@Emperor AugustusHmm... USA won every major engagement. What your talking about is really bad politics and politicians running the course of the war. Lol
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@@esoxkid06 He's probably talking about the Vietnam War, during which the Vietnamese dealt the Americans a crushing defeat. The Americans lost all their objectives, while the Vietnamese realised all their objectives. Or he's talking about Afghanistan, where after 17 years of war the US failed to defeat the Taliban, even though several allies of the US like the Danish, Dutch, British, French and Germans did manage to defeat the Taliban. Right now the Americans have been forced to the negotiating table by the victorious Taliban and it's expected they will from now on play a part in the government, while the US wanted its puppet Karzai regime on the throne instead. Or he's talking about Indonesia, where the Dutch and their allies curbstomped the Bersiap racist and religious terrorist group, and after being victorious, the Americans decided to instead surrender to an islamist terror group like that, which proceeded to found the rogue state of Indonesia that invaded several other countries and imposes sharia law to this very day in 2019. Basically the US surrendered without even fighting. Or he's talking about Iraq, where the US staged a hasty and retarded invasion, which proceeded to escalate into a religious civil war that ground down American military capacity untill they were forced to withdraw, Or he's talking about Syria, where the Americans went in untill Putin ordered the American leader to withdraw, and he simply had to obey. The Americans fled, and the the tyrant Assad, a puppet ruler of Russia, will soon restore his regime to power. Putin will win, the US will lose. Dumb burgerboos scream angrily at this fact and point out that according to their own definition, they never lost a fight.
Welcome to running a beautifully designed and machined, lightweight, aluminium aircraft engine with appalling low grade synthetic petrol made from coal, through a transmission designed for a tank weighing 20 tons less, through final drives made of poor quality metal with badly shaped gears, into huge wide tracks that create huge ground resistance in turns, all with the engine compartment being waterproofed for deep wading the tank will never undertake, resulting in poor cooling, and a gross lack of spare parts due to supply shortages. In short, it wasn't the engine's fault. The Maybach HL230 was a work of art. The entire vehicle around it, and the situation in 1945??? About as bad it it gets. Poor engine.
Well, it is a what if game afterall but regarding the 105. It would comport the same as a normal KTH but will only have a different gun and a bit less survivable (turret side ammo storage) The WT model is really wrongly made. Also they never said they will remove it + givin how the latest changes completly killed realism I don't see what hurts to have the same tank with a different gun.
@@reid1283 There were approximately 200 M26 deployed to Europe, against 400 Tiger 2, 1000 Tiger 1, and 6000 Panthers. If you consider that a third of the German tanks were on the Western front, that's still a lot. Anyway, if it was really accurate there would be no point playing Germany because you would ultimately always loose
Maxime Carpentier But most Tigers were destroyed by bombing raids, meaning only around 150 actually fought. This is also being compared to 60,000 Shermans I think the teams would be like this USA 1 M26 5 Jumbos 30M4 (76)s of various types 30M4 (75)s 8 chaffe and Stuart tanks 20 M36s/M10s Germany 1 Tiger II 5 Tigers 10 Panthers 30 Panzer IVs and STUGs
Every hit the Firefly receives sets it on fire and has a high chance of causing a ammo-rack explosion. That was literally why it received the nickname 'firefly'.
@@DaruGaming420 No... it was named the Firefly because of the Muzzle flash. And only early shermans had this problem, by the time of production of Fireflies, that problem was fixed.
@Abd Mzn Quite on a contrary. I've talked to several former Korean War Sherman crews and asked why the Firefly wasn't continued being used after WW2, and they say exactly that. The muzzle flash excuse, even though it was prominent but that was never the true reason why it was called Firefly. Historians took the muzzle flash excuse as fact because they didn't want to talk negatively about the Firefly. There's a reason why the Firefly never saw service beyond WW2, and a muzzle flash problem wouldn't have prevented a tank from being used in service if it was so effective. Personally I would rather believe men who were on a battlefield rather than a bunch of seat-warming historians.
@Dwarov 1 Yea and do you see tanks driving backwards at other tanks? Most tanks are angled only from the front... And almost no tank is well protected from the back or even side.
YeetHammer40k Allied tanks don't have weakspots that obvious like the Tiger II does. They literally put a line on the side of the tank to aim at and you generally one-shot them. The Allies have so many different tank designs that you tend to forget the weakspots.
@@jungletrouble8296 US Tanks have plenty of weakspots too, like the shot trap on M26 and M46s (lower edge of the mantlet), to the obvious welded on plates on the sides of a Sherman that mark the ammo rack.
@@jermasbiggestfan7796 Because most people who play the Tiger II are dumb and think it is invincible. If you meet a player who actually knows how to play the Tiger II, you're going to get wiped out of existence.
i mean considering all the Videos i have seen about thanks the sentence should be "It wouldnt be a heavy tank if the transmission doesnt randomly break"
Tiger IIs weren't at the battle of Kursk. Kursk took place in 1943, Tiger IIs weren't delivered to units until 1944. All German "big cats" had reliability issues that were never solved.
@Proud Kekistani Strategic bombing had little effect on German tank production. Hilary Doyle explains this in Operation Think Tank. Late war German tanks had mechanical issues because they 1. were fundamentally flawed due to bad design processes (political meddling and such) and 2. relied on fundamentally flawed components like the HL230 engine and double spur final drives.
@Hans Blitzkrieg No fundamentally, the problem was that when you have a tank with a power-to-weight ratio as bad as a Tiger II's, you either have to accept that it will be painfully slow, which the Germans would not accept, or you have to get the speed they wanted from the transmission. But that means more gears, more frequent gear-switching, more friction, and more wear. Low power-to-weight ratio, speed, and transmission reliability form a trinity of design trade-offs: you can have any two, but never all three. You can have light (relative to its engine power), fast tank with a reliable transmission, a heavy, slow tank with a reliable transmission, or a heavy, fast tank with an unreliable transmission, but you can never have a heavy, fast tank with a reliable transmission.
@@Spookston Isn't that a bit unfair to say, when many of the Tiger units complained it was due to lack of maintenance time? You can't run a complex machine over maintenance schedules and then get upset when it breaks. The Tigers rarely got combat breaks, despite being expected to need more maintenance than the medium tanks. Even accounting for mechanical issues, they managed over 5 knock outs to every total loss. And that's even going against forces that vastly outnumbered them. All I'm saying is in the context of the conditions they ran they were as reliable as their contemporaries. And yet we have everyone parroting these 'facts' without examining the full picture. Your "Best Modern Tank" video was pretty well done, so I am kind of surprised to see you slipping into lazy oversimplifications in this video.
Yeah as if the Tiger II is the only WWII heavy tank in the game that has to face the scawy post war tanks. Ever heard of T29, T34, T32, IS-2? Hell, Germany has the best Post-War 6.7 Tank in the game in the form of RU251, and never has to deal with the disease that is Italian cars.
Not all. It depends on the tanks because bad welding was only on the late ware rushed tanks or over engineered tanks. For example, I highly doubt the Panzer IV H or G or what not would hull brake from a 122 HE round, but if it was shot with a 152mm or bigger, probably would. So basically, it depends on the size of the round and what it was fired upon.
And even when they overperform in War Thunder, their flaws are very obvious when compared to its contemporaries. It's why I do not like the Tigers and other late war german tanks in general. They forgot what made the Panzers III and IV so good and they did not take good lessons from vehicles like the Sherman.
It was actually a great idea making panthers and tigers because tanks need both oil, and men, which germany was very much lacking at the time. If hitler had made thousands more panzer 4s they would not be used due to lack of equipment, men, and oil.
@@FlenTiX1 I don't think so, I'd rather have a vehicle that's easy to operate than a bunch of tanks in which is extremely difficult to operate and any slight mistake can lead to total failure, panzer 4 really is the way
@Pommy Pie Thats because of the expense mostly, most countries that used these tanks weren't major powers. Also more of them produced means more left over tanks to sell to other countries.
@@ulfenburg7539 eh it was more of 50/50, I think Military History Visualized made a video about it. And at what stage Germany was, better build less tanks that are more armored and have more firepower than hundreds of Panzer IVs that you can fuel them all.
@@alexsv1938 yeah i know that. that also makes sense but if you do that and you produce something that has a high chance of breaking down then it doesnt really matter
You forgot: - a 1 before the crew level (150) -fire extinguishers as standard -enemy tanks should get "knocked out" if the Tiger2 looks at them because their crews bail out in fear And: -the large calibre HE hullbreaking is true for EVERY ww2 tank, not just the Tiger 2 in particular -the RoF idk where u got that from, with the best crew it could be reloaded in 5s -the turret rotation speed related to engine is true to most ww2 tanks as well
This video wouldn't get approved even on Wikipedia in this state, as it relies way too heavily on a single source. He forgot just as many sources as this commenter
Koneic eeeexept that the engine rpm wasn't always linked to the turret rotation speed, as I know the the Sherman used an electric drive that would always keep up the same speed and I believe the T-34/85 had the same, but don't pin me on that. The large HE hulbreaking was more applicable to german tanks due to shitty latewar armor quality. (Although the Russian armor what's harder and more susceptible to spalling) And while a good loader could easily slam a round into the breach every 5 seconds, he can't maintain that for a long time as is always the case with human loaders and eventually would drop in time. If you where to take into account that loading shells in battle conditions is slower than in testing conditions, I pretty much believe that 8,9 seconds is the case for the ready rack. I haven't read any reports about tank crews bailing out when seeing a tiger... as that is just plain stupid. If you see the tiger first, you don't bail out, you either drive away before he spots you or you shoot. If he spots you, he shoots first. Why leave the relative safety of your tank when you can just reverse out of that situation?
