Last Military to March With Swastikas
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- Опубликовано: 4 мар 2024
- One European nation's military still parades with swastika flags - who they are and why they do this makes for an interesting investigation.
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'The hisorically challenged' a wonderful understatement.
There's many of them about. 🙄
Oh boy
Agreed
@@MM0IMC vast majority of people sadly
The restarted if you will
If I'm correct, Finnish Air Force only removed the swastika from their uniforms. Apparently they got fed up explaining to foreign soldiers that the emblem has nothing to do with nazis.
Most of Finns know the story behind the Finnish swastika, and don't want it removed copletely,
This is only the case with the Air Force HQ. They changed their unit emblem. Obviously they also have a lot of foreign contacts so this matter comes up. Other AF units have not changed their emblems and AF Academy still has the swastika as a part of their logo. Other units never had the swastika as part of their logos. Most visible use of the swastika is indeed the flags. All AF units have the same motif in the center of the flag.
Hitler abused that symbol, regardless of what it meant to everyone around the world.
That's what I have to explain to college students who apparently studied Hinduism, World geography, and other religions, etc..
You interviewed all of them eh?
That's also not entirely true - as stated in this video, Finland was allied with the Nazi's. It's still a symbol of European ultra-nationalism, the ideology that the Nazi's were infamous for. It's also worth noting that the Nazis remain a contemporary political force in American and Europe, and exalting their symbols is not exactly a good look.
THANK YOU FOR SETTING THE RECORD STRAIGHT!! GREAT VIDEO! VERY INFORMATIVE!!
Thats incredible that people choose to be stupid rather than to be educated. History should not be erased, kept secret, revised, lied about nor forgotten.
It amazes me how little of history the common student knows. Thanks for this video.
watch Europa the last battle, if you want to learn everything about the nazis
there's literally 100,000+ years of history to learn, why would you expect children to know that much?
@@mRcOOL5YO Swastika has nothing to do with specifically Nazi's. You just made it obvious you missed the point.
The common student, or the average student?
@@MK-U-N im aware its much older than the nazis and im aware of its protective symbolism. I think we read the comment we posted on differently. I read the comment, as you read mine, that we only associate the swastika with the 1930 era Germany.
“The Historically Challenged”😂 that’s a polite way of putting it.
I resemble that remark!
I'm waiting for the 'ancient precedent' to reclaim it
The fact I was looking it up hours ago made me come here and save myself the “challenge”
The Swastika will be back, as will be the German desire to reclaim the lands stolen from it after WWII. I don't know how many generations it will take, and at 79 I won't live to see it, but deep in the German soul, it knows what it rightfully owns. It still needs living space.
all western nations is what he meant 😂
"the Swastika Laundry Company" sounds like a good name for a hardcore Punk or Death Metal band.
Or the name of a popular but expensive restaurant in Cali frequented by Gavin Newsom.
When I heard / seen that name in the video, I was thinking that that has to make a comeback of some kind. "The Swastika Laundry Company"....... lol.
@@zonian1966Errrrrrr NO!
Sounds like a good name for US-Foreverwars Inc.
Laugh! Great thought.
Thank you for the great research and beautifully explained.
Excellent, thank you Mr. Felton. I also loved the statement "The historically challenged".
“Failed Austrian Painter” “The Historically Challenged” I have never heard better phrases in a Mark Felton video lol 😂
It was unexpected 😂
Prancing around in planes festooned with swastikas of whatever colour😊
Worst one is "Unemplyed Austrian Painter" this is how Paul Von Hindenburg called Adolf
@@zlatas359”that moody little corporal”
@@zlatas359 I wonder if anyone has actually viewed his art works.
"The historically challenged" what a perfect phrase.
And I agree, "education and not erases" are needed, especially concerning history. Especially here in Germany
Otherwise, history will repeat itself.
Indeed. Because if you try to erase it and stop talking about the topic - it might be repeated. In Germany or elsewhere. That is the real danger.
@@57thorns history is repeating itself as we type
@@57thorns Like the british ww1 & ww2 Lend lease to russia ?
The mustache man from Austria has been proven 100% correct. The wrong side won, the west has been infiltrated and slowly destroyed by Bolsheviks and Marxists.
Take pride in the fact the Austrian painter tried to stop it.
Thank you for sharing this piece of history with us.
Excellent video. Well researched and presented.
We Ethiopians have the swastika in lalibela Church. I do not know how it got there, but this church was built around 1118 AD.
It got there bc it was a religious symbol far before Hitler turned it into a symbol of hate
Someone put it there. Mystery solved.
It got there bc it was a religious symbol before it was turned into one of hate
Time-travelling Nazis, obviously. What other rational explanation could there possibly be?
Before the painter it was either a symbol for luck, movement or the sun. Builder probably heard about it and thought it would look real nice on a church.
You mentioned the Canadian town of Swastika, Ontario, which got its name in the early 1900s. During the Second World War there was an attempt to rename it 'Winston', similar to how the city of Berlin, Ontario had been permanently renamed 'Kitchener' during the First World War. The town's residents told the Provincial authorities "to hell with Hitler, we came up with our name first". They kept their old name.
