@@Knightfall182 Completely. These new series are horrible. Discovery, I wish it would discover a wormhole and disappear up its own arse and take the Picard series along with it.
This pilot was filmed at Desilu Studios, owned by Lucille Ball and Desi Arnez. Roddenberry worked three years getting it made, and it wasn't easy. The brass at Desilu, tired of delays, costs, and endless re-writes by Roddenberry, wanted to cut bait and cancel the project. Roddenberry appealed directly to Lucy, who overrode her studio management and personally ordered that the project be continued and the pilot made. It was and the rest is history. Thanks to Lucy.
Trek got made but also the demise of the studio. The show was very expensive to produce and forced Lucy to sell the studio to Paramount. Along with the studio, Lucy lost all rights to Trek and made no money off Trek in reruns, where it made more money and become more popular than when it was in first run. Lucy didn't have Desi's savvy at running a studio and should of put Trek into reruns after the second season in concurrent with the 3rd season, than it would have made the money to continue for a 4th season, and not have to sell the studio. Desi invented the rerun several years earlier with I Love Lucy, it was his idea to rerun the show in syndication. Also, Desi's idea to put the show on video tape, instead of kinescope and own the original tapes. CBS said, sure you can own the tapes, who would want them, after everyone has already seen the show, nobody will want to continue watching the show for years after. Desi was a smart guy! Desi told this story on Johnny Carson, not long before his death, I remember him calling it "Wideo Tape".
@@JENDALL714 Yes and No. I mean parallel to STAR TREK TOS DESILU did also THEUNTOUCHABLES nad MISSION IMPOSSIBLE also two " EXPENSIVE " hitshwos becoming cult.
Pike predicted the future: By the time The Wrath of Khan, the Enterprise was a training ship." Who flew that paper plane across my bridge ?." Pike's crew knew how egg him on. Jeffery Hunter was Captain Christopher Pike.
Practical effects ‘generally’ looks way better to me - I think the human brain just knows it’s real even if it’s a model CGI is like animation If that makes sense? The model work in Star Trek: The Motion Picture still stands up today - 40 years after it was created - to me it looks way better than New Trek
@@trekkiedave7910 oh it makes perfect sense. I was checking a documentary about supermarionation on Amazon Prime (about the people who did Thunderbirds and such shows) and they sort of explain that with miniatures you can trick the brain but they did have to scale for camera speed to make things look as if they are on real life scale like flying debris. I also started watching a 90s show done by the same producers called Space Precint and althought it does have some CGI shots at certain times, 90% is practical with composition and minitatures and such and I am still baffled by the realness of the visuals.
That’s Interesting! Some films that were well done at that time have an almost ‘ageless’ quality to them... Star Trek: The Motion Picture Empire Strikes Back Wrath of Khan Return of the Jedi The model work on those films were excessive and so well done - it really gives those films a ‘timeless’ quality
@@trekkiedave7910 yeah. At the end of the day I understand why the push for CGI today. If you can model it in the computer you can show it. And I guess depending on the quality you have less cost compared to models. Like, imagine a movie like Endgame done entierly practical. But CPU time is not cheap either and animations and such rely a lot on the skill of the animator. So in a sense a scaled model with the correct camera speed and such is basically cheating lmao. I guess modelwork can benefit now from new manufacturing technics and materials like 3D printing and such.
6 figures at conventions every year for about the last 30 years, and he tells anyone who will listen the same thing Dante told everybody in Clerks that he wasn't supposed to be there that day. I thought $60 for his autograph was kind of steep though, $100 to have him jump in at the end of a selfie video was a better deal.
Piloting a massive ship that travels at warp speed and creates it's own gravity while carrying a crew and supplies to the far reaches of the galaxy, but the captain receives his reports on paper and a clipboard invented in 1908.
Thank you very much, April 5, 2063, for uploading this interesting video of the original version of Captain Pike played by the late Mr Jeffrey Hunter so that we can see it again in the very near future. Please have a nice day today. ™
The Cage will always be my favorite episode, i love how they destroyed that rock in two but still fooled the crew in thinking their phaser didn't do a thing
Tom V also it looked more advanced because the computer screens were flat screen glass that had dynamic graphics. They did this by having different rear projectors. When it went to series Union rules said that each projector would have to have an operator and that was too expensive.
@@richardjohnson9543 As Matt Maze said, it's because The Cage actually had working displays, which were accomplished by having rear film projectors show moving images. But according to union rules, every one of those projectors had to have its own idividual camera projectionist manning it, paid union scale, and that was out of the show's budget. So the series got static pictures pasted on the bridge walls. The motion picture once again had rear-projected moving images, but unlike the series, the movie had the budget to cover that, so the bridge displays had more than just a few blinking lights. An interesting side-effect of that on the motion picture though was that the noise of those cameras got picked up on the set microphones, and couldn't be completely filtered out, so all the dialogue had to be rerecorded and looped in. Today, with the flat screen displays we have now, that wouldn't be a problem.
56 years after The Cage was made, it was finally picked up by CBSAA yesterday and now we will get to see Pike, Number One and Mr. Spock exploring Strange New Worlds.
@@manickreations Based on the Pike clips I've seen from Discovery, his character seems to be pretty likable, but for the rest of the recent Star Trek, Picard in particular, it's been a lot of style-over-substance with lots of contradictory and lazy writing techniques scattered throughout.