@@Arwun you are a prime example of why wehraboo's are so bad, the m4 was praised because it deserves to be, it was far better than any crap Germany produced. Now i know you won't believe me, because wehraboos have this absolute superiority complex about their beliefs, but here are some things that make the m4 amazing -it was a decently spacious tank -it was very ergonomic benifiting all crew members -every one had a periscope (take notes Panther) -every one had a spring loaded hatch to bail out of -extremely reliable tank -spare parts always available -easy to repair because of its modular component design. Oh and it had the best survival crew survival rate out of any tank of the war.
not trying to be a weaboo or anything but the tests at Kubinka weren't particularly fair as they removed the MG machine gun ball thing weakening the whole front of the tank along with structural components. If you don't belive me look it up
@Dwarov 1 The T-34 when first introduced was able to be taken out by the 50mm (found in Pz. III and sometimes even the 37mm AT guns) frontally because of the poor armor quality. Of course at that time the T-34 was more likely to take itself out of battle due to unreliability anyway. In fact it was so unreliable they thought its production was being sabotaged
@Dwarov 1 THe T-34 was not the best tank in the war if you account for the fact that almost all AT guns could penetrate it after 42, which they did. IT could be considered the best if you only consider the pros of the T 34, but it had engine malfunctions and transmission malfunctions and no two T-34s were made the same, so maintenance was a nightmare to the point where they just replaced it instead of bothering to fix it. The Best T-34 was the 85mm varients due to the better gun, but even then, with only 2 crew in the turret, it would have been a night mare if you go up against multiple German tanks, all of which would penetrate you before you could fire a second round. The Best tank of the war was the........ PaKwAgOn SpEeDy BoI.
I swear, if I have my Tiger II's front plate ignored by HEAT-FS after getting uptiered to 7.0 one more time my body is going to just fall apart into lego pieces on the floor. >is a german heavy tank >relies on gun and armour >gets uptiered to 7.0-7.7 >armour stops existing >gun is only useful when targetting weakspots and sides >mobility is still trash >gets HEAT-FS'd to death constantly >8k repair cost. >only have ~100k on average >I'm_never_gonna_financially_recover_from_this.png
What’s a wehraboo. Is it because I like the German military equipment. Does that make me a nazi somehow? Because I like a tank that was one of the best in ww2.
But war thunder works off "in theory", because in war thunder the tanks are made to work how the original constructor had intended. So in theory each tank is running perfect to it's design
If everything in this game was adjusted to be 100 percent accurate I would come back. Because that way the only thing we could complain about would be gaining implementation of these features. I love ur channel so much. Keep it up!
He's already done T-34, unless your talking about the American one. KV-2: when firing on a surface not close to level, the turret drive takes damage to the weight & balance of the gun, at step angles the turret falls of entirely
KV-2: - extremely low turret traverse due to it being hand cranked - massive weight of the gun means high chance for the tank to fall over when on a slope - extremely long reload times due to massive gun - turret can only be traversed on relatively flat ground - cannot be spawned on any map on the western front - cannot be spawned on any map after 1942 - only 2 can be spawned per match due to low production numbers - inadequate crew hatches can cause the crew members to "die" and have their stats reset
“Extremely low production numbers means only one Tiger II can be spawned per match”. Meanwhile, the T95 you say could have 2 spawned per match which is the entire amount of T95’s ever built.
This is one of the things that I never got when German players complained about post war tanks. The late war tanks that they have perform far and beyond what they ever were capable of in real life, so much so that they may as well be post war tanks themselves. That and they have quite a few fictional vehicles as well. Great video btw.
Exactly. I usually made a joke to further trigger those fanboi that by the time the German manage to iron out all the technical problemS on their late-war tanks so that they can perform as good as they intended it to be, American would already be mass producing M47s in large number.
German tanks might be overperforming, but it's not like the allies didn't have ANY performance problems that aren't displayed in the game. That is something that people seem to forget.
@@lidlpotato2047 Sure, but with the way WT is set up you don't see many of the advantages that Allied tanks had. Wet rack ammo stowage isn't a thing for the M4 Ws, and neither do you see the advantages of their increased reliability, ease of shipping, or ridiculously good ergonomics. Hell, they even nerfed the historical reload rates because of "crew fatigue", which is a complete BS non issue. Yes, the Allies do benefit from the way the game is set up (especially the Russians), but they're also negatively affected, whereas for the Germans it's almost entirely positive.
Actually wrong. Tiger 2s had one of the most experienced crews left in the whole germany. Also, HE rounds couldn't even penetrate the turret, because it'a true that the steel was low quality, but in war thunder tiger 2 is basically made out of paper
Intrspace because there are versionst that arent limited to hp They limited it later because bad strategic position so they cant maintane the tanks as usual and the qualety overal on the material dekreased because of late war on all productions if you entcople the tiger 2 tecnical specs from the war fate you have way les issues (There was even a direkt injekted version of the hl230 planned to increase the hp to over 900hp but the war ended and never got in serial production
@@strellettes8511 Russian workmanship was often poor quality due to the socialist system: You don't work for a reward, there is no connection between your performance and your reward, you're forced to work. Production quotas were often set in numbers or kilograms and as long as you met those, nothing was wrong. There's a hilarious report of one factory producing nails that were nearly square and more than a full centimeter thick. The factory owner had figured out that since his quota was in kilogram of nails, the thicker he made the nails, the 'more' he could produce.
"The most powerful tank of World War II, a single 67-ton Tiger II could hold up a dozen Sherman tanks, and often did. Known variously as the Tiger B, King Tiger, and Royal Tiger, the Tiger II carried a crew of five, had a 600-horsepower engine and a maximum speed of 21.74 miles an hour, and boasted a cruising range of 105.57 miles. It could knock out with ease any Allied tank at considerable range, and its armor was so thick (1.58 inches to 7.09 inches) that few British or American weapons could destroy it. Fortunately for the Allies, production of the Tiger II behemoths was constantly disrupted by Anglo-American bombing raids and shortages of raw materials, so only 489 of them had entered service by the time the war ended." Michael D. Hull
This is actually Quite Wrong, Most of the time German forces would CONCENTRATE THEIR TANKS, Negating the Low Production Numbers and often being fairly close to Numbers against enemy forces. So only about 400 Tiger IIs were made, well that doesn't mean the Germans would only put 1 here and there and sprinkle them all over, That would go against their entire Military Doctrine and pretty much take their lessons from past experience in the war and throw it in the garbage, furthermore, If you would want to play the "Quality of Steel" Game, T34s on the Russian front was so poorly welded if you threw a Molotov Cocktail on it, the Burning Vodka would drip down onto the crew and burn them alive (50% Chance to be killed by Infantry). Furthermore, if you would like to be EVEN MORE Historically accurate, a Tiger II Usually had a Infantry Platoon following it (2 Squads) and that would probably be carrying Panzerfaust, and Panzerschreck, meaning if you were to encounter a Tiger II you have a random chance of being destroyed by its "Escorts". Or How about how NOTHING during the war Penetrated its Hull, So I guess we can't have that, because all the IS2 Kids and Jumbo kids wouldn't be able to get easy kills. I could go on and on, like how the m22 never really saw all that much combat, or maybe how Fiddy Cals didn't ever get used to kill tanks, or even better Germans had Jets before Americans, and never had to use them to fight KOREAN F**KING WAR JETS, or BEST OF ALL, Centurions and FV4202s didn't ever fight a Panther or Tiger or Tiger II, so we have to completely change the entire way the game works to be "Historically Accurate" also, how do you know the Tiger IIs wouldn't be given Priority for Fuel and then the Pz IV would run out of fuel? We would have to do the same thing on a bunch of maps for Shermans as they were low on fuel shortly before the Battle of the Bulge.
@@luistruemmler8008 Eh Not really, stating simple facts, as making 1 Tank "Historically" Accurate wouldn't be all that fair. As Germany is the most important country in War Thunder, without Germany Jumbos Would HAVE to Fight IS2s everytime, and they would be begging for Germany to come back
@Emperor Augustus I don't know how to reply to that xD, But Yeah my comment would trigger all the Fiddy Cal Kids, they think America had the best Tanks of the war, when in reality they were only Semi-Decent.
1. If it drives, it will catch fire 2. If it reaches hill, it will catch fire 3. When it spawns, it will break down 4. It catches fire 5. It has no fuel......... and catches fire.
In general for all tanks, after each bounce and non-penetration crew becomes disabled (stunned) for several seconds, defined by caliber of shell, speed of shell, shell penetration and type, thickness of armor, type of armor, place hit and hit vehicle type and weight.
@@MacSalterson There was this air combat simulator from a long time ago that used a certain system of honor points or the like. For example, after many missions with, say, a P-51 or a Bf 109, you could deploy your P-80 or your Me 262. Something similar could be done here: heavy tanks like the KV-1 or the Tiger could be unlocked after the first respawn if you did good enough, with a limit of one or two per team. Sort of like specialist positions in Red Orchestra.
Ian Pomfret untrue. The germans generally massed their panzer forces for tank battles and when they we’re thinned out, they feld back on ambush techniques because they we’re contantly falling back. Therefore the germans should either outnumber enemy tanks in combat or have capture points that are strategically better and far closer to their spawn
@@noudlindeman1931 The Germans simply didn't have the tank production to match the Soviets or Americans though, especially with their late war designs. The German army was super under-mechanized.
Ian Pomfret yup true. In total they we’re totally outnumbered and as you rightly pointed out not as mechanized as people think. The germans however massed their panzer(tank) forces into tank divisions allowing huge concentrations of tanks to oppose enemy tanks. This means that the germans would, in a tank to tank battle, not be outnumbered, despite being outnumbered in the war as a whole. The downside of this attack is of course that the Russians and Americans can spread their tanks out and attack infanty with their tanks.
Let me guess, a lot of interresting things will be said but the creator will forgot (again) to mention King tiger's BR would be reduced so that it would never face any vietnam war vehicle while one of the most dangerous things it could face would be the IS-2 Mod 44 ( not to mention that some things are a bit idiotic : " due to extremely limited training , maximum crew level would be 50 " thats ridiculous , german crews were poorly trained only in late war (at first they were among the bests if not the best) and those poorly trained crews were almost only given " weaker " german tanks like PZ4's and stugs . King tigers were almost only given to experienced or at least trained crews who had already seen combat)
Well... T-34-85 was used during the Vietnam War, along with Chaffee. So you're saying Tiger II should never face any Vietnam War vehicle, including T-34-85s and Chaffees. I see your point, they're too good for Tiger II.
