About the oversized pulley and cage - practically I found after using them for 1 season, that its prone to attract more sticks, leaves, mud, etc collecting and is more prone to getting bent or having to clean it out mid-ride or you notice slower shifting. Thats why I stopped using the larger pulleys on both my trail and gravel bike.
I’ve been through several dropper posts on my XC race bike, and finally settled on the Transfer SL last year. It’s essentially perfect for XC racing! Reliable, can’t sag, very positive feel so you know what it’s doing, and light to boot.
Thanks for the MTB content!I don't road bike but there is a lot of cross over in the theory behind training and enjoy your other stuff nonetheless. Wouldn't be mad about more MTB content.
Hi Dylan, can you do a video on XC tyres and how theyve changed over the years, etc when I started 8years ago i was told run 2.0s, then about 4 years ago i moved to 2.25, Now I'm hearing that Nino and scott are running 2.4s. It would be interesting to see the science of the fatter tyres. Also on the topic of bearings, I'm assuming that you have spare wheels to spare your wheel bearings, however your BB could die and need to be replaced after around 2 weeks of training no?
Love the Content! You Opened up my eyes for structured Training and I'm really feeling how fast it helps me getting stronger. Also love how you treat the tires topic. Could you please 🙏🙏🙏 do a rundown on the tires you use for gravel racing? A real non sponsored pro opinion would be ace!!! Greetings from Germany Ralf
Dear god thank you for not saying something along the lines of "I've secretly been riding *currently sponsored* bikes for decades and they're the best" like some other influencers.
Not sure if you were being sarcastic, but its so nice this bike has 2 bottle cage mounts. Too many XC bikes are a no-go for me because of the lack of mounts.
Agreed, buy a bike, dial in the fit and find out the stem is too long/short. Is the factory going to give you the one you really need or are you going to have to spend extra cabbage for the right one? Chances are they aren't going to make a 75, 85 or a 95 cm. with changing geometries and stack heights, how is one supposed to know which length to get? Custom fits all around! Bad enough dealing with small, medium, large. What is that?
@@roadbike1014 It's about more than just the first adjustment when first obtaining the bicycle. If you keep the bike for some period of time, your position may evolve or devolve. This is especially true if you're not already an elite rider.
I'm training for another 6 months on my Specialized Tanker, making marginal upgrades along the way. Then...I'm pulling the trigger on a higher end mtb. I can only imagine what I will be doing with the goods between my legs. Long narrow road is best. Patience. 💥DJ
Can you link to the site that showed the graph of the chain efficiencies, showing the YBN as faster than SRAM? Guessing ZFC but haven't seen that one on there. Assumed that as the Eagle chains tested to have the highest longevity they would be the most efficient.
Pro Tip: The Chequamegon 40 is really more of a gravel race. Bring your gravel bike with the biggest tires that fit. Lots of rolling grassy hills and a some double track. Just a bit of useful info to pay you back for all I've gotten from you.
NIce sensible approach to xc where weight savings in some ways would be more applicable than flat road, F=M*A and all, many accelerations compared to road and over long durations all add up. Factor seem to be a company hitting form all over the place and the finishing kit seems to be hitting the mark too! Both road and MTB.
Hey, i love the factor bikes, and looking for the fully mtb! Is it possible to mount a 38t oval chainring on the crank? I live in Belgium and here is not much climbing!
Hi Dylan, it would be amazing if you could do a video of your MTB tire choice, pressures for different scenarios such as MTB XC/Marathon races on grass, wet grass, super wet grass, dirt, mud, gravel, etc. Since you refuse to have a tire sponsor this would be super interesting to get your experience as the tire is one of the cheaper and effective improvements. You inspired me to move from Road to MTB, wax my chain, and focus more on other things besides weight :D Greetings from Germany! Love all your videos and content :)
Dylan, if you want a super secure option that isn't so ugly + matches your Ti cage, go for the King Iris cage. Use them on my enduro bike and holes even a tall 1L bottle without dropping on proper DH trails.
I completely agree and have tire inserts on both gravel and Mtn bikes. Although I have wider rims i30-35mm on my Mtn bikes and i26-i27 on my gravel bikes. I go a little bit higher in tire pressures with my tires but I have run really low pressures on occasions but it depends on the trails.
Hey Dylan, love your channel. I am looking at picking up a Lando. What rear shock are you running? It looks like the DT swiss unit that they spec on their complete builds. I have heard some people struggling to setup those units.
