The whole final fantasy VII lore is convoluted as fuck. I understand if you don't understand the plot of this game. If you haven't play from before crisis to doc and also read the novels you won't understand anything..
Miguel Marques I agree based on what Rufus told Cloud in advent Children Rufus: I acknowledge that Shinra owes the planet a lot. It goes without saying that my company and I are the ones who put the world in the sorry state it’s in. Therefore, it’s our responsibility to set things right.
Eh, I'd give some credit to Azul and Shelke, since they give off a vibe of SOLDIERs who were experimented on to push them to some pretty big extremes. Even their outfits are pretty normal compared to their peers (Azul is just REALLY DAMN BUFF, and Shelke is just wearing an extra armor pad on her chest). That, and Azul's Behemoth form is pretty slick.
Don't give 2 fucks what anyone says, this game was awesome through and through. Good story, had a Metal Gear Solid feel with the main bosses and even Weiss as Liquid, smooth gameplay ( people who say the gameplay was terrible are just bad, not liking the play style and hating on it due to "bad mechanics" aren't the same. For a 3D Action Shooter the machinists are more smooth than they've been in their recent Action RPG's ) It expanded on a story we all wanted to know more about and made our main character Vincent fucking Valentine, there's really nothing to hate. Come at me.
I mean I REALLY enjoyed it. It was a HUGE change of pace for Final Fantasy that which we have never seen again. What's wrong with changing things up and going 3rd person shooter. Hell Yakuza did it (with zombies lol). Would have loved to see the continuation of all that. I mean I rather play this again than any of the Final Fantasy 13s or 15.
I remember renting this and beating it over a weekend back when it came out, and I remembered N O T H I N G from it. Too many random-ass new characters, plot threads and groups that the game just treats like "oh, yeah they were here this whole time, and we definitely didn't just make them up for the sake of only this one game"
They were if you read the lore & Ultimania books but otherwise yeah it's hard to follow the story. I have to say though it is one hell of an epic. Nomura was kind of pushing FF7 stuff into Kingdom Hearts for a bit there until they greenlit the new series of games Remake, Reunion, Rebirth, and likely ReGenisis being the last game... I think ultimately somehow they will make it to where Sephiroth, after essentially erasing the orig timeline using the Lifestream (memories) with Jenova's powers, will return to a state of semi-sanity to help end what project G started with the new games and Genisis/Wiess as the true ultimate evil the reunited team needs to defeat. Because if you recall from Crisis Core Genisis sent Sephiroth into a spiral of madness. IMO it could be a really cool epic wrap up of the entire series about 20 years after it was started.
I can't be the only one that really likes Yuffie. At first I hated her and thought she was nothing but a pointless fanservice character. When she said she couldn't sympathize with Barret at the monorail station I thought she was an utter bitch. But as the game delved into her character and personality I learned to like her more. The Wutai arc made me see her as a person instead of a fan service device and the cloister of trials in the Wutai tower made me realise what a competent fighter she is. In Dirge of Cerberus I respected and liked her even more. Now she's one of my favorite characters and I genuinely believe there will never be anyone like her because she's just that good and unique. Life is strange that way.
+♞ Go Fuck Yourself ♞ I love Yuffie. She's way cooler than Aerith and Tifa. She has a much more vibrant personality, cooler weapon, interesting side story. Yuffie rules. I think she's one of the most fleshed out characters in the FF7 series.
A long time ago I thought she was just a gag character - but the Wutai arc convinced me that she was a warrior. For that she was picked to help Cloud and Tifa on the final boss.
one of my theorys is that "Jenova" is a "weapon" from another planet. Very similar to how "Omega" is suppose to take life to another planet, I think Jenova could be a similar "weapon" from another planet. I love the lore of this Final Fantasy game above all others.
+Bobby Keating I used to wonder if Jenova was a female version of Lavos' species from Chrono Trigger. It's probably just hapenstance, but since I played CT after I had played FF7, it made sense to me at the time. They both basically do similar things - crash on a planet, bust up the place, and then Lavos spawned some seedlings in the far future and basically the planet died. Jenova is basically doing something similar. Sephiroth says in Advent Children that Jenova's cells were basically toxic or a virus in the Lifestream, and that she was "girdling it, choking it", planning to use the Planet as a vessel to travel to yet another world. ...while this is different than the shelled Lavos, which had no trouble traveling through interstellar space, Jenova might have lost her shell in her fierce battle/clash with the Cetra, or maybe the females of the species don't have them (like some kinds of insects and such where the males and females are very different.) Anyway, it was just a fun theory, but I kind of like yours, too. Maybe Lavos and Jenova are both a type of WEAPON, and Omega, too?
Uh, so Lucretia just sits there entombed? Does Shelke still get Mako treatments to sustain herself? Why doesn't anyone bring up Shalua? How did they recover her body intact and escape Azul, who also crushed her? How is this considered the end of the FFVII compilation when the secret ending depicts otherwise? I love the game, I really do, but come on! I need answers!
Always kind of wondered why a super human like Vincent, with incredible agility and strength, would choose to fight with a pistol, a weapon with which his super strength is essentially meaningless. Seems like a missed opportunity.
Iirc, he had superhuman reflexes as well, which meant a firearm would still be a very effective weapon. He'd be the type who you'd find with the trail of bodies filled with single bullet holes between the eyes and absolutely nowhere else. The super strength would still be effective in ranges where he couldn't shoot effectively.
From time to time i have nightmares remembering me that this exists, the memories of having the game in my hands for the first time without knowing anything about the game are more precious that actually playing it, not even talk about finishing it. hooo, what they made of you Vincent.
if this game were remastered with a story where you could play as yuffie and vincent and unlock chaos to use as a limit break when gain the protomateria it would have been perfect
Hey man just want to say thank you for uploading these very informative videos. i have never been a big fan of the final fantasy games but have always enjoyed the stories told. thank you!
I thank you for taking the time to record these videos. I have not had the chance to play Dirge of Cerberus, but thanks to Opera Omnia that rekindled my interest in Shelke and Vincent.
Next is FF6, thanks for watching! (personally, I find it funny how half the characters in this game pronounce Shinra as SHIN-ra, and the rest say SHEEN-ra in the same conversation throughout the whole game.)
+Oni Black Mage Question: After seeing the secret ending, was there suppose to be another FFVII game after this or was the secret ending hinting to something else?
