Will the Suns Silence the Doubters in the Pacific Division? | The Bill Simmons Podcast

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  • Опубликовано: 19 окт 2023
  • The Ringer’s Bill Simmons is joined by Joe House and Ryen Russillo to talk about the stacked NBA Pacific Division.
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  • @nickwestphal7113
    @nickwestphal7113 7 месяцев назад +208

    Thank God these guys no longer work for ESPN! This is the best basketball content available, anywhere, period! Simmons and Russillo are 2 of the best in the biz.

    • @David-iv6je
      @David-iv6je 7 месяцев назад

      ESPN is such a shit show.

    • @vinceventura4453
      @vinceventura4453 7 месяцев назад

      Kid he’s not worked at espn for like 20 years you dork , he’s got a production company that started 30 for 30 because of it being part of his idea ..he’s not worked for espn since obama was in office ..stop trying so hard to get likes on RUclips comments your better then that man

    • @norebab3818
      @norebab3818 7 месяцев назад +22

      And Joe House, put sum respek

    • @mjwbulich
      @mjwbulich 7 месяцев назад +8

      Basketball is what they're really passionate about and you can tell.

    • @39872adnan
      @39872adnan 7 месяцев назад +20

      @@norebab3818hearing House complain about his Washington basketball team is always GOLD

  • @socalkylex
    @socalkylex 7 месяцев назад +29

    Ginobili ceiling for Reeves may be the nicest thing Bill has ever said about a laker

  • @kylemartin6300
    @kylemartin6300 7 месяцев назад +47

    Russilo “I …just think nurkic sucks”
    Made me lol so hard for some reason

    • @39872adnan
      @39872adnan 7 месяцев назад

      That was gold lol

  • @BackWhereYouStarted
    @BackWhereYouStarted 7 месяцев назад +20

    I could listen to these guys banter for hours

  • @David-iv6je
    @David-iv6je 7 месяцев назад +58

    Booker in the playoffs last year: 33.7, 4.8, 7.2 on 58.5/50.5/87 % shooting against the Clippers and Nuggets. Only team to win two off the Nuggets.

    • @zurkthajerkgaming
      @zurkthajerkgaming 7 месяцев назад +1

      Don’t forget Booker magically became a lockdown defender in that series. I’m sure it had nothing to do with the officiating 🤢🤮

    • @adhiatmajamy4617
      @adhiatmajamy4617 7 месяцев назад +10

      @@zurkthajerkgamingwhat

    • @tindobranic4791
      @tindobranic4791 7 месяцев назад +14

      Not really, all 4 losses were blowouts mostly while the 2 wins they needed KD and primarily Book to go OFF historically and those were close. I would argue the Laker sweep was closer than the Suns due to the fact they were in every game till the buzzer.

    • @xavierb9061
      @xavierb9061 7 месяцев назад +1

      And team sucked...they got rid off everyone

    • @SuperGiantpenguins
      @SuperGiantpenguins 7 месяцев назад +20

      @@tindobranic4791bros trying to argue a sweep was a closer series than a 6 games 😂😂😂

  • @Phx0407
    @Phx0407 7 месяцев назад +6

    Russilo is right Booker is built way different

  • @parulp6385
    @parulp6385 7 месяцев назад +6

    Booker will be in the top 3 MVP conversation this year, he will be the best player on the Suns

  • @czexmixdoteth
    @czexmixdoteth 7 месяцев назад +2

    Thank you for the video! I would really like to see all of the audio podcasts available in video. I know it might seem like it shouldn't matter, but I pay more attention to the content if I have the ability to watch the speakers. Thanks!

  • @reggienoble3195
    @reggienoble3195 7 месяцев назад +2

    This was really good solid NBA Talk...Just what I was looking for as Opening Day is 2moro and I've ignored the entire Pre-Season. so today and tomorrow afternoon I'll be trying to find more NBA team breakdowns to get up to speed...This was good..I'll try to find your other division breakdowns now..

  • @ExVoto63
    @ExVoto63 7 месяцев назад +15

    Suns have three of the best offensive players in the game and Simmons is asking "Who's gonna cover Luka?", "Who's gonna chase Steph Curry around screens?" How about who in the hell is gonna cover KD, Book, and Beal?

    • @gilbertarballo
      @gilbertarballo 7 месяцев назад +3

      I can't even remember who guarded him in the heat series Tatum performed a great choke job there all by his lonesome 😅😂

  • @johnnytimestamp8224
    @johnnytimestamp8224 7 месяцев назад +8

    6:40 doubling down on Shamet = Beal
    Holy 💩

    • @David-iv6je
      @David-iv6je 7 месяцев назад +1

      Just saying Beal wouldn't have swung the series. That's fair.

    • @proximoAZ
      @proximoAZ 7 месяцев назад +4

      ⁠no it’s not. Durant and book had zero help and still beat them twice. Shamet is maybe my most hated suns player ever, he is horrendously bad.

    • @Juice-ig3jz
      @Juice-ig3jz 7 месяцев назад

      @proximoAZ y’all are living off those two lucky ass games were you two best players played out of their mind and you barely one. Our wins were dominate against y’all lol. It’s not close Beal ain’t doing shit and I’ll be back to comment when we repeat.

