Great informative video on speakers. Congrats on making 1,000 subscribers. Merry Christmas to you and your family. Have a safe and HappyNew Year. Thanks for sharing. Ken
Great video! I bought 2 different sized speakers from Tony's. The smaller enclosure (for the 15x11mm speaker) has a shelf which had the speaker lie flush like you show in your video. The larger enclosure (for the 18x13mm speaker) has a shelf which makes the speaker sit about half way down the enclosure. I wonder why they made it that way. I have glued the speaker flush and thus am not using the little shelf inside. Also the smaller speaker enclosure has an optional spacer to make the enclosure larger in volume if you have the space available in your locomotive. The large enclosure does not have this extra spacer. regards, NS.
I talked to the fellow who designed it and he said that having the speaker sit lower didn’t significantly affect the volume and the ledge makes it sit much lower for a better fit.
@@TheDCCGuy Thanks for the quick research and reply! I would think they would want a larger empty volume, but I'm sure they did a lot of testing. I bought several speakers and enclosures so I will try it with it sitting on the ledge. Thanks again! regards, NS.
I hope some time you will do how to install DCC in an American Models S scale locomotive. American Models is all DC for scale. If you have could you point me to it? Thanks
Hi Larry, I had another question. I am doing an install in a new release Atlas Master Gold GP38. I was wondering if 1 big speaker is better than 2 small speakers. The way the inside is laid out, you can really only put 2 speakers next to each other if you go that route (I always want a PowerPack capacitor in my locos too). These speaker acoustics are really interesting. I just bought a couple of the new Walthers NW2 switchers. As a test I took the stock speaker from the ESU sound equipped loco and popped it into the DCC ready loco along with a LokSound 5 micro plug in decoder and I was amazed how great it sounds, just that one small speaker upfront in the stock enclosure. regards, NS.
It depends on the size, type, and characteristics of the speakers. Once you get to a certain size the frequencies it can reproduce start to get louder in the low bass end. However with most sugar cube speakers they don’t put put much below 300 Hz. So in most cases you just get more volume, again depending on the relative sizes. If you use 2 make sure to observe polarity. Also if you have room take a look at the Zimo Dumbo sugar cubes with a specially designed enclosure, they can produce a lot of sound and can be found at www.sbs4dcc.com .
I recently used a Zimo Dumbo in a small steam tender and it blows the socks off a regular sugar cube although the enclosure is about as big as the speaker.
@@TheDCCGuy Thanks again Larry! I am going to order a few different sizes. I'm not sure if the smallest will work in this application (26x20 and I have about roughly 30x18 free space), but I have a couple of new Atlas FM H15-44's on order looks like they will fit nicely (I have an older one with the shell off right now). I may also be able to fit the 40x20 in the FM also (looks like I am limited to 21mm width). If I go with the Decoder Buddy Mini it should give me some extra room. Still learning how this all works, only 2 installs under my belt, but they're clean and they work! regards, NS
Mike, I think that I was referring to the videos on the N&W J class 4-8-4 locos and the Athearn Challenger. I used the high bass speakers in both those installations. Look under the installations section, they were done a couple years ago so dig deep.
Congratulations on breaking the 1000 subscribers mark!
Great informative video on speakers. Congrats on making 1,000 subscribers. Merry Christmas to you and your family. Have a safe and HappyNew Year. Thanks for sharing. Ken
Great video! I bought 2 different sized speakers from Tony's. The smaller enclosure (for the 15x11mm speaker) has a shelf which had the speaker lie flush like you show in your video. The larger enclosure (for the 18x13mm speaker) has a shelf which makes the speaker sit about half way down the enclosure. I wonder why they made it that way. I have glued the speaker flush and thus am not using the little shelf inside. Also the smaller speaker enclosure has an optional spacer to make the enclosure larger in volume if you have the space available in your locomotive. The large enclosure does not have this extra spacer. regards, NS.
I talked to the fellow who designed it and he said that having the speaker sit lower didn’t significantly affect the volume and the ledge makes it sit much lower for a better fit.
@@TheDCCGuy Thanks for the quick research and reply! I would think they would want a larger empty volume, but I'm sure they did a lot of testing. I bought several speakers and enclosures so I will try it with it sitting on the ledge. Thanks again! regards, NS.
I thought your shirt said Gary puckett for a moment, was just gonna burst out singing "young girl,.... get outta my mind".....
You’re showing your age my friend!
Happy New Year!!! Sounds like 1000 is a great Christmas present!
🎆 congratulations on 1000 subscribers Mark, Merry Christmas.
I hope some time you will do how to install DCC in an American Models S scale locomotive. American Models is all DC for scale. If you have could you point me to it? Thanks
Hi Larry, I had another question. I am doing an install in a new release Atlas Master Gold GP38. I was wondering if 1 big speaker is better than 2 small speakers. The way the inside is laid out, you can really only put 2 speakers next to each other if you go that route (I always want a PowerPack capacitor in my locos too). These speaker acoustics are really interesting. I just bought a couple of the new Walthers NW2 switchers. As a test I took the stock speaker from the ESU sound equipped loco and popped it into the DCC ready loco along with a LokSound 5 micro plug in decoder and I was amazed how great it sounds, just that one small speaker upfront in the stock enclosure. regards, NS.
It depends on the size, type, and characteristics of the speakers. Once you get to a certain size the frequencies it can reproduce start to get louder in the low bass end. However with most sugar cube speakers they don’t put put much below 300 Hz. So in most cases you just get more volume, again depending on the relative sizes. If you use 2 make sure to observe polarity. Also if you have room take a look at the Zimo Dumbo sugar cubes with a specially designed enclosure, they can produce a lot of sound and can be found at www.sbs4dcc.com .
@@TheDCCGuy Thanks! I will definitely try them out!
I recently used a Zimo Dumbo in a small steam tender and it blows the socks off a regular sugar cube although the enclosure is about as big as the speaker.
@@TheDCCGuy Thanks again Larry! I am going to order a few different sizes. I'm not sure if the smallest will work in this application (26x20 and I have about roughly 30x18 free space), but I have a couple of new Atlas FM H15-44's on order looks like they will fit nicely (I have an older one with the shell off right now). I may also be able to fit the 40x20 in the FM also (looks like I am limited to 21mm width). If I go with the Decoder Buddy Mini it should give me some extra room. Still learning how this all works, only 2 installs under my belt, but they're clean and they work! regards, NS
Check out video #70.
congrats on 1000 subs
Where can I find the sound comparison video you described in this video? Thanks! Great info!
Mike, I think that I was referring to the videos on the N&W J class 4-8-4 locos and the Athearn Challenger. I used the high bass speakers in both those installations. Look under the installations section, they were done a couple years ago so dig deep.
Ok I will check them out thank you!!
I've been hearing a lot about iphone speakers. I haven't worked with them yet, but they are small and put out a lot of sound.
Why no mention of iPhone speakers?
Keep watching there’s one in there among the other 370 videos, #211.
@@TheDCCGuy just found it watching it as we speak