Bowl Like a Pro! Bowling's Best Kept Secret. A Simple Tip to Improve Your Game.
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• Mike Shady is a silver level certified bowling coach and a coach for Team USA bowling.
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I took an in person lesson from Mike about 10-15 years ago at age 60 after being out of bowling for 20+ years. My avg. went from 150s to 170s almost immediately. I'm now in my mid 70s bowling once a week with avg in 180s.
you have double my avg and im 20!
@@pokiis3108 you will get it figured out. Learn to make your spares and the strikes will come.
@@pokiis3108 I'm 33 and average 210
So just keep practicing you will get there
@@nascarandbowlingfan3888 bowled a 243 with one no tap strike a 8/ in the eighth frame and a (- 9) on the tenth for 243… sad times 😂 second and third game was horrid. 133 and 118
@@pokiis3108 243 nice is that ur high game
Spent a good portion of my summer of practice last year working on this very aspect! You're right, Coach Shady, it's hard. What makes that funny is that it really is the easiest thing to do! Gravity will take care of getting the ball started. That, and a couple other things I was working on, brought my average up 10 pins this year. Not bad for being away from the game for 20 years!
Thanks!
Awesome improvement Mark. Glad you're back bowling!
I learned a lot from th best secret. Time to go bowling. I wish I knew more of the science of bowling in high school when I bowled.
Great tip! Basically, you’re saying “let gravity take care of the arm swing” and don’t muscle it.
That's how I'm understanding it.
But that's not easy for me to do because everytime I try to let the ball swing without grabbing the ball at the top. It falls off my hand and I have bad issue with squeezing the ball and I have a hard time creating any kind of ball speed and getting pin action. I got the revs in all and the ball fits my hand just fine. But speed though I need help with that can any of you guys give me a few tips on that?
@@travoncordova7798 Sounds like a grip issue. Have your pro shop fitter check your span and pitches and make some adjustments so you can relax the fingers and thumb.
@@travoncordova7798 it's possible that your thumb is drilled with too much reverse pitch. A lot of pro shops still favor using reverse thumb pitch since it gets the thumb out quicker (better for beginners). Unfortunately, once you learn to lighten your grip and your swing, you'll lose the ball in your back swing unless you use a lot of tape.
You might go to your Pro shop and see what your current thumb pitch is. If you have an extra bowling ball you don't use much, you could have them fill the thumb and re-drill 1/8" more positive.
Eral Antony would muscle it.
I tried this last night on the lanes and I felt my swing became smother. And not a strain on my elbow. Thank Coach Shady
Just had a session with Mike two weeks ago and we worked on this part of my game, it made a huge difference for me in my swing!
Let me share a TOP TIP in here for all of you: PRACTICE 1 thing at the time and repeat over 1,000 times. For example, if you want to improve your release, practice just that, 1,000 times. Don't think about anything else. Just focus on 1 thing until it becomes ingrained in your subconscious and your body learns the movement.
I fear not the man who practiced 1,000 kicks one time, but the man who practiced 1 kick 1,000 times- Bruce Lee
@@jordangarza8911 actually it was 10,000 but still perfect annology
I'm 72 years old and have over 20 years of BAD habits. I've been lucky enough to maintain a 160+ avg. NOT GOOD ENOUGH. Never too old to learn new things. 'nuff said
That's talking to the cerebellum.
What would you suggest for people on more time constraints? I could maybe get five full games of bowling in a week
Thank you so much great tip. I can not wait for my next bowl game
I have changed from 5steps to 4 with the 24 rule’ it has helped me out so much, moved from a 165 to a 180 in the first 3 weeks of men’s league this year. Thank Coach Shady, do you think that 1 day you can talk about the V with the finger that you spread out on your ball and carry that before you snap your hand on release?
I taught years ago, pendulum swing. This is the first I have heard of it in years! Great tip
4:44
Thank You Mike Shady for all your bowling insight and tips!
Thanks for watching and for the nice comment, we appreciate it!!
