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it was fun but deffo made me question a lot of things. It seems americans view race more based on experience and "culture" rather than what race they actually are (genotype + phenotype). lol i dunno i think this is why there are a lot of "transracials" in the black community. I mean my mum is mixed and my dad is white, i have met many people like me who would STILL identify as black or biracial because their mixed parent identified as such. Its very confusing
Joselyn was arrogant in a funny way she didn’t over do it and you can tell she was making herself laugh too 😂 I love people who don’t take everything too serious
The way they let Josselyn be above Johnathon knowing damn well that's a lie. But also all of Ciara's blackness went straight to her heart because she speaking like a black queen. 👸🏾👑
I would like to see a middle ground on people who identify as black americans vs african americans. I think some people use these terms very specifically and I wonder what their reasons are for this
i feel like it should be migrant black americans and black americans so we can hear from carribeans and and africans and other diaspora members instead of just africans
This was interesting. Josslyns confidence and gaslighting to convince others in the group of her blackness was funny. It was interesting to finally see her results. I think she was very surprised by it. More of this bc our personal experiences, knowledge of the world and race truly affects our perception of others. Love these videos!
I personally found it more weird than funny. Like why is everyone so obsesses with being white or black. Aren't we passed that way of thinking? Be happy with whatever you are. If I found out I was 90% black tomorrow it wouldn't change who I am or how I treat people. I feel like Josselyn would have a mental breakdown if she found out she was mostly white.
Being black has nothing to do with genetics. Many people can have black genes and appear other race on the outside. Being black is a experience, a connection with your ancestors and heritage that you don't need to explain. It's tiring how people try to put everybody into blackness just because their father is black or because the one drop rule. It may makes sense in USA or South Africa, because of their stories with segregation and apartheid, but for the rest of the world, you have to look black in order to be one. Your own kind has to recognize you as their own.
@nnnatalie I guess she didn't see her skin color? She was at best in the middle for dark skin. I said it was weird that she was going to the extent of gaslighting people to stay in the "more black" section and she was trying to convince people. She couldn't accept being told they didn't think she was that black. And like I said, if i was perceived more black or more white I wouldn't take it personal. Both sides have beauty in them
I was confused on how they were ranking themselves because some mentioned cultural aspects but others brought up their family lineage but the scale was a DNA test. I think Josselyn had the family lineage but felt more “culturally” black than Jonathan based on mainstream media factors which was why she wanted to be ranked above him. Since they were going off of DNA though as the bottom line they should’ve put Jonathan above her no doubt.
Overalll.. that made it funnier cuz they was all confused too. Jubilee could’ve been more specific but it’s not being had them to figure out it out themselves
she didnt base it of media factors she straight said because of his eye color. biologically less melanin equal brighter eye colors so it was a valid reason
@@snailsrslow625 when did she add excessive info about herself or johnathan? she literally said his eye color what you said is not related to what i said or what the original statement said. im aware that she gaslit them, she said it herself obviously i wouldnt deny something she herself said.
This was like the easiest ranking episode ever like you can literally tell just by looking at them and knowing a few basic questions about their heritage 😂
ikr. Jubilee sometimes includes mixed people in videos about black people. Like ciarra is 20% black, she should be on a video about biracials. I also wish there was more darksinned people considering they are more common than lightskined people. And this is coming from someone who is lightskined.
I know I keep posting a lot but I just love this episode because it addresses colorism. Please do this again with Native American, Hispanics/Latinos and Asian ppl!!
@@elcastrogarcia lol that’s what would make it interesting. I guess if they were all Mexican they could compare Spanish and Aztec percentages. If anything, it’d be interesting if they included Hispanics/Latinos in the “who’s the most White” episode. I’d like to see what they come up with
@@elcastrogarcia quien se ve más indígena, no es muy difícil, pero debería ser en español / lenguas indígenas, y se complicaría mucho. Lo "latinoamericano", según concepción social ya es Centroamérica y América del sur. Son muchos idiomas, muchas culturas. Sería muy difícil ya que son bastante diferentes a como se lleva la gente negra. Mi tatara aburla era, ya no una aborigen en su plena cultura, pero si descendiente de estos y hablante de su idioma, el güaraní. Ella crió a mi papá que es mestizo entre negro e indígena. Pero por parte materna está mi abuela; ella era blanca, pero su mamá (mi bisabuela) era una mujer de pueblos nativos paraguayos, con una cultura muy pegada. Bueno, es definitiva casi imposible hacer un quien es más *nativo americano*, pero la mayoría de los latinoamericanos podemos decir con certeza que tenemos esa sangre indígena, y claramente por nuestros rasgos y color se ve de igual manera . Es muy complicado. Donde vivo incluso actualmente se mezcla el güaraní con el español, aunque esa es cosa más de gente no blanca. Vivo en Argentina, un país "blanco", pero en una provincia triple frontera, hay más diversidad que en otros lugares. Aunque ni tanta, sigue siendo un país ya mayoritariamente blanco.
idk how they would do Asian as a whole tbh, there's just way too many different ethnic backgrounds. Separately would be better eg East Asian, West Asian, Central Asian etc
Joselyn and Jonathan were hilarious their attitudes were very straightforward and high strong but in an appropriate way that comes off light hearted and funny
One thing that always confused me is this: the criteria that black people use to determine how “black” *ANOTHER* black person is, will often consist of the same exact black stereotypes that we would normally call a non-black person racist for assuming about us. Idk if I worded that properly but it’s somewhere in my head😅
@@matthewbartke4424 I don't think so. The whole point of the game is to go off of perception and then reveal what's the reality at the end. People do this in the other episodes as well. In the weight episode for example, towards the end, one of the ladies asks if she can talk about the program she's doing, and then she reveals the stomach reduction surgery she's planning to have, which gives everyone a better idea of where she should be in line. So Jubilee probably tells them not to be too specific at the start. If the guy said he had two white great grandparents from the beginning, it would ruin the point of the game.
He didn’t even say anything. The nod was the I told y’all so 😂😂😂. Also, I would be interested to know what test they took! I’ve thought about getting my DNA tested because my family has no idea how black we are. My mom is white, and my dad is black, but his great great grandmother may have been half-white based on pictures we’ve seen and family stories. Great episodes idea by jubilee. I like how they didn’t use insensitive or incorrect ways of picking who was the most black. I can’t tell you how many white people have claimed to be blacker than me based on how I talk and interact with people.
If you personaly take the test there is no way of knowing the results of other family members because you dont inherent 100% of both parents dna. If your dad was biracial and your mom was white you could be anywhere between 50% and 100% white.
@@Kitty4u that’s the interesting part I should be 50% 50% based on the fact my dad is black but his great grandmother had green eyes, wavy hair, and very fair skin. The results would be interesting nonetheless.
I definitely recommend doing it, if not for ancestry than for seeing health and medical information i.e. if you are a carrier for a certain congenital disease that you could pass for offspring, and it would be cool to see where you come from too
@@jomangeee9180 in Africa I'll put my hand to burn that the vast majority of the population is 99% black simply because there has not been that much mix other places around the world except maybe certain very specific Asian countries its a bit different
@@JadaKingdom971 I am African too, and there has been a lot of mixing with colonial occupations over the past century. Not to mention mixing through trade especially costal Eastern Africa. Also don't forget the great civilizations of Western Africa that ruled all the way to Spain in the middle ages. These DNA classifications must have a political backdrop.
Several of these people wouldn't be considered "black" if they went to South Africa or the UK. It'd be interesting to do a show on blackness with an international group.
The first three people would definitely be considered coloured, especially the woman with the white shirt. And even the woman with the dreadlocks might be considered coloured
@@saedm2359 They are yeah. The coloured race/ethnic category is generally a mix of people who are mixed race, of Khoisan descent, or some other POC immigrants
Yeah the mixed ones would be colored the Eritrean is East African so they’d just look at her like a foreigner or someone who is colored since she could pass for it the guys would be considered black
I think when discussing great grandparents being black they should really discuss the difference between those who identified as such and those who actually were. A lot of great grandparents were biracials (products of two mixed people getting together or straight up one black and one white parent getting together) but they identified as black.
People need to stop going off what they 'identify' and go off on facts. Culture has nothing to do with jow objectively black someone is. just ridiculous
I knew immediately that Serena was Eritrean or Ethiopian because I'm Somali and we kinda look alike. When you're black, people want you to be black black, like, have all the features and because I have lighter skin etc, I didn't really fit in with the very few black kids in my high school because they didn't consider me black which made me unsure about being black because what is "being black" in the first place? Some people think I'm black, others think I'm mixed, what I'm sure of, is that I'm 100% African and 100% Somali.
I think it’s because most Black/African ppl are dark skinned and light skin tends to be an indicator of mixed heritage. You might not be mixed but I’ve heard that ppl in Ethiopia and other parts of East Africa tend to have some Arab ancestry. I know that dark skinned ppl can be mixed too but I think generally darker skinned Africans are less mixed
Which is quite ironic because it's scientific that somalis possess their own ancient ethnic-gene (custhic) which has been around for more than thousands of years, since we originated from southern Ethiopia around 1000 b.c. the people who call us "mixed" have often more admixture in themselves lol.
@@angelmushahf those who have Arab admixture are the amhara's of Ethiopia, Ethiopia has a lot of tribes the oldest being the afar and ormos who just like somalis have custhic origins. Somalis tend to be dark skinned with sharp facial features and tall body proportions (similar to the afar tribe of Ethiopia) nothing like the arabs, while amhara's are short and mostly light skin with middle Eastern features. Unlike others East African tribes document A LOT of their heritage and history, if we did had Arab admixture we would be looking more like sudanese people or other north Africans.
@@cosydream9750 more admixture no, recent admixture yes. The connection the horn of africa and north east africa has to the middle east is ANCIENT! There was no "africa" as we know today. In ancient times to horn africa middle eastern NEIGHBOURS were more their people than say west africans or south african tribes and it makes sense. Point is that Horn africans for the most part are a distinct group of people because of their ANCIENT connection and mix with middle eastern groups. Also i dont think you would have been considered "mixed" in ancient times because they would have had a different idea on "race" and who is or isnt the same race as them. People only consider you mixed today because we view and define race much much differently today.
I would LOVE to see a "how African are you" version of this! Like Africa the continent. I feel like a lot of ppl forget that we come in a lot of different shapes and colors! For example, North Africans keep getting called white by black ppl, and white ppl keep thinking Africa ONLY consists of black ppl. A DNA video with this would be so fun to see
But most people in North Africa aren't actually North Africans. North African indigenous are a minority in North Africa today. Most North Africans have more Middle Eastern DNA than North African DNA which is not the case for the rest of the continent.
Yeah if u look white we’re obviously going to say white, Wht do want us to call them plus majority in some of those countries descend from the Middle East so we’re not really wrong. Tht doesn’t take away the fact they’re African even thought some of them hate being called tht but tht doesn’t change the fact they’re genetically from the Middle East(white)
@@soft-spun huh wht? East Africans are not less of Africans, the first human is said to be from east Africa so the nonsense East Africans are less African is an insult to our history. And also to the people who say East Africans specifically horn of Africans have white features, stop saying tht, they have our feature not the other way around.
@@Noname-cu4dx White = Caucasian. Not everything is about skincolour. Hair texture, nose shape, eyes etc all play a huge role in your race. Most asians are way more pale than North Africans, but you would still consider them POC? So why would y'all call us white? I'm still darker than every white person in my country. I have NOT gone through racism all my life just to be called "white" lol. I wish.
@@lawtraf8008 I totally get that! But even the middle east is a part of both Africa and Asia (it's spread, as u probably know). So we would still be POC, and not caucasian.
