Preterism has tremendous explanatory power. Ultimately, when you understand that Israelis are not Israelites, that they are not Hebrews or of the tribe of Judah, you will begin to understand everything.
Your's may be the most nonsensical comment upon any subject, in any context I have encountered. I don't intend discourtesy, but your comment is at least offensive to me, a Jewish follower of Jehoshua. Clarity, please. Pastor Greg
@@gregparis8948 History should explain it rather handily. Jews are extinct. Plain and simple. Just like many people groups in history. When their temple burned down, they lost their religion. With the temple went their Law, their prophets, their genealogy, the elements, the government, the economy, the very way of life of these tribal people. Their entire culture went up in smoke. The age ended, as many in that last generation of these temple people had been expecting, according to the gospels, Acts, and epistles. And the Jewish-Roman Wars weren’t over yet. Not for more than another six decades after the Great Revolt. After the bar Kokhba Revolt in the 130s, Judea lost the last vestiges of its identity. The country had been renamed Assyria-Palestina, and Jews were killed off, all but eliminated in the region. Whatever connection present-day Talmudic Jews may claim to the diaspora, whose heritage had been diluted through centuries of migration and intermarriage, they are not connected to Shem or Jacob. No one today carries any of that DNA. Whatever Jews you may know - Hasidic, Sephardic, Ashkenazi, whatever - they are not Semitic. So, let not your heart be troubled. Your people are not the people of the Bible. Your people are not the idolaters, warmongers, and evildoers whose failure of worship and corruption of Moses would result in their last days, foretold as far back as Moses himself. You have no reason to be offended.
@@danny-yy9fv the New Testament scriptures are here for everyone to see (understand) Preterism if they will quit believing the futurist teachings on them which is mankind’s teaching on them and start believing God’s teaching on them which is preterist teaching on them
You're so right. In all my years, going to various churches, they would NEVER talk about that. Like so many shame words that get tossed around when you challenge a doctrine or wont get in line, Preterist is one of the most disingenuous of them all. Since I accepted the obvious truth that JESUS was telling the truth and that he meant exactly what he said, I also began to wonder why the churches steer clear from that. I came to a conclusion that was based on the backlash I got when I would bring it up. They keep their congregations united through FEAR. They justify this through a collection of false beliefs (the chosen people) and false teachings, a stronghold that is chained by pride and fear. The pride comes out the second that you tell them it already happened, they immediately balk at you, not loving, not in a noble way but in a fierce rebuke. If they do manage to stay calm, they descend into a foggy world of dual meanings, rearranging time to mean other things, crazy 'theories'...anything to keep from believing the LORD. I think they're terrified of the implication, what it would mean if they suddenly began telling the truth. They'd get back lash, scorned, painted with the words they once used against others. John MacArthur can't get though a single sermon with out mentioning the 'soon to come bodily return of JESUS CHRIST'. It's one of the saddest things I see today and I think it all plays into the hands of some VERY evil people and 'spiritual wickedness in heavenly places' or "aliens" which are demons.
@@TheCountofToulouse very well said! Thank you for your comments. Fear is a very powerful manipulator. But I also try to have Grace for people that really have trouble accepting this version of things because it is a total paradigm shift. I think when we are confronted with something that is just completely the opposite of what we’ve always believed the initial reaction is to lash out, but maybe as things sink in overtime they will be able to think about it with less fear and anger. I mean, I didn’t accept this overnight!🙏❤️
I listened to a young lady that was adopted into a satanic family and was raped and satanically abused all her life. She came to Christ and was able to escape. She said John McArthur is definitely not who you think he is? I can’t tell you what that means but it doesn’t sound good.
@@BeleeuerThrough a decade-long process of reexamining what I've been taught vs. what I actually believe, I've given myself permission to be OK with being an agnostic. I can no longer reconcile Evangelical Christianity with what I read in and how I interpret the bible. So here's my timeline: Youth group kid, Christian college, ordination, pastor, partial preterist, full preterist, agnostic.
You are right about that someone who was brought up in the church has a harder time believing that Jesus already returned in that generation. I wasn’t brought up in the church. I am a new Christian . I learned this about a year ago and believed it right away. Also when I mentioned this about Jesus returning in that generation to a fellow Christian leader at my church their first response well… it’s not a salvation issue!! I laughed out loud when you said that because that the go to line.
@@reneesuter7884 Awww that’s really neat to hear that it was easier for you without all the years of programming! I’m happy that you found Jesus and kept Jesus🙏❤️
Thanks, for this video , we have followed along that path of growing , thru all of the futurist thinking and come to the same conclusion! Many years of reading our Bible, but not thinking (I guess) because it is now very shocking to realize what is truly being said! We must read it over and pray for understanding...we realize we are all growing at a different pace, love to all! 🥰🙏🙏🙏
As a successful 501c3 corporation, we find it better to avoid those contentious verses that might cause our pew-sitters to go down various rabbit holes and/or question our fundamentals of the faith. Nor do we want our flow of tithes to be disturbed...
Very few churches even talk about the Kingdom of God. Apparently the great commission is to get everyone saved so we can be whisked away to heaven so we can avoid the Kindom on earth
Greetings, Yes and Amen.... Fundamentally and in every other way, Jesus entire ministry was about the Kingdom of God and revealing God the Father to mankind - for the first time. Frankly, I believe salvation is not understood just as sanctification is not understood. John the Gospel writer declares that one born from above CANNOT sin.... To understand what this means is to truly receive revelation of the Kingdom....from the Holy Spirit Love and blessings to you my friend.... ❤🫂❤ John 3:8 Matthew 20:20-28
There is no great commission, But there IS the ministry of reconciliation, which is given unto the body of CHRIST. Commission occurs 1 time in the new testament, and it was given unto Saul to go persecute Jesus believing Jews everywhere. Thank GOD he met him in the way and used him to give us the ministry of reconciliation. Jesus gave his 12 Apostles instructions to go everywhere beginning at Jerusalem. Why was Peter and John still in Jerusalem 21 years after Jesus gave them this supposed great commission?
@@danielvargas9100 Greetings Daniel, Having grown up in Australia in a greek household [greek immigrant parents] who were devout "church goers" therefore as a kid so was I. Then married a "catholic" so had that experience for a while. Then came into the "evangelical" community after we enrolled our kids into a "christian school" - not necessarily for the "christian" bit but rather they offered primary and secondary on one campus and that appealed.... Anyway I digress. My entire experience of "institutional chruch" [not a slur - a subjective description/distinction] does not interpret the New Testament through the lens of the proclamation of the Kingdom in a way that many might grasp the significant distinction between the OT and the NT - especially when you consider that Jesus entire "teaching part" of His ministry was about the Kingdom of God. Speaking always into groups of people who "believed" in God, yet Jesus declared "Repent and Believe". I believe it is important to pause and ask why Jesus would tell people who claimed they believed in God, who went to synagogue weekly to receive teaching from the religious leaders [Pharisees and Scribes], who went to the temple daily to pray......to repent and BELIEVE. I believe very simply - because they knew NOT who God is. Hence Jesus, the light of the world giving sight to the blind, hearing to the deaf, liberty to the captives and raising the dead to life. It is ALL SPIRITUAL - therefore the natural must die. That's why the natural must comes first, but that which is last.....lasts forever because it was always before the first and formed it. Love and blessings. ❤🫂❤
@@danielvargas9100 I’ve been researching this topic for over 5 years, and attending evangelical churches across the country for 49 years. I can’t even find a seminary course on this topic. It is occasionally brought up, but it is a central theme of Christ ministry.
@@paulwise6856 or here’s another option, no Satan‘s little season either because everything has been fulfilled. Meaning that the evil we see in the world is not the result of Satan but the result of ourselves. “Satan “means the adversary. It is sometimes personified in the Bible, but remember that James said “each person is tempted when he is Lord and enticed by his own desires.“ Meaning there isn’t a bogeyman going around tempting us. Even if there was a “Satan“ he is not omnipresent like God he could only be in one place at a time, tempting one person at a time so I think we end up giving him way too much credit!❤️🙏
"Some of you won't die until you see me coming in my kingdom", Is answered in The next verse. Matt 17. "and after six days, Jesus took Peter, James, and John up on a high mountain apart.." If you will see that Jesus gave them a glimpse of his coming, saying he was "transfigured". These three saw him futuristicly returning. If that is too vague for you, remember John later saw all this from a heavenly perspective in writing the Revelation of Jesus Christ before he died. I hope this helps if you want to "see".
Do you believe Jesus repaid everyone according to their deeds at the transfiguration?? “For the Son of Man is (about to) Mello -3195 come in the glory of His Father with His angels, and will then repay every man according to his deeds. “Truly I say to you, there are some of those who are standing here who will not taste death until they see the Son of Man coming in His kingdom.”” Matthew 16:27-28
Do you really believe he has already returned and fought against those that came and surrounded Israel as he mentions he will do when he returns? (Zech 14). You haven't seen anything yet. Prophesy left to fulfill..world wide.
Then Can I assume you also believe what "the heretic chick says about the "known world" and not the actual Whole world? Then I guess you believe Noah's flood only destroyed the known world and not the actual full world which is what is written. As it was in the days of Noah, so shall it be at the coming of the Lord.
When Jesus says this generation will not taste death He is talking about the generation in the future that witnesses all those events will not taste death.
@@Sidney051 that interpretation is creative, but it is forcing something into the next that isn’t there just because it doesn’t match our expectations. If Jesus would have said that “ this generation “ or “ some standing here” won’t die until he was crucified, no one would be debating what “ this generation “ means. I always think about how I would feel if some other religion used that reasoning for why their prophet didn’t follow through as promised. I would say,” clearly your prophet is false and you are making excuses for him.” That’s how I see it anyway❤️🙏
@ no I absolutely don’t doubt him. I believe that he did exactly what he said he would do exactly when he said he would do it. But I also am aware that atheist see it a different way and I would think the same thing of Mohammed if he said he was coming back” this generation“ and didn’t do it.I think it’s not Jesus that was wrong. It is our expectations that were wrong because we don’t understand Hebraic apocalyptic language. If you check out my video “Glenn Beck and CS Lewis versus Jesus” I think it would explain a lot.
I stopped after the first one. Matt 16:28 doesn't mean what you are implying. It is not a "gotcha" verse, because there are no "gotcha" verses. Work on your own salvation, and not dismantling others'.
@@my1vice Thanks for commenting! If you watch a little farther you will hear of a lot of people who had their faith dismantled from that verse. I just think there is a better explanation 🙏❤️
I've just looked up "heretic" and "heresy" in the Merriam-Webster online dictionary, and, guess what: You are right! > "Heresy": ... from haireîn "to take, grasp, (middle voice) obtain, choose, prefer"
When you put the Nobleman who went on a Long Journey parable ( in Luke 19) together with the Vineyard Owner whose Son the renters Killed parable, ... and ADD them with what the Septuagint says that the Messiah would do ( with the army of a coming prince ) to the City of Jerusalem AND it's temple. And that is Exactly what God allowed and even Ordained to take Place... just like Jesus said 34 years before the siege began. Dan 9:26 - 27 ie He ( messiah who was just cut off ) will DESTROY the City and the sanctuary --- or temple -- with the people of a coming prince" is what it says.
@timoromeo7663 I was guilty of mixing law with grace and having neither. Not that I see my error, I can spot it in others. It all started when I asked too many questions of a pentecostal church. They shunned me and I thought I was just having a deep Bible study. He said I couldn't have been baptized in the Holy Spirit because I didn't speak in tongues. I researched the history of pentecostalism and that lead to rightly dividing. I was always wondering where I was in the Bible and where we are in biblical history or prophecy. Two verses stand out to me know, Never mix law with grace or you will have neither. And, some believe themselves to be Jews but are not. I see now that Acts of the Apostles is a transitional book going from law to grace. Some books in the new testament are describing what happened in the old testament under the law. I'm trying to witness but I can't keep up with all the responses. I feel like maybe I should be quiet. Needless to say God showed me some truth about that church. He knew I was thinking of going there and was one step ahead of me.
@@rickcampanella4254 Amen Brother, I grew up with a stepfather who was a pastor of a full gospel mission in Denver, and a father who was apostolic. Both are pentecostal. Since I was eight years old I could see there was a problem between Peter and Paul. There's even a Peter Paul candy company out today. Anyway, I went out into the world and said to my dad who was a backsliding, alchoholic who was always quoting the bible and always had his bibles all marked up, that when I came to the LORD that I wanted it to be for the rest of my life, which it is now. I had to get into the word MYSELF and got all gusto for bible study and people didn't have the answers to my questions. Including pastors of which the latest one I told that I was under the law of faith, and he said that wasn't a thing. I was lucky I had my cruden's concordance with me and told him it was Romans 3:27. I haven't been back there since. It's an AG church here in a small town. I don't have much fellowship out here. So I spent hours upon hours studying my KJV and everything I could about manuscript evidence and other things that I feel need to be taught in church other than OLD TESTAMENT which includes mostly all of Matt.-John. I tell anyone where the Gospel is and then what happens when you hear the good news. Here it is..1 Cor.15:14 Good News and Eph.1:10-14 When you believe the Good news of your salvation, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures, And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures: we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins, according to the riches of his grace; YOU WERE SEALED with that Holy Spirit of promise, Which is the EARNEST of our inheritance UNTIL the redemption of the purchased possession, unto the praise of his glory. Wherefore comfort one another with these words. - The Apostle Paul, the apostle of the gentiles. The greatest Apostle. With Love in Christ...Amen
I agree with you 100% in that new believers need to hear the truth about Jesus coming back in the first century and fulfilling to perfection every word he said about his second coming. Anyone who says that this generation in Matthew 24:34 doesn't mean the generation that jesus was speaking to is definitely not being true to the text. This videos are awesome 👍 Keep on spreading the truth 👊
1 Thessalonians 5. 4 thru 8. We're not children of nite. We're children of day that the day of the Lord won't be as a thief in the nite. Praise God. Thanku.
