+Louis Hypothetical Haha! The rope ones would look a little strange underground admittedly, I am not sure if they have them underground in Daegu where they are deployed. The Parisian ones are nice - I saw them everywhere on the Paris metro and they worked pretty well.
When those trains arrive and depart, it sounds very similar to the British Rail Class 375/376/377/378/379/387 Electrostar type of trains. Also, a bit like the Victoria Line on the London Underground. And also at 1:40 it uses the same announcement chime as the Southeastern High Speed British Rail Class 395 Javelin.
These trains have been around for quite a bit now - since 1998 they've been on the network, so they're a fair bit older. I think the sound is quite similar these days for many motors that use AC motors. I still miss those old DC motors on the tube, though. They had such a classic sound.
If multiple trains share the same platform and they have all different door position and size, number 3 is a good option. Also you can escape easily when emergency occures.
I think option 3 is best for lines with multiple door configurations, or lines with passing trains which can cause massive pressure that might break the window. Not really for metro lines tho.
The glass wont break of pressure. They are made to not break and its not made by real glass. The London tube has the same and it has never broken. And the tube arrives and depart faster then the stckhm metro so imagine that. And im not meaning it departs faster to get quickly to next station, cuz that is correct either way, i mean driving into the platform in the tube is around 35 - 30 mph and in stckhm they are only allowed max speed 50 “KMH” arriving at a station. The tube is maybe a little bit faster, but they got diffrent learning because it has so good breaks, thats why they drive so fast
Svartmetall Sverige! What about the Platform Edge doors on the Jubilee line have you seen them yet I think the platform edge Doors on the Jubilee line London Underground are the best
@@svartmetall48 Singapore's platform screen doors at overground stations looks like Option 2 but are mostly made by Westinghouse instead (& we also have full-height doors at underground stations, some from other makers too e.g. Fairveley for Downtown Line (1 of them fell onto an oncoming train though once))
They only have the platform doors at two stations (pendletåg/commuter rails). It's in Stockholm City and Odenplan. The test you see in this video were stopped because it would cost too much but now they are going to test again and eventually buy these.
@@maxprivat2295 Thank you for your insides. Yes it would cost too much but might be worth for the most busy stations. I think the outside stations won't need that. At which stations are they testing them again?
In the budget for 2019 they voted yes to, it says one indoor and one outdoor station are going to get those barriers for test. They are currently under the planing phase but they voted yes to it. Probaly the test will start under the summer. On tuesday they will have a meeting about it.
Wow, thanks a lot for the insights. So let's see which stations are getting them. I assume it will be along the green lines as the other lines use a mix of the old and modern trains (not sure if they have the same door positions).
Yeah but the old trains will be taken out of service and the regular trains (as on the green line) and the brand new C30-trains will be used on the red line. They will start using some of the new trains in the autumn. ruclips.net/video/2cfxHhpYF-s/видео.html
If the Korean style doors used clear plastic panels as oppose to wire rope, I would probably go for it. and of the frames are properly integrated into the stations I reckon I would choose this design. They may even look at garage style doors where they can go over the top of the train when they are open.
+Jügren van der Kaas Interesting thought. Why do you prefer this kind of door over the other two out of interest? Many seem to be a little sceptical about the Korean design.
+Svartmetall Sverige! Well if there were any issues trying to align the train doors with the platform doors these ones would be the best. I do prefer the French doors but I like the ability say if the doors didn't align properly at least passengers could get off.
Jügren van der Kaas Do you have many examples where this has been a problem? I would say it's quite a rare event where the doors don't align properly - especially on ATO (automatic train operator) systems. I like the French doors. Have you seen them in action in Paris? I'd say they work very well on line 1 of the metro.
+Svartmetall Sverige! I'm speaking about metro systems like New York where they have different door configurations. No doubt with ATO and the fact the Stockholm trains doors are all the same it won't be a problem for them
+Jügren van der Kaas Indeed, the rolling stock needs to either have the same door configuration or you need to use a more expensive door solution, much like the Japanese did, but that was highly expensive and not appropriate for all systems.