Being of Louisiana Creole descent and darker this just makes me laugh. Skin color doesn’t always determine European descent. I’m dark and I am about 53% European descent. Lol culturally I’m black and so are my experiences
@@katiedidd7825 I realize that after me and all my friends took DNA test. The one with the darkest skin and kinkiest hair was like 20% less African than the one with the lightest skin and loser curls. You never know what you will get with the test but it’s very insightful.
I’m a lighter skinned black person with 3 black grandparents and 1 not black… and The whole time I was judging Wayne’s blackness off his skin tone, and thinking he was the most or second most black percentage wise, and he ended up being the exact same percentage as me 😂 67%
I laughed because I’m 29% black (biracial mom with a biracial grandma and one black grandfather) and Ciara is less black than I am but I look way whiter 🤣
HONESTLY THERE IS NO BLACK DNA. many people in central America, Nepal, Australia and Europe are BLACK. =============> THEY USE "EUROPEAN DNA" TO determined whiteness. but whiteess is Central Asia. Swarty Europeans are the native. BLACK EUROPEANS CAME ON THE MAYFLOWER. this is why scientist keep saying the comerical DNA is just entertainment it not facts. >>>> testing the land were people are now, is NOT VALID >>> ------------ you cant test native gene, you cant even test who is native Tazmanian in Australia because the core sample is gone if humans had no legs and stay put: testing DNA by landmass will be valid.
On my father side i have a black grandpa and a biracial grandma and on my mother side i have a black grandma and a biracial grandpa. So is my percentage technically 67% as well?
Honestly, I think mixed people should have their own category. Doesn’t mean they can’t embrace their Black side, but I think they should be recognized as mixed on the census bureau and applications, stuff like that
@@karmicobsession1636 African Americans know that they have mixed ancestry because of slavery, but that’s different than two interracial consenting adults having a biracial child. Those 2 girls weren’t even half Black, but somehow White ppl won’t accept them as White. I think it would absolutely work if ppl used common sense and decided to be honest about their lineage
I am biracial and I would never put myself in being black category because I am not black. I recognize that I do have certain privileges and that the things I go through are not the same as someone who is black. Saying I am black is an insult to the people who are. If you are mixed, if you have a black parent but also a different race parent (white, asian, etc) then you are mixed. Period point blank.
@@ms.tinygiant you're not fully black but you are still categorized and treated as a black person. how many americans are by your logic black? only people that are from africa africa are truly 100% ethnically black.
@@Supraifyification I agree but are you fine with biracial people with very light skin complexion, light eyes and curly hair or that look more on the white side saying they are black? I don't think that is fair. I see the privileges we have and I think it's disrespectful for even me to say I am black. I always just say I am biracial.
@@Supraifyification Not saying biracial is better to be but in a society that is still racist, I don't agree with trying to act like I go through the same situations as others who are darker skin toned, etc. That just wouldnt be fair
I was skeptical of the tall lighter skin guy. I have a feeling that his parents are biracial and just call themselves Black. I would consider him to be mixed, I mean 56%? He’s basically half Black.
Totally get where you're coming from. I'm just thinking about it this way---with more than half of his DNA being Black, it's already the majority than whatever else he's mixed with.
I’m 55% African but I look fully Black. Are you trying to say I’m biracial? Biracial means you have two parents of different races. He’s mixed not biracial cuz both of his parents are mixed Black people. There are many Black people who are mixed bc of slavery and colonialism.
Btw both of my parents are Black/CapeVerdean/African who happen to be mixed bc of our history of slavery but are still both brown skinned but I’m 1% less African than him.
@@sonrisaverdean757 biracials can be darker skinned. I think ppl downplay their mixed heritage a lot. Or they completely ignore it. You probably have a lot of biracial/mixed heritage other than slavery.
@@soft-spun Which ethnic group was having those genes? and how large was the study. You are spewing out information without understanding it. They are over a hundred different tribes in ethiopia and somalia alone. If you look into somali dna. There is more west african bantu dna than arab. With the majority being semitic somali. The same goes for most tribes in ethiopia. White people just dont understand the diversity in africa, and when they study them, just like with the iq tests. They come to wrong conclusions. Africa is the most diverse continent in the world genetically. And most tribes have been isolated from each other.
Skin tone imo plays the biggest role in who seems "blacker" than others. The darker you are the more you are assumed to be of majority African ancestry. I actually thought Jocelyn should have been in the middle because of her skin tone.
as a black african woman this entire concept is so bizarre to me... what does being "black" even truly mean? black isn't a "race", and neither is white. they're social constructs. the concept of "race" in itself is so fuzzy and has more to do with social hierarchy than actual science or genetics. there are so many genetic and cultural differences that would separate people who are african, caribbean, black british, african american etc... yet if you put all these different kinds of people in one room they'll all be labeled as just "black" because of their skin tone, even though they are not the same. and one thing that annoys is me is that many times, "cultural" aspects that are supposed to define blackness are so american. i'm african, i'm "black", but i don't speak AAVE (because i'm not american! most of my relatives don't even speak english), i'm not into hip hop, and i haven't been through the experiences that most african americans or other "black" american people have lived through. i just don't understand what this is meant to prove...
It’s literally a social experiment….the channel is full of them. They are meant to be bizarre and push the boundaries. Blackness shouldn’t be measurable but in this society, it does. They’re just exploring that concept. I think that’s really it.
I remember having a friend telling me was more black than me. I am darker skinners than her, she goes out to all black parties, is like a stereotypical dance hall queen. She called me on my blackness and said she was more west Indian than me.I asked her about Jamaican culture national dish, influential Jamaican and Western inventors pioneers the type of things about Jamaican your only gonns learn in school in Jamaica or have to go out and research. She couldn't answer I told her she was a meme and keep it moving. The minute someone goes out of their way to say they are blacker than you they have shown how insecure they are. Remember a white person who is born in a black neighbourhood or a black dominated country is still white. Their culture might say different.
I am pretty disturbed by the ethnocentric views of the american black community. i get that it's culture, but they are borderline segregating themselves socially from other people. imagine if this video was about people of mostly european descent being as proud about it, imagine the fallback. i think there's a long way to actual equality in america, in all directions.
@@lleeexx well cause America has a long history of treating black Americans different. Other countries just shut it down or denies it. Its different in America. You said it seems like they are segregating themselves when segregation was a thing for more than 400 years
This was very interesting. I recently did a DNA test and my results are 97.00% African. I was surprised because all I knew of family was that both sides came to the North from Georgia.
@@UsulPrincess Hi. I was very surprised. I had always believed became of our history that I would have a higher percentage of European DNA. Even my mom was surprised.
@@MrSuperAntz Hello. I don’t know. What know is that my father and his siblings was born in Georgia and my mother’s family came from Georgia. They never spoke about knowing another language or history.
Then they should reverse the result though, because in California, the ones who claim are the least “racist” happen to be the most prejudiced people. 🥺🥵
Josselyn and Wayne were the two biggest surprises. I thought that Josselyn would have been less black but Wayne more. Josselyn's tom-boy confidence was refreshing. Whereas Bryanna's impression of herself was the most inaccurate, Wayne's complexion threw me for a loop.
@@timmyturner8724 Afro Caribbeans have the same history as U.S Blacks, you part of the race like the African brotha but not directly part of the U.S Black history.
@@pietrycranberry6621 but not every Caribbean island identifies their people the same as Americans. In a lot of islands black and mixed people have their own separate identifies
So happy y'all didn't leave us hanging with the top 2!! I think Josselyn and Jonathan were focused more on coming across as being black according to stereotype and forgot that the ranking was based on DNA
If they’re using a blood quantum (DNA test) to determine blackness, doesn’t having biracial people in the mix defeat the purpose since you already know off the bat they won’t have as high amounts? 🤔
Let me put this in a more understandable way. These people all identify as black or of black descent. The producers don’t already know their genetic makeup, so they give them a test so they can have a genetic reveal and show it to them to reveal info about their perceived ideals of what blackness is. The genetic results are a surprise to EVERYONE, including the producers. It doesn’t make sense to already weed out the least black ones bc one, it’s a scale of least to most, and two, because doing so would go against the point of the experiment.
Like honestly I would of just put people darker than me ahead or ask about backgrounds of whether your parents were mixed cause my grandfather from my mother's side was biracial so I know I wouldn't put myself ahead
Yeah, I think this is ranking on being African American not black. Black culture imo doesn't exist because that culture is vastly different in each culture you look: Kenyan black culture will not be the same as British black culture. This was clearly an African American ranking, referencing AAVE and proposed African American cuisine. But, the "real answers" they gave afterwards doesn't make sense with the rest of the video: they should have used the same criteria for their own answers and the real answers whether that's DNA or culture. I also wonder if they were to do a European American version if they'd count someone with 20% white DNA and 80% other as white, like they did here with black DNA.
@@pavneet2214 well black culture does exist as it’s the catch all phrase for black people in America. What you describe as “Kenyan black culture” I think most people (or maybe just Black Americans) would just call Kenyan culture. Black is more so a catch all because of the traceability of our heritages being erased. You could say it’s the same as African American culture but we don’t really call it that colloquially.
Omg this is an AMERICAN channel! So obviously these experiments will cater towards African-Americans. If this was a South African or Nigerian channel, we would expect it to only cater to those ethnicities and no one would question it. But, since it’s centered around Americans, it’s such a problem and getting unnecessary hate. Smh. The makeup of the African-American DNA is very different from other black ethnicities/nationalities due to slavery. And most of us (unfairly and to no fault of our own) have no idea where we originate from. So, let them have fun. Stop it!
if the Eritrean girl, Serena, wasn't part of the mix, I know for a fact Josselyn would've put herself in the number one spot lol. Although she was kind of looking at DNA and ancestry, she mostly just felt like the most culturally Black person there and gave herself credit based on that. Like, Johnathan was clearly more Black than her the whole time, and it felt like him being more meek and not using slang and stuff made her doubt him. On the other hand, Wayne straight up having white great grandparents and being more brown than Joselyn just goes to show you can't think skin tone is always the answer. Lastly, I get why they focused on lighter-skinned and multi/bi-racial Black people, but I wanted to see where DNA could be misleading for more dark skinned Black people too.
For a more in depth exploration of this topic, I highly recommend Khadija Mbowe's video on theory of racelessness and Joulezy's video on the problem w/ the black immigrant. The problem is people of color are defined by non-whiteness where whiteness is considered the default. The truth is race itself does not exist. The only reason it is relevant is because people still think within the concept that race is a valid category for a human being. It is not.