    • @maciedixon3983
      @maciedixon3983 7 месяцев назад +1

      @@David-iv6jeno. The suns with any help could have beat Denver

    • @ayooot5850
      @ayooot5850 7 месяцев назад

      @@proximoAZshamet nd lee are terrible

  • @JasonMiller-rg8md1
    @JasonMiller-rg8md1 7 месяцев назад +10

    WTF! Have these guys been watching the Suns? The have Okogee and Goodwin for point of attack defense and they got 6 foot 8 wings for days coming off the bench. Injury concerns go for every team. The Suns are DEEP af. I cnt wait for these guys look like fools, about 3 weeks into the season when they see how good this team actually is

    • @JasonMiller-rg8md1
      @JasonMiller-rg8md1 7 месяцев назад +7

      clearly they didnt watch the Suns bench players dominate the
      lakers starters last night gtfo

    • @LeGoatJames111
      @LeGoatJames111 7 месяцев назад

      Bron exposed everyone on Phoenix. Phoenix has no answers for Bron and AD and ur ass got outplayed the first half. Imagine if Beal & Booker was in there, it woulda been a lot worse cuz the Lakers woulda had 60-70 in the first half w those 2 on there. Beal and Booker not plus defenders

    • @LeGoatJames111
      @LeGoatJames111 7 месяцев назад

      @@JasonMiller-rg8md1 Phoenix will be at the bottom fighting for a play in spot cuz they have no defense and depth

    • @enricomiguelrequilman6000
      @enricomiguelrequilman6000 7 месяцев назад

      ​@@JasonMiller-rg8md1In their defense, this podcast was before the Lakers vs. Suns preseason game

    • @maciedixon3983
      @maciedixon3983 7 месяцев назад

      @@JasonMiller-rg8md1yup

  • @_Xds_
    @_Xds_ 7 месяцев назад +11

    Man bills takes have gotten completely insane over the years. Dude couldn't go 15 seconds without bringing up tatum 😂 The suns dont have to worry about guarding tatum in the finals cause he'll just start bricking when it matters most. He just doesnt have that killer in him that book does

    • @adamsmith9080
      @adamsmith9080 7 месяцев назад +1

      real Book has consistent killer instinct people that don’t think so don’t watch Suns ball fr

  • @marcr196
    @marcr196 7 месяцев назад +2

    Bill trying to downplay the fact he said: "Are we sure Bradley Beal instead of Landry Shamet makes any difference in the Nuggets series?" to "Denver would've still beaten them" is insane damage control

  • @JB-qt4hp
    @JB-qt4hp 7 месяцев назад +2

    If every team stays 90% healthy or better, and that's a BIG if, this could be the best division in NBA history. Either way, it's gonna be wild seeing this season play out.

  • @detnibul9361
    @detnibul9361 7 месяцев назад +16

    I trust James Jones talent evaluation over these 3 guys. Simmons and Rusillo are entertaining but their opinions are just that, opinions. We'll see how the season plays out but I bet the Suns put all of these concerns about defense to rest early in the season. Vogel is a huge upgrade over Monty Williams as far as defensive coaching goes. And Kevin Young has the offense already in a dangerous spot for other teams.

    • @LeGoatJames111
      @LeGoatJames111 7 месяцев назад

      nah. Phoenix gonna struggle against teams that have depth like the Lakers, Nuggets, etc cuz those are the 2 best teams in the West and they have to go through both of them

    • @maciedixon3983
      @maciedixon3983 7 месяцев назад +5

      One of these dudes is a mavs Stan. Did they watch the Lakers pre season. Lmao. We aren’t worried

    • @maciedixon3983
      @maciedixon3983 7 месяцев назад +1

      @@LeGoatJames111watch the pre season game. Not concerned idiot

    • @johnnelson3665
      @johnnelson3665 7 месяцев назад +5

      @@LeGoatJames111Lakers have depth? They fooled me in the preseason. It seems they rely heavily on Anthony Davis.

    • @MasonMiles5
      @MasonMiles5 7 месяцев назад +2

      I agree with Simmons in that the Suns aren’t going to be a juggernaut regular season team & tbh it does make sense not ride their 3 star players all yr long. Especially Durant given his injury history/age. Keep them healthy for the end of the season & hope they finish strong going into the postseason with momentum & good team chemistry. The roster has deficiencies as it currently stands, but they’re a team that will add buyout guys & can possibly make a trade for an overlooked guy at the deadline who help round out the roster & be impactful.
      I do think Jordan Goodwin should & will be a very important player for the team as defensive guard. Nassir Little as well if he can stay healthy & buy into his role. Playing off of Durant, Booker & Beal is going to make it so much easier for guys on offense.

  • @17NateJohnson
    @17NateJohnson 7 месяцев назад +18

    Lebron doesn’t affect winning the same way. It’s not a cliff. It’s just what we saw last year: Lebron is the headline, but AD determines whether the team wins.

    • @LeGoatJames111
      @LeGoatJames111 7 месяцев назад +1

      he still does to this day. Why do niggas play better w Bron instead of w/o?

    • @Sheldinho4
      @Sheldinho4 7 месяцев назад +6

      @@LeGoatJames111almost replied to prove you wrong but given your name it’s a lost cause lol

    • @LeGoatJames111
      @LeGoatJames111 7 месяцев назад

      @@Sheldinho4 nah. He got 4 championships, about to win a 5th this year watch

    • @Sheldinho4
      @Sheldinho4 7 месяцев назад

      @@LeGoatJames111 nice

    • @nikosvault
      @nikosvault 7 месяцев назад

      He also doesn’t affect winning the same way because he is playing in a real conference now. 2 missed playoffs. 1st round exit. WCF sweep. The West is a b*tch.

