Why One Can't Stay Too Long In Elbaf...

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  • Опубликовано: 2 дек 2024

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  • @42ndLife
    @42ndLife 22 часа назад +66

    Parking fees. Elbaph's parking fees are gigantic. That's why you shouldn't stay too long

    • @MKL3165
      @MKL3165 7 часов назад

      😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • @BaghNakh1
    @BaghNakh1 6 часов назад +2

    I think the reason you can't stay long is because of the name of the kingdom itself: Warland.
    There is a chance that its people tend to fight each other a lot because of their culture or other differences, so maybe the warning regarding staying too long is related to the fact that, if you overextend your stay, you might get yourself involved in some type of conflict/war between different regions around the island itself and remember that we're talking about wars where giants fight and probably die on those wars, so probably if you aren't a giant, chances of getting yourself killed a very high.
    Maybe Shanks got himself involved on the whole conflict regarding Loki for the same reason. I assume that there has to be some type of faction/group that might be loyal to Loki (that recognize him as the "Sun God") and they tend to go into conflict with the other group that Luffy has befriended (the ones that are loyal to Joyboy or the user of Luffy's fruit as the true "Sun God"). This is why probably Shanks told them about Luffy.

  • @NeroDMarch
    @NeroDMarch 19 часов назад +10

    Or Time Dilation to kinda be a "Time Skip" for training, so after the Strawhat Finished their Problem with Loki, they decided to stay to train for a Month.... But! when they leave it just One Day Pass in Real Time out of Elbaph!

  • @doronrosstuvia3489
    @doronrosstuvia3489 23 часа назад +7

    This chapter reminded me of a specific episode of Loony Tunes. When I looked it up, I couldn't find the episode, but it was one of my favorite Loony Tunes episodes as a kid. Eventually I realized it was a Tiny Tunes episode called “No Toon is an Island.” After watching it, I realized there are so many elements that are related to this series. From the ship looking like DuFeld’s ship to Imu, and even an almost identical sequence of Sabo throwing the fireball at Imu, Imu biting it, leading to Sabo and Cobra running away.
    ANYWAY, there is a concept in it where you go crazy on this island looking for treasure, becoming a “green eyed monster” or crazy with greed. I wonder if it is the same thing or something similar on Elbaf, where the longer you stay, the more greedy you become. Maybe Mother Caramel became more greedy the more she was there.

    • @NeonRoger
      @NeonRoger 21 час назад +1

      I couldn't place it, good call. Knew I had seen something like that.

    • @miquelmoorrees6010
      @miquelmoorrees6010 13 часов назад +1

      But only works on humans then presumably. I like this. Or at least not on giants.

    • @doronrosstuvia3489
      @doronrosstuvia3489 7 часов назад

      @@miquelmoorrees6010 It also relates to the story of Adam and Eve, where Eve picked the Apple.

  • @skiprank
    @skiprank 19 часов назад +2

    Time doesn't move slow but you'll lose the track of time because it's a Fabled land. We could use Pinocchio as reference, in the movie the kids became so obsessed with all the things they experience in Pleasure Island hence losing the track of time, got cursed and not able to leave.

  • @RyuuToon
    @RyuuToon 14 часов назад +1

    I think staying too long in Elbaph will reveal its ugly sides.
    Maybe the Giants and / or Shank aren't as cool as we thought, and there is something going on that is completely against Luffy's ideals.
    Remember that Oda loves real-world inspiration.
    And maybe some of us experienced this:
    You want to travel somewhere and you romanticize it but then you are there. The more you stay, the more you discover things you don't like. And slowly, your dream of this place starts to crumble.
    To at to that, there is this saying, "You should never meet your heroes."

