COD should’ve never switched to pc to many cheaters to much inconsistent gameplay with players having the best hardware due to follower count and players with low end pcs consoles all hit 120hz and it would eliminate the cheaters from the legit grinders
As a college athlete I'm not arguing that video games take skill, and I'm not great at them, but you saying they're a sport is utterly ridiculous. If you can say competitive chess is a sport I'll give it to you, but that whole micro-transactions cod is a sport??? this whole e-sports thing is nuts. I'm not arguing competitive video games exist, but comparing it to sport bugs me so much.
Wasn’t the pros.., there is always cry baby’s for new cods and I remember tons of fans disliking jet packs because they did it like two years in a row different styles.
its always so funny hearing the dialogue about jetpacks now. Back when we were in the jetpack era, everyone in the pro scene was crying to go back to boots on the ground. Now its we need to go back to jetpacks and it was the best.
@@auburntigers444 bo3 is beloved because of zombies, not because of multiplayer. The community HATED jetpack cods, including BO3. It was just hated least of the bunch.
People hated AW because it was janky and unpolished. Everyone loved BO3 because it fixed all that. you'll notice that most of the complaints are about the game being bad and not what the game is.
The one thing no one ever talks about with SBMM is it ruined the game for friend groups that vary in skill. My whole group stopped playing because playing together was miserable. Good players need to back pack their asses off and the bad players just get destroyed game after game.
This, I just came to cod haven’t played since bo4 and that’s the first thing I noticed, I started out getting carried but once I got used to playing and got good again I was sweating like crazy every game and my homie were bottom frag going negative
In terms of SBMM - I'm a 33 YO dad and I played against Octane and Nadeshot the first few weeks it came out. Every game I'm in is sweaty af when I'm just trying to get camos. In MW2 there would be just a few games a night where games would be this sweaty.
skillbase matchmaking in its current state is literally the reason i dont ever play multiplayer. i have 1 good game and for the next 10 matches im against people that are just absolutely way better and try way harder than me in pubs makes it so unfun its horrible
I definitely got better as a player when sbmm came out. But that was because we didn’t have ranked to play. It would be nice to have regular multiplayer be no sbmm and just make sure every game has ranked going forward
I personally like SBMM because it makes you better. I also try to stay away from the whole "he's only better than me because he's trying his ass off." Not throwing shade at you, that's just geniunely my take.
@@lt8400 Engagement Optimized Match Making, SOME of it is proven, some of it is skeptism. It's the idea that Activision "rigs" games by putting you with better players on other team, bad on your team, bad connection, some people even say skill based damage lol. But it makes you lose more which makes you want to play to make up for losing, kinda like gambling when you chase your losses.
Noticed Karma bringing up that they’ve said SBMM is in the older cods and feel the need to bring it up because i think it confuses people. Feel like this has become a more persistent myth about SBMM/EOMM in older cods. It 100000% did not exist the way it’s described now. It was Score Based Team Balancing. Or better put, if you and another guy stomped the opponents, the game would try to put you on different teams the next game. The SBMM thing in older cods is something bad players and angry devs have tried to use to gaslight the public by not actually/vaguely describing what was going on then and whats going on now.
This makes so much sense. When Damon said that I was like no fucking way, cus I've been a pubstomper for a while and what he's saying just seems so false. I do remember what ur saying tho where it would always put the 2nd best player in the enemy team
And that old set up created these great little in-lobby rivalries before they would automatically disband lobbies post-game. You’d often have a rival on the other team for a few games and you two would duke it out. I used to love that so so much.