As of this time, there has been no development regarding it, be it in game or add-on text/audio form, despite being an obvious teaser. None of the additional lore in any compilation references it again, either. Just a dropped plot-line with a setup and no payoff.
+Oni Black Mage i thought there was a cell phone game in japan that was suppose to be a three part conclusion to ff7 (crisis core dirge of Cerberus said game and advent children) sometime around 06 07 if memory severs right
13:14 “Yuffie appears and her unflappable cheer actually deters Nero for the time being.” Me who came here right after finishing Intergrade: why didn’t she do that before Sonon....😭
Sephiroth was always the best in SOLDIER. This game just happens to blow everything out proportion and make certain characters seem stronger than they are. Weiss, for example, wouldn't be much stronger than Genesis.
I really loved this game when I played it as a child it was my first game in the FF7 compilation and it wasn't until long after I played and loved World of Final Fantasy did I realize that had the same writer Hiroki Chiba. He's now my favorite under appreciated writer at Square. No wonder he put shelke as a cameo in WOFF. Also you have to do a video on World of Final Fantasy next plz.
All those ff games are have over complicated plots I think that is the appeal to the people who love them, like the cheesy acting in some horror movies
+wolfsaber2222 i wanna see it expanded on in the 7remake since its going to be an episodic release. they can add sooooooooooooo much, even all the events of crisis core if they wanted.
@@Dr00zk1 As far as i see it now, FF7R will be a complete different story. Heck it might even be the new Planet that Omega Created after Dirge of Cerberus.
I played this game back in the day and didn’t get the plot. I watched this video to understand and instead of pausing it, I went to pee. Came back and I’m still lost. The Circle of Life
I mean not that bad..... this is nothing compared to Kingdom hearts lol. It helps to have played/watched/read the other titles in the series but yeah think of this as kingdom hearts lite
So the FF7 timeline is Before Crisis: Final Fantasy VII which is the prequel to the prequel. Next is Crisis Core: Final Fantasy VII which is the prequel to FF7. Then the base game of Final Fantasy VII. Then Final Fantasy VII Advent Children which is a movie which is the sequel to Final Fantasy VII. And finally is Dirge Of Cerberus: Final Fantasy VII which is technically the sequel to the sequel. Damn
I always thought this plot was stupid. -_- If Omega only awakened when the world was near ruin, it should've awakened along with the other Weapons in FF7, as well as the OTHER world crisis in the cell phone game, "Before Crisis". This 'end of the world' plot just loses its luster when there seems to always be a new "undiscovered" weapon born during each event. Seriously, all these weapons fail at their job until FORCED-PLOT pushes them to magically "awaken".
Holy was cast before Meteor, so I guess the planet wasn't worried? It just had an excuse to let the other weapons kill some of the humans that were wasting the lifestream energy?
Yeah I think the WEAPON system is a cascade. The lifestream sustains the planet, the planet sustains life, and living beings that die go back to the lifestream. The cascade activates if any of these three components is disturbed. When the lifestream is depleted, corrupted, or jammed, or the planet threatened, the gemstone WEAPONs activate to destroy the threat. If the threat is unmanageable, or the planet is irreversibly damaged, then Chaos activates and kill humans to reset the lifestream. After that the lifestream converge into Omega and we bail out of the planet.
You forget Advent Children also being a point that Omega should have awakened considering it was also a mass death/brink of planetary destruction scenario. They kept trying to outdo themselves on the scale of the danger to recapture the tension in most of the additional pieces that are increasingly problematic to the overall storyline with each addition that they introduced.
@@Quandry1 but it wasn't though. Geostigma wasn't a world-ending catastrophe, just a psuedo-plague that Sephiroth cast on a portion of the population - meaning not even the entire population of the planet was even affected. Even the villains didn't have any immediate world dominance plans, they just wanted to get Jenova back. Once Sephi woke up, there still weren't any problems yet, since he didn't have the black materia. That's the thing with this plot point. The idea of what qualifies as "bad enough to bail out" is made both really vague, but is at least conveyed as being a VERY EXTREME scenario. Plus, the first game had already established that the planet IS somewhat aware of what is going on, hence the Weapon triggers, and thus if it feels that enough is being done on the ground to handle the problem, then it will hold back any retaliation.
I tried watching the 3 hours story video and still had no idea what's going on. SO I watched this 20 minute video... I still have no idea what's going on. It's such a bad story
I really hate how Square just shoe-horned another One-winged Angel Character into an already convoluted story. And Have yet to make a game or movie to finalize this ending.
+Daniel Ramsey that's what makes FF7s story so good, it's one grand story. before crisis, crisis core, FF7, advent children, and dirge of Cerberus are wonderful novels to one grand story.
KaiserChiefs But that's the big Problem. Their building this Bigger, Grander "thing" out of an Already Great story. It really did not need to be stuffed with another Threat when the Main threat of Sepheiroth was already dealt with! I get that there is more story beyond with Red 13/Nanaki running Back to Midgard 500 years later…But they Can't fill in anymore story in there without Alienating All the previous Fans.
+KaiserChiefs Yeah, apparently ff-x and ff-x2 are set in the past long before right? Hasn't there a shinra character, whom later his descendants would name his company with the same name?
Thank you for making this 8+ years ago. Although I'm one of the few who actually enjoyed this game, you saved me the time and money from the urge to buy and play through it again.
"Vincent always told himself that if she was happy, he was happy, but that was always hard for him to swallow". Oh I'm sure it was! It definitely wasn't hard for Lucretia to swallow Hojo's 'happiness' though- she seemed to delight in it even! lol
Bring back these story elements building apon them. Changing them to push the FF7R cast to far beyond what they ever were capable of it's insane. Zack and Yuffie, Genesis and Weiss. Aerith and Sephiroth. Of course leading up to the clash of Cloud and Jenova or something even bigger.
Are we going to ignore that the guy that died in the beginning (Genesis in Crisis Core) somehow comes back to life years AFTER the events of Sephiroth and takes this new guy away post game? No? Ok, I'll see my self out then.
