drum-tec mesh heads for electronic drums: See & hear the differences!
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- Опубликовано: 25 авг 2024
- You´ll find all of the mesh heads here in our shop:
www.drum-tec.de...
This video compares our 4 different mesh head lines for e-drums in terms of playability/rebound as well as noise level. Their development & construction is based on 10 years of experience working exclusively with e-drums.
We advise you to use headphones or a good amplifying system while watching, so you can precisely hear & see the differences between the heads!
1) drum-tec design mesh head:
best seller ++ white ++ double ply ++ quietly ++ very good rebound ++ best trigger results ++ long life
This professional mesh head was initially designed for our high-end electronic drum series drum-tec pro + drum-tec diabolo, but also gets used to upgrade Roland or Alesis mesh kits sometimes. Since 2006, the design mesh head is our best selling model and and a very good all-rounder for all applications.
2) drum-tec real feel mesh head:
white ++ triple layer ++ quietly ++ unique real feel rebound ++ perfect trigger results ++ very long life -
Three layers of highest-grade fabric material reduce the rebound to almost the exact level of an acoustic kit. The real feel mesh head visually represents our premium level product and still is almost as quiet as the design mesh heads. Never before has e-drumming been more authentic!
3) drum-tec pro mesh head: black:
++ one ply ++ very thick material ++ higher basic volume ++ very authentic rebound.
This highly durable mesh head has been developed specifically for e- drummers, who desire a maximum of authentic feel. The infamous "tennis racket effect” is almost completely eliminated by the pro´s special fabric material, the playing feel is absolutely authentic. This results in a somewhat higher basic volume, which makes it nice for practicing without a sound module also.
drum-tec basic mesh head:
white or black ++ one ply ++ almost noiseless ++ strong rebound
Well made mesh head with good price / performance ratio to trigger an acoustic set or for use on e-drum pads. The Basic Series is also a cost-effective bottom/resonant mesh head .
Feel free to ask any question you might have, we´ll be glad to help!
Video shot @ drum-tec West / Spytunes Recording Studio, Mainz.
Drumming by Ralf Schumacher.
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To make comparisons easier...
drum-tec design (mesh sound): 0:46
drum-tec real feel (mesh sound): 1:30
drum-tec pro (mesh sound): 2:14
drum-tec basic (mesh sound): 3:19
all together (mesh sound): 4:04
Thank you mate!
HEY Justin, do you designed a mesh head compatible for Roland pdx TD 11kv?????
I could't find nowhere
Love the snare in the intro
Your videos are some of the most informative and helpful videos I've ever seen! They are so clarifying for someone who is a potential customer, in order to understand the differencies between products! Saying so, I would like to suggest a different editing though, that would provide even more clear information: You'd rather present the natural sound take of each product in sequence and then the triggered takes in sequence again, instead of natural and then triggered for each one. That way it would be easier for the viewer to compare the behaviour between the different products for each case (natural, triggered). Beside that, keep up this excellent work!
Been very happy with my "real feel" mesh heads for over 2 years now. No signs of wear. Average use: minimum of 1 hour per day . Vielen dank, meine freunde aus dem osten. Greetings from the Netherlands..
Danke Daniel, schön zu hören! :)
I read a question asking how to reduce volume with the real feel and another asking about retaining the drums tone. To reduce the volume you could simply place a basic mesh head on the resonant or have no resonant at all. If you wish to reduce the volume but retain the basic tone of the drum then you could place any normal drum head on the resonant side with any mesh head on the batter side. I personally like the second option as it allows me to practice quietly without having to turn on my drum module. However of you live in an apartment then the first option is better.
Very good comparison. Better than words.
those reel feel heads are the truth. i was sketpical since theyre expensive to ship to the united states but it was well worth it. these heads are quieter and feel way better than my old remo silent strokes and billy blast heads.
Hey Austin, glad you are happy with the Real Feel heads & thanks for your nice feedback! :)
how about for an apartment? are they too loud? the real feels?
i live in a 1 bedroom apartment in nyc and theyre perfect for me here. best option ive tried so far
I finally got them, theyre pretty loud!
really? maybe it depends on what kit you have them on or something like that. i put my silent stroke heads as the resonant head on my kit and just flipped my rack to upside down to compare them and it still sounded louder.
