REACTING to *The Patriot (2000)* SO INSPIRATIONAL!! (First Time Watching) War Movies

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Комментарии • 439

  • @whitenoisereacts
    @whitenoisereacts  Год назад +47

    What other movies have you seen Heath Ledger in??

    • @amandafox8603
      @amandafox8603 Год назад +15

      "10 things I hate about you"
      "Lords of Dogtown"
      "Brothers Grim"
      "A Knights Tale"

    • @Phelddagrif1998
      @Phelddagrif1998 Год назад +9

      The Dark Knight! The best movie he is in and what he is the most known for by far.

    • @reesebn38
      @reesebn38 Год назад +4

      @@amandafox8603 Yep I saw all of those. People forget when Heath was alive everyone loved watching him in a movie. Those are all good movie BTW.

    • @EChacon
      @EChacon Год назад +9

      The Dark Knight, 10 things I hate About You (which you guys need to react to and release on the channel).

    • @barrymoreblue
      @barrymoreblue Год назад +3

      10 Things I Hate About You and A Knight’s Tale are my favorites.

  • @KillingJoke96
    @KillingJoke96 Год назад +59

    Jason Isaacs who plays Tavington says this is one of his favorite roles that he's ever done.
    Every 4th of July he posts a cheeky picture of himself as Tavington with fun captions like "Happy Birthday Traitors" and "I tried to help...you are on your own" 😂

  • @cjdavis2684
    @cjdavis2684 Год назад +81

    they were Thomas's toy soldier's. that you saw him painting at the beginning. His father took the bag of them and was melting them into musket balls to use in Thomas's honor

  • @tommcdonald5958
    @tommcdonald5958 Год назад +107

    You mentioned some of the soldiers not looking when firing. With the flintlock muskets, the flint that lights the black powder sits right next to your eyes when firing. Some would line up the shot and look away right before firing to avoid any injuries to their eyes (which did happen). This was solved with the percussion cap that replaced the flint, which you saw in "Glory" and was in wide use by the mid-1800s.

    • @joshwoodard1692
      @joshwoodard1692 Год назад +8

      I said the same thing to myself when he was like why u looking away 😂

    • @marksullivan2978
      @marksullivan2978 Год назад

      @@joshwoodard1692 yup

    • @Acadian.FrenchFry
      @Acadian.FrenchFry Год назад +7

      And this is why I love reading comments. I learn cool things like this.

  • @barrymoreblue
    @barrymoreblue Год назад +158

    The “papa, don’t go” scene gets me every time. 😭

  • @johnfrilando2662
    @johnfrilando2662 Год назад +39

    That the young sons were accurate marksmen would not be a surprise. They would have been accomplished hunters of game by that age.

    • @Fmanzo10
      @Fmanzo10 Год назад +9

      Yep, and most of what they hunted would be small animals. Like rabbits, squirrels and birds. Much more difficult to shoot than larger game.

    • @davehoward22
      @davehoward22 11 месяцев назад

      @@Fmanzo10 A man and two kids wouldn't wipe out a british army division

    • @ludwigmises
      @ludwigmises 6 месяцев назад

      @@davehoward22It was just a small detail, not a division. And one of the Achilles heels of the European way-of-fighting was that the troops weren’t encouraged to take initiative; if the officers were taken out, the troops were basically adrift. So they targeted officers with the opening shots.

  • @alexanderb5726
    @alexanderb5726 Год назад +42

    The flutes were indeed real. The melody they play at the battle by the mansion is the "British grenadiers" which has been a traditional military song in the British army for centuries. The happy melodies were meant to strengthen morale and take the edge off of brutal combat.

    • @kelduarjudgester9083
      @kelduarjudgester9083 Год назад +2

      Whenever I think of battle melody’s I for some reason think of the Barney theme song over cannons plowing through infantry 🤷🏼‍♂️😅

    • @ericc8705
      @ericc8705 Год назад +4

      The banners and flags as well the musicians (typically drummers and brass instruments like bugles) were important parts of the battle because the actions of the flags and banners also sent messages to the rest of the troops - orders from the commanding officers. Iit wasn't ONLY for moral support ... but also served as a way of communicating orders during a battle. The direction a flag was being carried indicated if the line was retreating or advancing ... as did specific drum-beats and musical pieces being sounded by the bugle-player

    • @reefconvy7291
      @reefconvy7291 Год назад

      I remember it being used in the opening scene of Barry Lyndon.

    • @tduffy5
      @tduffy5 Год назад

      @@kelduarjudgester9083 Not flutes. Fifes, as in Fife and Drum Corps.

  • @BlyatBlaster
    @BlyatBlaster Год назад +109

    13:47 they took a little liberty with Tavington. But he’s based on the real life officer Bannistar Tarleton. Who the Americans nicknamed “Bloody Bann.” He had a reputation for being especially ruthless and brutal in combat. A very efficient officer.

    • @Phelddagrif1998
      @Phelddagrif1998 Год назад +16

      He was also nicknamed The Butcher but not because he was specifically ruthless but that he let his other Dragoons kill and execute surrendering Colonials which is just as bad as doing it himself if not even worse.

    • @johnnyfive4436
      @johnnyfive4436 Год назад +1

      @@Phelddagrif1998 He also burned houses as well didn't he?

    • @gk5891
      @gk5891 Год назад +10

      Yes.
      I also believe Mel Gibson's character is inspired by "The Swamp Fox" Francis Marion although in actuality he died childless.

    • @self-awaregunship6869
      @self-awaregunship6869 Год назад +4

      @@gk5891 He is indeed.