I like Mike Winger too but he is associated with Calvary Chapel which is vert dispensational. They hold the modern state of Israel in high esteem which is a major error. Their eschatology is Darby/Schofield based which is futurism.
Do a video on the word “mello” in the NT text. How unless you use YLT, you will not get “about to be”, in hundreds of eschatological texts. That’s a great “secrets”, shhhhh, no one told you and you won’t get from the pulpit. Try that one, it may take a week of studying but there are hundreds of verses that omit “mello”. About to be. As in… oh what a concept..that generation. It’s jaw dropping! 😮
Based upon a number of the comments from what are apparently clear non-Christians an immediate verse springs to mind. Proverbs 12:15 "The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that hearkeneth unto counsel is wise.".
Being a Christian believer, you don't die, spiritually, Jesus would say sleeping, yes your body goes back to the earth, but believers in heaven are more alive than us here on earth.
This is the thing that baffles me. Futurists say preterism is heresy and does not even deserve a seat at he table of eschatological views. But we are taking the Bible at face value. The NT says often that they were in the last days in the first century and that the end would come in their generation. The book ends with a letter to the seven churches of Asia Minor in the first century and says to them Jesus is coming soon. Our take is literally the most accurate and faithful to the text.
To tell the truth i just used to go along with the explanation a pastor or teacher would give/ but like you l started asking Questions. The main thing that got me was when I read The revelation of Christ the future didn't make since when I read the book of Hebrews/ but since listen tou you and others/ you give good reference s/ now everything makes since. But now that I'm unlearning the Bible I go through a lot of uncertainty but I can give my faith up. Christ is King/ he's ruling from heaven, at least that's where I'm at right now
@@paulkirby7794 First we can trust God because it is so amazing how he fulfilled everything just as he said he would❤️. Our hope is the new covenant, written on our hearts. It is that we are perfected through Christ and are no longer separated from God. The tribulation was in the past. When we die, we leave our bodies and continue to be with God but I think that will be a totally unimaginable experience so I can’t speculate. But I don’t believe it involves my physical body, just like Jesus didn’t have a physical body before he came to earth and just like God is spirit. So it’s much the same as the mainstream thought minus the apocalypse and rapture and waiting around for a body. I still call it heaven. Is that what you are asking?
@paulkirby7794 Yes, he is ruling from Heaven!...his Kingdom is the Spiritual Kingdom! Nothing happens in our physical world that's not moved or directed by Powers and Principalities in the Spiritual world first. You're not "unlearning the Bible." The Pharisees knew ALL the Scriptures, but Jesus called them deaf and blind. God is giving you eyes to see and ears to hear! We physically live in a world ruled by "governments" (control minds) through witchcraft and sorcery, the very reason the meaning of our words are called "definitions" (deaf Phonecians), and "spelling" these words cast curses and/or blessings! We underestimate the power of our words and the spiritual implications they "possess ."
Yeah, I think I misspoke in my video. I don’t even have 777 subscribers yet. I think I had 777 views on a video one day and that is what I was thinking of. Anyway, I’m glad you stumbled across my channel and I hope you find something helpful! Thanks!🙏❤️
I believe the Word is dual or double prophecy! Such as "The End"... in Matthew 24 was about the coming destruction of Jerusalem AND for the End of Times! The Exodus of the Israelites was not only about being freed from slavery of Egypt and journeying to the Promised Land, BUT also refers to Us fleeing "Babylon" and going into the wilderness to be refined and become Brides of Christ into the New Jerusalem! Yehovah is Awesome! 😊
@@kristinbingamon568 Thanks for sharing your thoughts, this morning on my walk, the Jehovah's witnesses were out and about. I always enjoy chatting with them, sharing concepts they've never heard before is a whole lotta fun.
the amplified has a good understanding on this verse Matt 24:34 Amp Amplified Bible I assure you and most solemnly say to you, this generation [the people living when these signs and events begin] will not pass away until all these things take place. its a parable about the generation at the 2nd coming not them present at that time !
@@wolfwatchers if Jesus had wanted to say that he meant the generation he was talking to was who he was talking to how else could he have said it? I find it interesting that in chapter 23 everyone accepts that he means the generation 2000 years ago. It’s only when it doesn’t match our preconceived beliefs that we try to change the meaning. There is a different Greek word if he wanted to say ,”that” generation 2000 in the future😉🙏❤️
@@kristinbingamon568 we must take the whole page into context, first off its in a parable, parables are never literal ! the wheat and tares is not about farming wheat , the whole context of the parable is being ready at all times , you must at least agree you are taking this parable literal! also all of believing Israel, before the body of christ were promised resurrection at the second coming where they will see all these things the lord described in the verses before and after the parable! none of them die they have been given eternal life upon their repentance and water baptism, you consider them dying but Christ considers them alive eternally ! John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him👉 should not perish, but have everlasting life.
@@kristinbingamon568 he is talking to them back then, not us but what you're failing to take into account is they will never die ! matt 24 :34 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass. they are eternal it does not mean all these things happened back then its they will never pass! and they will witness the coming of the son of man ! they are resurrected gathered from the 4 corners and witness all these things John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. Gods looking at them as eternal not dying like we tend to look at it as
*sigh* If Jesus was a false prophet, then why would we think we should believe him about anything else? If I held that view and was a preacher I could just pick and choose what Jesus said to suit what I wanted it to be. What is desperately needed is "The Story of Jesus" that includes his spiritual return in 70AD with the obliteration of Jerusalem. There were people who witnessed this. There is the writing of Josephus that describes in great detail the destruction of Jerusalem. There really were miraculous occurrences at that time that Christians witnessed as did the Jews. The truth is so much more valuable, not to mention interesting, than a tale in which Jesus didn't really know what he was saying, or that he didn't mean it the way he said it. Anyway, great lesson. Keep them coming!
@@evrytribe it’s so embarrassing! There are always flies… I think it’s because we have horses. I’m really not that filthy of a person and there aren’t decomposing corpses lying around my house.😂🙏❤️
There's no "secret hidden" verses. No one is hiding anything. In your ego you think you've discovered something and that it's unanswered. You can find tons of literature written on these verses for the last 2,000 years.
@ Shane_ Maybe you are the one with the ego problem. The early church knew these predictions by Jesus to be true and fulfilled. Daniel chapter 9 verses 25-27 were fulfilled from AD 31 to AD 70. The sister speaking here is not a scholar. If you want to educate yourself on these issues I strongly recommend Bruce Gore here on RUclips. He is one of the top Christian scholars and Bible teachers alive today. Until you get a grip on this you will continue to be a toddler in the Word.
@@charlesmorse386 it is not necessary that no man teach you, but the holy spirit. Why did God tell daniel shut up the book, for it was not for him to know? Your stuck in the Old Testament as well.
@@bing621the very next event after Matthew 16-28 they watched Jesus transform into his spiritual body. Remember Jesus says my kingdom is not of this world. Spiritual. Ask me more
@@autobri1 Are you saying that you believe Jesus “returned in the glory of the father with his angels, and repaid everyone according to their deeds” at the transfiguration?
The word used for generation γενεά - genea can mean: birth race, descent generation offspring Now try inserting race into the passage you are referring to and read the whole chapter(also the chapter before and after it) with that in mind. God bless you!
@@ophiuchus9071 Okay, so you have to throw the Bible away, because it prophesied the recreation of Israel which happened in 1949. Israel is a country today. People tried to kill Israel over the last 4000 years but they didn't succeed. Good luck justifying your ignorance before God.
Wow, I used to think that way but I kept praying and ask the spirit for truth. Most things have dual and sometimes 3 fulfillments. First is physical and then spiritual. Remember the first Temple was a tent covered with animal skin and it moved around the second and Third was a stone temple. Now there is a Spiritual Temple. It all comes back around Paul said “don’t you know that you are the Temple of God” We are a mobile temple covered with skin with Jesus Christ as the head. The Bible says the physical body must die for the spiritual to live. In Matthew 24 it has a dual fulfillment also, the ones that believed Jesus when they seen the army surround Jerusalem left the city and were saved from destruction. The second part of the prophecy has been happening since 1948 and this is the generation that will see that destruction again. And right now the abomination of desolation is standing in the holy place but most Christian’s are worshiping the beast that had a wound in 70 AD and yet lived. This is for those with eyes to see and ears to hear. May God Show you truth. There is so much
@@bing621your wife is right those things were fulfilled in Jesus time. The Bible is full of types and shadows for instance, Hebrew slaves in Egypt are a foreshadow of believers (Christians) Egypt is the world Moses is a type of Christ. And from this we see them going through the water or baptism. They follow the law and are brought to the promised land. ie heaven
What is your point ? If you need answer ask your husband .. don't try to be suspicious about verses .. if we have correct understandings off all scriptures then we don't need anything more at all ..
I have heard different opinions on the verse "There are some here who will not taste death until ......". Some say the Transfiguration, some say the Resurrection, some say the Rapture/ 2nd Coming. I heard more preaching on these topics back in the 80s when I was growing up, than I hear today in the Church. Another opinion I heard on that matter about the "This generation shall not pass away...." Was people born in 1948. I heard that back in the 80s. So the lead baby boomer who are now in their mid 70s won't completely die off. I guess they got another 20 years left, maybe 25 if they're real lucky LOL. Maybe a few record breakers, 30.....
Stars,moon fallen is not only about judgment. God revealed Himself only to that 1 specific nation . He said ´´If you hear my voice,you shall be my kingdom of priests´´ In NT language ``If you hear what the Spirit say `` They had a opportunity to learn from God and bring rest of the nations to Him. The whole picture is very easy to understand..Sun will be darkened Stars,moon,are seen only in the night. / They were only nation that had knowledge of true God..Rest lived in darkens..So sun that gave them light will stop to give,and they will fall into darkness to... Change of priesthood. Change of Covenant 2Co 3:7 But if the ministry of death, written and engraved on stones, was glorious, so that the children of Israel could not look steadily at the face of Moses because of the glory of his countenance, which glory was passing away, End of that old ,beginning of 2Co 3: 8 how will the ministry of the Spirit not be more glorious? 2Co 3: 11 For if what is passing away was glorious, what remains is much more glorious.
John saw the son of man coming in his kingdom, in a vision, which he wrote down in the book of Revelation. Perhaps that's who Jesus was talking about. Blessed are those who believe without seeing. But hey, I should have been warned by the name of the channel. Who comes out and calls themself a heretic? Normally that's a label used by the orthodox to warn people to steer clear. Very curious how someone can be proud of their false teaching.
@@aftonline Jesus said,” for the son of man is ABOUT ( look up Greek) to come with his angels in the glory of his father. Then he will repay each person according to what he has done. Matthew 16:27 The only reason to say this is just referring to a vision and not the real deal is because it doesn’t align with what you have been taught. There is nothing in scripture to suggest that. I understand your position but I think we should be allowed to ask questions and let the Bible take the lead.🙏❤️.
I can’t understand why people don’t read the Bible themselves rather than being told what it says. Jesus stated clearly that he was talking to his disciples, how much more obvious can it be?
There are plenty of other verses that the modern church doesn’t like. So they either skip over them or they do a false explanation and twist the verse to the narrative.
Daniel 11 45 And *_he shall plant the tabernacles of his palace between the seas in the glorious holy mountain;_* yet he shall come to his end, and none shall help him. Ezekiel 9 4 And the Lord said unto him, Go through the midst of the city, through the midst of Jerusalem, and set a mark upon the foreheads of the men that sigh and that cry *for* all the abominations that be done in the midst thereof. This verse explains the Mark of the Beast, but the Church claims it’s the mark Of God. But if you read the entire chapter, everything lines up with Revelation 13 and the Mark Of The Beast. In the verse, “for” means “not against” or “in favor of”. They were performing false worship, then God’s men were told not to harm the ones with the mark, but to go kill the innocents.
Matthew 27 52 And the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints which slept arose, 53 And came out of the graves after his resurrection, and went into the holy city, and appeared unto many. The church doesn’t like these verses because it provides evidence of the resurrection of the Saints in Revelation 20 as a past event.
@@michaelseay9783 The resurrection has been ongoing for 2000 years now and will continue until the last believer rhymes with ties in the seconds before Jesus returns at the end of the 7 years of Jacob’s Trouble. This is perfectly in accordance with 1 COR 15. The resurrection of Revelation 20 is not a one-time event just before His return. The First Resurrection is a title of a category.
@ there is no 7 year Tribulation. It was 3 1/2 years, which was the war of 66 to 70 AD (Rev 11:2), then the 6th seal was opened: The Great Tribulation, which was 45 days (Daniel 12:11-12).
So, I watched waiting for the "punch line" but you never spoke of it. What event marked Christ's return in judgment? The Jewish war was about AD 67 to 74 with the fall of Jerusalem occurring about half way through. Match this up with Hebrews 8:13 and the "end of the world" comes into focus. Can there be any doubt that we are part of the Kingdom of God right this very moment? That this kingdom was established during the days of the Roman kings as prophecied in Daniel 2? This truth does not sell books and movies, though, does it?
