RATH & JORM: Still Strong After These NERFS?! ~ 2024 Class Balance Adjustments
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- Опубликовано: 4 янв 2024
- In this video, we'll take a look at the upcoming skill adjustments and balance tweaks affecting Rathgricy and Jörmungandr.
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hi miss maven! how much dex should i have to counter the casting debuffs? i have boat so i dont put any dex as of now, hope you reply! thank you!
Miss Maven♡
is this implemented already? in sea server?
Rath's nerf is not that hard hit for PVE but it just limits their dominance quiet a little on some instance. Im that not worried though, I alternate Rath and BG on void and weekies so not so much impact on me.
Agreed.. it is only tough when affected by cast delay debuffs, otherwise rathgricy is still very good in PVE..
Hope they will also work on Heinrich.. such a good class but can't be compared to Rath in PVE and instances
How to increase Hit for Rath? I stuck in 434 😭
it was fun when there is no hero class on the game, just the legacy job class, true RO experience
sure, if true ro experience mean be a whale or depend on a RM who are usually whale. with the instance they come out made for whale, i am glad there is a hero class Rath for f2p. it's alot more fun to be able to contribute or even carry than to be carried.
Fala a verdade não adianta colocar classes novas ou nerfa outras, o que precisamos é de balanceamento justo e igualitário entre classes! Ragnarok nunca foi jogo de 1 só jogador, por isso outros trabalhos equilibra os modos que temos hoje em dia. Porque se for para nerfa então não criemos mais classe, mas ajustemos as outras classes que está já em disposição.
Wat stats shld Rath reduce to add 60 dex?
none, we got high stat now from unlocking headgears and class LOL
finally some balancing
If Elga renders other jobs buffs, luna/solar dd, and saint fp as balanced then sure but Rathgricy is so broken lol
i dont care for nerf in pvp or gvg or whatever
but rath nerf in pve is just damn fatal, senile debuff will render them useless like nogu
I'm also a rath user but it seems fair to me.. not really that fatal, just stop casting during sandstorm and time the spirit summoning correctly at the spawn time of HOC..
@@xviian1112It may seem fair to you but that is not what the product they initially started.
Sad😢
They should've nerf rath and done this before. As this class is really dominating both pve and pvp. I'm not against rath but players starting to depend on rath and disregarding other class. ROM is enjoyable as it has variety of job class to choose from as you run dungeons, pve hunts, pvp, but now ROM is becoming more like Rathgricy Online Mobile.
Thats its a problem of dev and not of players. Many people come to this game thinking its like other games saying things like "i will be a super hunter bosses with my assasin class!" or mage class or ill be the the best with my pistol class! Then play and play and play and play and even brave instances cost a lot or even its imposible for this clases unless u are a whale of course. So u always get pushed to play a only fucking specific class to have fun in instances and dont be the same bag on the party that its carried by whales or dont need play more than 2 years to get ur favortite class stronger "enough" to play brave instances of course dying a lot. The same thing pass with nogu but now nobody remember that episode and always saying rath this rath that, its not the job is the absurd development behind and even if u want to be a knight u discover later that is a only whale class. Now everybody its using rath because they can do things that always want to do and more cheaper and easily. Devs said they dont want all classes capable to do instances because all classes have different roles. But this is a rpg u decide the roll of ur character not devs.
I've never said it's the players problem or fault. My point is that rath should've been nerfed, so that other class would still shine. And like you said this is an rpg and players decide what job class to choose, but can't you see how other players be forced to change to rath class as because their previous job class getting disregarded due to being compared to rath, many see rath as an all around job class which kills many job class importance. Why would create such game with variety of job classes but then players would just choose to stick on one same type of class.
@kibafang5749 I totally agree with you. Rath should have already been nerfed, the dynamics of the weeklies became boring and exclusionary (1 Saint, 5 Rath/Genos). Players are complaining about a nerf that isn't that much. What do you guys want? Huge DPS with high HP, self-healing, HP shield and what else? Come on, be reasonable. Every class MUST have at least ONE vulnerability.
Nowadays many people are only accepted into parties because they're one of these two classes (sometimes with weak adv book and gears, but put into 'private' so we can't see), dying quickly and taking up a slot that could be useful with another class. What happened to Nogu, TK, Lightbringer, Arcane Master, Beggeter...?
