62 Or 70? When To Start Collecting Social Security Benefits.
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- Опубликовано: 11 авг 2023
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The average social security check is $1827 a month. The worst part is 22% of Americans have less than $5k saved for retirement. Start investing now! Nobody is coming to save you
I’ve been diligently working, saving and contributing towards early retirement and financial freedom, but since covid outbreak, the economy so far has caused my portfolio to underperform, do I keep contributing to my 401k or look at alternative sectors to meet my goals?
Continue to contribute! At this point, I would advise you to think about financial advising; keep in mind that you are in it for the long run.
I'm in line with having an advisor oversee my day-to-day investing cos, my job doesn't permit me the time to analyze stocks myself. Thankfully, my portfolio has just 5X in barely 5 years, summing up nearly $1m after subsequent investments to date.
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I took it early. Their are no guarantees on life expectancy. If you live long, then worry about it. Almost 70 now.
I get it. I decided to apply early because I can't be guaranteed to live to 67 much less 70. It's a miracle I made it to 62.😮
I started at 62!!
As long as u have insurance figured out good for u
40 years of corporate America. I took mine at age 62. Then I cheated and filed for SSDI. It was a 3-year battle, but I won my SSDI. Getting FRB now. I have 1y left for my SSDI to turn back SSB. Downsize to Independent Senior Living. So I'm good.
The value of money diminishes as time goes by. So I’m 60 right now, I’ll take the money and run at 62!
thank you for noting that.....money in one's 60s much more valuable than more money in their 80s or 90s
To me it's pretty simple, if you are working at 62 and NEED that job to survive then you take SSI at 66 or 67, or 70. If you don't need to work at 62 I would take it. NOBODY knows how long you will live
This depends what your making at the time of 62? You can still take your SS at 62 and then go work part time and make another $2000.00 a month on top of your SS without pentalties. This allows you to work much less and on your terms instead of a 40 to 50 hour work week job you don't enjoy. Most people should be close to being debt free by the time they see 62 so they can take SS. If not then you didn't plan good to retire at any age.
My plan exactly 💯
Don’t forget you have to buy your own medical coverage until age 65.
@@DMUSA536 I use Health care.gov. My medical insurance plan cost $37.00 a month for my wife and I with either BCBS or Priority Health. NOT SURE why people don't know this or use this? There is plenty of options for medical coverage when your under 65.
That is why I started at 62. I get my medical through my working employer.
Being a nurse I think of this differently. So many people live with some serious health conditions and shouldn't wait that long to retire because they may not get much time.
Yes, it’s a very personal decision for each person, depending on many unique circumstances:
I so agree with you!
I took mine at 62 and I do not regret it at all, I am living the life. Fishing and goofing off every single day.
But is little money. Financially I need to wait till 65
You will make it. You will love it.@@ceciliar2449
Same. 62 and out. Life is way too short.
Some people work because they do not know what else to do with their time? The brain gets institutionalized to work?
@@JS-gt5bh I feel sorry for folks like that, I enjoy goofing off, fishing and hanging out, or just watching silly you tube videos.
My best, friend ❤❤ Died at 59 no warning 😢😢 no health problems that woke me up, take it 💵💸62 & Runn.😂😂
I’m 50 now, when I turn 62 I’m done punishing in and out with company. I want to enjoy my life too.
I’m a nurse. You slow down soooo much between 62-70. Also, health issues are inevitable and come for us all but the one thing for sure is time nor tide wait for no man. I’m taking mine at 62 no matter what!
You are 100% correct. ❤
I am thinking seriously about your comments it is the reality you make a lot of sense
And the government knows you won't much past 65
Looking what I have to endure till I turn 62 working.3 years to go gives me hope.my health,sanity and freedom Is important.
Get it ASAP! Do not wait! How do you know if you’ll make it to 63?! It’s your money, get it now or the government will!
I'm 46 and will get it ASAP. Screw mandatory overtime while driving through a foot of snow.
