BEST SPEAKER You've Ever Heard? The One with the 801 D4 Signature
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- Опубликовано: 13 июл 2024
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HIGH-END SPEAKERS
Bowers & Wilkins 801 D4 Signature bit.ly/4aH9d8B
Bowers & Wilkins 801 D2 discontinued
Focal Utopia Colour Evo d/o
Wilson Sabrina d/o
Sonus Faber Stradivari d/o
Sonus Faber IL Cremonese d/o
Sonus Faber Aida d/o
Klipsch LaScala bit.ly/36bPQVb
KEF Blade bit.ly/4cpnU12
Paradigm Persona d/o
Beolab 90 d/o
Beolab 50 d/o
Salon Revel 2
AMPLIFIERS/PRE
Crown Power Amp bit.ly/4bAE4Df
McIntosh C55 bit.ly/4bv5wT7
McIntosh C49 bit.ly/3xroCeK
McIntosh MC312 bit.ly/3xJAY1Y
McIntosh MC152 bit.ly/3VPlRNH
MID-FI SPEAKERS
KEF R11 Meta bit.ly/3A72HY4
SVS Titan bit.ly/3z7MNiV
Martin Logan XT F100 bit.ly/3xgyXql
Bowers & Wilkins 603 S3 bit.ly/4c8dfaj
Bowers & Wilkins 700 Series bit.ly/3xx4iDI
Bowers & Wilkins 705 S3 bit.ly/3Cx8pDq
Klipsch RP-8000F II amzn.to/3PSWy8A
Klipsch Heresy IV bit.ly/35GRnlQ
Klipsch Cornwall IV bit.ly/3Lg3HMR
DefTech DM80 bit.ly/3Z3Owhk
Q Acoustics Concept 50 bit.ly/3Ha2ya0
OTHER
24 bit.ly/3VQJsh1
KEF KC92 Subwoofer bit.ly/4aFgllt
📌 UNPLUGGED EPISODE 15: The BEST SPEAKER You've Ever Heard? Bowers & Wilkins 801 D4 Signature
00:00 KRISTI’s BOWERS & WILKINS 801 D4 SIGNATURE REVIEW
03:32 ARE THE 801s TOO BRIGHT?
06:17 STYLE
07:53 HOW DO YOU JUSTIFY HIGH-END’s PRICE?
12:23 WHEN IS A GOOD THING TOO MUCH?
15:46 HOW MUCH SPACE DO THE 801 D4 SIGNATURES REALLY NEED?
17:14 OLDER 800 SERIES MODELS vs 801 D4 SIGNATURE
20:28 CAN YOU ENJOY HIFI WITHOUT ACOUSTIC TREATMENTS?
28:24 BUDGET-FRIENDLY SPEAKERS THAT GET CLOSE
35:00 THE 801 vs OTHER HIGH-END SPEAKERS
38:07 IS THE 801 YOUR FAVORITE SPEAKER?
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Some people would spend 60 or 70k on a car without blinking twice. Like you mentioned, everyone has (or should have) a passion that they’re willing to go wild with.
Have 802’s good speakers, bright in the high range probably due to material used but the speaker does draw you in and it’s time correct but not phase correct. After hearing a time and phase correct speaker I plan on keeping my 802’s for audio/video system but using time and phase correct with my primary stereo system.
When it comes to room treatment, my philosophy is simple. Treat your room well, it’s part of the equation. Optimize the sound as best you can and focus on the real trouble areas. But perfect is the enemy of the good. My listening experience and my listening room is my sanctuary. I enjoy the aesthetic components just as much. It adds to my listening experience to have a comfortable couch that looks good; it adds to my listening experience to be surrounded by my large indoor plants; it adds to my listening experience to have a nice coffee table where I can have a nice cup of coffee and snacks while I listen. It’s a whole experience; and I will never allow my obsession with the perfect sound to come in the way of my love for feeling comfortable and at home in my oasis.
i am a regular viewer and I never comment. This time I just want to say Andrew, you gave me the confidence for enjoying my system. I also don’t have all the acoustic and all the “tricks” and “gadgets”. I used to listen to advices and made my room “crazy”. I just don’t want to be missing something to have worst sound. Now because of you. My mind is free! Thank you Andrew!