I’ve always find myself chasing my swing sort of speak... Great tip and content here, Thanks Coach Shady and Mike! #insidebowling
Thank you for the kind words Romeo.
Hey, I definitely remember Mike Shady. We bowled a PBA Midwest Regional at Hawthorne Lanes in Quincy Illinois. I started out with 636. Mike had 836. I've always had a hitch in that part of my swing, and it showed. I could never get rid of it. Thanks for the tip. If I didn't live on Maui, where there's NO bowling center, I'll practice that tip. Good stuff!
Jim Pickering I have mad respect for Mike Shady, he knows my coach Palmer Fallgren but I didn’t like that person making a funny comment for the rest of us whom take this stuff seriously. His comment is right under mine being the first.
He has the highest average at the national tournament
Outstanding Difference!
I always let the ball carry my back swing an feet slow an consistent an my avg.went up with the storm Hyroad from 172 to 195
Thank you Coach Shady. I’m 78 and been bowling 22 years. Your descriptions were dead on my style of bowling. I watched this video 8 times and then went to the lanes committed to practice this correctly. OMG, what a difference. I’ve never rolled the ball so effortless and I kept it up. First game was 121 and the last game was a clean 233. Will practice this for the next two days to ensure i have it down. I felt like a bowler for the first time in many years. Steve S.
I'm definitely going bowling with my nephew in the morning I need to try that technic
Man I'm so nervous, starting my Bowling endeavor tomorrow..I gotta do it, I'm starting from scratch...let's Bowl!
Just started practicing this in basement , very different feel. Can’t wait till reopen and try full approach
Love the content, you are a beast
Thanks Mike
I have kind of went to a 2 handed approach more like jespers in the past few years where he has his arm already down and takes the push away out of it but maybe i should try to go back to the push away more like belmo again and see how it feels any opinions on jespers approach
Great information
totally a new bowling tip to learn.
Thanks
I have a question . I have a new 15 lbs storm tropical surge. Im standing with my left foot behind the far left dot. Im right handed and I target between the secend and third arrows from my right. I had to move to two steps from the fowl line to slow the ball down and swing slower becouse I'm over powering the ball. ( I want more power ) so should I try to put more rotation on the ball so I can go back to being four steps away from the line. or put more traction on the ball by sanding it with a lower grit truecut . so I can put more of my stranth into it
In relation the a free flowing swing, our foot speed needs to slowly accelerate as well. Basically try to emulate chris barnes' game and you will be a good bowler for a long time.
I need to get the fear of dropping the ball on the back swing out of my head. My biggest problem is a tight grip with the thumb on the back swing and not relaxing my grip swinging forward. In turn I end up with sore middle/ring finger joints and a puffy thumb after a series.
I haven't bowled for 9 years but I had a high swing and bowled right handed re verse hook ( backup ) and use to stand at the back of the lane and run up the approach for 25 years.
You obviously never had a coach or friends who bowled seriously and tried to help you with your game. Many guys start out with unorthodox and bad forms (such as running from the back of the approach) but most guys, once they bowl more leagues and then tournaments, pick up advice along the way and begin bowling more seriously. Running is awful because although you generate a lot of ball speed, it is almost impossible to repeat shots and execute. Watch the PBA pros. Although the throw their balls at around 19 mph, faster than us amateurs, pretty much ALL of them creep up to the line in terms of their foot speed. They take slow, steady steps and their heads are dead level during the entire approach. Take a look and then see if you can make yourself slow down. It will help a lot. Also, you can't generate much rev rate throwing a back up ball, unless you are Anthony Simonson who is a very unique 2-hander.
I bowl in a junior elite team I went from Avrg 167 to 182 thanks again thanks 🙏🏾
With that average you should just focus on picking up spares and getting consistent strike ball hits so you leave less splits. Then you'll be a 200+ in very little time. Remember a game of all spares is around 200. Throw a few strikes in as well and you get 220+
I was always told I'd never be a good bowler only using two fingers. Now days I see a lot more of such bowlers. I bowled a 276 Sunday (with a house ball) with a friend. Now no way I can do that consistently but I can roll 210-230 consistently and I'd say that's pretty good.
