What is a Certified Chronometer and how accurate is it? - Watch and Learn #32

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  • Опубликовано: 28 сен 2024

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  • @imranchowdhury4972
    @imranchowdhury4972 7 лет назад +46

    After watching for 5 years I finally found one video that explains accuracy and COSC issue most simpler. Lastly the Sinn accuracy surprised me astonishingly and totally changed my concept of accuracy. A big thanks Marc for this great video and your academic knowledge is far more impressive than any other watch guys in you tube. Long live and teach us more. Once again thanks and love from Bangladesh.

    • @islandwatch
      @islandwatch  7 лет назад +5

      Thanks so much for watching!

  • @ennigmaa
    @ennigmaa 7 лет назад +11

    Your videos are so much more informative and to the point without any drama, dogs, animation and meaningless adjectives to describe the watch. You deserve far more subs.

    • @islandwatch
      @islandwatch  7 лет назад +1

      We will get there, thank you!

  • @pjrive6668
    @pjrive6668 6 лет назад +5

    I have an SEIKO SKX007 and it's makes -7 seconds per Day with heavy use, i go dancing and Mountainbiking 4 times a week and i am REALLY really amazed with this watch. Greetings from Costa Rica.

    • @itsallrobbish
      @itsallrobbish 5 лет назад

      Pj Rive a legendary timepiece

    • @EvilUnderTone
      @EvilUnderTone 3 года назад

      I have adjusted Seiko Presage 6L35 to within a couple of seconds per day. Very under rated brand still. I'd like to see a $500 Rolex that can keep up with a Seiko personally :)

  • @hectordemarchena4414
    @hectordemarchena4414 7 лет назад +3

    Mark, that was a fantastic video. This series of yours should be required watching for anyone trying to get into the world of watches. Thank you for doing it!
    Hector

  • @Tom_H327
    @Tom_H327 2 года назад +2

    Marc truly is a smart man. I've learned a lot. The amazing thing is ; as a watch enthusiast, I didn't know I needed to know these things until Marc told me about them. 😂😉🤣

  • @johnatkinson5693
    @johnatkinson5693 2 года назад +1

    Thanks for a very informative video. My Vostoks run at about a minute fast or slow a week ,but I still love them and adjust them accordingly as we all do who have Mechanical watches?

  • @mayankkaloni
    @mayankkaloni 7 лет назад +3

    Great video. Although it's a shame that chronometer settings don't hold over time. It is understandable since we are dealing with mechanical watches. But then it raises the question that do we need to spend extra for these chronometers to begin with as they will eventually lose the accuracy. And as mentioned even a regular watch can be serviced to chronometer standard.

    • @georgiivanov61
      @georgiivanov61 7 лет назад +1

      What do you mean? You are spending extra for the supreme engineering, time spent and attention to detail.
      If you want value for money, just get a $10 digital Casio with chronograph, timer, perpetual calendar, calculator and a light that's almost bright enough to be used as a flashlight in the dark lol.

  • @SaturnNyne
    @SaturnNyne 3 года назад +1

    I'm starting to think of your titles as click-wait, instead of click-bait: unlike everyone else on youtube, you consistently under-sell and over-deliver.
    I kept seeing this and thinking, "I don't need to spend 23 minutes watching a video about how accurate chronometers are," but, as usual, your detailed description of the history and testing was fascinating beyond what the title promised.

  • @dennisalonso1029
    @dennisalonso1029 7 лет назад +4

    Great video. Just enough technical info to explain things without getting into the weeds.

    • @islandwatch
      @islandwatch  7 лет назад +1

      Thanks; I try to keep it light.

  • @Klizzix
    @Klizzix 7 лет назад +4

    great work on all these videos, helping me to get started with automatic watches. much love from germany

  • @sarfarazshaikh771
    @sarfarazshaikh771 7 лет назад +6

    Again with a great informative video, really appreciate for giving the knowledge in the simplest form for a lay man understanding. Thanks mark n Keep it up.

  • @gregalonzo747
    @gregalonzo747 6 лет назад +2

    I picked up a Certina Quartz Chronometer while on business in Europe. This is a fantastic time piece. I prefer quartz when I am working. Can you recommend a German quartz Chronometer? If any.

  • @Resolute900
    @Resolute900 Год назад

    Just discovered your channel and now a new subscriber.
    Thank you very much for sharing your knowledge, passion and expertise on the subject.