@@manickreations No. Discovery and Picard are universally considered abominations of the Star Trek name. The less Kurtzman and Abrams involvement, the better.
@@manickreations I have mixed feelings about Discovery but the best parts of the last season were definitely Anson Mount as Pike, Ethan Peck as Spock, and Rebecca Romijn as Number One. Basing a new series around them feels like a good decision to me.
This was Gene Roddenberry's purest vision of Star Trek: where a female Executive Officer could assume command of a Starship...where men and women wore similar uniforms, and where all peoples of Earth had equal standing. "The Cage" is an outstanding cinematic achievement that ranks with "The City on the Edge of Forever" and "Balance of Terror." It's no surprise that this Star Trek universe is being revisited
The Keeper's callous "reveal" concerning Number One and Yeoman Colt went way over the top, and seems almost more exploitative & intrusive than physical nudity. For me, it diminished the gender equality established at the "briefing session," where Number One received the military deference she was due as "Acting Captain." It's important to remember that white male chauvinism in 1960's Hollywood was, in many respects, even worse than it is today. A female in command of males might've been keenly resented by the powerful men at NBC. Gene Roddenberry would've certainly understood that, which might explain why he went with the "intimate reveal" scenario that also included the "catty" exchange between Vina and Number One. It's important to note the emotionally charged byplay between Pike and Number One when they were briefly discussing the "new Yeoman." Those few seconds seem to hint at how their relationship might've evolved. (Don't forget that "Yeoman Rand" was originally conceived as Kirk's steady love interest.) Pike's decision to leave Number One off the landing party hints at old-fashioned protectiveness where female crew members were concerned. Number One's subtle disappointment seems to confirm that, and it was correct for Pike to be sensitive to her feelings. His explanation that the "ship's most experienced officer" should back them up onboard made perfect military sense. In combat or any other risky situation, ship captains and their executive officers are always physically separated (so that one shell hit can't kill them both.) Of course, that practice was rarely seen in the Star Trek franchise
@@johnwagner4776 I find it interesting and something I wish we could explorer more as, looking at some of Mr. Roddenberry's earlier works, like the 1950's series "Highway Patrol" with Broderick Crawford, there were also strong female characters and leads. I was pleasantly surprised considering the portrayal of women in the 1950's and 60's as either sex-objects or wives, pre-womens lib!
Another thing I like is how this shows the XO can be any position on the bridge, not just the chief science officer. Kinda wish they kept that concept into TNG instead of making Riker just the XO. So many times he seemed to be just sitting doing nothing and being Picard's echo chamber.
I enjoyed TOS, but I really think that the pilot episode was far superior in style, dialogue, and form than the rest of the series. Whatever shortcomings that existed could have been easily ironed out. It wasn't wacky- it was serious and heart-felt science fiction with appropriate levels of comic relief.
Completely agree, the network execs apparently thought the show was too cerebral and they didn't like an alien on the bridge or a woman as a command level equal. I too really like TOS but many elements of The Cage are better than what we got from 67-69.
The only shortcoming I see from this pilot is it’s lack of cast diversity, apart from that it’s definitely superior in style, just look at the outfits and the bridge, it looks way better.
From a clipboard with paper forms to a computer tablet! Ahh, the things we take for granted now! A year or two later, when Scotty used a Tricorder to find a 'plasma conduit' behind a wall where I said at about 16: "B S!", to me purchasing a tool in the early 2000's that could find a broken wire in a trucks wiring harness. Yeah, I ate my words!
What I really like about the ending here is that Pike almost seems like he wants to be chill and laugh off the whole "Eve" thing, particularly when Tyler questions him about it, but his professionalism and distance from most of the crew doesn't allow him to express it other than by making a quiet "dirty old men" comment to the Doctor - who just chuckles and pats him on the shoulder as though he's a close Uncle. Boyce knows there's more to Pike than he shows his subordinates, and that keeping his distance is a personal struggle. Look at the way he interacts with both "Number One" [is her name "Una" in the Cage too?] and Yeoman Colt on Talos and in the transporter room, as opposed to the way he's standoffish with Number One and entirely dismissive of Colt on the bridge... That's not because he's a misogynistic jerk, it's because he not only has to keep separate from the crew but that he can't be seen as being "easy" on the female members of the crew; Jeff Hunter was an attractive man, and while both fine actresses, let's not pretend both Laurel and Majel weren't hired because they didn't bring pretty faces to the game. You saw that there were couples on the ship [note the scene where Pike is walking to his quarters]... Number One may rival Pike in stoic attention to duty, but she was thinking what Colt had the courage to ask. Pike, like Janeway in her time, knew that a Captain can't have romantic attachments among the crew, and that even the appearance of such would cause him problems.
Absolutely correct, the captain has to keep his social distance from all his colleagues and underlings, otherwise he could be accused of favoritism or accused of running "an old boy's network" ...