It is not just the money. You receive your mental health as a bonus.
Very true! Like I say, it is a very personal decision.
If you are working in a high stress job, physically or mentally then opt to take it earlier. The job will take its toll in what’s left of your life. Big consideration in the planning process.
I work on. A high stress job I. Am 58 And have stage 3 kidney disease and I am not waiting. I want mine. At 62 believe it. Or not I would get more on disability right now than social security at age 62.
Very well said for many of us thank you
Nurse here. I’m for sure taking mine at 62. The stressful nature of my job is the reason.
@@marshadavis260apply for disability as soon as you can…
@@marshadavis260 Yep. I had stage 3 colon cancer, and I am currently in remission. I would get more from disability right now than social security at age 62. But I can't get disability because I can still work at my job. I might not even make it to 62, because 6 years is a long time to struggle.
I have read recently that only about 9% of people wait until 70 to start claiming SS. If we all knew how many years we are going to live, it might make the decision on when to claim easier.
Well I got mine at age 62 , because I had a stroke. As a truck driver, I couldn’t renew my license. I almost lost everything I worked for all my life. My private health insurance stopped paying for my treatment, even my therapy, I had to bypassed.; therefore, I think it’s all depends on the individual.
I hope you stay healthy and enjoy your retirement.
Sorry to hear of your health issues… I’m a truck driver too… tough life .
I think you made the right choice. I had a stroke at 62, major disabilities still. As a knowledge worker, i can still think, speak, type with one hand. I kept working until 70. And generate social security income of about 55K per year just under the max amount. In my mind, your circumstances make perfect sense. For me i wanted to make sure i could pay for long term care and provide my wife a higher survivor benefit. We are all running out of runway. Best wishes for your health and happiness. Tim
This presentation is not one sided, but thoroughly addresses a broad array of mostly unknown factors. Well done.
Filing at 63 1/2. Will work a seasonal job (6 months) for the $21,000 earning limit. For the other (6 months) there will be a sign on the door (GONE FISHING, GARDENING, MOTORCYCLING , VACATION). Life is short, if you wait too long to retire you just might not be able to do the things you want to do.
🤔🧐 The old saying (time is money). Yes, I believe it, the question we need to ask ourselves is: How much is 5 years of your life worth? Too me it’s worth a fortune 😉😇😎
Remember you also have a monthly earnings to worry about $1770.
@@Satjr35031 🧐🤔 Thought it was based on a yearly basis. Does not matter if you earn it in 1 day or 365 days. It is Yearly.
If your on SSDI, then your limited to a monthly earnings cap.
This is my understanding, could be wrong.
Thanks for the heads up, I will seek professional advice on the $21,000 earning monthly limits, if there is one.
@@bluecollarmarkit is also my understanding that the earnings cap is based on annual income of $21,240 for 2023, and it doesn't matter if it takes someone 6 days, 6 months or 12 months to reach that cap.
Why do you think they have a monthly earnings test Check it out
@Satjr35031 I will. I am not planning on collecting SS until sometime in 2025, so I have time to look into this.
Thanks Lane, your videos are clear and always excellent.
What most people don't factor into the break even calculations is the compounding interest you could earn on the early SS benefit payments as long as you don't need that money to live off of. Investing all of those SS payments from 62 to 70 would earn a good chunk of interest over those 8 years. It could potentially make up for a lot of the early collection benefit reduction. Not to mention you would have readily available money building up for any unexpected expenses during that time. If you wait to collect, you'd have zero rainy day funds from your SS benefits.
OK, let's do that. Let's say "you" are the takes at 62 example and "I" am the takes at 70.
FYI...I did these computations for myself...not to debate the point. I'm trying to decide too and you posed valid questions. It's a complicated thing to compute apples to apples. I made mistakes a couple times and had to redo the numbers. Not 100% they're right. This exercise has given me a new perspective. Making me rethink waiting until 70, but I personally have other factors to consider, so will likely continue to wait.