Irony is, Im watching this video when I cant even afford an Alesis Nitro! woohoo
We've all been there haha
I finally own a Nitro B)
I just recieved my "real feel" 12 inch for the snare of my acoustic to electronic conversion. It is beautiful (very white, can't see through it) and feels AMAZING ! When tuned right, it's the closest thing to a real drum head I ever tried ! Maybe I'm gonna order some for all my toms too! But at least I have the snare. I also ordered the rim silencer. That thing is REALLY HARD to install and it's very thick ! But once you get it there, it makes the rim more silent then any other. Good job, Drum-tec!
Glad to hear! :) kind regards & happy drumming!
Can you explain to me how does this work?
Personally, I've tried the white Design heads, the black Pro heads and the semi-transparent basic heads. The only reason I haven't tried the real feel ones yet is that the ones I stuck with (SPOILER ALERT: The white Design heads) still last - they're extremely durable and the real feel heads were not yet available when I bought my last set of heads (okay, maybe besides durability it also helps that I got kids in the meantime and don't have much time to play anymore, but I digress...).
Astonishingly, I liked the black Pro heads the least. They just felt... wrong. The rebound wasn't right. They felt plain dull. Trigger response was not as great as with other heads. And while they did last longer than the basic heads, they still wore out relatively quickly.
The basic heads are okay-ish: They're cheap, they trigger well, don't make a lot of noise... but they bounce your sticks like a tennis rack - which is okay, if you want to use that to your advantage and develop a super-lazy rebound technique... but that will only work with heads like these and you'll probably ruin your technique for any other type of head in the long run. Also, these things have no durability whatsoever. And since you'll have to replace them every few weeks, they aren't really that cheap in the long run.
The white Design heads are super great. Rebound almost exactly like on a regular non-mesh drum head. Super durable. Great trigger response. Go get them and love them :-)
Les têtes Design sont elles bien opaques ? je n'aimerai pas voir l'intérieur de mes pads , Merci !
What mesh head would you recommend for kick drums (I have an 8 inch kick drum I'd like to replace the mesh head on). I see that both the Diabolo and pro series kicks have design heads, is this the head you would recommend for kicks (even those of 8 inch size) or is it better to go with the real feel heads for those sizes?
Can you do a video review for the drum-tec real feel mesh head Set Fusion, 20", 10", 12", 14", 14??
Great review!!!
You guys at drumtec should mount the realfeel on some rubber rims like the rtom black holes to give us the ultimate practice heads: low volume + acoustic tone + perfect rebound + easy installation/removal. I would buy a set in a heartbeat!
You can put the Real Feel heads on any acoustic shell & use a rim noise eliminator on the drum's rim:
www.drum-tec.com/rimnoise-eliminator-pro
You need the drum rim/lugs for tightening the head, otherwise it won't work. Installation is actually very easy & straight forward :) kind regards!
@drumtecTV, question about trigger results: could you elaborate on "Perfect" vs "Best" trigger results? Thanks for your help.
Hey Greg, sorry for the "marketing talk" :) both design as well as Real Feel mesh heads trigger accurately & very well. The design head only has 2 layers & is a little thinner, so it might feel just a little bit more sensitive. Therefore, the Real Feels rebound feels even more like an acoustic head, being a 3 layer mesh. Hope that helps a little, both models play & trigger great! :) kind regards
thx for showing
Are the "real feel" good for a low volume acoustic kit? I guess it has better and more realistic rebound than the silent stroke and louder. I'm I right? 🤔
Did they ever answer I’m wanting to know as well?
Nope... No answer. To me it would be great, electric kit seems ok, but the playing and dynamics.... Nothing like acoustics 👌🏻 even if it's a poor quality low volume sound
Can these mesh heads be used on the Roland vad706 kit?
Legend of the One-eyed Sailor!!
Hey Brad, no idea what that means... :)
@@drumtecTV You don't even know what you are playing :) ruclips.net/video/pKDh8dVk9b0/видео.html&pbjreload=10
My biggest issue with the Pro was the black coming off on my sticks.