Jag tror så här, 1:an är säkrast, 2:an är snyggast och 3:an är lättast för tågförarna att stanna vid. I think this way, number 1 is the safest, number 2 is the best-looking, and number 3 is the easiest for the train drivers to stop at
Different designs and mechanisms. The option one door goes behind the screen, the option 2 door goes inside a pocket. As you can see, Stockholm uses little stones on the ground for grip during snow/icy periods, so the different mechanisms could mean that the doors get stuck at different rates depending on how they open/close.
Räckte det inte med varningsskyltar? "Nej medel-svensson hoppade ner på spåret ändå, och nu är problemet så stort att vi måste försinka tåget 10 sekunder på varje station"
The doors are slower partially because it is a test and the driver had to walk off the train and push a button to open the doors. This caused a delay. In cities with the system installed there is barely a noticeable difference. I would not judge based on Stockholm City / Odenplan stations for the pendeltåg either - those are some of the slowest I've ever seen!
+Jonne H The trains on the green line have the potential to be self-driving, so that would eliminate the problem with misalignment with the platform screens. There are also other metro systems that use platform doors without having auto-driving metro trains with few problems - platform doors are becoming more common in Tokyo, and nearly all metro systems in China (including HK) have platform doors. =)
Is this test still going on? How does it work in the winter? For me, I'd like to see option 1 which I saw in Paris. It seems to work well and I like the half-height of the doors. Option 3 looks weird to me even if it's well-working...
Yeah this was actually it being trialled in winter believe it or not (that's why there are lots of those little stones everywhere on the ground). It seemed to work just fine, and I agree with you, too. I like the Parisian doors. I saw them in Paris and thought they'd fit best for Stockholm.
Version 3 wäre für Deutschland gar keine schlechte Idee, denn fast überall in Deutschland gibt es verschiedene Zugmodelle, mit teilweise unterschiedlichen Türabständen, die bunt gemischt auf allen Linien fahren. Eine Linie einheitlich befahren zu lassen, wäre wegen den Kosten nicht unbedingt eine Option und auch verschiedene Linien vor allem in Deutschland am selben Bahnsteig abfahren.
I'd probably agree with you there to a point. Full height doors underground are much nicer, but more difficult when you have vaulted ceilings (like one does in Odenplan for example).
these doors where in testing purpose at that station thats why it was outdoors just to see how well it would work and then they might install one that worked best in all subways underground.
Odenplan Citybanan (Pendeltåg) station has full height doors, but the green line with the vaulted ceiling doesn't because it's much more difficult to enclose such a structure.
Day 1 of the new platform doors would be like this: when the service starts in the morning workers notice graffiti paint on every door in the metro and it takes weeks to clean. But seriously, option 1.
+OntarioTrainBoy Can I ask what makes you so sure? I think they would be okay given the Paris Metro ones are kept clean and nice. In fact, that surprised me when I was there just how well they were kept despite Paris being quite the haven for graffiti. The tunnelbana stations are also very free of graffiti too, SL cleans them regularly if any appears.
John Olsson To prevent people from being pushed (or falling) into the tracks during busy periods of operation. Really they'll be installed at the busiest stations on the network like T-Centralen, but they are being tested at a less busy station (Åkeshov) with a third spare platform just in case there is failure. They also wanted to see how the doors would cope with winter conditions (and gravel) to see if the doors could be expanded across the network if required in the future. Do I think they're needed? Not necessarily, but it's good to make sure we can future-proof our network I guess. =)
John Olsson I agree, currently there is a delay as the river has to physically get out of the train and walk to the door controls and use a key on them (unless this has changed recently). This really slows things down considerably. On other systems that have these doors that I've used, they can be opened and closed automatically by a control in the train itself so they take no longer than normal door opening, which is more of an ideal situation.
+Johan Gladgroda Perrongdörrarna ska egentligen öppnas samtidigt som tågdörrarna öppnas, men detta är nog ett test så de är inte synkroniserade än! Sök på France Metro Line 1 eller liknande för att se hur det egentligen ska gå till! (Har själv sätt de i Paris)
From my experience abroad, it is incredibly rare that a driver gets it wrong. I'm in Japan at the moment and many systems here have platform doors thanks to the massive passenger volumes. They never have trouble lining up with them to my knowledge (and this is the fourth time my wife and I have been here). I've also seen such doors in Paris, in London, in Dubai, in Singapore, in Beijing, in Tianjin and in Shanghai. All are built wider than the actual doors to allow some leeway for driver error and so are not a problem. The only time fixed door widths are a problem is when there are multiple door configurations. Even that has been solved in Japan with movable doors.