We also have to remember that a LOT of people didn't have headsets back then compared to now. Not many people would of considered having the idea of buying a Turtle Beach or Astro headset back in the day. That's just my take on that 4:47
Call of duty ghosts was my best cod. I had Tritton Triggers and was able to hear footsteps very well. I had around 280 kem strikes because of it. People did have headsets, but it wasn't like the current games. Footsteps now control these games, which ruins it for me. It's what I don't like about warzone and the gunfight game mode
1:22 to karmas point. It feels like O-M wasn’t meant for tac sprint. The only issues I find with it, is transitioning from tac sprint to side to side normal sprint
Sbmm question needs to be more specific. The current iteration is ass. Never once heard hecz have a single valid opinion about cod. The fact he even mentions cod2 ever shows he's just a boomer. Best cods were way after even cod 4. Cod2 was ass
13:31 i'm mad no one elaborated about the dynasty. I would've loved to hear their thoughts explicitly on how they compared to the other dynasties. I saw the optic dynasty, but that was 7 years ago
I mean it’s cool but Black Ops 1 and Modern Warfare 2 on rust with the intervention will always be #1. Cookin in the kitchen with some care package out with the commando knife and doing the elevator glitch on Derail. Memories😎
Personally, I don’t think I would have bought the last 5-6 games if I didn’t still keep up with pro cod or watch content creators. I don’t think the game would die but it wouldn’t be what it is without these scenes.
I was never a fan of the jet packs but for me I feel that bo2 was definitely peak cod. I’ve made memorable moments in bo2 than any other cod game I’ve ever played period
Hector takes over the comms WAY too much. You have world champions and guys have have tens of thousands of hours on CoD in there, and yet he still is the loudest in the room. Love Hector but damn man.
Bro, going to be honest the SBMM moment in this video. Let’s talk about it: If you want a “competitive” experience and improve play ranked, GB’s, wagers, or 8’s. As the more I get older I just want to enjoy a franchise I enjoy sit back from my stressful life (I feel like everyone could agree). And let CoD be my escape goat. At my best in CoD it’s when competitive was everything and I was “nasty.” But as time goes on and my interests change I just want to sit back play good a couple games, grind some cameos. And enjoy a franchise I feel in love with like the rest of us did. People could say I’m in those “easy lobbies” I’m on main stage for half a million dollars prize money 300k twitch views on an event. It’s actually insane I have a 1.3 KD those lobbies are easy 2.00+ why am I having to sweat or try so hard just to get so little it is killing the franchise. I don’t ever remember CoD ever being that sweaty as it once was. Back then you got a sweaty match tell me if I’m wrong but it made you want to try even harder and get better?! Having that satisfaction of going insane one game against people that I was once at there skill level. But trying to get better feels like impossible task because you’ll always always get main stage lobbies!….
Couldn't agree more with zin on SBMM back then it felt exactly the same lobbies where you get destroyed amd lobbies where you are destroying just more random
i just got off after two matches because SBMM decided I had to play my mandatory games being the worst player in the lobby. That’s the problem is that sbmm doesn’t solve anything long term. As a player who is mediocre at best with a 1.5 KD sbmm always shoots me back and forth between lobbies where I feel like a sweat and lobbies where I can’t even get off spawn.
CRAZY HOW TIMES CHANGE. Everyone was crying for boots on the ground when we had jet packs and now its the best movement. CoD Devs got a point now imo, imagine trying to please the CoD community LOL
I remember when legit everyone would say "We need boots on the ground to return!" "Jetpacks isn't call of duty" "Jetpacks ruined the gameplay" im sitting there like....jetpacks weirdly might've been the best thing they added to CoD and yall want it gone. Ngl would 1-2 boots games be acceptable....for sure but I feel like the Jetpack era was the second golden era of CoD or at least the tail end of the golden era. We need another game with jetpacks asap.
Like Scump said, microtransactions only become problematic when they give a competitive advantage. Purely cosmetic absolutely it's all up to whether you find it worth it or not.
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Very informative! Looking forward to more ideas from you! 💝🐱
As far as old games with no sbmm they also had years less experience then. now a new players going against ppl w almost 15 years experience playing the same game
Scump saying jetpack cods had the biggest skill gap makes me feel even more shit now. BO3 was the last cod game i was genuinely good at. If the skill gap was actually that big, i would have been getting shit on back then instead of the way im getting shit on now.
You can't even disagree with me.