As you said, soon we'll see a Ragnarok Smash Bros on 6v6:
Genos + Shrek + Rath + Buzzlightyear + Spongebob + Ronin
VS
Jorm + Saitama + Spongebob + Thor + Inuyasha + Thanatos
@@KAIU-ROM yeah, plus this is a mmorpgame which is supposedly enjoyed teaming up with other class/job so you could accomplish something and for me it kills the fun within the game just because it is being dominated by what 1 or 2 job class only.
where does rath dominate in pve hunts?? prior to rath, it was either nogu or depend on a whale. and with the instance they been coming out, nogu wasnt going to cut it anymore...so you want f2p to go back to depending on whale again? i can agree with semi and p2w complaining in pvp so the pvp nerf is fine...but pve..? wth..@_@
bad nerf for valk !!!!! no one can hit the valk 50 % passiv IS TOOOOOO STRONG ( OP
That cast time for blade of order is a pain😂
How many Dex needed to still instacast in ORA after nerf?I only play PVE 😂
Even u added max dex it will not insta cast in ORA, I think you need elf's piccolo to solve that issue
Why nerf Hero Classes when they can buff weaker classes, i changed my Gunslinger to Rath cuz it can't do solo PVE now,
blade of order ct 2 sec? i think thats bad for pve too, its like using doram LCP, bye2 dps
only Nuka, sandstorm, and the totem line will affect you.
Going to be annoying doing Void but then again I play BG too so its still doable.
with all this nerfing, i will slowly leave the game. It was 5 years of gaming greatness. Sadly Dev keep neefing class that i love and not buffing other original class.
Jan:hero classes must have more advantage bcos they are not free.they need jobclass vouchers,it's conditional
implemented na ba ito?
Hindi pa laya nag sibentahan na weapon sa x
Thank you devs for nerfing those cancer jobs😂
Why nerf for pve players, just make this a pvp/gvg nerf.
They did, didnt u watch the video. The only drawback for pve is when u encounter sandstorm on ora, senile in voide, nuka on cml. Dmg not even affected.
its not good, make players disappoint, dev should just give buff to the weaker job to make it balance, not by nerf way, really stupid for making player sad and feel disadvantage 👎👎👎
Totally agree with this.
they buff jour in pve for no reason 🤣
@@putuegaadriantika5459 what do you mean "for no reason?" i use jor mainly for pve and have no issues at all.
@@alkaiserkain no reason buff heroes rn, og class is dead af
@@putuegaadriantika5459 exactly my point. Nerfing is not the best way to balance jobs. What should be done is for og jobs to be adjusted so that they can adapt to the new ones. Progress should be moving forward not backwards and nerfing is a backward way
Dev getting lazy to think solution,
This is a solution, balancing = nerfs and buffs.
All rpg games does balancing
Elf next please. That unstoppable spam of blackhole in war and yoyo is a super pain in d a**.
In ur dreams. Its a p2w class. That classes nevwr get nerfd.
@@_Elvis73 LOL. Even a sh*tty elf (f2p equips and depo) can spam blackhole in war. You got good sh*t man. This class is just plain broken.
Everyone was saying its trash ahaha now its broken LOL
All p2w jobs is untouchable so it's not gonna happen.
Maybe they removed the debuff effect cuz blackhole+dmg is too much
Nerf anti fatal items, skills and relics in gvg/pvp. 1 hit kill class like Saitama and Dragonfist are basically useless due to these.
Nerf all..then u play candy crush???
@@-aCiD_FaCe- hahaha… imagine saitama one punch whole stack dead
Make the hp shield of rath dissapear
Said it with out crying.
They need to make it use all 4 feathers, if less than 4 it shouldn't take effect. That would make the gameplay better makes you think when to use feathers.(Or charging feather from running+sword passive)
adding hero classes to the game was a huge mistake
Hero and collab class ruining the game
true on this.
Tbh players are too much crying babies about this nerf. Not a big deal at all, nowadays ppl only accept Rath/Genos on weeklies, excluding every job class else. Not to mention the "fake Raths/Genos" that only got accepted by being the job, occupying slot of other usefull classes like TK, Nogu ... C'mon.
kinda funny considering how hard spender were crying about it in pvp to get the nerf. What other useful classes do you see doing today instance meant for whale? f2p tk and nogu die off after oracle 9 while the rest of the other classes die before that. you got RM carry and a saint to support while every f2p classes are really just being carried.
