Thanks, you've approved my thoughts that all this '4 vs 2 fingers' dispute is actually pointless. All options are fine until you feel yourself comfortable and this is amazing!
I usually use 4 figures on the clutch and 2 on the brake, however I got scolded a lot in my riders course for using only 2 figures on the brake and I dont know why. 2 figures on the brake just seems more normal for me and I broke my left hand so I think thts why I use 4 figures on the clutch.
Additional info: in Germany, breaking with 2 fingers are considered as a mistake on an exam. On the other hand, in Poland all motorbike schools teach 2-finger breaking.
Interesting fact, thanks for sharing. I've tried using the 2 finger technique with a suzuki dl650 after having been told that's how you're supposed to hold it, but the space occupied by my fingers inside the glove between the clutch and the handlebar doesn't allow me to fully change gear. I guess it depends a lot on the motorcycle and shift configuration
I agree with everything you say. Just one comment for riders and bikes like me / mine. After using 4 fingers on my clutch for 40 years I decided to try a shorty clutch lever (only 2 fingers possible). It was difficult initially, but after getting used to it the benefit of permanently having two fingers gripping the handgrip is huge with slow speed driving, and gives a sense of control at all speeds. My bike is a ducati multistrada.
Sir the motorcycle posture video helped a lot. earlier I used to have numb hands after riding long and now no problem after sitting little forward and loose hands. Thank You 🙏
DVSA in UK says 4 fingers, as in an on road crash - the clutch lever will trap or cut your fingers off, allegedly. You won’t pass your test using any less…
Your comments about #fingers with braking to avoid lock ups are consistent with my experience with regular bicycles....it depends upon your braking skills, how good the brake pads are, how the brake lever is adjusted (when it starts to bite) and the road / trail condition. Grabbing a handful of front brake will most likely lock up the front wheels (talking bicycle). No ABS in bicycles and same applies to older motorcycles without ABS. Good video!! Thank you and ride safe!!👍
2 brake and 2 on the clutch on sports bikes until I bought a Z900RS (front brakes now have full brembo upgrade) Now I have to use 4 on the clutch as it is so light that the engagement feeling is not there with 2 fingers. Bought a Mizu 3 finger lever but although more controllable the end of the lever annoyingly rubs on my pinky occasionally. I will have to try a 2 finger lever and see if I can master it and see if that makes a difference. 40 years on road bikes and until I can't notice the bike underneath me I keep on spending $ Somebody stop me. 4 mates have either lost or have a useless left pinky over the years I ask them was it the lever? Answer always the same "don't know"
If you enjoy chipping the bones in your clutch pinky and ring finger use 2. It's not a BMX that lever goes all tha way. 4 fingers, front brake can get away with 2 because if you squeeze that bish too hard your going over the bars lol
When in traffic you should simply cover the controls. The best way you feel most confident. When on a track, with repeat breakpoints. There is no need to cover the controls. Unless, a racer is in the line ahead.
This is a great topic. I have a question, should we ride on the road with 2 fingers on the front break and 2 fingers on the clutch? I mean all the time? This is pretty much how I ride all the time. What is best practice here? Thanks
I'm from Australia, my instructor told me to grabbed the break with full fingers. lol. I told him. No 2 will do. He said what I'm doing is wrong. WTH!🤣 i also told him. I have small hands, I showed him, I can't reach properly the break. But he still doesn't want me to do it. And, I replied again. Hey most instructor in youtube 2 will do. hahaha! boom!
I've been using two fingers on the brake lever for years but since changing my bike a few weeks ago, I'm slowly getting used to just using one...damn, those Brembo Stylema brakes are savage! I can still use two fingers but have to be careful not to squeeze the lever like I have been doing for a long time, so I switched to one finger while I recalibrate my brain to the new bike. My index finger rests on the lever in case a bit of additional braking force assistance is needed. I still use all four on the clutch lever, maybe it's due to having relatively short fingers but cable clutches on superbikes feel heavy to me and just two fingers causes a lot of tendon strain.