I agree with this take
Even in the comments he tells truth
COD should’ve never switched to pc to many cheaters to much inconsistent gameplay with players having the best hardware due to follower count and players with low end pcs consoles all hit 120hz and it would eliminate the cheaters from the legit grinders
As a college athlete I'm not arguing that video games take skill, and I'm not great at them, but you saying they're a sport is utterly ridiculous. If you can say competitive chess is a sport I'll give it to you, but that whole micro-transactions cod is a sport??? this whole e-sports thing is nuts. I'm not arguing competitive video games exist, but comparing it to sport bugs me so much.
BO3 goated 👍🏿
JETPACK ERA >>>>>>
Use me as a thumbs up button
mhm
@@OpTicGaminggimme advanced warfare 2😮💨return of the king arc
People hate on infinite warfare but that was the most fun I had only sending to black ops 4
Bro why was I insane at iw 🤣
And years later i am still stuck on stick and move controls
GIVE US ADVANCED WARFARE 2
I remember pros crying for boots on the ground. Now they have nostalgia for jet packs
Wasn’t the pros.., there is always cry baby’s for new cods and I remember tons of fans disliking jet packs because they did it like two years in a row different styles.
it’s because you don’t know what you have until it’s gone. can’t blame them.
Nah 3. Aw bo3 and iw@clarkskents
Only 2 agreed
Boots on the ground in a phone booth. ADHD kids ruined COD.
its always so funny hearing the dialogue about jetpacks now. Back when we were in the jetpack era, everyone in the pro scene was crying to go back to boots on the ground. Now its we need to go back to jetpacks and it was the best.
lol I knew I wasn’t the only one who feels that way
wrong. people didn't like IW so much they wanted BOTG back. however BO3 was BELOVED.
@@auburntigers444 bo3 is beloved because of zombies, not because of multiplayer. The community HATED jetpack cods, including BO3. It was just hated least of the bunch.
People hated AW because it was janky and unpolished. Everyone loved BO3 because it fixed all that. you'll notice that most of the complaints are about the game being bad and not what the game is.
When I rise to power we can have both
The one thing no one ever talks about with SBMM is it ruined the game for friend groups that vary in skill. My whole group stopped playing because playing together was miserable. Good players need to back pack their asses off and the bad players just get destroyed game after game.
This, I just came to cod haven’t played since bo4 and that’s the first thing I noticed, I started out getting carried but once I got used to playing and got good again I was sweating like crazy every game and my homie were bottom frag going negative
That’s not how sbmm works with a party..
I really don't know how this isn't talked about as much as it should be cause it's the only reason I don't play cod anymore.
@@TxSnipes lol every time my friends play with me they complain that the lobbies get insanely harder so idk
@@TxSnipes It is absolutely how it works with a party. No matter how much they try to balance it it always sucks.
Lowkey let's go back to 5v5
who's your 5th?
Who's your 5th hypothetically?
I'd guess either scump or formal @@PlagueFather
@@PlagueFatherCell
Teaser for formal (I’m delusional)
I still play and enjoy CoD now but honestly Blops 2 was peak. Game was great, ranked mode, good camos and the pro scene was electric to watch.
In terms of SBMM - I'm a 33 YO dad and I played against Octane and Nadeshot the first few weeks it came out. Every game I'm in is sweaty af when I'm just trying to get camos. In MW2 there would be just a few games a night where games would be this sweaty.
Omnimovement >>>
Fr
Goat
Movement king has spoken 🙌🏼
Omnimovement lowers the skillgap, making gunfights more randomized. Bo2 had the highest skillgap of any cod.
LET'S GOOO !!
I love how Hector always brings up being super good at the game 😂
hasnt played a cod since host advantage and nobody knew what a headset or back paddles was , of course he was good
skillbase matchmaking in its current state is literally the reason i dont ever play multiplayer. i have 1 good game and for the next 10 matches im against people that are just absolutely way better and try way harder than me in pubs makes it so unfun its horrible
Eomm is the true villain here. The game decides your wins and losses before the game even begins. It’s pretty much a slot machine
@@johnnybaboon8166 What us EOMM ive seen a few people say it but not describe
I definitely got better as a player when sbmm came out. But that was because we didn’t have ranked to play. It would be nice to have regular multiplayer be no sbmm and just make sure every game has ranked going forward
I personally like SBMM because it makes you better. I also try to stay away from the whole "he's only better than me because he's trying his ass off." Not throwing shade at you, that's just geniunely my take.