  • @Patrick_B687-3
    @Patrick_B687-3 7 лет назад +1

    I've never been lucky enough to have a Rolex, or any other that ran +\- 2 new or otherwise. Great video Marc, so thanks for making it. I appreciate it, and realize it's an old standard, but I switch so often it really doesn't matter, but I don't get worried about it until something is pretty far out of range.

  • @royaguirre551
    @royaguirre551 5 лет назад +1

    Great video very informative. I had a bad experience with a Rolex watch and I wanted to see what is wrong with those watches. I got a new Rolex date just 2019, it gains time every day. 13.5 seconds every 72 hours. In 3 months of wearing it without adjusting the time it gain 7 minutes. Worth it? I don't thinks so. I don't wear it anymore. I just cant trust an overvalue brand that cant keep time right.

  • @lehtosneva9512
    @lehtosneva9512 6 лет назад +1

    Another great video. I really enjoy watching these. Keep up the good work!

  • @matthewhoover6154
    @matthewhoover6154 5 лет назад +1

    I have a chrono certificate from COSC but they didn't write any numbers on it. It came with the Tissot that says "Chronometer" on it, so I assume they certified it, but idk why the certificate would be blank.

  • @philrodriguez558
    @philrodriguez558 7 лет назад +35

    I love your videos ! It is like having my own horology classes ! Thanks again !

  • @nrs6956
    @nrs6956 5 лет назад +1

    Thank you. Good explanation. Is it possible to adjust the quartz movement for accuracy?

  • @pierrezapata90
    @pierrezapata90 6 лет назад

    This video is phenomenal. Thank you so much for making a video like this. It is so informative and I love show you show your own test in real time

  • @neilpiper9889
    @neilpiper9889 5 лет назад

    I have a vintage chrometer. It's a Vostok Volna 2809 Precision from the 1950s. It's a homage to the 1948 Zenith 135. How the Soviets got the design is shrouded in mystery. No paperwork but it still keeps within 5 seconds per day.
    I have a Seagull m171s which has the Triovis Precision adjustment system in the movement. This is the more robust system than the Etachron used by the Swiss. My Seagull keeps within 2 to 3 seconds per day. You could do a video on the Triovis and Etachron systems and their relative merits.

  • @TheWayofGrace89
    @TheWayofGrace89 7 лет назад +2

    Rolex continues to surprise me.. I always wondered why they cost so, so much more than other similar pieces. It's becoming a clearer picture.. awesome

  • @hendimam525
    @hendimam525 7 лет назад

    Hey Marc,
    first of all thank you for your expertise!
    I learned a lot from your vids.
    Nice that you mention at the end that it has'nt got to be a chronometer certified watch in terms of accuracy!
    I own a Sinn Aquis date with the Sellita SW 200-1.
    At the moment it runs +/- 1 sec per day!
    It's all about regulation ;-)
    Greetings from Germany

  • @Billthesheepdog
    @Billthesheepdog 7 лет назад +4

    Marc? What was the third watch you put on the time grapher? Seems a very interesting company if they build such capable watches.

  • @greghemlock6679
    @greghemlock6679 5 лет назад

    My steinhart in the 5th position gains 6 sec day crown up is 3 sec a day wound once a day out of rotation. Worn it deviates between 3 to 6 per day occasionally plus 7.
    Regularly wearing it seems to hold better a accuracy.
    Now pretty regularly resting it between wearing the seconds seem to be reproduced very well. So even though not cosc standards I would say its reasonably accurate but highly precise since reproduced times are constant if I have that correct.
    Cosc as I see it is a repeatable standard for certification.
    I'm familiar with this methodology because we use standards like this in analytical chemistry on geologic samples showing how much of an element like mercury will come out of an environmental sample treated for stabilization prior to landfill.
    Per EPA standards TCLP
    We agitate a 20 gram sample for 16 hours in a water solution spiked with inorganic acids to 5.7 pH then the resultant tested solvent has to be below 5ppb Hg mercury or other levels for other substances before it can be land filled. This TCLP test toxic caracteristic leaching procedure is supposed to emulate rainfall for 16 hours through the landfill.
    5.7 is the natural pH of rain water.
    Yes Virginia ALL rainfall is acidic due to carbonic acid in the atmosphere.