At 70 you banked all SS at 5% and now have a $187k reserve, mine is $0.
At 70 you're getting $1837/mo and I'm getting $3235. We're trying to compare apples to apples right? So you have an $1837 lifestyle, so I should too. That leaves me with $1398/mo extra which I can bank and I can earn 5% on while you can't because now we're both spending $1837/mo.
At 75 your reserve is $239k and mine is $97k.
At 85 your reserve is $389k and mine is $380k.
At 95 your reserve is $633k and mine is $840k.
Once again the breakeven looks to be near 85. Seems every way I look at SS numbers the breakeven is always about 85.
My life expectancy using current health data is 91 with a 25% chance of reaching 96. I like numbers and science so I'm planning for 95.
Can a person actually get a 5% return? Don't know. I do know there's risk there. One thing I like about waiting until 70 is growing at about 8%.
Plus COLA is a pretty sweet perk too. It's a compounding COLA. We both get the same percentage increase but my dollar amount increases more because of COLA on all previous COLAs. Not a lot, but nice.
HOWEVER...the biggest factor by far is human nature. Can a person actually take at 62 and not spend a penny until 70? Such a person imo would, assuming no big Lottery win, likely be good with numbers, believe in science, be a disciplined spender and have their act together in general. Such a person could see the benefit of good health, realistic life expectancy and the benefits of waiting until 70 to take SS.
It’s not easy to wait to 70 let’s be honest. Especially in this inflation if you wait to full retirement age and work a decent paying part time job it can work.
This is a fallacy. This scenario has been analyzed ad nauseam over the years and the outcome of that analysis is always the same. Delaying SS is definitely the better choice, as long as you are able to support yourself or continue to work in the meantime and your life expectancy is beyond 80 (to be conservative). Investment returns are never garunteed and will fluctuate wildly over any 8 year period, but the SS increases are garunteed, as are the COLA increases on top of that. This is not complicated.
Dennis in theory you make a good argument. In reality, 40 years plus as a CPA, I've never seen a client, or known of anyone's client who is able to do this. Not saying it's impossible, but for most not realistic.
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Actually, I know several people that have been able to collect at 62 and bank their entire SS benefit. Typically, they have a spouse that is still working, a pension (or other retirement money), and/or a side hustle that covers their living expenses. One such person was very glad they collected at 62 because, at 67, they needed to use some of that banked money to help pay for expensive cancer treatments. Had they waited till 70 to collect, they would not have had any rainy day money reserved.
Amazing video, A friend of mine referred me to a financial adviser sometime ago and we got to talking about investment and money. I started investing with $150k and in the first 2 months, my portfolio was reading $274,800. Crazy right!, I decided to reinvest my profit and get more interesting. For over a year we have been working together making consistent profit just bought my second home 2 weeks ago and care for my family.
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Lookup with her name on the webpage.
@Gabrielyoung- You are welcome
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since our decision when to take SS benefits are rare (like 1 time ), you explaining the pro and con's ... thank you for your vid and helping explain the variables to ponder... your vid are great example of how youtube and internet makes it much easier to get info out to the public... thank you!!!!!
Take it as soon as possible. Numbers don’t tell the whole story. Spend while your quality of life to spend it. Wait till 70 and enjoy your gold plated casket. I took it at 62 and now 72. Trust me quality of life to spend it is better in your 60’s
Thank you Sir!! you really explained this to the tee and I already filed at 62 but VERY crystal clear info. Remember I'ts YOUR MONEY not theirs.
Nicely done thank you for your time and input.
Very clear explanation on when to start drawing benefits.
Great video! I’m thinking on retiring at 62 with a full union pension and social security! I can’t wait.
Thanks for the very informative presentation, I like your style!
Very good topic. Usually nobody talks about SS and not too many individual is knowledgeable. This is very informative discussion. Thank you.