Yep indeed, it does. It's a warning. Some metros use a beep. You should hear the Berlin metro warning - it uses two different tones. Japanese railways even play a melody at some stations as a train departure warning!
1.Option 1: Ser stabil, hög och säkrast ut! 2.Option 2: Ser bäst ut (matchar jättebra till tågen) men är lite för låg! 3.Option 3: Ser mycket lustig ut och skulle nog inte klara väder med till exempel tung snö och is som ligger på linorna!
+David Axelsson Hi David! Cheers for the analysis! I actually agree with a lot of your analysis. The first option (Parisien) works very well in Paris on the metro system there, and I was pleased to see it cope with the stones and snow here in Sweden. Option two definitely does look the best indeed, but yeah, it is slower and not as high as the Paris option. The third option is actually used in both Japan and South Korea, both areas that have quite a bit of snow. It would be interesting to see how this survived here in Stockholm, though. I wonder if a report is out yet as this was almost a year ago now!
Neither. I prefer the ones on the Jubilee line on the London Underground because they are suicide proof & they are quick. Options 1&2 are kinda pointless because you can still jump infront of the train in the gaps between the doors. Option 3 is too slow
Which gaps are you referring to? Are you talking about going over the top of the barriers? Suicide prevention is not really the main focus of such doors, they are a deterrent to suicide, yes, but that is not what they are being installed for. They are being installed because it is incredibly busy in the central portion of the tunnelbana and therefore to prevent people from accidentally falling into the track they will be installed. The Jubilee line (or HK MTR, and other similar full length platform screens) require an appropriate ceiling. This is not present in many of the stations here in Stockholm, and that makes things more difficult for the installation.
They are quite widely used around the world and are convenient. The Korean rope doors are quite flexible and a novel way to solve the barrier problem. To be honest I'd be happy to have any of these systems!
True, but then we do have electronic signs at three locations on the platform at each station too, so hopefully there is enough information out there for people without needing the side of the train.
Känns inte helt bekvämt med skärmdörrar, det finns många som tågsurfar och hur ska dom kunna komma av på ett säkert sätt? (Ps. Jag stödjer inte tågsurfande)
One would argue that with screen doors it would be Darwinism in action if train surfers are caught out and cannot safely dismount from the train. Might actually dissuade them from trying in the first place. From having used many systems around the world with the doors, I quite like having doors.
+Peter Larssonhedlöf Indeed, but imagine the "energy cost" for almost one million journeys a day by car or by bus by comparison. The tunnelbana is energy efficient, it is quick, it is also space efficient. Couple this with the fact that Sweden sources most of its electricity from either renewable or non-fossil fuel sources, I think that we're onto a winner.
Have you concider the idea to let people work in their homedistict instead ! The subway between kobane and damascus needs eco clean energy a new fresh powerplant using the eufrat river can solve the energy problemo. And selling cameras to every appartment building in aleppo with security doors snd electric key tags will be sky high. The main thing IS that Assad installing a brand new smart home that you can controll by your smartphone and its all eco clean he also has new app that deliver a smart soulotion To a complex matter thats why he has a new elevator in his house based on eco clean energy. For the future workers can travel between damascus and vladivostock in a tube in no time and its eco clean than go by train from the new bridge at bering strait to alaska and its the best eco clean system in alaska the workers can take superfast magnetic train to boston And in boston they change to rolling stairs thst goes to washington Ac/Dc
I quite like option three as it's a novel design. I wonder how well it'll cope with lots of ice, though as that will increase the weight on the ropes quite a lot.
+Florian Rochler Yeah, it does at the moment. The reason is that the drivers cannot control them from their cab, and they have to get out of the train and push a button on the platform. This slows things down a lot more than would otherwise happen if it were officially implemented.