@@gingerkingds7804 he hasnt died in crisis core though if you looked back at it, zack didnt killed him, he just left him in which after leaving the deepground took genesis
@@gingerkingds7804 you’re forgetting that Nero and weiss pick him up in crisis core, as Zack didn’t actually kill him, and even shared a dumbapple with him before leaving him sitting against a chair shortly before Nero and weiss’s arrival
Why do I feel like the Tsviets are similar to both the Fiendish Five and Klaww Gang from the Sly Cooper Games? Azule is Muggshot/Jean Bison seeing how they’re the toughest member of the gang. Plus they’re kind of dumb. Rosso is Mz. Ruby/Contessa as they are the only female of the gang. Shelke is Panda King/Dimitri because they used to be the bad guys but after getting their asses kicked by the main character, they became good. Although she is a lot like Sir Raleigh/Dimitri seeing how they’re the first boss. Nero is Sir Raleigh/Rajan because they’re sort of the second in-command to the leader of the gain. Although I would compare Nero to Panda King/Jean Bison since they’re the e penultimate boss. And Weiss is Clockwerk/Arpeggio seeing how they’re the leader of the gang and after the deaths or arrests of the other gang members, they’re the last member. But I think Weiss is more like Arpeggio seeing how they have this complicated plan to use all of the people into killing each other or causing chaos so he can merge with an ancient beast and rule the world, or destroy it. And Hojo is either Clockwerk because he has a close connection to the main character or Arpeggio seeing how he was using everyone for his own plans of merging with the ancient beast.
I played this game 1st and then crisis core, and lastly watched the movie when I was young and not gonna lie I didn’t understand most of what was happening lmao. I never did play FFVII the main game. So I’m super happy to get to play it first time with the upcoming remake. Played this series totally out of order but enjoyed every game. :)
The cliff hanger of an ending tho damn I wasn't to know what genesis is gonna do what's after this game? Advent children didn't cover anything up about genesis so there's still a story that's untold
For everyone complaining about the pronunciation, Cait Sith's name is romanized as Ketto Shii in Japanese, which means it's pronounced the way Oni does in the video (Khet-shii).
really great vid. had a chance to borrow a friends copy of the game for ps2 when it was still around. never managed to finish it. but thanks to you i'm now caught up with the deep deep story. and with other FF games aswell!
Hm, I wonder if Jenova was just some other worlds version of Chaos/omega. Like the only reason she was antagonistic was because it happened to land on world already inhabited.
Hope to see a ending to the FF7 saga, since we saw G alive, and maybe with a better argument, like Advent Children resurrected sephy just to make a really cool animated fight scene of cloud vs him in glorious HD, but lorewise it was not very convincing, now lets see what changes come in the FF7 remake
never played this game because EVERYONE said it was hot garbage,and did the Final Fantasy 7 universe a injustice,looks like they where wrong ill have to order a copy off amazon or something
@@cappuccinogoodfinger yeah I just emulated it instead of spending cash,it's really just a generic action shooter with a paper thin level up system it just trys to ride on the Final Fantasy 7 name, it's generic and mediocre at the very best
So now I know the storyline... All I did was level up my character and did all the grindy shit and ended the entire game without understanding the storyline. Childhood memories. heh
This game was a mess in many ways, sadly. The ideas in it weren't really garbage, though. I hope they re-think the whole canon through, but with a more fresh, less [2003-2008] mindset. They could really rectify this story along with Crisis Core and Advent Children.
I kinda feel they should've ended the story in Advent Children. They literally expanded FF7's storyline into a mess. But I can't complain though; this game is considered to be a spin-off.
Came here after Rebirth, thanks for the recap! Took me longer than it should to figure out that by 'catchy' you meant Cait Sith lol Those new color based villains and the one eyed-bikini-lab-coat girl were just bizarre hahaha!
Having never played the game, but having played FF7 and seen Advent Children, I can only say: "What the crap?" They uploaded their minds? Vincent has some orb in him? There are other weapons? I really hate everything after 7.
+Trebor Almasy didn't you see the weapons in 7? They're all made of the same matter.The uploading mind is already done in 7.The orb is protomateria it helps Vincent control chaos
+Trebor Almasy I actually liked it. It proves something that I long suspected playing FF7: Hojo is the real villain. Think about it, Sephiroth was the "bad guy", but he was an experimented on baby turned into a supersoldier weapon who found out he was basically a monster, thought for a time he was a Cetra/Ancient, and then found out what Jenova, his mother, really was. That'd be enough to drive anyone insane, so his questionable motives (and questionable sanity) to basically destroy the world and absorb its power (and, in Advent Children, to go with his mother Jenova to a new world - a Promised Land), isn't exactly evil. While you might say ending life is evil, he sees Humans as cockroaches - and most people don't bat an eye at killing roaches or having an exterminator do it - and his motives aren't exactly EVIL in most senses. Hojo, on the other hand, is. He experiments on an unborn baby, a guy he tried to/basically killed, he even rubs his own assistant/colleague/lover's (Lucretcia's) nose in it, playing to her guilt, which he himself caused. Hojo is basically a rapist, murderer, and a "scientist" with absolutely ZERO sense of ethics, who dies in FF7 trying to bring about the end of the world. And unlike Sephiroth, there's absolutely nothing to absolve him or to point to as it not all being his own mind making the decisions. No troubled childhood or mindshattering revelation of his own past, and he's brilliant, meaning fully capable of recognizing the total lack of ethics and even basic empathy he has. Moreover, he's the perfect villain/foil to Vincent, who plays the tragic hero by comparison. . Dirge of Cerberus' story is pretty good. It's biggest problem isn't that it's a bad game, it's that people expected another FF7 and got a weaker (in terms of game mechanics, it wasn't trash, but it wasn't as good) version of Devil May Cry with a complicated story that doesn't land the payoff until close to the very end. It also has lots of "dead zones/space" in the story, lots of running around doing nothing really plot advancing, that played against it. But no, it wasn't a bad game, and it holds a decent place in the story. . Also, Crisis Core wasn't bad. It was a Kingdom Hearts take on FF, which I liked as I like both games (in fact, it plays a lot like Birth By Sleep, also good.) And if you've never played it, get to the part where Zach goes to Nibelheim and you get this CRAZY feeling of doom. You KNOW what's about to happen, but you can do nothing to change the course of fate. It's one of the weirdest feelings I've ever had playing a videogame, and I don't mean that in a bad way at all.
I'm beginning to wonder now that that Zack is alive in the "Original" timeline, maybe we'll finally have a follow-up after Dirge of Cerberus, what with the Genesis secret ending and all.
@@edgarhildheim5830 dude genesis was framed after gackt... The ending song was gackt singing even in crisis core the man that did all the movies for the computer was gackt the original Japanese voice for Genesis is gackt....