  • @alexcenteno9613
    @alexcenteno9613 23 часа назад +8

    Part of me believes it might have something to do with the outside world. The World Government knows the Straw Hats are at Elbaph and with Vegapunk’s message about the world sinking, the Navy might want to take initiative on seeking high grounds. Elbaph is perfect for that. Wano has too many defenses where they can’t reach and Fishman Island is underwater so that’s won’t work with the Navy being mostly devil fruit users. I think Loki will start something that’ll somehow drag the Navy and other pirates like Crossguild or Blackbeard to Elbaph and that’ll be Ragnarok.

    • @NeonRoger
      @NeonRoger 21 час назад +2

      I want a battle Royale, the giant battle Oda announced last year at Jump Fest that will make "Marineford look cute by comparison".
      If he does want to accelerate to the end, shorten it with a battle Royale.(though I'm thinking Enel shows up soon)

    • @caiuscrooks5240
      @caiuscrooks5240 19 часов назад +2

      it was writen by a dude ages ago, i dont think he knows who luffy is. also oda said that he almost didnt even write the crew going to elbaph so im not sure

  • @ejelder
    @ejelder 23 часа назад +15

    23:10 actually… a 12 day fast has always struck me as insane. An old lady and a bunch of children fasting for 12 days is incredibly dangerous (even forgetting the Linlin Hunger Pangs issue…).
    Just googled it, and per a quick search a total fast of 3 days requires medical supervision and can be dangerous. So if your theory is right, they were swept up on giant time, by fasting dangerously long every year!
    *Edit: also nice video! I’m glad you thought about the Mother Carmel reference, since that does create an obstacle to lots of theories I’ve heard. I thought it was neat that a part of that flashback might actually align with the theory you’ve given!

    • @JoyGirlYT
      @JoyGirlYT  23 часа назад

      That's fascinating!

    • @NeonRoger
      @NeonRoger 23 часа назад

      "12 days of Christmas", in the One Piece world it's a fast during that same period around the winter solstice. Idk if 12 days means more than that, unless Luffy is getting 12 SH members?

    • @ejelder
      @ejelder 23 часа назад

      @@NeonRoger yeah it could be a reference to something else historical! It looks like the 12 days of Christmas fast was not a complete fast, just certain restrictions like during Lent, whereas I had the impression the Elbaph solstice fast was a total fast. But youre right that it could be Oda referencing that, or it could just be a coincidence, but it’s at least something that aligns with the theory!

    • @NeonRoger
      @NeonRoger 23 часа назад

      @@ejelder I never knew there was a fast with Christmas. I was just referring to the 12 days part, and to the winter solstice being why 12 was probably chosen. I fixed it for clarity, sorry too many weedies after work.💨
      Though that raises an interesting question, do we get to see a Jolly Gaint Saint Nicholas in red with a big white beard? Does Chopper unlock red armament haki for his nose too?🤣🤣🤣

    • @Johury
      @Johury 14 часов назад +2

      Since the fast in Elbaf starts with a Semelparty it's clearly inspired by the Swedish christian fast which is actually 40 days. But at least in modern times you're not supposed fully stop eating. Just eat in strict moderation and specifically avoid more indulging foods like sweets and alcohol.

  • @vick1873
    @vick1873 19 часов назад +4

    Elbaph operates on COVID time. Before you know it, 3 years have gone by...

  • @stevenkirkwood7039
    @stevenkirkwood7039 19 часов назад +1

    A somewhat different idea I thought of for why Arnot cautions adventurers specifically to not stay too long might relate to Log Poses (how long has it been since *those* have been relevant?)
    Perhaps just like staying on other islands for specific amounts of time to set the Pose to the next island, maybe Elbaph isn’t on the same line. Maybe once the Pose sets on Elbaph, it takes you off on a different direction entirely, or maybe even sends you backwards to a previous island-and given how some of the islands take ridiculous time spans to set the Pose (I forget which place, but I remember the crew being provided with or asked about purchasing one that was already set, since the time it normally takes was measured in years), and to an adventurer that brings them away from the path they want to take.
    That, or maybe Elbaph resets the Pose to the beginning- perhaps giving extra reasoning for why Eternal Poses were created to evade that effect, and even why the Eternal Pose for Laugh Tale was made (after spending all that time to get there, wouldn’t want to have to do it all over again each time you decide to go back or send someone else there)
    Just a random thought to add to the theorycrafting out there 👍