@@lt8400 Engagement Optimized Match Making, SOME of it is proven, some of it is skeptism. It's the idea that Activision "rigs" games by putting you with better players on other team, bad on your team, bad connection, some people even say skill based damage lol. But it makes you lose more which makes you want to play to make up for losing, kinda like gambling when you chase your losses.
How far back in time was this filmed? They are still talking about the beta lmao 😅😅
Seriously wtf??? No relevance
of course they thought the movement was clunky then, its so much better now
All these past RUclips videos were filmed during the Race.
Well considering Seth's hair is buzzcut, its pretty recent lmao..
Lowkey feel like they delayed posting this because the Adsense is better this month/time of year, compared to when this was filmed
5:36 "Damon I've never left the f***ing game in my f***ing life damon" 🤣🤣 Hector is a foo
Noticed Karma bringing up that they’ve said SBMM is in the older cods and feel the need to bring it up because i think it confuses people.
Feel like this has become a more persistent myth about SBMM/EOMM in older cods. It 100000% did not exist the way it’s described now. It was Score Based Team Balancing. Or better put, if you and another guy stomped the opponents, the game would try to put you on different teams the next game.
The SBMM thing in older cods is something bad players and angry devs have tried to use to gaslight the public by not actually/vaguely describing what was going on then and whats going on now.
This makes so much sense. When Damon said that I was like no fucking way, cus I've been a pubstomper for a while and what he's saying just seems so false. I do remember what ur saying tho where it would always put the 2nd best player in the enemy team
And that old set up created these great little in-lobby rivalries before they would automatically disband lobbies post-game. You’d often have a rival on the other team for a few games and you two would duke it out. I used to love that so so much.
My boy karma checked Hecz real quick 😂 2:10
5:38 Hecz checked him right back lmao 😂
Kenny and hecz need to teach every optic member how to dress up 😂😂
fits good shoe choices are in question here sorry just my opinion what are we going to defend them with they wore that trash for contrast wtf
bro kenny is wearing female pants lol
You need to stop worrying about dumb shit
Damon DOES NOT care lmao
Lowkey, Kenny a top tier addition over this last year of optic. The vet stays true to himself always. So refreshing
0:23 *Respect to Call of Duty WW2* the 2nd Greatest COD of All-time.
One thing no one talks about with SBMM is it doesn’t work when you have friends you play with. Maybe if it was solo queue only
It does though it averages out all of your guys skill and gets you in the highest average sbmm matches
I disagree, when I play solo most of my team doesn’t have hands and the other team is full of gamer fuel sweats.
12:44 the only CoD MP we've ever had made entirely by Raven 👀 makes you wonder....
Scump might be the best ever to play CoD, but holy shit that man gets dressed like he's Helen Keller.
Lmfao fr he needs to let Hecz pick his closet
Grown men that care bout their (and especially other men's) appearance get the side eye from me. That's a female trait.
I fuck with it, especially that space cat shirts he wears
@@ryanaa9321 worrying about another man's outfit is side eye worthy
Who cares
idk why but love seeing Kenny wearing that chain bro
why wasn't one of the questions "Should jetpacks make a return to Call of Duty???" or "Should treyarch remaster bo3?"
getting a pie ad blocker ad on this video while using pie ad blocker is gold
Black ops 2 was first cod with ranked play. It is the staple of call of duty now. COD wouldn’t be the same without bo2 ranked play
It has taken many a year…. But finally the scumperjumper has evolved into the high and mighty, King BigT.
“You will NEVER experience that” - Hecz 😂
I love hearing karma talking about cod I swear when he talks everybody is quiet and listen to him. GO4T !