I am loving these Unplugged discussions. Great forum for this type of discourse. I feel the trading of impressions back and forth is a great format. It is helpful in giving one a broader picture of the product being discussed. Thanks so much. I really enjoyed the review and Unplugged on the Wharfedale Super Dentons. 👍🏼🎶
We appreciate you watching the shows; it means a lot.
I don’t think I have ever seen Andrew laugh so casually and deeply about those B&W’s.
Good stuff!
IMHO the review of the year. Thank you for making it happen.
Thanks for watching it!
So far, you mean; there’s a whole 6 months left, and scores of audiophile dragons yet to be slayed.😊
Key Andrew quote: “it even irks you when other people say ‘ well, ya know, you can do that for berba derpa der’” Truer words have never been spoken on RUclips, or anywhere else, for that matter.
I’ll add that RUclips’s automatic closed caption transcription system failed us on this very quote. It’s a shame, really.
HAHAHAHAHA
It gave up on the B in berba and never looked back.
Anyway, my job of making the most meaningful contribution to the conversation is done here. You’re all very welcome.
@@Caleb_Denison He says that in real life all the time. I'd give anything for a simple "blah, blah, blah." :)
Why is it "cool" when someone buys a $20k motorcycle or a $70k sports car, but considered excessive to put that amount of money into an audio system? I can enjoy my audio system for many more hours than I'd enjoy a vehicle.
BINGO. My system is almost never off, whereas my car sits parked 90% of the time. Car cost more, gets used less, and depreciates just as much (or more).
@@andrewrobinsonreviewsgood you had a system that impacted you that much to be the standard.
@@andrewrobinsonreviewstry the
Ps audio floor standing speakers there are different tiers may make for a really good tiered review for a series of speakers that could be for many levels of consumer
Nice review conversation keep these videos coming
@andrewrobinsonreviews, can you please review the Yamaha NS555 speakers ? Many thanks .
Your reviews are interesting and fun to watch. It has improve over the years, thank-you both.
Thanks for watching them over the years!
23:27 most people still haven’t put their speakers in the best position to perform.
Absolutely correct Wilson takes the time to correctly place and set up the sound to work in a realistic room .
Setup is 90-95% of one's experience.
The vintage western electric stuff is sold by Deja Vu Audio in Virginia. He’s Vietnamese I believe. They are still in business. The best DAC you will ever hear is through them…called the Aldo Dac. Paired with their western electric tube amps, the sound is the most magical anyone will ever hear.
Great speakers. Standard 801D4s blew me away so can’t imagine the signatures. They look much better in person and could not believe the speakers didn’t have a sub. They cranked out near accurate bass. Price is subjective.
Every time you guys show those Mcintosh pieces I become like the fly that can't get away from the blue zapper "Don't go into the light!" "I can't help help it. It's so beautiful." I look at those things and the world around me just goes away.
I see the price of Humble Pie has gone up. You're absolutely right in that sometimes you need to reset that bar for the lower 95% of the products that people CAN reasonably attain, and know that those "top 3" are still there to benchmark against. Much appreciated with the honesty and work put into this.
Thank you! We appreciate you tuning in!
Bravo! Encore! Loved this! Cannot tell you how much I appreciate your no BS approach to this hobby. Please please please continue with the high end and budget reviews. Love both your comments and Andrew your experience and knowledge. You take this seriously and it shows. Plus you two are fun.
Thank you, we really appreciate it. I believe there's room for everyone, every budget, and every need, and I really want our channel to reflect that.
You do succeed at that. And from what I see, this can be one tough crowd too. Great job as always.
Well done on a very comprehensive review & discussion on these high end speakers especially in your comparisons to high & low end price speakers, Plus Kristi adds her usual sparkle to it all like a missing diamond tweeter in an already great soundstage, Ye work well together and admire the combination
So glad you enjoyed it!