  • @bradasskg11
    @bradasskg11 6 часов назад

    This is genius!
    It could even explain why the giants are so big, everything on the island is so big, sooo much more. Very interesting that vegapunk’s future tech works here

  • @thewillofdreams6921
    @thewillofdreams6921 20 часов назад +1

    It could be like the Greek myth of the lotus eaters to shop Odysseus from adventuring n returning home, by the sea goddess calypso.
    Also the photon which effects time in the one piece world maybe works differently there, the norotum, introduced to use by foxy. His df can effect this photon but it exists without his fruit power.

  • @bluenited9524
    @bluenited9524 21 час назад +2

    Well, y'know it doesn't have to be a bad thing to live on Giant Time. We are approaching the end of the story. Maybe if time flow works slower on Elbaph, maybe the Strawhats at some point in the arc can train themselves up for the final fights without it feeling like too much time outside of Elbaph has passed. A few of them desperately need upgrades. (Looking at you Usopp).

  • @onbedoeldekut1515
    @onbedoeldekut1515 23 часа назад +5

    The 'time passes slower' idea doesn't hold weight for me.
    If that _were_ the case, a giant who normally lives for 300 years could live for multiples of that in 'the real world', so many of the Elbaphians would potentially be thousands of years old.
    I doubt Oda has been missing a beat there.

    • @NeonRoger
      @NeonRoger 21 час назад

      We will find out when we meet Jarul, he's the oldest and if say time goes;
      1 Day Elbaph = 3 Days the rest of the world
      Then Jarul would have been alive for the void century. Though this could be a weird fountain of youth type thing, it just pauses you where you are like the Gorosei? Carmel makes that difficult but she left the island often it seems, and sold a kid every 2 years or something so them staying young would be profitable.
      I'm with you, it would be a cool story device to speed up events away from the crew but I can't see it much more then 1:3 1:4 type ratio. And even then I'm leaning away more by the word.

    • @nerevarchthn6860
      @nerevarchthn6860 12 часов назад

      I must say either there different reasons why this wouldnt work, or even if there happens to be a plothole, its not the first time and definitely not a big problem for me because this setup for the finale would be such utter greatness that i wouldnt care if there is anything not homding weight

  • @ANunes06
    @ANunes06 10 часов назад

    17:00 - Dressrosa takes the cake here. Strawhats rock up, all hell *immediately* breaks loose. Every single one of Doffy's plans completely fail. There's a betrayal. A bunch of people POP BACK INTO EXISTENCE. TWICE! And then this lunatic rolls right up to your castle and punches you into hades with the BIGGEST fist you've ever seen in your life. While flying. Since when can he fly? Nobody told you he could fly.
    Total time:

  • @neaptide-z3b
    @neaptide-z3b 12 часов назад

    I suspect that the sun stones will play a specific role in reaching Laugh Tale, after the 4th road poneglyph has been found/interpreted by Robin

  • @drakimoto
    @drakimoto 22 часа назад

    Something that i find interesting is that if time works differently on elbaf, that may be a reason as to why mother caramel set up there to begin with. If let's say, one month on elbaf is one year in the outside world that would greatly increase the turn around on the kids she was raising for the government. And she was okay with leaving because big mom was going to be the last batch anyway.

  • @ANunes06
    @ANunes06 11 часов назад

    I can't shake the feeling that Oda put that tidbit in to justify what's going to be a shorter arc than we may want. After all, he wasn't planning on actually doing an Elpaf arc (the absolute MADLAD). He's said repeatedly that the characters and the world have more creative control over the story than he does at this point, so it might also be him giving himself in-world reasons to keep this one reined in. A shackle he wrote in just to keep things on track.
    I bet he'll come up with something nifty, if he hasn't already, but I don't think this was some big planned reveal about Elbaf so much as parent telling the kids at the roadside petting zoo that we have to check into the hotel by 8 PM and there's a 5 hour drive left.