Daniel Mitchell I gotta admit though, it sounds satisfying
i bought 3 real feel mesh heads, the real feel is AMAZING on the snare...but on the 2 hi toms they feel too much like snares, i have a 2 ply on the floor tom which feels amazing to be a tom....my questions is, should i get 2 plys for the rack toms and leave the real feel on the snare?
Can you use these heads on a hybrid set using the Roland triggers?
Sure you can! Please feel free to get in touch through experts@drum-tec.de for further assistance & info if you like. Kind regards!
Hello, I'm trying work out some noise issues on my electric kit and by far the noisiest component is the KD-10 kick drum (my kit is a Roland TD17-KVX). I'm looking to convert one of my acoustic snare drums to a kick drum using a Roland RT-30H. Will the Basic Mesh head be ok for this application (I will be using a double pedal with this). Will it be too bouncy or too weak for a bass drum?
Thanks so much!
When placed on an accoustic practice kit (without triggers), will the real feel heads retain the tone of the drums? Like for example the Silentstroke and the RTOM Black Hole.
Hi Jan-Paul, no they are silent mesh heads, so they won´t resonate. You can actually hear the physical sound of all mesh heads in the video, the drum-tec pro snare from the demo is a wooden drum shell. Kind regards!
What about using the Pro heads on acoustic drum with no triggers? How loud is it? Is it possible to use them together with low volume cymbals? Thank you for the answer.
Hey Daniel, absolutely! They are louder than the design/Real Feel heads, they are nice for practicing with low noise cymbals. We actually do offer a kit package for that purpose:
www.drum-tec.com/tama-hybrid-ljk48s-drum-tec-practice-edition
Kind regards!
you guys do international shipping to Chile ?
Cheers !
yes
Which one plays most like an acoustic head? Drumtec Pro or Drumtec real feel?
Probably the Real Feel! Kind regards
What would you say is the most authentic feel for bass drum heads? Thanks !!
Hi there, well it is not only about the head in this case, but also about the right amount of dampening to reduce unwanted rebound & retriggering. The drum-tec real feel bass drums (diabolo and pro series) do a very authentic job & feel almost like a real acoustic bass drum with hardly any noise:
ruclips.net/video/VMG68NKDfWI/видео.html
Kind regards!
Which is the closest to an Alesis mesh head? Seems like the pro sounds most like the Alesis strike pro mesh head. Would appreciate a second opinion!
the drumtec design sounded louder than the real feel in the second part
Are these available in the USA? If so, where can we buy them online? Thanks! I'm interested in the Drum-tec Pro Black heads.
Can I use these on an acoustic kit and still get good tone/snare buzz? I live in an apartment and neighbors have already complained about my loud playing😒.
Hi, the design head (2-ply) produces a sligth but very silent "buzz" feel. Not quite like a real snare obviously :) but it can give a "snary" impression if you might want to call it so. Kind regards
Thanks for this very nice and usefull video. How does the noise level of drum tec heads compare to the basic rubber pad from Roland or their mesh pads ? A similar video for drum tec bass drum will be awesome !
+Newbiedrum mesh heads in general will deliver a lot less noise than rubber pads. You can find more info on our different mesh head types here in the video info text above (each head is a little different in terms of rebound feeling & noise level). Our standard design heads are pretty equal to the Roland heads in terms of noise, but have a significantly more realistic rebound.
We actually have a video on the drum-tec realf feel bass drums here on the channel, sadly no noise level demo in there. In direct comparison to the standard Roland bd pads, they are significantly more silent and have a very realistic playing feel (you can "bury" the beater in the head, no unwanted/unrealistic bouncy rebound). Hope that helps a bit! Kind regards
Do the drumtec pro heads have the drumtec logo on them?
I bought the real feels, and if youre a fairly heavy hitter, damn theyre loud! is there any way i can make the heads/shell quieter?
Hi there, the Real Feel heads have about the same noise level as any other silent mesh head on the market, there is no way to reduce noise levels any further. Are you using rubber protections for your rims (as those are the most noisy parts of the drums when playing rim shots)? What resonant heads are you using on your shells, could it be that your drums resonate in some way when you hit them? Kind regards
they are 12 and 13 inch wooden drum shells that i cut in half so they are pretty resonant id say, do you recommend any particular resonant heads?