No worries now, they give standing ovations to Nazis in parliament haha
There was a railway station between Ontario and Quebec in this city. I felt very uneasy and a little scarred as a student in the train. Even though I was familiar with the original symbol in Bangladesh.
And what do the current residents say 😂
@@jr2904They didn’t. Being in German army doesn’t mean you are Nazi. Fighting against USSR doesn’t make you Nazi either.
No hope in going to the past come to the loving savior today
Seek his Holy Spirit in prayer today he can give you peace confort and guidance today
Romans 6:23
For the wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.
Come to Jesus Christ today
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Repent and follow him today seek his heart Jesus Christ can fill the emptiness he can fill the void
Heaven and hell is real cone to the loving savior today
Today is the day of salvation tomorrow might be to late come to the loving savior today
John 3:16-21
16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. 17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. 18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. 19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. 20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved. 21 But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.
Mark 1.15
15 And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel.
2 Peter 3:9
The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.
Hebrews 11:6
6 But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him.
Jesus
Excellent! Video smart Man!
Your videos are very smart,
I enjoy learning
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Vielen Dank für die tolle Recherche und schön erklärt.
"The Historically Challenged."
That explains about 90% of the general population.
😂
The problem with Nazi Apologists isn't that they're historically challenged, even though they often overlook key details, the real problem is that they're just fine with Nazis in general
Felton himself is historically challenged.
@@otofoto Your comments makes it appear that you are upset he doesn’t show Nazis in a good light. Get over it. They were animals.
@@otofotoUmmm, Have you looked up his credentials?
"Education and not erasers would seem to be the requirement today" VERY well said.
totally agree, education not prohibition.
Yes. There is so much ignorance afoot.
I dunno.... that's a pretty big ask of society...
Education poses a danger to our democracy.
This quote should be posted in every history class
One of your most informative videos and that’s saying a lot. Thank you for all your awesome content.
As is always the case, Mr. Felton's historical videos are extremely well researched and much appreciated.
"Education, not an eraser" - Words to Live by!
Yeah, education! Like when we went to school and the teacher taught us to rip the eraser off the end of each pencil and throw it in the trash instead of teaching us what it was for.
Someone should teach that to the American wokesters.
That's a quote I will remember.
Doesn't help that they sorta sided with Germany and now a days struggle with nazis in their governent.
@@raedwulf61 They'll just call you anti-woke/racist/sexist and try to smother you in buzzwords before trying to get you cancelled on social media.
Okay the Swastika Laundry Company had me laughing 😆
My parents and grandparents remember the Swastika Laundry
@@OscarOSullivanI don't think I will forget it now 😂
The designe of the truck was pretty catchy, great sense of marketing to whoever came up with it 😛
Remember the unusual logo as a child, no to mention the three wheeled vehicles.
And the van with a red color background💀
Thank you Mark for the history to remind us
We visited Finland back in the 90‘s and came along a soldiers monument bearing a swastika.
As Germans, we were a little bit „confused“ but some locals explained the background. Very interesting indeed.
"Keiner sagt ihnen das wir verloren haben!"
@@Nazi_in_Nagalandayooooooooo
United States of Germany..LOL!!! US.Colony..!!
As Germans it shouldnt have been that confusing seeing as you fought together exterminating Russians in the 40s
@@norwacheese4566Norway is too
Mark needs to be awarded "The Golden Shovel" for his work in "digging up" historical hidden facts.
Best comment here!
dunno if thats the joke here but that award is already reserved for another category~
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Ukraino use swastika
@@zonian1966 The Ukrainian Navy is no more.
Education is the operative word . Needed more now than ever.
Opening sequence is from the parade of Defence Force's flag day, 4th June 2022, in Helsinki. I participated on that day in the volunteer organizations' flag section. Very memorable, to march in front of thousands spectators.
The Swastika symbol was abundant on many Navajo Indian blankets in the United States 1800's - 1920's, thanks for sharing true history.
This symbol can be found in cave paintings tens of thousands of years old all across the world. To connect such a symbol with 20th century Nazism is absolutely moronic.
Highway road signs in the states of New Mexico and Arizona features the swastika until Hitler came to power. And do not look closely at the symbol of the WW1 American Lafayette Escadrille. Or the crown molding of a synagogue in Boston, NYC, or Chicago (I do not recall where it is at).
Educate, not erase. People who do not understand history are condemned to repeat it.
Those Navajo ALSO have a non nazi swastika military emblem and is the only American military uniform swastika BESIDES the actual Nuremberg swastika with a balance scale 卐⚖️ like that representing the nazis getting justice in court after the war...but native Americans also had one those are the two American swastikas on the uniform
Also, people forget that the "raised arm" salute was used for years by Olympic Athletes among others (I've heard it goes back to at least the Roman era). The Nazis stole it for their disgusting propaganda.
@@AckzaTV nice to see that some people know something about my Native American AKA American Indian people's history . Far too often people in America forget their are OTHER minority groups in America besides black people those of us from the OTHER groups rarely see any recognition of our culture .
'The historically challenged', what a banger of a phrase, I am stealing it, thanks Dr. Felton:D
Wonderfull remark by you and by Mark!