Jubilee and friends, I appreciate you guys for taking the time to make a video like this! It created the space to actually talk about "Blackness" in a tangible way. That being said, I wished the participants would've delved deeper into the topic and not have kept it so surface level. There are so many factors that make a person black and not all of it is dependent on genetics and how melanated you are. While that is a major factor it is not the only significant one. I think delving into where and how one feels the most comfortable (environment wise) and who they resonate with the most when it comes to present day as well as historically are indicative. The number one person, Serena, brought up the fact that both her parents being from "Eritrea" was significant enough to keep her at number one. My counterpoint and what I wished one of the other participants had brought up, is that we (African Americans) do not have that luxury. Due to the slave trade (that lasted for hundreds of years) a lot of black people were dispelled from cultures and communities and interspersed among people that didn't want us and forcibly tried to erase us. Even if we took a DNA test or tried to follow a family tree as far back as it would go, we will never be able to know for sure where we came from and what tribe was (or is) linked to us. So while her point is significant it should not have been the deciding factor because the playing field for that is not level and just because we don't know where we came from specifically, it doesn't make us any less black. Another aspect that was touched on but not thoroughly discussed is skin tone. What a lot of people don't know or seem to want to believe is that black people are capable of having children that look like just about every race (skin tone, hair texture, eye color, body type, etc.) without directly breeding with said look-a-like race. In fact, historically, that was the case before interbreeding became normalized (and in some cases fetishized) to have children that were physical outliers and did not look both parents or other immediate members of the family. It should also be noted that we seem to be the only race capable of that phenomenon. I don't know if it's because we are capable of holding so much history within our DNA that certain traits and characteristics are able to jump, skip and span generations for a specific reason or if it's just happenstance but there are definitely multiple occasions where this anomaly has taken place. No other race (that I'm aware of) has this particular capability. So for that reason I would not have automatically assumed that they were the least "black" because of their skin tone. Overall, while it was a great discussion and a nice video I do believe that the mark was missed and would love a part two where individuals are open to this kind of dialogue and expound on why we think and act the way we do because even that would expand on the subject.
I think this just goes to show how beautifully complex being black actually is. Even just ranking off of DNA leaves a lot on the table and I think that's why Joselyn was coming at Jonathan so hard lol As someone who has had their blackness questioned based on the way they speak I'm pretty sure that's what it was. That being said, I'm actually glad we live in a world where "Blackness" is finally being shown for it's nuances and how expansive it can be
nah, this just goes to show how delusional or insecure some people are to be claiming people who literally are not black. Y’all need to get out the one drop rule Chokehold lol
It’s very diverse. Black people that have descended from different African tribes can be completely genetically distant and can have more genetic similarities with Asian or White people.
That was really interesting. I want to see Asians/Asian-Americans do this next because as an Asian American I want to compare and contrast to them. But I know for a fact I’d be on the lesser scale of “authentic Asian.”
Well, yeah. Asian-Americans might as well not even be Asian at all if you’re comparing them to legitimate full Asians born and raised in an Asian country aside from Japan (Japanese people are so obsessed with Western culture that they’re almost more American than actual Americans lol). It would be akin to comparing a super conservative adult against someone like...Charli D’amelio.
And how will they determine who is more Asian? Will they just look at say an Iranian guy and just assume he isn't Asian because he isn't from the east? I think with Asia it should really be narrowed down e.g. who is the most south Asian. Or who is the most east Asian? Asia is more racially diverse than Africa
I wanna see that video. Cause it’ll definitely be confusing cause I feel like the term Asian is very broad. Like technical an Indian, a Persian and a Japanese person are all “Asian.” Regardless of skin color, religion and distinct local cultures. It would have to be a very western-based video
1:49 AAVE has no impact on one's ability to be well spoken. It's simply a dialect. Most people who speak AAVE also speak Standard American English. 3:20 That's the issue with the one drop rule.
I agree it doesn't determine how well they can speak, but they have to understand in a professional setting you can't say "wussup bruh how you doing G" and expect to be taken seriously. I think we need to stop telling black people "you speak white" when they speak proper. Speaking properly can be for everyone
In regards to the one drop rule, genetics is not as cut and dry as people make it out to be. His parents could be genetically 80 percent African and appear phenotypically full black, but he simply inherited that 20 percent from each of his parents. So if both his parents appear full black then how could he be expected to know genetically he is biracial without taking a dna test? So that’s why I think identity should just come down to ethnicity. Ethnically, he’s black/African American since that’s the culture he grew up in and that’s what his parents clearly identify as.
@@DD-rh2sz The only reason some dialects are taken more seriously than others is because of racism. I support using a standardized dialect in formal situations, but I do not agree that a standard dialect has qualities that are inherently better. You've used the phrasing "speak proper" which is funny because in Standard American English someone would be flamed for using that adjective instead of the adverb counterpart. What you wrote communicates your idea perfectly though, and someone would be a fool to take you less seriously because of that though. Anyway, statistically 80% of Black Americans who speak AAVE also speak Standard American English dialect so this is a nonissue for most of us.
@@lex5377 Most Black Americans (ethnicity) can trace their lineage beyond their biological parents, and most people have a general understanding of what the enslaved Africans that were brought over here looked like, so it should not surprise a person with a certain phenotype that they are more likely to come from a more mixed lineage. That's not even taking into account that most Black Americans are mixed themselves due to consequences from slavery. Most are about a fifth to a quarter mixed with "*White." As far as the rest of your comment, it's hard to say identity should just come down to ethnicity when certain ethnic groups are tied to certain phenotypes. That can be a part of cultures as well. I think as long as colorism still exists worldwide, unfortunately people will be so focused on skin color etc.
@@courtr1588 It is a non-issue. But also needs to be recognized that slang is not professional. Just like swearing. It has nothing to do with racism. If you want a job in France you better speak French. A job in Japan-Japanese. A job in the USA- English, although I bet USA has the most workers that can't even speak the language of the country, not something you will find in other countries very often. I appreciate you calling out my grammar. On a RUclips forum it isn't expected to be perfect, but for sure if I was writing a University thesis or filling out a job application I wouldn't want to make those grammatical errors. And that was my point, nothing is wrong with AAVE, I use it myself, but I wouldn't wonder why I wasn't doing as well in school or work if I took that slang everywhere I went.
I want an episode of middle ground, Black vs Mixed. And I want the following prompts: I consider myself to be Black Colorism has affected me I don’t fit in with Black ppl I think mixed ppl have privilege Mixed ppl and Blk ppl are not the same I think you should also do fair skin vs Dark skin
"Mixed ppl and Blk ppl are not the same ", except for the young lady ranked first, everyone else is mixed. Also, all Africans are not the same, you can have mixed African ancestry.
@@ahkenaten522 no he’s mixed because he is mixed. There are light skinned Black ppl. He is not a light skinned black person. He looks like an ordinary mixed person
It's because the racist one drop rule from Jim Crow times is still prevalent in American society, they believe if a person has only 1 drop of non white ancestry, they are non white
Americans have this rare type of blindness that makes them oblivious to obvious racial differences lol. I think the issue stems from the one drop rule and considering anyone who has a spec of black in their lineage as a black person. That's what made the obviously mixed race people in this video overestimate their results.
Did they overestimate their result? All 3 of them went to the end immediately and weren’t that surprised with the results. They didn’t really try to move spots.
@@MsDudette21 - I mean, that’s how black people (who care so much about being black) view it. It’s all about your attitude and slang talk etc. otherwise you aren’t “black enough.”
It’s amazing how people assume because you have lighter eye color it doesn’t solidify you are black. I actually have light eyes and I got that gene from my father who is black, parents are black, and their parents are black. Let’s normalize variety in blackness.
They are all talking about how confident Josslyn is, while all I see is an insecure woman who is worried about how "black" (cultural black) she is perceived by others.
True she wasn't confident that she was higher up she was just pushy and persistent about it; kinda like other comments saying that there's this thing in the black communities of trying to compare/be the most black between them
I like the concept of the video but I would have liked to see a more diverse array of skin tones. I liked that many of the people in this video talked about and acknowledged colorism and how it impacted their loved ones, but I would have loved to see folks with deeper skin tones actually represented in the video. The experiences of dark skinned people are so important in particular when speaking of Blackness and the experience of being perceived in the world as very much so Black.
Isnt plastic bags a swedish invention that was made as an alternative to paper bags since they could be reused anyway. I know that the same goes in my household in Denmark, unless the bag is broken or something spilled in it, it goes in the drawer for reuse.
thats what happens when u think being black is a personality trait. if she is so obsessed with being black she should be obsessing over african cultures as well
But being black ain't just identifying as black its culture, it's understanding the plight and history of black people It's a lot more than just identifying bro
I loved the concept for this but was not in love with the cast, I would have preferred to see darker people and hear their perspectives, and would have enjoyed more discourse about the African American diasporas experience in multiple arenas including sexuality, music, culture, food, slavery and socioeconomic effects. This felt a little skewed towards the biracial/racially ambiguous.
Yes, I agree. I would’ve expected this to be an ALL black cast because it would’ve been more interesting to see their percentages opposed to biracial people who are literally 50% of another race. Like I think it kind of defeated the whole purpose when we already know they will have a larger percentage of non black dna.
No I’m happy they had a variety of skin tones. You can’t just have darker people in a video talking about blackness. When we all come in different shades
@@camxox6089 I enjoyed the diversity in skin color too, but I felt like there would have been more powerful discourse if there were black people with deeper skin tones, because they bring a different world view and lens. This episode felt geared towards racially ambiguous/bi-racial audience.
Love seeing light skin Black people with two Black parents. Recently, through media, it's so often understood that light skin Black people are "always" biracial
That’s false…he is only 56 percent black? So, how is he not mixed? Both parents are mixed. Multigenerational mixed is a real thing. I am disappointed that no one corrected him. Biracial people have been around for centuries…did he think that biracial people don’t have children? He has two mixed race parents…and genes don’t expire like food. You can come from a whole lineage of mixed race relatives.
I'm 67% like Wayne and I am darker than all of them, even the African woman. And I've seen 80%+ light skinned blacks. Being black is complex and we have an amazing culture. It shouldn't be a competition of who's blacker than who.
Exactly! It happens A LOT because Black ppl consider biracials to be “light skin Black”. I would consider Jocelyn to be light skin Black. That guy is biracial
It reminds me of this white dude with blonde hair and blue eyes in middle school telling everyone he's part black cause his mom is. I found her photo and that woman was definitely giving Megan Markle lol. Mixed and light skin are not interchangeable
Why is it that it is only expected for the black race to class biracials as fully blacks but other races make that distinction clearly. Its not an insult but its just the fact....biracial is not the same as black....those are two different races people....by now everyone should know this....one drop rule doesnt work in science🙄🙄🙄🙄
I agree and thankfully more people are waking up to this. Its ridiculous that people are really claiming halsey, wentworth miller, mariah carey, and Logic the rapper as black. The one drop rule is literally from a racist belief. Idk why people want to follow it.
The problem still is that black Americans are not fully black either . We are mixed as well. We may have more African in us but we are still majority mixed.
@@ifyouwantoreplyjustclickth5063 most black celebrities have a big % of European in them. People just want to claim them as black to beautify their success and claim it as black success let’s be honest here.
@@jaeminie5994 thats one of the reasons for sure and the issue with that is that it has lead erasure of black people getting roles, positive lead roles especially and recognition. Biracial people are getting passed off as black. I remember i asked a white guy to name black female celebrities that he thought we beautiful and he listed the usual (alicia keys, halle berry, mariah carey). I said no, list black, not biracial, and he couldnt think of any.
@@kyungy Bro im biracial. You need to chill. Ngl that’s kinda anti-black of you. And there are many Afro-Puertoricans. Did you forget about slavery??? It was also in PR. There are dark-skin PR.
would be interesting to get an an african immigrant or someone who grew up in africa and now lives in america ( and is black ) in this convo. bc myself as a black african immigrant, i do not relate at all to a lot of the african american experiences / get a long naturally with african american communities. would also be refreshing to see other kinds of black people in conversations about blackness.
Just out of curiosity why do African immigrants call themselves black, like you all have a whole country, language, and culture to identify with we black Americans have nothing but the color of our skin to identify us with because our country, language, was stolen from us for generations. Why not identify with what country your from?🤔
@@So1asola she says her mom and dad are Eritrean, not herself which means ( i could be wrong but just using context in the video ) she grew up in america for the most part and is only connected to her culture via her parents who immigrated (?). she doesn't self identify as Eritrean, she may not have grown up in Eritrea herself / be in touch with her culture. thus doesn't fit the category of african immigrant that i mentioned --her parents would. she grew up in america, and is as american as any other born and raised on american soil, with some cultural differences at home / life in general. her opinion and experience are very american. i mentioned interested in hearing the opinions of other kinds of black people, who just happen to live in america. so im talking about immigrants from all over the world, or people who live between america and another non-north american country.