  • @collecter343
    @collecter343 8 часов назад

    Another explanation of the line could be that wars break out often in Elbaf and if you’re not a Giant you will quite literally be trampled under foot.

  • @abdelaliboulkessab4210
    @abdelaliboulkessab4210 3 часа назад

    Luffy's technique against Katakuri and Cracker, in which Luffy doubles his arms to six arms in the fourth gear, is due to the power of imagination, but in a partial way and less effective than the fifth gear, because Luffy, with the power of imagination, can change the features of his body, for example, removing the scar on his eye and then returning it to its place in a comical way.

  • @akashshetty5112
    @akashshetty5112 19 часов назад

    Time is an interesting concept to explore in almost any work of fiction. I’m curious how Oda will be exploring this arc.

  • @brandondiotte2104
    @brandondiotte2104 2 часа назад

    What if Louis Arnot's warning was just a simple misunderstanding of something he saw happen? Like for instance lets say he witnessed what appeared to be a giant girl in a pink muumuu be struck with madness and kill one of the most venerated giant warriors on the island before being restrained by multiple giants and forced fed semla until sedated into a food coma. Then of course she and all the humans with her are kicked off the island, or as Louis might put it "they outstayed their welcome". Louis then decided to not push his own luck and leave the island before clarifying details with the giants in concern the same could happen to him.

  • @1PiezeF0rEv3r
    @1PiezeF0rEv3r 14 часов назад

    Theory: Big Mom's Semla Rampage happened in "Heaven World". Then Banished Sent to "Under World" since its Elbaf's Prison where both Loki meet-cute & Mother Caramel occurred.

  • @GolDGreg
    @GolDGreg 22 часа назад +1

    I think it may have to do with a lack of a road poneglyph on Elbaf

  • @sjustin878
    @sjustin878 19 часов назад

    It could just be a new “adventure/tourist visa” like rule set to protect giants from having to deal with threats or nuisances if humans were up to no good mother caramel was an exception she had a work visa

  • @johnjolie-boodram6846
    @johnjolie-boodram6846 6 часов назад

    You left out the possibility that Carmel’s soul soul fruit prevented the effects of elbaph… the danger affects the time of a soul.. maybe that’s why Roger and white beard had not much time left to live.??

  • @mathieuleader8601
    @mathieuleader8601 Час назад

    I think will we will learn what happened to Mother Carmel herself if we visit the heavenly realm and see her spirit or if Mama does arrive in Elbaph Mama's ghost will provide her a sense of closure

  • @anime_world6684
    @anime_world6684 10 часов назад

    The moment I heard don’t stay on elbaph to long I thought of the connections between big mom being forced to “fast” and how luffy would deal with that

  • @MatthewHarwood-McCausland
    @MatthewHarwood-McCausland 18 часов назад

    i have a feeling you wouldn't want to stay to long because you start to crave a fight all the time. this would explain why Luffy snapped so fast when Loki dissed Shanks

  • @zoebrennan799
    @zoebrennan799 11 часов назад

    Honestly, I hope he starts a new manga after this one you know maybe a little slower like once a month you know he can do it from home or something I just feel bad. He’s learn to write so well what a tragedy to see him go of course he deserves to retire. I’m hoping.

  • @onbedoeldekut1515
    @onbedoeldekut1515 23 часа назад +1

    Oda's 'making sure he stays on track'?
    The Straw Hats rarely stay more than a few days in ANY arc.
    They're generally two-day events spread over so any months for us that their scale is subconsciously inflated.

  • @NoLimitSquad
    @NoLimitSquad 5 часов назад

    Anyone familiar with the Golden Sun series on GBA? Lemuria vibes at all or is it just me?

