I can't believe the art community still struggles with the "using reference is cheating" discourse. Every industry professional, all famous artists from the past use and have used references. My art improved so much after I started using them. Great tutorial, I also take photos of my hand but hadn't thought of adjusting them with liquify ^^
Actually the "it's ok to use references, even encouraged" trend is relatively recent. In the art community 10-15 years ago it was an unspeakable crime to say you referenced, and you were shunned from most "pro" art forums. I remember watching a Loish livestream (which should be on her youtube too) and she specifically remembers the same fact as well. Using references and drawing "pretty girls" were crimes and you were not considered a true artist if you did them. Ironical how the past couple years saw a shift towards a healthy view regarding using reference :)
its not abt reference its just tracing over printed out images whether they be sketches or real hands. Its not good to clutch on that forever without trying yourself and call it art.
I look at my hand at certain angles and sometimes use my imagination to try to see how hands would work and construct simple basic shapes off of that. I often use 3 palm shapes differentiating based on the perspective of the hand and I usually just freestyle the fingers, but I should use more references. Thank you for being an amazing teacher!
Man you are amazing. You not only showed the problems everyone face not as others face it I am not. I am able to teach them that but as I too face it like all and others like me doing it perfectly. The psychology behind; plus you did it like a challenge and overcome it and how also others should do it too by taking those steps.
Always happy to see someone recommend using references. I got further within the last year using them than I did during my entire school time (art teacher forbid references cause it's "cheating"). Also recommend using websites like quickposes to train the mental library, at some point references become redundant and you'll intuitively know how to draw it
When I draw hands, I like to do a bit of everything. I first make sketches and then try to find photos to help me achieve the hand I like/need for my drawing. If all else fails I use clip studios 3-d models. it's very helpful.
1:46 Best tut for basic hands ever. You can even "perspective bend" that shape and amend the fingers for most poses. Make it 3 dimensional for even better reliability 7:14 Tracing and refing that trace is a possibility... I would recommend drawing hands yourself tho. If you can manage hands. Legs, arms, torso and neck and feet should work too. That only leaves the face. Not a bad forecast.
I’m glad that you do the tracing to figure out the figure and then trying to apply what was traced to your drawing!!!! It’s like you want to use the photo reference as a guidance but still want to help learn and use the tools to draw the hand again in the future
Hands were one of the first things I started practicing when I started drawing people in 2020 so I find I’m not as annoyed by them, same with faces. I still have issues with extremely dynamic poses but it’s easy to understand cause I can just look at my own hands and be like “ oh that’s how that works!” Then translate it into my style. Now full body anatomy, expressions and perspective are currently kicking my ass ngl so I’m trying to force my brain to understand those concepts.
no wayyyy early ,just wanna say i love your videos and it helped me a lot . I had problem drawing hair and a lot of other stuff ,tutorials didnt help until i found yours and then i somehow can draw it lol so thank u for golden content
Thank you so, so much. I’ve been hiding my characters’ hands behind their back or under sleeves lately because I’ve been hesitant. This has helped me want to try harder. 🖤
This is easily the most helpful and practical art tutorial I've seen. Not only did you cover a lot of common mistakes and where they come from, you both explained and directly showed how to actually expand one's "visual library" and make good use of references while working. A huge mental block I was personally running into was less about whether using references was cheating and more about how to actually use them effectively/whether they were even worth it, and your video helped both click almost immediately. Thank you! For anyone scrolling through the comments with a similar mental block, I cannot stress enough just how big of a difference it makes to paste your reference on the drawing itself next to where you're trying to draw. Instead of having to look over from screen to screen to try to figure out what you're even looking at separately from actually drawing it, you're able to do both at the same time, which also helps the "form" of drawing that particular pose stick that much easier in your visual library.
“How do you approach drawing hands?” Raise your hand if you tend to hide them instead 😅🙋🏻♀️ This does get me inspired to practice them though, thank you💕
Yeah I found this out myself too! I take many potential references now and use the best one as Hands are too complex to get without reference. I also think reference is great for all aspects of art!