My Son and I also bowl two fingers and we have a 180 avg, we both can bowl in the 200's and we're both consistent weekly.
Great tip. Sometime I use it sometime I make the mistakes you mention. I still remember Mike and teammates on the log flume ride at Six Flags-Great America trying to get me as soaked as possible. Great times back then in 1985!
Of course with my failing memory, i don't remember whether Mike was a co-conspirator or just his Lacrosse teammates.
I like this.
how would this work for a wheelchair bowler? I'm sure it is something simple but I really need help on arm swing at times
Please help us see the difference in the 3. I agree with several of the remarks as they all look the same. would you please slow it down and show us the difference. I have terrible timing issues as I am not consistent on the approach. Thanks for your videos ...
100% agree I literally could not see a single difference in the video
I just signed up for a bowling league and I wanted to learn how to bowl better
you know, I can't see a difference.
they literally all look identical. horrible video.
I looked carefully too. All three swings look exactly the same. They SAY he's doing different things, but I can't see it. Bad video. I also didn't get the '24 inches" thing either.
I truly felt the same way. I watched in slow mo and I felt dumb.
Difference...
On the 2nd "bad shot" Brock threw straight and flat at the 10 pin... In the magic shot he put a little wrist in it and got it to the 1-3 pocket..
Basically what they teach as 24 inches of magic, I teach by telling my students to keep the ball in front of your shoulder, not your chest. That way you can drive through the ball on your follow through.
Andrew, joe, rob...hi! Broc here. Hey thanks for watching the video first off!! 😀
These 24 inches have helped me and many others compete at some of the highest levels all over the country with some of the most talented athletes in this sport.
I set different hand positions to achieve different results on the lane. In this video I used the same hand position for all 3 clips.
The shot where I was really constricted...all muscled up. It resulted in slower ball speed and a slight tug left because I was squeezing. Yeah, my hand got around it. When you add all those things up, especially squeezing, that will happen. Muscle-ing it like that will not allow you to be free and loose. And thats why the ball actually hooked like it did.
The shot where it looked like i flat handed it, where I threw it faster, and the ball hit the 10 pin? I had the same hand position and tried to hit the same target. I was going so fast I missed right, had no idea where it was going, and because I was out of line in the 24 inch zone, my tilt, rotation, and rev rate were not right. I had no leverage, and no timing to get where I needed to be. Resulting in bad ball motion.
It is a feel thing mostly. If you watch closely at my setup, I actually setup the same way in all 3 different shots. I never moved a board and tried to hit the same target in all 3 shots.
The three different results you guys see is really what can happen if you get the 24 inches wrong!!!! Once you see it from this perspective i hope it helps you guys out some. Best wishes.
-Broc
What helped me out was Mark Baker's Game Changer and The System.
Bowling Circus i have been wondering that myself.
The vid is not perfectly clear on the point, but seems to be close enough to “get it”. Are we saying to push the ball out front 24” prior to, or in concert with, the first step? And that this will make gravity take over?
I bowled with grandkids first time in forty years. Scared them to death. Ball bounced a couple times and went straight down the middle. Made two strikes. But they thought I was going to fall a few times. A lot of drama in my swing now 🤷♀️
3:10 Might I just say....DAMN BROCK!!! 😍
THICC
How about superimposing the three motions with the others.
Come back PWBA , you get beauty and great bowling , just saying . The only bit i have trouble with is having a low backswing doing this , i can't create a high backswing .
How do you get a high back swing with the ball starting from such a low initial drop ? A true pendulum would only give a 45° back swing and slow ball speed, do you muscle it high ?
It’s in the drop. Like, grip the ball, but “drop” the weight of it and let your shoulder direct it back. A “properly” weighted ball (10% of your body weight or something like that, no higher than 16lb), will have the weight necessary to swing. Let your arm go with it and see what happens. Comments sections are hard to describe something that’s easier shown.