The graphics and the plot about uploading consciousness to robots reminds me of Kingdom Hearts 2 plot and graphics with the cartoony anime 3d situation and also the thing about uploading Sora's consciousness into the Twilight Town whatever its called.
lol, just because you appeared in it By the way, what's your current status? I always curious that i wished your own game, since you're my favourite final fantasy character
Hearts? Darkness? Data versions? Oh Nomura, you just can't help yourself can you?
10/10 comment
My thoughts exactly!
Also I want to like the comment, but there are 69 likes so I'm sorry.
I don't believe he had much of a part in this game.
He didn’t write or direct all he did was character designs
@@troid8880 he worked with them, I am sure he gave them some ideas.
His Dad's name was Grimoire??? That entire bloodline is doomed to be edgelords.
ZanMindtrip Grandfather was probably called Alucard or Midnight
Vincent: This is my grandfather, Gloomygreycloud McDoomerson... Valentine.
Lol
He looked like an older edgelord Vincent too
Nier reference maybe?
Me playing this game when it originally released and tried to understand the story: uhh what
Me watching this recap now: uhh what
The whole final fantasy VII lore is convoluted as fuck. I understand if you don't understand the plot of this game. If you haven't play from before crisis to doc and also read the novels you won't understand anything..
This is the canon story compare to ff7 r it's a reboot
@@nyxurich8959 Yeah, I prefer the original story
Ikr I'm like um ..what
The story is straight on par with Kingdom Hearts... as far as connecting to people's hearts and forging weapons out of willpower goes.
well, it did come out like right around when Kh2 did.
except somehow Kingdom Hearts did it better
It was good old boy Rufus who funded the whole shit.
Miguel Marques I agree based on what Rufus told Cloud in advent Children
Rufus: I acknowledge that Shinra owes the planet a lot. It goes without saying that my company and I are the ones who put the world in the sorry state it’s in. Therefore, it’s our responsibility to set things right.
What the hell, this plot is insane
You mean idiotic and completely unrelatable.
It's impressive how all of the new characters in this game don't remotely look like they belong in the universe of Final Fantasy VII whatsoever.
Eh, I'd give some credit to Azul and Shelke, since they give off a vibe of SOLDIERs who were experimented on to push them to some pretty big extremes. Even their outfits are pretty normal compared to their peers (Azul is just REALLY DAMN BUFF, and Shelke is just wearing an extra armor pad on her chest).
That, and Azul's Behemoth form is pretty slick.
@@GambeTama And Nero is just really really really into bondage.
@@KingOfHalla True, but he's also a giant spider, and I just don't vibe with that.
@@GambeTama oh shit he was wasnt he?!
They more like Kingdoms Hearts Characters tbh
"Body of a 9 year old though shes actually 19" Classic Japan
Remember, it's not pedophilia if only their body is underaged!
19?? Too old for Japan!
Classic case of legal loleh 😂
Looks 14 tho
- japan
Ravioli ravioli
CRAWLING IN MY SKIIIIN, THESE WOUNDS THEY WILL NOT HEEAAAALLLL!
FEAR IS HOW I FALL!
CONFUSING WHAT IS REAL!
Damn it you ruined it
Genesis lives 3 times, Hojo lives 3 times and sephiroth twice, why cant they just keep characters dead
Lapi Beats and Zack
Nr Shocks sephiroth absorbed into lifestream he is immortal.
well if they ever go about finishing this story maybe they will need Sephiroth to take out Genisis
DevilJin except genesis isn't really a bad guy anymore.
Bad writters cant understand the importance of death
I played the crap out of this game when it came out. I'm sure if I played it today, it wouldn't be as good. But I remember really enjoying this one.
I think it would hold up
I had a bunch of fun too
The shooting mechanics get really tedious
I played it and *loathed* the gameplay. Absolutely loved the story, though.
I almost beat this game. But for some reason it glitched after the final boss 😠
So the order is Crisis Core, Final Fantasy VII, Advent Children, Dirge of Cerberus?
Kurosaki Bilharinho crisis core ff7 advent children n the doc
yeah
Before Crisis also.
@@agipson101 that's what he said, no need to repeat dumbass
The order is crisis core, before crisis, FFVII, on a way to a smile, advent children, and dirge of Cerberus
Don't give 2 fucks what anyone says, this game was awesome through and through. Good story, had a Metal Gear Solid feel with the main bosses and even Weiss as Liquid, smooth gameplay ( people who say the gameplay was terrible are just bad, not liking the play style and hating on it due to "bad mechanics" aren't the same. For a 3D Action Shooter the machinists are more smooth than they've been in their recent Action RPG's ) It expanded on a story we all wanted to know more about and made our main character Vincent fucking Valentine, there's really nothing to hate.
Come at me.
finally someone who is brave enough to say it! thank you bro!
Amen!
Patrick Bateman as well as crisis core ff7
clunky gameplay, shit framerate, ridiculously dark sections...7/10. 10/10 for edgelords though.
I mean I REALLY enjoyed it. It was a HUGE change of pace for Final Fantasy that which we have never seen again. What's wrong with changing things up and going 3rd person shooter. Hell Yakuza did it (with zombies lol). Would have loved to see the continuation of all that. I mean I rather play this again than any of the Final Fantasy 13s or 15.
That's some kingdom hearts ass darkness lmao
I remember renting this and beating it over a weekend back when it came out, and I remembered N O T H I N G from it. Too many random-ass new characters, plot threads and groups that the game just treats like "oh, yeah they were here this whole time, and we definitely didn't just make them up for the sake of only this one game"
They were if you read the lore & Ultimania books but otherwise yeah it's hard to follow the story. I have to say though it is one hell of an epic. Nomura was kind of pushing FF7 stuff into Kingdom Hearts for a bit there until they greenlit the new series of games Remake, Reunion, Rebirth, and likely ReGenisis being the last game...
I think ultimately somehow they will make it to where Sephiroth, after essentially erasing the orig timeline using the Lifestream (memories) with Jenova's powers, will return to a state of semi-sanity to help end what project G started with the new games and Genisis/Wiess as the true ultimate evil the reunited team needs to defeat. Because if you recall from Crisis Core Genisis sent Sephiroth into a spiral of madness. IMO it could be a really cool epic wrap up of the entire series about 20 years after it was started.
@@joeshmoe3710pretty much sums up all of ff7. There are multiple tie ins to advent children alone.
Facts and I was way too young lol
I can't be the only one that really likes Yuffie.
At first I hated her and thought she was nothing but a pointless fanservice character. When she said she couldn't sympathize with Barret at the monorail station I thought she was an utter bitch. But as the game delved into her character and personality I learned to like her more. The Wutai arc made me see her as a person instead of a fan service device and the cloister of trials in the Wutai tower made me realise what a competent fighter she is.