    • @sivonni
      @sivonni Год назад +8

      There's a term called "Tarleton's Quarter" which means "a brutal death at the hands of a cowardly foe". Basically, he made his family name synonymous with brutality and cowardice equally. What a legacy.

  • @sivonni
    @sivonni Год назад +24

    The young actors playing the children were so good and went on to act in a lot of other movies. Most don't recognize the youngest brother as Logan Lehrman, for instance.

    • @samellowery
      @samellowery Год назад +2

      Unfortunately the young girl died I think when she was only 20 or so.

  • @chihuahuagirl128
    @chihuahuagirl128 Год назад +34

    This movie was a piece of my childhood, despite it being pretty dark & gruesome. But I watched this a lot despite that, especially on the 4th of July

    • @johnnyfive4436
      @johnnyfive4436 Год назад +2

      There is a good series on RUclips that is eight parts about the Revolutionary War from the history channel. I watch it every forth as well and it's a good history doc. One of there best ones. I recommend it if you haven't seen it.

  • @reesebn38
    @reesebn38 Год назад +53

    I saw The Patriot in the theatre. Mel Gibson has Starred & directed in some of the best war movies, "Gallipoli", "Braveheart", "We Were Soldiers", "Hacksaw Ridge". These movies are all based on true stories. I became a Mel Gibson fan from day one back in 1980-81 when I saw Mad Max & Gallipoli. If you ever want to see a pure Aussie film Gallipoli. Gallipoli was the worst battle to happen to Australia, and one of the most love films by Australians.

    • @Phelddagrif1998
      @Phelddagrif1998 Год назад +5

      Mad Max Road Warrior is one of the best 80’s movies in the whole decade I would say top 5

    • @MaceGill
      @MaceGill Год назад +3

      Ooo a Gallipoli reference!

    • @shykorustotora
      @shykorustotora Год назад +2

      To be fair, Apocalypto and Braveheart are terribly inaccurate to the point where it's a borderline insult

    • @bobsit1945
      @bobsit1945 Год назад +3

      Battle Of Gallipoli was about an Australian Army unit recruited mainly in the Perth Western Australia area.
      When the movie came out, I was deployed on the USS John F Kennedy, and we were making a Port Call to the area, and I saw the movie in one of the local theaters.

    • @RobynHoodeofSherwood
      @RobynHoodeofSherwood Год назад +4

      I think Rob Roy with Liam Neeson is a better movie than Braveheart. I still like Braveheart too, though.

  • @alankoemel3168
    @alankoemel3168 Год назад +10

    The final battle scene is based on the actual Battle of Cowpens in South Carolina. Cornwallis did have distain for militia, so the Americans used that against him. The militia set up in front of the regular army. And when the militia retreated, the British followed them right into a trap.

    • @Archangel-cw7mq
      @Archangel-cw7mq Год назад +1

      It's based on a combination of the Battle of Cowpens as well as the Battle of Guilford Courthouse. Cornwallis wasn't present at Cowpens. Tarleton was present at both battles, but he was the one in command at Cowpens, as this was during the time he was detached from Cornwallis in his pursuit of Morgan across the countryside. Both battles included a draw maneuver to pull the British into a trap. The element portrayed of "hating the militia" is a composite as well, with the "rash charge" being from Cowpens, where Tarleton attacked Morgan's forces without waiting with his exhausted troops, and was drawn into three lines of resistance that crippled almost his entire army, and the part of the militia implementing an intentional retreat into lines of regulars was from Guilford, against Cornwallis, at the command of Greene, where Cornwallis' units were drawn into enfilade fire and suffered heavy casualties and halted charges.
      It's worth noting, that Cornwallis actually won the Battle of Guilford Courthouse, but it was a pyrrhic victory, as he destroyed his army doing so.

  • @DougRayPhillips
    @DougRayPhillips Год назад +31

    In the reaction to Glory, you were talking about lines of infantrymen standing or kneeling straight across from each other and blazing away. That was a standard tactic, going all the way back to spear or bow and arrow days.
    The distances the armies are standing from each other in the open field battles in this film are appropriate for the weapons they had.
    Ninety years later, in the 1860s, smoothbore muskets had been replaced by rifled muskets machined to tighter tolerances. But despite the greater accuracy, armies tended to still form at those short distances. So that was a slaughter.

    • @everfaithful9272
      @everfaithful9272 Год назад

      Engagement distances are always way off in any type of media. Typical engagement distance for smoothbore muskets was 100 yards, or the length of a football field, up to 200 yards. The average engagement distance for rifles was 200 yards during the battle of Gettysburg, 300 yards during World War 2, with 10% of engagements at 700 yards or more. In movies it looks like the combatants are about 40 yards from each other regardless of the time period. I think this is done so that when you cut to the master you can get both sides in the same shot for dramatic effect. A little more difficult to do when the enemy is a dot in the distance. They may have a sniper fire from 100 yards away (see Saving Private Ryan) but regular grunts usually gun each other down at 25 yards point blank range or less. Same goes for helicopters etc. I've found that it's safe to say when someone in a war movie is shooting something, multiply the engagement distance by 10 and you get and accurate idea of the real life situation. Movie shotgun 5 yards = real life shotgun 50 yards. Movie musket 20 yards = real life musket 200 yards. Movie sniper 100 yards = real life sniper 1000 yards.

  • @FollowingGhost
    @FollowingGhost Год назад +11

    The rocking chairs used were made by a master builder in Tennessee. The problem on set was he built them so well they wouldn't break. The prop crew had to cut them almost apart before they could get the shot.