@@mistybloom3 most children of immigrants in the west identify with their ‘parents’ culture. I can speak personally that many African America cultural clues she would not identify with because that’s not the culture she grew up around. However I do understand what you’re saying.
Same (I’m more like Halle Baileys complexion, though, but have fully Nigerian relatives as light as zendaya with light colored eyes). Would love to do this just to throw a wrench in people’s guesswork haha
What's super interesting is that brown sugar and plain noodles are an actual dessert here in Pakistan and I would think in India too so who knows, Josselyn might have some Indo-pak blood in her too XD
Depends where she lived, because in the late 1800s early 1900s South Asian men were coming to the U.S and not have South South Asian women they had Black American and Latina wives.
Nawl I wouldn’t say 74% because according to research the average African American is 75% black/African and those are the ones that have full black parents and grandparents. I would say 20% - 50%
Being 50 50 if very common and most likely out side of america,bc most biracials that arent from america have an african parent and they have 100 percent have 50 african blood,but since american lightskins have an african american parent they will def get some that 25 whiteness extra so non american lightskins have 50 percent blackness while american ones have mostly 40 percent blackness
@@օժօ Most biracial people in America that have one blk and one white parent normally be 30% - 50% blk. You will be able to tell when someone is 20% blk or Asian vs when someone is 20% white like the average non mixed African American. Jhene Aiko is only 25% Asian but she looks half. African and Asian genes are strong.
@@օժօ not to mention Jhene Aniko is just as much white as she is blk or Asian but all I see is the blk and Asian DNA. So her 25% Asian and 33% African is quite obvious compared to her 34% European.
My sister is a lot darker than me but has less African DNA than I do (we have different moms). She identifies as Afro-Latina and no one would question that. I consider myself mixed, but I don't feel comfortable calling myself Afro-Latina simply because of my appearance, I'm not perceived that way, I just look like a regular-shmegular Latina. My sister's husband is Black American with over 90% African DNA and he's the same skin tone as me with red kinky hair, my sister is darker than him. Blackness is diverse. Blackness is complex. And I think each person identifies with their culture and family history differently depending on their experiences and upbringing.
It’s true, I have 2 daughters & my light skin daughter is way more “Afrocentric” than my brown skin daughter 🥹 my brown skin daughter is very “Eurocentric” in regards to their taste in music, fashion, hairstyles & entertainment choices. It’s very interesting 🤔
This is so interesting because its posing the question of how can Blackness be defined, is it cultural or really just down to your Dna or a mix of both?
Jonathan nodding in satisfaction was so funny LMAOOO
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He was like “ I told you so “ 😭😭
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I am satisfied they use DNA.
Nowadays with this self-identification and more than 2 genders stuff science gets ignored.
Yeah fr I loved Jonathan. I'm surprised he didn't say anything tho
Idk about yall but this was the most chaotic and fun episode that jubilee has ever done the saltiness between Jonathan and joselyn was sooo funny
Yes i was grinning the entire time. This episode was full of life babbyyyy
it was fun but deffo made me question a lot of things. It seems americans view race more based on experience and "culture" rather than what race they actually are (genotype + phenotype). lol i dunno i think this is why there are a lot of "transracials" in the black community. I mean my mum is mixed and my dad is white, i have met many people like me who would STILL identify as black or biracial because their mixed parent identified as such. Its very confusing
Ikrr
They'd be great friends if they spent more time together lol
so funny = so annoying, apparently.
Johnathon was so happy! 😂 He was just itching to prove Josselyn wrong.
😂
She was trying so hard to prove him wrong too. They’re dynamic is funny
Me and him are around the same percentage, I'm about 1% higher though
Everyone knew she should have been in the 3rd or 4th position
The beef between Joselyn and Jonathan was immaculate😂
Fr
i was the 1k like
Can't believe Josselyn is dating Blue Face Ex girlfriend/baby mom, Jaidyn Alexis.
Josselyn is obviously a very insecure person, who can not handle facts
@@SundayBlues555 Joselyn dating Blue face ex? Is this true?
Joselyn was arrogant in a funny way she didn’t over do it and you can tell she was making herself laugh too 😂 I love people who don’t take everything too serious
nah it was annoying she was trying to over do it but didnt wanna seem too pushy but still tried too much
She’s hella smooth 🙈
Hella ignorant
the little interviews in between scenes is what made it funny to me. Just that little insight that she sees it kinda like a game.
I thought she was taking herself too serious
The way they let Josselyn be above Johnathon knowing damn well that's a lie. But also all of Ciara's blackness went straight to her heart because she speaking like a black queen. 👸🏾👑
U mean black king 😂
@@justingreenidge9684 excuse you?
@@justingreenidge9684 what?
@@ticiat5832 bih built like a power 5 runnin back
@@5kitz huh?
I would like to see a middle ground on people who identify as black americans vs african americans. I think some people use these terms very specifically and I wonder what their reasons are for this
Interesting idea!
Yes pls
YES
i feel like it should be migrant black americans and black americans so we can hear from carribeans and and africans and other diaspora members instead of just africans
YES YES YESSSS I HAVE BEEN SAYING THRIS OMGEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE OMGEEEEEE
The way Joselyn successfully gasliy her way to the number 2 spot....I wish I had her confidence 😂😂😂😂
Sad…
casting of BLACK PANTHER went down like this!
delusion=/=confidence and neither does gaslighting...
Josselyn had a channel is dating Blue Face Ex girlfriend/baby mom, Jaidyn Alexis.
Don't. Trust me people don't like it. I guarantee ppl stay away from her. She toxic
Y’all should do a video where people rank each other based on attractiveness with a mask vs without. Would be a great idea
That would be HILRIOUSSSS
@@addbackwards 😭😂
Yesss
Yesss please let that would be so cool
YESSSSS
This was interesting. Josslyns confidence and gaslighting to convince others in the group of her blackness was funny. It was interesting to finally see her results. I think she was very surprised by it.
More of this bc our personal experiences, knowledge of the world and race truly affects our perception of others. Love these videos!
Someone copied your comment word for word. Yikes.
damn someone copied ur comment
I personally found it more weird than funny. Like why is everyone so obsesses with being white or black. Aren't we passed that way of thinking? Be happy with whatever you are. If I found out I was 90% black tomorrow it wouldn't change who I am or how I treat people. I feel like Josselyn would have a mental breakdown if she found out she was mostly white.
Being black has nothing to do with genetics. Many people can have black genes and appear other race on the outside. Being black is a experience, a connection with your ancestors and heritage that you don't need to explain. It's tiring how people try to put everybody into blackness just because their father is black or because the one drop rule. It may makes sense in USA or South Africa, because of their stories with segregation and apartheid, but for the rest of the world, you have to look black in order to be one. Your own kind has to recognize you as their own.
@nnnatalie I guess she didn't see her skin color? She was at best in the middle for dark skin. I said it was weird that she was going to the extent of gaslighting people to stay in the "more black" section and she was trying to convince people. She couldn't accept being told they didn't think she was that black. And like I said, if i was perceived more black or more white I wouldn't take it personal. Both sides have beauty in them
I was confused on how they were ranking themselves because some mentioned cultural aspects but others brought up their family lineage but the scale was a DNA test. I think Josselyn had the family lineage but felt more “culturally” black than Jonathan based on mainstream media factors which was why she wanted to be ranked above him. Since they were going off of DNA though as the bottom line they should’ve put Jonathan above her no doubt.
Overalll.. that made it funnier cuz they was all confused too.
Jubilee could’ve been more specific but it’s not being had them to figure out it out themselves
Typical jubilee
exactlyyy
she didnt base it of media factors she straight said because of his eye color. biologically less melanin equal brighter eye colors so it was a valid reason
@@snailsrslow625 when did she add excessive info about herself or johnathan? she literally said his eye color what you said is not related to what i said or what the original statement said. im aware that she gaslit them, she said it herself obviously i wouldnt deny something she herself said.
Johnathan's face when they called out Josseleyn's results will never not be the best thing about this episode
This was like the easiest ranking episode ever like you can literally tell just by looking at them and knowing a few basic questions about their heritage 😂
Correct
It would have been interesting to do in blindfolded like they did for the weight one.
Exactly. Even white people can see it.
Depending on what company they used the Eritrean girl may have came up as less black in previous years.
@@dantan1249 the only way that would happen is if you use one of the smaller companies.
Straight off the cuff, this needed more darker-skinned Black people.
exactly
ikr. Jubilee sometimes includes mixed people in videos about black people. Like ciarra is 20% black, she should be on a video about biracials. I also wish there was more darksinned people considering they are more common than lightskined people. And this is coming from someone who is lightskined.
yeah and just all black ppl in general. I guess california has a lot of biracials but they could've done better.
the girl with straight hair should’ve been replaced by a darkskin black person.
@Ghostface_CODM no they arent black and. Ive seen indian and mexican and filipino people who look blacker than them.
I know I keep posting a lot but I just love this episode because it addresses colorism. Please do this again with Native American, Hispanics/Latinos and Asian ppl!!
And how would you determine "Who's the most Hispanic/Latino??"
@@elcastrogarcia lol that’s what would make it interesting. I guess if they were all Mexican they could compare Spanish and Aztec percentages. If anything, it’d be interesting if they included Hispanics/Latinos in the “who’s the most White” episode. I’d like to see what they come up with
The latino one may not work since it’s a cultural identity. How can that be determined by a dna test when latinos have various ancestries?
@@elcastrogarcia quien se ve más indígena, no es muy difícil, pero debería ser en español / lenguas indígenas, y se complicaría mucho. Lo "latinoamericano", según concepción social ya es Centroamérica y América del sur. Son muchos idiomas, muchas culturas. Sería muy difícil ya que son bastante diferentes a como se lleva la gente negra.
Mi tatara aburla era, ya no una aborigen en su plena cultura, pero si descendiente de estos y hablante de su idioma, el güaraní. Ella crió a mi papá que es mestizo entre negro e indígena. Pero por parte materna está mi abuela; ella era blanca, pero su mamá (mi bisabuela) era una mujer de pueblos nativos paraguayos, con una cultura muy pegada.
Bueno, es definitiva casi imposible hacer un quien es más *nativo americano*, pero la mayoría de los latinoamericanos podemos decir con certeza que tenemos esa sangre indígena, y claramente por nuestros rasgos y color se ve de igual manera . Es muy complicado. Donde vivo incluso actualmente se mezcla el güaraní con el español, aunque esa es cosa más de gente no blanca.
Vivo en Argentina, un país "blanco", pero en una provincia triple frontera, hay más diversidad que en otros lugares. Aunque ni tanta, sigue siendo un país ya mayoritariamente blanco.
idk how they would do Asian as a whole tbh, there's just way too many different ethnic backgrounds. Separately would be better eg East Asian, West Asian, Central Asian etc
Joselyn and Jonathan were hilarious their attitudes were very straightforward and high strong but in an appropriate way that comes off light hearted and funny
One thing that always confused me is this: the criteria that black people use to determine how “black” *ANOTHER* black person is, will often consist of the same exact black stereotypes that we would normally call a non-black person racist for assuming about us. Idk if I worded that properly but it’s somewhere in my head😅
like what?
yes thank you , i was thinking the same exact thing
I get what you're saying, as in some of us internalize the same stereotypes that we should know full well don't define us
yeah basically other people can’t stereotype us but we can stereotype ourselves, it’s weird
you worded it perfectly
Everyone’s reactions When he revealed he had 2 whole Caucasian great grandparents 😭
I find it interesting that he tried to hide that even though he knows what they were supposed to be doing.
