Had no idea this guy was undrafted. Having a crazy season already has 1000 yards im not a vikings fan but i find myself watching vikings games and watching for those bright yellow gloves. Great breakdown per usual keep up the good work
Fisher was worse than a bad coach. He was a MEDIOCRE coach. The difference is bad coaches stay around 2 years tops; mediocre coaches stay around much longer, like Jeff Fisher or Marvin Lewis
Awesome video! Love the longer, more in-depth format. I'd LOVE if you took a look at Green Bay's receivers to explain how Adams has continued to produce with Hundley at QB while Jordy and Cobb have severely struggled.
I personally believe you underestimate Stefon Diggs. However, this is just my eye-test which is nothing compared to your type of usually well drafted analysis. Maybe you could do a breakdown about him? Keep up the good work Samuel Gold and have a good one!
100% agree, think pushing Digg primarily to the outside hurt his production. Where Theilen gets the benefit of the doubt of moving around the field a lot more and not being locked into the outside.
AttackoftheLumbie Yes but he is good at contested catches, rac and usually has bigger plays. I think Thielen is a good possession guy, especially when it comes to moving the chains on 3rd down
TheEurymonae I agree. Diggs is our dangerous deep threat and more dangerous on short routes in space and Thielen is great at possession receiving and using his frame, route running, and hands to make plays. Diggs on the other hand has good routes, hands, and is more elusive and fast and he’s the guy we look for deep down the field. Diggs = Cooks and Thielen = Hopkins
AttackoftheLumbie They both have pretty awesome hands and make some great catches. I’ll point out the one major negative on Thielen. If I’m correct he leads our team in fumbles with 3 which isn’t good for him being our best offensive weapon and given his size and strength
Anas Ahmed what about dekker, edelman, beasley, harrison smith, weddle, hogan, and of course we already know riley cooper can say it......he already said it 😐😐😐😐😐
here's the analysis: Jeff Fischer is no longer his coach, way better offensive scheme, better talent around him etc. That man was a dumpster fire of a coach.
Love your breakdown's Samuel. I really wish you'd pick 1 college game to do, I admittedly watch it a little closer than the NFL. But no one does breakdowns of college football like you do with players/schemes in the NFL.
I know I'm late in commenting on this but I think videos on Goff's progress between last year and know and Case Keenum's surprise year might be cool ideas. I really enjoyed your level of detail.
SRVstiger oh yea man I know. I actually drafted both Thielan and Diggs (76th) not even thinking about how they were on the same team. I was trying to trade away Thielan in the beginning of the year because of it but luckily I couldn’t get a deal haha
I appreciate your analysis. It's hard to dig into players on youtube, mostly you see highlights which tells you next to nothing. Would be cool if you could take a look and Keenum and any other upcoming free agent QBs. You hinted at things I believe about Keenum in this video, would be interesting to see a good breakdown.
I am so glad he brought up the fact about josh norman. Josh Norman hardly gives up any big plays but all anybody says is Norman is overrated. Non football people should never ever comment on football
i would love to see a video on either the broncos or the raiders on why they struggle so much this year. last years best Cornerback Tandem in the League and one of the best pass rushes there is and now they get blown ? and what about derek carr and amari cooper ? why arent they at the top of the league offensivewise ?
as a broncos fan, I must say that you should drop DT for E. Sanders on your list. sanders is more consistent, even with how terrible our qb's have been for the past few seasons.
@@Bucko99 But ppl still complain about the Packers WR core and its lack of deep speed I say that if this guy had not been put on waivers everything would be fine ruclips.net/video/LwiBW6j80kI/видео.html
@@Bucko99 Again I think the Packers made a huge mistake letting the person JEFF JANIS in that video I sent you go he could have been the perfect compliment for Adams.Janis was a 4.30 speed merchant
about Cooper tho, i have not seen any recent production, his hands cannot keep on to the ball, he struggles under pressure in clutch moments, he might be a top10 talent, but i dont see a top 15 wideout in him right now or in the near future
was that play against the buccaneers, where thielen secured the catch nearly a pass interference? the bucs CB was pushing him away from the ball a little. not sure, just asking.