@@AndrewVasirov Oh please you got my point you're just playing on words there when i'm talking about " vietnam war tanks" it's obvious i'm talking about things that were develloped for / during this war , t-34' 85's and chaffees were develloped during ww2 so yeah i didn't expressed myself at best but pointing that out is just more ridiculous than the "mistake" i made.
To make it short : If you wanted to be realisitc you wouldn't put the tiger 2 at a 6.7 BR that will make him almost only fight post ww2 vehicles. Isn't that interesting tho ? The tiger 2 needs to be put at a BR with post war tanks for it to be balanced ahah ( of course i know tanks in war thunder are on steroids and not 100% realistic )
even compared to some smaller tanks it was cramped as hell, you have to think that that the size of a 88mm breech compared to a 37-75mm it's a pretty big difference, also the tigers two's turret is a bit small for a heavy tank to start with.
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So you want Germany to suffer? Dude, its still a game, even with Sm battles players still want to have fun. If that were to be implemented, that the Tiger II should be allowed to fight mainly shermans and T34 85s, as that was what mainly opposed it. f you want it too be accurate like that, the Tiger II H would be at a tier of 4.7 or such essentially. The first thing a game is supposed to be is fun, not historically accurate, that comes next.
@@PilotTed The Tiger 2 would face stuff like the Su-152 and its HE shell would break the welds of the tank and destroy it. Its HE shell would destroy Panther and Tiger 1's by blowing their turrets off
@@sytricka3318 Tiger 2 would also only be facing Shermans and t-34s. If we're gonna go full historical. Maybe throw in a pershing once every 12 battles, since only 2 actually saw combat
@@CrazyDutchguys The tiger 2 was so rare that you would barely see them in WT, most of the time you would be facing PZ. 4s, Stugs, the occasional Panther and even then these tanks would still be greatly outnumbered by the allies. Also around 20 pershings actually saw combat in WW2
Despite the many inconsistencies and sloppy source referencing he has in these videos of him? He also never compares the stats, flaws or perks of the tanks to other tanks of the same calibre, so that a really distorted picture is produced in front of the viewers eye because the lack of information and context. I take your word. You really seem simple.
I get that these videos are more a way of entertainment. Especially for the ones on the globe whoms countries never won a "real" war again after the 2nd World War. And who mourn after a once truely great county. But he should at least put a disclaimer in front of his videos if he does not want to do quality content...
>many inconsistencies and sloppy source referencing [citation needed] >He also never compares the stats, flaws or perks of the tanks to other tanks Comparisons between tanks are never even mentioned anywhere in these videos, yet you're mad that there are no comparisons. >other tanks of the same calibre Tanks were not ranked after their caliber. >so that a really distorted picture is produced Oh you mean the picture of the most important aspects of warfare, which are logistics and industry? Rich coming from you to call me simple.
> never won a "real" war again after 2nd World War lmao baby can't deal with the fact that warfare has changed. > And who mourn after a once truely great county [sic] LMAO Germany is still an economic power house, even with Schlesien, Pommern and Ostpreußen gone. > but at least he should put a disclaimer in front of his videos if he does not want to do quality content... So Wehraboos like you don't get triggered? thank you kanye, very cool
Excuse me, but do you see the Words "Panzerkampfwagen V" or "Panther" in the title or description of this video? Is there a sign on my discussion that says "Panther Tank Discussion"?
Erika Itsumi: I won’t let you get away! Our target is the flag tank at 1 o’clock. (Her Tiger II’s left suspension breaks down and the left track falls off) Erika: Hey! Where are you going? What are you doing?! (The tank veers left before getting stuck in a ditch) Erika’s Driver: Showing something weird on the right dyno. Sorry! I’ve lost control!
Funny thing is people complain about historical accuracy and stuff in war thunder but they forget that it's a game at the end of the day. There have to be some changes made so that it's playable. No one would play a game that clings to every fact in history. Because guess what? History isn't fair.
I think it is pretty unfair to credit the actual tank with maintenance problems when said tank isn't maintained properly. That's like running a car for 100k on the same oil, then getting upset it stopped working. It isn't the fault of the car. Tigers were used as fire brigades - totally against their design and operators intention - which meant they were not maintained as necessary leading to their reliability problems. This was noted by the 503rd nearly immediately upon receiving their Tiger 1s: "Evaluation: There must be strict orders that, under no circumstances and at all levels of command, Tiger units must never be committed at less than company strength and that Panzer VIs and Panzer IIIs are not to be committed separately. The Tigers must be used as the battering ram as the attack advances and remain as a bulwark at the Schwerpunkt of the defense. Soldiers, in general, are of the opinion that the Tiger can do anything and everything. They do not understand that a newly developed weapon system has deficiencies and weaknesses that first need to be remedied as a result of increased experience and further development. Because of that, the danger exists that Tiger units may be assigned tasks that normal tank companies can perform without difficulty. As a result of continual movement and the resultant increased demands placed on running gear and power plants and lack of time allowed for technical service, damage occurs that results in Tiger units having mechanical problems when they are used. The maintenance facility must be able to work as long as possible at a single location, preferably a railroad station. When locations are changed, they have a particular need to know the final destination. The Tiger unit must, for the present, be kept as the unit commander’s last reserve, waiting in readiness behind a key sector so that it can force a decision when all other means fail. The Road March: The winter cleats offer inadequate protection against sliding sideways, which is a particular problem at present due to the many ice-covered ravines and embankments. The road-march speed meets requirements in every respect. Effects of Enemy Fire: Gunfire from enemy 7.62cm antitank guns did not achieve any penetrations of the company Tigers or cause severe damage. In one case, a hit on the top of the front of the commander’s cupola raised it somewhat because the weld broke and the cupola bolts shot inside the tank. The Russian Model 42 antitank rifle penetrated up to 17mm, measured on the driver’s front slope. The antitank rifle was encountered frequently; it was easily identifiable by its sizeable muzzle flash. In one case, a round hit the forward vision slot of the commander’s cupola at an angle, broke out one corner, ricocheted and made the vision block unusable. If it had been a direct hit, it probably would have penetrated. Most of the hits from the antitank rifles were close to the vision slits. A hit on the outer jacket tube of the 8.8 cm main gun, probably from a 45mm antitank gun, caused a sizeable indentation of the outer tube and a very slight indentation in the inner tube. Since the crew did not suspect a hit in that location, the firefight was carried on without any problem. Conduct of Fire: The main gun reliably achieved hits at up to 1500 meters with a well bore-sighted weapon. The effect and penetration performance of the 8.8cm gun against all targets up to now leaves no room for improvement."
@@WHOARETHEPATRIOTS475 Well... I remember reading somwhere that IS tank crews would flee at the mere sight of a Tiger II. So maybe if the transmission breaks in a "good area" it can still do its job.
I have the numbers right here. By May of 1945 the 12th Army Group had a total of 3043 M4s, 1449 75mm and 1594 76mm (Armored Thunderbolt by Steven Zaloga). Say I'm wrong all you want, but it's a fact.
It's funny that you always say negative things about german tanks and nothing positive. I am not an expert in history but for what I've read and watched, except for the early versions of the Panther and Tiger reliability wasn't such an issue. Call me wheraboo or whatever you want but your videos are pure propaganda. The sherman was not as bad as many believed but the German big cats were not as bad as you are trying to show.
@@XDestroyoxZx Tiger 2 was shit why? In 1944 Germany was on the defense so no need for fast tanks, they just needed tanks which could hold position and help in the retreat. Panthers and Tiger I could "easily" be destroyed by IS-2, T-34-85, or Shermans whit the long barrel so being underpowered was not a big issue to the Tiger 2 as it could resist much more than it's predecessors. The problem was when they used it as an offensive tank like in the Battle of the Bulge and anyways, reliability was not the main issue. Most King Tigers were destroyed by their crew because they ran out of fuel, not because reliability. Also considering that by 1943 the war was already lost for the germans they needed a tank that could change the fate of the war so no point in copying the Americans and the Russians on cheap mass produced tanks, no way they could produce more than both of them together and anyways why to produce more tanks if you don't have fuel for them. But yeah, it's great to say that it was shit and the Germans were idiots and didn't know anything before analysing the situation.
@@diegor8111 Maneuver is the essence of warfare. If you make a giant slow vehicle that swallows fuel it doesn't matter how well you armor it. It will (and was) defeated by better designed tanks, artillery, or air power. If you don't believe me when I say this I just need to tell you that a M8 Greyhound knocked out a "Tiger" with its 37mm cannon. (There's debate as to whether it was a Panther, Tiger 1, or Tiger 2). As for the Tiger 2 itself, it's a German heavy tank of WW2. This means it's known for not being reliable because of how stupid heavy the thing is for 1940s technology. Combine that with Germany's quite terrible logistics network and it means this thing is hard to maintain. The only thing I can give the King Tiger is that if you want to sit in a position and shoot at tanks from kilometers away it's a good choice but as soon as you need to move that thing you risk getting stuck (if your vehicle is knocked out more by crew having to abandon it because of the nightmarish logistical footprint it leaves than enemy fire, that's not a good sign). That doesn't sound like a very decisive vehicle, I don't understand how that's supposed to change the fate of the war.
Diego Rodríguez then Germany needed every resource as they were losing they could have built more hetzers a reliable t-34 killer and did not cost Germany a lot
@@XDestroyoxZx First it's maneuverability was ok for it's size. Second, it was a heavy tank it was not supposed to be fast that's why they had the Panther. Then I don't know which tank was better designed because it was far more advanced than any tank the allies or the russians had in between 1943-1945 until the IS-3 and T26 appeared. Don't forget that it was defeated by numbers and lack of resources. I know about the m8 destroying a Tiger 2. If the germans had scouted the zone before letting the Tiger advance that would never happened but well take it as you want. If Germany had the right amount of resources it wouldn't have been a problem to mantain it so I would blame the lack of resources not the tank itself. Appart from it's problems it was created to try changing the fate of the war when Germany was already lost. Call it last hope or however you want but it was designed for that. The Maus is another example of that philosophy. Do you get it now?