  • @JCastle12495
    @JCastle12495 Год назад +18

    Mel Gibsons acting, especially when Gabriel dies is always amazing to me. The Last of the Mohicans" and "The Alamo" are Also good.

  • @johnnywells5341
    @johnnywells5341 Год назад +6

    Guys, I hate to be critical, but when he says “Gates spent too much time in the British Army”, almost all of the officers in the colonial army were British officers at one time. George Washington was a Colonel in the British army.

    • @roguechevelle
      @roguechevelle Год назад +1

      yeah this movie has a lot of historical inaccuracies, like a lot and should be seen as just a movie. It's unfortunate that people don't know that most of the time going into it.

  • @lilJ4Y10989
    @lilJ4Y10989 Год назад +7

    “My sons were better men” it was at this moment he knew he fucked up

  • @leeneufeld4140
    @leeneufeld4140 6 месяцев назад +2

    The first scene where he throws the chair after it breaks tells us as soon as the movie starts that this man has a temper, and even his children are involved in helping him control it.

  • @johnfrilando2662
    @johnfrilando2662 Год назад +21

    You are right that the film is fiction but some of the characters are composites of real life people. Gibson's character is a representation of The Swamp Fox. The calvary officer is supposed to be Colonel Tarrington a brutal British officer. The historical events in South Carolina are pretty accurate as are the battles.

    • @RobynHoodeofSherwood
      @RobynHoodeofSherwood Год назад +1

      Leslie Nielsen (yes, the guy from Airplane) played Frances Marion in a Disney series called The Swamp Fox back in the day. I don't know if it's possible to find it anywhere.

    • @captin3149
      @captin3149 Год назад

      @@RobynHoodeofSherwood Some of it is on RUclips. It's not the greatest quality, but it's there. ruclips.net/video/-SBPnw5riLM/видео.html

  • @thejamppa
    @thejamppa Год назад +8

    When I saw this 20 years ago, I was completely Gabriels side. Now As I am older and what I have seen... I am Benjamin's side when they argue about Gabriels joining in army. This film has really well written characters, who act and speak of their age. And the range of emotions you see in Gibsons eyes during this performance is sheer astonishing. He and Denzel are actors who can play range of emotions without a word and let their eyes do the communicating.

  • @ironhide238
    @ironhide238 Год назад +15

    Most gunshot wounds at the time, including during the American Civil War, were not actually fatal. Usually it was gangrene or the wrong treatment methods, because amputations were often carried out or the surgical instruments were not disinfected. As I said with Glory, a musket isn't exactly accurate. Many just played dead even though they weren't hit. the wars at that time were fought in a very gentlemanly manner with music etc. a gigantic chess game in principle.

    • @davehoward22
      @davehoward22 11 месяцев назад

      Infection was usually down to dirty clothing being pushed deep into the wound with the musketball.

  • @jcarlovitch
    @jcarlovitch Год назад +6

    Back then when you fired a musket you had to look the other way to avoid going blind from powder burns. Just in front of the rear sight was the musket pan where the powder charge was located and when struck by the gunflint it would send sparks back into your face and eyes if you did not look away.

  • @zacharyharwell351
    @zacharyharwell351 Год назад +5

    I think one of the "sins" Martin refers to in the opening lines is the sin of Wrath. There are several moments that allude to things he did that he regretted during war, and the scene where he mounts that one Redcoat who tried to run away and he just eviscerates the poor guy in a rage shows how deeply he can fall into that Wrath.

  • @folcotook3049
    @folcotook3049 Год назад +5

    The depictions of the major line combat battles are fairly accurate to how battles were fought at this time.

  • @shadowchsr79
    @shadowchsr79 Год назад +2

    I love Jason Isaacs because he can ply such amazing villains. He fully comics to the character he plays and he once said in an interview he plays them from the point of view that they don't see themselves as a villain. If you think about it we are all the heros in our own story so someone as we see as a villain will not see themselves that way. It really pays off in those kind of roles.

  • @missjillmars
    @missjillmars Год назад +7

    This movie is so sad and so good!
    I'm not sure if anyone has recommended this one yet, but The Last of the Mohicans is a great movie that takes place during the French and Indian War. And the soundtrack is absolutely incredible. Definitely worth a watch.

  • @tinahastie
    @tinahastie Год назад +14

    I had to study this movie in school. I cried my eyes out at the church scene. Looking forward to your reactions!

    • @jamesalexander5623
      @jamesalexander5623 Год назад +6

      I believe that never happened in the Revolution. But there is a report of the Nazis doing it in WW II in Czechosloviaka!

    • @reefconvy7291
      @reefconvy7291 Год назад +1

      ​@@jamesalexander5623You are right. That never happened and it was in fact inspired by something the Nazis did in WW2. It was added in to make the British look more evil. It might be the most controversial scene in the whole film.

    • @k.o.h3599
      @k.o.h3599 Год назад

      @@jamesalexander5623 yes, the scene rather closely copies a scene from the Belarusian WWII Film 'Come and See'.

  • @Deepthoughtsabound
    @Deepthoughtsabound Год назад +10

    Mel is melting down his dead son's figures and making them bullets. It's a symbol of his payback for his son's death.

  • @jonathang9705
    @jonathang9705 Год назад +3

    The big battle at the end, the Battle of Cowpens, happened as shown in the film where the Americans purposefully put militia in the center of their line, knowing the British had no respect for them. When the militia pretended to retreat the British believed the ruse as they had seen it before and were drawn into an ambush and defeated. The murder of the wounded prisoners was probably inspired by the Battle of Waxhaws, where Banastre Tarleton's dragoons murdered surrendering American troops and killed the wounded on the ground, apparently erroneously believing their commander had been killed when his horse was shot out from under him.