Is that why he's talking so slow?
@@evanmurphy2473 He's talking at what used to be called "lecture speed" and I wish more RUclips influencers would pick it up. Some are SO FAST you can't follow them; others are so slow they put you to sleep. Felton has it just right: Lecture speed was designed so students could take notes during a lecture.
Ignorance is supposed to be bliss. I guess that doesn't apply in all cases🤔
Everyone's all for history until you mention AZOV
Very interesting, thanks for this
Early American automobile Co used a swastika as their logo in the 1920’s.
Thanks mark, great subject ❤👍🏻
‘Education, not erasers ‘ shall be my motto and mantra henceforth. Bravo Prof Felton for yet another superb production!
You should take care because there is a large difference between education and exaltation. We remember the Nazi party from our historical records, not by continuing to parade their symbols in public. That's what it means to leave something in the past - maintain the record for the purposes of education, but not to exalt their values and symbols.
And you should be concerned about people who would want you to confuse education and exaltation.
This comment is the most British thing I’ve read in a decade haha you’re right though
I'm stealing this......
@@monsieurdorgat6864 Agreed. If we truly want to make "never again" a permanent state, we have to remember what the Nazi swastika stood for and teach others about it as well.
@@monsieurdorgat6864 You seem to be confusing education yourself. Surely as an educated fellow you know the difference and thus dont need to erase anything
Back in the 1970s here in the United States there was a television series called "Kolchak: The Night Stalker". It was a horror series focusing on supernatural occurrences in the city of Chicago. In the episode "Horror In The Heights" a Jewish neighborhood suddenly finds itself festooned with swastikas. Upon investigation, Kolchak discovers an Indian gentleman who has been hunting a mythological creature that devours humans and the swastikas are their cultural holy symbols designed to keep the creature away.
They will find a way to make it seems antisemetic
By the way the writer of that episode was a gentleman named Jimmy Sangster, a British screenwriter and director who was particularly famous for his work on Hammer Horror films.
We had the Night Stalker on Australian tv, and as a young lad it would scare the pants off me sometimes.
I remember that episode.
I remember that show, as a boy it was a favorite of mine! My favorite episode was when he had to hunt down a monster that took the form of someone you loved and trusted to get to you.
A great show, that inspired the x-files. In fact Darren McGavin (Kolchak) played Arthur Dales, the FBI agent who started the x-files! I'm not sure if you younger people reading this are aware of it? If not, check it out, you won't regret it... Man I'm getting old! But watch it!
Another most spectacular Felton production & narration
I very much appreciate the decidedly NON conspiratorial nature of your journey through history. This kind of stuff can easily be taken in that direction. Fascinating stuff - thanks!
“Even I wore the swastika”…. Ladies and gentlemen, we got em! 😂
My son didn't, he was in the 1st Colchester Air Scouts .......
This is the FBI you are surrounded
If only that were true. It seems I run into neo-Nazi creeps all the time these days. They really are nothing compared to the real Nazis I met while serving in Germany in the 1970's. There were still a lot of them quite alive back then. Some still clung to their Nazi beliefs, but most of them had wised up to the fact that Hitler and his gangsters had propagandized and gas-lighted them and the rest of their country -- setting the stage for it to be blasted to ruins. That's why it saddens me to see so many falling for the same fascist strongman lies and propaganda schemes here.@@GeorgeTyrrell-qm2ep
@@georgerobartes2008during the 80's?
@edwinalexis593 bro where have you been for the last 140 years the FBI was formed in 1908
OMG Swastika laundry... "Let us be your final solution, for all things laundry"
Yikes! (It does have a ring to it, though ... !)
Lmao, I'm dead.
"After we're done, everything is white and clean"
Top one comment, no doubt 😅😅😅
@@glahaye"Only the purest whites will remain"
They got the same pass that Indian and Japanese people have: "We were using it before Hitler did."
Telling as Asian to stop using the Swastika is like telling a European to stop using the Cross
@@aAverageFan Christianity started in the Middle East and it honestly should've stayed there.
I knew about the the history coming from Asia, but not everything else.. I always learn from your clips. Thank you!
Felton failed to tell you that it originated in Europe. The earliest example in the archaeological record is from Ukraine (Mezine) carved into mammoth ivory and carbon-dated to 12,000 years old. Just as 'modern' Europeans sailed around the globe in their great sailing ships (the high tech of the day), spreading Western civilization wherever they went, early Europeans traveled far afield spreading their culture, technology, and symbols to other peoples.
"Education not erasure" that's the most sensible takeaway from this video. Thanks, Dr. Felton
The Swastika is the ONLY geopolitical accentuated symbolism that is NOT featured in the premier global historical antiquity of Africa and the scientific origins of mankind and civilization as we know of both today---it lends credence to the concept of "Indo-European" mythology and origin stories.....
Fr dude
We want Swatsika back.
It's not a "Nazi cross". Nazi crosses are even oriented differently.
Start in South East Asia with those not using it in their original meanings, but as nazi symbolism. Very extranging back when I visited Thailand as a western European and see nazi symbolism. Thought for a sec it must be Hindu or budhist, but it was not.