I took ziek in the second round this year and thielen in the 9th should I give up an 8th round pick and keep thielen or give up my first round pick and keep ziek...12 man league and you have to put your keeper in before you know draft order...help?
For how often he has to adjust to poor throws by keenum its not surprising that he doesn't break many tackles. He is often off balance by the time he gets the ball or has to run back toward the defender to haul it in.
Swap Jordy Nelson with Larry Fitzgerald in your list and I agree with you mostly. In fact Larry got voted to the Pro Bowl so he still has a lot of fans *as did Thielen*. Hopkins also deserves a lot of credit considering QB situation in Houston.
you guys are dumb af of course he is still good the cowboys have been riddled with enjuries and without Zeke Dak needs to throw more but Jason Garrett is such a fucking woos he is too scared and conservative. They needa open up the offense and get Brice Butler more snaps
Sam Sayabalian He wasn't a great talent in college so I was shocked after his rookie year. He's come back to earth now. No more O line to baby him and teams now have film on him. Poor man's Donovan McNabb.
Andrew Chen Wasn't a very gifted passer and was very inconsistent with his accuracy. Tim Tebow put up great stats in the SEC. Dak's replacement Nick Fitzgerald has put up stats too. Talent wise I wasn't impressed, I saw him multiple times in college and thought he was a right handed Tim Tebow with better passing skills of course. Better passing skills than Tebow ain't saying much tho.
I think Keenan Allen is rated low but I can’t blame you cuz the mans been always battling injuries... He is huge for the chargers offense when he’s on the field
I like the top ten just switch Hopkins and Evans and it's perfect Hopkins has the physicality advantage even though he's smaller and he doesn't get into trouble with the refs
why do u have Jordy Nelson as a top 10 receiver when he hasnt had a single 100 yard game this season , the dude has been averaging 33 yards a game and on top of that he couldnt even get more than 50 yards against the Browns and Cowboys who both have awful passing defences . I doubt hes gonna get better when he's playing at 33 next year
Love Thielen. Balled out on my fantasy squad too. Nice seein a white boy out here wreckin dudes. But is him beatin a linebacker really scout tape material lol? Just found it a little funny. Dope tape tho. Love watching em.
Marc Bear He hasn't broken 1000 yards in years. He hasn't played a full season in years. He hasn't broken 100 yards in a game since week 1 of LAST season.
Had no idea this guy was undrafted. Having a crazy season already has 1000 yards im not a vikings fan but i find myself watching vikings games and watching for those bright yellow gloves. Great breakdown per usual keep up the good work
Beans Theorem no he really hasn't been that bad minus his one bad game against the redskins
Went to college with thielen, he was awesome to watch in college too.
How bad was Jeff Fischer that Keenum goes to another team and he plays well and Goff looks like a different QB lol
Terry Rendon Fischers always been known to hold his QBs back.
Fischer is the ultimate 8-8 specialist.
Don't forget Jeff Fischer had Nick Foles who won a Super Bowl with the Eagles. Every QB gets better when they get away from Fischer.
Nick foles too
Fisher was worse than a bad coach. He was a MEDIOCRE coach. The difference is bad coaches stay around 2 years tops; mediocre coaches stay around much longer, like Jeff Fisher or Marvin Lewis
Awesome video! Love the longer, more in-depth format.
I'd LOVE if you took a look at Green Bay's receivers to explain how Adams has continued to produce with Hundley at QB while Jordy and Cobb have severely struggled.
I personally believe you underestimate Stefon Diggs. However, this is just my eye-test which is nothing compared to your type of usually well drafted analysis. Maybe you could do a breakdown about him? Keep up the good work Samuel Gold and have a good one!
100% agree, think pushing Digg primarily to the outside hurt his production. Where Theilen gets the benefit of the doubt of moving around the field a lot more and not being locked into the outside.