@Hereticchickchat 👊😇Love your eschatology take & high IQ!! Another one I never heard anybody preach about is: Rev. 11:14 The second woe "has passed", the third woe is coming soon. Wait WHAT?? Lol Also I discovered something called the Clement Homily Books, that were held aside & privately dispersed in the early church years. Internal evidence suggests they were originally written very early as Peter was still eating separately and hadn't been admonished by Paul. These explain Parables, Eschatology, free will,The Giants, plus several debates with Apostle Peter VS Simon Mangus. This literally filled in all the cracks of the Bible we had ever wondered about. Anyhow, I started a channel to post free audio Books of "forgotten church history, I would love your input on these Clement homily books as they're very deep & your brilliant!! God bless you & yours 🤗
@@4kBible sounds very interesting. I will check it out! I think brilliant is a wee bit of an overstatement, but I appreciate the kind words.😅😂🙏❤️ PS I never thought about the second woe being passed and the third woe coming soon as the way I think you are suggesting it. So I will definitely have to think about that! Maybe I had a little bit of futurism still stuck in my brain that you just helped loosen up for me🥰. I think what I am rambling about is that I thought it meant in the vision the second woe had passed, but what you are suggesting is that the second woe had already passed when John wrote the book of Revelation? Or maybe I’m misunderstanding.
Revelation is "earlier"... Same chapter Rev 11 John measured "The Temple", lol "that Temple" that was presently "still standing", provided measurements and all. Obviously John didn't measure a future temple in the vision.😅
@@4kBible The 3 woes are described in REV 8:13. They are commensurate with the remaining 3 trumpet judgements: Trumpet 5,6,7. REV 9:12 says that woe 1 is concluded after trumpet 5 is blown. Then trumpet 6 is blown and 11:14 says woe 2 is concluded. Trumpet 7 is blown and it contains woe 3.
@@mstru79 Read REV 11:1 carefully. There is measuring going on of not just “the temple”. The PEOPLE are being measured here as well and at the same time. Clearly the measuring that is going on here is not one of physical dimensionality. This is a spiritual measuring or analysis going on here that the angel wants John to undertake. In other words the angel wants John to take note of the spiritual condition at the time he views it.
Yeah, Revelation 11:1 and following is pretty hard to set into some future temple time. It’s obviously the same temple Jesus pointed at. The mental massage and gymnastics required to shoehorn that into ones own conception of what they NEED it to mean is just the most disturbing part of futuristic fallacies. My humble opinion… for whatever that’s worth. I just can’t make any of it fit my old paradigm anymore, like none of it!! 😅
@@kristinbingamon568I also have to say it is so nice to be able to actually get some interaction and replies to comments. Being able to talk to other like minded people is very uplifting, so thank you for that as well 😁
@@fishingisfun8841 your welcome! Preterism can be a lonely road for sure so I love getting a chance to talk to people🙏❤️. I hate making videos but I love the chatting in the comment section😂
It is not hard to find heresy in the churches today. The world is upside down, not the Kingdom of God. In the Hebrew and Greek there is unity of faith and doctrine. We have one God, one Bible and one Faith. The modern day Jews are not, and have never been, God's Israel people as proven by the bible, history and even Jewish writings. The bible becomes a beautiful love story when one gets who is who. Christ did not fail in His mission!
@@larrnew What does the bible say? The same people who were Israel when the ten commandments were given are the same people today. There are over 100 promises and prophecies as to what true physical Israel would do. Israel is to be a keeper of the Word of God. Israel is to take the Gospel to the world while forming many Christian nations. There are just three. For the last almost 2000 years, what one people have heard Christ's voice and followed Him as Christ himself said? It really is amazing how the scripture changes and can be read for what it says without "spiritualizing" so much of it.
@@larrnew Trying to be brief. The people who today say they are Jews by their own writings, 90% are of Khazar, Ashkenaz descent through a grandson of Japheth. They are not Israelites. Esau is Edom, Genesis 36. "Edom is in modern Jewry", The Jewish Encyclopedia. 9% are of Edomite, Canaanite descent. These are the descendants of those who argued with Christ and saw to Christ's death. See what Christ told them in John 8. They admitted they were not Israelites. "Strictly speaking, it is incorrect to call an ancient Israelite a 'Jew' or to call a contemporary Jew an 'Israelite' or a 'Hebrew.'" "The Jewish Almanac", Compiled and Edited by Richard Siegel and Carl Rheins (New York: Bantam Books, 1980) 3. Today's Jews fulfill none of the prophecies for Israel. The terms Jew and Gentile are not in the Hebrew and Greek text. What people have fulfilled the prophecy for Israel in the previous post? God did not fail. God did not switch to a Plan B and find another bride. True Israel is found in the people who have been Christians for the last almost 2000 years.
@@larrnew Sorry I was being accurate, but I did not contradict. Read it again. The modern day Jews are not, and have never been, God's Israel people as proven by the bible, history and even Jewish writings. "Jews" does not equal "Israel". "Jews began to call themselves Hebrews and Israelites in 1860" -Encyclopedia Judaica 1971 Vol 10:23. "Strictly speaking, it is incorrect to call an ancient Israelite a 'Jew' or to call a contemporary Jew an 'Israelite' or a 'Hebrew.'" "The Jewish Almanac", Compiled and Edited by Richard Siegel and Carl Rheins (New York: Bantam Books, 1980) 3
@@markhicks2800 I asked our pastor and an elder. They gave similar answers to Mike Winger…” this” means “ that”…”some standing here will not taste death “equals the transfiguration. No mention of angels coming to reward and repay as in the prior verse. Just a bunch of twisting of words. 😖🤪
@@markhicks2800 I think we should definitely ask our pastors and leadership! I just don’t think we will like their answers… at least I found them unsatisfactory.🙏❤️. And they don’t like being asked…. That has been my experience anyway.
I believe you have a good point and do agree with your view. However, I strong believe that your initial presentation of the topic is not accurate in that pastors are intentionally hiding these verses because they do not want their congregation to know about it. To intentionally hide this from the congregation is to say that they know the truth but do not share it for some Allterior motive. This is not the case. I believe those that do not hold our view is simply due to their conviction on how the bible is to be interpreted based on their theology/eschatology. I do not believe pastors are intentionally deceiving their congregation while hold off the truth. Unfortunately, their theology/eschatology does not allow them to accommodate the truth of these verses and so they either dont address it due to difficulty of passage or simply have a different view on how to interpret that verse. Casting a negative light to churches in intentionally withholding information simply causes many to become discouraged and confused on the many contradictions within Christianity that makes it much easier to just walk away from it all.
I like the two scripture portions of Jesus birth, in the book of Matthew they had to go to Egypt. We know God's children are called out of Egypt. The book of Mark is a workers group. The time is cut short in chapter 13. The second birth of Jesus in the book of Luke. We see they went to the temple did a dedication and all went home to Galilee. Jesus did not say his prayer in the garden until the book of John chapter 17 , love the part protect them where they are or let them be where I am. There is also the blood and the water from the soldier piercing the side speaking of in the flesh in the book of John. As Jesus did give up the ghost, the soul. As the spirit can come and go if the soul is still in the body. The father gave him the power to lay down his life and pick it back up. As we will also be able to do , after receiving holy Ghost in a new body. Right now we can only go in and out in spirit, F1 can see and hear in spirit. As many people are still wondering what is spirit and what is ghost.❤
OK, I’m not really concerned with when this takes place only that it takes place and I don’t mean just the reconciliation of men I mean the reconciliation of all of God’s creation, including the angels, the fallen angels, etc. you see God knew to the end which means if he lost any souls, it would be a huge oversight. God’s punishments are corrective in nature meaning he is not going to punish someone who does not have the ability to correct themselves. That would just be torture. We know God is love so it is contrary to how any father would treat his children. Also the word Aeon in Greek was miss translated by William Tisdale for the King James Bible. Originally it meant for a time, Tisdale changed it to mean eternal. This is obviously extremely terrifying to burn in hell forever with no end in sight and then just be exterminated. This was done to control people through fear and give the church. The highest authority have ever heard the term first one in last one out? as a football player, I heard this all the time in regards to or going to the gym. we can deduce that Lucifer was the first created being. he was the most powerful and beautiful angel. That being said it makes sense that he could take on this burden of being Satan. I believe one day he will return to God. He was the first one in hell and will be the last one out hell from my understanding is the state of purgatory where you go to burn off sin most of us need secondary schooling after this school in order to enter God’s holy kingdom. This is also why Jesus said that going straight from this world into heaven is like a camel going through the eye of a needle. You pretty much have to be a saint have some that have done this that didn’t even experience a mortal death. Like I said, I’m not really concerned with how or when God‘s creation returns to him. I’m only concerned that it returns to him many people fear and have a lot of concern for people that have been lost at the time of death. I like to make them aware that they may be in purgatory and depending on what they did, there are levels to purgatory, but purgatory is finite, God would never give any punishment for a finite sin. Let me know your thoughts on this. Appreciate the dialogue here.
I can't think of a prophet or apostle that wasn't viewed as a heretic. Our Lord and Savior's mortal ministry showed that He was the greatest heretic of them all. It's good company. I'm a happy heretic too.
Thank you for saying it’s a salvation issue because it is. The difference is to not be believing Jesus’s word & to not be believing Jesus’s words is to be lost isn’t it? The Jews did not believe Jesus’s words as a whole then or even now & they are lost like everyone else who will not believe Jesus’s words.
@ think about that , meditate on it . I’m thinking people are believing in Jesus as a futurist as far as he was/is real but they are not believing Jesus meaning what he said his meaning & his decision to come second time in the first century. They are not agreeing with him & his plan . A person can be a deceiver of their own self which I think is what happening to futurist & us when we were futurist. Got more proof I think in Matthew 7 around verse 28 or so only the ones doing his will will be in the kingdom of God. Now in Greek the word doeth is a sense of agreeing & the word will in Greek is desire, decision & good pleasure; so not agreeing will his decision keeps a person out of the kingdom & that would be lost wouldn’t it? Like is said if not why not? That’s the way I see (understand, perceive) it and tell others of it . That’s the importance of it to me and why evidently few there be that find it Lord Oh Lord…..
On the topic of heresy...Christ was crucified for that very crime. Stephen was stoned to death for the same thing. Martin Luther...yup the church made the same charge against him. Strange when you think about heresy in those contexts. A really fun verse is 1 John 4:2-3. Think about those verses very carefully and our modern political world.
You are just taking verses out of context- People who have actually literal ability know the Bible is progressive revelation, so it must become taken in context. They did see Christ return after the resurrection and John received the vision of the end times. It was fulfilled and is being fulfilled.
@ yes and he will return in the clouds at his second coming- but after his first coming Jerusalem was destroyed and the Jews are exiled for 2000 years and they are hated of all nations as Jesus said they would be(Matt 24:9), just turn on the news, all the nations are against Israel today. This generation means the race of Jews because it the Greek word Genea is also translated, age nation and time. This generation is still happening because the nation is still happening. The
@@ahammer7000 I think if you read Matthew in context, starting all the way back in chapter 23 you will see that Jesus is talking about the destruction of the temple. Then the disciples ask him about the destruction of the temple and link it to his coming and the end of the age. The book of Hebrews says that the temple is the symbol for the end of the age. So when I think about the context of Matthew 23 and 24 there is no way getting around that the context is completely temple and old covenant related. Contextually it had absolutely nothing to do with the end of the world and I just can’t see any way around that.🙏❤️
@ the disciples ask a direct question about when is the end of the world. Matt 24:3 And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world”
@@kaixo49 thanks for commenting. I think the preterist explanation is the simplest explanation and the only one that doesn’t distort scripture. I would argue it was invented by Jesus😉🙏❤️
@@kristinbingamon568 Not thue Preterism is using hermaneutics to make interpretation ignoring context. It seems that yoou have an automated response. Please make a valid argument. Explain WHY you hold that view, otherwise you are promoting Jesuitism and false doctrine. This is my last comment.
Or the one where Jesus calls Yahweh/ Jehovah , "Evil." after giving the Jews Snakes (Firey Flying Serpents) when they complained for food during the Exodus in the Num.21:5 event, then made them bow down before an image of the beast "serpent on a pole".to be healed. Jesus' answer to that very event is one of his most famous speeches...Matt.7:7, Jesus says not even an "evil earthly father" would give their children snakes when they ask for food. (Kingdom Divided Principle) Jesus was trying to tell us something....That Yahweh is really Satan pretending to be god....Bobby Collier YT channel (Good God) covers all of these contradictions in his "Evil Old Testament God" playlist...some of the best teaching that will prove this. I knew it in my heart he was right after the first video I watched, so I watched all 40+ videos. I couldn't believe how easy it was for me to be deceived so easily with fire from heaven and violent power of death. but the truth was revealed in Christ.
If you owned a business and had 10 kids, would you prefer to divide ownership 10 ways equally no matter each child's interest, or would it please you to give it to the child that cared the most about it and devoted all his effort and time preserving and continuing the family legacy? Would that mean you didn't love your other children if you did that? Why is God wrong to leave it up to each person's free will to discover the truth and mysteries when he freely gives to those who freely seek and freely ask? Jesus says to trust no man and call no one teacher...it's your own fault if you show up to court with a basketball and not a lawyer!