  • @nickmanzo8459
    @nickmanzo8459 Год назад +10

    I would highly recommend watching the movie version of 1776. It’s a musical about the Congress debating their positions on the revolution and Independence. It’s not historically accurate entirely, but it’s a lot of fun, and intense when it needs to be.

    • @jamesalexander5623
      @jamesalexander5623 Год назад +3

      They are showing on the 4th of July on TCM! It's a Tradition on Turner Classic Movies, and I never Miss it! The Founding Fathers and Mothers Singing and Dancing their way to Independence is one of my Guiltiest Pleasures! And Yes Intense "Molasses to Rum to Slaves" is one of the most riveting scenes ever put on film!

  • @kampinak
    @kampinak Год назад +23

    this is a great movie with Mel Gibson and Jason Isaacs putting in iconic performances, love the music theme of this movie too :) hope you guys check out Kingdom of Heaven at some point as well its an epic movie that not many reactors have done :)

  • @fcastrotero
    @fcastrotero Год назад +8

    37:19 they are looking away because firing a musket could potentially blind you. Nowadays, weapons such as rifles have the powder in the cartridge, and the weapon itself has a system to propely dispose of the detonation so the weapon can work properly. Muskets back then, but, were basically small cannons: you loaded them with powder, a bullet, and you ignited it to create a tiny explosion that would propel the projectile. The problem? Such an explosion close to your eyes (as the face was located dangerously close to the firing pin) could burn your face, even cost you an eye. That's why most soldiers would close their eyes when firing or, as we can see, turning their face alltogether

    • @Phelddagrif1998
      @Phelddagrif1998 Год назад +1

      this is very accurate and extremely well explained good on you sir.

    • @Reaper08
      @Reaper08 Год назад

      Conscripts would but trained volunteer soldiers wouldn't.

  • @dazzmarshall
    @dazzmarshall Год назад +3

    'Turn: Washingtons spies' is an excellent series, if you guys like this setting.

  • @MRLuckyE85
    @MRLuckyE85 Год назад +9

    Great reaction, this movie's one of my faves!
    Regarding looking away while firing, flintlock muskets by design put an explosion of gunpowder right next to the shooter's face, with debris that could enter the eyes under some circumstances. As well, these firearms as of the revolutionary times tended to be unreliable, and turning the head away while discharging the weapon could avert/reduce further injury in the case of malfunction. It wasn't a tactic in any way, but more a realistic reaction to firing these muskets for these guys.

  • @amyeaton882
    @amyeaton882 Год назад +4

    This is one of my favorite movies. To answer your question about the marching music. Others can correct me if I'm wrong, but i believe that the music was used to communicate orders while marching.

    • @jamesalexander5623
      @jamesalexander5623 Год назад +1

      The Music played by the French in the film "Waterloo" is note perfect. .....The actual sheet music still exists!

    • @meminustherandomgooglenumbers
      @meminustherandomgooglenumbers Год назад

      Indeed, Cornwallis’ orders to “band a charge” and “sound the retreat” both refer to communicating the orders to the rank and file with music. But the flags were also important means of communication too.

  • @keithcharboneau3331
    @keithcharboneau3331 Год назад +2

    Actually in those days, one shot musket kills were usually only about 20%, although because of the larger size of the musket balls, (.69 caliber or 690 thousandths of an inch) compared to todays smaller bullets of approximately .308 of an inch on average, those musket balls were MUCH slower velocity ( about 895 FPS) and did far less tissue damage than today's very high velocity bullets, but if fired at less than 75 yards, a head or heart shot would most certainly be instantly lethal, most war wounds were in the arms and legs resulting in lots of amputations on both sides of the conflict, but with the velocities of todays bullets (2900 FPS or more,) brings something that the subsonic balls of the muskets did not have, a supersonic shockwave which surrounds the bullet and is incredibly destructive to human tissue, musket pistols of that era were incredibly underpowered and outside about 5 to 7 yards were rarely fatal with a single shot. but would still ruin your day. most deaths during the revolutionary war were a result of sabre's swords, knives and bayonets', especially with the design of the bayonets' of the day, which were long tapered triangular shaped spikes more or less, getting stuck with a bayonet was nearly 100% lethal, stopping the blood loss from one of those nasty things was all but impossible.

  • @deires77
    @deires77 Год назад +16

    Oh Jeez... getting popcorn, tissues and a strong drink ready (it's evening already where I am so don't you judge me 😜)
    I have watched this movie plenty of times but still have not managed to do so without torrent of tears 💔
    Amazing movie though. Thank you for reacting to it 😊

    • @tinahastie
      @tinahastie Год назад +1

      Where are you from? It's evening for me too. And it's cold!