For me it depends on how much time I have for the hands (and I love drawing hands, so...). If it's a commission I might just use a Clipstudio asset to reference and trace it first, then reference it: I find that tracing as a preliminary step can be surprisingly useful - this is because often how I perceive the photo/3D hand as it is differs from how well it would work as lineart and witnessing it by tracing it removes some preconceptions. If I have more time, I might do a few studies and try different ones on. Chris Oatley once said that artists need to rehearse as much as theatre actors do and I agree: it's pretty good to have a few goes at challenging elements of an illustration to get the best result. Sometimes I just wing it, and sometimes it works really well, sometimes it works really badly!
Can you explain in future videos how colors work? I think for me at least it's not a problem to choose which one, but I can't get nice colors when I want to make a contrast in drawing between strong light and shadow. And I have a problem with choosing when colors have to be darker for aestetic of drawing
I didn’t understand half of what you said when it came to layers and inverting, whatever you said to invert, but, I do love watching you draw and listening to your voice.
Буквально вчера вечером я рисовала новый рисунок и нужно было рисовать руки. В итоге я ПО ПРИВЫЧКЕ сделала несколько фотографий, где отбирала нужное мне положение рук. Просто прекрасно, что метод, который ты используешь для рисования окозывается пользуют в рисовании люди с 10-летнем стажем рисования! (Сама усиленно и вовлеченно рисую только 7-8 лет, иронично сказано 🤣) Спасибо, что пополнили мой багаж знаний по рисованию рук, укрепив выроботанные самостоятельно навыки!
I've always used references for hands and poses. It's hard to come up with them while drawing and make it nice. Eventually you'll learn it and don't need it as often.
I find making a copy of a reference (keep one as the original) and drawing basic shapes on the other helps me draw faster and more accurate than drawing it just through observation. It's like a custom basic hand tutorial. I make traditional art, but there's basic phone apps that allow you to doodle some.
8:35 I'm just going to gloss over this part for myself, that other than observing references closely, what an artist wants out of their drawings/art is often unclear or not very decisive, sometimes we see how the sketch is more exciting than the finished artwork, from either artist or the audience's viewpoint, and maybe stylization isn't all that extreme, but actually subtle things that's less clear than calling a semi-realistic style. I think studying pictures, compositions, hand poses, gestures, that would work in certain cases, is often forgotten part of the study/observation
For people scrolling through the comments--It also may help you to look at the idea of 'grouping' fingers for certain hand poses, and their relationships
ayo it's funny you were on my recommendations and I didn't see your videos before, but I was planning on doing the same approach of making tutorials by showing different emotions of me in anime style lol😂 btw you kinda sound like you're german as well
(Interestingly enough, I got an "Am I gay" quiz ad on this video. Kind of ironic considering the..."subject matter" that this artist sometimes creates.) Even the great Laovaan struggles with hands! I've been watching him and following him for a few years, and he's been a great inspiration. I would also love to see a tutorial on feet and backgrounds with perspective because I royally SUCK at those. I've had a bit of anxiety with references not because I thought it was cheating, but because I thought it won't turn out as good as the reference. But then I remember it's still going to be my own style, not the actual photo.
Thanks for making this video. The first method with the shapes I’m realistically not going to do, because it’s dry to me, but the reference method looks promising. I like the idea of modifying the reference photo with liquify, I’m going to try that.
Danke hast mir sehr geholfen normalerweise mache ich keine fotos von meiner hand sondern gucke sie mir nur an aber oft verkacke ich die Perspektive vielen dank ☺️
I can't believe the art community still struggles with the "using reference is cheating" discourse. Every industry professional, all famous artists from the past use and have used references. My art improved so much after I started using them.
Great tutorial, I also take photos of my hand but hadn't thought of adjusting them with liquify ^^
People who are against using refrence just want people to fail.
Ignore the 'em.
Actually the "it's ok to use references, even encouraged" trend is relatively recent. In the art community 10-15 years ago it was an unspeakable crime to say you referenced, and you were shunned from most "pro" art forums. I remember watching a Loish livestream (which should be on her youtube too) and she specifically remembers the same fact as well. Using references and drawing "pretty girls" were crimes and you were not considered a true artist if you did them.
Ironical how the past couple years saw a shift towards a healthy view regarding using reference :)
its not abt reference its just tracing over printed out images whether they be sketches or real hands. Its not good to clutch on that forever without trying yourself and call it art.