The average person is putting their very own salvation in the hands of another man, Institution, Preacher with a Theology degree, or RUclips channel! Jesus says he will send you his Holy Spirit to teach you! Have you asked him?
Would you also say that Isiah and Jonah are false prophets? They to discribed events that were delayed in respose to repentance. All that was necessary for Christ's return being visible was fulfilled in the days of the apostles. People are still entering in so that day is delayed.
@bing621 Mathew 24:48, 25:5 and 25:19 say the Lord returns after long delays. Prophecy about disturction and blessings are subject to repentance. It is not about false prophets. Look at Jonah he was a ture prophet and the one Jesus said he was most like. He was the most effective prophet he spoke the word of distruction, and they repented. Distruction was delayed. It eventually happened much later. Jeremiah 18:5-10. "Then the word of the LORD came to me: Can I not do with you, O house of Israel, just as this potter has done? says the LORD. Just like the clay in the potter’s hand, so are you in my hand, O house of Israel. At one moment I may declare concerning a nation or a kingdom, that I will pluck up and break down and destroy it, but if that nation, concerning which I have spoken, turns from its evil, I will change my mind about the disaster that I intended to bring on it. And at another moment I may declare concerning a nation or a kingdom that I will build and plant it, but if it does evil in my sight, not listening to my voice, then I will change my mind about the good that I had intended to do to it."
Remember Nineveh repented. Israel/jerusalem did not. They crucified jesus( Jonah). What do you think god would have done to Nineveh if they would have murdered Jonah?🙏❤️
@kristinbingamon568 they were punished, and God in Christ did it. Just like God in Christ led the Babylonians destroyed the first temple. To this day, people are repenting, and the end of this age with the separation and judgment has been delayed.
Also, I’m only hearing one secret verse. I thought this video had multiple secret verses. I would love to debate these as I am an exorcist and without a doubt 110% know Jesus Christ is God. I’m also a Christian universallist. If you’re familiar with that if you’re not, I suggest looking into it. Either way if you would like to discuss or debate, I am always happy to do that. I am always civil. I understand these things can be esoteric in nature and having some of my experiences I have a different perspective than most. Just let me know ~ I’ll be your huckleberry.
Appreciate your comment however, I also know what I’m talking about and I’ve spent countless hours of study and contemplation to come to my understanding. Could you list some specific examples of how a universalist does not understand the fulfillment of prophecy? I think both and you and I would benefit from some friendly discussion.
@@ophiuchus9071 OK, I’m not really concerned with when this takes place only that it takes place and I don’t mean just the reconciliation of men I mean the reconciliation of all of God’s creation, including the angels, the fallen angels, etc. you see God knew to the end which means if he lost any souls, it would be a huge oversight. God’s punishments are corrective in nature meaning he is not going to punish someone who does not have the ability to correct themselves. That would just be torture. We know God is love so it is contrary to how any father would treat his children. Also the word Aeon in Greek was miss translated by William Tisdale for the King James Bible. Originally it meant for a time, Tisdale changed it to mean eternal. This is obviously extremely terrifying to burn in hell forever with no end in sight and then just be exterminated. This was done to control people through fear and give the church. The highest authority have ever heard the term first one in last one out? as a football player, I heard this all the time in regards to or going to the gym. we can deduce that Lucifer was the first created being. he was the most powerful and beautiful angel. That being said it makes sense that he could take on this burden of being Satan. I believe one day he will return to God. He was the first one in hell and will be the last one out hell from my understanding is the state of purgatory where you go to burn off sin most of us need secondary schooling after this school in order to enter God’s holy kingdom. This is also why Jesus said that going straight from this world into heaven is like a camel going through the eye of a needle. You pretty much have to be a saint have some that have done this that didn’t even experience a mortal death. Like I said, I’m not really concerned with how or when God‘s creation returns to him. I’m only concerned that it returns to him many people fear and have a lot of concern for people that have been lost at the time of death. I like to make them aware that they may be in purgatory and depending on what they did, there are levels to purgatory, but purgatory is finite, God would never give any punishment for a finite sin. Let me know your thoughts on this. Appreciate the dialogue here.
@@ophiuchus9071 yes men have the ability to correct themselves. We learn all the time from our mistakes. we are one body of Christ. One. Nothing can ever separate us from God. God would not have created a creature in order to torture him for eternity. Lucifer was good until he became prideful and felt he deserved worship. God knew the beginning to the end, and I assure you he would not have created a being knowing that they were destined to be punished eternally.
Here’s a verse- John 6:66. The people who stop following Jesus after He insists you must eat his flesh or you will not have eternal life. Yeah- that number again. I eat the flesh of Jesus daily. At Mass. I refuse to be in that number- 666. Stick with Apostolic succession.. stick to the Bishops with direct lineages to the first Apostles. The one, true, Holy, Catholic, apostolic Church.
Yeah I do… it starts and ends with Jesus for me though…. He doesn’t need a successor ❤️. What does the Roman Catholic Church teach about Matthew 24:34?
You should also look up Stephen K Ray. Ex Protestant pastor.. a great source for Catholic teachings. Or Jimmy Akin. You’re missing out on some great stuff
You and JTfollowsJC are my favourite post millenials, although slightly different takes. He believes that we are currently in Satan's little season - this is what I believe....we are on the cusp of the most exciting time in history, the New Jerusalem with a physical Jesus reigning on earth.
@@dannorth9125 thank you for the kind words! Although I’m not really a Post millennial and I don’t believe we’re in Satan’s little season and I don’t believe that the new Jerusalem is physical or that Jesus has a physical body but other than that I’m on board with everything you said!😂🙏❤️ but it’s totally OK to disagree. I’m glad that we can have the conversation.🥰
@@kristinbingamon568 Interesting.I assumed preterists were post or amillenials. I was told by a preterist friend that my views were aligned with amillenialism, but I lean towards a millenium that has already occurred, and was covered up by Satan in his short season - which we are in. IMO
Isn’t it possible that Jesus was talking about his resurrection and how he appeared before multitudes of people I mean, this is blatantly obvious for those that have eyes to see. He was literally just talking about how he had to go into town and be killed by the elders the verse before so obviously when he’s talking about his return, he’s talking about the resurrection. Literally two or three verses up he saying he hast to go to Jerusalem and be killed and resurrected so he’s saying there are some of you standing here that will witness this and will see me in my glory. He is not talking about the second coming here. It says that when Jesus died on the cross, “the bodies of many saints who had fallen asleep were raised. And coming forth from their tombs after his resurrection, they entered the holy city and appeared to many” (Mt 27:52-53).
Matt 16:27,28 “For the Son of Man is going to come in the glory of His Father with His angels, and will then repay every man according to his deeds. “Truly I say to you, there are some of those who are standing here who will not taste death until they see the Son of Man coming in His kingdom.”” Matthew 16:27-28 Is it your belief that Jesus returned in the glory of the father with his angels and repaid every man according to their deeds at his resurrection?
@@bing621 did the passage state that when he came, he would repay everyone according to their deeds or did he just say you will see me coming with the glory of my kingdom? He did not say those who were present would be judged. He merely said they would see him in his kingdom. He was referring to the future when he said I will repay everyone, according to their deeds but he was referring to the very very near future when he said you will see me in my glory with my kingdom before you taste death. “The tombs also were opened. And many bodies of the saints who had fallen asleep were raised, and coming out of the tombs after his resurrection they went into the holy city and appeared to many. (Matt. 27:52-53) He is providing proof that the latter will happen by way of the very near event that everyone will see him in his glory. when Jesus reappeared to the multitudes, it wasn’t just him. I’m sure there were angels present. There was trumpet sounding there was the glory of the father with him. He saying y’all will see this in your lifetime. In the versus prior, he was not talking only about the second coming. He was also talking about the resurrection just a few verses prior he was describing what would happen to him in Jerusalem and his resurrection as well so it’s very possible that he was speaking about the resurrection when they would see him again before they tasted death. That verse when he says y’all will see me again he does not say and you will be judged
@@joelharvey579 in Matt 16:27 the word MELLO translated “going to” should actually say “about to”. Look up the definition and usage of mello throughout the New Testament to understand that it is properly translated about to.
Hello, I would just like to say that I think that you have a lot in common with Jason Jack on RUclips. If you look him up, then maybe both you and he, can find more answers and support to some puzzling questions. I also think that he would benefit from listening to you as well. May God bless you and and add to your wisdom and understanding of the Word of God ( KING JAMES BIBLE).
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Preterism has tremendous explanatory power. Ultimately, when you understand that Israelis are not Israelites, that they are not Hebrews or of the tribe of Judah, you will begin to understand everything.
Sorry Preterism is false doctrine.
Your's may be the most nonsensical comment upon any subject, in any context I have encountered. I don't intend discourtesy, but your comment is at least offensive to me, a Jewish follower of Jehoshua. Clarity, please. Pastor Greg
@@gregparis8948 History should explain it rather handily. Jews are extinct. Plain and simple. Just like many people groups in history.
When their temple burned down, they lost their religion. With the temple went their Law, their prophets, their genealogy, the elements, the government, the economy, the very way of life of these tribal people. Their entire culture went up in smoke. The age ended, as many in that last generation of these temple people had been expecting, according to the gospels, Acts, and epistles.
And the Jewish-Roman Wars weren’t over yet. Not for more than another six decades after the Great Revolt. After the bar Kokhba Revolt in the 130s, Judea lost the last vestiges of its identity. The country had been renamed Assyria-Palestina, and Jews were killed off, all but eliminated in the region.
Whatever connection present-day Talmudic Jews may claim to the diaspora, whose heritage had been diluted through centuries of migration and intermarriage, they are not connected to Shem or Jacob. No one today carries any of that DNA. Whatever Jews you may know - Hasidic, Sephardic, Ashkenazi, whatever - they are not Semitic.
So, let not your heart be troubled. Your people are not the people of the Bible. Your people are not the idolaters, warmongers, and evildoers whose failure of worship and corruption of Moses would result in their last days, foretold as far back as Moses himself. You have no reason to be offended.
Keep going girl.
I do not have enough suscribers to start making the videos.
But I'm a Full Preterist with all my heart.
@@migjosh11 hey! Where r u located! Looks like you might be near me!!??
@kristinbingamon568 Sister. I live in South Bend IN.
@ We are just south of Fort Wayne 🥰
@@kristinbingamon568 What a grey thing to be almost neighbors.
Thanks for sharing the details of FP. Or Fulfillment Eschatology.
Hebrews 4:12-13 God gives us understanding as he sees fit and whether he shows me a little or a lot.... praise his name. Trust Jesus.
@@danny-yy9fv the New Testament scriptures are here for everyone to see (understand) Preterism if they will quit believing the futurist teachings on them which is mankind’s teaching on them and start believing God’s teaching on them which is preterist teaching on them
Love your videos! New subscriber here. So thankful the Lord opened my eyes to the TRUTH!! 💖
@@LionessofTruth17 wonderful! I’m happy for you! Thanks for subscribing!
You're so right. In all my years, going to various churches, they would NEVER talk about that.
Like so many shame words that get tossed around when you challenge a doctrine or wont get in line, Preterist is one of the most disingenuous of them all. Since I accepted the obvious truth that JESUS was telling the truth and that he meant exactly what he said, I also began to wonder why the churches steer clear from that. I came to a conclusion that was based on the backlash I got when I would bring it up. They keep their congregations united through FEAR. They justify this through a collection of false beliefs (the chosen people) and false teachings, a stronghold that is chained by pride and fear. The pride comes out the second that you tell them it already happened, they immediately balk at you, not loving, not in a noble way but in a fierce rebuke. If they do manage to stay calm, they descend into a foggy world of dual meanings, rearranging time to mean other things, crazy 'theories'...anything to keep from believing the LORD. I think they're terrified of the implication, what it would mean if they suddenly began telling the truth. They'd get back lash, scorned, painted with the words they once used against others.
John MacArthur can't get though a single sermon with out mentioning the 'soon to come bodily return of JESUS CHRIST'. It's one of the saddest things I see today and I think it all plays into the hands of some VERY evil people and 'spiritual wickedness in heavenly places' or "aliens" which are demons.
@@TheCountofToulouse very well said! Thank you for your comments. Fear is a very powerful manipulator. But I also try to have Grace for people that really have trouble accepting this version of things because it is a total paradigm shift. I think when we are confronted with something that is just completely the opposite of what we’ve always believed the initial reaction is to lash out, but maybe as things sink in overtime they will be able to think about it with less fear and anger. I mean, I didn’t accept this overnight!🙏❤️
@@kristinbingamon568 Enoch.
@@scalefingerz are you talking about the book of Enoch? Have you read it?
I listened to a young lady that was adopted into a satanic family and was raped and satanically abused all her life. She came to Christ and was able to escape. She said John McArthur is definitely not who you think he is? I can’t tell you what that means but it doesn’t sound good.
@@kristinbingamon568 I know it. Spiritual osmosis.
Former pastor here... I began deconstructing because of these verses. Now I'm a heretic, too 🤘😁🤘. Welcome!
When you start using human reasoning... nothing of bible will be left.
You should ask the holy spirit for understanding. I did ... got great anwsers.
You are indeed an example of how one can lose his salvation. Shame. At least your not corrupting any more minds with your lack of Knowledge.