Yeah, I was so surprised too.
@nnnatalie He's probably ashamed.
I was shocked again at 67% results 🤯 he really like 2/3 black
@@matthewbartke4424 I don't think so. The whole point of the game is to go off of perception and then reveal what's the reality at the end. People do this in the other episodes as well. In the weight episode for example, towards the end, one of the ladies asks if she can talk about the program she's doing, and then she reveals the stomach reduction surgery she's planning to have, which gives everyone a better idea of where she should be in line. So Jubilee probably tells them not to be too specific at the start. If the guy said he had two white great grandparents from the beginning, it would ruin the point of the game.
20% and she’s Black? The 1 drop rule is alive and well. 😂
Her mother must be dark skin mixed
20% is alot more than 1% I wouldn’t claim black if I was only 20% . I would like to see her full DNA results.
she's not black lmao. if youre 80% something else how tf are u black?
Im 25 % and I dont identify as black. lol that would make me transracial.
@@jzhvaeduh yeah thats what the comment was saying
Serena claimed her spot said Eritrea and no one tried to touch her.😂
@igobevaka7471 depending on the test, she.may actually be less african because almost half of theie DNA comes from Western Asia
@@MariE-bz2eq Eritreans are Eastern Africans, Afr0-Semitics. Her features are also extremely African.
@MariE-bz2eq
Where did you get this from? Some of them are mixed, but most aren't
He didn’t even say anything. The nod was the I told y’all so 😂😂😂. Also, I would be interested to know what test they took! I’ve thought about getting my DNA tested because my family has no idea how black we are. My mom is white, and my dad is black, but his great great grandmother may have been half-white based on pictures we’ve seen and family stories. Great episodes idea by jubilee. I like how they didn’t use insensitive or incorrect ways of picking who was the most black. I can’t tell you how many white people have claimed to be blacker than me based on how I talk and interact with people.
23andme is probably the most popular DNA test!
If you personaly take the test there is no way of knowing the results of other family members because you dont inherent 100% of both parents dna. If your dad was biracial and your mom was white you could be anywhere between 50% and 100% white.
@@Kitty4u that’s the interesting part I should be 50% 50% based on the fact my dad is black but his great grandmother had green eyes, wavy hair, and very fair skin. The results would be interesting nonetheless.
White people think they’re soooo funny when they say “I’m more black than you” because they speak slang 😭 shut the f up. Your dna is 101% white
I definitely recommend doing it, if not for ancestry than for seeing health and medical information i.e. if you are a carrier for a certain congenital disease that you could pass for offspring, and it would be cool to see where you come from too
It’s insane how close they got to DNA ranking when the majority of their questions were cultural. I was honestly mindblown
not really i think they were basing it off facial features
It's weird
I did not know you could be 99.8% anything
@@jomangeee9180 in Africa I'll put my hand to burn that the vast majority of the population is 99% black simply because there has not been that much mix other places around the world except maybe certain very specific Asian countries its a bit different
@@JadaKingdom971 I am African too, and there has been a lot of mixing with colonial occupations over the past century. Not to mention mixing through trade especially costal Eastern Africa. Also don't forget the great civilizations of Western Africa that ruled all the way to Spain in the middle ages. These DNA classifications must have a political backdrop.
I love Jonathon, I love everything he said in this discussion! I love his reaction to the results!
Johnathon
these people can be 80 percent european and 20 percent african and will still claim theyre black
20% is actually alot 😂😂😂 only goes up to 100%
What are they?💀
@@ahkenaten522 mixed
@@AlbertoMg-vh9wc with what?
true. 😂😂 if you arent atleast 50% then you aint black.
Several of these people wouldn't be considered "black" if they went to South Africa or the UK. It'd be interesting to do a show on blackness with an international group.
The first three people would definitely be considered coloured, especially the woman with the white shirt. And even the woman with the dreadlocks might be considered coloured
I heard that mixed race people are considered coloured in SA
Indeed, they dont look black
@@saedm2359 They are yeah. The coloured race/ethnic category is generally a mix of people who are mixed race, of Khoisan descent, or some other POC immigrants
Yeah the mixed ones would be colored the Eritrean is East African so they’d just look at her like a foreigner or someone who is colored since she could pass for it the guys would be considered black
I think when discussing great grandparents being black they should really discuss the difference between those who identified as such and those who actually were. A lot of great grandparents were biracials (products of two mixed people getting together or straight up one black and one white parent getting together) but they identified as black.
People need to stop going off what they 'identify' and go off on facts. Culture has nothing to do with jow objectively black someone is. just ridiculous
This!! I also think this isn’t something that should be kept from you if your grandparents were biracial but identified as black.
@@MsDudette21 and by how you look, basing on racial genetic heritage is kinda supremacist for me
Race is a social construct tho. Back in the days, those mixed ppl would be treated like they're black
And when those same mixed people found themselves in white communities they would say they were Native American.
I knew immediately that Serena was Eritrean or Ethiopian because I'm Somali and we kinda look alike. When you're black, people want you to be black black, like, have all the features and because I have lighter skin etc, I didn't really fit in with the very few black kids in my high school because they didn't consider me black which made me unsure about being black because what is "being black" in the first place? Some people think I'm black, others think I'm mixed, what I'm sure of, is that I'm 100% African and 100% Somali.
I think it’s because most Black/African ppl are dark skinned and light skin tends to be an indicator of mixed heritage. You might not be mixed but I’ve heard that ppl in Ethiopia and other parts of East Africa tend to have some Arab ancestry. I know that dark skinned ppl can be mixed too but I think generally darker skinned Africans are less mixed
Which is quite ironic because it's scientific that somalis possess their own ancient ethnic-gene (custhic) which has been around for more than thousands of years, since we originated from southern Ethiopia around 1000 b.c. the people who call us "mixed" have often more admixture in themselves lol.
@@angelmushahf those who have Arab admixture are the amhara's of Ethiopia, Ethiopia has a lot of tribes the oldest being the afar and ormos who just like somalis have custhic origins. Somalis tend to be dark skinned with sharp facial features and tall body proportions (similar to the afar tribe of Ethiopia) nothing like the arabs, while amhara's are short and mostly light skin with middle Eastern features. Unlike others East African tribes document A LOT of their heritage and history, if we did had Arab admixture we would be looking more like sudanese people or other north Africans.
@@cosydream9750 more admixture no, recent admixture yes. The connection the horn of africa and north east africa has to the middle east is ANCIENT! There was no "africa" as we know today. In ancient times to horn africa middle eastern NEIGHBOURS were more their people than say west africans or south african tribes and it makes sense. Point is that Horn africans for the most part are a distinct group of people because of their ANCIENT connection and mix with middle eastern groups. Also i dont think you would have been considered "mixed" in ancient times because they would have had a different idea on "race" and who is or isnt the same race as them. People only consider you mixed today because we view and define race much much differently today.
I felt she looked East African but I wasn't sure until she confirmed it.
I love how competitive Josselyn and Jonathan were. Great dynamic.
I would LOVE to see a "how African are you" version of this! Like Africa the continent. I feel like a lot of ppl forget that we come in a lot of different shapes and colors! For example, North Africans keep getting called white by black ppl, and white ppl keep thinking Africa ONLY consists of black ppl. A DNA video with this would be so fun to see
But most people in North Africa aren't actually North Africans. North African indigenous are a minority in North Africa today. Most North Africans have more Middle Eastern DNA than North African DNA which is not the case for the rest of the continent.
Yeah if u look white we’re obviously going to say white, Wht do want us to call them plus majority in some of those countries descend from the Middle East so we’re not really wrong. Tht doesn’t take away the fact they’re African even thought some of them hate being called tht but tht doesn’t change the fact they’re genetically from the Middle East(white)
@@soft-spun huh wht? East Africans are not less of Africans, the first human is said to be from east Africa so the nonsense East Africans are less African is an insult to our history. And also to the people who say East Africans specifically horn of Africans have white features, stop saying tht, they have our feature not the other way around.
@@Noname-cu4dx White = Caucasian. Not everything is about skincolour. Hair texture, nose shape, eyes etc all play a huge role in your race. Most asians are way more pale than North Africans, but you would still consider them POC? So why would y'all call us white? I'm still darker than every white person in my country. I have NOT gone through racism all my life just to be called "white" lol. I wish.
@@lawtraf8008 I totally get that! But even the middle east is a part of both Africa and Asia (it's spread, as u probably know). So we would still be POC, and not caucasian.
it’s the way everyone knew josselyn was after johnathon and they still let her rock LMAO likeee we could tell
All the ladies are so pretty!! Funny characters this episode. Josselyn was cracking me up the whole time 😂
Being of Louisiana Creole descent and darker this just makes me laugh. Skin color doesn’t always determine European descent. I’m dark and I am about 53% European descent. Lol culturally I’m black and so are my experiences
"Black" is not a culture, language, or anything else. It's just a color.
Did you take a DNA test for that percent? Look at your pfp I would have never guessed that tbh.
@@francishall9410you sound ridiculous
@@kaylao.3326 it’s actually very true.
@@katiedidd7825 I realize that after me and all my friends took DNA test. The one with the darkest skin and kinkiest hair was like 20% less African than the one with the lightest skin and loser curls. You never know what you will get with the test but it’s very insightful.
I’m a lighter skinned black person with 3 black grandparents and 1 not black… and The whole time I was judging Wayne’s blackness off his skin tone, and thinking he was the most or second most black percentage wise, and he ended up being the exact same percentage as me 😂 67%
I had him 4th and Joselyn 5th
I laughed because I’m 29% black (biracial mom with a biracial grandma and one black grandfather) and Ciara is less black than I am but I look way whiter 🤣
(So, did you LEARN yo lesson? Having so learned to KNOW better, have you been DOING better?)
HONESTLY THERE IS NO BLACK DNA.
many people in central America, Nepal, Australia and Europe are BLACK.
=============> THEY USE "EUROPEAN DNA" TO determined whiteness.
but whiteess is Central Asia. Swarty Europeans are the native.
BLACK EUROPEANS CAME ON THE MAYFLOWER.
this is why scientist keep saying the comerical DNA is just entertainment it not facts.
>>>> testing the land were people are now, is NOT VALID >>>
------------ you cant test native gene, you cant even test who is native Tazmanian in Australia because the core sample is gone
if humans had no legs and stay put: testing DNA by landmass will be valid.
On my father side i have a black grandpa and a biracial grandma and on my mother side i have a black grandma and a biracial grandpa.
So is my percentage technically 67% as well?
It would be fun to see this discussion for ‘who is the most white?’😅
The attempt to remain politically correct would make everyone quiet lol, kinda hate that about the world
gotta have ppl crying in the comments before even watching the vid
@@A2Lettuce Who’s crying?👀
@@korkor40 ‘who is the most white?’ if this video was posted
Lemme just head to the front of the line 🚶♀️
Honestly, I think mixed people should have their own category. Doesn’t mean they can’t embrace their Black side, but I think they should be recognized as mixed on the census bureau and applications, stuff like that
In South Africa, they actually identify as a different racial group. They're called 'Colored'.
most african americans are mixed. no matter how much they try to deny it
@@AfamOrji yes I’ve heard of that. In Korea…either Korea or Japan they are called hafu. I think the U.S should do the same
@@angelmushahf it wouldn’t work the same cause most african americans arent entirely black. creating some arbitrary cut off wouldn’t work
@@karmicobsession1636 African Americans know that they have mixed ancestry because of slavery, but that’s different than two interracial consenting adults having a biracial child. Those 2 girls weren’t even half Black, but somehow White ppl won’t accept them as White. I think it would absolutely work if ppl used common sense and decided to be honest about their lineage
I am biracial and I would never put myself in being black category because I am not black. I recognize that I do have certain privileges and that the things I go through are not the same as someone who is black. Saying I am black is an insult to the people who are. If you are mixed, if you have a black parent but also a different race parent (white, asian, etc) then you are mixed. Period point blank.
so with that logic only half the people in the vid are actually black?