  • @abderrahmanelarchi
    @abderrahmanelarchi 7 лет назад +3

    Great video Marc as usual

  • @stationplaza4631
    @stationplaza4631 2 года назад

    The Yachtmaster is the star of this show...Love it !

  • @giannmilanista
    @giannmilanista 7 лет назад

    Excellent job as always, Mark! -GCR

  • @waterdawg08
    @waterdawg08 7 лет назад

    Why do i feel just a little smarter after watching this ? 😁 great video Marc..

  • @igorcicala7
    @igorcicala7 4 года назад +2

    My Longines automatic watch runs + 1-2 sec/ day without any kind of certifications :)

  • @masonsimon9172
    @masonsimon9172 5 лет назад +11

    This man is a mix of Mr. Bean and Charlie Sheen

    • @SaturnNyne
      @SaturnNyne 3 года назад

      With a bit of Victor Mature too.

  • @sanjursan
    @sanjursan 7 лет назад +12

    Dang, I love that Sinn!

    • @islandwatch
      @islandwatch  7 лет назад +1

      Me too; it's a brick.

    • @Billthesheepdog
      @Billthesheepdog 7 лет назад

      Yeah. cant beat 'shack' for time hack! 00, wow.

    • @ХристоМартунковграфЛозенски
      @ХристоМартунковграфЛозенски 6 лет назад

      I just love how it keeps showing 0 sec/day AND no beat error whatsoever !!! Amazing !

    • @Kafen8d
      @Kafen8d 5 лет назад

      It isn't running at all, that's why it hits 0 across the board

    • @Kafen8d
      @Kafen8d 5 лет назад

      @@ХристоМартунковграфЛозенски that's actually because it isn't running at all. Watch the hands, no movement

  • @jasonwb6884
    @jasonwb6884 4 года назад

    Marc, a question you might able to answer. Are all chronometer movements top movements. Top movements being decorated and better parts like shock protection (incabloc) and better hair spring (nivarox). And what do you think about omegas meta certified process.

  • @yusufshittusarumi3623
    @yusufshittusarumi3623 6 лет назад +1

    Please how to reset 24h on edifice Casio watch ef 554

  • @fabriziodutto7508
    @fabriziodutto7508 4 года назад

    Wow! The seiko monster orange! I badly need one :-( Thank you so much for your videos, all very informative!!

  • @nrs6956
    @nrs6956 3 года назад

    Highly informative review. Many thanks.

  • @OscarRPalma
    @OscarRPalma 3 года назад

    What about the omega METAS master chronometer? In which category will fall?

  • @edwardblack7133
    @edwardblack7133 6 лет назад

    Hi MArc...can you use that equipment to check a spring drive accuracy? I was thinking the machine uses a microphone checking the escapement so it wouldnt work with the spring drive?

  • @nevahenuf
    @nevahenuf 7 лет назад

    Any plan to do a video on atomic syncing or even GPS watches? That's kind of the other technical extreme of accurate timekeeping.

    • @islandwatch
      @islandwatch  7 лет назад +1

      I guess it's possible, though is it interesting? Not many people would get the circuitry (me included!)

  • @richardprice7763
    @richardprice7763 5 лет назад

    My Christopher Ward Trident COSC chronometer (ETA 2836) started losing 8 seconds per day after I took it swimming for the first time. Very odd as it's less than six months old. It's back at CW at the moment under their 5 year movement warranty....

  • @nunomc2815
    @nunomc2815 7 лет назад +1

    This is a Swiss Standard, right Marc ? Is there any equivalent standard for japanese fine wristwatch industry ? I know all mechanical GS exceed COSC requirements, but can they, as a japanese brand, require a COSC certification ?

    • @zeroman614
      @zeroman614 7 лет назад +1

      ISO standards are international accepted quality standards. ISO regulates quality standards for nearly every area of industry/production.

    • @islandwatch
      @islandwatch  7 лет назад +1

      The Swiss one is the most recognized. If you go to Wikipedia, they talk about others. But, technically, only those certified by COSC can carry the Chronometer mark.

    • @arupian666
      @arupian666 6 лет назад +1

      After the Swiss got all pissy with Seiko for using the Chronometer label on their watches and sent Seiko a strongly worded cease and desist letter, I believe that a Japanese association was formed for independant testing to chronometer standards. I think it went kaput at some point though.
      You're right. Grand Seiko 9F series movements must achieve -3/+5 seconds/day in order to pass inspection. In 6 positions. As unnatural (as Marc said) it may be, Seiko believe that it should still be part of the testing procedure.
      My Grand Seiko runs about 2 seconds fast/day. Actually, my SARB035 runs to better than COSC standards.