@@Just_Call_Me_Tim Thanks i think i get what your saying , it looks like you relax your shoulders as well , allowing your shoulder to follow the swing back , is that correct ?
Don’t worry to much about high back swing, you may injure yourself. Everyone has different ranges of motion when it comes to joints and muscles. Bowl relaxed.
Higher backswing is achieved by tilting the spine forward. The swing is still effortless but the “pendulum” is effectively tilted with the spine as it moves forward. Accelerating the ball into the swing also works but is probably not consistent.
I had a level swing as I learned to bowl. One day I decided to tighten the thumb drastically with tape so I didn’t have to grip at all but still could rock the ball off of the fingers with a relaxed thumb. The ball finally felt weightless thanks to the tape.
I also worked on opening the shoulders to learn to play a bit more inside.
I recored myself and was astonished that my swing was nearly 90 degrees vertical. It felt like the ball went weightless into the swing and thats it. I never knew I was doing it until I watched the footage.
I showed my pro-shop operator (he is a coach) and he said it looked normal. Something about having more flexibility contributing to a higher swing.
I have tried to actually lower it and have gotten it to a more reasonable level over time.
The takeaway to have a higher swing is:
-low grip pressure because thumb is tight
-spinal tilt in the first bit of approach
-opening of shoulders to allow joints more range of flexibility
Big bruh nailed that strike while trying to demonstrate what not to do 🤣💀 had to cut that shit straight out 💀
then how does this explain why some bowlers have a much higher back swing with the same weight ball dropping from the same height of the swing?
how do you hold onto to a heavy 15 lb bowling ball without excessively gripping the ball? My wrist immediately breaks as soon as I start my back swing.
go to a lighter ball if you cannot create a backswing and you grip the ball.
You can build up wrist strength by doing exercises, but in the meantime a lighter ball may be the best option just like Dylan said.
Also make sure the ball is drilled properly. Improperly drilled balls feel much heavier than a proper fit.
I dropped from a 15 lb ball to a 14 lb ball and have much better control
This is probably why my elbow and bicep are hurting lately. I'm not letting the ball fall free enough because I think I will lose speed if I do but even forcing gets me barely to 16mph. Ughhhh. I just need to relax and do a better free flow push away
No it is because you are work. You need to work out with weights
@@donsullivan6199 I do daily and I swim 2x a day. Oh well. Gonna drop to a 14lb ball again.
@@scotty2221 swimming is great but it does not help you with bowling. You need to work out with weights 3 times a week after you lift weights you need a day or 2 for your muscles and ligaments to recover. A good exercise is to get a 20lb a 25lb and a 30lb dumbbell then use the dumbbells to bowl in slow motion. Do this on both arms. Then do one legged squats.
@@donsullivan6199 THanks Don! I will start doing this. It will be hard as I'm tired just all the time but will try my best. Thanks bud.
I am about Mr. Shady's size, have been bowling in leagues since 1979, and average in the upper two teens. I still bowl like I learned decades ago and am similar to the technique in this video - I pushaway when I start my approach. But a majority of bowlers today wait until after a step or two to begin their swing. I believe this gives them more hook, but I don't want any more so I have never tried a delayed pushaway. Maybe it is more accurate. What is Mr. Shady's perspective?
The pushaway in my game is SO key.I've always had "late timing".I'm a right handed mostly down and in "stroker"style.And a husky guy. 5'11"255 lbs.And 55 yrs old.