The BT tanks were good tank and were very good to do what they were designed to do the problem is that they weren’t used in the correct way (bad terrain, defensive role...) so they became innefective
@@homiespaghetti1522 You must be new here. With these videos you say a single thing that counters a statement made in these videos you are instantly branded a Wehraboo.
@Emperor Augustus Yeah. They whine about the Wehraboos being toxic and they are just as, if not more toxic themselves. Commieboos are the frigging worst though. Tell them their T-34 wasnt as good as they think it is and they will explode into a angry, Hissy pissy temper tantrum calling you every vile insult under the sun.
Jan Hemmer Why do so many people forget that these videos are meant as modifications to what War Thunder already showcases in game? These are historically accurate nerfs to the way War Thunder portrays the Tiger 2, and nothing more.
What positive points, exactly, am I forgetting? The best points of the German cats are their armor and gun, both of which are correctly (and in some cases, performing too well) in game.
@@Spookston what about automatic fire exringuishing system with 7 charges? What about comfortable pre-selector gearbox which actually enable the driver to switch to the last gear
@@AndrewVasirov i understand somewhat how you could make comparisons between the two. But most of them dont really make much sense. World of tanks isnt trying to be absolutely perfect in realism, and it never really has. The two games are so different in mechanics and general play. Its like people who compare destiny to warframe. Yes they are similar in concept, both being lootershooters, but they play so differently.
Another poorly researched video with a bunch of moot facts taken out of context and heavily over exaggerated. But I wouldn't expect any less from some narrow-minded Sherman apologist.
"suspension has a random chance to break" *Madlad yeets it across a hill and smacks ithe whole weight of the vehicle onto a small part of the suspension as he lands on the other hill *Suspension RANDOMLY breaks :D*
If the Tiger II in WT was realistic, it would only face weak and squishy allied medium tanks that don't stand a chance of penetrating it frontally or winning a long range duel. Also it would be a BR 4.7 tank, and every enemy that saw it would immediately run away or abandon the tank, out of fear.
*insert the fact that if it was in fact 100% accurate they would face so many tanks they would have no idea what to do... also it would still fight 85s and 76s, even though it would be harder it can still punch through the front in some places
while there are a few legit points you forgot one major thing.... if it was historically accurate it would sit at BR 5.7 since it only saw combat 1944-45 and mainly saw combat against inferior tanks like M4 shermans, T34-85s, Cromwells, IS 2s and sometimes M26s etc. Instead it sees mainly post war tanks like M41, M56, M50, T44-100, T54 etc etc.
German tank in ww2: _does nothing_
Its engine: *_i have decided that i want to die_*
The transmission: *c'ya, i'm outta here*
Hull when hit by HE shell :
"You know what?, screw this" *collapses to pieces*
@Emperor AugustusHmm... USA won every major engagement. What your talking about is really bad politics and politicians running the course of the war. Lol
@@esoxkid06
He's probably talking about the Vietnam War, during which the Vietnamese dealt the Americans a crushing defeat. The Americans lost all their objectives, while the Vietnamese realised all their objectives.
Or he's talking about Afghanistan, where after 17 years of war the US failed to defeat the Taliban, even though several allies of the US like the Danish, Dutch, British, French and Germans did manage to defeat the Taliban. Right now the Americans have been forced to the negotiating table by the victorious Taliban and it's expected they will from now on play a part in the government, while the US wanted its puppet Karzai regime on the throne instead.
Or he's talking about Indonesia, where the Dutch and their allies curbstomped the Bersiap racist and religious terrorist group, and after being victorious, the Americans decided to instead surrender to an islamist terror group like that, which proceeded to found the rogue state of Indonesia that invaded several other countries and imposes sharia law to this very day in 2019. Basically the US surrendered without even fighting.
Or he's talking about Iraq, where the US staged a hasty and retarded invasion, which proceeded to escalate into a religious civil war that ground down American military capacity untill they were forced to withdraw,
Or he's talking about Syria, where the Americans went in untill Putin ordered the American leader to withdraw, and he simply had to obey. The Americans fled, and the the tyrant Assad, a puppet ruler of Russia, will soon restore his regime to power. Putin will win, the US will lose.
Dumb burgerboos scream angrily at this fact and point out that according to their own definition, they never lost a fight.
Welcome to running a beautifully designed and machined, lightweight, aluminium aircraft engine with appalling low grade synthetic petrol made from coal, through a transmission designed for a tank weighing 20 tons less, through final drives made of poor quality metal with badly shaped gears, into huge wide tracks that create huge ground resistance in turns, all with the engine compartment being waterproofed for deep wading the tank will never undertake, resulting in poor cooling, and a gross lack of spare parts due to supply shortages.
In short, it wasn't the engine's fault. The Maybach HL230 was a work of art. The entire vehicle around it, and the situation in 1945??? About as bad it it gets. Poor engine.
German tank crews: WHY CAN'T YOU JUST BE NORMAL?
Tiger II: **cries, breaks transmission and catches on fire**
I can imagine that xD
Ahahahahahaha
And out of fuel lol
@The “Meat Chopper” you forgot about the IS Tank Series
@The “Meat Chopper” the front of the turret was penetrated very often with the 100 mm D-10S and the 122 mm D-25T.
If the War Thunder Tiger II 10.5cm was historically accurate:
it didnt exist
WILL BE REMOVED IN THE NEXT PATCH BTW BOYS GET IT FASTER FOR EAGLES))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
@@goomber1284 Its not worth it its really bad
tiger 2 105 is amazing if you know how to play it
Well, it is a what if game afterall but regarding the 105.
It would comport the same as a normal KTH but will only have a different gun and a bit less survivable (turret side ammo storage) The WT model is really wrongly made.
Also they never said they will remove it + givin how the latest changes completly killed realism I don't see what hurts to have the same tank with a different gun.
rykoszet.info/2018/03/26/wywiad-z-tworcami-gry-odpowiada-vyacheslav-bulannikov/
yeah bruh, the last one
*A BIRD FLIES ON THE TOP OF A TIGER II*
TIGER II: *TRANSMISSION BREAKS*
Bird flies on a T-34
T-34:This bird belongs to the motherland
@@tutel19 no, the bird starves
@@jinglejangle3287 bird starts chirping in russian
@@WHOARETHEPATRIOTS475 ahahah
Literally nothing happens.
Tiger II: transmission broke
I have no problems with having only one in the team, if it faces historically accurate allied teams with M4 Sherman and Cromwell xD
As well as tanks that could easily take it out such as the M-26 and M-36. If it was historically accurate it wouldn’t even be in relevant numbers
@@reid1283 There were approximately 200 M26 deployed to Europe, against 400 Tiger 2, 1000 Tiger 1, and 6000 Panthers. If you consider that a third of the German tanks were on the Western front, that's still a lot. Anyway, if it was really accurate there would be no point playing Germany because you would ultimately always loose
Maxime Carpentier
But most Tigers were destroyed by bombing raids, meaning only around 150 actually fought. This is also being compared to 60,000 Shermans
I think the teams would be like this
USA
1 M26
5 Jumbos
30M4 (76)s of various types
30M4 (75)s
8 chaffe and Stuart tanks
20 M36s/M10s
Germany
1 Tiger II
5 Tigers
10 Panthers
30 Panzer IVs and STUGs
@@reid1283 Seems fair. This would be a certain win for the Allies in urban maps, but I'm not sure who would win on a long range sniping map like Kursk
Maxime Carpentier
Yeah
1:16 "Poor Quality" T-34-85 comes around the corner without tracks lol
*Comes round corner with half a crew and is made out of cardboard*
AND Nobody realize dis until sombody mentioned it
It's a bug I think. I see it a lot on all tanks.
@@blazeiscrazy8737 it was a joke
They see me rollin
Sherman Firefly next?
The crew should be blinded after every shot, reducing crew skills for 5-6 seconds
Every hit the Firefly receives sets it on fire and has a high chance of causing a ammo-rack explosion. That was literally why it received the nickname 'firefly'.
@@DaruGaming420 No... it was named the Firefly because of the Muzzle flash.
And only early shermans had this problem, by the time of production of Fireflies, that problem was fixed.
@Dwarov 1 Flat armor on the Firefly? Oh you seem like you know what you are talking about boi.
@Abd Mzn Quite on a contrary. I've talked to several former Korean War Sherman crews and asked why the Firefly wasn't continued being used after WW2, and they say exactly that. The muzzle flash excuse, even though it was prominent but that was never the true reason why it was called Firefly.
Historians took the muzzle flash excuse as fact because they didn't want to talk negatively about the Firefly. There's a reason why the Firefly never saw service beyond WW2, and a muzzle flash problem wouldn't have prevented a tank from being used in service if it was so effective.
Personally I would rather believe men who were on a battlefield rather than a bunch of seat-warming historians.
@Dwarov 1 Yea and do you see tanks driving backwards at other tanks? Most tanks are angled only from the front...
And almost no tank is well protected from the back or even side.
German Tanks: exist
HE round: *it's free real estate*
Actually that does not apply for many tanks. Mostly late war production with lower quality.
Then the Tiger II should fight against T-34s and not T34s.
@sb11 but muh sherman could take over the world
I spank Tiger 2s with my T-34-85 every time I’m uptiered, I’m fine with that lol
YeetHammer40k Allied tanks don't have weakspots that obvious like the Tiger II does. They literally put a line on the side of the tank to aim at and you generally one-shot them. The Allies have so many different tank designs that you tend to forget the weakspots.
@@jungletrouble8296 US Tanks have plenty of weakspots too, like the shot trap on M26 and M46s (lower edge of the mantlet), to the obvious welded on plates on the sides of a Sherman that mark the ammo rack.
@@jermasbiggestfan7796 Because most people who play the Tiger II are dumb and think it is invincible. If you meet a player who actually knows how to play the Tiger II, you're going to get wiped out of existence.