My license instructor told me that only two fingers are allowed, don't know why. I pull clutch with 3 fingers and brake with two because I don't have to work with handle on clutch side so I don't see a problem there. He had one Kawa naked with ridiculously hard clutch, that's why I taught myself to use 3 fingers.
I keep two fingers on the brake when I am concerned about needing to brake quickly, such as when approaching an intersection or a blind corner, because I can apply the brake without delay.
I got used to holding 2 fingers on the lever all the time. But braking only with two at all times makes my hand tired a lot. Is it fine ti brake with 4 in predictable situations like coming to a stop on red lights? Is it ok to take those fingers of the lever when going outside the city when ther's no twisties ahead and ni cars directly in front of me to relax my hand a bit?
I feel id be comfortable using 4 but ill try to use 2 to see if it can get comfortable doing it cause my fingers don't work well i guess my last fingers lack strength idk
For me is 1 for offroad and 2 for the asphalt (on both clutch and brake). Also, I always keep my fingers on the levers. That's just how I learnt and now is 2nd nature. ✌
Thanks, you've approved my thoughts that all this '4 vs 2 fingers' dispute is actually pointless. All options are fine until you feel yourself comfortable and this is amazing!
Absolutely correct!
Just don't use the middle finger...you may hurt someone's feelings. 😉✌🏽
Actually I use the "middle finger grip" on gymkhana course, hope nobody gets offended 🤣🤣
..................hahaha what a good joke ..... we are proud of You, dear Maso !..................
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I usually use 4 figures on the clutch and 2 on the brake, however I got scolded a lot in my riders course for using only 2 figures on the brake and I dont know why. 2 figures on the brake just seems more normal for me and I broke my left hand so I think thts why I use 4 figures on the clutch.
Additional info: in Germany, breaking with 2 fingers are considered as a mistake on an exam.
On the other hand, in Poland all motorbike schools teach 2-finger breaking.
Interesting fact, thanks for sharing. I've tried using the 2 finger technique with a suzuki dl650 after having been told that's how you're supposed to hold it, but the space occupied by my fingers inside the glove between the clutch and the handlebar doesn't allow me to fully change gear. I guess it depends a lot on the motorcycle and shift configuration
I agree with everything you say.
Just one comment for riders and bikes like me / mine.
After using 4 fingers on my clutch for 40 years I decided to try a shorty clutch lever (only 2 fingers possible).
It was difficult initially, but after getting used to it the benefit of permanently having two fingers gripping the handgrip is huge with slow speed driving, and gives a sense of control at all speeds.
My bike is a ducati multistrada.
Sir the motorcycle posture video helped a lot. earlier I used to have numb hands after riding long and now no problem after sitting little forward and loose hands. Thank You 🙏
Glad I could help! 😊
I tried to but I can't unlearn using the 4 fingers on the clutch, so fuck of the elitist riders shaming us for using 4 fingers on clutch
I'm with you man. I've tried using two but my hand already gets tired if I'm in traffic with all 4. 2 is just asking for trouble.
Back in the '70's with those single piston calipers, you used all four fingers. And squeezed as hard as you could.
And it's not even drum brakes!😉
@@MotoControlEn I'm not that old bro. Lol
DVSA in UK says 4 fingers, as in an on road crash - the clutch lever will trap or cut your fingers off, allegedly. You won’t pass your test using any less…
Mostly I use 2 on the breaks, 3 on the clutch since I find it à bit hard. Sometimes I use 4 everywhere, depends on the road also
Your comments about #fingers with braking to avoid lock ups are consistent with my experience with regular bicycles....it depends upon your braking skills, how good the brake pads are, how the brake lever is adjusted (when it starts to bite) and the road / trail condition. Grabbing a handful of front brake will most likely lock up the front wheels (talking bicycle). No ABS in bicycles and same applies to older motorcycles without ABS.