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I needed all of this when I was a new artist, I’m so glad it’s out here now for others who are new right now. It’ll help them TONS. Thank you Laovaan
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your shapes one really helped me honestly ive always found drawing hands so excruciating lmao
The fact that Eren is on the thumbnail 🤩❤️
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OH MY GOD THE PRODUCTION VALUE ASKJDFLAKJSDLKJ so goodddd 😭
THANK YOU! Most other videos just make a straight resting hand and we rarely use that for drawing so thank you
I look at my hand at certain angles and sometimes use my imagination to try to see how hands would work and construct simple basic shapes off of that. I often use 3 palm shapes differentiating based on the perspective of the hand and I usually just freestyle the fingers, but I should use more references. Thank you for being an amazing teacher!
Same. Though I use references more and that helps me a lot
Same here but when it comes to more specific hand shapes I usually use a reference for it 😄
The begining. But thanks! I've been really struggling with hands recently and BOOM! This amazing notification rung.
Man you are amazing. You not only showed the problems everyone face not as others face it I am not. I am able to teach them that but as I too face it like all and others like me doing it perfectly. The psychology behind; plus you did it like a challenge and overcome it and how also others should do it too by taking those steps.
These are a lot of words for "good job"
0:33 I'm just in absolute awe you made that animation.
BEST ‘drawing hands’ tutorial EVER!!! 😃
Always happy to see someone recommend using references. I got further within the last year using them than I did during my entire school time (art teacher forbid references cause it's "cheating"). Also recommend using websites like quickposes to train the mental library, at some point references become redundant and you'll intuitively know how to draw it
Thank you that’s much more useful and easy to understand than the other hand drawing videos on yt. trust me, i’ve seen them all.
You and Sycra are carrying the art side of youtube on your back, I stg I've become a better artist with just this video, alone.
Clicked for the tutorial,also stayed for Eren
When I draw hands, I like to do a bit of everything. I first make sketches and then try to find photos to help me achieve the hand I like/need for my drawing. If all else fails I use clip studios 3-d models. it's very helpful.
Oooh, I think I might try that; thank you
you always have the most helpful tutorials! love your art
You help me a lot at drawing especially since I started doing digital art
1:46 Best tut for basic hands ever.
You can even "perspective bend" that shape and amend the fingers for most poses.
Make it 3 dimensional for even better reliability
7:14 Tracing and refing that trace is a possibility...
I would recommend drawing hands yourself tho.
If you can manage hands.
Legs, arms, torso and neck and feet should work too. That only leaves the face.
Not a bad forecast.
I’m glad that you do the tracing to figure out the figure and then trying to apply what was traced to your drawing!!!!
It’s like you want to use the photo reference as a guidance but still want to help learn and use the tools to draw the hand again in the future
The intro is everything👌✨haha thank you so much for this my fav artist!!
My God, I love your arts so much! Thanks for the tutorial. I was struggling with hands.
Hands were one of the first things I started practicing when I started drawing people in 2020 so I find I’m not as annoyed by them, same with faces. I still have issues with extremely dynamic poses but it’s easy to understand cause I can just look at my own hands and be like “ oh that’s how that works!” Then translate it into my style. Now full body anatomy, expressions and perspective are currently kicking my ass ngl so I’m trying to force my brain to understand those concepts.
I love how relatable this video is, no matter how many tutorials, drawing them from memory is hard
I love your tutorials. You speak so gently, it feels like I have a kind teacher guiding me through my art. Thank you!
no wayyyy early ,just wanna say i love your videos and it helped me a lot . I had problem drawing hair and a lot of other stuff ,tutorials didnt help until i found yours and then i somehow can draw it lol so thank u for golden content
Thank you so, so much. I’ve been hiding my characters’ hands behind their back or under sleeves lately because I’ve been hesitant. This has helped me want to try harder. 🖤
pretty happy that I'm not too shabby when it comes to drawing hands
Honey not now Laovaan just dropped a banger of a tutorial
I feel like I learn so much more from you, than many others I've seen. I don't know, you just seem to understand the struggles more.
This is easily the most helpful and practical art tutorial I've seen. Not only did you cover a lot of common mistakes and where they come from, you both explained and directly showed how to actually expand one's "visual library" and make good use of references while working.