It wouldn't be a late German Tank if the Trasmission doesn't randomly break .
i mean considering all the Videos i have seen about thanks the sentence should be "It wouldnt be a heavy tank if the transmission doesnt randomly break"
@@jeova0sanctus0unus A heavy tank in the time about WW2.
@@projectpitchfork860 Yea man. there where basically no heavy tanks before or after that time.
It wouldn’t be a heavy tank if it’s transmission didn’t break randomly
@@jeova0sanctus0unus Char 2C : are you sure about that ?
*Salesman Slaps Tiger II*
This big boy can fit so many breakdowns and engine burn downs
Tiger IIs weren't at the battle of Kursk. Kursk took place in 1943, Tiger IIs weren't delivered to units until 1944. All German "big cats" had reliability issues that were never solved.
@Proud Kekistani Strategic bombing had little effect on German tank production. Hilary Doyle explains this in Operation Think Tank. Late war German tanks had mechanical issues because they 1. were fundamentally flawed due to bad design processes (political meddling and such) and 2. relied on fundamentally flawed components like the HL230 engine and double spur final drives.
@Hans Blitzkrieg No fundamentally, the problem was that when you have a tank with a power-to-weight ratio as bad as a Tiger II's, you either have to accept that it will be painfully slow, which the Germans would not accept, or you have to get the speed they wanted from the transmission. But that means more gears, more frequent gear-switching, more friction, and more wear. Low power-to-weight ratio, speed, and transmission reliability form a trinity of design trade-offs: you can have any two, but never all three. You can have light (relative to its engine power), fast tank with a reliable transmission, a heavy, slow tank with a reliable transmission, or a heavy, fast tank with an unreliable transmission, but you can never have a heavy, fast tank with a reliable transmission.
@@Spookston Isn't that a bit unfair to say, when many of the Tiger units complained it was due to lack of maintenance time? You can't run a complex machine over maintenance schedules and then get upset when it breaks. The Tigers rarely got combat breaks, despite being expected to need more maintenance than the medium tanks.
Even accounting for mechanical issues, they managed over 5 knock outs to every total loss. And that's even going against forces that vastly outnumbered them.
All I'm saying is in the context of the conditions they ran they were as reliable as their contemporaries. And yet we have everyone parroting these 'facts' without examining the full picture.
Your "Best Modern Tank" video was pretty well done, so I am kind of surprised to see you slipping into lazy oversimplifications in this video.
@@Spookston j
M1 Abrams was the best tank of WW2
No the Bob Semple Tank was
Its not a WW2 Tank...
@@mikehunt7977 r/whoosh
@@DRoman1 what does that mean?
wHat dOeS tHaT mEan?
Local madlad keeps getting away with it. more at 11
If the War Thunder Tiger II was historically accurate... then it would not fight against post war tanks it fights every battle.
Yeah as if the Tiger II is the only WWII heavy tank in the game that has to face the scawy post war tanks. Ever heard of T29, T34, T32, IS-2? Hell, Germany has the best Post-War 6.7 Tank in the game in the form of RU251, and never has to deal with the disease that is Italian cars.
@@bigmandan5824 T29, T34, T32, Have never seen combat
Can you do "if the war thunder is-2 was realistic"?
The IS 2 crew members wouldn't be drinking vodka as they're firing the gun because they will be intoxicated
Shoots once every 2 minutes due to fumes from the gun in the turret and insufficient ventilation system
Maximum speed would be limited to 35 km/h or sth like that not 44 like in game :ahaa:
has to stop moving every 5 minutes to praise stalin, if that wasn't done correctly the tank could be sent to gulag
Get stuck, one shot every 2 minutes, chanse for sights to break.
The hull break for big he shells reguarded all the tanks.
Not all. It depends on the tanks because bad welding was only on the late ware rushed tanks or over engineered tanks. For example, I highly doubt the Panzer IV H or G or what not would hull brake from a 122 HE round, but if it was shot with a 152mm or bigger, probably would. So basically, it depends on the size of the round and what it was fired upon.
@@PilotTed the video says the hull would break after being hit multiple times by big He shells, and every tank would react so.
@@jinglejangle3287 No, I wrote "Multiple strikes OR by large caliber HE shells"
@@Spookston oh right sorry my bad
@ and you're right
And even when they overperform in War Thunder, their flaws are very obvious when compared to its contemporaries.
It's why I do not like the Tigers and other late war german tanks in general. They forgot what made the Panzers III and IV so good and they did not take good lessons from vehicles like the Sherman.
@MrOverCritical1989 Typo fixed. Thank you for noticing.
It was actually a great idea making panthers and tigers because tanks need both oil, and men, which germany was very much lacking at the time. If hitler had made thousands more panzer 4s they would not be used due to lack of equipment, men, and oil.
@@FlenTiX1 correct.
At the end of the war Germany had more tanks than tankers to operate them.
@@FlenTiX1 I don't think so, I'd rather have a vehicle that's easy to operate than a bunch of tanks in which is extremely difficult to operate and any slight mistake can lead to total failure, panzer 4 really is the way
@Pommy Pie Thats because of the expense mostly, most countries that used these tanks weren't major powers.
Also more of them produced means more left over tanks to sell to other countries.
Tiger II is just a sexy looking waste of steel
Autistic Tanker oh no , someone is going to trigger wehraboo players with this true fact
*screech noise* hOw dUrE u mOcK mUh PanZer reeeee
yeah the tiger imo is one of the best looking tanks. sad that it was useless
@@ulfenburg7539 eh it was more of 50/50, I think Military History Visualized made a video about it. And at what stage Germany was, better build less tanks that are more armored and have more firepower than hundreds of Panzer IVs that you can fuel them all.
@@alexsv1938 yeah i know that. that also makes sense but if you do that and you produce something that has a high chance of breaking down then it doesnt really matter
I like how the T-34 at 1:22 has no tracks
Haven't you heard? It's a new version using only it's road wheels for improved speed
BT-7 in a nutshell
Don't you know? Stalin ordered the T-34s to be like BT tanks where they can drive without tracks? these are the upgrade.
T34 don't need no tracks. Legend has it it didn't even need the engine, just get a couple of comrades to push it from behind
The BT's grow up so fast :(
Is 2 next ? (btw nice video )
Big Meme the early IS-2’s had a A-19 gun, which was inaccurate and took longer to reload.
You forgot:
- a 1 before the crew level (150)
-fire extinguishers as standard
-enemy tanks should get "knocked out" if the Tiger2 looks at them because their crews bail out in fear
And:
-the large calibre HE hullbreaking is true for EVERY ww2 tank, not just the Tiger 2 in particular
-the RoF idk where u got that from, with the best crew it could be reloaded in 5s
-the turret rotation speed related to engine is true to most ww2 tanks as well
Psst they are freeaboos
You forgot:
-Sources.
This video wouldn't get approved even on Wikipedia in this state, as it relies way too heavily on a single source. He forgot just as many sources as this commenter
Koneic eeeexept that the engine rpm wasn't always linked to the turret rotation speed, as I know the the Sherman used an electric drive that would always keep up the same speed and I believe the T-34/85 had the same, but don't pin me on that.
The large HE hulbreaking was more applicable to german tanks due to shitty latewar armor quality. (Although the Russian armor what's harder and more susceptible to spalling)
And while a good loader could easily slam a round into the breach every 5 seconds, he can't maintain that for a long time as is always the case with human loaders and eventually would drop in time. If you where to take into account that loading shells in battle conditions is slower than in testing conditions, I pretty much believe that 8,9 seconds is the case for the ready rack.
I haven't read any reports about tank crews bailing out when seeing a tiger... as that is just plain stupid. If you see the tiger first, you don't bail out, you either drive away before he spots you or you shoot. If he spots you, he shoots first. Why leave the relative safety of your tank when you can just reverse out of that situation?
@@Arwun you are a prime example of why wehraboo's are so bad, the m4 was praised because it deserves to be, it was far better than any crap Germany produced. Now i know you won't believe me, because wehraboos have this absolute superiority complex about their beliefs, but here are some things that make the m4 amazing
-it was a decently spacious tank
-it was very ergonomic benifiting all crew members
-every one had a periscope (take notes Panther)
-every one had a spring loaded hatch to bail out of
-extremely reliable tank
-spare parts always available
-easy to repair because of its modular component design.
Oh and it had the best survival crew survival rate out of any tank of the war.
not trying to be a weaboo or anything but the tests at Kubinka weren't particularly fair as they removed the MG machine gun ball thing weakening the whole front of the tank along with structural components.
If you don't belive me look it up
Yes but it still stands that welding was of quite bad quality in late war germany, plus metal quality overall was low
@@karlob4601 yea the quality was worse that is fully correct
@Dwarov 1 No
@Dwarov 1 nope
@Dwarov 1 Was it a russian test?
*2 km away,T-34 gunner sneezes*
Tiger II: *ENGINE CATCHES FIRE AGAIN*
@Dwarov 1 T-34 was kinda great and s*** at the same time. Its biggest problem was problably the sloped armour.
@Dwarov 1 The T-34 when first introduced was able to be taken out by the 50mm (found in Pz. III and sometimes even the 37mm AT guns) frontally because of the poor armor quality. Of course at that time the T-34 was more likely to take itself out of battle due to unreliability anyway. In fact it was so unreliable they thought its production was being sabotaged
@Dwarov 1 What kind of crack are you smoking?
@Dwarov 1 THe T-34 was not the best tank in the war if you account for the fact that almost all AT guns could penetrate it after 42, which they did. IT could be considered the best if you only consider the pros of the T 34, but it had engine malfunctions and transmission malfunctions and no two T-34s were made the same, so maintenance was a nightmare to the point where they just replaced it instead of bothering to fix it. The Best T-34 was the 85mm varients due to the better gun, but even then, with only 2 crew in the turret, it would have been a night mare if you go up against multiple German tanks, all of which would penetrate you before you could fire a second round. The Best tank of the war was the........ PaKwAgOn SpEeDy BoI.