  • @nigellacey559
    @nigellacey559 5 лет назад +1

    Fascinating

  • @robertbeucler4804
    @robertbeucler4804 7 лет назад

    Thx Marc! Do you anticipate carrying any chronometers in the future?

    • @islandwatch
      @islandwatch  7 лет назад

      I have in the past, so I wouldn't rule it out.

  • @daleschmidt7157
    @daleschmidt7157 7 лет назад

    Plus or minus x seconds per a given time period are not always additive; they can be subtractive. So a COSC mechanical movement could hold time to within a few seconds per month or per quarter or.....etc.

  • @talega1
    @talega1 Год назад

    How do they power the mechanical......one winding per 24hrs?? how many times......this is probably the greatest variable.

  • @ashleyb66
    @ashleyb66 7 лет назад

    So, if someone in 2017 is selling say a vintage watch with an ETA movement that was once COSC certified, does that mean the seller could ask for a bigger price? In other words, am I correct in thinking that what distinguishes a COSC movement is the adjustment/regulation process it goes through and not the movement per se?

    • @islandwatch
      @islandwatch  7 лет назад

      It's the testing it undergoes; but if its vintage, it's probably out of COSC specs by now.

    • @ashleyb66
      @ashleyb66 7 лет назад

      Long Island Watch. Understand. So the stamping on the dial of a Rolex "superlative chronometer" is a time sensitive state. In other words Rolex assumes you will get it back to COSC once it falls out of accuracy. I can't believe that every Rolex owner with a "superlative chronometer" stamped on the dial would be sending their watch back to the Swiss for re-Coscing...😵😵😵😵

  • @melchizedekpsj
    @melchizedekpsj 7 лет назад

    Thanks for the video! Very informative!

  • @bernardocourrege6283
    @bernardocourrege6283 7 лет назад

    Excellent Marc!

  • @istvantoth7431
    @istvantoth7431 4 года назад

    Yep, Longines Hydroconquest Quartz movements are black-belt ... 7 jewel high quality ETA movements ...

  • @SuperWahidul
    @SuperWahidul 4 года назад

    mark please review a seiko Irish coffee limited edition watch,tq

  • @AlTheEngineer
    @AlTheEngineer 7 лет назад

    Hey Mark! Thanks for the video, I have a certified chronometer (an Omega Sea Master Ploprof 1200) from 2012 and right now it is always doing -2 seconds a day no matter what position I put it in, it never does any positive time, it always does minus 2 seconds. I tried to set it on the table in all different positions over night and it's always the same outcome. Does that mean it needs to be serviced? It has a caliber 8500.

    • @islandwatch
      @islandwatch  7 лет назад +1

      It's operating well within spec; but you can just regulate it up a bit.

    • @AlTheEngineer
      @AlTheEngineer 7 лет назад

      It's just interesting to me that it's always -2 regardless of position. But you are right it is well within spec, I might ask my local watch maker to regulate it for me when I pass by there. Thanks for the video as always, extremely informative!

    • @tayyabpirzada146
      @tayyabpirzada146 7 лет назад +1

      -2 is insanely good timekeeping

    • @AlTheEngineer
      @AlTheEngineer 7 лет назад

      Yes, it is! I am just concerned that it is always -2 regardless of the position, it never goes positive (to cancel out the error for example), and I think with a bit of regulation I can get it to even do better!

  • @larryscott3982
    @larryscott3982 4 года назад

    I guess I’m lucky. My Rolex 1570 gains a couple while wearing, loses a couple at night, and 6 months later it was spot on without setting or winding.

  • @mikewysko2268
    @mikewysko2268 5 лет назад

    Vert interesting. Thanks Mark.

  • @Billthesheepdog
    @Billthesheepdog 7 лет назад

    Marc, My Omega and Tudor Pelagos will track at 1 to 3 seconds minus daily if left tosit face up and not worn. If I wear either for all day or all night they will not be that great on hack. I assume it is normal to see COSC timepieces wander like this when worn all night? I sleep with a watch on sometimes. Sometimes a Gshock sometimes my new pretties. This is OK I assume?