A huge mental block I was personally running into was less about whether using references was cheating and more about how to actually use them effectively/whether they were even worth it, and your video helped both click almost immediately. Thank you!
For anyone scrolling through the comments with a similar mental block, I cannot stress enough just how big of a difference it makes to paste your reference on the drawing itself next to where you're trying to draw. Instead of having to look over from screen to screen to try to figure out what you're even looking at separately from actually drawing it, you're able to do both at the same time, which also helps the "form" of drawing that particular pose stick that much easier in your visual library.
Been a lurker for 9 years and been learning from your videos for years
Thank you^w^
As soon as I was with draw the hands, this video came up. Thank you so much!!!!
You are incredible that intro was amazing
“How do you approach drawing hands?”
Raise your hand if you tend to hide them instead 😅🙋🏻♀️
This does get me inspired to practice them though, thank you💕
THANK YOU SO MUCH!!!!!! You have no idea how much I needed this!!!!! You're amazing btw!
Yay hand tutorial :DDD thank you again for posting, Laovaan!
Dude, your hands are really pretty. Congratulations 😰
The intro shows the problem!!! Thank you for playfully getting into it since it's painful for most to get to it.
Oh HELL yes, I love your tutorials _let's go!_
this is LITERALLY WHAT I NEEDED OMG THANK YOU
This was the way i was doing it and i thought it was "wrong" so i hoped in this video to see how most people do it. It feels good to know this
I had always cursed clip studio's lack of liquify tool. I had no idea they had added it in an update. So thanks for that.
Yeah I found this out myself too! I take many potential references now and use the best one as Hands are too complex to get without reference. I also think reference is great for all aspects of art!
The intro is the best 😂😂
Thank u for your tips
a hand tutorialll?!?! omg this is perfect !
16 years old me drawning hand i still drawn it with round shape and now I've learned how to draw it properly thanks
As a grade 5 artist 🎨 I'm so glad that you made this video you made my months
For me it depends on how much time I have for the hands (and I love drawing hands, so...). If it's a commission I might just use a Clipstudio asset to reference and trace it first, then reference it: I find that tracing as a preliminary step can be surprisingly useful - this is because often how I perceive the photo/3D hand as it is differs from how well it would work as lineart and witnessing it by tracing it removes some preconceptions.
If I have more time, I might do a few studies and try different ones on. Chris Oatley once said that artists need to rehearse as much as theatre actors do and I agree: it's pretty good to have a few goes at challenging elements of an illustration to get the best result.
Sometimes I just wing it, and sometimes it works really well, sometimes it works really badly!
your instructions are simple and easy to understand, thankss Kite, first time hearing you have a yt channel
Wow, two uploads this close together?! Thank you so much!!!
I’m horrible at drawing hands, it’s always the part that takes the most amount of time for me. This video had some pretty good tips so thank you 🙌
hands are one of my best thing in my art
I always forget i have hands and use it not only to draw ... Really helpfull video it's always a pleasure to watch your work, thank you.
Thank you a lot for the video. Love your style and method. Hugs from Brazil~
Can you explain in future videos how colors work? I think for me at least it's not a problem to choose which one, but I can't get nice colors when I want to make a contrast in drawing between strong light and shadow. And I have a problem with choosing when colors have to be darker for aestetic of drawing
Thank you! This was very helpful. I really loved the specific example you gave at the end.
Tolles Video!!!! Hände sind ja immer so eine Sache, besonders wenn dann noch die Perspektive ins Spiel kommt. Danke dafür 🙏🏻👍🏻🤗🌸
The drawing looks incredible :o
I just draw it out of my head until I feel like it looks good. I am not a professional artist tho, so I will definitely use your advice
Found you on insta, and omg this is so educational! Thank you so much, now I have some place to begin :D
Your art style is beautiful
For someone like me who has aphantasia this is very helpful, thank you for this video!
I've been waiting for this! Waaa, Thank you so much, Laovaan for teaching us these things!!♥️♥️
I didn’t understand half of what you said when it came to layers and inverting, whatever you said to invert, but, I do love watching you draw and listening to your voice.
He has explained it a bunch of times in other videos. Check this one for more detailed steps: ruclips.net/video/F2hm544loqc/видео.html
I always looks at my hand, before trying to draw a hand. Saved this video, and will watch it later.