@Proud Kekistani
>call T-34 garbage
>admits ''''''superior german technological wonder'''''' buttfucked by bunch of garbages
Stop hitting yourself lmao
*implodes*
I'd happily take all that if i faced historically correct foes
@@Mrwizard-ck7oe touche
@@Mrwizard-ck7oe Who needs numbers when half the team will get killed by P-47s anyways
I swear, if I have my Tiger II's front plate ignored by HEAT-FS after getting uptiered to 7.0 one more time my body is going to just fall apart into lego pieces on the floor.
>is a german heavy tank
>relies on gun and armour
>gets uptiered to 7.0-7.7
>armour stops existing
>gun is only useful when targetting weakspots and sides
>mobility is still trash
>gets HEAT-FS'd to death constantly
>8k repair cost.
>only have ~100k on average
>I'm_never_gonna_financially_recover_from_this.png
All of the dislikes are from wehraboos
What’s a wehraboo. Is it because I like the German military equipment. Does that make me a nazi somehow? Because I like a tank that was one of the best in ww2.
@@joshlower1
The Tiger II wasn't the best WWII Tank.
@@frankdrebin3988 yeah... it was
@@joshlower1 objectively wasn’t but okay
Tiger II: *exist*
Transmission: *My Time has come.*
Engine: and everything changed when i caught on fire
sherman firefly please
"Sir! The gun won't fit!"
*"THEN PUT IT IN SIDEWAYS!"*
The engine is too weak!
*"TAKE 5 CAR ENGINES AND PUT THEM TOGETHER!"*
The radio won't fit!
*"CUT A HOLE IN THE TURRET AND MAKE IT STICK OUT THE BACK!"*
I like how I know where is this from
What about the tremendous flash when firing that gun?
But war thunder works off "in theory", because in war thunder the tanks are made to work how the original constructor had intended. So in theory each tank is running perfect to it's design
If everything in this game was adjusted to be 100 percent accurate I would come back. Because that way the only thing we could complain about would be gaining implementation of these features. I love ur channel so much. Keep it up!
The M3 (Stuart) is all you need!
The Tiger II was scary at first, but after a while, I realized how ineffective they were.
Wasnt the fuel consumption for the KT woefully overexagerated, with similar tanks like the IS-2 having very similar fuel consumption rates?
*Tank Salesman slaps roof of Tiger II*
-This ta....
*Tiger II breaks down*
More like
Salesman: *Slaps roof of Tiger II*
This bad boy can fit so much issues in it
Waiting for KV2, IS2 and T34
He's already done T-34, unless your talking about the American one.
KV-2: when firing on a surface not close to level, the turret drive takes damage to the weight & balance of the gun, at step angles the turret falls of entirely
Saw to late the T34 video. My bad.
KV-2:
- extremely low turret traverse due to it being hand cranked
- massive weight of the gun means high chance for the tank to fall over when on a slope
- extremely long reload times due to massive gun
- turret can only be traversed on relatively flat ground
- cannot be spawned on any map on the western front
- cannot be spawned on any map after 1942
- only 2 can be spawned per match due to low production numbers
- inadequate crew hatches can cause the crew members to "die" and have their stats reset
KV-2*
IS-2*
T-34*
@@AndrewVasirov
Yes, the T34 was a pershing
“Extremely low production numbers means only one Tiger II can be spawned per match”.
Meanwhile, the T95 you say could have 2 spawned per match which is the entire amount of T95’s ever built.
He is biased af bro.... Thats why
This is one of the things that I never got when German players complained about post war tanks.
The late war tanks that they have perform far and beyond what they ever were capable of in real life, so much so that they may as well be post war tanks themselves. That and they have quite a few fictional vehicles as well.
Great video btw.
Chopstorm uhh yeah they might not be accurate but your an idiot if you think the should be post war tanks
@@war_tanker958 What exactly do you mean by post war? Because what I'm talking about is very early post war, like M46s and whatnot.
Exactly.
I usually made a joke to further trigger those fanboi that by the time the German manage to iron out all the technical problemS on their late-war tanks so that they can perform as good as they intended it to be, American would already be mass producing M47s in large number.
German tanks might be overperforming, but it's not like the allies didn't have ANY performance problems that aren't displayed in the game. That is something that people seem to forget.
@@lidlpotato2047 Sure, but with the way WT is set up you don't see many of the advantages that Allied tanks had. Wet rack ammo stowage isn't a thing for the M4 Ws, and neither do you see the advantages of their increased reliability, ease of shipping, or ridiculously good ergonomics. Hell, they even nerfed the historical reload rates because of "crew fatigue", which is a complete BS non issue.
Yes, the Allies do benefit from the way the game is set up (especially the Russians), but they're also negatively affected, whereas for the Germans it's almost entirely positive.
Actually wrong. Tiger 2s had one of the most experienced crews left in the whole germany. Also, HE rounds couldn't even penetrate the turret, because it'a true that the steel was low quality, but in war thunder tiger 2 is basically made out of paper
not a single tank ingame is acurate and still people care about content being historicly accurate xD.New pen values XD.
but we had new pen values!
obviously because is gaijin they fucked up more than what it already was
Tiger 2: *does any form of movement*
Transmission: oh, imma die, thank you forever
What? The Tiger 2 engine in game isn't hp-limited? Then why is the M6?
Same reason why the Panther A,G,F and Ersatz M10 have the same engine but different HP output...smh..
Intrspace because there are versionst that arent limited to hp
They limited it later because bad strategic position so they cant maintane the tanks as usual and the qualety overal on the material dekreased because of late war on all productions if you entcople the tiger 2 tecnical specs from the war fate you have way les issues
(There was even a direkt injekted version of the hl230 planned to increase the hp to over 900hp but the war ended and never got in serial production
"BeCaUse GerManY SuFFeRs" - every Wehraboo in the Warthunder forums/Reddit.
Halo and war thunder...i love you.
Soviet cannons should have bad accuracy and occasional misfires if historical.
Sources for thsi?
Depends on the specific model
@@strellettes8511
Russian workmanship was often poor quality due to the socialist system: You don't work for a reward, there is no connection between your performance and your reward, you're forced to work. Production quotas were often set in numbers or kilograms and as long as you met those, nothing was wrong.
There's a hilarious report of one factory producing nails that were nearly square and more than a full centimeter thick. The factory owner had figured out that since his quota was in kilogram of nails, the thicker he made the nails, the 'more' he could produce.
@@strellettes8511 If you get the Chance to See an early T-34 from the inside then try that because I can tell you, you won't find any optic
@ It ain't socialist, USSR was communist.
Salesman: *slaps tiger II*
Transmission: *_breaks_*
Salesman: This boy is so bad
Nice vid, brace yourself for influx of angry wehraboos
You must be a true gamer with those halo musics
What about the fact that it would only be allowed to face Shermans, T-34s, Pershings, Cromwells and IS/IS-2 ?
And ISU and SU's
Really loving these. Keep it up!
"The most powerful tank of World War II, a single 67-ton Tiger II could hold up a dozen Sherman tanks, and often did. Known variously as the Tiger B, King Tiger, and Royal Tiger, the Tiger II carried a crew of five, had a 600-horsepower engine and a maximum speed of 21.74 miles an hour, and boasted a cruising range of 105.57 miles.
It could knock out with ease any Allied tank at considerable range, and its armor was so thick (1.58 inches to 7.09 inches) that few British or American weapons could destroy it. Fortunately for the Allies, production of the Tiger II behemoths was constantly disrupted by Anglo-American bombing raids and shortages of raw materials, so only 489 of them had entered service by the time the war ended."
Michael D. Hull
I guess you could say the Germans got outplayed
Technician: this tank will fail almost immediately, why are we using it
Officer: it looks cool!
This is actually Quite Wrong, Most of the time German forces would CONCENTRATE THEIR TANKS, Negating the Low Production Numbers and often being fairly close to Numbers against enemy forces. So only about 400 Tiger IIs were made, well that doesn't mean the Germans would only put 1 here and there and sprinkle them all over, That would go against their entire Military Doctrine and pretty much take their lessons from past experience in the war and throw it in the garbage, furthermore, If you would want to play the "Quality of Steel" Game, T34s on the Russian front was so poorly welded if you threw a Molotov Cocktail on it, the Burning Vodka would drip down onto the crew and burn them alive (50% Chance to be killed by Infantry). Furthermore, if you would like to be EVEN MORE Historically accurate, a Tiger II Usually had a Infantry Platoon following it (2 Squads) and that would probably be carrying Panzerfaust, and Panzerschreck, meaning if you were to encounter a Tiger II you have a random chance of being destroyed by its "Escorts". Or How about how NOTHING during the war Penetrated its Hull, So I guess we can't have that, because all the IS2 Kids and Jumbo kids wouldn't be able to get easy kills.
I could go on and on, like how the m22 never really saw all that much combat, or maybe how Fiddy Cals didn't ever get used to kill tanks, or even better Germans had Jets before Americans, and never had to use them to fight KOREAN F**KING WAR JETS, or BEST OF ALL, Centurions and FV4202s didn't ever fight a Panther or Tiger or Tiger II, so we have to completely change the entire way the game works to be "Historically Accurate" also, how do you know the Tiger IIs wouldn't be given Priority for Fuel and then the Pz IV would run out of fuel? We would have to do the same thing on a bunch of maps for Shermans as they were low on fuel shortly before the Battle of the Bulge.
psst you are gonna get called weeraboo
@Emperor Augustus What are Burgerboos? Also who lost to Goat Farmers?
@@luistruemmler8008 Eh Not really, stating simple facts, as making 1 Tank "Historically" Accurate wouldn't be all that fair. As Germany is the most important country in War Thunder, without Germany Jumbos Would HAVE to Fight IS2s everytime, and they would be begging for Germany to come back
@Emperor Augustus I don't know how to reply to that xD, But Yeah my comment would trigger all the Fiddy Cal Kids, they think America had the best Tanks of the war, when in reality they were only Semi-Decent.
YOu realise i agree with him right?@@notapuma
You legend I was waiting for a new one of these
Do ferdinand pls!