I always really liked Yeoman Colt. Super professional Starfleet officer, with interesting character potential. I'm one of the few people who was really disappointed they dumped Laurel Goodwin and went with Grace Lee Whitney instead. I'd like to think Ensign Tilly is Colt's spiritual successor. Trivia: Goodwin is the one who gave us Kirk's pointed sideburns. She'd designed them for Spock, but the studio put them on Kirk instead. She was as angry about that as she was at being dumped from the show. She's also the last actor who had a speaking role on the pilot episode who is still alive today. The rest are all gone. =[
@@mem1701movies Rand someone how later became a Commander under Captain Sulu, even though several years prior she killed two people using the transporter.
For those familiar with TOS’ two-parter _The Menagerie_ this isn’t exactly from that, this is how the original pilot _The Cage_ was to be shown. Because the two part episode was reworked around Capt Pike, Vena was not shown to have been given an illusion of Pike at the end. This made his return to Talos IV to join her more significant..
Having only seen The Menagerie for years, I never understood the lines: "You'll give her back her illusion of beauty - and more" but when I saw The Cage, I finally understood the "and more" part.
I believe those are television view screens, actually. I believe they were either modeled upon, or actual TV devices that were created for ATT videophone prototypes for a system demo'd in the 1960s.
This really was such a good episode. The Talosians were desperate to save themselves from extinction, so they convinced themselves temporarily that they could do a small wrong (capturing and holding a handful of humans) in the service of a greater right (reviving their planet). But, when Pike offered them open cooperation, they refused. They were not classic villains. They were not willing to risk the true evil of destroying another civilization, even if it might save their own.
Well said. This is basically an Outer Limits story set with Forbidden Planet style space sailors. In Outer Limits typically the alien is misunderstood and the threat is from man's own fallacies. They would do a similar strategy with WNMHGB. A flawed man given too much power, too quickly, becomes a tyrant and his id becomes genocidal.
Mike calano when they decided to try another pilot, he said no, so they got Shatner. Sadly, Hunter was badly injured making a movie and died a few years later. A different actor played him in The Menagerie-all he had to do was move his eyes. I think Hunter would’ve played the part more seriously than Shatner.
Hand Solo not true. They wanted him but his wife was very demanding and thought he was too good for TV. They met her demands and she kept asking for more and they finally didn’t want to deal with her anymore.
I often wonder how things might have gone had this version of the show been commissioned, glad we got Kirk though, good as he was Pike just wasn’t as engaging to watch.
Something to remember is this was only made to sell the series. If The Cage had greenlit Star Trek, it would have been polished more before releasing to the networks as Where No Man Has Gone Before had been.
I heard Nimoy talk about that once. Hunter chose to play Captain Pike "quiet", and you can't have both leads play it that way-otherwise you end up with an Ingmar Bergman film. When they recast and Shatner took over, playing "quiet" isn't his style, so that allowed Nimoy to become the quiet one. If you think about TNG, Picard is the quiet one, and that allows Riker to be much "bigger", personality-wise.
The shouty Spock is finally addressed in the Trek short with Number 1 and Spock, she tells him he doesn't need to shout! It's implied that that he used to shout a lot.
With a few tweaks and updates, this design would've been fine for modern TV standards instead of redesigning the whole thing from the ground up. If anything, this Enterprise looks better in some ways than the TOS version
I'm glad they took that loud humming screeching transport sound away lol. I like the bridge better in this pilot. The Enterprise has a bore bowl curved shape of the buttom of the sausser section on the model they used in this one.
It was rough around the edges, but some people saw the potential in the pilot. Roddenberry basically formed Star Trek by it, like conception in the womb. 2 or 3 years to make, if I remember right.
if jm colt was ever in snw she would likely be played by bonnie wright, perdita weeks, karen gillan or eleanor tomlinson or failing that danielle panabaker
Before 2001 Space Odyssey, Star Trek and the Forbidden Planet are the only examples I can think of that had a practical looking bridge and crew in a sci fi setting.
@trwent Julie Cobb who was the daughter of Lee J Cobb was the brunette that was on the planet where they encountered the Kelvin's and was turned into a lump that looked like powdered detergent with a octagon shape, she was crushed to death episode By Any Other Name
Thought I’d take a trip down memory lane since paramount + has all the Star Trek movies ever made. But, I can’t find the first episodes where Captain Kirk plays in it.
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Peter L I had some that kind of looked like these and TMP. My mom told me they were official. She lied. I cut an insignia out of aluminum foil and taped on them
I actually thought Pike's Enterprise was cooler than Kirks. Loved the metallic interiors and the sound effects, particularly the transporter sound like lots of power is needed to run the ship.
I aint going to lie, this mere low quality pilot might of set a course for humanity to achieve this for real, by inspiring so many engineers and future ones too.
Ah, 'the Good OLD, Bad Old' 60s!, with all the males looking like JFK. They don't make 'em like that anymore! (-Thank Christ!). I was ½ expecting Jack Lord to round the corner any tick of the clock, take Control of the Conn, and say - "Engage Dano"-! 😊
When you see this pilot. Its easy to understand why they waited till 1988 to release it. Its so much better than the actual series. This vs the actual series, and even the remake of this story, are two completely different styles. Even though spock is kept for the series, its counter opposites. This episode will forever be the greatest star trek episode ever made.
Had the characters been allowed to develope, the relationships would've turned out like ST:TNG. Especially the relationship between Pike and Number One...which would've been similar to the one displayed by Sheridan and Ivanova on B5.
