suspension. i always had trouble with it. ive watched so many videos and it was still confusing. i even have a manual too. this video is a million times clearer.
Fantastic description and demonstration of how rebound and compression affect the suspension, by having settings at minimum and maximum the effects are clearly seen. Far better than the Ohlins video I watched prior to this. Thank you
finally a video that explains this in the simplest terms. I now have a better understanding as to why my bike is acting like it is. ( relationship of rebound and in turn handling. I could not understand and I though it was damping and not rebound causing the issue
Grate video! Really helpful, and the excel sheet was just what I was needing to fully understand the suspension setup, and here in Santa Cruz - Bolivia there is nowhere you can have your suspension properly set up for personal use. Thanks very much
Excellent tutorial series on suspension. Planning on having a bash at setting mine up now. Was originally just going to throw £40 at a suspension shop for what you've shown to be easily doable with minimal mechanical know how :) Thanks.
3:50 Actually you don't have to adjust them equally, they would just have an average between them. This principle can be used if you have spring rate that is too hard, and one that is too soft, you can go in between by having the hard spring in 1 leg, and the soft spring in the other. The same principle is also abused in saving costs on some bikes (ex. MT07/09) by having rebound on just 1 leg, and compression on the other (so still offering full rebound/compression damping adjustments, but with simpler (read: cheaper) fork legs.
Just in case you're interested, it's not "dampening", it's "damping"... "Dampening" is making something wet, "damping" is draining energy from a periodic motion to reduce oscillations in the system :)
@@darthpaul4432 😂 Whew, I'm glad we're in agreement! JK, actually, what do I know, it's just how I've always heard it. Between you and me, however, I have been wrong before.😉 Actually, I'm getting ready for my first bike to even have fully adjustable suspension, so that's why I'm prepping myself to learn a bit about this art form! Cheers from frigid Vermont!
Your Excel Suspension sheet contains an error in the "Static Sag" comment box. It says "If you have more than 30mm then your preload is to hard or you may need softer springs." [SIC] This is incorrect. If your preload is beyond the maximum range, then what you need is stiffer springs or more preload because we want the front end to give more support to the rider and shorten the length of travel (rider sag in the front). Cheers.
I once owned a 1999 R1 that would bronco so much on the high-way that I had to sell it. Bronco is that the tires were always in the air and jumping of the pavement from tiny little bumps I would encounter. I always wondered what the problem was. I have never figured it out till this day. Does anyone know what it could have been?
What’s with adding ‘en’ in damping? Your description of what the rear does is the wrong way round ie the rear doesn’t naturally squat it actually does the opposite. Try letting clutch partly out with the front wheel against a wall and you’ll see. You haven’t mentioned rising rate linkages and how it relates to spring weight and sag. Too much rebound in the shock will also tear up the rear tyre.
Great video chopsie (even now many years later)
suspension. i always had trouble with it. ive watched so many videos and it was still confusing. i even have a manual too. this video is a million times clearer.
Fantastic description and demonstration of how rebound and compression affect the suspension, by having settings at minimum and maximum the effects are clearly seen.
Far better than the Ohlins video I watched prior to this.
Thank you
Thanks SG, thought that would be helpful :)
This is the exact video I need . Thank you for this
Glad it was helpful!
finally a video that explains this in the simplest terms. I now have a better understanding as to why my bike is acting like it is. ( relationship of rebound and in turn handling. I could not understand and I though it was damping and not rebound causing the issue
Grate video! Really helpful, and the excel sheet was just what I was needing to fully understand the suspension setup, and here in Santa Cruz - Bolivia there is nowhere you can have your suspension properly set up for personal use. Thanks very much
+Marcelo Condorcett no problem Marcelo glad it was useful 👍
Just subscribed an hit the bell after watching this great video. What a beauty of a bike that is. Looks gorgeous.
Excellent tutorial series on suspension. Planning on having a bash at setting mine up now. Was originally just going to throw £40 at a suspension shop for what you've shown to be easily doable with minimal mechanical know how :)
Thanks.
Yes, defo worth a go before paying someone. Even to set the sag for your weight will transform the bike. Glad the vids helped :)
That is one FREEKING SEXY Fireblade !!!!