I like the paris. Its mostly around here, like the london tube and paris metro, it looks better and you cant stick your hand out. Metro drivers are trained to stop perfectly and they could do the same as pendeltåg in Stckhm city and odenplan, that there will be a screen where to stop. The shangai also works but imagine somebody accedeantly puf his hand over… the korean kinda sucks, its ugly and imagine if somebody gets bonked in their head, if that ever would happen
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The Paris one at busy stations because they're foolproof and quick, and option 3 as a novelty at outer less busy stations
+Louis Hypothetical Haha! The rope ones would look a little strange underground admittedly, I am not sure if they have them underground in Daegu where they are deployed. The Parisian ones are nice - I saw them everywhere on the Paris metro and they worked pretty well.
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I agree 👍
They sound exactly like the Romanian ones, but the design is different. So cool!
Definitely the Gilgen doors(option 1) as they are higher than other doors
I like the Paris ones, they are really nice. I've been on metro line 1 and they worked really well.
Yeah I agree. They work very well indeed.
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When those trains arrive and depart, it sounds very similar to the British Rail Class 375/376/377/378/379/387 Electrostar type of trains. Also, a bit like the Victoria Line on the London Underground.
And also at 1:40 it uses the same announcement chime as the Southeastern High Speed British Rail Class 395 Javelin.
These trains have been around for quite a bit now - since 1998 they've been on the network, so they're a fair bit older. I think the sound is quite similar these days for many motors that use AC motors. I still miss those old DC motors on the tube, though. They had such a classic sound.
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I don't know if these doors would be compatible with the C20 and C30 rolling stocks since the doors are at different lengths.
I think the korean one would be more compatible with the varying fleet.
Option 1 is probably the best, modern, high, safe. Option 2 looks good but is too low, and option 3 just looks odd
If multiple trains share the same platform and they have all different door position and size, number 3 is a good option. Also you can escape easily when emergency occures.
@@DMTHOTH great opinion
You can easily makes option 3 higher...
I think option 3 is best for lines with multiple door configurations, or lines with passing trains which can cause massive pressure that might break the window. Not really for metro lines tho.
Good points
The glass wont break of pressure. They are made to not break and its not made by real glass. The London tube has the same and it has never broken. And the tube arrives and depart faster then the stckhm metro so imagine that. And im not meaning it departs faster to get quickly to next station, cuz that is correct either way, i mean driving into the platform in the tube is around 35 - 30 mph and in stckhm they are only allowed max speed 50 “KMH” arriving at a station. The tube is maybe a little bit faster, but they got diffrent learning because it has so good breaks, thats why they drive so fast
1:40 That's the chime from UK National Rail Southeastern High Speed Class 395 Javelin.
It's also used on the Copenhagen S trains. I suppose it's a fairly common chime.
1:an är väl typ som de som används i citybanan för pendeltåget, bara att de var lite lägre än vad de är i citybanan
What about Australian screen doors from Sydney Metro? These doors were made by Faiveley Transport.
The PSD might be delayed, but I think the Paris metro is the best. But they need some changes if they close that door quickly.
Option 2. We already have a version of this in Singapore
Not a big fan of Chinese designs though. Would rather have something else from elsewhere.
The doors at Singapore are high as the 1st one but made in Singapore by ST Electronics
Svartmetall Sverige! What about the Platform Edge doors on the Jubilee line have you seen them yet I think the platform edge Doors on the Jubilee line London Underground are the best
@@svartmetall48 Singapore's platform screen doors at overground stations looks like Option 2 but are mostly made by Westinghouse instead (& we also have full-height doors at underground stations, some from other makers too e.g. Fairveley for Downtown Line (1 of them fell onto an oncoming train though once))
Interesting! We tried this with Helsinki Metro and it didn't work out that well.
It'll be interesting to see whether it all works out for Stockholm too. I think, other than at the busiest stations, it will be unnecessary overall.
So what is the result of that testing? Are they installing platform doors along the metro now? I only know of pendeltåg doors in Stockholm City.
They only have the platform doors at two stations (pendletåg/commuter rails). It's in Stockholm City and Odenplan. The test you see in this video were stopped because it would cost too much but now they are going to test again and eventually buy these.
@@maxprivat2295 Thank you for your insides. Yes it would cost too much but might be worth for the most busy stations. I think the outside stations won't need that. At which stations are they testing them again?
In the budget for 2019 they voted yes to, it says one indoor and one outdoor station are going to get those barriers for test. They are currently under the planing phase but they voted yes to it. Probaly the test will start under the summer. On tuesday they will have a meeting about it.
