Agree. And MJ is no one to decide that this guy did not have the attitude and talent to go. He should have set apart his diva shit to one side. I like way more Thomas way of carrying himself after retirement. He is generous with the basketball audience, and society in general. While MJ stays on his glass tower, not mingling and feeding his myth persona. Thats not natural.
These kids are carrying the ball everywhere … Palm under is a carry!! Now Zeke, Magic, Stock, Nash, Anderson, Mark Jackson and others know how to dribble. The fact that everyone says handle(s) speaks volumes. You handle things that you carry around.
For me, it's Isiah and Kyrie as the two best dribblers ever. I have to admit I haven't seen much of Maravich but those two clips in this vid were nasty.
Very hard to pick the best out of this phenomenal group! Somebody that I have not heard mentioned is Nate Archibald. This phenomenal passer and scorer had unbelievable handles and creativity. In at least one season he led the League in assists and scoring!
@@benlansky7992 I know I'm late but the true crossover innovators were Zeke and Tim hardaway, ai certainly used it well but his main weapon was his insane speed. His first step was what defined his game
@@stevenzemaitis1513 it's great to see people still commenting on old videos. I see what your talking about, but it's unanimously agreed that AI had one of the greatest handles because he innovated/created his own style(which was very effective) cementing him in the conversation.
But.... ALMOST every player in the last 20 years that "has handles" either double dribble, Palms/ carries, and travels almost EVERY time (at least one of these 3 violations). harden commits all 3 EVERY game. Cousy, Maravich etc. ALWAYS had their hands ON TOP of the ball, never took more than 2 steps and never "hesitated" (which is just a way for the NBA to allow double dribbling and walking).
a carry is only under the ball. players put their hands on the side of the ball. thats not a carry. letting it spin in your palm is not a CARRY. hesistating and taking 2 steps is not a travel, the dribble is live. u can take as many steps if the dirbble is live
@@RobinXlone Read the rule book. that aside, The "side carry" has been loosely called since the ABA days. I'm ok with that. There are MANY instances, watch highlights/games etc, in which the hand IS under the ball. Hesitation , BY DEFINITION, is the ACTUAL manner in which a DOUBLE DRIBBLE occurs. It's illegal, but allowed in today's NBA. Taking MORE than two steps is a travel. Two is allowed, everyone knows that. What is your point there? Watch these highlights, three steps without a dribble in many instances.
You have a keen eye for the game, look at the top ten highlights today makes me realize why I never made high school teams.. a lot of politics. The amount of travelling nowadays is equivalent to all earths frequent flyer miles combined.
A conversation about GOAT handles with no MENTION of Iverson? I don't expect Isaiah to mention him; he's made it clear before how he feels about those who dribble outside the box. But for NO ONE to mention him? Smh. That's like having a discussion about GOAT RBs with no mention of Payton. It's less than sacrilege, but more than foolishness.
@@kingslayerx1716 a couple of things. First, I was relaying a message therefore, I am not "joking". Second, it was their opinion, not mine. Third, it's "you're" not "your".
Iverson and ginobli had great moves. But pure ball handler,being able to escape traps (like Isiah did in his old clips) with 3 or 4 people coming at you,those dudes can't do that. Now Kyrie can do that,Shammgod can do that,Rafer Alston can do that
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Well Isiah sure has the authority to talk on the subject!
James Harden got the step back with the step back🤣
Dude had umbrella in he’s hands 🤣
Minstrel show
Isiah deserved to be on that barcelona olympic dream team.
Agree. And MJ is no one to decide that this guy did not have the attitude and talent to go. He should have set apart his diva shit to one side. I like way more Thomas way of carrying himself after retirement. He is generous with the basketball audience, and society in general. While MJ stays on his glass tower, not mingling and feeding his myth persona. Thats not natural.
The most underrated player in the history of basketball
Truth
Wdym hes considered a top 10 point guard.
@@nunyabusiness8498 well he should be top 3.
@@yuckesh top 3 would be magic curry stockton. Maybe top 5
@@nunyabusiness8498 nah i would put him above Stockton. He lead his team to multiple rings which is something Stockton failed to do.
Good shout out to Kenny Anderson. If anyone had the ball on a string, it was him.
These kids are carrying the ball everywhere …
Palm under is a carry!!
Now Zeke, Magic, Stock, Nash, Anderson, Mark Jackson and others know how to dribble.
The fact that everyone says handle(s) speaks volumes.
You handle things that you carry around.
For me, it's Isiah and Kyrie as the two best dribblers ever. I have to admit I haven't seen much of Maravich but those two clips in this vid were nasty.
finally jamal crawford gets recognition
He has such a nice smile but he was such a bad boy when he was on the pistons
Baby Faced Assassin
"He was such a bad boy" 😭😭😭😭
@@imgaybut3430 🤣🤣😭😭
@@dadon8846i read off the username off the person u replied too...
James Harden has the stepback with the stepback😂😂
Steve Nash was amazing in handles. And they forgot about Chris Paul, Jason Williams and Allen Iverson too
No
@@gamelove100 ??
White chocolate and AI are retired
What about KAI
Isiah kills me, dudes so funny, plus a top 5 PG to boot
And his handlers were better than all of them.