@@g2gCthe that's exactly my point. Everyone became TOO DEPENDENT on Rath and all other classes became useless. It's supposed to be a game, to have challenges and difficulties... and nowadays, do you have fun doing the instances? Or are you just looking for a group with 2 Rath/Genos whales to carry you? No class should be broken like this. Imo, the fun of Ragnarok was putting together a group with attack, support, tank, magic classes, and make a strategy to deal with bosses, mobs and dungeons. If a class alone can kill everything without any difficulty... what's the fun in that?
@@KAIU-ROM maybe you forgot but before rath, party was nogu, saint, rm, everyone else who are f2p are really just carry. it's one of the reason i made saint so i dont feel carried. and while i understand you want other classes to be of use, you are trying to take away the few things beside saint class a f2p can use to combat the absurd instance dev been dishing out without fixing what is really broken, the instance made for whale. realistically, name a combination of classes that 6 random f2p can use to beat today instances. unless you can do that, you are really fixing the wrong problem arent you?
@@g2gCthe yes, I remember very well... at the time the instances were Oracle IX, TTL, maybe PML and LIL... PSR and Airship came later, and are very very difficult to complete without one (or two) whales in pt. The problem I point out is the dynamics of the game, it has become one-dimensional, it forces you to create a class you don't want (like Saint or Rath) just to be able to participate. Today we have Taekwon, Nogu, Soulbinder, Lightbringer, Beggeter, Arcane Master, Ninja, Rune Master, Stellar Hunter trapper, Divine Avenger... of course none of these are as OP as Rath or Genos, but some got really cool buffs and I think there could be more powerful combinations to enhance the group's damage and survival, especially with Phantom Equip, Tier V effects, new airship runes... in general the game is cumulative and the class's potential is only reached after investing some time in it, and this becomes unfeasible if we have to set up a new class (like Saint) just to be able to participate instead of being carried.
@@KAIU-ROM i can agree and totally understand. f2p, i see that. the problem stem from the fact that dev create instance meant for whale and force you to either be a whale or be carry. so if going to nerf the only class f2p can somewhat utlize, then instance need to be change too but that is not happening. taking away the only thing f2p can latch on to without changing instance is just forcing f2p to beg for carry once again.
3,578th
Pd still in constant emotional damage
good PD stripper can give lots of emotional damage
Nice nerfs now the pvp/gvg game is kinda balance again. 🎉🎉🎉🎉
"kinda balance again"
If Elga can render Luna/Solar DD and Saint buffs FP useless I guess it really is "balanced" but oh nooo Rathgricy so broken need nerf 🤣
2rd
Sbx still in bottom of the bufflist
What is it to buff with that class, if its not jorm who is top kills in gvg its sbx next. Class that needs buff are those rarely seen played, assasin has been staple in gvg and pvp since day one.
@@tuthy9587 Devs keep adding more dmg but so many skills out there to block melee attacks.. Sbx is still useful only because of support classes..
finalmente vamos voltar a ver outras classes no jogo, tava chato ja jogar rathgrancy online mobile
Jor atleast has limitations, while rath has NONE.. nerf rath more.. Rathnarok
True, even a tank rath can deal substantial dmg, all these whiners probably had that one class that will carry their game in pve and pvp but can't adapt sudden change.
Then be rath. If you cant beat them join them instead of complaining there Dont be stupid
@@kevinperedo841 u want everyone play rath? this is RPG, it wont be if everyone is playing one role because its to OP.
"if you cant beat them join them" that logic is stupid. Devs seldom to nerf class, and when they do..its because class is to broken. Cry me a river, better yet quit rath players
Players who just plays the game with a "free" job class cause its meta then complains when nerf were the stupid ones. To those that don't take well of the nerf is it's just part of balancing, other games do this as well so the character, job class, hero or whatsoever wont be broken or the game itself wont be broken.
@@kevinperedo841 It's still OP even with the nerf, Free edgga, pocarani, unyielding is too much.