@dylan I fully agree with you on those tyres. I've tried a lot over the years and keep coming back to them. How is the Silca sealant with those tyres? Every pair I've had leak sealant so bad through the carcass. I wish there was a 2.4 version. Conti always bit behind the times with sizing.
Cool bike Dylan. I look forward to hearing about your adventures on the new rig and if it creaks? I asked my sponsor for a new bike and they said “no”. I did ask my sponsor if I could get a new wheels Bottom bracket to stop the creaking. It’s getting so bad one guy after a race said he could hear me getting ready to pass him! My sponsor told me to ride the old rig into the ground and pay off my divorce. I may have neglected to mention I’m my own sponsor. 🤷🏼♂️
How is that Silca Tire Sealant treating you? I had a lot of problems with it massively clumping up around holes and becoming like a rotating brick in my tire. Did you have anything like that as well?
Does rolling resistance test of XC tires on SMOOTH barell is even revelant? In terms of science it at least showed that they are fastest on smooth barell but should we extrapolate to terrain? As I remember swiss xc team made some back to back real track tests and 2.4 aspens appered to be the fastest. As well climbing traction could be important factor on overall performance and you can loose or gain some watts on it especially durning an mtb event. I have never seen data showing how much power could be transfered by each of tires.
Do the factor bars allow for the use of aero clipons? I have a Scott/Syncros Hixon barstem, but its shape would seem to disallow clipons, (Or even a light mount.)
Beware of these super light bikes. They use aluminum & titanium alloys where other bikes use steel, in critical areas like freehub pawls, axles, etc. Parts that last forever on normal bikes, are "consumable" and need to be replaced periodically on these super light bikes. Sometimes the wear / metal fatigue is not apparent to visible inspection, so to avoid critical failures stranding you out in the middle of nowhere, you end up replacing these parts whether they need it or not, based on mileage or calendar.
imho ceramic speed seems like more hype (and $$$) than gains compared to high quality steel bearings + races (e.g. NTN, SKF, Timken, etc.) matched with low viscosity grease/oil. what's the science say?
Great vid! What other tires do you recommend? The raceking on the front seems a little bit too sketchy, but maybe I'm wrong. For endurance racing, they work perfectly (on the back) but for XC they lack grip especially on turns. I've tried the thunderburt 2.35 with great lateral grip but they don't read the terrain as I wished. Kenda booster or pirelli scorpion H seems like a good option but they haven't been tested by the RR guy
Cross king front 2.2, weight is 615g and night and day difference in braking and cornering I previously used rekon maxspeed 2.25 and the crossking feels better
After about 3 years the last Keurig stopped working ruclips.net/user/postUgkxBrV-RbF5Nk0Rlt9i15aao-YMzqzTG8Vf initially was able to unblock, however eventually we couldn't fix. That one was a replacement unit sent by the manufacturer after we had problems with our very first Keurig. This works fine (lol, at least for now) however I didn't realize the water reservoir was so much smaller than our prior unit. With 2 people having one or two cups of coffee each morning, it seems like I'm refilling it daily. Otherwise just happy to have the convenience of pod coffee vs. making a morning pot.
When running pressures this low, I'm always afraid that my tire is somehow going to slide off the rim in sharp corners (and cause me to crash most likely). Is that something I should be worried about and just put more pressure in my tires, or is that something that's just very unlikely to happen, and my sidewalls significantly deforming under the centrifugal force is completely normal.. ?
Dylan. Really insightful, I wonder how many guys who aren’t at the pointy end of competition will watch this and spend $$$ to get those marginal gains, but could be better served to focus on improving skill and fitness. I know I have a ways to go before marginal gains will make a difference in my results.
Haters tend to forget that people who can spend the money to get these marginal gains can also ride their bikes and train better to improve their performance it they wanted to, but is not necessarily true vice versa as some people can ride 6 hours a day but cannot afford to spend $20k on a bike. Buy what you want to buy, ride when and where you want to ride. No need to be a hater about it, lol
Looks like you're running a crank-based power meter (Quarq). All crank-based PM's will give inaccurate reading on suspension bike. Reason being these types of PMs do not account for vertical movement of the bottom bracket.