Hey there, I suggest you get in touch with the drum-tec service team directly through info@drum-tec.de, they will be glad to help you out & give you more specified advice! Kind regards
I spoke to them already, they said there is nothing I can do
Hey guys, I've been trying to get a hold of you on Facebook. Do you guys ship to Australia?
Hi there, we sure do! :) You can find info on shipping cost over at our website here:
www.drum-tec.de/shipping-costs-und-payment-options
If you need further assistance, please get in touch through info@drum-tec.de directly! Kind regards
Help for someone who has never played an acoustic kit. How do I dial in the tension using a drum dial/tama drum watch tool with real feel heads? I just got a set to get my Td12 closer to acoustic-feel but have no idea on how tight the tension should be.
Hey Peter, you don't need a tension watch / tuning like with an acoustic head. Just make sure, that you tighten the mesh heads as evenly as possible & tune them pretty tight, so the triggers work accurately. If you need any further help, please feel free to get in touch through experts@drum-tec.de, kind regards!
Which trigger results are better? The "best" trigger results of the design mesh head series or the "perfect" results of the real feel mesh head series? :D
Hi Fabian, well obviously these are different marketing terms for the same positive attributes :) in my personal opinion, both trigger perfectly, while the Real Feel is 1 ply thicker & has a different feel/rebound. If you play mainly pop/rock/groove stuff, I would generally suggest Real Feel. If you prefer a more delicate playing feel comparable to a high tuned jazz kit for example, I would possibly go with the design mesh heads. Both play nice & I do use both on different kits :) Kind regards!
@@drumtecTV thx for that quick answer! Atm I got the design mesh but I will try the real feel soon 👍🏻
Design!!!!
What would you recommend for the best feel on a floor tom?
It depends, the design head is a great mesh for the whole kit (our standard pick). If you want to reduce the rebound to make it even more realistic, it would be the 3-ply "real feel" head. Both trigger & play great :) kind regards
do you guys ship to the U.S.? if so will your website take USD?
We posted this on www.we-ality.com/noise @OurWeAlity
We're all in this together!
Do you guys sell your internal triggers? I'd purchase some right now!!!
For more detailled product information, please get in touch with our drum-tec service team through info@drum-tec.de directly. Kind regards
ok... can you even show where are the toms and kick ? thanks
+De Mo This video only compares the 4 different drum-tec mesh heads, which are identical for snare, tom or bd pads and only differ in sizes. If you go to our channel, you´ll find dozens of videos on our complete electronic drum kits. Kind regards
How well do the pro heads work with Roland RT triggers?
Hi Chris, please get in touch through service@drum-tec.de for any product related questions! Kind regards
which one gives the most exact trigger resultat ?
+soultrain1973 hard to say, they are all triggering nice & accurately. The bigger differences are about the rebound feel and noise level of each head! Kind regards
Hi! What kind of trigger/e-drum are these meshes used on?
Hi, these are drum-tec pro series 14" snare drum pads:
www.drum-tec.com/pads
You can use drum-tec mesh heads with other drums / pads as well.
Kind regards!
You no how you get the remo silent strokes could u just use these as well
Same basic idea, but they are louder than these heads, I believe.
Hi i want to buy one mesh head in order to make a practice snare drum but i want it to feel on my hands like a real drumhead like remo ambassador for example... i dont want extra rebound, i want it as close to a real drumhead as possible! which one do you recomend?
You could try out drum-tec Real Feel (3ply), that one comes closest to a real drum head in terms of rebound & it´s quiet nonetheless. Kind regards
www.drum-tec.com/meshheads?p=1
i tried to order this head from your website and that was not possible because there is a minimum order to Greece 200 euros. So i cannot order one single head???? Please reply!
Please get in touch with our service team directly through info@drum-tec.de for any product and/or shipping info. Kind regards!
How about American distribution???
We ship internationally :)
www.drum-tec.com/shipping-costs-payment-options
If you need any further assistance or an individual quote on a product incl. shipping, please get in touch through info@drum-tec.de! Kind regards
What brand eDrums are these in the video?