Thanks Lane! Love your videos, very clear and detailed. The sweet spot really seems to be at your FRA but waiting to 70 is a bit of a gamble. My spouse is 5 years younger so for her benefit I am going to wait as long as possible. She also needs to build up her benefit as she was home for many years.
I’m in the same spot as you my wife 6 years younger,67 is beneficial for me cause she can catch me up till she turns 62 , she can collect out my ssi, ,,I thinking 1/2 way of FRA , 64 , but I quoted from my employer $1100 a month medical now , & it will increase 3 years from now , I’m 60 now 7 more years long time
@@jpaul4788educate yourself on spousal vs survivor benefits. They are completely different and have different rules. Spousal benefits are reduced for early claiming, they will not get 1/2 your PIA if they are too young.. For survivor benefits it depends. Unfortunately quite complex
If you keep working and claim earlier and don’t need the SS benefit for living expenses and invest it in growth mutual funds you can be way ahead instead of waiting until 70. I am doing this strategy after waiting until 68 and I’m very happy with the results.
Wonderful and informative video, as always!
Very informative. Thanks for doing this. Valuable information learned.
Very impactful, informative, and awesome graphics.
Your choice is based on necessity. My amount climbed $600 a month by waiting until age 70, which gave me a livable amount. I worked full time until turning 72, increasing my safety net while collecting.
Thank you so much for this video and this useful information. 😊
The best explanation on you tube thank you
Great clear educational video!
A lot to be aware of thanks for informing people
Thank you exelaint video explaining the differences early retirement and full retirement
Great information…Thanks a million !!!
Very informative, thank you !
Very articulate explanation of this subject
Thanks for clear explanation of the terms used and pros and cons of timing of the benefits.
If you accumulate your social security benefits from the age of 62 to 70 years, that's a considerable amount. I'll take social security benefits at the age of 62. Take into consideration a life span. You'll never when you'll pass away.
This is correct and the reason i took it at 62. You may not be here tomorrow.
Great job on the topic SS benefits
Take ssi at 62 as you need money in the first ten years (called go go year) . You will not need money at 80 as no go year coming❤
My daughter was born when I was 50. She’ll be 12 when I turn 62. She’ll be eligible to collect half my FRA amount or about $1800/mo for 6 years. It’s a no brainer to collect at 62 if you still have minor children.
Great video, very helpful
Thanks for the information.
A very good información. I am almost 64 and thinking about retiring. Thank you.
Great explanation !
I'm 61 and I wanted to wait until I am eligible for Medicare, which is 65. My breakeven point would then be higher than 79 and my family has a history of living into their 80's on average. It seems like a reasonable time for me, but it does depend on the job, etc. Thank you.
Excellent. Presentation
Great Analysis! Many people forget about the COLA!
Does it taste better than the old cola?
I saw the power of it at work as I had a higher base salary then others at work and when we got uniform % raise my base increased more than those with the lower base salary. Very powerful in the long run.
Great info, thanks
I’m waiting until FRA, a little less than three years from now, to make the decision to pack it in or keep working. After that I will take things in a year-by-year basis. My plan is 70, but we all know how plans go. In the meantime, I am trying to sock away 30-35% of my income; working from home is helping me with that rate.
Great Video! 😇
Hello I'm Retired At 62.
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Keep Up The Good Work Dude 😎👊
Retired at 55 with pension and medical. I'm 62 now, paid off mortgage and collecting social security. So far this is working fot me..
Who knows what the future will bring. I haven't touched my 401k .
@3:33. also, not included are taxes and the cost of medicare, which is taken off the top, you need to consider this when choosing a date when to retire...
Great tips
My life expectancy just based on age 67 and gender male is age 84.7. But using calculators with additional inputs like height, weight, diabetes, smoking is 91 with a 25% chance of reaching 96. I understand these are statistics, not fortune telling. But I think I prefer to plan for living to 96. If I pass today having not taken SS yet I won't regret it...I'll be dead and that solves the regret issue. If I live until 96 that's about 20 years of me kicking myself. Hoping I pass before 76 to be "right" isn't how I want to spend the next 10 years.