So are you still a believer or are you agnostic not
Now
@@BeleeuerThrough a decade-long process of reexamining what I've been taught vs. what I actually believe, I've given myself permission to be OK with being an agnostic. I can no longer reconcile Evangelical Christianity with what I read in and how I interpret the bible. So here's my timeline: Youth group kid, Christian college, ordination, pastor, partial preterist, full preterist, agnostic.
Jesus is THE Truth!
The Word of God (every Word) is important.......Amen. Thanks.
You are right about that someone who was brought up in the church has a harder time believing that Jesus already returned in that generation. I wasn’t brought up in the church. I am a new Christian . I learned this about a year ago and believed it right away. Also when I mentioned this about Jesus returning in that generation to a fellow Christian leader at my church their first response well… it’s not a salvation issue!! I laughed out loud when you said that because that the go to line.
@@reneesuter7884 Awww that’s really neat to hear that it was easier for you without all the years of programming! I’m happy that you found Jesus and kept Jesus🙏❤️
Amen sister. I have believed what you said for several years. Believe what you read NOT read what you believe. God bless ❤
@@AnnePoulsom good one!❤️🙏
I'm glad to see another preterist out there. Keep it up.
On point n!!! Thank you for addressing this topic!!! Absolutely PRECIOUS !!! AMEN HALLELUJAH 🙏 !! WE WILL GO THROUGH THE TRIBULATION !!!
@@frederickflagg well thank you but I think you might be a little confused with what I’m saying. I think the tribulation was 2000 years ago.😂🙏❤️
@kristinbingamon568 I am not confused !!! Absolutely not !;! You are though !!; we are in it now !;! Then the great tribulation is coming !!!
All generations go through a tribulation !!!
Thanks, for this video , we have followed along that path of growing , thru all of the futurist thinking and come to the same conclusion! Many years of reading our Bible, but not thinking (I guess) because it is now very shocking to realize what is truly being said! We must read it over and pray for understanding...we realize we are all growing at a different pace, love to all! 🥰🙏🙏🙏
As a successful 501c3 corporation, we find it better to avoid those contentious verses that might cause our pew-sitters to go down various rabbit holes and/or question our fundamentals of the faith. Nor do we want our flow of tithes to be disturbed...
@@fredisfast ha! Yes some churches are like that. Although not all of them. Some are just confused and scared.🙏❤️
ThkQ so much I'm a full preteris and loving ❤️ it now that I understand it wow, you are awesome 👌 👏 👍 😍 💖 ❤️
Very few churches even talk about the Kingdom of God. Apparently the great commission is to get everyone saved so we can be whisked away to heaven so we can avoid the Kindom on earth
Greetings,
Yes and Amen....
Fundamentally and in every other way, Jesus entire ministry was about the Kingdom of God and revealing God the Father to mankind - for the first time.
Frankly, I believe salvation is not understood just as sanctification is not understood.
John the Gospel writer declares that one born from above CANNOT sin....
To understand what this means is to truly receive revelation of the Kingdom....from the Holy Spirit
Love and blessings to you my friend....
❤🫂❤
John 3:8
Matthew 20:20-28
There is no great commission, But there IS the ministry of reconciliation, which is given unto the body of CHRIST. Commission occurs 1 time in the new testament, and it was given unto Saul to go persecute Jesus believing Jews everywhere. Thank GOD he met him in the way and used him to give us the ministry of reconciliation. Jesus gave his 12 Apostles instructions to go everywhere beginning at Jerusalem. Why was Peter and John still in Jerusalem 21 years after Jesus gave them this supposed great commission?
Few churches? Where is your data to prove this? How many churches have you visited? Where is your data?
@@danielvargas9100
Greetings Daniel,
Having grown up in Australia in a greek household [greek immigrant parents] who were devout "church goers" therefore as a kid so was I.
Then married a "catholic" so had that experience for a while.
Then came into the "evangelical" community after we enrolled our kids into a "christian school" - not necessarily for the "christian" bit but rather they offered primary and secondary on one campus and that appealed....
Anyway I digress.
My entire experience of "institutional chruch" [not a slur - a subjective description/distinction] does not interpret the New Testament through the lens of the proclamation of the Kingdom in a way that many might grasp the significant distinction between the OT and the NT - especially when you consider that Jesus entire "teaching part" of His ministry was about the Kingdom of God.
Speaking always into groups of people who "believed" in God, yet Jesus declared "Repent and Believe".
I believe it is important to pause and ask why Jesus would tell people who claimed they believed in God, who went to synagogue weekly to receive teaching from the religious leaders [Pharisees and Scribes], who went to the temple daily to pray......to repent and BELIEVE.
I believe very simply - because they knew NOT who God is.
Hence Jesus, the light of the world giving sight to the blind, hearing to the deaf, liberty to the captives and raising the dead to life.
It is ALL SPIRITUAL - therefore the natural must die.
That's why the natural must comes first, but that which is last.....lasts forever because it was always before the first and formed it.
Love and blessings.
❤🫂❤
@@danielvargas9100 I’ve been researching this topic for over 5 years, and attending evangelical churches across the country for 49 years. I can’t even find a seminary course on this topic. It is occasionally brought up, but it is a central theme of Christ ministry.
Also thanks for saying new believers need Preterism too & to hear about it as everyone in the world needs to know & believe Preterism for sure…
That means no rapture, no tribulation, only Satans little season and we overcome him with the words of our testimony
@@paulwise6856 or here’s another option, no Satan‘s little season either because everything has been fulfilled. Meaning that the evil we see in the world is not the result of Satan but the result of ourselves. “Satan “means the adversary. It is sometimes personified in the Bible, but remember that James said “each person is tempted when he is Lord and enticed by his own desires.“ Meaning there isn’t a bogeyman going around tempting us. Even if there was a “Satan“ he is not omnipresent like God he could only be in one place at a time, tempting one person at a time so I think we end up giving him way too much credit!❤️🙏
"Some of you won't die until you see me coming in my kingdom", Is answered in The next verse. Matt 17. "and after six days, Jesus took Peter, James, and John up on a high mountain apart.." If you will see that Jesus gave them a glimpse of his coming, saying he was "transfigured". These three saw him futuristicly returning. If that is too vague for you, remember John later saw all this from a heavenly perspective in writing the Revelation of Jesus Christ before he died. I hope this helps if you want to "see".
Do you believe Jesus repaid everyone according to their deeds at the transfiguration??
“For the Son of Man is (about to) Mello -3195 come in the glory of His Father with His angels, and will then repay every man according to his deeds. “Truly I say to you, there are some of those who are standing here who will not taste death until they see the Son of Man coming in His kingdom.””
Matthew 16:27-28
Do you really believe he has already returned and fought against those that came and surrounded Israel as he mentions he will do when he returns? (Zech 14). You haven't seen anything yet. Prophesy left to fulfill..world wide.
@@michaellenard5911 That is what the Bible teaches
Then Can I assume you also believe what "the heretic chick says about the "known world" and not the actual Whole world? Then I guess you believe Noah's flood only destroyed the known world and not the actual full world which is what is written. As it was in the days of Noah, so shall it be at the coming of the Lord.
Hey. glad to have found you!
@@TerryTiessen Hey! Me too!❤️
When Jesus says this generation will not taste death He is talking about the generation in the future that witnesses all those events will not taste death.
@@Sidney051 that interpretation is creative, but it is forcing something into the next that isn’t there just because it doesn’t match our expectations. If Jesus would have said that “ this generation “ or “ some standing here” won’t die until he was crucified, no one would be debating what “ this generation “ means. I always think about how I would feel if some other religion used that reasoning for why their prophet didn’t follow through as promised. I would say,” clearly your prophet is false and you are making excuses for him.” That’s how I see it anyway❤️🙏
@ So do you doubt Jesus?
@ no I absolutely don’t doubt him. I believe that he did exactly what he said he would do exactly when he said he would do it. But I also am aware that atheist see it a different way and I would think the same thing of Mohammed if he said he was coming back” this generation“ and didn’t do it.I think it’s not Jesus that was wrong. It is our expectations that were wrong because we don’t understand Hebraic apocalyptic language. If you check out my video “Glenn Beck and CS Lewis versus Jesus” I think it would explain a lot.
@ Ok. Cool. I will do that. You’re an outside the box thinker. That’s a gift.
@ awww thank you! I hope you find something helpful or at least interesting on my Chanel❤️🙏
I stopped after the first one.
Matt 16:28 doesn't mean what you are implying.
It is not a "gotcha" verse, because there are no "gotcha" verses.
Work on your own salvation, and not dismantling others'.
@@my1vice Thanks for commenting! If you watch a little farther you will hear of a lot of people who had their faith dismantled from that verse. I just think there is a better explanation 🙏❤️
I believe Jesus fulfilled the Law and the Prophets , All Prophecy is fulfilled in Him :) Bless you Sis :)
@@SonicGrace Amen!🙏❤️
What are your thoughts on Rev 20 after the 1000 year reign?
@@5022freedom I believe that is all in the past, but I understand that other people see it differently 🙏
"Those who peirced me will se my return "
We don’t talk about holiness, modesty or vanity.
I Love your videos, just subbed to your channel because some how I was unsubbed.
@@A2J_Tim I’m happy you are getting something out of them!❤️🙏
I've just looked up "heretic" and "heresy" in the Merriam-Webster online dictionary, and, guess what: You are right!
> "Heresy": ... from haireîn "to take, grasp, (middle voice) obtain, choose, prefer"
Well done. Please don't stop sharing your thoughts, as our puzzles will come together. That is what I believe. ❤😂
When you put the Nobleman who went on a Long Journey parable ( in Luke 19) together with the Vineyard Owner whose Son the renters Killed parable, ... and ADD them with what the Septuagint says that the Messiah would do ( with the army of a coming prince ) to the City of Jerusalem AND it's temple. And that is Exactly what God allowed and even Ordained to take Place... just like Jesus said 34 years before the siege began. Dan 9:26 - 27 ie He ( messiah who was just cut off ) will DESTROY the City and the sanctuary --- or temple -- with the people of a coming prince" is what it says.
@@earthage3020 yes finally the parables make sense!!🙏❤️🥳
Christians need to be prepared for tricky verses like those. Thank you
Yeah they always skip those ones
Nowhere in the new testament are we commanded to build alters or church buildings. I find that most people don't know how to rightly divide the word.
Indeed, it’s between prophecy and mystery, and Paul is still a mystery to them.
@timoromeo7663 I was guilty of mixing law with grace and having neither. Not that I see my error, I can spot it in others. It all started when I asked too many questions of a pentecostal church. They shunned me and I thought I was just having a deep Bible study. He said I couldn't have been baptized in the Holy Spirit because I didn't speak in tongues. I researched the history of pentecostalism and that lead to rightly dividing. I was always wondering where I was in the Bible and where we are in biblical history or prophecy. Two verses stand out to me know, Never mix law with grace or you will have neither. And, some believe themselves to be Jews but are not. I see now that Acts of the Apostles is a transitional book going from law to grace. Some books in the new testament are describing what happened in the old testament under the law. I'm trying to witness but I can't keep up with all the responses. I feel like maybe I should be quiet. Needless to say God showed me some truth about that church. He knew I was thinking of going there and was one step ahead of me.
@@rickcampanella4254 Amen Brother, I grew up with a stepfather who was a pastor of a full gospel mission in Denver, and a father who was apostolic. Both are pentecostal. Since I was eight years old I could see there was a problem between Peter and Paul. There's even a Peter Paul candy company out today. Anyway, I went out into the world and said to my dad who was a backsliding, alchoholic who was always quoting the bible and always had his bibles all marked up, that when I came to the LORD that I wanted it to be for the rest of my life, which it is now. I had to get into the word MYSELF and got all gusto for bible study and people didn't have the answers to my questions. Including pastors of which the latest one I told that I was under the law of faith, and he said that wasn't a thing. I was lucky I had my cruden's concordance with me and told him it was Romans 3:27. I haven't been back there since. It's an AG church here in a small town. I don't have much fellowship out here. So I spent hours upon hours studying my KJV and everything I could about manuscript evidence and other things that I feel need to be taught in church other than OLD TESTAMENT which includes mostly all of Matt.-John. I tell anyone where the Gospel is and then what happens when you hear the good news. Here it is..1 Cor.15:14 Good News and Eph.1:10-14
When you believe the Good news of your salvation, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures, And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures: we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins, according to the riches of his grace; YOU WERE SEALED with that Holy Spirit of promise, Which is the EARNEST of our inheritance UNTIL the redemption of the purchased possession, unto the praise of his glory. Wherefore comfort one another with these words. - The Apostle Paul, the apostle of the gentiles. The greatest Apostle.
With Love in Christ...Amen
Awesome Awesome mind blowing truth revealed here today just for you to know
Well that might be an overstatement but thanks!🙏❤️
I agree with you 100% in that new believers need to hear the truth about Jesus coming back in the first century and fulfilling to perfection every word he said about his second coming. Anyone who says that this generation in Matthew 24:34 doesn't mean the generation that jesus was speaking to is definitely not being true to the text.
This videos are awesome 👍
Keep on spreading the truth 👊
1 Thessalonians 5. 4 thru 8. We're not children of nite. We're children of day that the day of the Lord won't be as a thief in the nite. Praise God. Thanku.
I like Mike Winger too but he is associated with Calvary Chapel which is vert dispensational. They hold the modern state of Israel in high esteem which is a major error. Their eschatology is Darby/Schofield based which is futurism.