Guys, you NEED to get the full Steinway lyngdorf model S 2+2 system in for test.
That setup is insanely impressive
I have 801 D4s. They are tight. They are not at all too bright, at least not to my taste. I use room correction, but even with it turned off, they sound amazing.
You guys answered my question! Thank you. Was just sitting down for my Friday evening viewing and my name pops up. ❤
What a beautifully constructed video the fact I can watch a video about a set of speakers that cost more then my house and be thoroughly entertained and will quite frankly never own, shows the high level of execution and perspective that you place in your videos. And for that I thank you.
Great video guys! Love this format. Mixing your take and exchange with Kristi and including viewers' takes and questions... It's an amazing format. Well done guys!
Really appreciated the conversation in this video. It keeps on adding to my education:)
Hi from Vancouver!
My first breath taking experience listening to a speaker in a store showroom was back in the 90’s with the Wilson Grand Slams. They were playing piano and sounded like one was in the room.
The next time was about 10 years ago in a store showroom with the big YG Sonyas. They were certainly impressive.
Cheers!
Love the room treatment rant! Absolute perfection. Keep up the great work!
@C Butti i used to paint, when I look at a painting, i look at it as a whole and then i examine minute details such as style, brush strokes, and technique. You can see the forest and admire the individual trees that make up that forest.😊
Thank you for such an honest review. I enjoy your reviews for that reason.
It gave me goosebumps when you told that old speaker story.
your videos were always great tbh, but your recent videos have become incredible
I am surprised you don't have Klipsch Jubilees on your list of speakers you would want in your room, based on La Scalas being in your top 3.
Such a fun video to watch and I'm so happy for you both to be able to have these in your house! I've wanted / lusted after some 801 or 802s for years and years and years - but they are WAY out of my budget / price range - and I know that.... but man they're beautiful in every way. For me, I'm perfectly happy sitting in front of my Polk R700s (thanks for your reviews on those!!!) that fit into my budget and have the ability to put a smile on my face every time. They are no B&W 800 series, for sure, but they are what I could afford.... and taking that into consideration, I love what I have. It's still so fun to see these B&Ws though and STILL have those wishful thoughts. Keep up the great content. Thank you BOTH for all your work on this channel!
Good afternoon, Kristi and Andrew. You have the unenviable job of presenting reviews without caveats. I trust your honest presentations and I am not going to waste my time looking for hidden room treatments when such endeavors are futile. I base my knowledge of my listening room upon experience with how my speakers should sound to me. If there is an acoustic anomaly then I shall apply experience to rectify it. Keep up the good work and while I am happy with the way my system sounds I am happy enjoying your channel for what you provide. Thank you.
Loved this video. Especially the section on room treatments.
I love the older bulldog look too! As an owner of Matrix 801's, I really love the single 12" woofer aesthetic.
Good morning Andrew and Kristi. More great discussion. Very honored to be a 3x comment contributor to Unplugged. Hoping to be the Unplugged question GOAT LOL! Just to clarify my comment with regard to poor recordings, I wasn't implying artist record their music poorly intentionally, I'm referring to lots of records, typically older stuff such as 70's/80's rock, pop, etc that is frankly very poorly mastered but still music I listen to and enjoy. On a separate note I think you might find interesting is that according to David Price, who reviewed these speaker at B&W HQ, B&W used a Michi P5 and M8 mono blocks (1080W into 8 ohms/1800W into 4 ohms) as their reference system hooked up to them. Hoping those KEF Blades are just lost in the mail and show up someday for review! Thanks for the great work and looking forward to this Sunday's review.
Love love love this review! thank you both. I have the klipsch 8000 F and love them and thank you for your videos .I'm a rock and roll old school guy lol .
I Totally get the HT with these. Its actually quite surprising the first time we experience a movie with just a high quality hifi 2 channel setup, it actually feels… real and so engaging thanks to the soundstage and insanely good tonal balance.