The “Historically Challenged” the noble way of saying “Bless their heart”
❤
The British way in fact.
Not everyone is from the South, so they need their own saying.
Actually, for such a high quality channel, I think phrases like that can be interpreted as a putdown.
@@JohnnyAngel8 Bless your heart.
8:02 I found the situation that geometry does matter in. Specifically the angle.
It appears that a 45 degree angle makes it go from a symbol of peace to war real quickly.
Yeah I agree, the Nazis are the only ones I’ve seen who tilt it. Makes a world of difference lol
I think I was 10 when my parents took me to a museum featuring artifacts from a pre-Columbian Indian settlement in the Southwest. I was shocked to see different kinds of pottery emblazoned with swastikas. The association of the symbol with the Nazis was so strong, based on everything I had seen, that it took me a while to figure out that there could be no connection, and the symbol was just a decorative motif.
"education, and not erasers should be the requirement today"... well said, well said.
erasure*
Brainwashing is not educating anyone.
Tell that to the people who rip down rainbow flags. Then we have a deal
Education is about sharing truth with others -- not sharing lies , 'my truth' , harmful dogma and nonsense .
Lousy example , in my opinion . @@andy4849
@@andy4849 There is a difference between Education and Indoctrination is my point .
"Education not erasure" should be the motto of historians.
I absolutely agree.
I’m in full agreement with you on that.
Yeah but if that happens people will ask questions that many don't want answered ..like why ally with communists who invaded and enslaved Europe
@@Rumpleforeskin77If people can’t handle truth it’s their problem
I agree, too.
thanks for this account. It is. vey informative and. should help many to understand the symbol. .
Great video and topic, Mark!
Also, most Buddhist and Shinto sites/shrines in Japan are marked with swastikas (usually a single one from the shrines I've visited myself)-- you can even see them marking these Japanese sites on the Google maps, Waze app maps, and the other maps!
Contemporary videos interviewing Japanese show that elderly Japanese know it was a Nazi symbol, but evidently young Japanese weren't taught much in school about World War II, including not learning the swastika was a Nazi symbol.
They also dont teach them much about the atrocities they committed either
Swastika is not Nazi symbol from the beginning that what Buddha statue have or Finland used was really nothing to Germany as Hitler stole it and many other symbols the Nazis stole from other countries beliefs waffen ss used Norse mythology symbol's of viking's that they stole
@@nektarios5291Does the UK teach about SAS troops murdering the Irish?
@@nektarios5291 we Hindus use swastika on our homes , temples , and every good auspicious day ..
We are using swastika from thousands of years ..
One mad man and his party's deed has nothing to do with our swastika..
If some party uses cross as his sign and then kills many innocent people (they did many times in crusades ) ..
And if some party uses islamic signs and kills many non Islamic people .. will you guys ban cross and that moon flag ?? No ..
Then digest this too ..
We don't care what happened in Germany.. he didn't take our permission for using this tilted swastika ..
So why we should take care of what nazis did
i Love Mark`s videos, i always learn something new!
This symbol was in use by Europe over 2,500 year ago. It is a revered symbol in Asia.
Yes, that is literally what he says in the video.
4000 years. the symbol of Ayrans. From far east asia to north america. We are being removed from history and the streets today
It's an ancient Aryan symbol, that's why the Nazis adopted it, they had the whole "we wuz Aryanz" shtick going on.
And that's the first thing you learned about it, eh?
@@DrewPicklesTheDarkain’t no way “we wuz Aryanz” 💀
Imagine being an SS administrative officer receiving updates on Himmler ordering SS-attached surveyors to look for pots and mud huts while Hitler was doing lines in the war room.
"history education and not erasers" . Right on Mr. Felton.
Bang on. They need him in the cities of Bristol and Oxford.
And a good point about the USAF white star. Soviet Union had a red star.
Totally agree
Nuh it is history erasion. And replaced with propaganda
@@PaulFellows3430but that’s erasing history no one should be proud of
Pop in every time at the very least to hear this bomb ass intro and that beautiful voice.
Nice piece of history, Mark.
However, Chemists and Crystallographers, I still caution you to be careful about publishing images with D4h symmetry. :)
edit: or is it C4v?
The Ontario government renamed the town of Swastika to "Winston" but locals ripped the signs down. In British Columbia there was also a junior hockey team once called the Fernie Swastikas.
Well done by the citizens of Swastika by standing up to authority, I have always believed in history with warts and all "the good and the bad" you have to learn about your mistakes and Nazis Germany is probably the biggest to learn from, but to change a name is a definite no.... To remove a religious emblem from a flag in another country is definite no.
What a surreal timeline we live in lol. Just to be clear about what we're seeing here:
1) Nazis adopt a symbol. It's not 100% clear why, but it seems they likely went for it as it's a very old symbol in Europe (earliest form of that symbol found in Vinca culture, roughly 5400-4500 BC) and is common on earlier Germanic goods; and all that ties into their ideas around "aryans" (basically just means "indo-european" in modern terms).