In Dirge of Cerberus I respected and liked her even more.
Now she's one of my favorite characters and I genuinely believe there will never be anyone like her because she's just that good and unique.
Life is strange that way.
+༼ つ◕ω◕ ༽つ Wise Sage Doge what about the dame in 13 who had alexander?
+♞ Go Fuck Yourself ♞ I love Yuffie. She's way cooler than Aerith and Tifa. She has a much more vibrant personality, cooler weapon, interesting side story. Yuffie rules. I think she's one of the most fleshed out characters in the FF7 series.
both yuffie and vincent might be the most favourite characters in final fantasy 7
♞ Go Fuck Yourself ♞ yuffie is one of my fav chatacters. Sges bad ass, deathblow with luckplus n slash all...badasss
A long time ago I thought she was just a gag character - but the Wutai arc convinced me that she was a warrior. For that she was picked to help Cloud and Tifa on the final boss.
4:59 "but vincent manages to 'edge out' a win".... Oh he sure knows how to edge out
one of my theorys is that "Jenova" is a "weapon" from another planet. Very similar to how "Omega" is suppose to take life to another planet, I think Jenova could be a similar "weapon" from another planet. I love the lore of this Final Fantasy game above all others.
+Bobby Keating I used to wonder if Jenova was a female version of Lavos' species from Chrono Trigger.
It's probably just hapenstance, but since I played CT after I had played FF7, it made sense to me at the time. They both basically do similar things - crash on a planet, bust up the place, and then Lavos spawned some seedlings in the far future and basically the planet died.
Jenova is basically doing something similar. Sephiroth says in Advent Children that Jenova's cells were basically toxic or a virus in the Lifestream, and that she was "girdling it, choking it", planning to use the Planet as a vessel to travel to yet another world.
...while this is different than the shelled Lavos, which had no trouble traveling through interstellar space, Jenova might have lost her shell in her fierce battle/clash with the Cetra, or maybe the females of the species don't have them (like some kinds of insects and such where the males and females are very different.)
Anyway, it was just a fun theory, but I kind of like yours, too. Maybe Lavos and Jenova are both a type of WEAPON, and Omega, too?
Tactics
Very cool theory
There needs to be a planetary battle between Jenova and Omega.
@@gingerkingds7804 battle between Jenova and Omega are a Remake ending?
Convoluted does not necessarily means good, square
that seems to be japanese storytelling in general.
@@boyblue737 its the same with all games including western
@@9773an As if. If anything, western stories tend to be too straightforward.
@@ElConradoX to me they are just boring
@@9773an To you, EVERY western game's story is boring?
Sure, dude, whatever you say.
Uh, so Lucretia just sits there entombed? Does Shelke still get Mako treatments to sustain herself? Why doesn't anyone bring up Shalua? How did they recover her body intact and escape Azul, who also crushed her? How is this considered the end of the FFVII compilation when the secret ending depicts otherwise? I love the game, I really do, but come on! I need answers!
@@brianhuffman5187 I just want my Boi Genesis to show up and spout some nonsense in the remake so I can chuckle. What a loveable edgelord.
maybe the whole weiss and genesis thing is the reason why sephiroth knows shit that he shouldnt have know at the time ff7 remake takes place.
Always kind of wondered why a super human like Vincent, with incredible agility and strength, would choose to fight with a pistol, a weapon with which his super strength is essentially meaningless. Seems like a missed opportunity.
Because it was a terrible character and if it wasn't for the overflow glitch...Nobody would have used Vincent.
The game features a rifle, a submachine gun, a rocket launcher, a minigun etc etc.
Iirc, he had superhuman reflexes as well, which meant a firearm would still be a very effective weapon. He'd be the type who you'd find with the trail of bodies filled with single bullet holes between the eyes and absolutely nowhere else. The super strength would still be effective in ranges where he couldn't shoot effectively.
In earlier designs he actually wielded a scythe!
It's what he knew as a former Turk.
Devil May Cray (the first one) was very well received when it was released. That's why this was also made like that.
that is so stupid omfg why square whyyy you cut our 4quel short because you wanted better sales whaiiii
From time to time i have nightmares remembering me that this exists, the memories of having the game in my hands for the first time without knowing anything about the game are more precious that actually playing it, not even talk about finishing it. hooo, what they made of you Vincent.
if this game were remastered with a story where you could play as yuffie and vincent and unlock chaos to use as a limit break when gain the protomateria it would have been perfect
I had completely forgotten his dad was called Gromoire.... The Edge is strong with this family
Hey man just want to say thank you for uploading these very informative videos. i have never been a big fan of the final fantasy games but have always enjoyed the stories told. thank you!
I remember liking this game, maybe because Vincent is one of my favorites FFVII characters.
I remember I almost finished the whole game with the standard pistol cause I didnt realise you could upgrade it.
I thank you for taking the time to record these videos. I have not had the chance to play Dirge of Cerberus, but thanks to Opera Omnia that rekindled my interest in Shelke and Vincent.
The action-packed sequel to #FinalFantasy VII , Dirge of Cerberus was a shooter expanding #FF7 's Vincent's past
Next is FF6, thanks for watching! (personally, I find it funny how half the characters in this game pronounce Shinra as SHIN-ra, and the rest say SHEEN-ra in the same conversation throughout the whole game.)
+Oni Black Mage Question: After seeing the secret ending, was there suppose to be another FFVII game after this or was the secret ending hinting to something else?
As of this time, there has been no development regarding it, be it in game or add-on text/audio form, despite being an obvious teaser. None of the additional lore in any compilation references it again, either. Just a dropped plot-line with a setup and no payoff.
+Oni Black Mage i thought there was a cell phone game in japan that was suppose to be a three part conclusion to ff7 (crisis core dirge of Cerberus said game and advent children) sometime around 06 07 if memory severs right
+TheGamer7893 actually, the secret ending is hinting to crisis core. But it cause dissatisfaction since we don't know genesis' current status
This was amazing.... I am so happy that you made this, it made the story much more understandable to me.
13:14 “Yuffie appears and her unflappable cheer actually deters Nero for the time being.”