    • @whitenoisereacts
      @whitenoisereacts  Год назад +1

      I would get popcorn in the morning idc

    • @deires77
      @deires77 Год назад +2

      @@tinahastie Ireland and it's quite cosy here 😉

    • @deires77
      @deires77 Год назад +1

      @@whitenoisereacts 😂

  • @Super_Bowl_Bound_Eagles
    @Super_Bowl_Bound_Eagles 5 месяцев назад +1

    Music was played in battles in order to boost the soldiers morale and even used send to send commands across the battlefield and within camps

  • @Jackie-McCann
    @Jackie-McCann Год назад +2

    53:30 This was the point where my heart shatters and I become a sobbing wreck _every single time._ 🥺😭

  • @emdeeeff
    @emdeeeff Год назад +1

    Other people have mentioned it, but for a little more detail: there are a number of steps involved in firing a musket. Actually, they're pretty similar overall to the steps in firing a modern gun, but the arrangement is different.
    The barrel is basically a tube open at the front and closed at the back. Inside the barrel there's a bullet, with a charge of powder behind it to propel it forward and out. There's a small flash hole at the back, leading to a pan that has a small charge of priming powder in it. Above the pan is a frizzen, which is just a piece of metal for the flint to hit and make sparks.
    So when you fire it, the flint hits the frizzen and makes a little shower of sparks. The sparks fall into the priming powder in the pan, which is effectively just a little metal cup on the side of the gun right in front of your eye, and light it off. Some of the flame from that powder goes through the flash hole to light the main charge to propel the bullet, but the rest just sprays up around, like you'd expect to happen if you fill a thimble with explosive powder and drop sparks on it. Ideally, you'd prefer that to _not_ fly into your eye, or even the rest of your face. So, yeah, you might turn away :)

  • @drtruth8
    @drtruth8 Год назад +2

    One thing I learned when studying colonial and early Republic history (along with how to spot all the inaccuracies in films like this) was that the war was much more brutal than popular depictions like to remember. Some historians recommend calling the Revolution the first Civil War instead. Neighbors who suspected each other of supporting whatever position they were against would murder each other then be killed themselves for revenge. British officers didn’t consider American officers to fall under the accepted code of conduct in Europe so prisoners were tortured and murdered without trial or care. There are only a few times when studying history has made vomit; most of those occasions I was studying the Holocaust or other WW2 events. A lot of this times involved slavery in US. The other times were the Revolution. On the other hand radical ideas of honor and independence were being proposed and implemented. It really is fascinating

  • @tduffy5
    @tduffy5 Год назад +2

    The character Col. Tavington, is patterened after the real Dragoon commander in the area at that time, Lt. Col. Balestre Tarleton. Tarelton WAS saddled with the sobriquet, The Butcher, earned or not. The veracity of the epithet varies with the writer. He was soundly defeated at the Battle of Cowpens.
    The final battle in this film is loosley based on the Battle of Cowpens, not in scene but in tactics. A viewing of one of the many RUclips videos on the Battle of Cowpen, you would find interesting, and, if an American, satisfying.

  • @TheHessian123
    @TheHessian123 10 месяцев назад

    The music freaks you out. Especially when they have bagpipes. That just gives the enemy the shivers.

  • @johnfrilando2662
    @johnfrilando2662 Год назад +2

    After Cornwall's surrender at Yorktown the British troops stacked their arms. It is said that the British band played while they were doing it.
    The song?
    "The World Turned Upside Down"

  • @Mr.Incognito11
    @Mr.Incognito11 10 месяцев назад +1

    Benjamin Martin is based on Francis Marion. Interestingly, the Army Rangers consider him the first Ranger and still study his tactics in combat school

  • @King-rp4xo
    @King-rp4xo Год назад +1

    alot of people would say he is best known for The dark knights joker but his best movie that shows his talents is a Knights Tale

  • @EChacon
    @EChacon Год назад +11

    This is such an awesome reaction you guys and since the Director of this film, Roland Emmerich also did _Independence Day_ hopefully you, Nobu, Hailey and Stella will react to the film next month.

  • @DerekBackofen
    @DerekBackofen 4 месяца назад +1

    This movie will be one of my all time favorites Mel Gibson and Jason Issac rivalry was amazing 10/10 movie

  • @dukerollo1116
    @dukerollo1116 Год назад +3

    Mel gibsons character is based on a real person called the swamp fox from the American Revolution

  • @GRIZZLYSGEAR
    @GRIZZLYSGEAR Год назад +1

    I am going to rewatch this movie before watching your video. It's been a while and it's always better to have as much of the film in your mind when watching these reactions...

  • @lucasrokitowski8707
    @lucasrokitowski8707 Год назад +1

    What is also a great detail is the commander that was ordered to shoot the rebel wounded looked at the kid and you could see a shame in his face.

  • @williamhauber8622
    @williamhauber8622 Год назад +6

    This is such an amazing movie. I was so excited to see this pop up

  • @carbsix
    @carbsix Год назад +6

    Sadly, the actress who played Susan died very young 😢

  • @davidschmitz4300
    @davidschmitz4300 Год назад +2

    What's true about this bit is that the flags were very much used as a rally point, and it was a big thing for a long time to lose the flag of your regiment.
    A great deal of the Congressional Medals of Honor during the Civil War were awarded for taking a Confederate regiment's colors, as that usually meant the regiment was practically wiped out. A similar movie reference would be "Glory", where Colonel Shaw asks who would carry the colors if the bearer should fall.

  • @charmnasesusnajero3377
    @charmnasesusnajero3377 Год назад +1

    I was kinda waiting for James to mention or point out to Nobu that Col. Tavington /Jason Isaacs is Lucius Malfoy because I've seen him do that a couple of times 😁

  • @benji0099
    @benji0099 Год назад +4

    Also, I think it would be helpful to do a little research about the Revolutionary War. There were many British sympathizers in the colonies, even more so in Southern colonies like S.C. Not every colonialist was a revolutionist, and many families still considered themselves British (having only recently left their homeland for America). It wasn't until the Boston Massacre that public opinion really started to turn. And Britain DID initially believe they would win the war fairly easily and would reintegrate the colonies back under their rule, so keeping fairly good relations with colonists was important.