  • @mattwhitely1067
    @mattwhitely1067 7 месяцев назад +36

    Durant is wayyy better than Dame

    • @HahaHaha-km4sm
      @HahaHaha-km4sm 7 месяцев назад +1

      How so

    • @mattwhitely1067
      @mattwhitely1067 7 месяцев назад +3

      @@HahaHaha-km4sm for starters KD plays good defence and is obviously a better rebounder. KD is also a better scorer from more positions than Dame.

    • @deboboomin5989
      @deboboomin5989 7 месяцев назад +2

      @@mattwhitely1067he has to be trolling if he got to ask you “How so” nobody is choosing Dam over KD it’s simple as that you don’t got to explain yourself to him bro

    • @Srtdwill
      @Srtdwill 7 месяцев назад +1

      This man just said how so wym you clearly don’t watch basketball if u can’t look n see something wrong with you two eyeballs

  • @benjaminmihelcic2585
    @benjaminmihelcic2585 7 месяцев назад

    Great !! Thank you!

  • @StonerKitchen
    @StonerKitchen 7 месяцев назад +3

    the okogie and Goodwin disrespect tells me they dont watch the suns

  • @ki2726
    @ki2726 7 месяцев назад +21

    Russilo says Nurkic sucks like Ayton doesn’t

    • @ldmb1966
      @ldmb1966 7 месяцев назад +2

      at least Ayton plays lmao

    • @aolkid121
      @aolkid121 7 месяцев назад

      Like there ain't levels to the suckage

    • @David-iv6je
      @David-iv6je 7 месяцев назад +4

      Dude had an 18 and 10 last year. But he did that with 3 elite guys feeding him. "Dominayton" is in for a rude surprise this year.

    • @ki2726
      @ki2726 7 месяцев назад +5

      @@David-iv6je Those counting stats means nothing. He’s another Christian Wood. Good stats bad team guy. Don’t impact winning.

    • @chadingram6390
      @chadingram6390 7 месяцев назад

      He's been averaging those numbers since he walked into the league, y'alll really are casuals huh? @@David-iv6je

  • @shemmcetoogreezy4639
    @shemmcetoogreezy4639 7 месяцев назад

    This is what we all been waiting for 👀

  • @QGuides
    @QGuides 7 месяцев назад

    I love with these three get together

  • @manuginobilisbaldspot424
    @manuginobilisbaldspot424 7 месяцев назад +3

    It’s all about matchups. Seeding doesn’t matter.

  • @evanwrenn402
    @evanwrenn402 7 месяцев назад

    Can't forget about the Wiseman experiment with the Warriors last year. They started 3-7 before they finally decided to stop playing him.

  • @nicholaspereira1808
    @nicholaspereira1808 7 месяцев назад

    Anyone else notice how a piece of Ryan's mic fits perfectly on Andre the Giant's nose?

  • @Mike348749
    @Mike348749 7 месяцев назад

    As a Laker fan it sucks I have to go to the Bill Simmons Poscast for real basketball takes, but these guys are the best. Especially Russillo. Most knowledgeable basketball guy there is.

  • @GeeElLobo
    @GeeElLobo 7 месяцев назад +3

    I’m looking forward to Bill trashing a player and then later on in the season praising the player like he never trashed him. Like every year

  • @purrinkittyz4737
    @purrinkittyz4737 7 месяцев назад +4

    Bro do research on the suns bench! NOBODY has a better bench than Phoenix! Trust me! Teams will have to drop 125 a game to beat them.. not an easy task

  • @danielduncan6370
    @danielduncan6370 7 месяцев назад +1

    Why does Magic look so Sus 😅😂😂

  • @johnnytimestamp8224
    @johnnytimestamp8224 7 месяцев назад +19

    Beal missed games. Covid twice, wrist surgery and sitting at end of season/tanking.
    I think he’ll play 70+

    • @LeGoatJames111
      @LeGoatJames111 7 месяцев назад +1

      I don’t think so. He’s injury prone just like KD and Book

    • @StonerKitchen
      @StonerKitchen 7 месяцев назад +2

      how dare you counter with actual context.

    • @StonerKitchen
      @StonerKitchen 7 месяцев назад +2

      @@LeGoatJames111 They just went on a whole speel about how suns are injury prone then turn around and say the like the lakers as if AD isnt made of glass

    • @Murali_bala13
      @Murali_bala13 7 месяцев назад

      Beal is overrated.... I'd pick Reaves to have a better season as #3 on his team than Beal who hasn't done anything of significance in last 3 yrs

    • @johnnytimestamp8224
      @johnnytimestamp8224 7 месяцев назад

      he played for the Wizards....THE WIZARDS @@Murali_bala13

  • @nicolasstaudt5714
    @nicolasstaudt5714 7 месяцев назад +1

    Clips hit the over.

  • @smitsta
    @smitsta 7 месяцев назад

    Haha good pod boys

  • @shorafarahani
    @shorafarahani 7 месяцев назад +7

    Keegan Murray is going to be in conversation for most improved. He has all the proper ingredients. He is going to be a better Paul George

    • @adamsmith9080
      @adamsmith9080 7 месяцев назад +2

      BETTER Paul George? PG is a HOF!! FOH. Keegan Murray never going to be in MVP convo. He’s nice, but he’s not PG nice.