@@JeremyCaissie on a rigid road bike, when you press on the pedal, almost all the force will go into the crankarm (and thus the crank spider). On a suspension bike, when you press on the pedal, the bottom bracket will bob downward, So in addition to the force going into the crankarm (and thus the crank), there will also be a force acting on the bottom bracket to make it move downward. The crank PM cannot measure the force acting on the bottom bracket as it only measure the force acting on the crankarm. That's my understanding anyway.
@@WanderingSword mmm very interesting thing to discuss. I guess from a performance aspect you really want to focus on the force (power) through the drivetrain and not reward the rider for any power loss due to the suspension efficiency. Thanks for explaining.
@@JeremyCaissie I agree, measure at the wheel. Remember a couple months back Dylan did a test about "pedalling efficiency" of hardtail vs full suspension, and he presented data that the power he measured at the crank was the same when using a hardtail vs full suspension bike while doing the same time, thus he concluded that pedalling efficiency of hardtail and full suspension is the same. I replied that it was a flaw experiment. Reality is he probably had to put out more power on the full suspension to keep it the same time as the hardtail. And if you think about it, this would make sense. Suspension aborb power and convert it into heat via the shock. So he had to put in more power into the full suspension bike if that bike is to make the same time as the hardtail.
But power is relative to what you are riding. If you are training on the same bike you are racing then any inefficiencies don’t matter because you encounter them whether training or racing.
The beauty of using a dropper post is that one can run a really low bar position for great climbing, and by using the dropper for descending, there is no compromise in position on the downhills. Of course, this does not explain the idiots around here riding Enduro race bikes on XC trails, struggling on the climbs in a 28-51... the new school XC, Downcountry, and short travel trail (120/130) bikes are now awesome on the ups and the downs, and rarely is there any adventure for an enduro bike on most trail rides
Would love if you would added more MTB content to the channel. I think XC isn't shown much on yt.
Agreed👍👍👍👍
100% !
Yeah💪🏼
Yes plzz
More xc!
You forgot to mention the 25w saving from the dropper post being kashima coated.
Cool bike!
About the oversized pulley and cage - practically I found after using them for 1 season, that its prone to attract more sticks, leaves, mud, etc collecting and is more prone to getting bent or having to clean it out mid-ride or you notice slower shifting. Thats why I stopped using the larger pulleys on both my trail and gravel bike.
Thanks DJ, awesome video as usual… really enjoy and value all of your technical insights on *the art* of marginal gains. 👍🏽
I’ve been through several dropper posts on my XC race bike, and finally settled on the Transfer SL last year. It’s essentially perfect for XC racing! Reliable, can’t sag, very positive feel so you know what it’s doing, and light to boot.
whats a good dropper length for xc racing? 100mm?
Thanks for the MTB content!I don't road bike but there is a lot of cross over in the theory behind training and enjoy your other stuff nonetheless. Wouldn't be mad about more MTB content.
Hi Dylan, can you do a video on XC tyres and how theyve changed over the years, etc when I started 8years ago i was told run 2.0s, then about 4 years ago i moved to 2.25, Now I'm hearing that Nino and scott are running 2.4s. It would be interesting to see the science of the fatter tyres. Also on the topic of bearings, I'm assuming that you have spare wheels to spare your wheel bearings, however your BB could die and need to be replaced after around 2 weeks of training no?
Dylan Johnson... Can you make a XC MTB training video. 👍👍👍🔥🔥🔥 What dropper do you recommend
🥇
Seconded.
-Roadie/gravel to XC convert.
Please
Love the Content!
You Opened up my eyes for structured Training and I'm really feeling how fast it helps me getting stronger.
Also love how you treat the tires topic.
Could you please 🙏🙏🙏 do a rundown on the tires you use for gravel racing?
A real non sponsored pro opinion would be ace!!!
Greetings from Germany
Ralf
Dear god thank you for not saying something along the lines of "I've secretly been riding *currently sponsored* bikes for decades and they're the best" like some other influencers.
Not sure if you were being sarcastic, but its so nice this bike has 2 bottle cage mounts. Too many XC bikes are a no-go for me because of the lack of mounts.
Awesome setup. I wonder if you adjust seat height while swapping from mtb to road pedals
once again, bhd gets me chuckling out loud!
yup, more MTB tips and tech!
Ya know what's a good video.
How to get fit in a limited time like you had to take an unwanted break have have races coming
Integrated bar and stem doesn't allow for simple customization of position. I don't understand how you can support that.