Me who came here right after finishing Intergrade: why didn’t she do that before Sonon....😭
Because she hasn't learned to be unflappable yet, she's still young and flappable lol
"shinra's most elite soldier" I thought that was sephiroth... wtf square
+Diego Raya remember supersoldiers that were failed? Rufus never knew about deep ground
+Diego Raya think of him as pre-sephiroth
+Archus orez you guys talkin about vice? he is technicly hojo, sephiroths father
also, unless im cinfused, sephiroth is dead by this point
Sephiroth was always the best in SOLDIER. This game just happens to blow everything out proportion and make certain characters seem stronger than they are. Weiss, for example, wouldn't be much stronger than Genesis.
the main canon got so convoluted so they decide to reboot the whole thing; flash point style.
Even then, it's convoluted. Because now there's "Timelines!" ugh, it's gonna be like LoZ all over again
They created an alternative timeline in the remake
Lvl 6 of Max must be Seph doing what he did because Genesis and Weiss were taking his title in these comments as the best.
with nomura at the head of the script? lul lul ulul ulu luu
@@redacted8008 Isn't Nojima the one doing the story writing for FFVIIR?
Can’t believe Lucretia fell for Hojo instead of Vincent
A lot of it was born of desperation, and, ultimately, insanity.
@@LnPPersonified oh yeah those cells,yeah that might be causing her to go more insane
@@Dennnnnnn_ That's why I say she's insane. Only a crazy person would pick Hojo over Vincent.
I don’t know which part of hojo that entice lucretia 😂
"If she's happy, then I'm happy."
- Vincent 'The Cuck' Valentine
I really loved this game when I played it as a child it was my first game in the FF7 compilation and it wasn't until long after I played and loved World of Final Fantasy did I realize that had the same writer Hiroki Chiba. He's now my favorite under appreciated writer at Square. No wonder he put shelke as a cameo in WOFF. Also you have to do a video on World of Final Fantasy next plz.
This was the first FF game I ever played. Childhood nostalgia is bliss.
Even the recap makes no sense.
It does, but requires some VAST knowledge about the games in a whole.
You know what else doesn't make any sense? Why people think this series is good.
@@gingerkingds7804 True
All those ff games are have over complicated plots I think that is the appeal to the people who love them, like the cheesy acting in some horror movies
ummm it does if you have played it though
In the description it says “explained in simple terms”
Wait, Genesis was in this? Huh, neat.
The secret ending MOST be elaborated on in a new game!!!!
***** You got that right.
+wolfsaber2222 i wanna see it expanded on in the 7remake since its going to be an episodic release. they can add sooooooooooooo much, even all the events of crisis core if they wanted.
+Dr00zk1 /\ Look at him, look at him and like.
+Dr00zk1 i hope they do it in order, all in one game. crisis core 7 dirge then 4quel. all in beautiful unison
@@Dr00zk1 As far as i see it now, FF7R will be a complete different story. Heck it might even be the new Planet that Omega Created after Dirge of Cerberus.
"Tsviets" sounds a lot like Soviets lol
Just finished FF7 watched Advent Children now it's Dirge of Cerberus
I played this game back in the day and didn’t get the plot.
I watched this video to understand and instead of pausing it, I went to pee. Came back and I’m still lost.
The Circle of Life
Same lol even after watching the all cutscenes i still don't understand
I mean not that bad..... this is nothing compared to Kingdom hearts lol. It helps to have played/watched/read the other titles in the series but yeah think of this as kingdom hearts lite
So the FF7 timeline is Before Crisis: Final Fantasy VII which is the prequel to the prequel. Next is Crisis Core: Final Fantasy VII which is the prequel to FF7. Then the base game of Final Fantasy VII. Then Final Fantasy VII Advent Children which is a movie which is the sequel to Final Fantasy VII. And finally is Dirge Of Cerberus: Final Fantasy VII which is technically the sequel to the sequel. Damn
I always thought this plot was stupid. -_- If Omega only awakened when the world was near ruin, it should've awakened along with the other Weapons in FF7, as well as the OTHER world crisis in the cell phone game, "Before Crisis". This 'end of the world' plot just loses its luster when there seems to always be a new "undiscovered" weapon born during each event. Seriously, all these weapons fail at their job until FORCED-PLOT pushes them to magically "awaken".
Holy was cast before Meteor, so I guess the planet wasn't worried? It just had an excuse to let the other weapons kill some of the humans that were wasting the lifestream energy?
Yeah I think the WEAPON system is a cascade. The lifestream sustains the planet, the planet sustains life, and living beings that die go back to the lifestream. The cascade activates if any of these three components is disturbed. When the lifestream is depleted, corrupted, or jammed, or the planet threatened, the gemstone WEAPONs activate to destroy the threat. If the threat is unmanageable, or the planet is irreversibly damaged, then Chaos activates and kill humans to reset the lifestream. After that the lifestream converge into Omega and we bail out of the planet.
You forget Advent Children also being a point that Omega should have awakened considering it was also a mass death/brink of planetary destruction scenario. They kept trying to outdo themselves on the scale of the danger to recapture the tension in most of the additional pieces that are increasingly problematic to the overall storyline with each addition that they introduced.
@@Quandry1 Yeah, that's a trope in writing called "escalation". It's really annoying and ruins perfectly good fiction.
@@Quandry1 but it wasn't though. Geostigma wasn't a world-ending catastrophe, just a psuedo-plague that Sephiroth cast on a portion of the population - meaning not even the entire population of the planet was even affected. Even the villains didn't have any immediate world dominance plans, they just wanted to get Jenova back. Once Sephi woke up, there still weren't any problems yet, since he didn't have the black materia.
That's the thing with this plot point. The idea of what qualifies as "bad enough to bail out" is made both really vague, but is at least conveyed as being a VERY EXTREME scenario. Plus, the first game had already established that the planet IS somewhat aware of what is going on, hence the Weapon triggers, and thus if it feels that enough is being done on the ground to handle the problem, then it will hold back any retaliation.
Wow thank you for saving me 3 hrs of watching gameplay and putting the story together 💯👌🏾
I tried watching the 3 hours story video and still had no idea what's going on. SO I watched this 20 minute video... I still have no idea what's going on. It's such a bad story
I really hate how Square just shoe-horned another One-winged Angel Character into an already convoluted story. And Have yet to make a game or movie to finalize this ending.
+Daniel Ramsey that's what makes FF7s story so good, it's one grand story. before crisis, crisis core, FF7, advent children, and dirge of Cerberus are wonderful novels to one grand story.
KaiserChiefs
But that's the big Problem. Their building this Bigger, Grander "thing" out of an Already Great story. It really did not need to be stuffed with another Threat when the Main threat of Sepheiroth was already dealt with!