I just don’t get it…. And I was raised in it! But it seems so silly now🤪🙏❤️
So are you still a Jesus believer?
I took a short video clip of John MacArthur saying that we "have to modify" Jesus's words in Matthew 24:34 to mean all future generations.😢
You know what revelation 22 says about “modifying” the words of the text! They better be careful.
He said that? I will check it out
Do a video on the word “mello” in the NT text. How unless you use YLT, you will not get “about to be”, in hundreds of eschatological texts. That’s a great “secrets”, shhhhh, no one told you and you won’t get from the pulpit. Try that one, it may take a week of studying but there are hundreds of verses that omit “mello”. About to be. As in… oh what a concept..that generation. It’s jaw dropping! 😮
Great Idea!!
Based upon a number of the comments from what are apparently clear non-Christians an immediate verse springs to mind.
Proverbs 12:15
"The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that hearkeneth unto counsel is wise.".
Being a Christian believer, you don't die, spiritually, Jesus would say sleeping, yes your body goes back to the earth, but believers in heaven are more alive than us here on earth.
@@garydale8874 tru dat!❤️🙏
thank you, this was very good.
Your right on. I'm a lover of truth God has had his hand on me. We r children of light. . We're not of the dark. We see what others don't.
This is the thing that baffles me. Futurists say preterism is heresy and does not even deserve a seat at he table of eschatological views. But we are taking the Bible at face value. The NT says often that they were in the last days in the first century and that the end would come in their generation. The book ends with a letter to the seven churches of Asia Minor in the first century and says to them Jesus is coming soon. Our take is literally the most accurate and faithful to the text.
@@MaxInAus I hear ya! You are singing my song😂🙏❤️ sometimes it can be really frustrating, and other times it just makes me roll my eyes and laugh.😩😂
Why do we even want a seat at the table?
@@gustingdis there is a table I plan to sit at but it’s not of this world if you know what I mean😉
Cool pad btw
To tell the truth i just used to go along with the explanation a pastor or teacher would give/ but like you l started asking Questions. The main thing that got me was when I read The revelation of Christ the future didn't make since when I read the book of Hebrews/ but since listen tou you and others/ you give good reference s/ now everything makes since. But now that I'm unlearning the Bible I go through a lot of uncertainty but I can give my faith up. Christ is King/ he's ruling from heaven, at least that's where I'm at right now
Love your honesty but maybe you could explain what our hope is a little
@@paulkirby7794 First we can trust God because it is so amazing how he fulfilled everything just as he said he would❤️. Our hope is the new covenant, written on our hearts. It is that we are perfected through Christ and are no longer separated from God. The tribulation was in the past. When we die, we leave our bodies and continue to be with God but I think that will be a totally unimaginable experience so I can’t speculate. But I don’t believe it involves my physical body, just like Jesus didn’t have a physical body before he came to earth and just like God is spirit. So it’s much the same as the mainstream thought minus the apocalypse and rapture and waiting around for a body. I still call it heaven. Is that what you are asking?
@paulkirby7794 Yes, he is ruling from Heaven!...his Kingdom is the Spiritual Kingdom! Nothing happens in our physical world that's not moved or directed by Powers and Principalities in the Spiritual world first. You're not "unlearning the Bible." The Pharisees knew ALL the Scriptures, but Jesus called them deaf and blind. God is giving you eyes to see and ears to hear! We physically live in a world ruled by "governments" (control minds) through witchcraft and sorcery, the very reason the meaning of our words are called "definitions" (deaf Phonecians), and "spelling" these words cast curses and/or blessings! We underestimate the power of our words and the spiritual implications they "possess ."
Found you about a month ago, valuable teachings, I was 667, I notice such things, headed to 777 I recall, working on attention span
Yeah, I think I misspoke in my video. I don’t even have 777 subscribers yet. I think I had 777 views on a video one day and that is what I was thinking of. Anyway, I’m glad you stumbled across my channel and I hope you find something helpful! Thanks!🙏❤️
Study with the Shepherd's chapel and you'll understand all those scriptures very easily and very very good
@@jamesmoore2143 very “well”🙏❤️
The comments cited here reflect the total confusion on the subject. It would help if there was clear teaching in the church.
I believe the Word is dual or double prophecy! Such as "The End"... in Matthew 24 was about the coming destruction of Jerusalem AND for the End of Times! The Exodus of the Israelites was not only about being freed from slavery of Egypt and journeying to the Promised Land, BUT also refers to Us fleeing "Babylon" and going into the wilderness to be refined and become Brides of Christ into the New Jerusalem! Yehovah is Awesome! 😊
Boy, it's not easy keeping secrets when folks keep letting the cat out of the bag.
@@deanfloyd8931 oops!!🤭
@@kristinbingamon568 Thanks for sharing your thoughts, this morning on my walk, the Jehovah's witnesses were out and about. I always enjoy chatting with them, sharing concepts they've never heard before is a whole lotta fun.
the amplified has a good understanding on this verse
Matt 24:34 Amp
Amplified Bible
I assure you and most solemnly say to you, this generation [the people living when these signs and events begin] will not pass away until all these things take place.
its a parable about the generation at the 2nd coming not them present at that time !
@@wolfwatchers if Jesus had wanted to say that he meant the generation he was talking to was who he was talking to how else could he have said it? I find it interesting that in chapter 23 everyone accepts that he means the generation 2000 years ago. It’s only when it doesn’t match our preconceived beliefs that we try to change the meaning. There is a different Greek word if he wanted to say ,”that” generation 2000 in the future😉🙏❤️
There were no chapters or verses originally that’s part of the reason there’s so much confusion today.
@@kristinbingamon568 we must take the whole page into context, first off its in a parable, parables are never literal ! the wheat and tares is not about farming wheat , the whole context of the parable is being ready at all times , you must at least agree you are taking this parable literal! also all of believing Israel, before the body of christ were promised resurrection at the second coming where they will see all these things the lord described in the verses before and after the parable! none of them die they have been given eternal life upon their repentance and water baptism, you consider them dying but Christ considers them alive eternally !
John 3:16
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him👉 should not perish, but have everlasting life.
@@kristinbingamon568 he is talking to them back then, not us but what you're failing to take into account is they will never die !
matt 24 :34 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass.
they are eternal it does not mean all these things happened back then its they will never pass! and they will witness the coming of the son of man ! they are resurrected gathered from the 4 corners and witness all these things
John 3:16
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
Gods looking at them as eternal not dying like we tend to look at it as
*sigh* If Jesus was a false prophet, then why would we think we should believe him about anything else? If I held that view and was a preacher I could just pick and choose what Jesus said to suit what I wanted it to be. What is desperately needed is "The Story of Jesus" that includes his spiritual return in 70AD with the obliteration of Jerusalem. There were people who witnessed this. There is the writing of Josephus that describes in great detail the destruction of Jerusalem. There really were miraculous occurrences at that time that Christians witnessed as did the Jews. The truth is so much more valuable, not to mention interesting, than a tale in which Jesus didn't really know what he was saying, or that he didn't mean it the way he said it. Anyway, great lesson. Keep them coming!
So true, thank you!
Love it! Keep up the great work, sister. Jesus was not a false prophet. God bless!
I heard the fly in stereo 😂
@16:04 you can hear the fly she was talking about. Lol. Yep.
@@evrytribe it’s so embarrassing! There are always flies… I think it’s because we have horses. I’m really not that filthy of a person and there aren’t decomposing corpses lying around my house.😂🙏❤️
I think the recording was very impressive… in stereo 😊. Ps. I enjoy commentary, thank you.
There's no "secret hidden" verses. No one is hiding anything. In your ego you think you've discovered something and that it's unanswered. You can find tons of literature written on these verses for the last 2,000 years.
Maybe you wouldn’t mind posting some commentary on Matt 16:27,28 and Matt 24:34. Luke 21:31-33.
@ Shane_ Maybe you are the one with the ego problem. The early church knew these predictions by Jesus to be true and fulfilled. Daniel chapter 9 verses 25-27 were fulfilled from AD 31 to AD 70. The sister speaking here is not a scholar. If you want to educate yourself on these issues I strongly recommend Bruce Gore here on RUclips. He is one of the top Christian scholars and Bible teachers alive today. Until you get a grip on this you will continue to be a toddler in the Word.
@@charlesmorse386 it is not necessary that no man teach you, but the holy spirit. Why did God tell daniel shut up the book, for it was not for him to know? Your stuck in the Old Testament as well.
@@bing621the very next event after Matthew 16-28 they watched Jesus transform into his spiritual body. Remember Jesus says my kingdom is not of this world. Spiritual. Ask me more
@@autobri1 Are you saying that you believe Jesus “returned in the glory of the father with his angels, and repaid everyone according to their deeds” at the transfiguration?
The word used for generation
γενεά - genea
can mean:
birth
race, descent
generation
offspring
Now try inserting race into the passage you are referring to and read the whole chapter(also the chapter before and after it) with that in mind.
God bless you!
@@ophiuchus9071
Okay, so you have to throw the Bible away, because it prophesied the recreation of Israel which happened in 1949.
Israel is a country today.
People tried to kill Israel over the last 4000 years but they didn't succeed.
Good luck justifying your ignorance before God.
@@theprogrammer8200geographical ”Israel” today has nothing to do with the Bible times.
Wow, I used to think that way but I kept praying and ask the spirit for truth. Most things have dual and sometimes 3 fulfillments. First is physical and then spiritual. Remember the first Temple was a tent covered with animal skin and it moved around the second and Third was a stone temple. Now there is a Spiritual Temple. It all comes back around Paul said “don’t you know that you are the Temple of God” We are a mobile temple covered with skin with Jesus Christ as the head. The Bible says the physical body must die for the spiritual to live. In Matthew 24 it has a dual fulfillment also, the ones that believed Jesus when they seen the army surround
Jerusalem left the city and were saved from destruction. The second part of the prophecy has been happening since 1948 and this is the generation that will see that destruction again. And right now the abomination of desolation is standing in the holy place but most Christian’s are worshiping the beast that had a wound in 70 AD and yet lived. This is for those with eyes to see and ears to hear. May God Show you truth. There is so much
You said you believe in multiple fulfillment, do you think Jesus is going to be crucified again?
No. The Bible says once and for all
@@bing621your wife is right those things were fulfilled in Jesus time. The Bible is full of types and shadows for instance, Hebrew slaves in Egypt are a foreshadow of believers (Christians) Egypt is the world Moses is a type of Christ. And from this we see them going through the water or baptism. They follow the law and are brought to the promised land. ie heaven
What is your point ? If you need answer ask your husband .. don't try to be suspicious about verses .. if we have correct understandings off all scriptures then we don't need anything more at all ..
I have heard different opinions on the verse "There are some here who will not taste death until ......". Some say the Transfiguration, some say the Resurrection, some say the Rapture/ 2nd Coming.
I heard more preaching on these topics back in the 80s when I was growing up, than I hear today in the Church.
Another opinion I heard on that matter about the "This generation shall not pass away...." Was people born in 1948. I heard that back in the 80s. So the lead baby boomer who are now in their mid 70s won't completely die off. I guess they got another 20 years left, maybe 25 if they're real lucky LOL. Maybe a few record breakers, 30.....
Stars,moon fallen is not only about judgment. God revealed Himself only to that 1 specific nation . He said ´´If you hear my voice,you shall be my kingdom of priests´´ In NT language ``If you hear what the Spirit say ``
They had a opportunity to learn from God and bring rest of the nations to Him. The whole picture is very easy to understand..Sun will be darkened Stars,moon,are seen only in the night. / They were only nation that had knowledge of true God..Rest lived in darkens..So sun that gave them light will stop to give,and they will fall into darkness to... Change of priesthood. Change of Covenant
2Co 3:7 But if the ministry of death, written and engraved on stones, was glorious, so that the children of Israel could not look steadily at the face of Moses because of the glory of his countenance, which glory was passing away,
End of that old ,beginning of
2Co 3: 8 how will the ministry of the Spirit not be more glorious?
2Co 3: 11 For if what is passing away was glorious, what remains is much more glorious.
@@danielbelteshazzar-mg7rb well said! Thank you🙏❤️
How can the carnal mind comprehend its own carnality?
John saw the son of man coming in his kingdom, in a vision, which he wrote down in the book of Revelation. Perhaps that's who Jesus was talking about. Blessed are those who believe without seeing. But hey, I should have been warned by the name of the channel. Who comes out and calls themself a heretic? Normally that's a label used by the orthodox to warn people to steer clear. Very curious how someone can be proud of their false teaching.
@@aftonline Jesus said,” for the son of man is ABOUT ( look up Greek) to come with his angels in the glory of his father. Then he will repay each person according to what he has done. Matthew 16:27
The only reason to say this is just referring to a vision and not the real deal is because it doesn’t align with what you have been taught. There is nothing in scripture to suggest that. I understand your position but I think we should be allowed to ask questions and let the Bible take the lead.🙏❤️.
I can’t understand why people don’t read the Bible themselves rather than being told what it says. Jesus stated clearly that he was talking to his disciples, how much more obvious can it be?
Unorthodox, Non conformist, yep, me too. Amazing you and your husband only 2 who noticed pastor skipping over that verse.
There are plenty of other verses that the modern church doesn’t like. So they either skip over them or they do a false explanation and twist the verse to the narrative.
Daniel 11
45 And *_he shall plant the tabernacles of his palace between the seas in the glorious holy mountain;_* yet he shall come to his end, and none shall help him.