Thanks for another awesome sincere review. I appreciate the various perspective from budget to hi end to sound, room treatment, etc. Such a wonderful well rounded chat. One day…😊
Continuing to enjoy the new format. I like the tight review videos and the new unplugged videos that have room to breath, allow for Kristy's feedback 😊 and an opportunity to respond to comments on the review video.
Awesome, thank you!
Great discussion! Happy 4th, everyone!
I have been watching this channel for the past few months and have really appreciated your honest reviews. It's awesome to see this set of B&W speakers reviewed. I have a set of DM604 S3's and its about time to pair them up with some decent amplification. I wasn't sure I needed to until watching more and more of this channel to see that B&W speakers need quality amplification. I am leaning towards Anthem Mr series but unsure
🙋♂️ GLAD TO SEE KRISTI ,SHARING HER OPINION AS ALWAYS OPEN AND HONEST 💚💚💚
🎶You're the best
around 🎶
HA! Thanks for tuning in!
This is a video that hits on my experiences as well. Going from some very expensive floor-standing speakers to restoring some Altec Flamenco speakers, and wanting nothing from the previous, has been a rewarding and enlightening adventure. The Kef Blade though, is something you might be more proactive in getting a pair. If Blade 2, team them with some subs in your large space. I was more than impressed with them in a friends system. Nice work on the video, and your experience shines through! Bravo....
Great questions in this one. It’s fun to compare these aspirational speakers. Would love for you to get some Beolab 50s or Wilsons.
Very cool unplugged.
I will wait patiently forever for your Beolab 90 review.
Same here! I feel as if nobody is talking about them.
Good afternoon ☕️ from Toronto.
I was very intrigued with the OG review..nicely done
This follow up is fabulous.
I love these speakers..by I’m thinking they do require a very upscale source and power chain . Have a great weekend 🍻
Upscale source....maybe. Definitely need a good amplifier! Thanks for joining us!
Perceptive comment about people having, in some form, their own B&W D4 Signature speaker. So true, and it could be anything from a suit of clothes to a bicycle, car or that ultimate 1911 .45 handgun tricked out with all the bells and whistles. To splurge or not to splurge? That is the question that most of us ask at some point in our lives, and then we do, if only once.
Have dreamed of a top end set of B&W speakers with McIntosh amplification from 20+ years. Still dreaming. Enjoyed it.
Great episode with lots of good info. Thank you. I’d love to have a pair of La Scalas. That’s my dream. But like you said, don’t necessarily need it as I’m ok with what I have in what my space allows. But I still hope for that day.
When Kristi takes over from the very beginning and is THIS emphatic about a home audio product, you know you've done well. You chose well, Andrew. You chose well.
My thoughts are on room treatment, Kristi hit on the live music angle, if you see the same band in 3 different venues you will get 3 different sounds and probably none of them are bad enough to leave. I have 2 different rooms I can listen in my house and get 2 different sounds and I enjoy them both. If it sounded like crap I would change it. It makes sense that you would treat your room, it’s your job. I don’t know why people make such a big deal out of this.
It's only bright because the recorded material is bright, these speakers will reflect every good and bad in a recording, very revealing.
The 801 Matrix was "My 801," in the sense you mean (around 10:00). I couldn't afford $5000 in 1997, so I bought the 805 Matrix instead. It made too many of my CDs sound horrible. Way too revealing in the upper midrange. After a series of changes, including having tinnitus starting in 1998, I'm a somewhat more mid-fi listener since then.
I'd still love to hear those 801s you're listening to now. And I love both the design and the nifty blue color. LOVE THEM.
I really hope you get a chance to audition the Klipsch Jubilee’s. If you love the Lascala’s I think you’ll go coocoo for cocopuffs over the Jubilee’s
I wish Wilson would send you a pair of Sabrina X, Sasha, or the new Watt Puppy’s. I really enjoyed this follow up segment to add more context to the prior review. Very helpful discussion!
Have Dali send you a set of Kore. Lord those sound amazing.
La Scalas were the one speaker that spooked me even over RUclips and kanto desktops with its realism in the vocals listening to sara mclachlan.
How would you compare the 801 D4 signature to the nautilus?And also do you think that the 801 D4 signature's diamond tweater is comparable to the tweater from Dali Kore?