I get that there is more story beyond with Red 13/Nanaki running Back to Midgard 500 years later…But they Can't fill in anymore story in there without Alienating All the previous Fans.
Daniel Ramsey haha, don't forget ffx taking place in the same universe too.
+KaiserChiefs Yeah, apparently ff-x and ff-x2 are set in the past long before right? Hasn't there a shinra character, whom later his descendants would name his company with the same name?
Bro, have you never actually thought about real life. Now that is a fucked up story
Thank you for making this 8+ years ago.
Although I'm one of the few who actually enjoyed this game, you saved me the time and money from the urge to buy and play through it again.
"Vincent always told himself that if she was happy, he was happy, but that was always hard for him to swallow". Oh I'm sure it was! It definitely wasn't hard for Lucretia to swallow Hojo's 'happiness' though- she seemed to delight in it even! lol
The fact that they added Weiss and Nero in the FF7 remake intermission/rebirth is insane
Bring back these story elements building apon them. Changing them to push the FF7R cast to far beyond what they ever were capable of it's insane. Zack and Yuffie, Genesis and Weiss. Aerith and Sephiroth. Of course leading up to the clash of Cloud and Jenova or something even bigger.
Didn't realize this ended on a cliffhanger...
Are we going to ignore that the guy that died in the beginning (Genesis in Crisis Core) somehow comes back to life years AFTER the events of Sephiroth and takes this new guy away post game? No? Ok, I'll see my self out then.
@@gingerkingds7804 he hasnt died in crisis core though if you looked back at it, zack didnt killed him, he just left him in which after leaving the deepground took genesis
@@gingerkingds7804 you’re forgetting that Nero and weiss pick him up in crisis core, as Zack didn’t actually kill him, and even shared a dumbapple with him before leaving him sitting against a chair shortly before Nero and weiss’s arrival
Sometimes when i look back into final fantasy memories i kinda feel some wood writing, but then i remember well the plots
Why do I feel like the Tsviets are similar to both the Fiendish Five and Klaww Gang from the Sly Cooper Games?
Azule is Muggshot/Jean Bison seeing how they’re the toughest member of the gang. Plus they’re kind of dumb.
Rosso is Mz. Ruby/Contessa as they are the only female of the gang.
Shelke is Panda King/Dimitri because they used to be the bad guys but after getting their asses kicked by the main character, they became good. Although she is a lot like Sir Raleigh/Dimitri seeing how they’re the first boss.
Nero is Sir Raleigh/Rajan because they’re sort of the second in-command to the leader of the gain. Although I would compare Nero to Panda King/Jean Bison since they’re the e penultimate boss.
And Weiss is Clockwerk/Arpeggio seeing how they’re the leader of the gang and after the deaths or arrests of the other gang members, they’re the last member. But I think Weiss is more like Arpeggio seeing how they have this complicated plan to use all of the people into killing each other or causing chaos so he can merge with an ancient beast and rule the world, or destroy it.
And Hojo is either Clockwerk because he has a close connection to the main character or Arpeggio seeing how he was using everyone for his own plans of merging with the ancient beast.
I played this game 1st and then crisis core, and lastly watched the movie when I was young and not gonna lie I didn’t understand most of what was happening lmao. I never did play FFVII the main game. So I’m super happy to get to play it first time with the upcoming remake. Played this series totally out of order but enjoyed every game. :)
That is such a weird order to play the games
You say you played all the add ons but never the main story and wonder why you’re confused?
Assume they were young at the time
I thought that this would make the game make more sense... I was wrong. Dafuq was the director of this game on.
The smell of his own farts.
My first final fantasy game. I love it and the start up of the game will never get old
It'd be cool if it was a rematch
Sephiroth vs Genesis. Vengeance.
Absolutely loved this game. So glad they integrated it into the ff7 remake
The cliff hanger of an ending tho damn I wasn't to know what genesis is gonna do what's after this game?
Advent children didn't cover anything up about genesis so there's still a story that's untold
For everyone complaining about the pronunciation, Cait Sith's name is romanized as Ketto Shii in Japanese, which means it's pronounced the way Oni does in the video (Khet-shii).
Just took me a second thats who he meant. I thought he was saying Kenshi…
Wow, I was just talking about this game the other day. Vincent is so damn cool !
really great vid. had a chance to borrow a friends copy of the game for ps2 when it was still around. never managed to finish it. but thanks to you i'm now caught up with the deep deep story. and with other FF games aswell!
Hm, I wonder if Jenova was just some other worlds version of Chaos/omega. Like the only reason she was antagonistic was because it happened to land on world already inhabited.
Yes, but it is too aggressive for an entity that should protect a planet. If she is a Weapow she is certainly an artificial one.
I never could bet this game, but I still enjoyed it very much. I'm glad I'm not the only one.
Hope to see a ending to the FF7 saga, since we saw G alive, and maybe with a better argument, like Advent Children resurrected sephy just to make a really cool animated fight scene of cloud vs him in glorious HD, but lorewise it was not very convincing, now lets see what changes come in the FF7 remake
I have and still play this game regularly..love chaos
great video! i wish that square enix would make another sequel to this amazing series of games
Thank you for these videos. They are amazing and ya'll did amazing work with them.
never played this game because EVERYONE said it was hot garbage,and did the Final Fantasy 7 universe a injustice,looks like they where wrong ill have to order a copy off amazon or something
Same here, I guess it was post-advent where everything added was hated on... Turns out pretty good. I wonder if this game supports KB+M on emulator...
No, they were right. I guess you must've played it by now. Now you know.
They were all right. This game was hot garbage and an injustice.
I love Vincent, but this game is a cash grab. FFII Compilation Project as a whole is there to milk every penny possible from the original FFVII fans.
@@cappuccinogoodfinger yeah I just emulated it instead of spending cash,it's really just a generic action shooter with a paper thin level up system it just trys to ride on the Final Fantasy 7 name, it's generic and mediocre at the very best
Thank you so much for breaking this down because I never understood what the hell was going on🤷🏽♂️
I need a final wrap up story for genesis its driving me crazy
Why hes garbage and a terrible character from an even worse game. Crisis core was fun to play but really lost points on story.
I have so many good memories of this game,I love it to this day.
you are by far my favorite you-tuber.
This game deserved more recognition.
So now I know the storyline... All I did was level up my character and did all the grindy shit and ended the entire game without understanding the storyline.