2) English translators who were early to the "let's translate Nazi texts" game made the highly questionable call to translate "hakenkreuz", which is literally "hooked cross", to "swastika" (the hindu symbol) despite the fact that the only possible link relevant to Nazi ideology is that the Hindu swastika *might* come from indo-european migrations (unlikely because it's like 6000 years ago; but it's not impossible), but the Nazis don't have a claim to the past lol.
3) Some English speakers go around targeting a word that has no actual link to the evil folk they hate; all because an English translator translated a word wrong. What a meme.
In Edmonton, they removed the name from Edmonton Eskimos to Edmonton Elks, because they think its offensive.. What is going on in Canada??
The Edmonton Eskimos also used to be an ice hockey team. Look up Eddie Shore.@@americaisacontinent.
@@americaisacontinent.Socialism. Trudeau & Co. are reforming Canada into a Socialist Democracy, like Sweden. There are some in the U.S. that are trying to do the same.
Stay strong. Refuse it and resist it. F**k the Left.
You had me at "failed Austrian painter"
None of these people probably ever actually look at his paintings. And if they do, they're told beforehand they are his and then they parrot opinions that don't actually review artistic merits.
Many of his paintings are fine. Nothing I wouldn't hang on my wall.
Sadly, Felton is a gatekeeper and most of his information is incorrect.
@@Aivottaja Well his Art career certainly failed, and his backup job failed so bad he did 'imself in. Proper failure in my book.
@@Joesolo13But not because he was a bad artist.
@@Joesolo13like many an artist lol Edit Bach's works were used as butcher's paper by his mother after he died.
Pre WW2 we had three hockey teams that used the swastika Fernie, Edmonton and Windsor.
Your channel remains impressive.
As a Finnish Defensive Force Reserve Second Liutenant and an avid follower of your channel, I applaud your always historically accurate episodes ⚔️🇫🇮
Sisu.
I second that, I knew about the historical origins of the Swastika and the the Canadian trail named for it, but everything else was new to me and much appreciated.
Watch europa the last battle
@@ZeroIsMany Doesn't matter. In Finland it's not a symbol of nationalsozialists.
The swastika is an ancient symbol of our Indo European ancestors. It wasnt just muh nazis who used it most of Europe used it for millennia even during WWII. Including USA and Australia.
Up until the bolsheviks decimated the Russian Empire in 1917 murdering tens of millions of innocent civilians in Russia and Ukraine including the Russian Tzar and his entire family via barbaric cruelty and deliberate starvation, the Russians used the swastika on everything including their Bank notes.
The banning of the swastika is just an attempt to hide our history by the corrupt winners of WWII. People are easier to control if they have no history or roots to connect to. *Change My Mind*
"Historically challenged" is a term that describes the current times. Astounding that all these people supporting the current thing are such experts in geopolitics
It's not really "astounding" at all when you consider the state of geopolitics today.
To quote a kinda not very great person:
"The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter."
-Winston S. Churchill
@@theapexsurvivor9538 Bad argument. You should use the other quote that goes:
"Democracy is the worst form of government, besides all the others"
@@vercot7000 are you stating that there's a Better argument against democracy than spending 5 minutes talking with the average voter? I've certainly yet to find one.
@@vercot7000 also, probably worth noting, no-one here is arguing Democracy is bad (though most representative democracy and direct democracy systems are literal garbage and unfortunately make up the vast majority of implemented ones currently, and I will die on that particular hill).
Rather, we're all saying that the current state of the average person is depressing in their ignorance of all the topics they're supposedly experts in (I'd rate myself as slightly above average, in that I am aware of how little I know, but still knowing enough to get a general idea of how miserable of a situation we're in and to not immediately jump to a stupid solution like communism or fascism [was a bit of a tankie growing up, then I realised how many flaws pretty much every form of socialism have and went hard right before realising the flaws on that side and ending up with a more pragmatic view, if not entirely sane/practical/personable position on most things]).
Can´t get the image out of my head. Little Mark runnig through the forests with swastika on his uniform 🤣
"Historically challenged" I laughed so hard. Sad but true. Thanks for the great videos!
"Even i wore a swastika for my boy scout uniform"
He got us in the first half
LMFAOO
👴: oh.. yes
I remember being in Malaysia, and as a Hindu, i had a chain with the hindu swastika.. There was a western student who went around calling me a racist. However asians didnt budge and thought she was nuts. Eventually one day she confronted me as a racist and said I should wear that symbol as it stands for hate. I had to educate her and tell her, our symbol doesn't stand for hatred. She still didnt want to listen to me. Most of the asian classmates also got behind me and told her, either accept it or STFU. thankfully she stopped once the university told her to drop it
I have several Swastika tattoos
My Hindu wife has swastika ear rings. People would look at me, being white, like I was a white supremest making her wear them.
Good. Illigitumi non carborundum.
@@bretthess6376"Don't Let The Bastards Grind You Down."
@@roundrock63 I converted to Hinduism just for the Swastikas
All too many aren't interested in being educated about history but find it easier to erase it thereby refusing to learn from it which, inevitably, leads to repeating it.