Interesting how all following televised works ignore this ending. Sure, they use it in Menagerie for the vision of Pike living happily with her. But still.
Over 50 years later, the Pike adventures continue.
Just with less talented writing.
@@Knightfall182 Completely. These new series are horrible. Discovery, I wish it would discover a wormhole and disappear up its own arse and take the Picard series along with it.
The Talons were all played by women. They used an air bulb in their hand to pulse the brain arteries...lol
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Leonard Nimoy and Majel Barrett-Rodenberry, right there from the very beginning. The Star Trek Universe misses you both tremendously!
This pilot was filmed at Desilu Studios, owned by Lucille Ball and Desi Arnez. Roddenberry worked three years getting it made, and it wasn't easy. The brass at Desilu, tired of delays, costs, and endless re-writes by Roddenberry, wanted to cut bait and cancel the project. Roddenberry appealed directly to Lucy, who overrode her studio management and personally ordered that the project be continued and the pilot made. It was and the rest is history. Thanks to Lucy.
And that's why We 💘 Lucy .
That my favorite drug
Trek got made but also the demise of the studio. The show was very expensive to produce and forced Lucy to sell the studio to Paramount. Along with the studio, Lucy lost all rights to Trek and made no money off Trek in reruns, where it made more money and become more popular than when it was in first run. Lucy didn't have Desi's savvy at running a studio and should of put Trek into reruns after the second season in concurrent with the 3rd season, than it would have made the money to continue for a 4th season, and not have to sell the studio. Desi invented the rerun several years earlier with I Love Lucy, it was his idea to rerun the show in syndication. Also, Desi's idea to put the show on video tape, instead of kinescope and own the original tapes. CBS said, sure you can own the tapes, who would want them, after everyone has already seen the show, nobody will want to continue watching the show for years after. Desi was a smart guy! Desi told this story on Johnny Carson, not long before his death, I remember him calling it "Wideo Tape".
@@JENDALL714 Yes and No. I mean parallel to STAR TREK TOS DESILU did also THEUNTOUCHABLES nad MISSION IMPOSSIBLE also two " EXPENSIVE " hitshwos becoming cult.
this would make an amazing story. Trek Loves Lucy
Bridge to engineering, were getting that weird music up here again, happens everytime we go to warp.
hahahahahahahahaha!!!!!
"What are we running here a cadet ship Number One? Are we ready or not!" haha. Captain Pike is awesome.
The new Pike wouldn't be so harsh with a woman 😄
Pike predicted the future: By the time The Wrath of Khan, the Enterprise was a training ship." Who flew that paper plane across my bridge ?."
Pike's crew knew how egg him on.
Jeffery Hunter was Captain Christopher Pike.
In this episode he got his mojo back. In Strange New Worlds, Pike lightens up a bit and enjoys his work again.
The old special effects. A simple charm.
darkcoeficient yeah... the “updated” ones look bad... too dark...cartoony
Practical effects ‘generally’ looks way better to me - I think the human brain just knows it’s real even if it’s a model
CGI is like animation
If that makes sense?
The model work in Star Trek: The Motion Picture still stands up today - 40 years after it was created - to me it looks way better than New Trek
@@trekkiedave7910 oh it makes perfect sense.
I was checking a documentary about supermarionation on Amazon Prime (about the people who did Thunderbirds and such shows) and they sort of explain that with miniatures you can trick the brain but they did have to scale for camera speed to make things look as if they are on real life scale like flying debris.
I also started watching a 90s show done by the same producers called Space Precint and althought it does have some CGI shots at certain times, 90% is practical with composition and minitatures and such and I am still baffled by the realness of the visuals.
That’s Interesting!
Some films that were well done at that time have an almost ‘ageless’ quality to them...
Star Trek: The Motion Picture
Empire Strikes Back
Wrath of Khan
Return of the Jedi
The model work on those films were excessive and so well done - it really gives those films a ‘timeless’ quality
@@trekkiedave7910 yeah.
At the end of the day I understand why the push for CGI today. If you can model it in the computer you can show it. And I guess depending on the quality you have less cost compared to models. Like, imagine a movie like Endgame done entierly practical.
But CPU time is not cheap either and animations and such rely a lot on the skill of the animator. So in a sense a scaled model with the correct camera speed and such is basically cheating lmao.
I guess modelwork can benefit now from new manufacturing technics and materials like 3D printing and such.
2:36 that bloke who runs into shot at the last second just so he’s in the show!
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He got $50 for that 😁
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6 figures at conventions every year for about the last 30 years, and he tells anyone who will listen the same thing Dante told everybody in Clerks that he wasn't supposed to be there that day. I thought $60 for his autograph was kind of steep though, $100 to have him jump in at the end of a selfie video was a better deal.
Piloting a massive ship that travels at warp speed and creates it's own gravity while carrying a crew and supplies to the far reaches of the galaxy, but the captain receives his reports on paper and a clipboard invented in 1908.
The iPad was just too crazy to imagine. Although Kubrick only missed it by 10 years.
It’s not a ship…it’s a vehicle!!!
Back to today: " Engage". With much the same easy banter as today's crew.
Nah, they have gravity plating, but that's nerd nitpicking.