    • @dominicbuckley8309
      @dominicbuckley8309 Год назад

      Even Jefferson admitted that the rebellion was far from universally popular at the beginning: about a third were in favor, about a third wanted to stay with Britain and the rest didn't care either way. It was very much a civil war in all but name, with the British and Loyalist forces having the upper hand until French intervention in 1778.

  • @BlyatBlaster
    @BlyatBlaster Год назад +5

    25:06 they’re better trained in that specific style of combat. The British probably had one of the best armies, and easily the best navy in the world at the time. Only the French, Prussian, and maybe Spain and Russia could compete on an army level. But the Americans couldn’t come close. We only ever had 48,000 men on active duty at a time, and never more than 13,000 in one place. And while the British had only about 55,000 they had much larger reserves to draw from than we did.
    But where the British didn’t excel was in this new “American style” warfare. These guerrilla tactics, frontiersman soldiers, the British couldn’t compete. They had some units that knew how, like the Queens Rangers, but most of the British army was accustomed to “gentlemen’s combat.” With the firing lines and the troop movement.
    The American militias inflicted huge damage to the British war machine using these tactics, but failed miserably when it came to actual open combat. We didn’t even actually win that many battles against the British. I mean, we won a lot, but in the big picture it wasn’t a ton. We just made it too costly for them to keep fighting. Combine that with a few very strategic victories, and that’s how you topple an Empire.

    • @simonorourke4465
      @simonorourke4465 Год назад +3

      Yeah one if the big factors that led to the US victory was that the British were also fighting a full, on war against Napoleon in Europe, and it was much to costly to fight a war in Europe and fight the separatists in America.
      The fight against Napoleon was also seen as much more strategically important as he was conquering swathes of Europe.
      The American colonies were very far away and while they may have been financially important they were much less strategically important to the British at the time.

    • @Reaper08
      @Reaper08 Год назад

      This whole "they believed it was a gentlemen's way of fighting" myth really needs to die.

    • @BlyatBlaster
      @BlyatBlaster Год назад

      @@Reaper08 it’s true though. Maybe not by that term, but this was how the British fought. Because this is just how you’re *supposed* to fight. This is what you do. And the Americans weren’t playing by those rules.

  • @calvinmitchell1274
    @calvinmitchell1274 Год назад +2

    The Character of Mel Gibson, (Ben Martin), is actually based off a real person in the war, Francis Marion. (sp). While Mel's character was called the "Ghost", Francis Marion was called the 'Fox". He did guerilla raids on the British as well. Now I am totally sure 'liberties' were taken with story and other things.

  • @barrymoreblue
    @barrymoreblue Год назад +3

    And when he loses it when Gabriel dies… it’s the end of my strength. I bawl. 😭😭😭😭😭

  • @moondog3056
    @moondog3056 Год назад +2

    So many comments from people who can't separate a Hollywood movie from a documentary.

  • @TheCmducks
    @TheCmducks Год назад +3

    The guns that did not have bayonets were civilian hunting rifles the British called them widow makers because they were rifles they had much longer range than the smooth bore muskets the military used but once the British closed they were at a real disadvantage

  • @johnnyfive4436
    @johnnyfive4436 Год назад +1

    It's interesting to note that the Militia later became the National Guard. It started out in the Revolutionary war with regular people not being in the military but defending there homes.

    • @meminustherandomgooglenumbers
      @meminustherandomgooglenumbers Год назад

      The militia was a form of military, meeting regularly to train and elect leaders. Plus in most of the slaveholding states, militia was actually the primary means of preventing slave revolts.

  • @CrashCraftLabs
    @CrashCraftLabs Год назад +1

    fun fact the censored version covered him in mud at the begining when going nuts on the guy he beat intot he ground, to make it more pg for tv, the og movie covered him in blood and changes the scene... regulations were weird still are.
    and the FPS canon shot was epic haha

  • @Barrie96
    @Barrie96 Год назад

    This is one of the first films I’ve seen where there was a villain who I hated so much. Jason Isaacs is a legendary villain actor.

  • @amberhoward7807
    @amberhoward7807 Год назад +3

    I bawl my eyes out through this whole damn movie..... every single time.... It is definitely a favorite of mine!

  • @tinahastie
    @tinahastie Год назад +3

    47:01 I totally agree! The Brrrrrrrrrrooohooo!! 😂

  • @mikelarsen5836
    @mikelarsen5836 Год назад +2

    Mel Gibson was noted for never being that concerned with historical accuracy in his movies. This one, "Apocalypto" and especially "Braveheart" altered the facts for the plot. Some historians have stated the one movie that is closest to being historically correct is "Passion Of The Christ".

    • @whitenoisereacts
      @whitenoisereacts  Год назад

      He did not direct this movie. As far as Apocalypto, most real historians agree that it was worse in reality than was shown

  • @TheDaringPastry1313
    @TheDaringPastry1313 Год назад +10

    Another movie, just like Glory that I watched in 8th-9th grade history class when we studied the American Revolutionary War. Our teacher also used this movie to show tactics of guerrilla warfare during this time instead of just standing in lines when you didn't have the numbers.

    • @meminustherandomgooglenumbers
      @meminustherandomgooglenumbers Год назад

      That type of activity, often called “skirmishing,” had been in use since time immemorial. In Ancient Greece they actually had separate groups of troops called skirmishers, who would harass opposing armies as they attempted to forage, as well as on the battlefield before battle, attempting to interfere with preparations.

  • @lc8155
    @lc8155 Год назад +3

    Love this reaction. Thanks guys!

  • @jamesedwards2483
    @jamesedwards2483 Год назад

    For My Money, Chris Cooper's Performance In This Is Always Underrated!!