I think diggs is too injury prone to be ranked any higher. he also doesn't have the amazing hands theilen does
AttackoftheLumbie Yes but he is good at contested catches, rac and usually has bigger plays. I think Thielen is a good possession guy, especially when it comes to moving the chains on 3rd down
TheEurymonae I agree. Diggs is our dangerous deep threat and more dangerous on short routes in space and Thielen is great at possession receiving and using his frame, route running, and hands to make plays. Diggs on the other hand has good routes, hands, and is more elusive and fast and he’s the guy we look for deep down the field. Diggs = Cooks and Thielen = Hopkins
AttackoftheLumbie They both have pretty awesome hands and make some great catches. I’ll point out the one major negative on Thielen. If I’m correct he leads our team in fumbles with 3 which isn’t good for him being our best offensive weapon and given his size and strength
Adam Thielen can say nigga
Anas Ahmed what about dekker, edelman, beasley, harrison smith, weddle, hogan, and of course we already know riley cooper can say it......he already said it 😐😐😐😐😐
Y'all some wierdos
No black people pussy hurt too much
This was an awesome in depth video. Keep up the good work. I like how you broke down the routes and how he did versus certain coverages
Great video, as always. I always enjoy watching.
How can you have Keenan Allen at #20? Especially after yesterday's performance.
jeffrey morton Injury history scares me. He's an extremely talented player but I want consistent production.
He's the Tony Romo of WRs
You should do one on Case Keemun and why he is doing so well this year
Part of the reason Keenum is playing so well is Thielen. The have that oft mentioned, but ill-defined, chemistry.
here's the analysis: Jeff Fischer is no longer his coach, way better offensive scheme, better talent around him etc. That man was a dumpster fire of a coach.
You should make a video on Jarvis Landry, who is also incredibly underrated in my opinion
He’s my favorite
U make sense and I love ur breakdowns
Cover Keenan Allen!
Nobody can cover Keenan Allen ;)
MHNK77 Hahahaha good one
Adam Thielen is an Star on the making. He will shine very bright into the end.
Love your breakdown's Samuel. I really wish you'd pick 1 college game to do, I admittedly watch it a little closer than the NFL. But no one does breakdowns of college football like you do with players/schemes in the NFL.
Great video. I enjoy these longer film breakdowns.
I know I'm late in commenting on this but I think videos on Goff's progress between last year and know and Case Keenum's surprise year might be cool ideas. I really enjoyed your level of detail.
Been waiting for a video on Thielen! Keep the great work up, love your videos all the way from London
Very well done, excellent review. Keep them coming.
Drafted Thielen 125th in my fantasy league. He’s been a huge help especially since I drafted Demarco Murray 16th and he’s having a very mediocre year
Jacob Hamel lol I drafted Alvin Kamara around that number
SRVstiger oh yea man I know. I actually drafted both Thielan and Diggs (76th) not even thinking about how they were on the same team. I was trying to trade away Thielan in the beginning of the year because of it but luckily I couldn’t get a deal haha
he gets like 100 yards a game and has 5 TDs what kinda league are you playing in Lmfao
These are very helpful. Thanks
How about Keenan Allen
I appreciate your analysis. It's hard to dig into players on youtube, mostly you see highlights which tells you next to nothing. Would be cool if you could take a look and Keenum and any other upcoming free agent QBs. You hinted at things I believe about Keenum in this video, would be interesting to see a good breakdown.
You should do a video on Amari Cooper’s struggles this season! As a Raiders fan I am interested to know!
Great video keep up the good work !🙌👍
I am so glad he brought up the fact about josh norman. Josh Norman hardly gives up any big plays but all anybody says is Norman is overrated. Non football people should never ever comment on football
i would love to see a video on either the broncos or the raiders on why they struggle so much this year. last years best Cornerback Tandem in the League and one of the best pass rushes there is and now they get blown ? and what about derek carr and amari cooper ? why arent they at the top of the league offensivewise ?
MrS0UL34TER amari cooper hasn't been great he's just takes over some games but his inconsistency is his downfall
Where did you get your YAC info'? He's currently 9th best in the entire league with 308 YAC. What more do you want?