Ezekiel 9
4 And the Lord said unto him, Go through the midst of the city, through the midst of Jerusalem, and set a mark upon the foreheads of the men that sigh and that cry *for* all the abominations that be done in the midst thereof.
This verse explains the Mark of the Beast, but the Church claims it’s the mark Of God. But if you read the entire chapter, everything lines up with Revelation 13 and the Mark Of The Beast. In the verse, “for” means “not against” or “in favor of”. They were performing false worship, then God’s men were told not to harm the ones with the mark, but to go kill the innocents.
Matthew 27
52 And the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints which slept arose,
53 And came out of the graves after his resurrection, and went into the holy city, and appeared unto many.
The church doesn’t like these verses because it provides evidence of the resurrection of the Saints in Revelation 20 as a past event.
@@michaelseay9783 The resurrection has been ongoing for 2000 years now and will continue until the last believer rhymes with ties in the seconds before Jesus returns at the end of the 7 years of Jacob’s Trouble. This is perfectly in accordance with 1 COR 15. The resurrection of Revelation 20 is not a one-time event just before His return. The First Resurrection is a title of a category.
@ there is no 7 year Tribulation. It was 3 1/2 years, which was the war of 66 to 70 AD (Rev 11:2), then the 6th seal was opened: The Great Tribulation, which was 45 days (Daniel 12:11-12).
@@michaelseay9783 Wow! I completely disagree with all of that! I was just explaining the resurrection.
So, I watched waiting for the "punch line" but you never spoke of it.
What event marked Christ's return in judgment? The Jewish war was about AD 67 to 74 with the fall of Jerusalem occurring about half way through.
Match this up with Hebrews 8:13 and the "end of the world" comes into focus.
Can there be any doubt that we are part of the Kingdom of God right this very moment? That this kingdom was established during the days of the Roman kings as prophecied in Daniel 2?
This truth does not sell books and movies, though, does it?
Amen!
Parables and the codex is the galaxy. An astronomer will be able to understand the parables.
😊Jesus was talking about the law being fulfilled in this generation
@@TimmieBurkett why do you think that?🙏❤️
@kristinbingamon568 matt 5 18
@Hereticchickchat
👊😇Love your eschatology take & high IQ!!
Another one I never heard anybody preach about is:
Rev. 11:14 The second woe "has passed", the third woe is coming soon.
Wait WHAT?? Lol
Also I discovered something called the Clement Homily Books, that were held aside & privately dispersed in the early church years.
Internal evidence suggests they were originally written very early as Peter was still eating separately and hadn't been admonished by Paul.
These explain Parables, Eschatology, free will,The Giants, plus several debates with Apostle Peter VS Simon Mangus.
This literally filled in all the cracks of the Bible we had ever wondered about.
Anyhow, I started a channel to post free audio Books of "forgotten church history, I would love your input on these Clement homily books as they're very deep & your brilliant!!
God bless you & yours 🤗
@@4kBible sounds very interesting. I will check it out! I think brilliant is a wee bit of an overstatement, but I appreciate the kind words.😅😂🙏❤️ PS I never thought about the second woe being passed and the third woe coming soon as the way I think you are suggesting it. So I will definitely have to think about that! Maybe I had a little bit of futurism still stuck in my brain that you just helped loosen up for me🥰. I think what I am rambling about is that I thought it meant in the vision the second woe had passed, but what you are suggesting is that the second woe had already passed when John wrote the book of Revelation? Or maybe I’m misunderstanding.
Revelation is "earlier"...
Same chapter Rev 11 John measured "The Temple", lol "that Temple" that was presently "still standing", provided measurements and all.
Obviously John didn't measure a future temple in the vision.😅
@@kristinbingamon568
Wise, unapologetically honest AND more brilliant then all the male preachers telling us to get ready for a rapture!🤩
@@4kBible The 3 woes are described in REV 8:13. They are commensurate with the remaining 3 trumpet judgements: Trumpet 5,6,7. REV 9:12 says that woe 1 is concluded after trumpet 5 is blown. Then trumpet 6 is blown and 11:14 says woe 2 is concluded. Trumpet 7 is blown and it contains woe 3.
@@mstru79 Read REV 11:1 carefully. There is measuring going on of not just “the temple”. The PEOPLE are being measured here as well and at the same time. Clearly the measuring that is going on here is not one of physical dimensionality. This is a spiritual measuring or analysis going on here that the angel wants John to undertake. In other words the angel wants John to take note of the spiritual condition at the time he views it.
Yeah, Revelation 11:1 and following is pretty hard to set into some future temple time. It’s obviously the same temple Jesus pointed at. The mental massage and gymnastics required to shoehorn that into ones own conception of what they NEED it to mean is just the most disturbing part of futuristic fallacies. My humble opinion… for whatever that’s worth. I just can’t make any of it fit my old paradigm anymore, like none of it!! 😅
@@fishingisfun8841 But it’s so freeing!🙏❤️
@@kristinbingamon568 Yes! That is one of the things I tell people when/if they will listen. But alas….(big sigh).. the PSYOP runs deep. 😅
@@kristinbingamon568I also have to say it is so nice to be able to actually get some interaction and replies to comments. Being able to talk to other like minded people is very uplifting, so thank you for that as well 😁
@@fishingisfun8841 your welcome! Preterism can be a lonely road for sure so I love getting a chance to talk to people🙏❤️. I hate making videos but I love the chatting in the comment section😂
It is not hard to find heresy in the churches today. The world is upside down, not the Kingdom of God. In the Hebrew and Greek there is unity of faith and doctrine. We have one God, one Bible and one Faith. The modern day Jews are not, and have never been, God's Israel people as proven by the bible, history and even Jewish writings. The bible becomes a beautiful love story when one gets who is who. Christ did not fail in His mission!
So who do you think the Israel in Revelations is talking about if it’s not the modern day Israel ???
@@larrnew What does the bible say? The same people who were Israel when the ten commandments were given are the same people today. There are over 100 promises and prophecies as to what true physical Israel would do. Israel is to be a keeper of the Word of God. Israel is to take the Gospel to the world while forming many Christian nations. There are just three. For the last almost 2000 years, what one people have heard Christ's voice and followed Him as Christ himself said? It really is amazing how the scripture changes and can be read for what it says without "spiritualizing" so much of it.
@@tlcoucke so why did you say the modern Jews are not Gods Israel??? You’re contradicting yourself!
@@larrnew Trying to be brief. The people who today say they are Jews by their own writings, 90% are of Khazar, Ashkenaz descent through a grandson of Japheth. They are not Israelites. Esau is Edom, Genesis 36. "Edom is in modern Jewry", The Jewish Encyclopedia. 9% are of Edomite, Canaanite descent. These are the descendants of those who argued with Christ and saw to Christ's death. See what Christ told them in John 8. They admitted they were not Israelites. "Strictly speaking, it is incorrect to call an ancient Israelite a 'Jew' or to call a contemporary Jew an 'Israelite' or a 'Hebrew.'" "The Jewish Almanac", Compiled and Edited by Richard Siegel and Carl Rheins (New York: Bantam Books, 1980) 3. Today's Jews fulfill none of the prophecies for Israel. The terms Jew and Gentile are not in the Hebrew and Greek text. What people have fulfilled the prophecy for Israel in the previous post? God did not fail. God did not switch to a Plan B and find another bride. True Israel is found in the people who have been Christians for the last almost 2000 years.
@@larrnew Sorry I was being accurate, but I did not contradict. Read it again. The modern day Jews are not, and have never been, God's Israel people as proven by the bible, history and even Jewish writings. "Jews" does not equal "Israel". "Jews began to call themselves Hebrews and Israelites in 1860" -Encyclopedia Judaica 1971 Vol 10:23. "Strictly speaking, it is incorrect to call an ancient Israelite a 'Jew' or to call a contemporary Jew an 'Israelite' or a 'Hebrew.'" "The Jewish Almanac", Compiled and Edited by Richard Siegel and Carl Rheins (New York: Bantam Books, 1980) 3
No. 1. That's sack of Jerusalem
of course you wont hear about this in the apostate churches controlled by rome
acts 17:24
hebr 8:2
hebr 9:24
1 cor 3:16
gal 3:29
2 Thes 2: 1-11
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Yeah they don’t preach in that passage either😉🙏❤️
John seen it in the form of a vision when he received it on Patmos
Why not ask the pastor is that a crime?
I , for one , have asked many of the pastors in my area. With no response.
@@markhicks2800 I asked our pastor and an elder. They gave similar answers to Mike Winger…” this” means “ that”…”some standing here will not taste death “equals the transfiguration. No mention of angels coming to reward and repay as in the prior verse. Just a bunch of twisting of words. 😖🤪
@@markhicks2800 I think we should definitely ask our pastors and leadership! I just don’t think we will like their answers… at least I found them unsatisfactory.🙏❤️. And they don’t like being asked…. That has been my experience anyway.
Sorry to say this is bye plan actually believe they know the truth! That is why it's difficult attend these buildings.
Great message!
I believe you have a good point and do agree with your view. However, I strong believe that your initial presentation of the topic is not accurate in that pastors are intentionally hiding these verses because they do not want their congregation to know about it. To intentionally hide this from the congregation is to say that they know the truth but do not share it for some Allterior motive. This is not the case. I believe those that do not hold our view is simply due to their conviction on how the bible is to be interpreted based on their theology/eschatology. I do not believe pastors are intentionally deceiving their congregation while hold off the truth. Unfortunately, their theology/eschatology does not allow them to accommodate the truth of these verses and so they either dont address it due to difficulty of passage or simply have a different view on how to interpret that verse. Casting a negative light to churches in intentionally withholding information simply causes many to become discouraged and confused on the many contradictions within Christianity that makes it much easier to just walk away from it all.
Do you think our pastor “accidentally” forgot Luke 21:32?
It took all of two or three years to get to that part of Luke!
I like the two scripture portions of Jesus birth, in the book of Matthew they had to go to Egypt. We know God's children are called out of Egypt. The book of Mark is a workers group. The time is cut short in chapter 13. The second birth of Jesus in the book of Luke. We see they went to the temple did a dedication and all went home to Galilee. Jesus did not say his prayer in the garden until the book of John chapter 17 , love the part protect them where they are or let them be where I am. There is also the blood and the water from the soldier piercing the side speaking of in the flesh in the book of John. As Jesus did give up the ghost, the soul. As the spirit can come and go if the soul is still in the body. The father gave him the power to lay down his life and pick it back up. As we will also be able to do , after receiving holy Ghost in a new body. Right now we can only go in and out in spirit, F1 can see and hear in spirit. As many people are still wondering what is spirit and what is ghost.❤
OK, I’m not really concerned with when this takes place only that it takes place and I don’t mean just the reconciliation of men I mean the reconciliation of all of God’s creation, including the angels, the fallen angels, etc. you see God knew to the end which means if he lost any souls, it would be a huge oversight. God’s punishments are corrective in nature meaning he is not going to punish someone who does not have the ability to correct themselves. That would just be torture. We know God is love so it is contrary to how any father would treat his children. Also the word Aeon in Greek was miss translated by William Tisdale for the King James Bible. Originally it meant for a time, Tisdale changed it to mean eternal. This is obviously extremely terrifying to burn in hell forever with no end in sight and then just be exterminated. This was done to control people through fear and give the church. The highest authority have ever heard the term first one in last one out? as a football player, I heard this all the time in regards to or going to the gym. we can deduce that Lucifer was the first created being. he was the most powerful and beautiful angel. That being said it makes sense that he could take on this burden of being Satan. I believe one day he will return to God. He was the first one in hell and will be the last one out hell from my understanding is the state of purgatory where you go to burn off sin most of us need secondary schooling after this school in order to enter God’s holy kingdom. This is also why Jesus said that going straight from this world into heaven is like a camel going through the eye of a needle. You pretty much have to be a saint have some that have done this that didn’t even experience a mortal death. Like I said, I’m not really concerned with how or when God‘s creation returns to him. I’m only concerned that it returns to him many people fear and have a lot of concern for people that have been lost at the time of death. I like to make them aware that they may be in purgatory and depending on what they did, there are levels to purgatory, but purgatory is finite, God would never give any punishment for a finite sin. Let me know your thoughts on this. Appreciate the dialogue here.
I can't think of a prophet or apostle that wasn't viewed as a heretic. Our Lord and Savior's mortal ministry showed that He was the greatest heretic of them all.
It's good company. I'm a happy heretic too.
Thank you for saying it’s a salvation issue because it is. The difference is to not be believing Jesus’s word & to not be believing Jesus’s words is to be lost isn’t it? The Jews did not believe Jesus’s words as a whole then or even now & they are lost like everyone else who will not believe Jesus’s words.
@@joemoore3056 well I still believed Jesus even as futurist I was just confused🙏❤️
@ think about that , meditate on it . I’m thinking people are believing in Jesus as a futurist as far as he was/is real but they are not believing Jesus meaning what he said his meaning & his decision to come second time in the first century. They are not agreeing with him & his plan . A person can be a deceiver of their own self which I think is what happening to futurist & us when we were futurist.
Got more proof I think in Matthew 7 around verse 28 or so only the ones doing his will will be in the kingdom of God.