Then there's those uniform tops in the 23 Rd century with mock turtleneck style from the 1960 s
Thank you very much, April 5, 2063, for uploading this interesting video of the original version of Captain Pike played by the late Mr Jeffrey Hunter so that we can see it again in the very near future.
Please have a nice day today. ™
The Cage will always be my favorite episode, i love how they destroyed that rock in two but still fooled the crew in thinking their phaser didn't do a thing
What if they didn't leave Talos IV they only think they did?
And, Spock smiled when CPT Pike came back to the ship.
The "Vulcanian" was more emotional back then
And also in the scene with the landing party when he examined the plant with blue leaves.
It's been a long time since I've seen this, but the Captain using a clipboard with paper really cracks me up now.
Yeah. They hadn’t quite got a grasp on the future yet.
I always liked the way the bridge looked in this pilot.
Tom V it looked more advanced than the production one. NBC ordered them to paint the sets vivid colors to sell more color TVs because RCA owned NBC.
Tom V also it looked more advanced because the computer screens were flat screen glass that had dynamic graphics. They did this by having different rear projectors. When it went to series Union rules said that each projector would have to have an operator and that was too expensive.
Indeed.
It's funny how the Cage Enterprise looked closer to TMP than the TOS version
@@richardjohnson9543 As Matt Maze said, it's because The Cage actually had working displays, which were accomplished by having rear film projectors show moving images. But according to union rules, every one of those projectors had to have its own idividual camera projectionist manning it, paid union scale, and that was out of the show's budget. So the series got static pictures pasted on the bridge walls. The motion picture once again had rear-projected moving images, but unlike the series, the movie had the budget to cover that, so the bridge displays had more than just a few blinking lights. An interesting side-effect of that on the motion picture though was that the noise of those cameras got picked up on the set microphones, and couldn't be completely filtered out, so all the dialogue had to be rerecorded and looped in. Today, with the flat screen displays we have now, that wouldn't be a problem.
56 years after The Cage was made, it was finally picked up by CBSAA yesterday and now we will get to see Pike, Number One and Mr. Spock exploring Strange New Worlds.
yeah, but it's being made by the guys who made Discovery and Picard, so I wouldn't get your hopes.
@@TechnologicallyTechnical And both were awesome!!!! Especially Capt Pike on discovery, but haters gonna hate....
@@manickreations Based on the Pike clips I've seen from Discovery, his character seems to be pretty likable, but for the rest of the recent Star Trek, Picard in particular, it's been a lot of style-over-substance with lots of contradictory and lazy writing techniques scattered throughout.
@@manickreations No. Discovery and Picard are universally considered abominations of the Star Trek name. The less Kurtzman and Abrams involvement, the better.
@@manickreations I have mixed feelings about Discovery but the best parts of the last season were definitely Anson Mount as Pike, Ethan Peck as Spock, and Rebecca Romijn as Number One. Basing a new series around them feels like a good decision to me.
This was Gene Roddenberry's purest vision of Star Trek: where a female Executive Officer could assume command of a Starship...where men and women wore similar uniforms, and where all peoples of Earth had equal standing.
"The Cage" is an outstanding cinematic achievement that ranks with "The City on the Edge of Forever" and "Balance of Terror." It's no surprise that this Star Trek universe is being revisited
True, but don't forget that it's also where the 2 female officers apparently fantasized about having their way with the captain.
The Keeper's callous "reveal" concerning Number One and Yeoman Colt went way over the top, and seems almost more exploitative & intrusive than physical nudity. For me, it diminished the gender equality established at the "briefing session," where Number One received the military deference she was due as "Acting Captain."
It's important to remember that white male chauvinism in 1960's Hollywood was, in many respects, even worse than it is today. A female in command of males might've been keenly resented by the powerful men at NBC. Gene Roddenberry would've certainly understood that, which might explain why he went with the "intimate reveal" scenario that also included the "catty" exchange between Vina and Number One.
It's important to note the emotionally charged byplay between Pike and Number One when they were briefly discussing the "new Yeoman." Those few seconds seem to hint at how their relationship might've evolved. (Don't forget that "Yeoman Rand" was originally conceived as Kirk's steady love interest.)
Pike's decision to leave Number One off the landing party hints at old-fashioned protectiveness where female crew members were concerned. Number One's subtle disappointment seems to confirm that, and it was correct for Pike to be sensitive to her feelings.
His explanation that the "ship's most experienced officer" should back them up onboard made perfect military sense. In combat or any other risky situation, ship captains and their executive officers are always physically separated (so that one shell hit can't kill them both.) Of course, that practice was rarely seen in the Star Trek franchise
Yeah, but then there was that one episode in season 3 where it was said that women couldn't be Starfleet captains.
@@johnwagner4776 I find it interesting and something I wish we could explorer more as, looking at some of Mr. Roddenberry's earlier works, like the 1950's series "Highway Patrol" with Broderick Crawford, there were also strong female characters and leads. I was pleasantly surprised considering the portrayal of women in the 1950's and 60's as either sex-objects or wives, pre-womens lib!
can that feminist garbage this is star trek
The pilot had it all from the beginning: "Engage" and Majel Barrett in charge of the ship.
Another thing I like is how this shows the XO can be any position on the bridge, not just the chief science officer. Kinda wish they kept that concept into TNG instead of making Riker just the XO. So many times he seemed to be just sitting doing nothing and being Picard's echo chamber.