The video would be an hour long
1. If it drives, it will catch fire
2. If it reaches hill, it will catch fire
3. When it spawns, it will break down
4. It catches fire
5. It has no fuel......... and catches fire.
if I'm not mistaken, he already made it
In general for all tanks, after each bounce and non-penetration crew becomes disabled (stunned) for several seconds, defined by caliber of shell, speed of shell, shell penetration and type, thickness of armor, type of armor, place hit and hit vehicle type and weight.
If the War Thunder Tiger II was historically accurate: it wouldn't be seeing Korean War era tanks.
The enemy team would also have practically infinite respawns. Would you like to face 20 Shermans or T-34s for every Tiger II you field?
@@MacSalterson There was this air combat simulator from a long time ago that used a certain system of honor points or the like. For example, after many missions with, say, a P-51 or a Bf 109, you could deploy your P-80 or your Me 262.
Something similar could be done here: heavy tanks like the KV-1 or the Tiger could be unlocked after the first respawn if you did good enough, with a limit of one or two per team. Sort of like specialist positions in Red Orchestra.
Ian Pomfret untrue. The germans generally massed their panzer forces for tank battles and when they we’re thinned out, they feld back on ambush techniques because they we’re contantly falling back. Therefore the germans should either outnumber enemy tanks in combat or have capture points that are strategically better and far closer to their spawn
@@noudlindeman1931 The Germans simply didn't have the tank production to match the Soviets or Americans though, especially with their late war designs. The German army was super under-mechanized.
Ian Pomfret yup true. In total they we’re totally outnumbered and as you rightly pointed out not as mechanized as people think. The germans however massed their panzer(tank) forces into tank divisions allowing huge concentrations of tanks to oppose enemy tanks. This means that the germans would, in a tank to tank battle, not be outnumbered, despite being outnumbered in the war as a whole. The downside of this attack is of course that the Russians and Americans can spread their tanks out and attack infanty with their tanks.
*I'll take it as long as we apply your research on all tanks*
Let me guess, a lot of interresting things will be said but the creator will forgot (again) to mention King tiger's BR would be reduced so that it would never face any vietnam war vehicle while one of the most dangerous things it could face would be the IS-2 Mod 44
( not to mention that some things are a bit idiotic : " due to extremely limited training , maximum crew level would be 50 " thats ridiculous , german crews were poorly trained only in late war (at first they were among the bests if not the best) and those poorly trained crews were almost only given " weaker " german tanks like PZ4's and stugs . King tigers were almost only given to experienced or at least trained crews who had already seen combat)
Well... T-34-85 was used during the Vietnam War, along with Chaffee. So you're saying Tiger II should never face any Vietnam War vehicle, including T-34-85s and Chaffees. I see your point, they're too good for Tiger II.
@@AndrewVasirov Oh please you got my point you're just playing on words there when i'm talking about " vietnam war tanks" it's obvious i'm talking about things that were develloped for / during this war , t-34' 85's and chaffees were develloped during ww2 so yeah i didn't expressed myself at best but pointing that out is just more ridiculous than the "mistake" i made.
To make it short : If you wanted to be realisitc you wouldn't put the tiger 2 at a 6.7 BR that will make him almost only fight post ww2 vehicles. Isn't that interesting tho ? The tiger 2 needs to be put at a BR with post war tanks for it to be balanced ahah ( of course i know tanks in war thunder are on steroids and not 100% realistic )
The biggest fix would be to lower the BR spread from 1.0 to 0.7.
This is what I want. And this might fix the game finally. What do you think?
@@AndrewVasirov i'm totally agreeing with you on that , the game would just be better with a 0.7 BR spread
Cramped workstation for the Tiger 2s gunner? Then the judgement of smaler tanks must be brutal.....
even compared to some smaller tanks it was cramped as hell, you have to think that that the size of a 88mm breech compared to a 37-75mm it's a pretty big difference, also the tigers two's turret is a bit small for a heavy tank to start with.
*All Of Thses Issues Should Be Added To WT Sim Battles*
War thunder dev team : after adding new ways tanks can die on the battlefield such as *dying from a F U C K I N G H E S H E L L* we are proud to announce that we will be deleting sim battles and replacing it with *B A T T L E R O Y A L E*
So you want Germany to suffer? Dude, its still a game, even with Sm battles players still want to have fun. If that were to be implemented, that the Tiger II should be allowed to fight mainly shermans and T34 85s, as that was what mainly opposed it. f you want it too be accurate like that, the Tiger II H would be at a tier of 4.7 or such essentially. The first thing a game is supposed to be is fun, not historically accurate, that comes next.
@@PilotTed The Tiger 2 would face stuff like the Su-152 and its HE shell would break the welds of the tank and destroy it. Its HE shell would destroy Panther and Tiger 1's by blowing their turrets off
@@sytricka3318 Tiger 2 would also only be facing Shermans and t-34s. If we're gonna go full historical. Maybe throw in a pershing once every 12 battles, since only 2 actually saw combat
@@CrazyDutchguys The tiger 2 was so rare that you would barely see them in WT, most of the time you would be facing PZ. 4s, Stugs, the occasional Panther and even then these tanks would still be greatly outnumbered by the allies. Also around 20 pershings actually saw combat in WW2
>only one can be spawned per match
>nobody would play it due to the horrendous drawbacks
I'm a simple man. I see Spookston making a historical accuracy video, I hit like.
Despite the many inconsistencies and sloppy source referencing he has in these videos of him? He also never compares the stats, flaws or perks of the tanks to other tanks of the same calibre, so that a really distorted picture is produced in front of the viewers eye because the lack of information and context. I take your word. You really seem simple.
I get that these videos are more a way of entertainment. Especially for the ones on the globe whoms countries never won a "real" war again after the 2nd World War. And who mourn after a once truely great county. But he should at least put a disclaimer in front of his videos if he does not want to do quality content...
>many inconsistencies and sloppy source referencing
[citation needed]
>He also never compares the stats, flaws or perks of the tanks to other tanks
Comparisons between tanks are never even mentioned anywhere in these videos, yet you're mad that there are no comparisons.
>other tanks of the same calibre
Tanks were not ranked after their caliber.
>so that a really distorted picture is produced
Oh you mean the picture of the most important aspects of warfare, which are logistics and industry?
Rich coming from you to call me simple.
> never won a "real" war again after 2nd World War
lmao baby can't deal with the fact that warfare has changed.
> And who mourn after a once truely great county [sic]
LMAO Germany is still an economic power house, even with Schlesien, Pommern and Ostpreußen gone.
> but at least he should put a disclaimer in front of his videos if he does not want to do quality content...
So Wehraboos like you don't get triggered?
thank you kanye, very cool
Excuse me, but do you see the Words "Panzerkampfwagen V" or "Panther" in the title or description of this video? Is there a sign on my discussion that says "Panther Tank Discussion"?
Erika Itsumi: I won’t let you get away! Our target is the flag tank at 1 o’clock.
(Her Tiger II’s left suspension breaks down and the left track falls off)
Erika: Hey! Where are you going? What are you doing?!
(The tank veers left before getting stuck in a ditch)
Erika’s Driver: Showing something weird on the right dyno. Sorry! I’ve lost control!
It's just a game, you wouldn't like your track snapping or engine catching on fire like every 3 mins would you?
Imagine what would happen if T-34 in war thunder was historically accurate lmao
it would be fuckin stupid, although there would be too many for the german tanks to deal with anyway.
Funny thing is people complain about historical accuracy and stuff in war thunder but they forget that it's a game at the end of the day. There have to be some changes made so that it's playable. No one would play a game that clings to every fact in history. Because guess what? History isn't fair.
Of course like I m playing Hitler and suddenly shot myself what kind of gameplay that would be
History isn't fair at all. If it was Tiger 2s wouldn't be fighting 1970s tanks
I think it is pretty unfair to credit the actual tank with maintenance problems when said tank isn't maintained properly.
That's like running a car for 100k on the same oil, then getting upset it stopped working. It isn't the fault of the car.
Tigers were used as fire brigades - totally against their design and operators intention - which meant they were not maintained as necessary leading to their reliability problems. This was noted by the 503rd nearly immediately upon receiving their Tiger 1s:
"Evaluation: There must be strict orders that, under no circumstances and at all levels of command, Tiger units must never be committed at less than company strength and that Panzer VIs and Panzer IIIs are not to be committed separately. The Tigers must be used as the battering ram as the attack advances and remain as a bulwark at the Schwerpunkt of the defense. Soldiers, in general, are of the opinion that the Tiger can do anything and everything. They do not understand that a newly developed weapon system has deficiencies and weaknesses that first need to be remedied as a result of increased experience and further development. Because of that, the danger exists that Tiger units may be assigned tasks that normal tank companies can perform without difficulty. As a result of continual movement and the resultant increased demands placed on running gear and power plants and lack of time allowed for technical service, damage occurs that results in Tiger units having mechanical problems when they are used. The maintenance facility must be able to work as long as possible at a single location, preferably a railroad station. When locations are changed, they have a particular need to know the final destination. The Tiger unit must, for the present, be kept as the unit commander’s last reserve, waiting in readiness behind a key sector so that it can force a decision when all other means fail. The Road March: The winter cleats offer inadequate protection against sliding sideways, which is a particular problem at present due to the many ice-covered ravines and embankments. The road-march speed meets requirements in every respect. Effects of Enemy Fire: Gunfire from enemy 7.62cm antitank guns did not achieve any penetrations of the company Tigers or cause severe damage. In one case, a hit on the top of the front of the commander’s cupola raised it somewhat because the weld broke and the cupola bolts shot inside the tank. The Russian Model 42 antitank rifle penetrated up to 17mm, measured on the driver’s front slope. The antitank rifle was encountered frequently; it was easily identifiable by its sizeable muzzle flash. In one case, a round hit the forward vision slot of the commander’s cupola at an angle, broke out one corner, ricocheted and made the vision block unusable. If it had been a direct hit, it probably would have penetrated. Most of the hits from the antitank rifles were close to the vision slits. A hit on the outer jacket tube of the 8.8 cm main gun, probably from a 45mm antitank gun, caused a sizeable indentation of the outer tube and a very slight indentation in the inner tube. Since the crew did not suspect a hit in that location, the firefight was carried on without any problem. Conduct of Fire: The main gun reliably achieved hits at up to 1500 meters with a well bore-sighted weapon. The effect and penetration performance of the 8.8cm gun against all targets up to now leaves no room for improvement."
this sounds like it would be an actual nightmare to play
any way ,good video like always.