I learned from my(female)coach I had many years ago NOT to force the ball into it's swing.Like PDW and so many others do.I still try and roll the ball like I did back when it was straight urethane.But.I cannot play the shot I use to,out by the 5 board any more even with a mild reacting and drilled ball.The new stuff is SO aggressive.I'm almost tempted to get a "new technology" urethane to see how it works with my old down and in style.I use to typically stand about 15 and shoot about the 8 board with a little swing out to 5 ish and a mild reaction into the pocket.Now I'm standing with everything (obviously) adjusted about 5 left.And cannot play the big hook because of that muscle memory swing of the "old school" days.If I get too deep inside,say past 15 board I turn into Cpt.Chicken Wing. :- (
@@jeffbear3075 I am 5'9" 160lb and 63 and have always thrown 16 pounds. My style is to fling it as hard as I can, without losing accuracy, over the 7 board at the arrows. If its really slick the 6 or 8-11 if dry. I play relatively straight, my ball only goes a little right at the start. If I miss I want my ball to be light or too straight so I leave a 10, the easiest common spare in the book. I employ balls that hook just enough and aren't drilled to aggressive. My go to balls are the Storm Marvel Pearl and AstroPhysix.
@@drwisdom1 k
Because I suck big time I really didn't see a difference in either swing, or approach. 🤔 I also golf, and a great golf swing looks effortless just like bowling. Trying to explain how difficult both sports are to people is also very difficult
I’m gonna go bowling and I’m gonna try to actually get better usually I average about 78 and I will reply what I got 😃
I haven’t bowled in 20 years! Why am I watching this?
Wait, what are we talking about? 24 inches of what?
Coach: Magic
ghibi leading your ball out
What’s that 24”, can you pls. Explain that 24”.
All three look the same to me.
Mark Baker is the best bowling coach in the world!!
There's plenty of people out there who can coach...Bowling is an individual game with very few concrete standards. Mark Baker teaches from a leverage standpoint. Other teacher from a biometric standpoint. Mike Shady teaches from a finesse perspective of what constitutes the perfect physical aspect of the game. Some of what Mark teaches and I've met with him personally, some people aren't physically capable of doing. There are plenty of people who play the game at a top level and never played professionally. That's the same with coaches. Just because you played a sport on a professional level doesn't mean one's coaching abilities are on the same level as their playing abilities. What works for some people won't work for others but both people can compete at the exact same level.
@@jayvallandingham2406 Interesting response Jay. Of course there are plenty of coaches out there. How many can actually make a living at it? What kind of results do they get? I see the results Baker gets and for me there is no one better and more successful at it.
I watched this during a game and got a strike on my next bowl it’s lit
Nah the best kept secret is that if you're 2 handed, right handed and can't hit 10 pins practice throwing backup at them. My percentage went from around 40 to over 90 with about a month of practice. Also helps with previously incredibly difficult splits for right handers. ie: 2,8,10 and 4,10
Anyone else going bowling this afternoon?
Good tip but I think bowling's best kept secret is to NOT
sgueeze the ball...
As soon as you squeeze the muscles in your hand...wrist and forearm tense up...
And even if your pushaway is good
You are tense all the way thru it...so 1st and foremost
Let the bowling ball
Grip your hand do not grip the bowling ball...if you start your puhaway tense your finish will be
Tense...
I am not a pro but here's another great tip...the tighter the thumb hole you can roll your ball with the better your swing will be...get to a point where it
Finally hangs on your hand then take out a piece of tape (always use tape)...
and bowl...
Good luck on the lanes!!
I still don’t get it
Who else is going bowling shortly and trying to become a pro REAL fast LOL
24 inches of what?
Lol. I thought I missed something
Magic.....lol
Magic babe!
Yeah..24inches of what. Im in New zealand and I just dont understand the lingo of 24inches???
This is why bowling is a "game" and NOT a "sport." Its like darts or chess in the sense that you need ZERO athletic ability, strength, or god givin talent/ abilities... Literally ANYONE can be good, if they understand the fundamentals and proper technique and then practice. I played college baseball and almost had an opportunity to go pro, that requried 20 years worth of playing, practicing tirelessly, lifting weights everyday, running sprints for 20 minutes every morning for speed and 2 miles every afternoon for endurance conditioning as well as countless other drills and exercises... BUT for the life of me I never have been great at bowling. A good friend of mine who is a great guy, but a below average athlete and the kind of bluw collar dude that drinks a 12 pack of PBR everynight, kicked my ass over and over the last time I played. FINALLY after the 2nd game where he smoked me 140 to 210, he explained that I was over muscling the swing trying to "throw" the ball hard and that the extra speed wasnt allowing the spin to work, suggested I "roll" the ball with a smooth pendulum motion (like putting in golf) and slowing down the speed so the spin could catch and break properly. After about 3 frames I was in the zone and hit 4 or 5 strikes in a row (which for me is amazing!) I'm 34 and have been bowling all wrong for about 30 years!!!