I love how "the computer voice from TNG" is already here in the first star trek episode ever.
In the end, the computer has control of the ship, so Majel Barrett got a promotion from Number 1 to becoming the voice of the computer !!
The guy who played the ship's doctor in this was the Martian in the Twilight Zone episode, "Will the Real Martian Please Stand Up?"
John Hoyt 👍
I enjoyed TOS, but I really think that the pilot episode was far superior in style, dialogue, and form than the rest of the series. Whatever shortcomings that existed could have been easily ironed out. It wasn't wacky- it was serious and heart-felt science fiction with appropriate levels of comic relief.
I agree. 🙂
Hunter’s wife ruined it for him
Completely agree, the network execs apparently thought the show was too cerebral and they didn't like an alien on the bridge or a woman as a command level equal. I too really like TOS but many elements of The Cage are better than what we got from 67-69.
They could not put that pilot on Tv at that time if people figured out what it was really about it would have been banned.
The only shortcoming I see from this pilot is it’s lack of cast diversity, apart from that it’s definitely superior in style, just look at the outfits and the bridge, it looks way better.
From a clipboard with paper forms to a computer tablet! Ahh, the things we take for granted now! A year or two later, when Scotty used a Tricorder to find a 'plasma conduit' behind a wall where I said at about 16: "B S!", to me purchasing a tool in the early 2000's that could find a broken wire in a trucks wiring harness. Yeah, I ate my words!
Pike was the first to use "engage" tag.
Take that, Picard!!
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Kirk said it too.
@@charliedelacruz9091 Pike predates Kirk.
"I told you. Do not engage." Worf, Picard Season 3.
What I really like about the ending here is that Pike almost seems like he wants to be chill and laugh off the whole "Eve" thing, particularly when Tyler questions him about it, but his professionalism and distance from most of the crew doesn't allow him to express it other than by making a quiet "dirty old men" comment to the Doctor - who just chuckles and pats him on the shoulder as though he's a close Uncle. Boyce knows there's more to Pike than he shows his subordinates, and that keeping his distance is a personal struggle. Look at the way he interacts with both "Number One" [is her name "Una" in the Cage too?] and Yeoman Colt on Talos and in the transporter room, as opposed to the way he's standoffish with Number One and entirely dismissive of Colt on the bridge... That's not because he's a misogynistic jerk, it's because he not only has to keep separate from the crew but that he can't be seen as being "easy" on the female members of the crew; Jeff Hunter was an attractive man, and while both fine actresses, let's not pretend both Laurel and Majel weren't hired because they didn't bring pretty faces to the game. You saw that there were couples on the ship [note the scene where Pike is walking to his quarters]... Number One may rival Pike in stoic attention to duty, but she was thinking what Colt had the courage to ask. Pike, like Janeway in her time, knew that a Captain can't have romantic attachments among the crew, and that even the appearance of such would cause him problems.
Kirk solved that by shacking up with every alien girl to come along. 😂
@@keirfarnum6811 Lol! I can't argue with that. However, his main "female to worry about was the Enterprise."
Absolutely correct, the captain has to keep his social distance from all his colleagues and underlings, otherwise he could be accused of favoritism or accused of running "an old boy's network" ...
The way he looks at himself at 19 seconds, like "Yeah, I am so going to wreck this chick in ways you can only imagine!"
I wish we had gotten a second "Cage-y' episode with this Pike with these sounds, sets, colors, etc....
Me too.
“Eve as in Adam?”
“As in all ships’ doctors are dirty old men.” 😎
I always really liked Yeoman Colt. Super professional Starfleet officer, with interesting character potential. I'm one of the few people who was really disappointed they dumped Laurel Goodwin and went with Grace Lee Whitney instead. I'd like to think Ensign Tilly is Colt's spiritual successor.
Trivia: Goodwin is the one who gave us Kirk's pointed sideburns. She'd designed them for Spock, but the studio put them on Kirk instead. She was as angry about that as she was at being dumped from the show. She's also the last actor who had a speaking role on the pilot episode who is still alive today. The rest are all gone. =[
Josh Fredman Rand was a skank
@@mem1701movies Rand someone how later became a Commander under Captain Sulu, even though several years prior she killed two people using the transporter.
@@JENDALL714 that wasn’t her fault. Starfleet (and Kirk) rushed the Enterprise into service when it was still undergoing upgrades in dry-dock.
@@mem1701movies Why do you say that Rand was a skank?
@@joerogers540 Because he can’t get laid.
Excellent score by Alexander Courage.
It's nice to see this original pilot and what became of it with The Menagerie 2 part episode that effectively kicked the program into high gear.
I like how he's just reading the paper as the ship goes to warp...
I love it❤ Thank You for posting this!
You're welcome.
My goodness that red-headed girl is cute as hell. So many good looking people on that flight deck!
Set little red hair yeoman! I believe the only and said she had unusually strong female drives😂
For those familiar with TOS’ two-parter _The Menagerie_ this isn’t exactly from that, this is how the original pilot _The Cage_ was to be shown.
Because the two part episode was reworked around Capt Pike, Vena was not shown to have been given an illusion of Pike at the end. This made his return to Talos IV to join her more significant..