    • @islandwatch
      @islandwatch  7 лет назад

      They should keep great time in all positions and all combinations thereof.

    • @Billthesheepdog
      @Billthesheepdog 7 лет назад

      well they are both new... should I talk to the dealers for a look see? strange that both would do it. Both are less than 2 months old.

  • @jhstylewon1172
    @jhstylewon1172 3 года назад

    My Tissot Seastar 1000 is running at -2/day. I'm so lucky.

  • @jasonwb6884
    @jasonwb6884 4 года назад

    I bought a Ball engineer 2 skindiver, 2824-2 chronometer grade, decorated. Tritium glass tubes, sapphire protected bezel. Real good looking watch. I'm loving it. Got a deal on it too. $1,700. Also has an amazing bracelet.

  • @MrSloika
    @MrSloika 3 года назад

    That 12 year old Rolex needs more than just a 'tweak' . When a mechanical watch gets to the 4-5 year mark....any mechanical watch, including Rolex...the lubricants in the movement are broken down and dried out. Don't be tempted to open up the back and hose it down with WD-40 either...yes watch owners have done that...even with Rolex. Srsly, don't do that. Once the lubricants are dry, the only thing that will bring the watch back is to have it fully serviced. Full movement service starts with having the movement fully disassembled. Next the parts are placed into a special cleaning solution and spun around in watch parts cleaning machine. The parts are dried and then reassembled, lubricated with special watch oils that cost $30 for a couple of millilitres and then regulated. The serviced movement is then cased, the old gaskets replaced and the case is tested for leaks. When dealing with Rolex it's best to have the watch sent back to an authorized Rolex service center. Only an authorized Rolex service center can obtain genuine parts if any are needed. Servicing a Rolex with non-Rolex parts will greatly diminish the value of the watch. None of this comes cheap. The average Rolex service is around $800 assuming that no new parts are needed outside of gaskets. Skipping the service will result in more than a watch that no longer keeps good time. Once the lubricants are dry, the parts in the movement will wear at an accelerated rate causing damage. Genuine Rolex replacement parts cost an astronomical amount. Not only does Rolex cost a lot to obtain, it costs a lot to maintain. It's like having a supermodel girlfriend on your wrist.

  • @jazz1ba
    @jazz1ba 4 года назад

    My Certina DS Action Powermatic80 is running -3 secs a day.

  • @Leptospirosi
    @Leptospirosi 7 лет назад

    Great video!

  • @Bhatakti_Hawas
    @Bhatakti_Hawas 7 лет назад

    So what is the Geneve Seal ??

    • @islandwatch
      @islandwatch  7 лет назад

      A higher echelon of watchmaking; it's not just accuracy.

  • @thermionic1234567
    @thermionic1234567 6 лет назад +1

    What’s a Perlative Cerenometer?

  • @carmadme
    @carmadme 3 года назад

    The 6r15d in my seiko runs perfect during the day at work it looses time to about 3-4 seconds at rest after work it gains what it lost going to about + 2-3/d

  • @KRW628
    @KRW628 7 лет назад

    very informative

  • @rocketman1058
    @rocketman1058 3 года назад +3

    just buy quartz, it will blow the "Certified Chronometer" away

  • @EddyWoon
    @EddyWoon 7 лет назад

    Great presentation and explanation!
    I may have to invest in a chronometer when I am adding more mechanical pieces to my collection.

  • @Kafen8d
    @Kafen8d 5 лет назад

    You forgot to wind that watch at the very end. 0 across the board tends to happen when the watch isn't running at all

  • @nayanmipun6784
    @nayanmipun6784 3 года назад

    Cover on watches with longest batteries

  • @bobbydazzler1780
    @bobbydazzler1780 4 года назад

    New gen 3235 in my Rolex Datejust 41 settled to +1s/day on the wrist. Workhorse 3135 in my ceramic Rolex Submariner +3s/day. Rotary Cambridge Miyota +8s/day.
    The new generation Rolex movements are the most accurate, reliable mass produced engines in existence. And the minimum 70 hours power reserve is just ridiculous. But such micro engineering costs. But what’s even more outstanding is the performance of a mechanical watch which cost me 150 bucks. 56 seconds gained over 604,800 in a week. +0.00926% variance per week. For peanuts... discuss...