The e-snares from the video are all 14" drum-tec pro series:
www.drum-tec.de/pads-drumtec-pro-c-86_198.html
Kind regards
Do these work on alesis pro strike pads?
Sure! We actually offer the Strike Pro SE kit with an additional 14" drum-tec Real Feel head by standard, to improve playing feel/rebound:
ruclips.net/video/iqaV5N3yVnU/видео.html
You can also use the heads for the toms if you like, they are available in all sizes:
www.drum-tec.com/mesh-heads
Kind regards!
One has "perfect" trigger results but a different one is "best"?
Yes, sorry for the marketing speach ;-D all heads trigger equally well. It´s more about the rebound/playing feel & noise levels, which makes the heads very different. Kind regards
Hello greeting friend I write from Venezuela really taste like that of a single pan can place any digital sound me gustari know that posivilidad there that can send me a tutorial images and also design one I'm interested to make two paila to place in each to say the sound of conga drums or bomgos I hope your help and your answer friend because here in Venezuela we do not have enough money to buy one already made
which are more realistic the 2 ply or 3?
Hey there, they both play very realistically. In the end its a matter of personal taste, the 3ply Real Feel has a little less rebound, so it´s reacting a little more like an acoustic head. Best would be to test both side by side & see what you like best. Kind regards
drumtecTV thanks for the 3 reply, I live in an apartment. Would the 3 ply be too loud?
Hi , how do you set your treshold and other parameters when you trigger superior drummer ? I have a pro drum-tec snare and when I hit the center of the snare the sensitivy is way too high compared to the the others parts of the snare. Almost impossible to play normally. If i set the snare to play normally in the center, the rest of the snare almost doesn't react.
How ironic, trying to get the quietest sounding drums, haha
Why is that ironic? Mesh heads are mostly being used on electronic drums, to get the most realistic response & playability at a low playing volume (f.e. for appartment use). Kind regards
@@drumtecTV I understand that completely. I was joking because drums are loud yet we're looking for the quietest options. Just joking obviously, I understand why anyone would want them.
@@berkieallen3611 :-D
If they are for electronic drums then why the hell are you only showing them on traditional drums? What's the fucking point?
+Xcorgi my dear friend, all the drums in this video are electronic drums (as to be heard in the sound demos with the Roland TD-30 module). You can get more info on the drum-tec pro series electronic drums on our website:
www.drum-tec.de/pads-drumtec-pro-series-c-86_198.html
+Xcorgi You're quite daft, aren't you?
+Xcorgi Many people are interested in the actual noise they cause, since a lot of e-drummers are not allowed to be too noisy regarding through their living situation.
+drumtecTV super class. "my dear friend" i bet you were wearing a tux and drinking a martini when you replied to him
+John Schisler ;) just keeping it polite, but I indeed love Martinis...
Personally, I've tried the white Design heads, the black Pro heads and the semi-transparent basic heads. The only reason I haven't tried the real feel ones yet is that the ones I stuck with (SPOILER ALERT: The white Design heads) still last - they're extremely durable and the real feel heads were not yet available when I bought my last set of heads (okay, maybe besides durability it also helps that I got kids in the meantime and don't have much time to play anymore, but I digress...).
Astonishingly, I liked the black Pro heads the least. They just felt... wrong. The rebound wasn't right. They felt plain dull. Trigger response was not as great as with other heads. And while they did last longer than the basic heads, they still wore out relatively quickly.
The basic heads are okay-ish: They're cheap, they trigger well, don't make a lot of noise... but they bounce your sticks like a tennis rack - which is okay, if you want to use that to your advantage and develop a super-lazy rebound technique... but that will only work with heads like these and you'll probably ruin your technique for any other type of head in the long run. Also, these things have no durability whatsoever. And since you'll have to replace them every few weeks, they aren't really that cheap in the long run.
The white Design heads are super great. Rebound almost exactly like on a regular non-mesh drum head. Super durable. Great trigger response. Go get them and love them :-)
Hello Markus, I was about to order the Drum-Tee basics but after reading your comments I did changed my mind, does the white designs much louder than the basics ? thanks
@@janpeugeot5411 No, the difference is minimal.