The look on that 1 guy's face 😳in the thumbnail is priceless.😅
Yep the 45th Infantry Division now they use the Thunderbird as their emblem.
There might have been friendly fire instances otherwise lol
The division patch was sown onto the shoulder sleeve. The Thunderbird also looks cool, I own the patch.
Yes a national Guard Unit from my Home state
@@tulsaviolet Oklahoma
The 45th landed at Sicily, Salerno and Anzio in the Italian campaign. In August '44 they were part of Operation Dragoon and landed in southern France - then clawed their way up and into Germany - liberating Dachau concentration camp at the war's end.
2:33 😂 idk why, but this image just cracked me up!
"Swastika laundry co." Is just such a bizzarly funny idea i can't help myself...😅
Monty Python esque
🤣🤣🤣 I was laughing at that photo. Just looks so funny 😂.
@@smith1990 It doesn't help that the van's red
"We have this new laudry concept. Mostly used in Boncentration Bamps.
"@@nightplumber1
White sheets, white supremacy etc. etc.
Very good info!
Such a good video.
2:30 that "swastika laundry" just cracked me up, it's like something straight out of Monty Python. Easily could have been part of that Mr. Hilter of Meinhead-sketch.
I believe that version of swastika used in Finnish medals and such is known as "fylfot".
Aged like milk
the red white and black color scheme is just *chefs kiss*
В знаке НАТО есть свастика
It's known as hakaristi. Been in use before nazis
Comunque dopo il passato sembra una presa per il culo fare sventolare una svastica...almeno che serva per il nome di in un gruppo punk/hardcore
I’m Canadian. As a child living in the UK in the 1970’s and attending the American School in London, where I had a number of Jewish friends, I recall being as surprised as they were when we visited Roman ruins (outside London) and saw the swastika featured prominently in flooring mosaics. Later on, when I worked in Kenora, Ontario, I visited the Lake of the Woods Museum, and saw how the swastika symbol adorned an Ojibway native costume, which itself dated to the turn of the 1900’s, well before, of course, the use of the swastika by the Nazis.
It’s always fun to show how far that symbol goes back and just as interestingly how esoteric the movements were that end up making it the symbol of Germany, which ties back to early 1900s occultism. Mind you the same sorts of hidden groups are what lead to the US dollar bill to be the way it is today and why a lot of odd architectural choices weee made.
Previously conquered culture tends to absorb alot of the traits of their former occupiers.
India is the blatant example.
But Russia and the Mongolians are a notable example aswell.
Possibly Israel and the Germans
By the NSDAP.
Zuni, Native American tribe, also used the swastika. Don't know the time frame.
There is a Byzantine temple in Israel that has swastikas in it's floor mosaic.
The Finnish Air Force academy flag also has a flower petal design similar to that of Saga Prefecture.
"Historically challenged" I'm going to use that one
0:44 "Failed Austrian painter" are words I never expected Dr. Mark Felton to say
I prefer to call him a 'mediocre Austrian painter', because anything else makes his art seem vastly more interesting than it actually is.
It just shows how biased and untrustworthy Mark is. He knows really well why "painter" was elected and how much he did for his people, yet he cater to the unfunny joke for ignorant
id pay you good money to attempt a recreation of his art lmao you couldnt@@jic1
I wouldn't say failed. His paintings are after all highly collectible.
@@kneegerman2076 I have noticed the same.
Huge respect from Finland for making this video Dr. Felton! Kiitos!
Perkele
Koko video käytettiin Suomen mainitsemiseen niin kai sit viikon pämppä torille
jos elät suomes, oot onnelinen
@@_setbes vitut
“Education and not erasures” this is perfectly said
What Hitler used was Hakenkruz related mostly to Christianity. To shift the blame from Christianity, West changed the name to Swastika, a Sanskrit word.
Its amazing how much power a simple symbol can have and inspire. I think hiding it away, banning it, defacing it and trying to 'delete' it from history only makes it more powerful
Yeah, because people are trying to ban it, a lot of edgy teenagers draw it, and once these teenagers get backlash, they wonder WHY it's so dangerous 7 decades later.
And so they go to alt-right places, where they get groomed into political extremism, and this time they'll draw the swastika because they *actually* support it
I think schools should depict the symbol the same way we depict the Christian cross or the muslim crescent.
"You see, class, this is the Buddhist symbol, it means good fortune in many cultures, and many replicated it"
It's not hard
No wonder the 3rd Brigade Azov have been so brazen since the 2013-14 coup...
More powerful every day
@@joebenson528 Russia is entitled to Ukraine then?
@@BoCainethere’s always one bot who tries to make it all about ukraine
Should also be mentioned that in Finland versions of the swastika have existed since the iron age. Originally they were more complex symbols that more resembled L shaped blocks, arrows or a looping ribbon making the swastika shape but around the 1700s the simplified shape became more popular. You can see both the ancient and newer ones occationally in Finnish art and architechture.
Swastikas have existed in various styles all over Eurasia (and likely elsewhere), including Europe, for thousands and thousands of years. I don't think they were a newly popularised symbol at the time but rather a common motif for all time.