    • @accuracychannel.7242
      @accuracychannel.7242 4 года назад

      just +2 seconds in a whole month! My 3235 is +18 per month. consider this ruclips.net/video/X_RJu14k_i0/видео.html

  • @nickg2954
    @nickg2954 7 лет назад

    Great Vid!!Do u wanna sell that Breitling?

    • @islandwatch
      @islandwatch  7 лет назад

      I bought it used years ago; I love it. NOPE!

    • @nickg2954
      @nickg2954 7 лет назад

      Long Island Watch lol..I hear ya!I wouldn't either.. Beautiful Piece!!

  • @Jimfrenchde
    @Jimfrenchde 4 года назад

    Can an atomic watch be certified as an atomic watch?

    • @TheHobbyist412
      @TheHobbyist412 2 года назад

      Only if it can withstand 16 days in the core of a nuclear reactor!

    • @Jimfrenchde
      @Jimfrenchde 2 года назад

      @@TheHobbyist412 I really meant can an atomic watch be certified as a chronometer?

  • @kdesjarlais8200
    @kdesjarlais8200 3 года назад

    Very knowledgeable no doubt, but in the end if you want accuracy buy a proper quality solar quartz , no horological significance but you’ll be on time to watch marks vids

  • @HHIto
    @HHIto 2 года назад

    I'm 70+ y/o, my Rolex is 35+ y/0 still keeps COSC time. Seiko, Heuer, Omega (Semaster 1965), all others either breakdown or keep inaccurate time. In life, ask why am I doing this? Rolex is one of the few sure things. Buy one & keep it in tune. Death, taxes, Rolex.

  • @totisanchez3607
    @totisanchez3607 5 лет назад

    Two thumbs up !

  • @lenpowell6647
    @lenpowell6647 6 лет назад +2

    Engineers rule and always will!

  • @jazzman5598
    @jazzman5598 3 года назад

    👍

  • @tayyabpirzada146
    @tayyabpirzada146 7 лет назад

    Wow...a Rolex is really something

  • @itsallrobbish
    @itsallrobbish 5 лет назад

    Superb video, check the Sinn out, haha!

  • @maxprivus
    @maxprivus 5 лет назад

    Be warned that some China based brands will use 'chronometer' in their descriptions and even on the dials of models that are not verified chronometers. So if you see an inexpensive 'chronometer' online from a brand you don't recognize, do some homework before buying it.

  • @crobulari2328
    @crobulari2328 7 лет назад

    Your Timegrapher is far more accurate than a mech :Rolex. !!. The Timegrapher has a crystal oven. Stable crystal temperature. and is timed by the atomic clock !!". So my 1900 says anyway. My Grandsons Longines keeps time to -2 to +2 Sec`s daily.at the moment. The Best mech: watch in the house. The best is a Pulsar Quartz of course. My old Dads 1949 Certina keeps around 12 Secs daily but is a little erratic (-6 to +12) on the wrist !. Cleaned, degaussed and timed it recently. Not bad eh!.

    • @islandwatch
      @islandwatch  7 лет назад

      Not bad at all, thanks for sharing.

  • @jamesg.hromnak2333
    @jamesg.hromnak2333 2 года назад

    🍀👍🍀🤔

  • @Fadernfather
    @Fadernfather 15 дней назад

    🚓

  • @hamed8555
    @hamed8555 7 лет назад

    here is the 10th coment

  • @tomasinacovell4293
    @tomasinacovell4293 7 лет назад

    Stop it with all them negative waves about the timegrapher!

  • @inregionecaecorum
    @inregionecaecorum 7 лет назад

    It is pretty much a social and an economic/commercial construction rather than any scientific statement of accuracy. A restricted practice rather than a universal standard.

    • @islandwatch
      @islandwatch  7 лет назад

      That's not true. It's held to an ISO standard, which is exactly what scientific is.

    • @inregionecaecorum
      @inregionecaecorum 7 лет назад

      Nothing wrong with an international standard, but a standard that has to be verified by only one institution in one country is what I call restrictive, it does not guarantee that there are not watches out there which can be regulated to just as accurate. Restricting the usage of the word chronometer to signify a watch certified by COSC means the word acts more like a trademark than anything else.

  • @AH-yg2dj
    @AH-yg2dj 4 года назад

    Using a vostok with -2 +6 seconds AN HOUR! 😂

    • @jazz1ba
      @jazz1ba 4 года назад

      It cant run -2 +6 an hour.