24:22 I’m glad I watched this video. Every time I think about room treatment, it makes my brain hurt. I keep thinking the room is bad, and it takes away my enjoyment of movies and music.
It's nice to see this...one of the best videos I've seen on your channel...i'm a two channel guy🎶
I’m here! Just finished watching the review! Sounds like an amazing experience to hear them. The “biggest” loudspeakers I have heard are the KEF Blades at Best Buy, and they were so impressive but a bit cold (glacial) for me!! But they were pretty incredible! I wonder how those would compare to these B&W D4 Signatures.
So glad to see you, Leezah! Hope your Friday is off to a great start. I haven't heard the Blades yet, but I can imagine how they sound based on my experience with the R Series. I'm not sure if the look of the Blade is for me, but I still want to get a pair in for review.
@@andrewrobinsonreviewsthat would be awesome!
Just curious, is there a reason that Kristi doesn't appear on camera? I think it would be much nicer to see her while she is talking.
Probably because she doesn’t do this for clout just to provide information.
I agree with 95% of what you have said about these speakers based on my 802D4 ownership experience. I do believe a very large hard surface between the speakers does have an effect. If you’ve done a good job of sound treatment elsewhere, I agree, probably not intelligible. But going back to the question - why remove grills if you have a TV between them? This is more akin to your discussion regarding the diamond tweeters. Let the speakers deliver what they deliver. Besides, nobody is going to remove the diamond tweeter grills for listening, and this is the part of the frequency most likely to create an issue with regard to a large TV Screen. One last point on that front. The front of my 802D4 tweeters are 19 inches in front of my 55 inch TV. I believe that offset is very helpful as well since we know treble does not radiate backward to any large degree. Thanks for this excellent video. I have resubscribed.
Great review one of your best yet
Thanks for easing on the topic of room treatment etc. It takes away some anxiety I always had here.
I found long ago that while I owned BW 801s with external xovers and all Krell suited my music well. I tried for once to connect my 300S to BW601s and would make you a believer that the match of amplification can be easlily missed. I am really thinking about trying the Titans with my MC402 and get back to toe tapping.... I wont go into my current speakers but they dont pull in all the time for return sessions and thats what this crazy hobby is all about. Doesnt matter the logo, look or price but the magic of "goose bumps".
I’m considering getting a C2800 and Mc312 for my Kef R11 metas. You think they would pair well? Love the channel!
The honestly is flowing. Atta boy, Andrew!
You both nailed it.
This is the best review i have seen from you.
I can relate, using the 800 series speakers myself. 4 sets. Though i use different amps and Processor. Etc...
As far as room correction, I use NONE... My opinion is its a sales gimmick.
I have 3 audio and theater rooms in my home. 1 room is set up with Klipsch, 2nd is set up with Kef. My extreme room is my B&W room...
I have suggested for people I know to go to as many places as possible to listen to speakers and there audio set up.
I have also suggested going to bars or night clubs to listen to what they use.
Keep up the great reviews
The Beolab 90 is now $150K. Yes you read that right, this year saw a price hike that seriously broke my heart. I won’t go more into the price unless someone wants to discuss. This is in my top 3 speakers, but never heard them in my own space (who has except the few owners?). I’d love your review of the 50 or 90s. I’ve never cared for the 50s, the 21s would be my top choice at much less over them. How do you two feel about shows? Just went to my first one and saw some really cool stuff, not sure I heard anything that blew me away. Is that a space and limited time tuning issue?
Very well said, Andrew... Much better to have fully everything you need in a speaker. Then if you EQ anything, you are pulling back just a tad and not adding unwanted coloring.
If it's at all possible it would be nice to hear your opinion on Magnepan, Diptyque, Martin Logan electrostatic speakers...
I wanna echo something Kristi mentioned. My Klipsch RF7 llls arent in the same ballpark as these. But for me, they were pricey and special. A decent speaker can be totally adequate in a home theater. But my RF7s are truly special as the front channels of my theater. Couldnt believe how much better a “musical” speaker performed in my setup.