@@Supraifyification I guess so. If you have white in you or you're black but with something else that isn't black.. you're not fully black.
@@ms.tinygiant you're not fully black but you are still categorized and treated as a black person. how many americans are by your logic black? only people that are from africa africa are truly 100% ethnically black.
@@Supraifyification I agree but are you fine with biracial people with very light skin complexion, light eyes and curly hair or that look more on the white side saying they are black? I don't think that is fair. I see the privileges we have and I think it's disrespectful for even me to say I am black. I always just say I am biracial.
@@Supraifyification Not saying biracial is better to be but in a society that is still racist, I don't agree with trying to act like I go through the same situations as others who are darker skin toned, etc. That just wouldnt be fair
This whole group was so funny and cute please I love their reasoning and Jonathan and joselyn’s little arguments made it even better 😂
I was skeptical of the tall lighter skin guy. I have a feeling that his parents are biracial and just call themselves Black. I would consider him to be mixed, I mean 56%? He’s basically half Black.
Totally get where you're coming from. I'm just thinking about it this way---with more than half of his DNA being Black, it's already the majority than whatever else he's mixed with.
I’m 55% African but I look fully Black. Are you trying to say I’m biracial? Biracial means you have two parents of different races. He’s mixed not biracial cuz both of his parents are mixed Black people. There are many Black people who are mixed bc of slavery and colonialism.
Btw both of my parents are Black/CapeVerdean/African who happen to be mixed bc of our history of slavery but are still both brown skinned but I’m 1% less African than him.
@@sonrisaverdean757 aren’t biracial and mixed two words that mean the same thing?
@@sonrisaverdean757 biracials can be darker skinned. I think ppl downplay their mixed heritage a lot. Or they completely ignore it. You probably have a lot of biracial/mixed heritage other than slavery.
I liked that they had an East African in here, most people deny our blackness because we have different features
fr and she ended up being almost full african
yesss! im fully eritrean and ngl the comments got to me and this gave me the confirmation i needed,, especialy bc i dont see much eritrean rep
@@soft-spun they are not mixed with nothing, if a somali or ethiopian sees this comment he/she will be upsettttt
Blackness? People hate blackness here. As a matter of fact it’s an insult to call someone black and you know it. Don’t just don’t.
@@soft-spun Which ethnic group was having those genes? and how large was the study. You are spewing out information without understanding it. They are over a hundred different tribes in ethiopia and somalia alone. If you look into somali dna. There is more west african bantu dna than arab. With the majority being semitic somali. The same goes for most tribes in ethiopia. White people just dont understand the diversity in africa, and when they study them, just like with the iq tests. They come to wrong conclusions. Africa is the most diverse continent in the world genetically. And most tribes have been isolated from each other.
Skin tone imo plays the biggest role in who seems "blacker" than others. The darker you are the more you are assumed to be of majority African ancestry. I actually thought Jocelyn should have been in the middle because of her skin tone.
Yeah, and it's ultimately your skin tone that a stranger sees, and determines how to treat you. Nobodies carrying around their genetic data with them
Obviously it is not the case! Lol
Obviously it is not the case! Lol
Obviously it is not the case! Lol
If you’re informed about genetics, then yes it would.
This is the most "we support the One-Drop rule video" on the internet.
Would y'all include half-Black people in a "Who's the most white" video?🤔🤔🤔
they probably would
My thoughts exactly. The world needs to let go of the moronic one drop rule.
and would they all be like "no I am more white" like Josselyn was in this video trying to convince everyone she was black lol
They should!
It’s a who’s the most black video and why can’t they include biracial people? Isn’t the whole point to get a spectrum of people?
as a black african woman this entire concept is so bizarre to me... what does being "black" even truly mean? black isn't a "race", and neither is white. they're social constructs. the concept of "race" in itself is so fuzzy and has more to do with social hierarchy than actual science or genetics. there are so many genetic and cultural differences that would separate people who are african, caribbean, black british, african american etc... yet if you put all these different kinds of people in one room they'll all be labeled as just "black" because of their skin tone, even though they are not the same. and one thing that annoys is me is that many times, "cultural" aspects that are supposed to define blackness are so american. i'm african, i'm "black", but i don't speak AAVE (because i'm not american! most of my relatives don't even speak english), i'm not into hip hop, and i haven't been through the experiences that most african americans or other "black" american people have lived through. i just don't understand what this is meant to prove...
Not to mention they’re basing this on who has the most African DNA, even tho not all of africa is black 😭
THIS!!
It’s like saying an Irishman is the same and an Englishman because of their skin. When in fact they despise each other.
It’s literally a social experiment….the channel is full of them. They are meant to be bizarre and push the boundaries. Blackness shouldn’t be measurable but in this society, it does. They’re just exploring that concept. I think that’s really it.
@@TiredAmerican247 no we don’t? 😂 I’ve lived in the UK my entire life and I’ve never met an English person who dislikes Irish people or vice versa 😭
I remember having a friend telling me was more black than me. I am darker skinners than her, she goes out to all black parties, is like a stereotypical dance hall queen. She called me on my blackness and said she was more west Indian than me.I asked her about Jamaican culture national dish, influential Jamaican and Western inventors pioneers the type of things about Jamaican your only gonns learn in school in Jamaica or have to go out and research. She couldn't answer I told her she was a meme and keep it moving. The minute someone goes out of their way to say they are blacker than you they have shown how insecure they are. Remember a white person who is born in a black neighbourhood or a black dominated country is still white. Their culture might say different.
I am pretty disturbed by the ethnocentric views of the american black community. i get that it's culture, but they are borderline segregating themselves socially from other people. imagine if this video was about people of mostly european descent being as proud about it, imagine the fallback. i think there's a long way to actual equality in america, in all directions.
@@lleeexx well cause America has a long history of treating black Americans different. Other countries just shut it down or denies it. Its different in America. You said it seems like they are segregating themselves when segregation was a thing for more than 400 years
I’m half white and Asian but most of my family is black. I grew up exclusively around black people
@うwう Speaking to lex is a waste of time. It write on a subject as if you're so sure, yet know jack, is just a person wasting people time.
why does not being able to answer those questions equivalent to how west indian you are
This was very interesting. I recently did a DNA test and my results are 97.00% African. I was surprised because all I knew of family was that both sides came to the North from Georgia.
Wow. 97% I'm impressed. It's hard finding a US black American over 90% (I'm 84%)
@@UsulPrincess Hi. I was very surprised. I had always believed became of our history that I would have a higher percentage of European DNA. Even my mom was surprised.
Are you geechi there almost full Africans who been here since slavery
@@MrSuperAntz Hello. I don’t know. What know is that my father and his siblings was born in Georgia and my mother’s family came from Georgia. They never spoke about knowing another language or history.
that’s a blessing fr
Crazy ideas and the production quality is amazingly inspiring for us creators … Thanks Jubilee 💯🔥
Juiblee next video: "Who is the most racist? | Strangers rank themselves"
The liberals would be falling over themselves to be No 1
Guy in video "I'm a proud member of the Klan" what about you guys?
That would be epic
😂
Then they should reverse the result though, because in California, the ones who claim are the least “racist” happen to be the most prejudiced people. 🥺🥵
"then we will do a dna test and compare the results" 💀💀💀💀
jocelyn was so set on being second but she was third 😂
thats what happens when u think race a is personality trait
@@MsDudette21 - Yepp. What a sad person. Truly.
I knew she wasn’t 2 🤣
Josselyn and Wayne were the two biggest surprises. I thought that Josselyn would have been less black but Wayne more. Josselyn's tom-boy confidence was refreshing. Whereas Bryanna's impression of herself was the most inaccurate, Wayne's complexion threw me for a loop.
As a black african, watching this was truly weird and confusing...
Can I ask why
As a Caribbean as well
@@timmyturner8724 Afro Caribbeans have the same history as U.S Blacks, you part of the race like the African brotha but not directly part of the U.S Black history.
@@pietrycranberry6621 but not every Caribbean island identifies their people the same as Americans. In a lot of islands black and mixed people have their own separate identifies
@@mimiad397 I wasn't referring to the mixed people but the African population.
So happy y'all didn't leave us hanging with the top 2!! I think Josselyn and Jonathan were focused more on coming across as being black according to stereotype and forgot that the ranking was based on DNA
Josselyn was 75% black. And Johnathan was 89%.
If they’re using a blood quantum (DNA test) to determine blackness, doesn’t having biracial people in the mix defeat the purpose since you already know off the bat they won’t have as high amounts? 🤔
it does but that's what happens when america still follows outdated racist rules aka the "one drop rule"
how to say you didn't had a bio class whithout actually saying it
Let me put this in a more understandable way. These people all identify as black or of black descent. The producers don’t already know their genetic makeup, so they give them a test so they can have a genetic reveal and show it to them to reveal info about their perceived ideals of what blackness is.
The genetic results are a surprise to EVERYONE, including the producers. It doesn’t make sense to already weed out the least black ones bc one, it’s a scale of least to most, and two, because doing so would go against the point of the experiment.
josselyn was fighting for her life to stay in the top 2😭😭
I really enjoyed this episode i was smiling from ear to ear the whole time
The difference between race as a social construct and genetic heritage and culture rlly confuses ppl sometimes 💀
Like honestly I would of just put people darker than me ahead or ask about backgrounds of whether your parents were mixed cause my grandfather from my mother's side was biracial so I know I wouldn't put myself ahead
Anytime someone says social construct, i laugh.
muh social construct
This is an American POV.
Yeah, I think this is ranking on being African American not black. Black culture imo doesn't exist because that culture is vastly different in each culture you look: Kenyan black culture will not be the same as British black culture. This was clearly an African American ranking, referencing AAVE and proposed African American cuisine. But, the "real answers" they gave afterwards doesn't make sense with the rest of the video: they should have used the same criteria for their own answers and the real answers whether that's DNA or culture. I also wonder if they were to do a European American version if they'd count someone with 20% white DNA and 80% other as white, like they did here with black DNA.
thank you for letting us know, sherlock..
the discussion between them was. the actual results arent cuz it's just based on objectivity.
@@pavneet2214 well black culture does exist as it’s the catch all phrase for black people in America. What you describe as “Kenyan black culture” I think most people (or maybe just Black Americans) would just call Kenyan culture. Black is more so a catch all because of the traceability of our heritages being erased. You could say it’s the same as African American culture but we don’t really call it that colloquially.