That Iced T dude a chronic yapper holy shit
The micro transaction round was so disappointing to hear
Dynamic is the wave
We also have to remember that a LOT of people didn't have headsets back then compared to now. Not many people would of considered having the idea of buying a Turtle Beach or Astro headset back in the day. That's just my take on that 4:47
Call of duty ghosts was my best cod. I had Tritton Triggers and was able to hear footsteps very well. I had around 280 kem strikes because of it. People did have headsets, but it wasn't like the current games. Footsteps now control these games, which ruins it for me. It's what I don't like about warzone and the gunfight game mode
The boys talking CoD, having some debates and just having a good time. Great content
Methods and the sly cooper comment is just straight gas. Guy knows his stuff 🔥
The boys have been coming out with banger content on both channels and you absolutely love to see it!!!!!
1:22 to karmas point. It feels like O-M wasn’t meant for tac sprint. The only issues I find with it, is transitioning from tac sprint to side to side normal sprint
This Jubilee style video is tight. Very well done. Loved it
Zin shouting the sly cooper series just made my day. best trilogy of all time
W for zin for the casual player love, thanks.
Is Hecz ever gonna not wear shades 😂
100% agree with Kenny on the 5v5 it was so good to play & watch in BO4, Also specialists were a good addition.
I was hoping to see:
“Current pros are too soft to decide GA’s properly”
AGREE NEUTRAL DISAGREE
I met hecz mom at home depot years back when I worked there. She had an OpTic shirt on. I was a huge fan boy growing up. Cool he's from my area
One thing about what Ken said about the rival, I used the bruen bastion angled grip and it eliminated the visual recoil, oh well. New game now lol
Sbmm question needs to be more specific. The current iteration is ass. Never once heard hecz have a single valid opinion about cod. The fact he even mentions cod2 ever shows he's just a boomer. Best cods were way after even cod 4. Cod2 was ass
13:31 i'm mad no one elaborated about the dynasty. I would've loved to hear their thoughts explicitly on how they compared to the other dynasties. I saw the optic dynasty, but that was 7 years ago
I mean it’s cool but Black Ops 1 and Modern Warfare 2 on rust with the intervention will always be #1. Cookin in the kitchen with some care package out with the commando knife and doing the elevator glitch on Derail. Memories😎
Personally, I don’t think I would have bought the last 5-6 games if I didn’t still keep up with pro cod or watch content creators. I don’t think the game would die but it wouldn’t be what it is without these scenes.
6:14. I was thinking the exact same thing, Sly Cooper goated
u can tell Kenny knew his fit was hard, he moving around fixing his pants ,selves ,walking in place like he at the mall
Big optic hecz is the goat man been around forever and still has dope energy to him
@3:00 -- They should just add the Best Maps into a playlist.
hecz talking over pamaj on the snipers question. like dude we want to hear the god of cod snipers opinion, not the team managers
Hecz Modern Warfare 2 Sniper Montage - November 2009
ruclips.net/video/PhYSitZculA/видео.htmlsi=eItRJlGfwSThTBte
I was never a fan of the jet packs but for me I feel that bo2 was definitely peak cod. I’ve made memorable moments in bo2 than any other cod game I’ve ever played period
No one making an argument for complexity being the best dynasty?
Remember Blackout? I do. F Warzone and every single variation of it that has ever been made.
I normally only watch the podcasts and streams but this was solid content!
Oh and respect to the guy wearing that Goodfellas tee
i love kenny man never let that guy leave optic
Black ops 3 jet packs were insane. Great maps to. Can we get black ops 3 remastered?
Hecz is like a super senior with cod 4 he just won’t let it go😂
New CoD released means yearly check-in on the OpTic boys. Only been 10 years.
LMAO not Damon calling out LG on Fringe specifically
Edit: MORE OF THIS PLS
2012 was prime cod for the sniping community for sure
Bo2 is peak. Peak pubs, peak comp, peak sniping (pre DSR patch).
Hector takes over the comms WAY too much. You have world champions and guys have have tens of thousands of hours on CoD in there, and yet he still is the loudest in the room. Love Hector but damn man.
19:05 someone needs to fill in hector about pred being the king of sound hoarding lmao
SLY COOPER MENTIONED!
Bro, going to be honest the SBMM moment in this video. Let’s talk about it:
If you want a “competitive” experience and improve play ranked, GB’s, wagers, or 8’s. As the more I get older I just want to enjoy a franchise I enjoy sit back from my stressful life (I feel like everyone could agree). And let CoD be my escape goat.