Not waiting until FRA. Going to turn on at 65 with Medicare activation. My break even point is just around 81 years old by claiming 2 years early. Going to get it and spend it. If I live into my late 80s or longer, will I need or even be able to use the "extra" money I would get by waiting? That's a big NO.
I am an ordained minister, age 62 (male), so these calcs (video) are "Me", however, what I am dealing with is more that spiritually, emotionally, socially, I will want to stay in ministry until physically I can't do it any longer. The $ is one thing, the "calling" is something totally different.
Thnx sir the info Godbless you,❤
Thank you Lane for many informative shows on SS money subject. I just watched the Wall Street Journal online live Q&A show about retirement today 8/15/23, when so many questions and worries about this subject came up. I am inclined to chime in to recommend your shows and website.
You are so sensible to state many times that SS is only a small part of financial planning for retirement. Moreover, IMHO retirement is about more than just money, and living well is even more important a subject for reflection than retirement and money. Hopefully this perspective would but SS worry in its proper small corner.
Good ifo by the way! I share your videos.
Keep working until you are 70 years old. You'll regret it when you can barely get out of bed at 75 if you make it that far. So you might have had a couple of years thinking you are still young. Congratulations. Now if you wait until you are 79, you are a fool because you think you will never die.
Suppose I can get out of bed just fine at 62 and- while maintaining a healthy and active lifestyle- can still get out of bed just fine until 70? I won't regret it if at 75, or 80, or 85, I can
barely get out of bed but knowing I exited the rat race and enjoyed life for the 8 years that I was able to do so.
You don’t wait till 79! At 79 you start pulling ahead. Certainly for a female that is highly likely since one half of women at 62 live past 84
As a married couple the wife can take benefits at 62 to start getting retirement and my husband will wait until he's 65. We don't know how long we will live. Not going to take a chance. Could get sick and die and never get anything.
Read my post re married couples
Yes......and if 1 dies their SS goes with them. Collect 1 at 62 and wait for the higher earner to collect their SS. At least you can get some of the SS b4 one or the other dies and the still living will get the higher SS.
I remember when a dollar equaled a foot of lumber. Then it became two dollars for a foot for same unchanged lumber.
You cannot measure anything with a dollar because its unit of size keeps shrinking.
I retired at 65 I worked all my life I'm going to enjoy what life I have left so when you make your decision you have to realize life is too short
I’m following the advice of my dad, who retired early. He told me to work for as long as you can. One of his problems was the stock market crashed in 2008 shortly after he retired, and he had to go back to work, for about 5 more years. My current goal is to retire in about 10 months at the age of 70 and never ever work again. Currently it’s projecting that I will have a net pay increase of about $1,500/month starting at age 70 over what I’m making now working. Better to make too much than not enough. Thanks dad.
We will definitely wait until 70 as we don't need SS now and we are still working part time at age 68 as we love our medical working fields. We also have good health in our backgrounds. This video helped seal our decision.
I’m taking mine upon eligibility 😊
Thank you for another great video. Looking forward to hearing about the former spousal benefits.
My ex-wife who is a partner in an accounting firm mentioned them after our divorce, but of course, she wouldn't go as far as to elaborate for me. ☹️
You don’t need to worry about it. You have no control over it, and it doesn’t change what you can receive in any way.
@@TennisPlyrMom as she is a partner in a reputable accounting firm, and would normally have no reason to go out of her way to help me, I will surely take her word over some rando on youtube.
I have a nice 401k and intend to collect Social from 62 until the RMD's kick in 10 years from now.
Thank you.
Thank you 🙏
The video discusses the critical decision-making process around when to start claiming Social Security benefits. It compares the benefits of claiming early at age 62 versus delaying until age 70, considering factors such as longevity, earnings limit, spousal benefits, taxation, and more.