    • @EBizz85
      @EBizz85 7 месяцев назад

      ​@@adamsmith9080lol this is only his 2nd year calm down

  • @darlingtonatuba5910
    @darlingtonatuba5910 7 месяцев назад

    It's so interesting that Russillo is that into Booker. There's multiple instances of Booker not stepping up as a true #1 and Durant isn't capable of carrying a team for extended periods of time anymore

  • @TheDifferenceCHI
    @TheDifferenceCHI 7 месяцев назад +1

    Why is magic back poked out like that? 🤔😅

  • @Christopher._M
    @Christopher._M 7 месяцев назад +2

    It's not just beal that was added on offense.
    The bench now has Gordon, yuta, and Grayson. All three of those players are better than what was coming off the bench as the 6th man for the suns ladt year
    While beal isn't a great defender he's much better than 38/39 year cp3 just from a conditioning standpoint.
    Basically the suns improved from 3-8 with the exception of Nurkic.
    I totally understand the Nurkic worry. He's just too unathletic for guys like AD, Giannis, and Embid. The suns might be able to avoid those guys if Boston makes the finals and if someone takes out the Lakers before meeting the suns.
    But i think the offense and bench will be good enough to win rhe chip.

    • @LeGoatJames111
      @LeGoatJames111 7 месяцев назад +1

      No depth & no defense tho. That’s what you need to win championships. Phoenix has nothing of that. Lakers have the advantage over Phoenix bc of it and Denver has the advantage as well

    • @Christopher._M
      @Christopher._M 7 месяцев назад +1

      @@LeGoatJames111 that no bench and no defense beat you by 20 just a night ago. Without two of their best 3 players.
      Good luck

    • @LeGoatJames111
      @LeGoatJames111 7 месяцев назад +1

      @@Christopher._M first half lakers regulars outplayed Phoenix w no defense. Imagine if Book & Beal were in there, it woulda been a lot worse cuz the Lakers woulda had 60-70 plus in the half that’s how trash Beal & book are on defense. Second half was all third stringers/summer league team. Be ready for the Lakers to mollywop them by 20 2nd game of the season bc of their defense and depth. Again you need those 2 to win championships and Phoenix has none of it

    • @enricomiguelrequilman6000
      @enricomiguelrequilman6000 7 месяцев назад

      Don't forget Jordan Goodwin, 3&D guy that can handle the ball and has a high motor

  • @shorafarahani
    @shorafarahani 7 месяцев назад +5

    I just want to put this here for timekeeping
    Barring major injuries to Curry or Wiggins, Warriors are going to western finals
    Love the chemistry of that team. Other than the main guys (I am actually the most worried about Klay. He's been alittle out of it) Kuminga looks really good, Moody is next Iggy, Saric is vastly underrated, full season/healthy GP2, the 2 rookies look solid. I could care less about Corey Joseph... I hope Rudy Gay is 60% of what he was

    • @David-iv6je
      @David-iv6je 7 месяцев назад +2

      Rudy Gay is not 60% of what he used to be. Draymond isn't who he used to be. CP is definitely not who he used to be. Klay is not either.
      But you can totally make me eat crow if I'm wrong!

    • @shorafarahani
      @shorafarahani 7 месяцев назад +3

      @David-iv6je I didnt hang anything on CP nor Dray already :-) hence my point on wiggins and Steph only mattering in terms of injury.
      Gay is no.15th player anyway. They just need him in Haslem role
      Id see you in 8 months

    • @David-iv6je
      @David-iv6je 7 месяцев назад +1

      @@shorafarahani Happy to be wrong on this! 😁👍

    • @LeGoatJames111
      @LeGoatJames111 7 месяцев назад

      GS not going to the west finals, they’re never gonna beat the Lakers in a playoff setting. They don’t matchup w them at all. No size, too small, no depth, no defense, they still foul too much and they give up the most FT’s

    • @daveclark8337
      @daveclark8337 26 дней назад

      Just for timekeeping: Curry and Wiggy were healthy and the Dubs finished 10th and missed the playoffs.

  • @basketballgodz7027
    @basketballgodz7027 7 месяцев назад +1

    Kevin Durant had a Achilles tendon injury y’all act like he’s just 26 again tf plus this year will be his year

  • @proximoAZ
    @proximoAZ 7 месяцев назад +20

    Take on phoenix is ridiculous. We are quite deep. If each of the 3 play just 60 games we will win 60+ games. Best suns team ever in my opinion.

    • @shnoo8900
      @shnoo8900 7 месяцев назад +4

      Who tf is your 6th man?? Lol

    • @manuginobilisbaldspot424
      @manuginobilisbaldspot424 7 месяцев назад +1

      We…lmao, shut TF up. Way too emotional to have any objectivity.

    • @proximoAZ
      @proximoAZ 7 месяцев назад +1

      @@shnoo8900Eric Gordon.

    • @LeGoatJames111
      @LeGoatJames111 7 месяцев назад +6

      @@proximoAZ lmao he’s washed. Good luck beating the Lakers and other teams w depth in the west this year

    • @enricomiguelrequilman6000
      @enricomiguelrequilman6000 7 месяцев назад +6

      ​@@LeGoatJames111did you watch the preseason game between the Suns and Lakers yesterday? No Booker and Beal, + Suns bench trashed the Lakers bench

  • @187um9
    @187um9 7 месяцев назад

    Wtf is up with magics pic behind Bill lol

  • @EshockT
    @EshockT 7 месяцев назад +1

    Chortling about Year 3 Kuminga? Huh? He’s the best athlete in the NBA.