What people don't realise about the Tiger II is that its main weapon on the battlefield is fear.
@@m.c.schock2933 but what happens if the transmission broke ?
@@m.c.schock2933 true but you would first have to get that gun on the battlefield.
@@WHOARETHEPATRIOTS475 Well... I remember reading somwhere that IS tank crews would flee at the mere sight of a Tiger II. So maybe if the transmission breaks in a "good area" it can still do its job.
@@WHOARETHEPATRIOTS475 usually tiger 2's like tiger 1's were defending, so you don't really need a transmission to snipe T-34's from kilometers away
You should do one with the sherman, where every time it spots a tiger it explodes
Fallschirmjäger another weraboo smh
I would be down with this! But Allies only get Shermans and 1, M4A3 (76) and 1, M26!
76 Shermans were much more common than you would think. By 1945 half of all M4s in the ETO were of the 76mm variety.
@@Spookston Tiger crews : *visibly shaking*
@@Spookston nah. the 75 mm was more common then the 76 mm as the crew liked the 75 more. so no not half
@@Spookston Wrong.
I have the numbers right here. By May of 1945 the 12th Army Group had a total of 3043 M4s, 1449 75mm and 1594 76mm (Armored Thunderbolt by Steven Zaloga). Say I'm wrong all you want, but it's a fact.
if the war thunder t-34-57 was historically accurate, it can not penetrate armor of tiger out of 300m
I stopped my blasting of Death Grips for you
love me
Adolf Hitler while designing the Tiger II:
"What the fuck is reliability?"
It's funny that you always say negative things about german tanks and nothing positive. I am not an expert in history but for what I've read and watched, except for the early versions of the Panther and Tiger reliability wasn't such an issue. Call me wheraboo or whatever you want but your videos are pure propaganda. The sherman was not as bad as many believed but the German big cats were not as bad as you are trying to show.
Nah the tiger 2 was shit. Even fanbois can give up on this tank.
@@XDestroyoxZx Tiger 2 was shit why? In 1944 Germany was on the defense so no need for fast tanks, they just needed tanks which could hold position and help in the retreat. Panthers and Tiger I could "easily" be destroyed by IS-2, T-34-85, or Shermans whit the long barrel so being underpowered was not a big issue to the Tiger 2 as it could resist much more than it's predecessors. The problem was when they used it as an offensive tank like in the Battle of the Bulge and anyways, reliability was not the main issue. Most King Tigers were destroyed by their crew because they ran out of fuel, not because reliability.
Also considering that by 1943 the war was already lost for the germans they needed a tank that could change the fate of the war so no point in copying the Americans and the Russians on cheap mass produced tanks, no way they could produce more than both of them together and anyways why to produce more tanks if you don't have fuel for them.
But yeah, it's great to say that it was shit and the Germans were idiots and didn't know anything before analysing the situation.
@@diegor8111 Maneuver is the essence of warfare. If you make a giant slow vehicle that swallows fuel it doesn't matter how well you armor it. It will (and was) defeated by better designed tanks, artillery, or air power. If you don't believe me when I say this I just need to tell you that a M8 Greyhound knocked out a "Tiger" with its 37mm cannon. (There's debate as to whether it was a Panther, Tiger 1, or Tiger 2).
As for the Tiger 2 itself, it's a German heavy tank of WW2. This means it's known for not being reliable because of how stupid heavy the thing is for 1940s technology. Combine that with Germany's quite terrible logistics network and it means this thing is hard to maintain. The only thing I can give the King Tiger is that if you want to sit in a position and shoot at tanks from kilometers away it's a good choice but as soon as you need to move that thing you risk getting stuck (if your vehicle is knocked out more by crew having to abandon it because of the nightmarish logistical footprint it leaves than enemy fire, that's not a good sign). That doesn't sound like a very decisive vehicle, I don't understand how that's supposed to change the fate of the war.
Diego Rodríguez then Germany needed every resource as they were losing they could have built more hetzers a reliable t-34 killer and did not cost Germany a lot
@@XDestroyoxZx First it's maneuverability was ok for it's size. Second, it was a heavy tank it was not supposed to be fast that's why they had the Panther. Then I don't know which tank was better designed because it was far more advanced than any tank the allies or the russians had in between 1943-1945 until the IS-3 and T26 appeared. Don't forget that it was defeated by numbers and lack of resources. I know about the m8 destroying a Tiger 2. If the germans had scouted the zone before letting the Tiger advance that would never happened but well take it as you want.
If Germany had the right amount of resources it wouldn't have been a problem to mantain it so I would blame the lack of resources not the tank itself. Appart from it's problems it was created to try changing the fate of the war when Germany was already lost. Call it last hope or however you want but it was designed for that. The Maus is another example of that philosophy. Do you get it now?
I like how under the video like this there is gonna be someone who say wehraboo this wheraboo that, so original.
Do BT-5 or BT-7 !
T-26 (which had mainly kids as crew!!!!)
The BT tanks were good tank and were very good to do what they were designed to do the problem is that they weren’t used in the correct way (bad terrain, defensive role...) so they became innefective
Say what you will, it's still a beast to look at. I'd park a replica in my fuggin garage
T-34/85 next pls
INACCURATE! The Halo CE soundtrack was created after the Tiger II left service.
Wehraboos: Nein Nein Nein!
If it was historically accurate it would only meet T-34-85's, IS-2' , M4A1's and A2's and rarely British tanks of under 4.7 br.
You ever heard of the isu tank destroyers
Can't wait for the triggering!
Honestly I haven't seen a single person "triggered" by these videos
@@homiespaghetti1522 You must be new here. With these videos you say a single thing that counters a statement made in these videos you are instantly branded a Wehraboo.
@Emperor Augustus Yeah. They whine about the Wehraboos being toxic and they are just as, if not more toxic themselves.
Commieboos are the frigging worst though. Tell them their T-34 wasnt as good as they think it is and they will explode into a angry, Hissy pissy temper tantrum calling you every vile insult under the sun.
The only thing i learned from all these videos is that everything likes to either randomly explode or randomly catch on fire
Why do you only include things that would make the tank worse if theres a lot of thing which would make it better, xet you igbore these points.
Jan Hemmer
Why do so many people forget that these videos are meant as modifications to what War Thunder already showcases in game?
These are historically accurate nerfs to the way War Thunder portrays the Tiger 2, and nothing more.
@@Delta-es1lg yes. Except that in the sherman and t34 videos he also mebtions "buffs", nit in the videos featuring german tanks
@@Delta-es1lg and he also forgot that the tiger 2 105 shouldnt even fucking exist bc its impossible to fit that gun in the tureet
What positive points, exactly, am I forgetting? The best points of the German cats are their armor and gun, both of which are correctly (and in some cases, performing too well) in game.
@@Spookston what about automatic fire exringuishing system with 7 charges? What about comfortable pre-selector gearbox which actually enable the driver to switch to the last gear
You know what? I would be completely fine with this tbh...
War thunder realizum is better than WoT trash
That would be because world of tanks was never intended to be realistic. It's an arcade style game.
"World of Tanks was never intended to be realistic."
Seeing how WoT is "evolving", it might not even be about tanks anymore (ahem, wheeled vehicles).
War thunder is trash. WOT is life
No, you're wrong.
@@AndrewVasirov i understand somewhat how you could make comparisons between the two. But most of them dont really make much sense. World of tanks isnt trying to be absolutely perfect in realism, and it never really has. The two games are so different in mechanics and general play. Its like people who compare destiny to warframe. Yes they are similar in concept, both being lootershooters, but they play so differently.
Always love these kind of videos
Another poorly researched video with a bunch of moot facts taken out of context and heavily over exaggerated. But I wouldn't expect any less from some narrow-minded Sherman apologist.
Explain go on I'm listening
@@yourlordandsavior6940 all the documents he quoted were written by allies
@Johnny Dotson so the people who blew the casualty rate of Dresden out of proportion are more trust worthy?
"Sherman apologist"
Carnivorus reeeeee muh Russians don’t check K/D instead of strategical effectiveness
German tank: *exists*
Random chance of engine catching on fire: *it’s free real estate*
I am willing to take all those disadvantages for not facing all the post war BS in war thunder
I love these please keep it up
M4 Sherman sees a a king tiger in front of it:we all gonna die
The king tiger has broken transmission and a burning engine:please end my suffering
Tiger 2 on 6.3/5.7 : very strong mother*aka
Tiger 2 on 7.3/7.7 : meal for Russian Bias
Inb4 history channel wehraboos
That halo music really hits me with nostalgia. Nice video, anyway
The tiger 2 isn’t even an issue for me. Just hop in a t29, load the weakest shell, and go right through the front plate on the turret.
"suspension has a random chance to break"
*Madlad yeets it across a hill and smacks ithe whole weight of the vehicle onto a small part of the suspension as he lands on the other hill
*Suspension RANDOMLY breaks :D*
Exactly what i was thinking... Is we were really accurate, nobody would drive like that! 😉
If the Tiger II in WT was realistic, it would only face weak and squishy allied medium tanks that don't stand a chance of penetrating it frontally or winning a long range duel.
Also it would be a BR 4.7 tank, and every enemy that saw it would immediately run away or abandon the tank, out of fear.
*insert the fact that if it was in fact 100% accurate they would face so many tanks they would have no idea what to do... also it would still fight 85s and 76s, even though it would be harder it can still punch through the front in some places
while there are a few legit points you forgot one major thing.... if it was historically accurate it would sit at BR 5.7 since it only saw combat 1944-45 and mainly saw combat against inferior tanks like M4 shermans, T34-85s, Cromwells, IS 2s and sometimes M26s etc. Instead it sees mainly post war tanks like M41, M56, M50, T44-100, T54 etc etc.
If war thunder was this accurate, I don't think it will be fun as I spent most of the time being stationary for repairs