Omg this is an AMERICAN channel! So obviously these experiments will cater towards African-Americans. If this was a South African or Nigerian channel, we would expect it to only cater to those ethnicities and no one would question it. But, since it’s centered around Americans, it’s such a problem and getting unnecessary hate. Smh. The makeup of the African-American DNA is very different from other black ethnicities/nationalities due to slavery. And most of us (unfairly and to no fault of our own) have no idea where we originate from. So, let them have fun. Stop it!
if the Eritrean girl, Serena, wasn't part of the mix, I know for a fact Josselyn would've put herself in the number one spot lol. Although she was kind of looking at DNA and ancestry, she mostly just felt like the most culturally Black person there and gave herself credit based on that. Like, Johnathan was clearly more Black than her the whole time, and it felt like him being more meek and not using slang and stuff made her doubt him. On the other hand, Wayne straight up having white great grandparents and being more brown than Joselyn just goes to show you can't think skin tone is always the answer. Lastly, I get why they focused on lighter-skinned and multi/bi-racial Black people, but I wanted to see where DNA could be misleading for more dark skinned Black people too.
For a more in depth exploration of this topic, I highly recommend Khadija Mbowe's video on theory of racelessness and Joulezy's video on the problem w/ the black immigrant. The problem is people of color are defined by non-whiteness where whiteness is considered the default. The truth is race itself does not exist. The only reason it is relevant is because people still think within the concept that race is a valid category for a human being. It is not.
Responding to check it out later
EXACTLY!! also Khadija Mbowe is incredible I'm happy to see them mentioned here
@@teenytries6290 don't forget to come back
facts
Khadija THEE ONE AND TRUE WORD!
Cool I loved this! Would love to see more content involving DNA tests. Super interesting
Same
yes same!
This feels like an episode of Odd one out 😂 It’s like they’re trying to find out who is not black 😂
Jubilee and friends, I appreciate you guys for taking the time to make a video like this! It created the space to actually talk about "Blackness" in a tangible way. That being said, I wished the participants would've delved deeper into the topic and not have kept it so surface level. There are so many factors that make a person black and not all of it is dependent on genetics and how melanated you are. While that is a major factor it is not the only significant one. I think delving into where and how one feels the most comfortable (environment wise) and who they resonate with the most when it comes to present day as well as historically are indicative. The number one person, Serena, brought up the fact that both her parents being from "Eritrea" was significant enough to keep her at number one. My counterpoint and what I wished one of the other participants had brought up, is that we (African Americans) do not have that luxury. Due to the slave trade (that lasted for hundreds of years) a lot of black people were dispelled from cultures and communities and interspersed among people that didn't want us and forcibly tried to erase us. Even if we took a DNA test or tried to follow a family tree as far back as it would go, we will never be able to know for sure where we came from and what tribe was (or is) linked to us. So while her point is significant it should not have been the deciding factor because the playing field for that is not level and just because we don't know where we came from specifically, it doesn't make us any less black. Another aspect that was touched on but not thoroughly discussed is skin tone. What a lot of people don't know or seem to want to believe is that black people are capable of having children that look like just about every race (skin tone, hair texture, eye color, body type, etc.) without directly breeding with said look-a-like race. In fact, historically, that was the case before interbreeding became normalized (and in some cases fetishized) to have children that were physical outliers and did not look both parents or other immediate members of the family. It should also be noted that we seem to be the only race capable of that phenomenon. I don't know if it's because we are capable of holding so much history within our DNA that certain traits and characteristics are able to jump, skip and span generations for a specific reason or if it's just happenstance but there are definitely multiple occasions where this anomaly has taken place. No other race (that I'm aware of) has this particular capability. So for that reason I would not have automatically assumed that they were the least "black" because of their skin tone. Overall, while it was a great discussion and a nice video I do believe that the mark was missed and would love a part two where individuals are open to this kind of dialogue and expound on why we think and act the way we do because even that would expand on the subject.
Blackness is just genetic, actually.
We can produce any race because we're the original people. ❤ 😊
This is false asf
Asians are another race that I've seen produce people that have any characteristics INCLUDING 4C HAIR.
I think this just goes to show how beautifully complex being black actually is. Even just ranking off of DNA leaves a lot on the table and I think that's why Joselyn was coming at Jonathan so hard lol As someone who has had their blackness questioned based on the way they speak I'm pretty sure that's what it was. That being said, I'm actually glad we live in a world where "Blackness" is finally being shown for it's nuances and how expansive it can be
Yes! Same! I’m glad Blackness is being more shown to be diverse and I think we have to thank BLM 2020 for that.
nah, this just goes to show how delusional or insecure some people are to be claiming people who literally are not black. Y’all need to get out the one drop rule Chokehold lol
@@whoreofdragonstone1031 these comments are sad...self hate.
@@whoreofdragonstone1031 exactly. These people are delusional.
It’s very diverse. Black people that have descended from different African tribes can be completely genetically distant and can have more genetic similarities with Asian or White people.
That was really interesting. I want to see Asians/Asian-Americans do this next because as an Asian American I want to compare and contrast to them. But I know for a fact I’d be on the lesser scale of “authentic Asian.”
Well, yeah. Asian-Americans might as well not even be Asian at all if you’re comparing them to legitimate full Asians born and raised in an Asian country aside from Japan (Japanese people are so obsessed with Western culture that they’re almost more American than actual Americans lol). It would be akin to comparing a super conservative adult against someone like...Charli D’amelio.
Won't work the same way as most weren't in this country that long. If a Asian version comes out they are most likely mixed Asian.
And how will they determine who is more Asian? Will they just look at say an Iranian guy and just assume he isn't Asian because he isn't from the east? I think with Asia it should really be narrowed down e.g. who is the most south Asian. Or who is the most east Asian? Asia is more racially diverse than Africa
I wanna see that video. Cause it’ll definitely be confusing cause I feel like the term Asian is very broad. Like technical an Indian, a Persian and a Japanese person are all “Asian.” Regardless of skin color, religion and distinct local cultures. It would have to be a very western-based video
@@WHYOSHO It shouldn't be, Asia is region of the world that begins somewhat when leaving Africa.
1:49 AAVE has no impact on one's ability to be well spoken. It's simply a dialect. Most people who speak AAVE also speak Standard American English.
3:20 That's the issue with the one drop rule.
I agree it doesn't determine how well they can speak, but they have to understand in a professional setting you can't say "wussup bruh how you doing G" and expect to be taken seriously. I think we need to stop telling black people "you speak white" when they speak proper. Speaking properly can be for everyone
In regards to the one drop rule, genetics is not as cut and dry as people make it out to be. His parents could be genetically 80 percent African and appear phenotypically full black, but he simply inherited that 20 percent from each of his parents. So if both his parents appear full black then how could he be expected to know genetically he is biracial without taking a dna test? So that’s why I think identity should just come down to ethnicity. Ethnically, he’s black/African American since that’s the culture he grew up in and that’s what his parents clearly identify as.
@@DD-rh2sz The only reason some dialects are taken more seriously than others is because of racism. I support using a standardized dialect in formal situations, but I do not agree that a standard dialect has qualities that are inherently better. You've used the phrasing "speak proper" which is funny because in Standard American English someone would be flamed for using that adjective instead of the adverb counterpart. What you wrote communicates your idea perfectly though, and someone would be a fool to take you less seriously because of that though. Anyway, statistically 80% of Black Americans who speak AAVE also speak Standard American English dialect so this is a nonissue for most of us.
@@lex5377 Most Black Americans (ethnicity) can trace their lineage beyond their biological parents, and most people have a general understanding of what the enslaved Africans that were brought over here looked like, so it should not surprise a person with a certain phenotype that they are more likely to come from a more mixed lineage. That's not even taking into account that most Black Americans are mixed themselves due to consequences from slavery. Most are about a fifth to a quarter mixed with "*White." As far as the rest of your comment, it's hard to say identity should just come down to ethnicity when certain ethnic groups are tied to certain phenotypes. That can be a part of cultures as well. I think as long as colorism still exists worldwide, unfortunately people will be so focused on skin color etc.
@@courtr1588 It is a non-issue. But also needs to be recognized that slang is not professional. Just like swearing. It has nothing to do with racism. If you want a job in France you better speak French. A job in Japan-Japanese. A job in the USA- English, although I bet USA has the most workers that can't even speak the language of the country, not something you will find in other countries very often. I appreciate you calling out my grammar. On a RUclips forum it isn't expected to be perfect, but for sure if I was writing a University thesis or filling out a job application I wouldn't want to make those grammatical errors. And that was my point, nothing is wrong with AAVE, I use it myself, but I wouldn't wonder why I wasn't doing as well in school or work if I took that slang everywhere I went.
I want an episode of middle ground, Black vs Mixed. And I want the following prompts:
I consider myself to be Black
Colorism has affected me
I don’t fit in with Black ppl
I think mixed ppl have privilege
Mixed ppl and Blk ppl are not the same
I think you should also do fair skin vs Dark skin
This would be interesting. Another prompt:
I feel excluded by the black community
"Mixed ppl and Blk ppl are not the same ", except for the young lady ranked first, everyone else is mixed. Also, all Africans are not the same, you can have mixed African ancestry.
@@alyssiamelange no, half of them are Black. The last 3 are mixed
@@angelmushahf💀3rd dude had two black parents and dude in the middle had white grandparents
You're only saying he's mixed cause he's lightskin
@@ahkenaten522 no he’s mixed because he is mixed. There are light skinned Black ppl. He is not a light skinned black person. He looks like an ordinary mixed person
As a black millennial woman, this feels problematic. Someone call Umar 🤦🏾♀️
Not Umar. 😬
Sorry.. but Ciara is not “black”. She does not look black at all, and is only 20% black… lol
It's because the racist one drop rule from Jim Crow times is still prevalent in American society, they believe if a person has only 1 drop of non white ancestry, they are non white
@@3m287 yes she is non-white.. she is also non-black. LOL. It’s very obvious.
@Mariah Fox
I’d say at least 50% and looks “black-passing”…
A lot of 50% black folks also dont look African enough in my opinion..
@@Ahmed-pf3lg No, it's 80% and that's barely. Between 50-75%, you are closer to biracial than black, so not black
@@federalfreemoneylackofrese9937
Yeah i think i agree with ur comment
Americans have this rare type of blindness that makes them oblivious to obvious racial differences lol. I think the issue stems from the one drop rule and considering anyone who has a spec of black in their lineage as a black person. That's what made the obviously mixed race people in this video overestimate their results.
Did they overestimate their result? All 3 of them went to the end immediately and weren’t that surprised with the results. They didn’t really try to move spots.
@@wittyusername9544 no but josselyn overestimated herself cuz she think's being black is a personality trait 🙄
@@MsDudette21 To a degree it is.
@@pietrycranberry6621 no it's not. but thanks for implying u see stereotypes as a fact that applies to everyone
@@MsDudette21 - I mean, that’s how black people (who care so much about being black) view it. It’s all about your attitude and slang talk etc. otherwise you aren’t “black enough.”
It is unthinkable to me, a shy Japanese, that a group of strangers could gather together and yet start a pleasant conversation.
It’s amazing how people assume because you have lighter eye color it doesn’t solidify you are black. I actually have light eyes and I got that gene from my father who is black, parents are black, and their parents are black. Let’s normalize variety in blackness.
Off topic but Eritrean women are top tier. Also Josselyn was trying to measure off of being more culturally black instead of actually DNA results.
Ciarra: it’s giving very I’m rocking with mark bc mark is rocking with us LMAOOOOO
I did a dna test on 23 and me and was so shock with my results.. which led me tracing my family history to slavery
Got a lot of light skin and mix race people in this cast huh. So no dark skins???
really that's what your asking rn why you trying to make this video racist come on just chill and enjoy the video
@@BIGETV. how's he being racist?
There should be darker people and lighter people. I know black people who are lighter then my white friends. This is so wrong
@@just-some-muslim he didn’t say that.
What Is that gonna change their obviously gonna be black
They are all talking about how confident Josslyn is, while all I see is an insecure woman who is worried about how "black" (cultural black) she is perceived by others.
or she is simply competitive, ease up
She’s just proud to be Black, how about that?