  • @Vic_8a
    @Vic_8a 7 месяцев назад +5

    Who's guarding Phoenix Big Three from any of the teams mentioned?

    • @LeGoatJames111
      @LeGoatJames111 7 месяцев назад

      and who’s Phoenix guarding on the other end? It’s all about defense nigga and Phoenix doesn’t play any defense

    • @HahaHaha-km4sm
      @HahaHaha-km4sm 7 месяцев назад +1

      A team with chemistry will beat them.. if the shots not falling they can be had cause what defenders do they have? No perimeter defenders and big defenders..

    • @Indycityc
      @Indycityc 7 месяцев назад +1

      @@HahaHaha-km4smyou don’t know ball! Goodwin, okogie, and booker, will all play defense

    • @LeGoatJames111
      @LeGoatJames111 7 месяцев назад +1

      @@Indycityc Booker is a liability. Okogie too small to guard bigger opponents & Goodwin too small too. Ur overrating those 2 guys and you saw what happened in the first half when the Lakers exposed ur weak defense by getting to the paint at will and getting to the FT line bc of no rim protection by Phoenix

    • @zanderhenderson4561
      @zanderhenderson4561 7 месяцев назад

      Healthy clippers and Celtic could for the most part

  • @joeg2258
    @joeg2258 7 месяцев назад

    When I used to cover the Clippers when I lived in LA......

  • @_Blonca
    @_Blonca 7 месяцев назад +13

    *I like Golden States chances*

    • @ABasedTohan
      @ABasedTohan 7 месяцев назад +1

      Warriors are live with that bench unit, they get a big and it’s pretty much makes them the favorite

    • @Bossanovawitcha
      @Bossanovawitcha 7 месяцев назад

      to make the play in

    • @mattwhitely1067
      @mattwhitely1067 7 месяцев назад

      ​@@ABasedTohanfavourite umm Denver

    • @Teebagzzz
      @Teebagzzz 7 месяцев назад

      ​@@mattwhitely1067no way man they lost some key role players

    • @LeGoatJames111
      @LeGoatJames111 7 месяцев назад

      @@mattwhitely1067 Lakers. They got better while everyone else in the division got worse

  • @ssholla92
    @ssholla92 7 месяцев назад

    Simmons has jumped the shark.

  • @HitManHerbert13
    @HitManHerbert13 7 месяцев назад

    I used to be really high on Nurkic. But he has just been nowhere near what he was before that horrific leg injury.

  • @Coachmike_seney
    @Coachmike_seney 7 месяцев назад

    You mean Monty Williams highest paid coach in the league.. I cried😂😂

  • @troymackey9588
    @troymackey9588 7 месяцев назад

    1. Turn off injuries, KD.
    However, there are injuries so Steph.
    2. Luka. I am also Tatum over Booker. I understand your reasons, but my ceiling is higher on Tatum.
    3. Luka.
    4. AD but, I trust Embiid to be on the court longer. It is close & preference.
    5. Wagner. Mobley is an old school 4. Franz is a modern wing. Garnett turned into a 2. He did so because his body stopped him being continuing offensively. Most players have to choose 1 elite end.
    6. Murray, but I am not sure what is the Jokic factor.
    7. Pass. Both are killing a franchise.

  • @Lildirt15
    @Lildirt15 7 месяцев назад

    Every year at gsw he played over 60 games. Every since then he had Achilles injury then freak accidents not actually injuries lol so yes he can play over 60 you don’t supposed to be prepared for someone to fall on your leg or your teammate bumping his head into your knee. Nor you working out and you tweak your ankle. That’s unfortunate but kd had a Achilles and foot injury that’s it

  • @TheWatcher1009
    @TheWatcher1009 7 месяцев назад

    Lol'd at the Nurkic take I get it he's cheaper lol but better hope he's ready by playoffs

  • @Steeezzzzz
    @Steeezzzzz 7 месяцев назад +1

    *complain about players moving* *constantly debates on whos next to move*
    Which one is it. The media preys on whos next to get traded and complain about it. Pick one.

  • @Josh86_925
    @Josh86_925 7 месяцев назад +1

    So many are overlooking the Warriors, and I love it. This Warriors team is deep AF, especially if the young guys like Kuminga keep getting better. They also still got a roster spot to fill after cutting Rudy Gay. I'm hearing Dwight Howard isn't off the table.

  • @Vic_8a
    @Vic_8a 7 месяцев назад +6

    Notice how they never talked about the Suns bench and how deep it is!!
    The Suns are so deep every NBA team is going to feel it in their trough!

    • @Teebagzzz
      @Teebagzzz 7 месяцев назад +1

      You're bugging. The whole bench is vet minimums

    • @chadingram6390
      @chadingram6390 7 месяцев назад

      They had no problem taking on the lakers @@Teebagzzz

    • @SouthSide41209
      @SouthSide41209 7 месяцев назад

      @@Teebagzzzthat just makes it better lmao

    • @enricomiguelrequilman6000
      @enricomiguelrequilman6000 7 месяцев назад

      ​@@Teebagzzztell me you're a casual without telling me you're a casual

    • @tashied422
      @tashied422 7 месяцев назад +2

      ​@@Teebagzzz To assume because they have vet minimum contracts, that they must not be good players is ridiculous. Cause thats basically what you're saying. Some of those players passed up on better paying contracts from other teams to play for the Suns. Im now realizing that most people who have negative views on the Suns have no clue who the bench players on that team is.