Thanks Andrew & Kristi, what a vicarious experience that was! Interesting comment at the end regarding a reset or "palate cleanse" as a reviewer -- I've heard/read similar comments in the car industry where car reviewers get bogged down in the churn of new car reviews and it takes something like a Mazda MX5 (Miata) to recalibrate themselves.
Great episode Andrew and Kristi. Such high production value on these episodes, one of the best out there in this space, imho. This episode makes me want to go back to my local dealer and spend some time listening to the D4 Signatures in their showroom. They're some chonky speakers in person, though (as beautiful as they are). Even if my wife would agree to spend the money on them, I think they'd be too imposing in our room space: 22ft x 19ft that opens to a kitchen / breakfast area. So, I know you made some comparisons in the videos and that "budget" is a loosely associated term here -- Do you have any recommendations that would be pretty close in comparison within a $10-$12k/pair budget?
The $50,000 audio system at my local audio store only sounds 10% better than my under $4,000 system. It’s all about synergy with the room and equipment.
I doubt that is really the truth..
Or u know *&^% all about sound
@@Richiv77 Actually, I think that's about right. Maybe not exactly those numbers, but you spend a ton to get a little improvement once you reach a certain level. Is a Rolls Royce several times as good as an S class? Well, not really. It is better, yes. And there is a reason why it costs so much. But it's not going to be a massive jump.
@@kadajawi2 I get the point on those cars and sound systems. However, I have heard $10 000 speakers and have also listened to the B&W 801 D4's and there is NO Comparison.
@@Richiv77 I'm extremely happy with the sound. There are some minors flaws here and there, sibilance on some poorly recorded songs is one, but the vast majority of music sounds wonderful at low and high volumes. Besides, I don't care for that Alanis Morissette song anyways. Listening to the demos at the audio store, in a room that looked like a freaking padded cell, was impressive, but my system is almost as impressive, and I’d save the difference. Diminishing returns on a speaker system means excellent returns in another way. Many go bankrupt chasing the perfect sound. You can go ahead and purchase the B&W 801d’s, and the amps, preamps and dac’s that make them sing. Listening to a $10,000 system and owning an upwards of $75,000 dollar system is another.
All I can say is that I'm sort of glad that my hearing isn't nearly as good as it once was. As a result, chasing superb SQ isn't anywhere close to being a priority as it was in my younger years, and my retirement fund and its general future healthiness is extremely thankful for that. 👍😉
You might be interested in listening to some of Devon Turnbull's systems. He's really into the Western Electric sound and builds some really amazing systems. Had the opportunity to listen to one of his creations at a gallery in New York that had set up a listening room and it was next level sound. He makes some consumer DIY speakers as well. Not really something to review but just to compare to your Western Electric magic moment.
28:29 you’re about as genuine as they come. I appreciate your frankness and you don’t seem to push BS. I was won’t ever own the B&W 801’s, but it’s still interesting to listen about that extreme high end product. Thanks for all you and Kristi do. You bring good value to the people that take the time to listen to your thoughts. Thank You!!!
Happy Friday Kristi and Andrew ✌️
Hi!
Happy Friday to you too!
Just gotta say, I really appreciate that you were showing the speakers that you talked about. 🌝👍
Sometimes when you mention products, XM 183b ll, ive got no clue! So you may as well be speaking dolphin 🤔😂
Happy day guys 🌝🙏
I have more than one thing that is my proverbial 801 Signature albeit they cost less individually but the analogy still applies.
Damn!!! I was waiting to see the review on the Anthem Str, wouldve been nice to see 200 watts and room correction on these.
That broken tweeter broke my heart damn
...and B&W's bank account.
@andrewrobinsonreviews I just watched your review of the B&W Formation Duo and I was curious what your opinion is 5 years later after hearing and reviewing more B&W speakers. Do you still feel strongly about how much you loved the Formation Duo?
Here we go on Friday. Cool. Lets do it.
Thanks for joining us as always!