  • @TheHessian123
    @TheHessian123 10 месяцев назад

    Those "Baby Cannons" were actually an early version of mortars. They fire in the air and come down with explosive rounds.

  • @carlaSRC
    @carlaSRC Год назад +2

    You re the Best react channel ever, kiss from a portuguese living in switzerland

  • @josephmontrose6368
    @josephmontrose6368 Год назад +1

    Those people in the village on the coast were not released by the British, in fact the Brits did not know about it. It was near Beaufort, South Carolina. Or Maybe Yakie Island near Georgetown, South Carolina. These people call themselves Gulas today.

  • @gailjohnston1248
    @gailjohnston1248 Год назад

    Watched part of this last night then the rest just now. Speaking as someone from one of the very first original 13 Colonies, ie: Georgia there's lots of History around here. And being that this took place in coastal SC, which Savannah is near. The place where the kids and their Aunt was taken after the burning of her home was farther South of Charleston to one of the Gullah villages. They have just over at Hilton Head and areas nearby a- Gullah Festival every year. (Not that I've gone.) I'm sure they must have others at times in towns around Charleston SC. Another FYI is the actress who plays Aunt Charlotte, is Joely Richardson. Her late sister was- Natasha Richardson, wife of Liam Neeson. They are also the daughters of iconic actress- Vanessa Redgrave of the well known acting Redgrave family. Their Aunt was- Lynn Redgrave. Vanessa R. played- Max in the first Mission:Impossible film. 😊 Her husband is well known actor- Franco Nero. Anyways, this is a great movie even though some parts are tough to watch. MG did a great job overall.

  • @tduffy5
    @tduffy5 Год назад

    Making bullets: That's how it is done on the frontier. The method for making them in large numbers involved dropping the molten lead in precise amounts from a tower, into water. The falling lead takes the shape of a perfect sphere as it falls. By the time it hits the water it has cooled enough to hold it's shape on impact, and further cools in the water. Mass production.

  • @jamesalexander5623
    @jamesalexander5623 Год назад +1

    Attending many Star Trek and Sci-Fi conventions, I was lucky to meet Rene' Auberjonois who played Reverend Oliver ( Starred in Star Trek Deep Space Nine ) and Peter Woodward who played Gen. Charles O'Hara, Cornwallis's Second in Command! ( Starred in Babylon 5 ).

  • @fasiapulekaufusi6632
    @fasiapulekaufusi6632 Год назад

    @55:22 there is a scene which they cut from the movie. Remember the guy who spits tobacco? He says, “Im through” and leaves. A scene shows that he gets caught by the dragoons, they tortured him and he tells them the village that gives aid to Benjamin Martin.

  • @fullmoonprepping4024
    @fullmoonprepping4024 Год назад +1

    The fluting and drumming was a way to communicate to soldiers over distance. It wasn't entertainment but to coordinate movement. Battles were fought traditionally through marksmanship and how fast one could reload. Guerilla tactics were new.

    • @meminustherandomgooglenumbers
      @meminustherandomgooglenumbers Год назад

      Not really new, but maybe unfamiliar to the British. “Skirmishing” had been in use since ancient times, plus lot of modern tactics were actually drawn from native Americans. Sometimes colonists would even refer to it with names such as ”Indian play.”

  • @karlmoles6530
    @karlmoles6530 Год назад

    The Militia was a tradition at this time. It was Militia that fought the first battles of the war at Lexington and Concord

  • @ironman0917
    @ironman0917 Год назад +1

    Mel Gibson's character is very loosely based on a man very well known here in South Carolina. His name was Francis Marion. The "Swamp Fox". His guerrilla tactics tied up and harassed the British Army for a couple of years here in SC. The Colonel Tavington in the movie is loosely based on Colonel Banastre Tarleton, a Dragoon, under the command of Lord Cornwallis. Tarlton is well know as being very ruthless and cold blooded. The final battle scene in the movie is based on an actual battle. The Battle of Cowpens, near the small town of Chesnee, South Carolina, which was a victory for the Americans, and the turning point in the Revolutionary War. Francis Marion was not at this battle, but Tarlton was. Also, Field Marshal Erwin Rommel of the 2nd World War, studied the tactics of Francis Marion the "Swamp Fox" and applied some of them in WW II and hence was to be known as the "Desert Fox". Playing off of Marion's "Swamp Fox" name.

  • @royalzavala8545
    @royalzavala8545 Год назад

    This is one of the best movies that I have ever seen in all my 18 years on this earth.

  • @alexachipman
    @alexachipman Год назад

    Yes, the flute music going into war was a thing, I have an entire album of it - so fascinating.

  • @cmq23
    @cmq23 Год назад

    This was probably my family's favorite war movie. My dad bought the DVD as soon as it was released we'd watch it as a whole family at least once a month for probably 5 years. I can honestly quote practically the whole movie word for word. And little me was crushing big time on Gregory Smith who played Thomas. I've had an irrational anger at Jason Isaacs for killing him off for years. lmao

  • @calebmorrow96
    @calebmorrow96 Год назад

    The rocking chair bit is a wood difference. English oak is a much harder wood than east American pine, and therefore stands up better as furniture.

  • @theawesomeman9821
    @theawesomeman9821 Год назад +1

    You have to give Australia credit for lending their two iconic actors, Mel Gibson and Heath Ledger for this great patriotic American movie.

    • @pizzadohpaz
      @pizzadohpaz Год назад

      Psst, Mel Gibson is American. Maybe you're thinking of Hugh Jackman? Or Russell Crowe?