  • @nilshausmann473
    @nilshausmann473 7 месяцев назад +4

    taking the under on 52 wins for the Suns is absolutely absurd

    • @misinfluence
      @misinfluence 7 месяцев назад

      why? beal and KD play less than Lebron does.

    • @nilshausmann473
      @nilshausmann473 7 месяцев назад

      @@misinfluence and yet when is the last time the lakers finished better than the Suns? oops
      Suns were pushing 70 wins a year ago, pretty absurd to think a team with Booker, Beal, Durant and good depth is losing 30 plus games.

  • @NatureWar1
    @NatureWar1 7 месяцев назад +1

    WHY DOES EVERY YEAR START OUT EVERYONE TRASHING THE SUNS. WERE IN PLAYOFFS ALMOST EVERY YEAR.

  • @blaketindle4703
    @blaketindle4703 7 месяцев назад +4

    Suns will finish well ahead of old ass LeBron and broken down AD lol

  • @fredbarnes196
    @fredbarnes196 7 месяцев назад +3

    Lakers won’t get injured, The suns will. Simmons being Simmons and discounting Phoenix, again. Suns just schooled the lakers without Booker and Beal….. with great defense. These guys are a hoot.

    • @nupoloo8550
      @nupoloo8550 7 месяцев назад

      Preseason game

    • @fredbarnes196
      @fredbarnes196 7 месяцев назад +1

      @@nupoloo8550 AD is glass, can't deny that.

    • @nupoloo8550
      @nupoloo8550 7 месяцев назад

      @@fredbarnes196 true

  • @EshockT
    @EshockT 7 месяцев назад

    I like Joe’s shirt but it is a thing to wear cuffs unbuttoned? Did he forget to roll them up? Would annoy me.

  • @JD-ck6vg
    @JD-ck6vg 7 месяцев назад

    "I like Plumlee against Jokic" Russillo please be real

  • @alonsoperez3547
    @alonsoperez3547 7 месяцев назад

    phx top 10 def

  • @shmadeshlimore3322
    @shmadeshlimore3322 7 месяцев назад +1

    I was understanding about the Suns takes until I heard all that nonsense about the Lakers. I don’t know why all of a sudden we should pretend AD is any more durable than Zion I mean what is going on here

  • @Cinnamon015
    @Cinnamon015 7 месяцев назад +1

    look at these old timers giving their basketball opinions. i love it

  • @haberzach1
    @haberzach1 7 месяцев назад

    Not to gas the Dubs, but they also have a healthy Payton all year

  • @nexus8339
    @nexus8339 7 месяцев назад +2

    6:33 this is the funniest most absurd thing I heard in this podcast. Comparing Beal with Shamet and their skillsets would now make a difference in the Denver Series. Remember, Shamet one us one game where he scored 19points. Imagine Beal doing more of that CONSISTENTLY. THINK ABOUT THAT BILL.
    TBF I don't disagree with the Under prediction because Playoffs are more important for this team.

    • @adamsmith9080
      @adamsmith9080 7 месяцев назад

      agreed. they went to 6 with shamet. if they had beal, imagine the damage the thermonuclear booker could’ve done. nuggets wins weren’t even really convincing in that series other than the close out. the suns were still right there KNOWING they couldn’t win because their starting lineup had payne shamet and landale

  • @douglasmurphy3266
    @douglasmurphy3266 7 месяцев назад

    Ishbia is building a $100m practice facility for wnba players making less than UPS drivers, he might be trying to generate red ink on purpose.

  • @tadejpeckaj1151
    @tadejpeckaj1151 7 месяцев назад

    Shitting over Suns.. music to my ears 😂

  • @mathewban
    @mathewban 7 месяцев назад +1

    Suns have the 3 of the most efficient players in the league. These guys are going to be dangerous. We have players that play D. Suns have one of the best benches in the league. Ppl better hope they all have a bad game

  • @joseledezedma1014
    @joseledezedma1014 7 месяцев назад +9

    Suns are better than the lakers and nuggets.Three guys that have averaged thirty hasn’t been done

    • @LeGoatJames111
      @LeGoatJames111 7 месяцев назад

      No they’re not nigga foh. Phoenix couldn’t beat denver and didn’t even get to the Lakers, how are they better? They’re at best 4th in the west. Top 3 are the Lakers, Nuggets & Grizzlies

    • @I_love_burnt_toast
      @I_love_burnt_toast 7 месяцев назад +1

      They won't each average 30. Tatum/Brown/Porzingiz will average more total pts and play better d.