It was also used in Germany since the Iron age and probably before. Look up “Oldest image of Odin on Broch” and you’ll see the swastika infront of Odins face
@@skyworm8006yep, there are cave paintings and carvings from 10,000+ years ago with the swastika, and even carved talismans from 8,000 years ago which resemble frog-like swastikas. It's about as old a symbol as you can get without going pre-neolithic.
@@theapexsurvivor9538 That was a practical joke by Nostradamus on one of his trips through the time. ("I'll leave an evil Nazi symbol to the past for the future historians, ha ha, silly me")
Tursaansydän
One man managed to ban an historic symbol, a name, and a style of mustache.
No, it was the chevvish medi@ that accomplished all of that.
No, it was the group that owns the media that accomplished all that.
Why ? You can still display it and wear a funny mustache. Unless you worry about what people think.
@@jdmarti100 Unless you dress up as Charlie Chaplin. 🥸
@@nathanbeer3338 meh.. Why I have no interest
"...particularly in the face of the current fashion for historical revision"
This line is very well said and interesting (and might offend a certain group of people today 😂)
We now live in the era of the "Historically Challenged" as Mark brilliantly put it !
Certain members of society nowadays are indeed 'challenged' in many ways!!
Mark himself is historically challenged sometimes.
@@NotEvenDeathCanSaveU how so?
@@adamtier3263 sometimes he just pushes obvious myths or disproven narratives that had nothing to do with history or reality and all to do with post war propaganda.
Native Americans used it as well. My Great-Grandfather attended Chilocco Indian Agricultural School in the 30's, and his year book is decorated in them. Their football team at the time had them on their jerseys.
Germany did not use the Swastika from India, they created an entire other symbol called the “ Hakenkreuz “ but the Americans are so uneducated they use the wrong terminology.
It's a symbol with a positive energy, usually means stuff like luck, prosperity, peace and so on and similar meaning it had for the NSDAP, then those who write our history books turned it into something evil, it wasn't AH who did that, they just just want us to think that.
One Lafayette Escadrille pilot had it on his aircraft with a native Indian head painted too. Swastikas were in fact not an uncommon sight on planes during World War 1, even some Jewish pilots had them painted on their aircraft. Although shocking nowadays, it was a symbol of luck for them.
We want Swatsika back.
It's not a "Nazi cross". Nazi crosses are even oriented differently.
@@2killnspray9 Its a powerful symbolism that united a whole nation that went thru quite an awful crisis. The puppet masters now will avoid any of such huge crises to emerge again, if you throw the frog into an already boiling water it will jump out, if you boil it slowly with the frog already in it however.. Thats why the symbol will never see any official support again from these people who run things, they know its meaning and if people realized what it actually meant and they united again, it would spell doom for those power structures.
When it appears in Heraldry it is called a Fyflot - although I doubt it will ever be used again.
Refreshing education, not INDOCTRINATION. Nice, very watchable videos. Definately the correct tone for learning facts without a political twist.
“Reject modernism, embrace tradition”
- Sun Tzu
Logical conclusion
reading reminds me of Meiji restoration
modernism Japan unit vs tradition Samurai
Emperor vs shogun
Did he really write that?
"Reject human, embrace monkey"
- My dad
@@axelastori484 nope
As youngster in the 60's and early 70's I often spent my pocket money on Airfix model kits, one I recall was a Bristol Beaufighter, it came with 1940's Finnish decals which were blue Swastikas' the instructions explained the use of the Swastikar by the Finns so when the video started I guessed it was the Finnish Airforce, it's funny how snippets of history picked up from unexpected places decades ago can stick in your memory.
Yeah… actually Bristol Blenheim…I had that model too. No Beaufighters on FAF inventory.
My brother had a couple of MEs - same era - and the decals came with a little note with them as well, from memory explaining that they'd nicked the symbol from elsewhere being mentioned in there somewhere. You're right, I hadn't thought of it until you mentioned it.
A Finn here.✋️ I remember that some years ago a swedish airplane enthusiast got fired from his job (teacher if I remember correctly) after posting images of WWII warplane, a finnish warplane to be exact, with swastikas on it, to Facebook. At least that was what reported at the time by finnish press. Also in 2013, one of swedish newspapers made headlines with story about "finnish swastika-shaped pastries" by which they referred to our christmas time pastry called "joulutorttu". Rather than swastika-shaped, joulutorttus are pin wheel -shaped pastries which have traditionally plum jam in middle of pastry. But after that news headline, it became a short-time trend among the youth to "give those swedish reporters what they want". ie. I had to eat/ receive pictures of joulutorttus which were "differently shaped to match up with the ideals of that swedish reporter".
@@kurolotus4851 A Finnish Australian here. LMAO!🤣 🤣That’s awesome! What a fantastic story! Give those “Hurris “ what they want! Thanks for sharing. Terkut Kallelta Sydneystä.🇫🇮🇦🇺
@@kurolotus4851 So Finnish! We are very stubborn…I refuse to travel for work ie conventions etc. I’m an engineer not a salesperson for the company. I don’t want to go to Vegas when I prefer to hang out with my dog, my Car and PlayStation.🤣🤪👍
The Mississippi State Capital has it on the tile floor in part of the building but it predated WW2.
