attorney.
@@michaeldelyjah5696 physical injuries can be proven so what you’re saying makes no sense.
Oh dear. After his alibi checked out, he should have been released that same moment unbelievable
He was.
@@user-fz6qv4ve8v after being raped...
That's part of the problem. Jails don't work like on TV. No one gets released immediately. Even if someone is bailed out they might still wait days or weeks depending on the jail's processes. Even though this guy was cleared by police, he was released based on the convenience and security processes of the jail. Although at the very least they should have moved him somewhere else while waiting for release rather than being kept in a unit for violent offenders.
@@user-fz6qv4ve8vNo he wasn't. He was put in there *after* they already knew he was proven innocent.
@@rifter0x0000gotta he a judge who orders it.
Absolutely disgustly., poor man . innocent. All the best
This is so insanely messed up, I am rarely shocked but this shocks me
He needs to sue the police as well. They didn’t do their due diligence of investigation
So traumatic for an innocent man. It's just a nightmare come true. I'm praying for his healing.
He needs to sue the police, and the jail, they have a duty of care for anyone in their custody.
Damn !
The man should get way more than $10million.
I have an acquaintance who was taken to jail once and was forced to stand by as another man was tortured and murdered by other prisoners. The worst part is that nobody even cared that it happened. I knew him before he witnessed that and he is not the same guy anymore. I can only imagine the nightmares you'd have after seeing something like that. Our jails need to do better.
You do go from genuine care and concern, to outright desensitization. I remember my building was in the queue to be called to go to the chow hall, and some guy in one of the pods across from the one I was in, decided that was the perfect time to threaten suicide, by taking a swan dive off the 3rd tier. That put a hold on any movement from our building to go to the chow hall. And the reaction from everyone, was one of frustrated irritation because we were prevented from going to eat dinner. “HURRY UP AND JUMP!!” “WE’RE F’ ING HUNGRY!!”. No concern or compassion for the guy whatsoever.
@@richardtibbetts574 You just stated the entire reason for the system. It is there to proliferate crime and provide a need for the police state we live in.
What a horrible thing. I don't know what I'd do if I witnessed that.
I bet
A friend from college dropped off the map several years ago and then suddenly started texting me again last year. It turned out he had been in prison for five years for allegedly pointing a gun at his wife while black out drunk. He doesn't know if he even did it, so he couldn't defend himself, but he did have a severe alcohol problem and his wife was cozy with the judge so they threw the book at him. Even though he had NO history of domestic violence or criminal history of any kind at all he was put in with murderers. He didn't tell me any stories of what happened to him, I can only imagine. He spent those five years tutoring his fellow inmates to get their GEDs.
He should sue the police for false arrest and the county jail for failure to protect an inmate
Meanwhile elsewhere, corporations are telling employees not to touch thieves blatantly stealing in front of them.