    • @hoppy23
      @hoppy23 7 месяцев назад +1

      Never been done and it won't be done... if we go off past seasons it's been done many times but let's think it's more likely that none of the 3 will average 30 ppg this year then all 3 do it

    • @joseledezedma1014
      @joseledezedma1014 7 месяцев назад

      @@I_love_burnt_toast I said have like previously

    • @joseledezedma1014
      @joseledezedma1014 7 месяцев назад

      @@hoppy23 I said averaged as in past tense

  • @Theinsideoutsider
    @Theinsideoutsider 7 месяцев назад

    Nurkic is for laxk of a better term "not good"

    • @ki2726
      @ki2726 7 месяцев назад

      Neither is Ayton and he’s more expensive

    • @Theinsideoutsider
      @Theinsideoutsider 7 месяцев назад

      @@ki2726 bro you cant compare atton to nurkic.. ayton is 10x better.. younger... More skilled.. better defender.. theres a reason he has better averages and is being paid more

  • @scottipippen6554
    @scottipippen6554 7 месяцев назад +1

    "Beal is not afraid of missing some games.."- made my day, lol.
    Misic and Vezenkov can play, guys. To compare them with Campazzo, is just disrespectful. Euroleague MVPs are good, really good. Some lack a little bit defense ability like Vezenkov, but i can name several NBA "stars" who do aswell. Misic is an overall player like Luka, can do it all. Not on the same level, but if he gets minutes with OKC, he will produce and guide the young team..
    I don`t get in general, how Euroleague MVPs are not taken serious. Toni Kukoc was a 2time MVP, was a potential franchise player, if he would have got his own team in his prime. Petrovic the same. Why Portland drafted him in the first place and keept him for several years to warm the bank, is beyond me. We saw what he can do with the Nets, unfortunateley he was taken way to early from us. And how many doubted Luka a few years ago, is still comical to me. He dominated Europe being 18/19 years old. To think that he could not produce in the NBA, was simply hilarious. If guys would have driven over and actually watched him play for more than 2 minutes live with Real or SLovenia, not one single sane GM should have passed on him. Let alone the Suns, having the no.1 draft..

  • @frbs2255
    @frbs2255 7 месяцев назад +2

    Beal = Landry Shamet. smh

  • @Bossanovawitcha
    @Bossanovawitcha 7 месяцев назад +11

    Beal and Goodwin.. Goodwin is young Marcus Smart

    • @detnibul9361
      @detnibul9361 7 месяцев назад +5

      You're 100%. Goodwin IS a younger Marcus Smart minus the flopping

  • @km13watch
    @km13watch 7 месяцев назад +4

    Kings say hi

    • @LeGoatJames111
      @LeGoatJames111 7 месяцев назад

      Unfortunately not gonna be better than the Lakers

    • @EBizz85
      @EBizz85 7 месяцев назад

      Don't listen to the media... nothing but hate no matter what

  • @krugonitro
    @krugonitro 7 месяцев назад +1

    you guys haven’t kept up with our depth

    • @silewis9396
      @silewis9396 7 месяцев назад

      Our? How the hell is anyone supposed to know who that means

    • @krugonitro
      @krugonitro 7 месяцев назад

      @@silewis9396 who is the video about?

  • @andersonwilliams9774
    @andersonwilliams9774 7 месяцев назад

    All you keep hearing these guys say is who playing LeBron or Tatum so my question is who sticking kd booker or beal

    • @daveclark8337
      @daveclark8337 26 дней назад

      The TWolves will stick all of them in a first round Sweep by an average cakewalk score of 118- 103.

  • @magnuslinde9543
    @magnuslinde9543 7 месяцев назад +1

    Magic Johnson looks pregnant.

  • @bdbd1390
    @bdbd1390 7 месяцев назад

    Damn, they really have the team who won the division last year. So low!

    • @EBizz85
      @EBizz85 7 месяцев назад

      Media pissed they did good and always discredit how good they were by blaming injuries on other teams

  • @qthe6thman
    @qthe6thman 7 месяцев назад

    KD will be out for 2 months by December. Bradley Beal will get frustrated with shot selection. Booker will have a solo MVP run and flame out by playoffs.

  • @sloanNYC
    @sloanNYC 7 месяцев назад +2

    Lakers, I don't trust LeBron and AD to stay healthy... but they certainly have a lot of pieces that can fill in that can score.

    • @LeGoatJames111
      @LeGoatJames111 7 месяцев назад

      AD playing 65 plus this year guaranteed

  • @emanuelcorreia4228
    @emanuelcorreia4228 7 месяцев назад +2

    Obviously, you guys above don't like the Suns very much, do you? Because you're not talking objectively here at all...the Suns just gave the Lakers a beaten the other night where the Suns bench OUTPLAYED the Lakers starters for most of the game, Booker and Beal didn't even play.... LOL....but you're sitting here talking about KD's injury over the years, instead of focusing on this current Suns roster which is one of THE best rosters if not THE best in the league currently. You're talking about the Suns like they're the worst team in the league??? Are they?? Nurkic is better than Ayton and secondly the Suns acquired Nurkic for FIT purposes, the Suns did not acquire Nurkic so he can jump from the free throw line and dunk the ball like Michael Jordan did...lol...do you get where am going with this??? Nurkic offers IQ and a post presence not seen in the Suns uniform for years...instead we Suns fans have had to deal with a SOFT Ayton, low IQ Ayton! You guys above, please get your facts straight before you talk about the Suns at all...

  • @NatureWar1
    @NatureWar1 7 месяцев назад

    If Nurkik is trash.... his numbers are already better than Aton.

  • @daveclark8337
    @daveclark8337 26 дней назад

    Sean Hayes doesn't follow sports and he didn't know who the Smartless guest was going to be. And even to this day, he still probably doesn't understand who Bill Simmons is.