Cool video topics! Thanks
Really interesting discussion. I guess for me my question would be whether I would really hear enough of a difference between these and something very good but considerably less expensive, like the KEF R5s. Obviously an individual choice. If you own these for 20 years, the daily cost work out to about $8.00 a day. Compare that to buying a boat for 50K and using it for 10 days a year.
Perfectly said Andrew. I had a choice last year. A grand high end system or another new Harley. I’m super passionate about both. But my Harleys are my top pastime and passion then my sound system. And my sound system is no slouch.
I have a pair of 801 Series 80 and a pair of 801 Matrix (over 35 years old) and they need much more power that the current generations. You will not appreciate the tremendous dynamic range without power, at least on the older models. You can listen to the D4s, as well as all the speakers you mentioned in this video at the Audio Advice Live show in Raleigh, Aug 2-4. That show has been amazing the past two years!
I just cannot support any company that has a goal of putting other shops out of biz not named Amazon.
26:23 The facts are there. Look at a studio, if room treatment is all that’s needed, than why would they spend 10s to 100s of thousands on the monitors too. And some of those speakers that they have sound amazing quality in normal living spaces, without a room that sound like an anechoic chamber. As we have seen on this channel, some speakers sound better in real room, vs a completely dead room.
This is why most studios have B&W Nautilus
For me, the best big boxes are the KLH Model 5 paired with the one and only T+A Pulsar R2000AC. The bookshelf compression are the vintage aluminium Technics SB F3.
Appreciate you sharing. Thanks for joining us this morning!
Afternoon Andrew. Kristi and Kadie👍👍👍
Good morning, KJ!
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The advantage to center speakers is that you don't have to be in ideal listening position.
The disadvantage is that they aren't as good and they never truly match.
My compromise is to use identical bookshelf speakers for fronts and center with a neutral amplifier for the center (front amp to preference). Maybe not so much of a compromise because unless you have a well designed room (or lucky), towers won't have optimum bass anyway
That was great guys. Thank you...
Thank you both so much for reviewing some higher end speakers on this channel. i.e. B&W 801 D4 signatures. These are probably considered pretty expensive to many viewers however, for me, this is the sweet spot for true high-end audio. I do concede that there are some manufacturers out there that can achieve the same sonic purity for less, but not at a 10th of their price. I would love to see you review other speakers of the same calibre from time to time. I own some Focal Scala' Utopia's and Martin Logan 13a and appreciate them both for their different characteristics. With speakers selling at over $1m rrp, the B&W 801 D4 signatures could almost be considered relatively affordable. For me, there is a point where some ultra hi end gear is more about bragging rights than it is musical enjoyment. Keep this content coming.
Both Beolab 90 and Beolab 50 are amazing speakers. Beolab 90 was way too expensive and the wifey thought they were so ugly but she gave thumbs up for the Beolab 50, so I bought those, but it was a couple of years ago and now the prices has increased through the roof. Still love them and I love that I can ”tune” them through the software to sound as I like them to.
@@PhotoViking-Nordic Sounds super. May i ask what you had before? I demoed both the 50 and the 90 but not in the same room, and i felt the 50 was not given the same attention by the dealer regarding tuning them in. Do you feel that you get the 50ies to Sound the same as 90 scaled Down or not?
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@@simonadelin934 I don’t remember exactly all details, it was a couple of years ago but of course Beolab 90 is better but not worth the money and the size. I had active Linn Akurate 242 before. My wife was very happy to get rid of all the poweramps 😁. I am still very happy with Beolab 50 and I have a couple of my own soundsettings in them. I also tried using a microphone to ”autoset” them up but that actually made them worse.
@@PhotoViking-Nordic i will consider Them on my shortlist. Thank you for answering😃
You mentioned using straight PCM. Do you set the receivers you review to "Straight," i.e., "pure direct," on Yamaha, and compare them to dedicated stereo amplifiers?
I play with a variety of settings, and it will vary based on the product. Some products need the signal set to strict PCM, whereas others are more flexible, so my settings vary.
Thanks for the reply to the question, guys! I’m going to need more cash AND a bigger house 😆