Nothing like being in the "Chop Shop". Its the place to be! Cheers groover ;-)
3:50 Actually you don't have to adjust them equally, they would just have an average between them. This principle can be used if you have spring rate that is too hard, and one that is too soft, you can go in between by having the hard spring in 1 leg, and the soft spring in the other.
The same principle is also abused in saving costs on some bikes (ex. MT07/09) by having rebound on just 1 leg, and compression on the other (so still offering full rebound/compression damping adjustments, but with simpler (read: cheaper) fork legs.
Thank you much, clear and easy to understand.
Thanks for the videos and chart :)
awesome video lamb thanks for taking the time to make this. you answered all of the questions i had. much appreciated
Great stuff Benz, glad I could help :)
benzdoctoR j
Thanks a lot! Really found these explanations helpful!
+M Modo great thanks matey 👍
This is great information
11:00 The rear does not compress under acceleration, but extends. Assuming your swingarm goes downwards and backwards.
that is wrong....
Very good explanation!
Just in case you're interested, it's not "dampening", it's "damping"... "Dampening" is making something wet, "damping" is draining energy from a periodic motion to reduce oscillations in the system :)
There's one thing worse than a pedant. A pedant that's wrong.
www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/dampen
@@darthpaul4432 Nah, he's right. The proper term is damping. 😁
@@TK-cl1jm because you say so then I guess he must be :)
@@darthpaul4432 😂 Whew, I'm glad we're in agreement! JK, actually, what do I know, it's just how I've always heard it. Between you and me, however, I have been wrong before.😉
Actually, I'm getting ready for my first bike to even have fully adjustable suspension, so that's why I'm prepping myself to learn a bit about this art form!
Cheers from frigid Vermont!
Thanks mate
Great vid... does compression affect rebound? if so shouldnt it be set first???
what shock absorber are you using???isit possible to fix a zx10r shock absorber on my cbr900rr 98-99 model???BTW useful video...
Make me clear my mind,thx
👋hi m8 i want ask u something.. how u install hidraulic clutch in the bike
omg awesome video, I ride a Daytona 675 2014, when u say turns to I ignore the clicks on my front suspension and just do turns?
+James Kennerly Yes just do turns James, mines the same tbh
+Lamb Chop Rides, okay also my front shakes as I get up to speed is that not enough high speed compression?
Hi - useful info here! would like to download your chart but doesn't seem to be available..
Try again now Tim?
Got it - thanks! :)
Your Excel Suspension sheet contains an error in the "Static Sag" comment box. It says "If you have more than 30mm then your preload is to hard or you may need softer springs." [SIC] This is incorrect. If your preload is beyond the maximum range, then what you need is stiffer springs or more preload because we want the front end to give more support to the rider and shorten the length of travel (rider sag in the front). Cheers.
Excellent video! Very helpful!!!
Max braking how much mm left off the bottom end would be ideal?
As close as you can get it without bottoming out.
what grips are those mate?
I once owned a 1999 R1 that would bronco so much on the high-way that I had to sell it. Bronco is that the tires were always in the air and jumping of the pavement from tiny little bumps I would encounter. I always wondered what the problem was. I have never figured it out till this day. Does anyone know what it could have been?
How about the fuel tank? Its full, half or empty? Or it does not mather?
+Rigó Szabolcs doesn't make a huge difference but half full would be best
Thanks
What’s with adding ‘en’ in damping?
Your description of what the rear does is the wrong way round ie the rear doesn’t naturally squat it actually does the opposite. Try letting clutch partly out with the front wheel against a wall and you’ll see.
You haven’t mentioned rising rate linkages and how it relates to spring weight and sag.
Too much rebound in the shock will also tear up the rear tyre.
Hi m, Where’s the sag vid?
Don’t worry I’ve watched it now. Thanks for the vid very helpful. Too man.
direi che prima di regolare il ritorno ,si deve scaricare la compressione
Damping, not dampening.
Against common belief under acceleration the rear actually lifts, it doesn't squat .
if suspension supports it
Fun fact: The rear suspension rises when you accelerate. Good explaination but I think you got that part wrong.
Siddharth Sharma well that's not really true
Damping
Sag