True she wasn't confident that she was higher up she was just pushy and persistent about it; kinda like other comments saying that there's this thing in the black communities of trying to compare/be the most black between them
sounds like you’re projecting
@@daquoncooper9259 competitive about objective facts? pretty silly. she thinks being black is a personality trait when it's just a part of who u are
I like the concept of the video but I would have liked to see a more diverse array of skin tones. I liked that many of the people in this video talked about and acknowledged colorism and how it impacted their loved ones, but I would have loved to see folks with deeper skin tones actually represented in the video. The experiences of dark skinned people are so important in particular when speaking of Blackness and the experience of being perceived in the world as very much so Black.
Totally agree
Exactly what I was thinking!
So the dude that was 67% not darkskin?
So the dude that was 67% not darkskin?
So the dude that was 67% not darkskin?
Bryanna seemed like the only one who wanted to be whiter than she is. I actually think she looks more African than Steve.
Bro said you're black as long as you identify as black and you have plights. What is this video?😂😂
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That was the white great grandparents speaking for him
FRRR
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@@likedmyowncomment3547 LMAO 💀
Keeping plastic bags is a very standard thing to do here in Sweden as well. I even keep the small ones for my bathroom trashcan.
I heard y'all don't feed your guests
@@cindyleep5431Many of us do though.. so I don't understand where that rumor comes from
Isnt plastic bags a swedish invention that was made as an alternative to paper bags since they could be reused anyway. I know that the same goes in my household in Denmark, unless the bag is broken or something spilled in it, it goes in the drawer for reuse.
@@Nhicki I have no idea if it's a Swedish invention
Josseyln cared way too much about being "more black"
thats what happens when u think being black is a personality trait. if she is so obsessed with being black she should be obsessing over african cultures as well
But being black ain't just identifying as black
its culture, it's understanding the plight and history of black people
It's a lot more than just identifying bro
Not surprised at Serena's results. I'm Eritrean too & my DNA results came out at 99.9%!
Anyone know her @?
@@kyungydid u find her @ i need steve @
I loved the concept for this but was not in love with the cast, I would have preferred to see darker people and hear their perspectives, and would have enjoyed more discourse about the African American diasporas experience in multiple arenas including sexuality, music, culture, food, slavery and socioeconomic effects. This felt a little skewed towards the biracial/racially ambiguous.
What you prefer is not always what you get babes, especially since it’s not your production 😩
Yes, I agree. I would’ve expected this to be an ALL black cast because it would’ve been more interesting to see their percentages opposed to biracial people who are literally 50% of another race. Like I think it kind of defeated the whole purpose when we already know they will have a larger percentage of non black dna.
@@lizzyezekiel116 It’s called feedback, as a black woman I think it’s helpful to Jubilee to give my honesty about content about my community.
No I’m happy they had a variety of skin tones. You can’t just have darker people in a video talking about blackness. When we all come in different shades
@@camxox6089 I enjoyed the diversity in skin color too, but I felt like there would have been more powerful discourse if there were black people with deeper skin tones, because they bring a different world view and lens. This episode felt geared towards racially ambiguous/bi-racial audience.
Love seeing light skin Black people with two Black parents. Recently, through media, it's so often understood that light skin Black people are "always" biracial
That’s false…he is only 56 percent black? So, how is he not mixed? Both parents are mixed. Multigenerational mixed is a real thing. I am disappointed that no one corrected him. Biracial people have been around for centuries…did he think that biracial people don’t have children? He has two mixed race parents…and genes don’t expire like food. You can come from a whole lineage of mixed race relatives.
Vanessa Williams is 59 percent black…both of her parents are mixed race
I'm 67% like Wayne and I am darker than all of them, even the African woman. And I've seen 80%+ light skinned blacks. Being black is complex and we have an amazing culture. It shouldn't be a competition of who's blacker than who.
In the end that one guy WAS biracial though, even though he said both his parents were black. Sure they’re just biracial themselves.
He was definitely mixed 👀
Exactly! It happens A LOT because Black ppl consider biracials to be “light skin Black”. I would consider Jocelyn to be light skin Black. That guy is biracial
It reminds me of this white dude with blonde hair and blue eyes in middle school telling everyone he's part black cause his mom is. I found her photo and that woman was definitely giving Megan Markle lol. Mixed and light skin are not interchangeable
@@angelmushahf why would you consider her to be light skin black? she’s just black. she’s not even biracial. Wayne is even less black than her
@@verob1 biracial means two, she’s more than one race, she’s biracial
Why is it that it is only expected for the black race to class biracials as fully blacks but other races make that distinction clearly. Its not an insult but its just the fact....biracial is not the same as black....those are two different races people....by now everyone should know this....one drop rule doesnt work in science🙄🙄🙄🙄
I agree and thankfully more people are waking up to this. Its ridiculous that people are really claiming halsey, wentworth miller, mariah carey, and Logic the rapper as black. The one drop rule is literally from a racist belief. Idk why people want to follow it.
The problem still is that black Americans are not fully black either . We are mixed as well. We may have more African in us but we are still majority mixed.
@@ifyouwantoreplyjustclickth5063 most black celebrities have a big % of European in them. People just want to claim them as black to beautify their success and claim it as black success let’s be honest here.
@@jaeminie5994 thats one of the reasons for sure and the issue with that is that it has lead erasure of black people getting roles, positive lead roles especially and recognition. Biracial people are getting passed off as black. I remember i asked a white guy to name black female celebrities that he thought we beautiful and he listed the usual (alicia keys, halle berry, mariah carey). I said no, list black, not biracial, and he couldnt think of any.
@@nataliewalters2759 that’s admixture not being mixed, just like white Americans doesn’t mean there mixed does it?
josselyn had me crying laughing lmfao i love her😭
IDK why the last girl, Bryana thinks she passes for White because to me she looks mixed to me
She looks white. Being mixed isn't a race.
As a Black-Puerto Rican, I loved this video!! Jocelyn's confidence was very admirable indeed :)
Nosotros no somos negros como los gringos y eso te lo dice alguien con tez trigueña lol
@@MasterInHD cállete 💓
@@starobviously4956 cállame, cb
Us peurto ricans are not black bro stop we could be dark skinned but we’re not african black
@@kyungy Bro im biracial. You need to chill. Ngl that’s kinda anti-black of you.
And there are many Afro-Puertoricans. Did you forget about slavery??? It was also in PR. There are dark-skin PR.
would be interesting to get an an african immigrant or someone who grew up in africa and now lives in america ( and is black ) in this convo. bc myself as a black african immigrant, i do not relate at all to a lot of the african american experiences / get a long naturally with african american communities. would also be refreshing to see other kinds of black people in conversations about blackness.
Just out of curiosity why do African immigrants call themselves black, like you all have a whole country, language, and culture to identify with we black Americans have nothing but the color of our skin to identify us with because our country, language, was stolen from us for generations. Why not identify with what country your from?🤔
Serena was Eritrean
@@So1asola she says her mom and dad are Eritrean, not herself which means ( i could be wrong but just using context in the video ) she grew up in america for the most part and is only connected to her culture via her parents who immigrated (?). she doesn't self identify as Eritrean, she may not have grown up in Eritrea herself / be in touch with her culture. thus doesn't fit the category of african immigrant that i mentioned --her parents would. she grew up in america, and is as american as any other born and raised on american soil, with some cultural differences at home / life in general. her opinion and experience are very american. i mentioned interested in hearing the opinions of other kinds of black people, who just happen to live in america. so im talking about immigrants from all over the world, or people who live between america and another non-north american country.
@@mistybloom3 most children of immigrants in the west identify with their ‘parents’ culture. I can speak personally that many African America cultural clues she would not identify with because that’s not the culture she grew up around. However I do understand what you’re saying.
Hey I'll like to be part of a case study like this. I'm Nigerian born & raised, really light skinned & have had my blackness questioned my whole life.
Same (I’m more like Halle Baileys complexion, though, but have fully Nigerian relatives as light as zendaya with light colored eyes). Would love to do this just to throw a wrench in people’s guesswork haha
I have never seen a fellow Eritrean named Serena . Very rare name in that part of the world
My eyes immediately bugged out when she said "I don't use AAVE. not that that what's makes a Black person. You can be well spoken"
What's super interesting is that brown sugar and plain noodles are an actual dessert here in Pakistan and I would think in India too so who knows, Josselyn might have some Indo-pak blood in her too XD
Depends where she lived, because in the late 1800s early 1900s South Asian men were coming to the U.S and not have South South Asian women they had Black American and Latina wives.
Can't wait for Aba & Preach's reaction to this...
Ong bruh 😂
I hope they don't ruin it and just have fun watching
@@hopeintruth5119 Why would they ruin it? Their jokes usually make it funnier.
Biracial and mixed race is a range from 26%- 74%. Being 50/50 unrealistic or very rare. Just like eye color is a range from dominant to recessive.
Nawl I wouldn’t say 74% because according to research the average African American is 75% black/African and those are the ones that have full black parents and grandparents. I would say 20% - 50%
Being 50 50 if very common and most likely out side of america,bc most biracials that arent from america have an african parent and they have 100 percent have 50 african blood,but since american lightskins have an african american parent they will def get some that 25 whiteness extra so non american lightskins have 50 percent blackness while american ones have mostly 40 percent blackness
@@breenicole4205 not to 20 percent thats barely any black
@@օժօ Most biracial people in America that have one blk and one white parent normally be 30% - 50% blk. You will be able to tell when someone is 20% blk or Asian vs when someone is 20% white like the average non mixed African American. Jhene Aiko is only 25% Asian but she looks half. African and Asian genes are strong.
@@օժօ not to mention Jhene Aniko is just as much white as she is blk or Asian but all I see is the blk and Asian DNA. So her 25% Asian and 33% African is quite obvious compared to her 34% European.
Where are the DARK skinned people???
Obviously there gonna be black
Thank you!!! I was asking the same thing. Not a true representation of black if only 2 of the main 3 categories are only there
Exactly, I would only consider like 3 of these people black and even they’re on the light side 😭😭
They did have a one Eritrean. Who is 99.8 %.
???
My sister is a lot darker than me but has less African DNA than I do (we have different moms). She identifies as Afro-Latina and no one would question that. I consider myself mixed, but I don't feel comfortable calling myself Afro-Latina simply because of my appearance, I'm not perceived that way, I just look like a regular-shmegular Latina. My sister's husband is Black American with over 90% African DNA and he's the same skin tone as me with red kinky hair, my sister is darker than him. Blackness is diverse. Blackness is complex. And I think each person identifies with their culture and family history differently depending on their experiences and upbringing.
imo Jocelyn seemed very insacure, like she needed to prove to everyone she was black 😭 idk just my opinion
it's bc she's very light. sometimes you will see very light skinned black americans overcompensate
It’s true, I have 2 daughters & my light skin daughter is way more “Afrocentric” than my brown skin daughter 🥹 my brown skin daughter is very “Eurocentric” in regards to their taste in music, fashion, hairstyles & entertainment choices. It’s very interesting 🤔
This is so interesting because its posing the question of how can Blackness be defined, is it cultural or really just down to your Dna or a mix of both?
I’m Mexican and we keep plastic bags, I also never took the chicken out of the freezer until I heard my mom’s car pull in the driveway lol
maybe its a poc thing then lol
In Sweden it is very common to reuse plastic bags as well
Sounds like literally every white person ever lmao.
@@hayattkhaire3644 sorry but no lol
@@hayattkhaire3644 It's actually a middle class thing.