You should do a video on why Davante Adams is showing he’s currently Packers #1WR and has shown huge upside and improvement
as a broncos fan, I must say that you should drop DT for E. Sanders on your list. sanders is more consistent, even with how terrible our qb's have been for the past few seasons.
packers fan here - Jordy Nelson is not who he used to be. Devante Adams is our number 1 guy now.
and why on earth would you say that? because he isnt producing without rodgers?
Agreed. Last season they were pretty much equal in stats, but this year Adams has definitely outshined Nelson.
@@Bucko99 But ppl still complain about the Packers WR core and its lack of deep speed I say that if this guy had not been put on waivers everything would be fine ruclips.net/video/LwiBW6j80kI/видео.html
Dwight Love ?
@@Bucko99 Again I think the Packers made a huge mistake letting the person JEFF JANIS in that video I sent you go he could have been the perfect compliment for Adams.Janis was a 4.30 speed merchant
great analysis
great video bro👍👍👍
Im taking Keenan Allen over Dez and Thielen..Thielen do got a smooth game tho
Do got? *has
Mark M *HAVE
Keenan Allen tore my team up this year. I'm a cowboys fan and I was just like damn someone needs to stop this dude!
Dez barley makes the top 30 when TE are added. Tyreek Hill has more catches and yards on fewer target than Dez, is not on the list.
Please don’t compare washed up Dez to Thielen.
I love my #19. Nobody has the heart and desire to win at every play. SKOL Vikings!
Minnesota!! with a great receiving duo
Odell is going to be a monster in this offense
finally the love he deserves
Thielen is the man
Can you do keenan Allen??
correct me if i am wrong. diggs runs a 4.5 40 and thielen runs a 4.45. what a combo. they must give corners sleepless nights
about Cooper tho, i have not seen any recent production, his hands cannot keep on to the ball, he struggles under pressure in clutch moments, he might be a top10 talent, but i dont see a top 15 wideout in him right now or in the near future
Well this didn't age well😂
was that play against the buccaneers, where thielen secured the catch nearly a pass interference? the bucs CB was pushing him away from the ball a little. not sure, just asking.
It was pass interference, flag was thrown.
good top 20 list
I wish I could live in Minnesota.
Where is Davante Adams?
Is he not good enough to get in the top 20?
Out of all the comments I've received I think Davante Adams is the only guy I need to research more tbh.
Samuel Gold As a loyal packers fan hes better than Jordy just didnt have the chemistry with Rodgers that Jordy did
Samuel Gold would love to see one on adams, he's under rated imo
Samuel Gold yea he's solid
Well he is but he plays for the fudge Packing Pukers.......
9:06 Ok this list is actually very solid. But me, being biased, feel that number 20 is much better and should be in the top 10.
Insightful.
I’m looking for Funchess to break your top 20 soon
I took ziek in the second round this year and thielen in the 9th should I give up an 8th round pick and keep thielen or give up my first round pick and keep ziek...12 man league and you have to put your keeper in before you know draft order...help?
Break down Doug Baldwin
You the best think you👍🏼
For how often he has to adjust to poor throws by keenum its not surprising that he doesn't break many tackles. He is often off balance by the time he gets the ball or has to run back toward the defender to haul it in.
I play DB. I will like to learn the coverages and the plays from you
Could you do a video on Robby Anderson.
You should make a vid on Keenan Allen
MVP!
Keenan Allen please
Thielen average on press coverage? Check out the crucial 3rd down catch against Atlanta. Jaw dropping move.
Please do a video on what's happening on the chiefs and why they are failing now
Dez Bryant should be switched with K. Allen. haha update! Nice video man
You're right, he's not like Antonio Brown. He's Cris Carter Jr. Great route runners, deceptive speed (Thielen ran 4.45 at his pro day), and mitts!
Please watch tape on Davante Adams! I can´t believe he is not in your top 20. I promise
you he will be after you have watched tape on him
Swap Jordy Nelson with Larry Fitzgerald in your list and I agree with you mostly. In fact Larry got voted to the Pro Bowl so he still has a lot of fans *as did Thielen*. Hopkins also deserves a lot of credit considering QB situation in Houston.