  • @cousinwil5808
    @cousinwil5808 7 месяцев назад +2

    Lakers are gonna be the 6 seed at best. Mr Glass and LeGrandpa probably aren’t playing 50 games together, Rui has played 3 good basketball games ever, Reeves is Jeremy Lin 2.0, Russel… really? Gee, how did you land Wood on a minimum contract? Oh, because no one wanted him? Nice!

  • @Johnny_Zoom
    @Johnny_Zoom 7 месяцев назад +1

    The Kings are winning over 50 this year stop it.

  • @michaellockhart6632
    @michaellockhart6632 7 месяцев назад

    The Suns are lacking defense. They don't have Crowder, they don't have Bridges, they don't have a point guard, their center sucks, they are not a good regular season team.
    Phoenix had all that and dominated in 22' with 64 freaking regular season wins...
    and then games 6 and 7 against Dallas.
    Phoenix is built for the playoffs, period.
    How can these guys gloss over Lebron's age and availability but make dire predictions for KD and his age. It's the same ageism that Suns fans heard the entire time CP3 was there, yet Chris Paul led them to the finals. I really wish that he didn't pull his groin game 1 against Denver because it would have been a different story if he and Ayton stuck around for the rest of that series. Maybe let's see if Denver has title hangover and fall well shy of a repeat because that is common in the NBA, and repeats are much more rare to see.

  • @ayooot5850
    @ayooot5850 7 месяцев назад +2

    If you hate on Kd u shouldn’t cover em cus clearly mfs bias

  • @user-qv1jx3ss8x
    @user-qv1jx3ss8x 7 месяцев назад

    House is dazzling

  • @patmurphy8622
    @patmurphy8622 7 месяцев назад

    Yerrrrrrr

  • @17NateJohnson
    @17NateJohnson 7 месяцев назад +2

    Lebron is overrated now. He’s still high IQ, but his post-sweep tantrum was a direct result of realizing he wasn’t the best player in the series by a long way.

  • @Kermit_T_Frog
    @Kermit_T_Frog 7 месяцев назад

    Nurkic "sucks"? I doubt if there is another center in the league that can compete with him in rebounds, blocked shots, and assists. Scoring, well that's mediocre, at best. Not sure how to measure his worth on defense. Bad defensive rating. OK plus/minus. I'm guessing that this is regarding to his play in the last few seasons. Still, he's only 29 years old.

    • @mavssami41
      @mavssami41 7 месяцев назад

      In the modern nba
      ...he's useless

    • @Kermit_T_Frog
      @Kermit_T_Frog 7 месяцев назад

      @@mavssami41 Unlike Ayton, he seems to have developed a 3 pt shot. He is a better passer. He even has slightly better rebounding numbers. About the same number of blocks. I think Ayton is better, but all I see in him is a traditional center. And not an especially good one.

  • @gilbertarballo
    @gilbertarballo 4 месяца назад

    That Lakers will bully the f out of them take aged well 🤡

  • @christianakaneyap180
    @christianakaneyap180 7 месяцев назад

    BILL SIMMONS ALWAYS HAS TO COMPARE ANYTHING TO THE CELTICS.
    LAST YEAR HE LOVES MARCUS SMART, NOW HE IS CHOPPED LIVER.
    THAT BEING SAID I STILL LIKE BILL SIMMONS, ITS JUST TOO MUCH CELTICS SHIT.
    THATS WHY I LIKE RUSSILO WITH HIM. HE EVENS HIM OUT.

  • @jdankerdake
    @jdankerdake 7 месяцев назад

    Finally, a reasonable assessment of Phoenix.

  • @I_love_burnt_toast
    @I_love_burnt_toast 7 месяцев назад

    The suns offense is nothing compared to boston's.

  • @holstorrsceadus1990
    @holstorrsceadus1990 7 месяцев назад

    People I have to trade in my keeper league this year: KD, James Harden, and Joel Embiid.

  • @andysauro1500
    @andysauro1500 7 месяцев назад

    Sacramento will be the #1 seed in the Western Conference. Warriors will win the Western conference. Screen cap this.

    • @daveclark8337
      @daveclark8337 26 дней назад

      I screencapped it. Both the Kings and Warriors missed the playoffs, so you were horribly wrong.

  • @PeteMD
    @PeteMD 7 месяцев назад +1

    Warriors roster is as good as it has ever been wout KD/Igoudala super team years. It’s just the stars aren’t at peak power anymore outside of Curry. But…
    Curry, CP3, GPII, Moody
    Klay, Wiggins, Kuminga,
    Dray, Looney, Saric
    That is loaded. Obviously a rim running big even in the JaVale mold is what everyone is thinking they need. Maybe they get one in season. But other than that the roster is missing nothing.

  • @QbanLos
    @QbanLos 7 месяцев назад +1

    Suns haters

    • @davofidie6897
      @davofidie6897 7 месяцев назад

      so suns are guaranteed to win the title ?

    • @QbanLos
      @QbanLos 7 месяцев назад

      @@davofidie6897Is that what you understood from me? Since you’re asking- Best chance to win hands down in the entire league if everyone stays healthy

  • @stevenprieto6307
    @stevenprieto6307 7 месяцев назад +1

    I think Lebron is hoping for an NBA Championship/Olympics gold medal double whammy to retire on.
    How do you one up a retirement farewell season? Make it global