    • @theawesomeman9821
      @theawesomeman9821 Год назад

      @@pizzadohpaz Mel Gibson was raised in America but his parents are Australian

    • @pizzadohpaz
      @pizzadohpaz Год назад

      @@theawesomeman9821 ahhh I just saw that he was born in NY, so I was confused! Thanks for the explanation

    • @theawesomeman9821
      @theawesomeman9821 Год назад

      @@pizzadohpaz welcome

  • @brittanygidley1291
    @brittanygidley1291 Год назад

    heath ledger was such an amazing actor. also the younger brother with the brown hair, he plays in the movie called small soldiers and disney movie called zenon. the little boy on the right at 17:17 plays in one of the jurassic park movies, the sixth sense, the barney movie with the rainbow egg i watched growing up back in the 90's. guy at 20:47 he plays as dracos dad in harry potter, and he's also hook in the peter pan 2003.

  • @jennabridges3828
    @jennabridges3828 Год назад +1

    “My sons were better men”
    Yassss

  • @clips857
    @clips857 Год назад

    The flags and music are like beacons in the fog of war, you could easily get disoriented and lose your way

  • @joellenglass2344
    @joellenglass2344 Год назад +2

    Aye I want Benjamin Martin as my father and Gabriel, Nathan and Samuel as my brothers!! They got it cracking in this movie! I can’t imagine the trauma of him and his family though. He did what he had to do to try and protect his kids and their aunt, especially after his wife died, even though he initially didn’t want to, but did so when the British came and started some static at his house in front of his kids and killed one without a thought.

  • @dualityofmorons
    @dualityofmorons Год назад +1

    I’ve shot a few of those smooth bore and rifled muskets like they had back then. Looking away was common cause there’s a flash and smoking shooting up right next to your face.

  • @brandonflorida1092
    @brandonflorida1092 Год назад

    Colonel William Tavington, (Jason Isaacs,) is loosely based on the English general Banastre "the butcher" Tarleton. As I recall, he came from a good family but drank and caroused his way through his inheritance quickly then joined the army. I think there's more to it than that, but that's what I remember.

  • @TheKing20501
    @TheKing20501 Год назад

    A little Sad Fact in case people didn`t know already..
    The little Girl "Susan" played by Skye McCole Bartusiak, Passed away in 2014 at the age of 21 in her apartment behind her parents' home. While her mother, shortly after Bartusiak's death, stated she believed that her daughter's history of epileptic seizures may have had a role in her death, the coroner ruled the death resulted from an accidental drug overdose..

  • @stevenulch2764
    @stevenulch2764 Год назад +1

    My birthiversary is on July 4th so thank u for doing this react, it's a great film.

  • @hallieharker4384
    @hallieharker4384 Год назад

    I don't know about the "flutes" (fifes), but buglers and drummer boys had a specific purpose in the army. While the battle was going on, the musicians and the generals would be standing off to the side. When the general would issue an order, of course the fighting men couldn't hear him. So the order would be relayed to the buglers and drummer boys and they would play certain songs and cadences that were coded messages for the fighting men, conveying the general's orders to them.

  • @nickmanzo8459
    @nickmanzo8459 Год назад +1

    The battle they showed with Horatio Gates getting absolutely slaughtered is somewhat of a distortion of the truth: Gates actually had a much larger army, his force was simply made up of several forces that had not fought together, and were much less disciplined. Cornwallis charged them before they had a chance to fully form up, and chaos began in the ranks. Gates ran away so fast, he covered a week’s travel in only three days. Terrible commander, but he made a spectacular chicken.

  • @LeeCarlson
    @LeeCarlson Год назад +1

    Tavick being wounded by Martins' pistol is not plot-armor but an understandable reaction to the concussion of a cannonball exploding behind you.

  • @fgaitanm
    @fgaitanm Год назад

    47:25 she was supposed to say "father" but didn't, because she's never shown a word towards him; she kinda saved them.

  • @johnfrilando2662
    @johnfrilando2662 Год назад +1

    Benjamin was in the French and Indian war. That was a brutal conflict.

    • @jamesalexander5623
      @jamesalexander5623 Год назад

      Both the British and French had Native American Tribal Allies .... I believe the French started paying for scalps as a way to pay them!

  • @JordanJMyers
    @JordanJMyers Год назад

    Was my atleast once a month movie for awhile along with Master and Commander. Such a great movie. Rip Heath

  • @milanradimecky6001
    @milanradimecky6001 Год назад +1

    6lb cannon in most of movie.
    In the last battle howitzers show up.
    "We have a baby cannons"
    Line infantry doctrine was good on the battlefield back then.
    If you have more men, better training and better muskets you would win. But if someone have a cannon it will brake this formations.... Worst thing used during 18-19th century was canister or grapeshot shells in closer range.
    Different nations used different tactics mostly during 16th-18th century.
    Some smaller countries use skirmishers like Prussian's or Habsburg's Jägers or Gebirgsjägers (mountain infantry/mountain huntsmen) which been used like light infantry, recon and saboteur units.
    For example while most countries use mass firepower in line infantry formations Sweden use Go-Pa in first half of 18th century during Northern war against Russia, Saxony and Polish-Lithuania commonwealth.
    While most musketeers stop on 75-100 meters and open fire Swedish Caroleans march on 50 meters where muskets are more accurate and fire first volley then next two ranks change position and march on 25 meters and open fire. Both volley are extremely effective on that close range because Caroleans don't reload as their enemies and just keep marching. They literally march close to enemy open fire and then attack with swords and bayonets at hand to hand combat into demoralised, shaken unit with huge losses.
    And if you are part of unit which face grenadiers on close range you are fucked....