Where do you have Alshon Jeffery ranked?
Is Dak even good anymore
BoLT xLegendZ no
you guys are dumb af of course he is still good the cowboys have been riddled with enjuries and without Zeke Dak needs to throw more but Jason Garrett is such a fucking woos he is too scared and conservative. They needa open up the offense and get Brice Butler more snaps
Sam Sayabalian He wasn't a great talent in college so I was shocked after his rookie year. He's come back to earth now. No more O line to baby him and teams now have film on him. Poor man's Donovan McNabb.
Really? I thought he was pretty good in college, considering he played in the SEC and had little help around him. His stats were pretty damn good too.
Andrew Chen Wasn't a very gifted passer and was very inconsistent with his accuracy. Tim Tebow put up great stats in the SEC. Dak's replacement Nick Fitzgerald has put up stats too. Talent wise I wasn't impressed, I saw him multiple times in college and thought he was a right handed Tim Tebow with better passing skills of course. Better passing skills than Tebow ain't saying much tho.
Can u make a video for Terrance Newman
It would be nice to see you do film on college football
I do it during NFL draft season. Hard to get All-22 of college games.
Thielen is my favorite human.
I think Keenan Allen is rated low but I can’t blame you cuz the mans been always battling injuries... He is huge for the chargers offense when he’s on the field
Who is better digs or thielen
The dude did drop 2 passes that was in the end zone against the panters
Panthers
Odell dropped two touchdown passes vs the packers in the wild card. So what are you trying to say?
no he did get cut then resigned to the practice sqaud
True, he spent the 2013 season on the practice squad before making the 53 in '14.
I'd put stefon diggs and keenan allen a bit higher
I like the top ten just switch Hopkins and Evans and it's perfect Hopkins has the physicality advantage even though he's smaller and he doesn't get into trouble with the refs
Keenan at #20?
Speaking of good route runners, Davante Adams!!
Adam thielen is like Doug Baldwin undrafted both really good route runners and both came out of nowhere and are terrific wideouts now. Amazing right
Got him on my madden mobile team he's my secret weapon
Do Joey Bosa
Lol Hopkins at 7?? C'mon man can you do a video on him?
Where would you put Julian Edelman when he’s healthy?
Joseph Parker Top 30. He's old (unfortunately). Fantastic player when he was younger but I think there is now talent out there with more longevity.
Samuel Gold thanks for replying, I’d put him a little higher but I’m bias
Why isnt golden tate on your list?
This could be Alex Erickson if the Bengals gave him more snaps.
The next Great White Hope!
that was last year. thielen is the best at creating separation
why do u have Jordy Nelson as a top 10 receiver when he hasnt had a single 100 yard game this season , the dude has been averaging 33 yards a game and on top of that he couldnt even get more than 50 yards against the Browns and Cowboys who both have awful passing defences . I doubt hes gonna get better when he's playing at 33 next year
He is next of Steve Largent
Keenan Allen at 20? Mannnnnnnnn
He bodied #24 from the rams sheesh
4% drop rate >> 4% broken tackle after catch rate.
1:17 fool got burned so bad 😅
Bruh, Keenan Allen at 20? He's a great rout runner, better off the press, and better with the ball in his hands. He's a faster version of Larry Fitz.
Love Thielen. Balled out on my fantasy squad too. Nice seein a white boy out here wreckin dudes. But is him beatin a linebacker really scout tape material lol? Just found it a little funny. Dope tape tho. Love watching em.
Diggs and thelin are the best receivers ever
Robby Anderson is top 20
He should get a 92 OV card in MUT
I believe that #8 goes to davante adams
Why are you sleeping on Alshon Jeffery?
Marc Bear ikr
Marc Bear He hasn't broken 1000 yards in years. He hasn't played a full season in years. He hasn't broken 100 yards in a game since week 1 of LAST season.
Check my Adam thielen mix out 👀🔥
Keenan Allen