Key points:
1. **Claiming Early vs. Delaying**: The video illustrates that claiming at 62 provides immediate benefits but at a lower monthly rate. Delaying until 70 almost doubles the monthly benefit but means several years without payments.
2. **Break-Even Point**: The video emphasizes the break-even point, where the total benefits received from claiming early or late become equal. In the example, this point is at age 79.
3. **Longevity Considerations**: If a person expects to live longer, delaying benefits may be more advantageous. Conversely, claiming early may be better if one expects a shorter lifespan.
4. **Marital Status**: Different scenarios are presented for married couples, both working or one dependent, which can affect the decision.
5. **Taxation and Earnings Limit**: These factors may also influence the decision, but they are not detailed in this video.
6. **Social Security Statement**: The video encourages viewers to check their Social Security statement for accuracy and to understand key numbers like the Primary Insurance Amount (PIA) and Full Retirement Age (FRA).
The most important idea in this video is the concept of the break-even point and how individual factors such as longevity, marital status, and working history can significantly influence the decision to claim Social Security benefits early or late.
I agree with the idea presented in the video. The break-even point is a crucial factor in deciding when to claim Social Security benefits. However, the video could have delved deeper into the complexities of taxation and the earnings limit, as these can also be significant factors in the decision-making process.
Thank You for a nice detailed and organized summarization of this video 👍.
I know Lane has covered the taxation limitations and implications on his previous videos, but the main point and takeaway for me is the “break even point”. 😊
thank you for the summary! He mentioned he put the link of the video below that covered taxation and earning limit, but I did not see it. I guess I can search for and find it . 😊
Thank You Lane!
You really helped me pinpoint a very crucial time factor by specifying the “break even point”.
Being 63 and feeling stress free is more important at this stage in my life, because I can enjoy retirement benefits now, travel with my current energy level and health, then doing so at the tired age of “79”.
The pivotal question that remains is what to do until I qualify for medicare insurance?
Medicare begins at 65 unless you don't want it to. I'm based on what I've heard from other people RUclips approximately 3 months before you turn 65 if you're planning on using Medicare, you should sign up for a Medigap supplement it's appropriate for you because you only have a window of time before and after your 65 to get that insurance without underwriting.
I'm 67, retired at 45. Haven't taken SS yet. I don't invest at all so my reportable income has been about $0 for 20 years. With Obamacare and Medicaid expansion my health insurance premium subsidy wasn't available, only option was Medicaid. Turns out I loved Medicaid more than any other insurance I've ever had. And it's $0 cost, $0 copay, $0 deductible. When I turned 65 I got Medicare with Medicaid so $0 cost stayed with Parts B and D. Now getting Medicare Advantage at $0 cost with some huge cool benefits like $5000/y dental.
Medicaid then qualified me for a free smartphone and plan (Lifeline) and recently free home internet (ACP).
These programs are based solely on reportable income...not wealth. Billionaires can be on Medicaid. So if you have the cash to fund your retirement from 63 to 65 you could keep reportable income below about $16k/yr and get Medicaid, phone, internet. Betcha better than your current health insurance. You do have to live in a Medicaid expansion state.
Appreciate your COLA analysis. I am disappointed at those undisciplined people who draw early. Your short briefing is one of the best I have seen.
Taking SS earlier doesn’t make you undisciplined.
That makes no sense. It is the same amount of money and more money claiming early until 80 years old. You can enjoy 7 young years or have extra money in the old years. Very few men make it past 83.
This is the best explanation I've seen thank you. I do have a question. I live in California and I'm 61. If I apply for ss retirement next year can still work full time?
The only thing that stops me from retiring at 62 is medical insurance.
Absolutely!
Absolutely! I need to wait for my wife (3 years younger) to obtain Medicare. We are debt free with a pension but her Krones disease would wipe us out financially if not for my company health insurance.
If you are self employed and filing taxes using software (e.g., TurboTax), does it figure out your social security taxes? What line on the tax form would show me my contribution?
it's great information though. esp for someone looking at that age approaching a lot closer now.