Agreed, buy a bike, dial in the fit and find out the stem is too long/short. Is the factory going to give you the one you really need or are you going to have to spend extra cabbage for the right one? Chances are they aren't going to make a 75, 85 or a 95 cm. with changing geometries and stack heights, how is one supposed to know which length to get? Custom fits all around! Bad enough dealing with small, medium, large. What is that?
@@roadbike1014 It's about more than just the first adjustment when first obtaining the bicycle. If you keep the bike for some period of time, your position may evolve or devolve. This is especially true if you're not already an elite rider.
I'm training for another 6 months on my Specialized Tanker, making marginal upgrades along the way.
Then...I'm pulling the trigger on a higher end mtb.
I can only imagine what I will be doing with the goods between my legs.
Long narrow road is best.
Patience.
💥DJ
Will we ever see you race the Mohican 100 again? The course has way more single track now!
Looks sweet Dylan. I love your attention to detail.
Thank DJ, you help get me back into cycling after 25 years. Could you cover cardiac drift
Do you custom tune your suspension at all?
Like, shim stack tuning or install DSD Runt or Luftkappe, etc.
Can you link to the site that showed the graph of the chain efficiencies, showing the YBN as faster than SRAM? Guessing ZFC but haven't seen that one on there. Assumed that as the Eagle chains tested to have the highest longevity they would be the most efficient.
Pro Tip: The Chequamegon 40 is really more of a gravel race. Bring your gravel bike with the biggest tires that fit. Lots of rolling grassy hills and a some double track. Just a bit of useful info to pay you back for all I've gotten from you.
that top cage is bloody genius
NIce sensible approach to xc where weight savings in some ways would be more applicable than flat road, F=M*A and all, many accelerations compared to road and over long durations all add up. Factor seem to be a company hitting form all over the place and the finishing kit seems to be hitting the mark too! Both road and MTB.
Thank you Dylan for another great video 🤘
Hey, i love the factor bikes, and looking for the fully mtb! Is it possible to mount a 38t oval chainring on the crank? I live in Belgium and here is not much climbing!
A man of culture - I like that they're big & gold haha
Hi Dylan, it would be amazing if you could do a video of your MTB tire choice, pressures for different scenarios such as MTB XC/Marathon races on grass, wet grass, super wet grass, dirt, mud, gravel, etc. Since you refuse to have a tire sponsor this would be super interesting to get your experience as the tire is one of the cheaper and effective improvements.
You inspired me to move from Road to MTB, wax my chain, and focus more on other things besides weight :D
Greetings from Germany! Love all your videos and content :)
hey Dylan - got a link to that chain you use?
Dylan, if you want a super secure option that isn't so ugly + matches your Ti cage, go for the King Iris cage. Use them on my enduro bike and holes even a tall 1L bottle without dropping on proper DH trails.
I completely agree and have tire inserts on both gravel and Mtn bikes. Although I have wider rims i30-35mm on my Mtn bikes and i26-i27 on my gravel bikes. I go a little bit higher in tire pressures with my tires but I have run really low pressures on occasions but it depends on the trails.
At 27 K/h everything should be aero there is still plenty of gains at those speeds ,
Sick rig btw!!!
So going to 120mm fork from 100mm fork on XC seems to be getting more popular these days on new bikes.
hey @dylan what do you think of the maxxis rekon race?
Why does integrated bar and stem make sense? Are they significantly lighter?
23 lbs is pretty good! Tell me D. Do you ever find yourself in between gears with a 12 speed?
beautiful bike
Didn t talk about you aero bars
No Titanium bolt kit?
crank length? Feelings toward shorter trend?
Wolfpack tires ... love them
Any reason you use the Dawn to Dusk Kaptive 10 over the Kaptive 14?
Any reason why you’re using SRAM on the MTB with different chain and shimano on gravel if shimano is faster?
4:22 what's wrong with the *Ramblers* ? I just put 700x38 on my Diverge
Slow casing
🎶Comfort and Grip, good tidings of Comfort and Grip🎶
King Cage Ti cages ftw!
Hey Dylan, love your channel. I am looking at picking up a Lando. What rear shock are you running? It looks like the DT swiss unit that they spec on their complete builds. I have heard some people struggling to setup those units.
@dylan I fully agree with you on those tyres. I've tried a lot over the years and keep coming back to them. How is the Silca sealant with those tyres? Every pair I've had leak sealant so bad through the carcass. I wish there was a 2.4 version. Conti always bit behind the times with sizing.