THANKYOU SO MUCHHHH! I love your videosss. They are so helpful!
i use a mix of both, looking at references then drawing construction
Буквально вчера вечером я рисовала новый рисунок и нужно было рисовать руки. В итоге я ПО ПРИВЫЧКЕ сделала несколько фотографий, где отбирала нужное мне положение рук. Просто прекрасно, что метод, который ты используешь для рисования окозывается пользуют в рисовании люди с 10-летнем стажем рисования! (Сама усиленно и вовлеченно рисую только 7-8 лет, иронично сказано 🤣)
Спасибо, что пополнили мой багаж знаний по рисованию рук, укрепив выроботанные самостоятельно навыки!
I've always used references for hands and poses. It's hard to come up with them while drawing and make it nice. Eventually you'll learn it and don't need it as often.
I find making a copy of a reference (keep one as the original) and drawing basic shapes on the other helps me draw faster and more accurate than drawing it just through observation. It's like a custom basic hand tutorial. I make traditional art, but there's basic phone apps that allow you to doodle some.
Oh I love your intro so much. Really creative!!
I love your videos, theyre so helpful and have really improved my drawings
This gives me so much confidence to keep drawing 😭💖🙏
Thank you so much for the tutorial! I've needed this for a long time. Love your art!
8:35 I'm just going to gloss over this part for myself, that other than observing references closely, what an artist wants out of their drawings/art is often unclear or not very decisive, sometimes we see how the sketch is more exciting than the finished artwork, from either artist or the audience's viewpoint, and maybe stylization isn't all that extreme, but actually subtle things that's less clear than calling a semi-realistic style. I think studying pictures, compositions, hand poses, gestures, that would work in certain cases, is often forgotten part of the study/observation
For people scrolling through the comments--It also may help you to look at the idea of 'grouping' fingers for certain hand poses, and their relationships
Just what I needed
For I draw over my reference and use it as a base while adding some of my personal touch.
I'm still searching for my way to draw hands ^^ but I noticed that references are soooo useful and helpful :3
Hello! Tysm! For teaching this how to draw hand and the angle! I'm so struggling to draw the hand.
That looks a lot easier once your use to the digital drawing.
AMÉ LA INTRO XDDD
Por cierto, gracias por el video :D Muy útil!
Thank you so much for your channel. Your videos are so helpful.
This tutorial is perfect! Do you mind making a video on shading? The way you shade is SO GOOD!!!
Here's a double tutorial on shading that he did ruclips.net/video/F2hm544loqc/видео.html
I use hand references thanks for the video
When I saw Eren on the thumbnail I knew I had to watch the vid
just saw your post on facebook istg its- G O D L Y
Wow!! Thank you so much dude! Hand is one style I'm struggling. Thank you so much! Worth it to sub to you
Looking amazing.. The details are so good!! And even though the process you showed is very nice!! Great job 🔥
god i love your hair so much😭 even years ago seeing you and until now I'm always curious how you maintain your hair color
ayo it's funny you were on my recommendations and I didn't see your videos before, but I was planning on doing the same approach of making tutorials by showing different emotions of me in anime style lol😂 btw you kinda sound like you're german as well
Thanks, I needed that ❤️
Hands... finally, a worthy opponent! Our battle will be -legendary- one sided!
Always so helpful, thank you!
(Interestingly enough, I got an "Am I gay" quiz ad on this video. Kind of ironic considering the..."subject matter" that this artist sometimes creates.)
Even the great Laovaan struggles with hands! I've been watching him and following him for a few years, and he's been a great inspiration. I would also love to see a tutorial on feet and backgrounds with perspective because I royally SUCK at those. I've had a bit of anxiety with references not because I thought it was cheating, but because I thought it won't turn out as good as the reference. But then I remember it's still going to be my own style, not the actual photo.
Thanks for making this video. The first method with the shapes I’m realistically not going to do, because it’s dry to me, but the reference method looks promising. I like the idea of modifying the reference photo with liquify, I’m going to try that.
Danke hast mir sehr geholfen normalerweise mache ich keine fotos von meiner hand sondern gucke sie mir nur an aber oft verkacke ich die Perspektive vielen dank ☺️
I 100% agree the the concept *work smart not hard*
whoaa animated!