Wow the real star trek, rest in peace Jeffrey Hunter ❤️
Majel Barrett was the ORIGINAL “ Number One!” Take that Jonathan Frakes!
My my... First time ever I see this!
Thanks lots
I wish this had been made.
Now it will be.
Having only seen The Menagerie for years, I never understood the lines: "You'll give her back her illusion of beauty - and more" but when I saw The Cage, I finally understood the "and more" part.
This is my favorite version of the familiar theme music
The soundtrack for this episode was released some years ago, it is always a delight to hear.
This episode never grows old. Good quality all round.
Yeoman Colt- "Unusually strong female drives." -The Keeeper
You could tell she lusted after Captain Pike. She probably had to change her panties about four times a day!!
She wanted Pike. She probably had wet dreams about him every night.
Those lamps in the transporter room and bridge, they make a come back in JJ Abrams Star Trek.
I believe those are television view screens, actually. I believe they were either modeled upon, or actual TV devices that were created for ATT videophone prototypes for a system demo'd in the 1960s.
This really was such a good episode. The Talosians were desperate to save themselves from extinction, so they convinced themselves temporarily that they could do a small wrong (capturing and holding a handful of humans) in the service of a greater right (reviving their planet). But, when Pike offered them open cooperation, they refused. They were not classic villains. They were not willing to risk the true evil of destroying another civilization, even if it might save their own.
Well said.
This is basically an Outer Limits story set with Forbidden Planet style space sailors. In Outer Limits typically the alien is misunderstood and the threat is from man's own fallacies.
They would do a similar strategy with WNMHGB. A flawed man given too much power, too quickly, becomes a tyrant and his id becomes genocidal.
How would Star trek have been shaped if they had gone with Captain Christopher Pike instead of Captain Kirk
And we saw more preview of his leadership in S2 of 'Discovery.' Let's hope the proposed 'Pike' series will come into fruition soon!!
Mike calano when they decided to try another pilot, he said no, so they got Shatner. Sadly, Hunter was badly injured making a movie and died a few years later. A different actor played him in The Menagerie-all he had to do was move his eyes. I think Hunter would’ve played the part more seriously than Shatner.
The answer is cancelled. The execs hated his performance and said it had to be recast for a 2nd pilot.
Hand Solo not true. They wanted him but his wife was very demanding and thought he was too good for TV. They met her demands and she kept asking for more and they finally didn’t want to deal with her anymore.
I talked to his son and he said his dad regretted not being in it.
If I may be so bold, Majel Barrett was a knockout Number One!
You know, number one's real name is not number one, it's Una Chin Riley
@@alexlascu2136 Actually, it's Christine Chappell!
I often wonder how things might have gone had this version of the show been commissioned, glad we got Kirk though, good as he was Pike just wasn’t as engaging to watch.
Agreed, commanding Stern presence but wooden
Never really noticed before how noisy the actors footsteps where.
Merlin Bad sound mixing
"Hold on a minute!"
PLONK PLONK PLONK PLONK
Something to remember is this was only made to sell the series. If The Cage had greenlit Star Trek, it would have been polished more before releasing to the networks as Where No Man Has Gone Before had been.
Were.
Still a fantastic looking ship!
Love the Enterprise!
Same goes for the NX-01 Enterprise. She's a tough little ship like the USS Defiant.
“Little??” - Worf
“Tough little ship...” -Riker
“Little.??” -Worf
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Spoke actually grinned in this one.
I heard Nimoy talk about that once. Hunter chose to play Captain Pike "quiet", and you can't have both leads play it that way-otherwise you end up with an Ingmar Bergman film. When they recast and Shatner took over, playing "quiet" isn't his style, so that allowed Nimoy to become the quiet one.
If you think about TNG, Picard is the quiet one, and that allows Riker to be much "bigger", personality-wise.
Nimoy hadn't gotten the character down yet. In "Where No Man Has Gone Before" Nimoy was still ironing things out.
Spoke?
This is extremely surreal to watch as a fan who's first star trek was the Next Generation. Just wow
I can see where Anson Mount is the best choice to play Cpt. Pike. Even his hair style matches.
Anson Mount certainly has much more charisma than Jeffrey Hunter.
Total boss move by #1 @1:30 handing that random guy her away gear as she walks onto the bridge
At least there was no shouty Spock in this clip!
The shouty Spock is finally addressed in the Trek short with Number 1 and Spock, she tells him he doesn't need to shout! It's implied that that he used to shout a lot.
With a few tweaks and updates, this design would've been fine for modern TV standards instead of redesigning the whole thing from the ground up. If anything, this Enterprise looks better in some ways than the TOS version
And so begins Star Trek: Strange New Worlds.
I'm glad they took that loud humming screeching transport sound away lol. I like the bridge better in this pilot. The Enterprise has a bore bowl curved shape of the buttom of the sausser section on the model they used in this one.
And as always, Susan Oliver was smokin'.
I would have picked the redhead to be Eve .... she's so cute !!!!
She is a babe!!
"Make revolutions for 20 knots and engage the propellers."
THE SUBTITLES ARE BLOODY HILARIOUS
2:02 Number One seems rather defensive about it XD
Can't wait for Strange New Worlds!!!