Childhood memories. heh
Totally, me too
Wow! The first time I've heard someone say Cait Sith's name and I'm finally prompted to look it up. What a difference!
This game was a mess in many ways, sadly. The ideas in it weren't really garbage, though. I hope they re-think the whole canon through, but with a more fresh, less [2003-2008] mindset. They could really rectify this story along with Crisis Core and Advent Children.
A D I love crisis core
Thanks for the video bro. Very helpful. Next time try to slow down if you can. The story is already convoluted and it’s hard to keep up.
I kinda feel they should've ended the story in Advent Children. They literally expanded FF7's storyline into a mess. But I can't complain though; this game is considered to be a spin-off.
No it's not it's part of the story but where it ended in a cliff hanger
for me, its just ffvii and advent. Its all ya need.
Thanks for this I don't have the time too sit & watch one of those almost 4 hour long playthroughs
Gotta love cait sith XD the first time I nailed his ultimate limit break it made me laugh so hard due to how wacky it is XD
Came here after Rebirth, thanks for the recap! Took me longer than it should to figure out that by 'catchy' you meant Cait Sith lol Those new color based villains and the one eyed-bikini-lab-coat girl were just bizarre hahaha!
Dude i love your videos
I used to play this back in the day. I never realize how many twist there was in this game.
I hope this and Crisis Core get remade too.
watched a few of your recaps now and just wanted to thank your for em. loving FF.
Guessing WRO is funded by Dio from Gold Saucer.
+kenji harima Personally, my bet is on Rufus, though we never find out.
+Oni Black Mage it's suspected it's him
Well we will know in the remake if they ever add side quests and more story arcs
+kenji harima Yeah, or maybe not...The best guess is Rufus
+Oni Black Mage But why would he fund that if he's a badie Shinra guy?
I still have my PS2 Dirge Of Cerberus game since 2007.
Having never played the game, but having played FF7 and seen Advent Children, I can only say:
"What the crap?"
They uploaded their minds?
Vincent has some orb in him?
There are other weapons?
I really hate everything after 7.
+Trebor Almasy Crisis Core is good though, great development for Zack.
it's been said in 7 that Vincent carries chaos in him... you are just one mindfucked soul.
+Trebor Almasy didn't you see the weapons in 7? They're all made of the same matter.The uploading mind is already done in 7.The orb is protomateria it helps Vincent control chaos
+Trebor Almasy I actually liked it. It proves something that I long suspected playing FF7:
Hojo is the real villain.
Think about it, Sephiroth was the "bad guy", but he was an experimented on baby turned into a supersoldier weapon who found out he was basically a monster, thought for a time he was a Cetra/Ancient, and then found out what Jenova, his mother, really was. That'd be enough to drive anyone insane, so his questionable motives (and questionable sanity) to basically destroy the world and absorb its power (and, in Advent Children, to go with his mother Jenova to a new world - a Promised Land), isn't exactly evil.
While you might say ending life is evil, he sees Humans as cockroaches - and most people don't bat an eye at killing roaches or having an exterminator do it - and his motives aren't exactly EVIL in most senses.
Hojo, on the other hand, is.
He experiments on an unborn baby, a guy he tried to/basically killed, he even rubs his own assistant/colleague/lover's (Lucretcia's) nose in it, playing to her guilt, which he himself caused.
Hojo is basically a rapist, murderer, and a "scientist" with absolutely ZERO sense of ethics, who dies in FF7 trying to bring about the end of the world.
And unlike Sephiroth, there's absolutely nothing to absolve him or to point to as it not all being his own mind making the decisions. No troubled childhood or mindshattering revelation of his own past, and he's brilliant, meaning fully capable of recognizing the total lack of ethics and even basic empathy he has.
Moreover, he's the perfect villain/foil to Vincent, who plays the tragic hero by comparison.
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Dirge of Cerberus' story is pretty good.
It's biggest problem isn't that it's a bad game, it's that people expected another FF7 and got a weaker (in terms of game mechanics, it wasn't trash, but it wasn't as good) version of Devil May Cry with a complicated story that doesn't land the payoff until close to the very end.
It also has lots of "dead zones/space" in the story, lots of running around doing nothing really plot advancing, that played against it.
But no, it wasn't a bad game, and it holds a decent place in the story.
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Also, Crisis Core wasn't bad. It was a Kingdom Hearts take on FF, which I liked as I like both games (in fact, it plays a lot like Birth By Sleep, also good.)
And if you've never played it, get to the part where Zach goes to Nibelheim and you get this CRAZY feeling of doom. You KNOW what's about to happen, but you can do nothing to change the course of fate.
It's one of the weirdest feelings I've ever had playing a videogame, and I don't mean that in a bad way at all.
maybe hojo's uncle touched him in his nono area at a family bbq.
I'm beginning to wonder now that that Zack is alive in the "Original" timeline, maybe we'll finally have a follow-up after Dirge of Cerberus, what with the Genesis secret ending and all.
So when are we gonna find out what happened to genesis
Like the only video I can find that talks about Weiss and deep ground
I feel like we all should have seen this game as a warning for what was to become of Kingdom Hearts.
These vids are magic!! Thank you! Been listening/watching them while painting.
dude....what happened to genesis after that...he's the only true living soldier of the past gen...plz square enix don't scre him up
He renamed himself to Gackt and started a career as a singer. Weiss became his lead guitarist and lover.
@@edgarhildheim5830 WHAT¡¡¡
@@edgarhildheim5830 Reminds me of a gintama episode.
@@edgarhildheim5830 dude genesis was framed after gackt... The ending song was gackt singing even in crisis core the man that did all the movies for the computer was gackt the original Japanese voice for Genesis is gackt....
I like Vincent, in ff vii I used death blow, combined with a 100% hit chance sniper weapon, everything was smooth sailing from there lol.
Great video!
Thanks for this Recapitation ;)
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The graphics and the plot about uploading consciousness to robots reminds me of Kingdom Hearts 2 plot and graphics with the cartoony anime 3d situation and also the thing about uploading Sora's consciousness into the Twilight Town whatever its called.
I love the ending :)
+Genesis Rhapsodos Same, I love how Genesis is still alive and- I just noticed your name.
Maybe they can extend the story of Genesis.
+Reggie Joseph (Neko) They ought to. The story has yet to truly end.
lol, just because you appeared in it
By the way, what's your current status? I always curious that i wished your own game, since you're my favourite final fantasy character
Apparently you would. Unfortunately