Now in Greek the word doeth is a sense of agreeing & the word will in Greek is desire, decision & good pleasure; so not agreeing will his decision keeps a person out of the kingdom & that would be lost wouldn’t it? Like is said if not why not? That’s the way I see (understand, perceive) it and tell others of it . That’s the importance of it to me and why evidently few there be that find it Lord Oh Lord…..
Yes. But sometimes they are well meaning but just confused. They spent a lot of time in seminary being brainwashed😂🙏❤️
On the topic of heresy...Christ was crucified for that very crime. Stephen was stoned to death for the same thing. Martin Luther...yup the church made the same charge against him. Strange when you think about heresy in those contexts. A really fun verse is 1 John 4:2-3. Think about those verses very carefully and our modern political world.
You are just taking verses out of context- People who have actually literal ability know the Bible is progressive revelation, so it must become taken in context.
They did see Christ return after the resurrection and John received the vision of the end times. It was fulfilled and is being fulfilled.
Are you referring to when Christ returned to the disciples?
@ yes and he will return in the clouds at his second coming- but after his first coming Jerusalem was destroyed and the Jews are exiled for 2000 years and they are hated of all nations as Jesus said they would be(Matt 24:9), just turn on the news, all the nations are against Israel today.
This generation means the race of Jews because it the Greek word Genea is also translated, age nation and time. This generation is still happening because the nation is still happening. The
@@ahammer7000 I think if you read Matthew in context, starting all the way back in chapter 23 you will see that Jesus is talking about the destruction of the temple. Then the disciples ask him about the destruction of the temple and link it to his coming and the end of the age. The book of Hebrews says that the temple is the symbol for the end of the age. So when I think about the context of Matthew 23 and 24 there is no way getting around that the context is completely temple and old covenant related. Contextually it had absolutely nothing to do with the end of the world and I just can’t see any way around that.🙏❤️
@ the disciples ask a direct question about when is the end of the world.
Matt 24:3 And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world”
@@ahammer7000 look up the Greek. It’s age not world. 🙏❤️
Preterism is the same as Jesuitism. Remember jesuit Alcazar? There is an explanation to all those verse, not complicated.
@@kaixo49 thanks for commenting. I think the preterist explanation is the simplest explanation and the only one that doesn’t distort scripture. I would argue it was invented by Jesus😉🙏❤️
@@kristinbingamon568 Not thue Preterism is using hermaneutics to make interpretation ignoring context. It seems that yoou have an automated response. Please make a valid argument. Explain WHY you hold that view, otherwise you are promoting Jesuitism and false doctrine. This is my last comment.
Or the one where Jesus calls Yahweh/ Jehovah , "Evil." after giving the Jews Snakes (Firey Flying Serpents) when they complained for food during the Exodus in the Num.21:5 event, then made them bow down before an image of the beast "serpent on a pole".to be healed. Jesus' answer to that very event is one of his most famous speeches...Matt.7:7, Jesus says not even an "evil earthly father" would give their children snakes when they ask for food. (Kingdom Divided Principle) Jesus was trying to tell us something....That Yahweh is really Satan pretending to be god....Bobby Collier YT channel (Good God) covers all of these contradictions in his "Evil Old Testament God" playlist...some of the best teaching that will prove this. I knew it in my heart he was right after the first video I watched, so I watched all 40+ videos. I couldn't believe how easy it was for me to be deceived so easily with fire from heaven and violent power of death. but the truth was revealed in Christ.
@@denofearthundertheeverlast5138 wow. I think you might also qualify as a heretic. So at least we have that in common!❤️🙏
If you owned a business and had 10 kids, would you prefer to divide ownership 10 ways equally no matter each child's interest, or would it please you to give it to the child that cared the most about it and devoted all his effort and time preserving and continuing the family legacy? Would that mean you didn't love your other children if you did that? Why is God wrong to leave it up to each person's free will to discover the truth and mysteries when he freely gives to those who freely seek and freely ask? Jesus says to trust no man and call no one teacher...it's your own fault if you show up to court with a basketball and not a lawyer!
I’m sorry I’m not sure what point you’re trying to make there?
About people who complain that if the Bible was real it wouldnt be so hard to understand or have so many different interpretations...blah blah blah
@ ah okay. But I don’t think most of our “ teachers” are doing us any favors🙏❤️
The average person is putting their very own salvation in the hands of another man, Institution, Preacher with a Theology degree, or RUclips channel! Jesus says he will send you his Holy Spirit to teach you! Have you asked him?
Would you also say that Isiah and Jonah are false prophets? They to discribed events that were delayed in respose to repentance. All that was necessary for Christ's return being visible was fulfilled in the days of the apostles. People are still entering in so that day is delayed.
Christ did return in the first century just as he promised. There was no delay! (Heb 10:37)
@bing621 Mathew 24:48, 25:5 and 25:19 say the Lord returns after long delays.
Prophecy about disturction and blessings are subject to repentance. It is not about false prophets. Look at Jonah he was a ture prophet and the one Jesus said he was most like. He was the most effective prophet he spoke the word of distruction, and they repented. Distruction was delayed. It eventually happened much later. Jeremiah 18:5-10. "Then the word of the LORD came to me: Can I not do with you, O house of Israel, just as this potter has done? says the LORD. Just like the clay in the potter’s hand, so are you in my hand, O house of Israel. At one moment I may declare concerning a nation or a kingdom, that I will pluck up and break down and destroy it, but if that nation, concerning which I have spoken, turns from its evil, I will change my mind about the disaster that I intended to bring on it. And at another moment I may declare concerning a nation or a kingdom that I will build and plant it, but if it does evil in my sight, not listening to my voice, then I will change my mind about the good that I had intended to do to it."
In the parables the master always returns in the lifetime of those he left🙏❤️
Remember Nineveh repented. Israel/jerusalem did not. They crucified jesus( Jonah). What do you think god would have done to Nineveh if they would have murdered Jonah?🙏❤️
@kristinbingamon568 they were punished, and God in Christ did it. Just like God in Christ led the Babylonians destroyed the first temple.
To this day, people are repenting, and the end of this age with the separation and judgment has been delayed.
Also, I’m only hearing one secret verse. I thought this video had multiple secret verses. I would love to debate these as I am an exorcist and without a doubt 110% know Jesus Christ is God. I’m also a Christian universallist. If you’re familiar with that if you’re not, I suggest looking into it. Either way if you would like to discuss or debate, I am always happy to do that. I am always civil. I understand these things can be esoteric in nature and having some of my experiences I have a different perspective than most. Just let me know ~ I’ll be your huckleberry.
Appreciate your comment however, I also know what I’m talking about and I’ve spent countless hours of study and contemplation to come to my understanding. Could you list some specific examples of how a universalist does not understand the fulfillment of prophecy? I think both and you and I would benefit from some friendly discussion.
@@ophiuchus9071 OK, I’m not really concerned with when this takes place only that it takes place and I don’t mean just the reconciliation of men I mean the reconciliation of all of God’s creation, including the angels, the fallen angels, etc. you see God knew to the end which means if he lost any souls, it would be a huge oversight. God’s punishments are corrective in nature meaning he is not going to punish someone who does not have the ability to correct themselves. That would just be torture. We know God is love so it is contrary to how any father would treat his children. Also the word Aeon in Greek was miss translated by William Tisdale for the King James Bible. Originally it meant for a time, Tisdale changed it to mean eternal. This is obviously extremely terrifying to burn in hell forever with no end in sight and then just be exterminated. This was done to control people through fear and give the church. The highest authority have ever heard the term first one in last one out? as a football player, I heard this all the time in regards to or going to the gym. we can deduce that Lucifer was the first created being. he was the most powerful and beautiful angel. That being said it makes sense that he could take on this burden of being Satan. I believe one day he will return to God. He was the first one in hell and will be the last one out hell from my understanding is the state of purgatory where you go to burn off sin most of us need secondary schooling after this school in order to enter God’s holy kingdom. This is also why Jesus said that going straight from this world into heaven is like a camel going through the eye of a needle. You pretty much have to be a saint have some that have done this that didn’t even experience a mortal death. Like I said, I’m not really concerned with how or when God‘s creation returns to him. I’m only concerned that it returns to him many people fear and have a lot of concern for people that have been lost at the time of death. I like to make them aware that they may be in purgatory and depending on what they did, there are levels to purgatory, but purgatory is finite, God would never give any punishment for a finite sin. Let me know your thoughts on this. Appreciate the dialogue here.
@@ophiuchus9071 wow I would be in over my head here but you guys have fun😂🙏❤️
@@ophiuchus9071 yes men have the ability to correct themselves. We learn all the time from our mistakes. we are one body of Christ. One. Nothing can ever separate us from God. God would not have created a creature in order to torture him for eternity. Lucifer was good until he became prideful and felt he deserved worship. God knew the beginning to the end, and I assure you he would not have created a being knowing that they were destined to be punished eternally.
@@ophiuchus9071 no it did not mean Judas was Satan. It meant he was under the influence of Satan.
Here’s a verse- John 6:66. The people who stop following Jesus after He insists you must eat his flesh or you will not have eternal life. Yeah- that number again. I eat the flesh of Jesus daily. At Mass. I refuse to be in that number- 666.
Stick with Apostolic succession.. stick to the Bishops with direct lineages to the first Apostles. The one, true, Holy, Catholic, apostolic Church.
Yeah I do… it starts and ends with Jesus for me though…. He doesn’t need a successor ❤️. What does the Roman Catholic Church teach about Matthew 24:34?
You should also look up Stephen K Ray. Ex Protestant pastor.. a great source for Catholic teachings. Or Jimmy Akin. You’re missing out on some great stuff
You and JTfollowsJC are my favourite post millenials, although slightly different takes. He believes that we are currently in Satan's little season - this is what I believe....we are on the cusp of the most exciting time in history, the New Jerusalem with a physical Jesus reigning on earth.
@@dannorth9125 thank you for the kind words! Although I’m not really a Post millennial and I don’t believe we’re in Satan’s little season and I don’t believe that the new Jerusalem is physical or that Jesus has a physical body but other than that I’m on board with everything you said!😂🙏❤️ but it’s totally OK to disagree. I’m glad that we can have the conversation.🥰
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Interesting.I assumed preterists were post or amillenials. I was told by a preterist friend that my views were aligned with amillenialism, but I lean towards a millenium that has already occurred, and was covered up by Satan in his short season - which we are in. IMO
@@kristinbingamon568😂
Muslims don't say Jesus was a prophet. They believe Jesus was a prophet. Mormons believe Jesus was an Angel.
But they believe he was wrong about the timing of his return I believe.
Isn’t it possible that Jesus was talking about his resurrection and how he appeared before multitudes of people I mean, this is blatantly obvious for those that have eyes to see. He was literally just talking about how he had to go into town and be killed by the elders the verse before so obviously when he’s talking about his return, he’s talking about the resurrection. Literally two or three verses up he saying he hast to go to Jerusalem and be killed and resurrected so he’s saying there are some of you standing here that will witness this and will see me in my glory. He is not talking about the second coming here.
It says that when Jesus died on the cross, “the bodies of many saints who had fallen asleep were raised. And coming forth from their tombs after his resurrection, they entered the holy city and appeared to many” (Mt 27:52-53).
Matt 16:27,28
“For the Son of Man is going to come in the glory of His Father with His angels, and will then repay every man according to his deeds. “Truly I say to you, there are some of those who are standing here who will not taste death until they see the Son of Man coming in His kingdom.””
Matthew 16:27-28
Is it your belief that Jesus returned in the glory of the father with his angels and repaid every man according to their deeds at his resurrection?
@@bing621 did the passage state that when he came, he would repay everyone according to their deeds or did he just say you will see me coming with the glory of my kingdom? He did not say those who were present would be judged. He merely said they would see him in his kingdom. He was referring to the future when he said I will repay everyone, according to their deeds but he was referring to the very very near future when he said you will see me in my glory with my kingdom before you taste death.
“The tombs also were opened. And many bodies of the saints who had fallen asleep were raised, and coming out of the tombs after his resurrection they went into the holy city and appeared to many. (Matt. 27:52-53)
He is providing proof that the latter will happen by way of the very near event that everyone will see him in his glory. when Jesus reappeared to the multitudes, it wasn’t just him. I’m sure there were angels present. There was trumpet sounding there was the glory of the father with him. He saying y’all will see this in your lifetime.
In the versus prior, he was not talking only about the second coming. He was also talking about the resurrection just a few verses prior he was describing what would happen to him in Jerusalem and his resurrection as well so it’s very possible that he was speaking about the resurrection when they would see him again before they tasted death. That verse when he says y’all will see me again he does not say and you will be judged
@@joelharvey579 in Matt 16:27 the word MELLO translated “going to” should actually say “about to”.
Look up the definition and usage of mello throughout the New Testament to understand that it is properly translated about to.
@@joelharvey579I agree with you… also there were angels present at his tomb and when he ascended to heaven!
That pesky fly.🪰
@@stelthtrekker9445 very pesky!😖
That would be the generation of the fig tree that started in 1948 and the longest generation in the Bible is 120 years so you do the math
So now the target rapture date is 2068?? Is that what you are implying?
Ray is actually from New zealand
@@trasenagleeson5422 oh oops! Well I was close right 🤪🙏❤️
Hello, I would just like to say that I think that you have a lot in common with Jason Jack on RUclips. If you look him up, then maybe both you and he, can find more answers and support to some puzzling questions. I also think that he would benefit from listening to you as well. May God bless you and and add to your wisdom and understanding of the Word of God ( KING JAMES BIBLE).