Bowling is an individual sport but not a solitary individual sport. Young athletes travel, train and compete together. In training, different age groups come together and benefit from each other and compete with each other.
Brock left a 10 pin... Maybe a little more magic is needed
Ha ha.
I'm one of the shittiest bowlers in the world but will try to incorporate some of what I saw here.
24"??? I only have 5. 🙃
don't blink at the foul line?
We recommend not blinking at all ever. It's better to keep your eyes open.
just broke my ring finger tonight trying to showw off. pushing way too hard
"This flawed shot"
Gets a strike but camera angle + editing try to cover it up LMAOO
Then proceeds to show the full
Thank you, I will destroy my “friends” using those technique 😎
Flawed Shot the dude makes a strike Lamo
the best kept secret is an early release for maximum leverage. not this
These videos are always terrible, for some reason I keep watching
If I did this my ball speed would go down from 13.5 to about 12 or less.
That's the same thing my wife calls it
Please explain what you are measuring 24in from. I don't understand. Looks like other people don't either. Are you going to answer this question? If not, I'll unsubscribe. Other people have asked over a week ago. So are you going to answer or not. Ill give you a week then I'll hit the unsubscribe feature.
He's talking about the first 24 inches of the downswing.
He is talking of the first 24” of your down swing of your step, either 5 or 4 step..
@@remington1439 I still dont get it. but I watched the video many times and now bowl better.
When all three looks the same. 🤦🏾🤦🏾🤦🏾 This isn't good for my game 😂
I have no clue what’s going on 😭😭😭
Literally watched both examples and can't see any difference...lol
Every time he bowls it is the same.
24 inches of magic is what Shaq’s side chick says every time he visits her. Good tip, though. Going to try this whenever my bowling alley opens after the lockdown 😜
24 inches??? what the heck does this mean??
So never heard of this. Probably because this coach made it up. So basically a good approach in bowling is good? This is what the video is telling me? Don’t put a fancy title to something everybody knows!! Like duh dude!!! A good balanced approach is good. I’m confused as to what this video is saying. So we all should be mind blown that a bowling coach comes up with own definition of terms?
I'm confused also. There are so many things going on with your body, during the walk or run up, the timing of the release, the point of contact of ball with floor, the amount you bend down, the position of your wrist at release., not mention probably 10 other things. This guys off his rocker, that first 24 inches has a small part on the success of the ball upon contact.
Not getting serious with it. Just trying to beat my dad
I’m watching this to beat my girlfriend in 2 hours
Practically no leverage on the “perfect” shot.
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To be honest I don’t see a difference
Not really a secret at all. Haha.
Not anymore anyway. :-)
If He bowls a 9 I'm not impressed.
This is a complete an utter bullshit, Mike doesn't know what he is talking about, the important part of the arc is 25 inches, not 24 as he claims.
Bahahahahaha
What, exactly, am I supposed to be looking at? Even with the overlay with the handy 24-inches specified... 24 inches from what to what? Then, all three approaches LOOK identical, in the video. This video is basically a bunch of words that sound like they might be helpful but presented in a complete nonsensical manner. Instruction does no good if we're not clearly being told what we are being instructed to do.
If the moral of the story is "let gravity do the work on the backswing", you would be much further off focusing on that point, in plain English.
It is approximately 2 feet, or 24 inches, from your push off ("pushing" the ball away from your body in front of you at the beginning of your swing) to just past your legs during your backswing. Your arm swing is just like a pendulum. Also, when you begin your swing, may sure that you "push off" towards your target.
Thanks