Wow, thanks a lot for the insights. So let's see which stations are getting them. I assume it will be along the green lines as the other lines use a mix of the old and modern trains (not sure if they have the same door positions).
Yeah but the old trains will be taken out of service and the regular trains (as on the green line) and the brand new C30-trains will be used on the red line. They will start using some of the new trains in the autumn. ruclips.net/video/2cfxHhpYF-s/видео.html
Did they ever make their decision? It's interesting to know what the outcome was.
no, they still don't have screen doors
If the Korean style doors used clear plastic panels as oppose to wire rope, I would probably go for it. and of the frames are properly integrated into the stations I reckon I would choose this design. They may even look at garage style doors where they can go over the top of the train when they are open.
+Jügren van der Kaas Interesting thought. Why do you prefer this kind of door over the other two out of interest? Many seem to be a little sceptical about the Korean design.
+Svartmetall Sverige! Well if there were any issues trying to align the train doors with the platform doors these ones would be the best. I do prefer the French doors but I like the ability say if the doors didn't align properly at least passengers could get off.
Jügren van der Kaas Do you have many examples where this has been a problem? I would say it's quite a rare event where the doors don't align properly - especially on ATO (automatic train operator) systems.
I like the French doors. Have you seen them in action in Paris? I'd say they work very well on line 1 of the metro.
+Svartmetall Sverige! I'm speaking about metro systems like New York where they have different door configurations. No doubt with ATO and the fact the Stockholm trains doors are all the same it won't be a problem for them
+Jügren van der Kaas Indeed, the rolling stock needs to either have the same door configuration or you need to use a more expensive door solution, much like the Japanese did, but that was highly expensive and not appropriate for all systems.
Jag tror så här, 1:an är säkrast, 2:an är snyggast och 3:an är lättast för tågförarna att stanna vid.
I think this way, number 1 is the safest, number 2 is the best-looking, and number 3 is the easiest for the train drivers to stop at
what's the point of platform screen dors if there is a gap with no glass between the doors (platform)?
These are just example doors showcasing the designs from potential suppliers.
They are platform edge doors
Why are there only two at the front
2an är snyggast :)
How are option 1 and 2 even diffferent
Different designs and mechanisms. The option one door goes behind the screen, the option 2 door goes inside a pocket. As you can see, Stockholm uses little stones on the ground for grip during snow/icy periods, so the different mechanisms could mean that the doors get stuck at different rates depending on how they open/close.
The Paris one
+King Jr I quite like the Parisian one too. =)
Räckte det inte med varningsskyltar?
"Nej medel-svensson hoppade ner på spåret ändå, och nu är problemet så stort att vi måste försinka tåget 10 sekunder på varje station"
The doors are slower partially because it is a test and the driver had to walk off the train and push a button to open the doors. This caused a delay. In cities with the system installed there is barely a noticeable difference. I would not judge based on Stockholm City / Odenplan stations for the pendeltåg either - those are some of the slowest I've ever seen!
jeg likte glass dørene disse så mer solide . dem har slike på København metro å virker utmerket
Paris Metro (option 1)
detta kommer att fungera bra om tågen blir självkörande som linje 1 i Paris
nr 3 is most thankfull for the driver, beacuse it dosn´t take that much precision to stop correctly!
+Jonne H The trains on the green line have the potential to be self-driving, so that would eliminate the problem with misalignment with the platform screens. There are also other metro systems that use platform doors without having auto-driving metro trains with few problems - platform doors are becoming more common in Tokyo, and nearly all metro systems in China (including HK) have platform doors. =)
Is this test still going on? How does it work in the winter? For me, I'd like to see option 1 which I saw in Paris. It seems to work well and I like the half-height of the doors. Option 3 looks weird to me even if it's well-working...
Yeah this was actually it being trialled in winter believe it or not (that's why there are lots of those little stones everywhere on the ground). It seemed to work just fine, and I agree with you, too. I like the Parisian doors. I saw them in Paris and thought they'd fit best for Stockholm.
Version 3 wäre für Deutschland gar keine schlechte Idee, denn fast überall in Deutschland gibt es verschiedene Zugmodelle, mit teilweise unterschiedlichen Türabständen, die bunt gemischt auf allen Linien fahren. Eine Linie einheitlich befahren zu lassen, wäre wegen den Kosten nicht unbedingt eine Option und auch verschiedene Linien vor allem in Deutschland am selben Bahnsteig abfahren.