It never ceases to amaze me seeing shocked foreigners gawk at the buddhist swastikas but remain unaware of the rising sun symbol on their clothes and whatnot. "Historically Challenged" indeed.
"Hisotrically challenged" made me smile. You have coined a term I truly hope will catch on, and, maybe, will foster some individual effort for study.
As always, well done. Thank you.
Felton did make misinformation in this video,the fairy tale of hitler stealing the swastika from some far oriental origin is completely false, and it's been pushed by this channel, too. The swastika also known as hackenkreuz finds origins in the germanic nordic pagan history. The finns have a form of swastika aswell called viking sun cross. And the swastika was adopted by far right nationalist organisations such as the thule society wich controlled the freikorps after WWI. Hitler was also part of that organisation before creating the NSDAP. The symbol was also used by The Order of the New Templars , a proto-fascist secret society in Germany founded by Jörg Lanz von Liebenfels as afar as 1900.
I love how Mark says "failed Austrian painter" 😂😂
Gods Champion✋️💛
absolutely stupid remarque.
it is not because you hate someone that you must lack objectivity.
have you seen his paintings?
are you able to do at least the sames???
for most i doubt
as a painter lyself. i can tel you that he jad some skils
maybe he was not the best but he had indubitable talents
It's so this video isn't flagged, he who must not be named
@@mattymc6802 maybe
@@firstlast-dj5ouAnd yet, he failed to make a career of his art, so 'failed painter' is entirely appropriate. Many talented artists were failures - that is not an indictment of their talent, merely a statement of fact.
Historically challenged, that’s a good way of putting it
When I was going to school as a child in japan, the Bhuddist temples are marked on maps with that symbol. The shinto shrines on the map are indicated withe a torii symbol, the entrence gates on at the shrines.
The clockwise symbol is not from the same origin as the German WW2 counterclockwise symbol.
But I also have also wondered why the hands on the clock do righty tighty instead of lefty loosey.
Quite right considered lucky symbol.
Exactly!
@@Peter14523 It wasn't lucky for Adolf.
Yes I saw that and did mention it once don’t forget Japan we’re allies with the devils 👿😂
Nazi’s also had an eagle we should ban all eagles!
Let’s cancel the American bald eagle
The painter loved dogs, let's ban all dogs
Gonna go tell all the eagles that they should stop being eagles
They stole it from Napoleon....who stole it from the Romans (Eagle and Wreath). The German Eagle goes way back through the Holy Roman Empire.
@@philiph6456yeah and they stole the swastika... so... it's just the same
Damn, “Education, not erasers, would seem to be the requirement today.” goes insanely hard.
This entire thing seems extremely interesting to me
Austrian Painter ❌
Finnish Painter ✅
Sigurd Wettenhovi-Aspa is the Finnish version of funny painter. He had wild theories. For example: Finns being sons of Ancient Egyptians.
Akseli Gallen-Kallela?
@@mlgsty8880 Sounds a lot like the mormons believing the Native Americans are descendants of Israelites that sailed to America.
@@mlgsty8880 He was an aristocrat and explorer/world traveler that might have eaten one two many shamanic mushrooms in south asia. But at least he wasn't meth addict Hitler.
@@mlgsty8880it was all parody, as he has said himself.
Good informative video!!! Was stationed in South Korea from 1992-1993 while in US Army. Spent a week in orientation and one of the things they tell you is that you WILL see swastikas in the country and why. They explained that it is a Buddhist symbol, and you WILL see on their buildings and gates to their buildings. Was wandering around the town I was stationed one day and just happened to notice them as was passing by a temple. My thought was: huh, looky there, learned something from orientation, and kept walking.
he did make misinformation in this video,the fairy tale of hitler stealing the swastika from some far oriental origin is completely false, and it's been pushed by this channel, too. The swastika also known as hackenkreuz finds origins in the germanic nordic pagan history. The finns have a form of swastika aswell called viking sun cross. And the swastika was adopted by far right nationalist organisations such as the thule society wich controlled the freikorps after WWI. Hitler was also part of that organisation before creating the NSDAP. The symbol was also used by The Order of the New Templars , a proto-fascist secret society in Germany founded by Jörg Lanz von Liebenfels as afar as 1900.
its so sad to see, as a german of quite liberal(in the classical sense) persuasion, that you could talk about things like that in the 90ies, but not anymore...all the while theres some wild revisionism going on at the same time. it makes me mad, almost...
It's more than just Buddhist, it existed in Hinduism prior to that and occured throughout many cultures
it's here in my house... the sign will never be erased from me.
It's those who banned the sign that should be against the wall and ...
2:33 Got to admit, I got a bit of a chuckle about the "Swastika Laundry".
How do you manage to find such diverse and fascinating stories and so frequently! Thank you Dr Felton.
He tries not to watch mainstream media.
Just a wild guess. 🕳
While Dr. Felton does have some very niche research, as a historian I'd say that most stories like this are actually commonly known among historians. It's just that historians are rarely creative-types, so our knowledge is rarely spread to the mainstream.
@@jason-hy8ci with you on that my friend.