  • @inregionecaecorum
    @inregionecaecorum 7 лет назад +2

    "When people wanna watch thats got guaranteed accuracy, you have to buy" .... Quartz.

    • @islandwatch
      @islandwatch  7 лет назад +1

      True!

    • @repo4
      @repo4 7 лет назад +2

      inregionecaecorum that's what I thought for 20 years before I got bored with quartz and switched to automatics. At the moment I have a Seiko SNK803 which is consistently plus 0.3s a day. Better than quartz.

    • @itsallrobbish
      @itsallrobbish 5 лет назад

      I have one of the original G Shocks, bought in 1984, never serviced, it’s brilliant, but it’s not accurate at all for a quartz, about a minute fast per 3 months.

  • @gregalonzo747
    @gregalonzo747 5 лет назад +4

    Another informative video. FYI, Certina has a quartz chronometer. I bought one for my father.

  • @defensemen16
    @defensemen16 7 лет назад +9

    Marc you guys need to cut a deal with Sinn! Watchbuys prices are outrageous

    • @islandwatch
      @islandwatch  7 лет назад +7

      Contact Sinn on my behalf. I tried to talk to them at Basel but they only want to deal with WB.

  • @JunkfoodZombieGuns
    @JunkfoodZombieGuns 6 лет назад +3

    Is that Sinn at the end of the video a mechanical or a quartz? Can you even use that timegrapher on a quartz? Thanks.

    • @rageshgr
      @rageshgr 5 лет назад

      It's mechanical. Valjoux 7750

  • @hocklaikhor8353
    @hocklaikhor8353 7 лет назад +4

    i had been wrong all this while. i thought chronometer = chronograph. Tks Marc! Now i know better.

  • @RSVTuono
    @RSVTuono Год назад +1

    Q: Why in the heck is the standard +6/-4 and not +5/-5?

  • @richardtwyning
    @richardtwyning 4 года назад +1

    Just discovered your videos and loving them. I was looking around for information as I'm honoured that my wife just bought me an Omega Seamaster Chronograph for my 50th birthday. Although, I still love my Citizen Skyhawk and my Citizen Divers watch :-) P.S. as of 2020, Omega don't supply the certificate, but on their web site you can obtain the test information, which I must get round to doing.

  • @donp2166
    @donp2166 6 лет назад +1

    Does the accuracy standard tend to successfully make the jump from the movement testing out in controlled lab conditions, to a finished, encased watch with face and hands, on a live, active end user?

  • @lenpowell6647
    @lenpowell6647 6 лет назад +4

    This is pure porn! I thank you?! Len

  • @gtgene
    @gtgene 4 года назад +1

    Thanks for this video, Marc. Do automatic movements drift so many seconds in one direction like a quartz watch, or drift plus or minus depending on position?

  • @True-os6tg
    @True-os6tg 6 лет назад +1

    Great stuff .Up until a few weeks ago I'd stopped wearing watches completely and had zero interest
    Then I decided to look into a new dive watch and entered a rabbit hole that dont ever want to leave and your videos are a massive part of that as take things to another level in detail .Still have nt made my main purchase but have bought 3 other watches in the meantime and the knowledge I 'm gaining is great and a lot of fun too .When you have guys like you ,just one more watch ,urban gentry and timeteller the love and enthusiasm comes thru to the viewer and now I'm in love with watches too .Priceless.

    • @itsallrobbish
      @itsallrobbish 5 лет назад

      True2022 brilliant, you’ve picked the best reviewers, right there!

  • @generaldestruction3084
    @generaldestruction3084 6 лет назад +1

    Thumbs up man awesome videos you put out I find myself getting lost in watching so many of them. The watch and learn series is awesome I’ve learned a ton from watching them. I wear a Seamaster 300m I wanted the Speedmaster but I wear mine day in and out running heavy equipment and the Speedmaster just had more than I need. Keep up the good work!

  • @marknocbogataj9753
    @marknocbogataj9753 2 года назад

    Are you sure you can bring a Seiko movement to COSC? I think they only do the Swiss-made mechanisms.

  • @SANDHU_PB02_RANGARH
    @SANDHU_PB02_RANGARH 3 года назад

    Certina ds action diver quartz is cosc certified ( chronometer)

  • @lidijabacic8348
    @lidijabacic8348 Год назад

    😂 what a load of bs. i thought chronometer was a thing.