  • @_casg
    @_casg 22 часа назад

    i hear people talking about that they can animated an entire arc inside some giants house. And still not even reach all the levels of Elbaf. That city isnt just gigantic, but the desginers gotta think about how the character will move around to adventure.

    • @NeonRoger
      @NeonRoger 21 час назад +1

      Seems like we might get 3-4 groups split up and all dealing with different issues.

  • @rusdyparinduri6925
    @rusdyparinduri6925 22 часа назад

    i am glad you still have high hope, for me this is now or never Elbaph is the oportunity for Oda to Answer at least half the question about anything that still mystery in OP I am getting tired I don't wnat anymore Question anymore Theories after Wano don't even reveal Pluton. Now or never Oda!

  • @onbedoeldekut1515
    @onbedoeldekut1515 День назад

    How high does the tree go if Elbaph is already mountainous, how much area does Elbaph cover, and what sort of shadow does it cast on the world as a whole because of its preposterous size (expecting it to be a similar size in comparison with other islands compared to the size of the inhabitants)?
    Giants are _BIG,_ and they don't seem like they're even remotely jostling for shoulder space.

  • @Mr.Muscaria
    @Mr.Muscaria 21 час назад +4

    As a norwegian who's grown up with one piece. I'm losing my mind brain. Oda brought Christmas early for Scandinavians lol

  • @ZenGaijin
    @ZenGaijin День назад +5

    I really feel like this is gonna be a long arc, there is a lot of things to go wrong already, and Luffy is definitely gonna crash out and it's gonna be madness. I do think somehow will Luffy destroy this place in a Ragnarok kinda vibe. That being said your idea of something happening to the people of Elbaf and we just didnt know it is a really good idea. I guess we'll see, I missed One Piece!

    • @NeonRoger
      @NeonRoger 23 часа назад

      We also have questions about Big Mom and Enel that need to be answered before Vivi shows up and Spandam kidnaps her and likely Robin like CP0 planned in Wano.

  • @chuchojuarez95
    @chuchojuarez95 23 часа назад +1

    20:59 all this talk about the fan translation vs official has me feeling like they are in universe two different translations of brag men and louis' words. Imagine actual historians struggling like joy girl wondering what louis' also meant

    • @NeonRoger
      @NeonRoger 21 час назад +1

      Ironically this was the conversation Ace and Deuce had on Sixes wasn't it, comparing stories from Brag Men while stranded and arguing over details?😂

  • @jimboslice1796
    @jimboslice1796 20 часов назад

    Louis Arnote: "Now remember oda, don't linger in this land too long" Lol

  • @mathieuleader8601
    @mathieuleader8601 13 часов назад

    Nice Dali reference in the thumbnail

  • @miquelmoorrees6010
    @miquelmoorrees6010 13 часов назад

    Tekking and joygirl on the same wavelength

  • @mathieuleader8601
    @mathieuleader8601 Час назад

    the heavenly realm will be called Nakrowa - dreamland and is the land that Cricket is hoping to find

  • @graphicsaw2657
    @graphicsaw2657 20 часов назад

    Curious if this could bring new meaning to 3D/2Y....⏳️

  • @Johury
    @Johury 14 часов назад

    The official translation, to me, implies that the threat somehow comes from things or people you first consider friendly.

  • @stephanhart9941
    @stephanhart9941 День назад +1

    Wouldn't it be louey Arno? It reads like a french name. Silent S in Louis, silent T in Arnot.

    • @damegulley
      @damegulley 23 часа назад

      It is. She’s Australian though. I dont think her accent permits for softer pronunciations 😂

    • @NeonRoger
      @NeonRoger 21 час назад

      Louie Arno? Unless the character is a Prince level of bad alias for Sanji here and we have to crack "Louis" because he "are not" is not Louis.

  • @jockergaming8570
    @jockergaming8570 21 час назад

    It may work like, height increase time slows down . may be reason IMU is still alive.