Very true, the different door configurations and different lengths of train would make the rope barriers (option 3) very flexible indeed.
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best is an combination... underground: glass in full high - outside of the city: door 3
I'd probably agree with you there to a point. Full height doors underground are much nicer, but more difficult when you have vaulted ceilings (like one does in Odenplan for example).
these doors where in testing purpose at that station thats why it was outdoors just to see how well it would work and then they might install one that worked best in all subways underground.
odenplan shows full hight doors, perfect.
my new meaning about door 3: not good, hands can get in and injurd
Odenplan Citybanan (Pendeltåg) station has full height doors, but the green line with the vaulted ceiling doesn't because it's much more difficult to enclose such a structure.
Day 1 of the new platform doors would be like this: when the service starts in the morning workers notice graffiti paint on every door in the metro and it takes weeks to clean. But seriously, option 1.
+OntarioTrainBoy Can I ask what makes you so sure? I think they would be okay given the Paris Metro ones are kept clean and nice. In fact, that surprised me when I was there just how well they were kept despite Paris being quite the haven for graffiti. The tunnelbana stations are also very free of graffiti too, SL cleans them regularly if any appears.
Option 1
Men va e dom bra för?
John Olsson To prevent people from being pushed (or falling) into the tracks during busy periods of operation. Really they'll be installed at the busiest stations on the network like T-Centralen, but they are being tested at a less busy station (Åkeshov) with a third spare platform just in case there is failure. They also wanted to see how the doors would cope with winter conditions (and gravel) to see if the doors could be expanded across the network if required in the future.
Do I think they're needed? Not necessarily, but it's good to make sure we can future-proof our network I guess. =)
Sant. De enda dåliga är att det tar sån tid att öppna dom.
John Olsson I agree, currently there is a delay as the river has to physically get out of the train and walk to the door controls and use a key on them (unless this has changed recently). This really slows things down considerably. On other systems that have these doors that I've used, they can be opened and closed automatically by a control in the train itself so they take no longer than normal door opening, which is more of an ideal situation.
+John Olsson de är väl att minska spårspring skulle jag tro :)
+Johan Gladgroda Perrongdörrarna ska egentligen öppnas samtidigt som tågdörrarna öppnas, men detta är nog ett test så de är inte synkroniserade än! Sök på France Metro Line 1 eller liknande för att se hur det egentligen ska gå till! (Har själv sätt de i Paris)
3 är bäst. Om föraren stannar lite för sent eller tidigt kan man fortfarande komma ut.
From my experience abroad, it is incredibly rare that a driver gets it wrong. I'm in Japan at the moment and many systems here have platform doors thanks to the massive passenger volumes. They never have trouble lining up with them to my knowledge (and this is the fourth time my wife and I have been here). I've also seen such doors in Paris, in London, in Dubai, in Singapore, in Beijing, in Tianjin and in Shanghai. All are built wider than the actual doors to allow some leeway for driver error and so are not a problem.
The only time fixed door widths are a problem is when there are multiple door configurations. Even that has been solved in Japan with movable doors.
it buzzes when they are open to closed
Yep indeed, it does. It's a warning. Some metros use a beep. You should hear the Berlin metro warning - it uses two different tones. Japanese railways even play a melody at some stations as a train departure warning!
Definitely the Korean ones
1.Option 1: Ser stabil, hög och säkrast ut!
2.Option 2: Ser bäst ut (matchar jättebra till tågen) men är lite för låg!
3.Option 3: Ser mycket lustig ut och skulle nog inte klara väder med till exempel tung snö och is som ligger på linorna!
+David Axelsson Hi David! Cheers for the analysis! I actually agree with a lot of your analysis.
The first option (Parisien) works very well in Paris on the metro system there, and I was pleased to see it cope with the stones and snow here in Sweden.
Option two definitely does look the best indeed, but yeah, it is slower and not as high as the Paris option.
The third option is actually used in both Japan and South Korea, both areas that have quite a bit of snow. It would be interesting to see how this survived here in Stockholm, though. I wonder if a report is out yet as this was almost a year ago now!