Kyrie is a beast
Surprised Isiah didn’t mention the crooked leg
Very hard to pick the best out of this phenomenal group! Somebody that I have not heard mentioned is Nate Archibald. This phenomenal passer and scorer had unbelievable handles and creativity. In at least one season he led the League in assists and scoring!
Maravich was going to be the first white globetrotter they offered him a contract but he didn't sign with them instead he went to the nba
Jason Williams aka JWILL aka White Chocolate.
0:52 took me like 3 looks to figure that out
0:51 is godsend
Rafer Alston skip to my lou
Thank you for mentioning Kenny bout time!!!!!
Omari Prince Kenny doesn’t get mentioned enough for his superior ball handling skills! He was definitely a wizard with the ball!
Isiah i hope my FLOW IS SO 86 SMOOTH I OPERATE ON A ELITE LEVEL OF SKATING! JAZZ RAP ROCK AND STRAIGHT UP LOVING THE GAME
What about Tiny Nate Archibald?
Allen iverson was not mentioned
He talked about the innovators and the current players. AI is neither of the 2.
@@russell2890 he is an innovator in my opinion. he changed the basketball culture and got his own move, "the Iverson Crossover."
@@benlansky7992 I know I'm late but the true crossover innovators were Zeke and Tim hardaway, ai certainly used it well but his main weapon was his insane speed. His first step was what defined his game
@@stevenzemaitis1513 it's great to see people still commenting on old videos. I see what your talking about, but it's unanimously agreed that AI had one of the greatest handles because he innovated/created his own style(which was very effective) cementing him in the conversation.
Never mind
Zeke himself is top 10 handles all time easy
But.... ALMOST every player in the last 20 years that "has handles" either double dribble, Palms/ carries, and travels almost EVERY time (at least one of these 3 violations). harden commits all 3 EVERY game. Cousy, Maravich etc. ALWAYS had their hands ON TOP of the ball, never took more than 2 steps and never "hesitated" (which is just a way for the NBA to allow double dribbling and walking).
a carry is only under the ball. players put their hands on the side of the ball. thats not a carry. letting it spin in your palm is not a CARRY. hesistating and taking 2 steps is not a travel, the dribble is live. u can take as many steps if the dirbble is live
@@RobinXlone Read the rule book. that aside, The "side carry" has been loosely called since the ABA days. I'm ok with that. There are MANY instances, watch highlights/games etc, in which the hand IS under the ball. Hesitation , BY DEFINITION, is the ACTUAL manner in which a DOUBLE DRIBBLE occurs. It's illegal, but allowed in today's NBA. Taking MORE than two steps is a travel. Two is allowed, everyone knows that. What is your point there? Watch these highlights, three steps without a dribble in many instances.
Agreed
You have a keen eye for the game, look at the top ten highlights today makes me realize why I never made high school teams.. a lot of politics. The amount of travelling nowadays is equivalent to all earths frequent flyer miles combined.
Lol James harden took another L in this video.
A conversation about GOAT handles with no MENTION of Iverson?
I don't expect Isaiah to mention him; he's made it clear before how he feels about those who dribble outside the box. But for NO ONE to mention him? Smh. That's like having a discussion about GOAT RBs with no mention of Payton. It's less than sacrilege, but more than foolishness.
Sorry about that i did not see it all
CP3
Please what's the name mentioned at 6:08?
God Shammgod
@@jcream8 Thank you man.
Old school handles wouldn’t work now days
No AI
Ai would be no. 2 if it was all time
No white chocolate
2018...this was current players n AI was retired
After magic there's Zeke
Isiah Thomas 心中永远的篮球之神
Where is Iverson?
Retired when this convo happened
Rip
Chris Jackson
Kevin Johnson.....
2:48 soccer slide? lol
Nate Robinson
what about allen iverson
On an open court episode, they said that AI has speed but his handles weren't that impressive. They're the experts
@@russell2890 your joking right?
@@kingslayerx1716 a couple of things. First, I was relaying a message therefore, I am not "joking". Second, it was their opinion, not mine. Third, it's "you're" not "your".
@@russell2890 you can’t actually be trying to correct incorrect grammar in a RUclips comment section XD your trying waaaay to hard
@@kingslayerx1716 I said my piece kid. Get over it.
deron williams & jason williams ???
Current players dumbass
@@lleytonyawson2057 he said this 2 years ago lmao
Pistol Pete ...is in the top 3 period.....he would run full speed and shift on you...while dribbling 😳😳😳😳😳
Jason Williams 🤷♂️
Iverson and ginobli
Iverson and ginobli had great moves. But pure ball handler,being able to escape traps (like Isiah did in his old clips) with 3 or 4 people coming at you,those dudes can't do that. Now Kyrie can do that,Shammgod can do that,Rafer Alston can do that
Aww, zeke, how could you leave out Chris Paul?
😂😂😂
Easy.
How was people falling for that back in the day
Who is watching this Guy's show? What he is saying is obsolete!!
but today's nba carrying is allowed just as flopping is.LOL too soft
Why you didn't say kyrie now Isaiah hates on kyries nsme
Huh! He did mention Kyrie can you hear?!
Sorry didn't see next comment
Kyrie is overrated.
I mean he can't really lead a team and he does/says stupid stuff all the time but you can't deny his skill.
Agreed
These Old heads are in fact old there were many players that they didn't even mention.