  • @EMULSIFY
    @EMULSIFY 23 часа назад

    Yes please tell me all these things

  • @the_jaysheel
    @the_jaysheel 6 часов назад

    Could there be a Giant present who is old enough to have being present in the Void Century coz of their greater lifespan or did the world government get rid of everything in the Void Century

  • @shivankk467
    @shivankk467 12 часов назад

    You should not stay long then there should be an issue with log pose, elbaf holds more gravity thus magnetic field wont work beyond that island bcz they are solely surrounded within elbaf, elbaf is a combination of almost three islands

  • @davidmuro9029
    @davidmuro9029 22 часа назад

    What if time seems to go by slower bcuz elbaf gets sun light for longer periods of time, like Alaska in our world. They can go days with sun light 24/7. So maybe they forget what time it is bcuz they loose track of time. Giants don't notice bcuz of their long life cycle

  • @thegreatimu
    @thegreatimu 18 часов назад

    maybe they meant "don't stay too long at this Island, otherwise Shanks will reach Laugh Tale first..." lol

  • @chriscortez4729
    @chriscortez4729 8 часов назад

    What if after they get off of the island, the world is already knee-deep in the midst of the war because of how much time went by?😮

  • @Majorkill675
    @Majorkill675 7 часов назад

    Watch this be the reason oda will only make elbaf 30 chapters long

  • @datguy6745
    @datguy6745 16 часов назад

    One cant stay too long on Elbaf...
    But Tucan.

  • @3rdiGuy
    @3rdiGuy 22 часа назад

    I NEED ONE MORE TIME SKIP THE PASSGE OF TIME THING HAS ME SOLD!!!!

  • @nunnayorz5836
    @nunnayorz5836 20 часов назад

    Zoro would probably drink for 3 days straight

  • @MegaLeoDOM
    @MegaLeoDOM 21 час назад

    so is all OP youtubers saying the same theory?

  • @GSMnocap-memesdaily-
    @GSMnocap-memesdaily- 3 часа назад

    I think I'm in love

  • @ulstuguldur8322
    @ulstuguldur8322 18 часов назад

    Maybe they age faster in Elbaf

  • @NeroDMarch
    @NeroDMarch 14 часов назад

    Time Dilation please happen! so after 3-4 Days Strawhat Pirates leave Elbaph, Impel Down Prison Break 2.0 Already Happen! Garp already "D Word"! Kurohige Destroyed Fishman Island & Kdnapped Poseidon Shirahoshi
    Because in Real Time out of Elbaph it's 3-4 Months!!

  • @righteousness7711
    @righteousness7711 16 часов назад

    Was that a Kamala Harris dig lol

  • @Dont-DoDat
    @Dont-DoDat 20 часов назад

    Thank u for talking one piece to me for 24 min

  • @gurmeet0108
    @gurmeet0108 23 часа назад +2

    Hey that's my idea... ❤❤😁😁
    I introduced the idea in last joystream.
    (I'm doing PhD in physics and even currently working on a paper about time, and I would love to help out with time physics understanding, If you like)

    • @JoyGirlYT
      @JoyGirlYT  23 часа назад +1

      I'll definitely let you know of any questions!!

  • @SMRR17
    @SMRR17 3 часа назад

    Why One Cant Subscribe To MaybeGirl...
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  • @silvachifla
    @silvachifla 3 часа назад

    I love asian woman

  • @errepeoficial
    @errepeoficial 23 часа назад

    Commenting on every Joygirl’s video until she reaches 100k subs
    part#-46 🤓🫡

  • @NeroDMarch
    @NeroDMarch 14 часов назад

    Time Dilation please happen! so after 3-4 Days Strawhat Pirates leave Elbaph, Impel Down Prison Break 2.0 Already Happen! Garp already "D Word"! Kurohige Destroyed Fishman Island & Kdnapped Poseidon Shirahoshi
    Because in Real Time out of Elbaph it's 3-4 Months!!