Cool bike Dylan. I look forward to hearing about your adventures on the new rig and if it creaks? I asked my sponsor for a new bike and they said “no”. I did ask my sponsor if I could get a new wheels Bottom bracket to stop the creaking. It’s getting so bad one guy after a race said he could hear me getting ready to pass him! My sponsor told me to ride the old rig into the ground and pay off my divorce. I may have neglected to mention I’m my own sponsor. 🤷🏼♂️
How is that Silca Tire Sealant treating you? I had a lot of problems with it massively clumping up around holes and becoming like a rotating brick in my tire. Did you have anything like that as well?
great review, curious if you use the integrated bar/stem on the LS. I am having a hard time giving up my flare. Thoughts?
great video Brother!
Dylan Johnson: It’s lighter and more aero
Me: Bruh.
Does rolling resistance test of XC tires on SMOOTH barell is even revelant? In terms of science it at least showed that they are fastest on smooth barell but should we extrapolate to terrain? As I remember swiss xc team made some back to back real track tests and 2.4 aspens appered to be the fastest. As well climbing traction could be important factor on overall performance and you can loose or gain some watts on it especially durning an mtb event. I have never seen data showing how much power could be transfered by each of tires.
Thanks Dylan! Question: it looks like you are Not running Live Valve or mechanical lock-out. If so, can you explain your rationale?
What is the name of the chain you are using for races?
I have the whole comment section to myself
Not any more
Do the factor bars allow for the use of aero clipons? I have a Scott/Syncros Hixon barstem, but its shape would seem to disallow clipons, (Or even a light mount.)
Beware of these super light bikes. They use aluminum & titanium alloys where other bikes use steel, in critical areas like freehub pawls, axles, etc. Parts that last forever on normal bikes, are "consumable" and need to be replaced periodically on these super light bikes. Sometimes the wear / metal fatigue is not apparent to visible inspection, so to avoid critical failures stranding you out in the middle of nowhere, you end up replacing these parts whether they need it or not, based on mileage or calendar.
imho ceramic speed seems like more hype (and $$$) than gains compared to high quality steel bearings + races (e.g. NTN, SKF, Timken, etc.) matched with low viscosity grease/oil. what's the science say?
How do you determine the right dropper post length to buy? Is 100mm the norm?
Look at all them cables, Silca Josh says that is like 1.6321 watts/cable
Why aren’t you using the bikeahead 5 spoke? If nothing else you’ll super cool.
Mohican 100 May 21st, DILLON?? Lots of new Singletrack that is gnarly af with really hard rock sections.
How about a review of the Lando?
Where did u buys ur groupset SRAM axis?
@5:10 there’s a spider crawling across numberplate 978, his left shoulder 🕷 🫣
Ceramic speed pulley on an mtb... Looks amazing but ouch thats an espensive thing than can easily break
No aero bar?!
How many mm is the dropper ?
Great vid! What other tires do you recommend? The raceking on the front seems a little bit too sketchy, but maybe I'm wrong. For endurance racing, they work perfectly (on the back) but for XC they lack grip especially on turns. I've tried the thunderburt 2.35 with great lateral grip but they don't read the terrain as I wished. Kenda booster or pirelli scorpion H seems like a good option but they haven't been tested by the RR guy
Cross king front 2.2, weight is 615g and night and day difference in braking and cornering I previously used rekon maxspeed 2.25 and the crossking feels better
looks a little bit like a BMC fourstroke 01
After about 3 years the last Keurig stopped working ruclips.net/user/postUgkxBrV-RbF5Nk0Rlt9i15aao-YMzqzTG8Vf initially was able to unblock, however eventually we couldn't fix. That one was a replacement unit sent by the manufacturer after we had problems with our very first Keurig. This works fine (lol, at least for now) however I didn't realize the water reservoir was so much smaller than our prior unit. With 2 people having one or two cups of coffee each morning, it seems like I'm refilling it daily. Otherwise just happy to have the convenience of pod coffee vs. making a morning pot.
Can you use beans for marginal gains on the front fork?
Do you use 44 or 51mm offset fork?
When running pressures this low, I'm always afraid that my tire is somehow going to slide off the rim in sharp corners (and cause me to crash most likely). Is that something I should be worried about and just put more pressure in my tires, or is that something that's just very unlikely to happen, and my sidewalls significantly deforming under the centrifugal force is completely normal.. ?
you should go to a local bike shop and ask for advice
Yeah I might. But I'm afraid I'll get a similar advice like from my friends, who tell me I should run around 2 bar 😆🤦♀️
Has the Silca sealant been tested vs Stans Race?