Neither. I prefer the ones on the Jubilee line on the London Underground because they are suicide proof & they are quick. Options 1&2 are kinda pointless because you can still jump infront of the train in the gaps between the doors. Option 3 is too slow
Which gaps are you referring to? Are you talking about going over the top of the barriers?
Suicide prevention is not really the main focus of such doors, they are a deterrent to suicide, yes, but that is not what they are being installed for. They are being installed because it is incredibly busy in the central portion of the tunnelbana and therefore to prevent people from accidentally falling into the track they will be installed. The Jubilee line (or HK MTR, and other similar full length platform screens) require an appropriate ceiling. This is not present in many of the stations here in Stockholm, and that makes things more difficult for the installation.
that is platform gates
I like 1 2 designs nice, but look so inconvenience
They are quite widely used around the world and are convenient. The Korean rope doors are quite flexible and a novel way to solve the barrier problem. To be honest I'd be happy to have any of these systems!
Korean version are one inconveniant, make difficult to see display above subway doors. The terminus are indicated in display above subway doors. :/
True, but then we do have electronic signs at three locations on the platform at each station too, so hopefully there is enough information out there for people without needing the side of the train.
Känns inte helt bekvämt med skärmdörrar, det finns många som tågsurfar och hur ska dom kunna komma av på ett säkert sätt?
(Ps. Jag stödjer inte tågsurfande)
One would argue that with screen doors it would be Darwinism in action if train surfers are caught out and cannot safely dismount from the train. Might actually dissuade them from trying in the first place.
From having used many systems around the world with the doors, I quite like having doors.
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the time of this video is 7:00
the last one!
Nummer gillar jag mest, den är lite mer unik (och häftigare!) än de andra!
Energi kostnaden för t banan i stand by läge är lika stor som hushålls konsumtionen i jönköping under 1 år!
+Peter Larssonhedlöf Indeed, but imagine the "energy cost" for almost one million journeys a day by car or by bus by comparison. The tunnelbana is energy efficient, it is quick, it is also space efficient. Couple this with the fact that Sweden sources most of its electricity from either renewable or non-fossil fuel sources, I think that we're onto a winner.
Have you concider the idea to let people work in their homedistict instead !
The subway between kobane and damascus needs eco clean energy a new fresh powerplant using the eufrat river can solve the energy problemo.
And selling cameras to every appartment building in aleppo with security doors snd electric key tags will be sky high.
The main thing IS that Assad installing a brand new smart home that you can controll by your smartphone and its all eco clean he also has new app that deliver a smart soulotion
To a complex matter thats why he has a new elevator in his house based on eco clean energy.
For the future workers can travel between damascus and vladivostock in a tube in no time and its eco clean than go by train from the new bridge at bering strait to alaska and its the best eco clean system in alaska the workers can take superfast magnetic train to boston
And in boston they change to rolling stairs thst goes to washington Ac/Dc
These need to be full height. A major youth gang fight would just push any victim over barriers the gangs chose to murder.
well... I dont think so.. why would they lol right now they could just push it without any barrier
1. Paris 2.shanghai 3.Korea
i prefer the 2nd one
1 or 2 is better
Open tracks
3 är bäst.
I quite like option three as it's a novel design. I wonder how well it'll cope with lots of ice, though as that will increase the weight on the ropes quite a lot.
TAKES AGES
+Florian Rochler Yeah, it does at the moment. The reason is that the drivers cannot control them from their cab, and they have to get out of the train and push a button on the platform. This slows things down a lot more than would otherwise happen if it were officially implemented.
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Qui est là grâce à ortferroviaire ?!
HK long live MTR
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I like the paris. Its mostly around here, like the london tube and paris metro, it looks better and you cant stick your hand out. Metro drivers are trained to stop perfectly and they could do the same as pendeltåg in Stckhm city and odenplan, that there will be a screen where to stop. The shangai also works but imagine somebody accedeantly puf his hand over… the korean kinda sucks, its ugly and imagine if somebody gets bonked in their head, if that ever would happen
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China
1 and 2 are useless
blir jobbigare o klottra... :(
That's probably a good thing, no? Choose some nice art wall in the city to graffiti.
beror på vilket perspektiv man ser det ifrån...
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