Simple answer 62!
I’m 64 I need to give it some serious thought you never know how much time you have
My mom was dead at 73.
Social Security is longevity insurance. Taking it early is a fast track way to find yourself in trouble later in life.
That depends on your situation. If you are planning on living primarily off of Social Security and have few other retirement assets, then yes, you absolutely need to delay. However if you have plenty of money saved, taking Social Security early allows you to withdraw less from your portfolio, giving you several extra years of compound growth.
@@SR-ob3wnExactly, it's shocking this is not mentioned more often.
@@pregan66 Furthermore, if the difference of $500 a month is going to make you or break you, you really should not be retiring yet.
Love your channel! If you don’t need the social security benefits due to current income but have a younger spouse who is a homemaker and under 18 children, would she have to wait until 67 to collect your benefits if you died?
Thank you for making this easy to understand. Futurists are suggesting that gen x and beyond could live into their 100s due to advances in medicine. Has the gov't made any rumblings about how they would adjust the system?
If you are able to work FT until 70, depending on the type of work, what's the toll on your health? Now you can afford a better assisted living facility! And what can you enjoy at 79? Longevity is only about being alive, surviving, but in what condition? Depends on the job you stay with, and if they will let you.
I filed at 63, starting last January, just for a contingency income in case something happens. Had no idea what was coming. Did some math. In July I began working half time because combined I would take home MORE than I did FT, Then in August, 10 days before I turned 64 I had cancer surgery and another a month later. It's gone, but requires chemotherapy for the rest of my life as prevention. During the surgical recoveries and the debilitating affects of the chemo, at least there is some income. Still working when I can, Amazon is very accommodating. Fortunately, also have VA, so the two surgeries and everything related has only cost me $410 out of pocket. Also have retirement funds I don't need to touch yet. I'm living now. See, you don't know what's coming.
FRA for me. I retired at 62 but was able to hold off.
Great analysis, however, one missing element from this analysis is what if you don’t need SS to live because you have earnings from savings and investments, yet you take it early and invest it? I understand this analysis is designed for the most but in my opinion, taking SS early makes more sense regardless of the circumstances because one bird in the hand is always better than 2 on the tree.
Will be taking mine at age 70 as I draw on my 401k and savings. My glass is half full and not focused on dying early.
If you have children, take social security so that your 401k money can be left to your kids.
@@heythave and use the governments $$$$ not your kids $$$
PIA actually means Pain in The Arse…..which is figuring this out. Financial advisors are all over the board on this. Some say collect as early as you can for a longer time versus waiting to get maximum benefits but collecting for a shorter period of time. If it all comes down to longevity, then we all need a crystal ball because no one knows how long they’ll live.
It still comes down to if you have poor health, financial need or if you are wealthy you take it right away.
@@anthonybatulis6516 in other words, no one knows. Lane certainly doesn’t.
Your PIA is listed on your mySSA account at your full retirement age.
@@Joe26003 yes, I get that. However, no one can ever definitively give you a “ best” time to take your benefits. However, if you’re still working, it’s best to wait since you don’t need the income. What he should have been clear about is for every year you wait past you full retirement age, you get an 8% increase in benefits until age 70,in which case there’s no reason not to start taking benefits.
One factor that needs to be considered is the money depleted from savings if you wait to take the benefit and the future earnings that money would achieve with compond interest at a modest rate of return.
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Its not only if you live past the break even, its also a consideration as far as survivor benefits, e.g. if you spouse lives longer and receives less on their social security, they would get extra benefit after your death as I understand it, at the full age 70 amount if that is when you started claiming. So any delay after FRA has additional survivor benefits to consider.
If I am dead at 80-85 then it makes no sense to wait anyway. If I break even at 80ish, but my corpse is cold, what good does that do me?
I’m turning 66-1/2 in may
I have a good job I’m going to take my SS and keep on working and hammering my 401k to the max
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