I have to think that those tire inserts ding the Conti's low rolling resistance significantly. I say just add 2 psi and skip them.
Why would the inserts ding RR significantly? Keegan runs those too and they sure don’t seem to slow him down.
Anyone know the mountain bike tire rater he was using in the video?
Intergrated bar and stem make sense 😂
Bhd approves this video.
What are the tire inserts?
tubolito evo sl
squaawk!
Just did only build they have. Ouch 9k.
anyone notice a slight audio sync issue?
So you’re riding the Lando Calrissian?🤣🤣🤣 I had to do it I’m an old school Star Wars fan.
Please, for the love of everything that is holy, can someone with the means get one of these and have it painted light blue and gold? Please?
08:53 nooooooooo
Dylan. Really insightful, I wonder how many guys who aren’t at the pointy end of competition will watch this and spend $$$ to get those marginal gains, but could be better served to focus on improving skill and fitness. I know I have a ways to go before marginal gains will make a difference in my results.
Haters tend to forget that people who can spend the money to get these marginal gains can also ride their bikes and train better to improve their performance it they wanted to, but is not necessarily true vice versa as some people can ride 6 hours a day but cannot afford to spend $20k on a bike.
Buy what you want to buy, ride when and where you want to ride. No need to be a hater about it, lol
Continentals Race king in the front is sooooo DEATH
Maxxis as the best mtb tyres? No way!
Bro I will not run a stem longer than 40mm and bars narrower than 790
How "Enduro" of you bro ;-)
I run a 70mm stem with 700mm wide bar on Both my xc hardtails bro
I'd keep MTB in your quiver...just for your sanity! (no offence to 100's of miles of monotonous gravel roads)
Looks like you're running a crank-based power meter (Quarq). All crank-based PM's will give inaccurate reading on suspension bike. Reason being these types of PMs do not account for vertical movement of the bottom bracket.
Explain
@@JeremyCaissie on a rigid road bike, when you press on the pedal, almost all the force will go into the crankarm (and thus the crank spider). On a suspension bike, when you press on the pedal, the bottom bracket will bob downward, So in addition to the force going into the crankarm (and thus the crank), there will also be a force acting on the bottom bracket to make it move downward. The crank PM cannot measure the force acting on the bottom bracket as it only measure the force acting on the crankarm. That's my understanding anyway.
@@WanderingSword mmm very interesting thing to discuss. I guess from a performance aspect you really want to focus on the force (power) through the drivetrain and not reward the rider for any power loss due to the suspension efficiency. Thanks for explaining.
@@JeremyCaissie I agree, measure at the wheel. Remember a couple months back Dylan did a test about "pedalling efficiency" of hardtail vs full suspension, and he presented data that the power he measured at the crank was the same when using a hardtail vs full suspension bike while doing the same time, thus he concluded that pedalling efficiency of hardtail and full suspension is the same. I replied that it was a flaw experiment. Reality is he probably had to put out more power on the full suspension to keep it the same time as the hardtail. And if you think about it, this would make sense. Suspension aborb power and convert it into heat via the shock. So he had to put in more power into the full suspension bike if that bike is to make the same time as the hardtail.
But power is relative to what you are riding. If you are training on the same bike you are racing then any inefficiencies don’t matter because you encounter them whether training or racing.
Still 1 bottle cage IMO. No Bueno!
Huh? I guess there being two bolted to the bike infront of your eyes isnt proof enough :D ha ha
Hi. Love your content. Would you be interested in advertising partnership?
Dude, your stem is upside down. Sorry, I'm stuck under a bridge.
The beauty of using a dropper post is that one can run a really low bar position for great climbing, and by using the dropper for descending, there is no compromise in position on the downhills. Of course, this does not explain the idiots around here riding Enduro race bikes on XC trails, struggling on the climbs in a 28-51... the new school XC, Downcountry, and short travel trail (120/130) bikes are now awesome on the ups and the downs, and rarely is there any adventure for an enduro bike on most trail rides
YO WHY THIS BIKE TOO FUCKING EXPENSIVE?
Nooooo…integrated bar/stems…please keep MTB’s free from that bike fit finessing nightmare.