At my best in CoD it’s when competitive was everything and I was “nasty.” But as time goes on and my interests change I just want to sit back play good a couple games, grind some cameos. And enjoy a franchise I feel in love with like the rest of us did.
People could say I’m in those “easy lobbies” I’m on main stage for half a million dollars prize money 300k twitch views on an event. It’s actually insane I have a 1.3 KD those lobbies are easy 2.00+ why am I having to sweat or try so hard just to get so little it is killing the franchise.
I don’t ever remember CoD ever being that sweaty as it once was. Back then you got a sweaty match tell me if I’m wrong but it made you want to try even harder and get better?! Having that satisfaction of going insane one game against people that I was once at there skill level. But trying to get better feels like impossible task because you’ll always always get main stage lobbies!….
I always think jet pack was the best era. People using that jump button and had to work that controller. Still a MW2 guy though.
Couldn't agree more with zin on SBMM back then it felt exactly the same lobbies where you get destroyed amd lobbies where you are destroying just more random
I’m onto you hector I’ve already seen this video, still watched it
“you can say pokémon” thank you pam for being cultured 🤞🏽
i just got off after two matches because SBMM decided I had to play my mandatory games being the worst player in the lobby. That’s the problem is that sbmm doesn’t solve anything long term. As a player who is mediocre at best with a 1.5 KD sbmm always shoots me back and forth between lobbies where I feel like a sweat and lobbies where I can’t even get off spawn.
CRAZY HOW TIMES CHANGE. Everyone was crying for boots on the ground when we had jet packs and now its the best movement. CoD Devs got a point now imo, imagine trying to please the CoD community LOL
Hecz buys physical movie tickets and spits at the idea of a non-gasoline vehicle that gets over 15mpg. 😂😂😂
hecz had to be so high to be wearing sunglasses in a room that dark
I remember when legit everyone would say "We need boots on the ground to return!" "Jetpacks isn't call of duty" "Jetpacks ruined the gameplay" im sitting there like....jetpacks weirdly might've been the best thing they added to CoD and yall want it gone. Ngl would 1-2 boots games be acceptable....for sure but I feel like the Jetpack era was the second golden era of CoD or at least the tail end of the golden era. We need another game with jetpacks asap.
We ain’t ever getting a cod game with that old cod feeling ever again.
"Never left a fucking game in my fucking life DAMON!" 🤣🤣🤣
love how stoned hecz always is, baseline
Definitely need more vids like these
Ghosts is way under appreciated
Ken laughing while hecz talks about cod 2 😂
Og mw3 was the best peak experience period good on you zinny
BO1 AS WELL
Bring back the OG maps man...
brudda is going thru it (understandably)
These new maps for bo6 are SO BAD bro we need an OG MAP UPDATE ASAP
Like Scump said, microtransactions only become problematic when they give a competitive advantage. Purely cosmetic absolutely it's all up to whether you find it worth it or not.
Very informative! Looking forward to more ideas from you! 💝🐱
8:05 the problem is that they buff the gun that they're releasing a skin for
bro kennys pants dope af
Dayum that Sweater or Hoodie what Hecz and Ken wears is sooo nice
Jet packs were the were the worst thing ever.
give props to Zyn for the sick shirt man
i cant he said league of legends was not a franchise league or some shit dude turned his brain off on that one
As a casual gamer that plays when I get home from work. Im taking the best 16 maps
DO NOT GIVE ME THESE NEW MAPS
Thinking that SBMM is good for COD ist ridiculously delusional.
As far as old games with no sbmm they also had years less experience then. now a new players going against ppl w almost 15 years experience playing the same game
Scump saying jetpack cods had the biggest skill gap makes me feel even more shit now. BO3 was the last cod game i was genuinely good at. If the skill gap was actually that big, i would have been getting shit on back then instead of the way im getting shit on now.
Happy to see them giving respect to MW3
Get green tape/line whateverfor agree if there is a second episode which I'd love to see. Great content. Been watching since 2010
Hecz was spot on on the last q