Good video!! Thank you and ride safe!!👍
2 brake and 2 on the clutch on sports bikes until I bought a Z900RS (front brakes now have full brembo upgrade)
Now I have to use 4 on the clutch as it is so light that the engagement feeling is not there with 2 fingers. Bought a Mizu 3 finger lever but although more controllable the end of the lever annoyingly rubs on my pinky occasionally. I will have to try a 2 finger lever and see if I can master it and see if that makes a difference.
40 years on road bikes and until I can't notice the bike underneath me I keep on spending $
Somebody stop me.
4 mates have either lost or have a useless left pinky over the years I ask them was it the lever? Answer always the same "don't know"
If you enjoy chipping the bones in your clutch pinky and ring finger use 2.
It's not a BMX that lever goes all tha way. 4 fingers, front brake can get away with 2 because if you squeeze that bish too hard your going over the bars lol
I think it depends on what she's comfortable with...I mean the bike.
2 on clutch, and 3 on brake dude here ✌
When in traffic you should simply cover the controls. The best way you feel most confident. When on a track, with repeat breakpoints. There is no need to cover the controls. Unless, a racer is in the line ahead.
This is a great topic.
I have a question, should we ride on the road with 2 fingers on the front break and 2 fingers on the clutch? I mean all the time? This is pretty much how I ride all the time. What is best practice here?
Thanks
If that's what you find comfortable - why not? I often like to do that too, especially in traffic!
I'm from Australia, my instructor told me to grabbed the break with full fingers. lol. I told him. No 2 will do. He said what I'm doing is wrong. WTH!🤣 i also told him. I have small hands, I showed him, I can't reach properly the break. But he still doesn't want me to do it. And, I replied again. Hey most instructor in youtube 2 will do. hahaha! boom!
I've been using two fingers on the brake lever for years but since changing my bike a few weeks ago, I'm slowly getting used to just using one...damn, those Brembo Stylema brakes are savage! I can still use two fingers but have to be careful not to squeeze the lever like I have been doing for a long time, so I switched to one finger while I recalibrate my brain to the new bike. My index finger rests on the lever in case a bit of additional braking force assistance is needed.
I still use all four on the clutch lever, maybe it's due to having relatively short fingers but cable clutches on superbikes feel heavy to me and just two fingers causes a lot of tendon strain.
My license instructor told me that only two fingers are allowed, don't know why. I pull clutch with 3 fingers and brake with two because I don't have to work with handle on clutch side so I don't see a problem there. He had one Kawa naked with ridiculously hard clutch, that's why I taught myself to use 3 fingers.
I've got cable clutch I would like to use 1 or 2 fingers for clutch but mine is too heavy so have to use 3.
What gloves are you using?
Those are Alpinestars SP-1, if I remember correctly.
I keep two fingers on the brake when I am concerned about needing to brake quickly, such as when approaching an intersection or a blind corner, because I can apply the brake without delay.
I got used to holding 2 fingers on the lever all the time. But braking only with two at all times makes my hand tired a lot. Is it fine ti brake with 4 in predictable situations like coming to a stop on red lights? Is it ok to take those fingers of the lever when going outside the city when ther's no twisties ahead and ni cars directly in front of me to relax my hand a bit?
I feel id be comfortable using 4 but ill try to use 2 to see if it can get comfortable doing it cause my fingers don't work well i guess my last fingers lack strength idk
How to ride on pure off-road downhill,1 gear with break and clutch control or?
Greetings from the pprc great advice.🇺🇸🏍
Very intelligent advice! Thx. (By the way you are a skilled rider!)
As a new rider I appreciate your tutorials 👍🏾
Great video, thanks :)
thank you for your insights much appreciated
For me is 1 for offroad and 2 for the asphalt (on both clutch and brake). Also, I always keep my fingers on the levers. That's just how I learnt and now is 2nd nature. ✌
This video is so much helpful, thanks a lot 🎉
Only use index fingers only
Just awesome. So good 👍
I was taught 4 fingers or you fail!
TL;DW - do whatever you prefer , just don’t grip the handlebars too tightly either way
Just saved you 4mins