Nerf on top of nerf, weren't they the ones who said they weren't going to nerf anymore? They're killing the rest of the game that there is, I've already had 5 friends quit this week, if that's what you wanted, it's working, pushing away more old and new players every day, devs don't know how to balance the other classes and nerf everything, game It's totally dependent on p2w luck, if it were just p2w there's still the problem of you putting money into it and not getting anything haha.
Good luck to whoever stays, I'm leaving, it's been 5 years of the game without any balancing solution, just nerfs haha
balancing solution=nerf.
Where’s hollgrehen buff 😢
Well, it’s time to retire playing this game, due to rath nerf is so annoying. Dev should buff some jobs instead nerf favorites jobs nowdays. That so disapointed
Bye then
Nobody misses or cares if your gone.. So bye.
3rd
The nerf on rath is trash just put 60 dex then you good to go with CT...JORM still JORM....devs is brainless bunch of money 🐷
Stupid. I am all for adjustments for pvp but it should not affect pve. Jor only has the snake form for survivability. Nerfs should not be done since its a band-aid solution only. What should be done is to adjust other classes who say that they are being overwhelmed by these jobs. That is what balance is. Thanos is indeed correct that half the universe should be wiped out because of the stupid mentality of people who could not adapt their playstyle to match the new jobs. All they do is whine and not do tests or experiments to try and even the playing field. Again, its fine if the nerf is for pvp but not for pve.. The root cause of this all is placing a pvp model in the game in the first place when the game should only be purely pve.
Haha nice nerfs now other jobs will shine, keep it coming devs more nerf, Ya'll Rath/Jormu users crying cuz rath got nerfed? Lol its just right to get nerfed, too OP in PVP anyways, plus the game turned into Rathnarok mobile lol
Jorm mains didn't have much whiners when they increase inate aa dmg reduction of players, dropping down the firebreath dmg of jorm to 1/3 than usual, cause they know how broken jorm is, but this rath players keeps on crying over that boo vct. The only class with high Mobility, disarm, consistent dmg output and built in HP block passive. These dingus still think rath don't need nerfs, i say more
Why make even hero class lmao such a trash game. If you gonna nerf then just focus on buffing the original class instead of making bullsht class
Raths need more nerf they should make 4 feather get used at once when receiving fatal dmg(the one that kills you, and make her anti deathblow won't take effect if you have less than 4 feather.) Needs nerf for sure, Rath get free endure(eddga card), free lifesteal(pocarani) and free unyielding relic.
Thats what these rath players keep on whining, before rath, no class can dive in enemy stacks, run arround, killing and disarming people and still made it out alive. Even SBX have of need baby sitter still end up dying after each dive.
They find out a class that can be tanky and dish out tons of dmg, viable for pve and pvp that's hard to counter then cry for minimal nerf. 😂
First
Another classes to shine?? Lmao. Delete hero class and the original class will shine 🤣🤣
Devs should nerf the BG job, so OP
Rom = My hero Acadamia🤣😂 classic Job is now extinct 😅
Fucking hate it, like for no reason 😢
Rath really too op in pvp even build tank can easily kill other dps
they always buff RM and always nerf the other else.. rip rath
What buff rm ??? RM always got nerf, stupidd
u see RM getting Top kills in GVG or MP?
that statement was good 2yrs ago, not anymore, cry rath players
@@tuthy9587 im not rath player tho 🤣
@@tuthy9587oh i never said its about gvg too tho..
@ichieqido7299 Tell me you're never play RM without telling me you're Nogu/Rath Main
To Rath users whining about the nerf. Gitgud, hopefully more nerf to rath coming soon. If u cant handle the nerfs then delete ur rom account and just go play minecraft or codm lol😂
nerfed is not solution lol
Makes me wanna quit, its nit good to hype a heroes then people choose to play it then, nerf it , so dissapointing dev......
Iike mage old school firebolt casting trash dev🤮🤮🤮🤮🤬🤬🤬😡😡
Nobody ask for this nerfs, trash devs
nah remove the immume magic for snakeman is best still magic type is useless agains snakeman
I QUIT!!!! YOU’RE FOOLING PLAYERS AND JUST MILKING US. SHAME ON YOU DEVS
Milking on nerf for free hero class? maybe I forgot to mention "Free"
Bye hahahaha
Good rath is nerf, unskilled and weak players rath gay job for all
Ouch, lots of rath whiners get hit by this statement, 50% if them are fake raths anyway 😂