It was rough around the edges, but some people saw the potential in the pilot. Roddenberry basically formed Star Trek by it, like conception in the womb. 2 or 3 years to make, if I remember right.
if jm colt was ever in snw she would likely be played by bonnie wright, perdita weeks, karen gillan or eleanor tomlinson or failing that danielle panabaker
Wait she play Bonnie wright?
I love this more than "Hit it". For me it is and always will be "Engage". This is also the only Christopher Pike for me!
The woman at 2:00 was in an Elvis Presley movie. I think it was Girls,Girls,Girls.
Laurel Goodwin. And despite the title, it was actually one of the tamer Elvis movies.
Before 2001 Space Odyssey, Star Trek and the Forbidden Planet are the only examples I can think of that had a practical looking bridge and crew in a sci fi setting.
RIP Laurel Goodwin she was the smarter of both female yoemen's of the Star Trek Franchise
There were more than two.
@trwent Julie Cobb who was the daughter of Lee J Cobb was the brunette that was on the planet where they encountered the Kelvin's and was turned into a lump that looked like powdered detergent with a octagon shape, she was crushed to death episode By Any Other Name
I never get tired to see them,
Thought I’d take a trip down memory lane since paramount + has all the Star Trek movies ever made. But, I can’t find the first episodes where Captain Kirk plays in it.
This segment of the original version of "Star Trek" brings back plenty of fond memories of when I saw it when I was much younger and boy did I enjoy seeing it very much.
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Get lost, cheeseperson!
I had pajamas that looked like those uniforms.
Peter L I had some that kind of looked like these and TMP. My mom told me they were official. She lied. I cut an insignia out of aluminum foil and taped on them
THIS IS BY FAR THE BEST TRANSPORTER EFFECT ! STAR TREK THE CAGE .
I always liked the transporter effect. , and sounds from this episode.
Am I the only one who actually prefers the original color scheme of the Enterprise bridge?
it would be interesting to redo the color scheme of tos to match the pilot
Trivia : The bridge on TMP , 1979 was the same color grey / black as the bridge used in this pilot. Note both had black bridge hand railing.
Ustrekue cant wait for next movie nimoy probly writing as i type
Give us a series about Yeoman Colt traveling to the different periods of Trek's timeline
Let this serve as a reminder that spock served on the enterprise longer than kirk
Yeah, Menagerie made that quite clear.
HUNTER, PIKE GOT ENGAGED TO THAT OLD DOCTOR SCOTTY AND THAT KILLED EM BOTH...😢😢😢😂😂😂😂
Majel barret looked gorgeous as a brunette very sexy..... they should have let her stay as 2nd in command. ..
More raven than brunette.
I actually thought Pike's Enterprise was cooler than Kirks. Loved the metallic interiors and the sound effects, particularly the transporter sound like lots of power is needed to run the ship.
I aint going to lie, this mere low quality pilot might of set a course for humanity to achieve this for real, by inspiring so many engineers and future ones too.
Under Capt. Pike, Majel Barett's role of Number One is like Capt. Kirk's first officer Spock and Spock is like Uhura.
LOL Number One wasn't happy with the yeoman!
She knew that Colt would have been Eve!!
Plot twist: The real Captain Pike went with Vina and the buttheads. The one that beamed up to the Enterprise was an illusion.
They got rid of the clipboard and paper after this one... Lol... 😂
"Sir, I was wondering. Just curious. We're in the future and we're still using paper for reports?"
It looks like Jeff made it to space..
And next William Shatner's going on the next flight!!!
Special guest star Jeff bezos
KingDT2007 the only thing SOUTH PARK didn’t get right is his thick round eyebrows
Hahaha good one🤣🤣
There were that many and they all fell down. 10/10. Who am I ? Nobody
F*ck, it still works. Thrilling.
Eternal!
When the Enterprise was a military patrol ship
To boldly go
Spock didn't angrily flip a table, don't buy it.
How can we know he actually has emotions if he doesn't express them in a really obvious way??
Tolisians power of illusion was awesome.
Your kind would learn our power of illusion and destroy itself.
Ah, 'the Good OLD, Bad Old' 60s!, with all the males looking like JFK. They don't make 'em like that anymore! (-Thank Christ!).
I was ½ expecting Jack Lord to round the corner any tick of the clock, take Control of the Conn, and say - "Engage Dano"-! 😊
Jack Lord actually was considered for the role of the captain of the Enterprise back in the 60s.
Laurel Goodwin ♥️ as Yeoman Colt, who tends to get in Captain Pike’s way!
He probably liked bouncing off those big t**s of hers!
When you see this pilot. Its easy to understand why they waited till 1988 to release it. Its so much better than the actual series. This vs the actual series, and even the remake of this story, are two completely different styles. Even though spock is kept for the series, its counter opposites. This episode will forever be the greatest star trek episode ever made.
Not “so much better,” just different.
Had the characters been allowed to develope, the relationships would've turned out like ST:TNG. Especially the relationship between Pike and Number One...which would've been similar to the one displayed by Sheridan and Ivanova on B5.
Spock looks like he just rolled out of bed.
Interesting how all following televised works ignore this ending. Sure, they use it in Menagerie for the vision of Pike living happily with her. But still.
Side note, in the novels. They had a son, somehow.
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