Great Video. Thanks. I recall reading somewhere that in the closing days of the war the BF-110 was the aircraft most in demand by the Luftwaffe. Quite a change from the post battle of britain days where it was generally villified.
as a long-time speaker of pfälzer deutsch myself, i admit that i smiled at your pronunciation...but i also totally disagree with all the comments criticizing you for this! here we have a video that isn't about the german language, and unless you start posting on youtube.de or pretending that this is a language class, then i don't think you should worry too much :) you can certainly imitate google translate's imitation german until you're blue in the face, but the fact will always remain that deutsche sprache schwere sprache - don't let the haters bother you and keep doing what you do (talking about planes)...just my opinion and you've got a new subscriber
Very cool and very nicely well done and executed in every detail way shape and form provided on and about everything of the BF110 and it's sister aircraft the 210 & 410's indeed!,👌.
The first Luftwaffe night fighter pilot to shoot down 100 kills at night was Helmut Lent. He ranks as #2 of on the list of highest scoring Luftwaffe night fighter aces, with 102 night kills and 8 day kills. He was killed in a flying accident in October of 1944.Also, that photograph where Schnaufer is being decorated, the blond gentleman next to him is Erich Hartman. They were both there to receive the Oakleaves and Swords to the Knight's Cross.
07:32 - "...Hans Joachim Goering..." never heard of him but the picture is Hans Joachim Marseille, top scoring Jagdwaffe ace in North Africa. Otherwise a fairly detailed, well presented video, thanks. Hoping to meet the Bf-110 in person at the RAF Museum next month.
The night fighter approach to target using ground radar, then onboard radar and finally mk1 eyeball sounds exactly the same as the British developed with the Bristol Beaufighter (possibly the closest equivalent the British had to the BF110). Some British pilots used night binoculars (large lenses to gather light but low magnification) to help visually pick up the target.
That was pretty common to every early radar set, until they got fine enough gun-laying radar and even then they would go to visual engagement when possible. The Germans never really mastered it.
@@obsidianjane4413 It wrong to imagine Beaufighter, Mosquito and Black Widow flying around with blind fire gun laying radar. When such things came in it was only in 1945 and then on USN Fighters and RAF Bomber Command gun laying radar (village in) rather than RAF and USAAF fighters. The Germajns had passable blind fire airborne radar as early as 1942 called "Pauke" but did not deploy for a number of reasons. More on that latter. -Unfortunately the post war period was full of pop histories (no peer reviewed ones) telling use how smart they were in outfoxing the Germans technically. Including such things as "The Germans didn't have radar" (now thankfully gone) to Germans didn't have blind fire radar. -You can find the actual truth in professional society papers such as IET and IEE and IEEE, BIOS,CIOS and FIAT and Geman language publications from Fritz Trenkle and Harry von Krogge (GEMA birthplace of German Sonar and Radar is available in English) and books such as "Blitz und Anker" . -German Blind fire for ground FLAK radar starts with Wurzburg. Several versions: 1 Wurzburg A. Early 1940 service. A traverse, elevation and range operator could locate a target to within +/-2degrees and 130m out to 32km. It was designed as a warning radar but was successful in directing search lights, would sometimes be successful in destroying a bomber at night in clouds in complete blind fire and could be used to guide and interception. 2 Wurzburg B was the same as Wurzburg A but added an infrared precision tracker. Never used as Wurzburg C was a better solution. 3 Wurzburg C February 1941. Added conical scan and now only needed 1 operator for elevation and traverse. Conical scan increased accuracy to 0.3 degrees. 4 Wurzburg D May 1941. Apart from Conical Scan improved range accuracy to 25m. Latter versions had 0.25 degrees bearing accuracy. Also added a computer that converted spherical coordinates to Cartesian for position, altitude range. 5 Wurzburg-Riesse June 1941 was a Wurzburg D with a power driven 7m dish. This increase accuracy to 0.15 degrees and range to over 70km. Hence with Wurzburg-Riesse and Wurzburg-D the Germans had blind fire capability. -Wurzburg remained the finest AAA/FLAK radar untill the American introduction of the 9cm microwave SCR-584 in late 1943 during the Salerno landing when the Germans jammed SCR-268. -Mannheim Fuse 64 German Radar was introduced in late 1943 about the same time as the SCR-584 using Wurzburg frequencies (slightly higher) and increased range accuracy to 6m with auto-lock for the range gate. Angular accuracy was increased to =/- 0.15 degrees by using electronic comparisons for the angular deviation returns. -So the Germans had ground based Blind fire radar. -The Lichtenstein 'stag aerials' type radars could be modified with a system called Pauke to give blind fire. These radars used 'lobe switching' where delays were inserted in each antenna to achive a left/right and up/down beam switching. By comparing the signal returns on an osciliscope the opperator could tell direction. Electronic comparison allowed enough accuracy for blind fire (proably 0.6 degrees at 200m or so). -The Germans had a airborne microwave radar FuG 240 and FuG 244 (only 10 in service). The 3cm version was adapted to blind fire both for the FLAK 2cm C38 and night fighters, (called renner)
The portside stabiliser is not merely a monument to Schnaufer and his success but to the men who lost their lives because of him. The war between the RAF and Luftwaffe was unusual for the degree of mutual respect which did not exist in ground forces, it was almost like medieval chivalry, but it didnt stop them from killing each other at any opportunity!
A bit of bullshit here. The Luftwaffe had a contingent of pilots who killed 'downed' pilots on their parachutes - they did this in Poland & continued the practise. All WWII German military services was polluted by a Nazi strand which disregarded the so-called rules of war.
@@worldofwarbirds Amazing that some of the Raf and Luftwaffe pilots became lifetime friends after the war even as in the case of Adolf Galland making Stanford tuck his sons godfather and going into depression when Tuck sadly passed ,
There was a lot of mutual respect between all of the British and German forces of all services that did not exist between any other nation. Except the SS of course.
Good work. Good collection of photos and paintings to illustration the history of Bf 110. Good narration as well. At 7:31, however, a wrong photo was shown. Photo of Hans-Joachim Marseille was shown who obviously is not Hans-Joachim Göring.
Ever since playing the computer game Their Finest Hour: The Battle of Britain I've had an odd interest in the bf-110 and the do-17. The BF 110 in the game was really cool because not only was it a fighter but it had a variant that could also carry bombs.
One of the things about those upward firing guns - is that the British had no belly guns to speak of - and mostly thought the damage they were taking from below - was from AA. Here - towards the end of the war - the American Day Fighters had cleared the Luftwaffe from the skies - so that to some degree - the British switched to Day Bombing as they never really developed an answer to the German Night Fighter Defenses. They would send their own night fighters but - they had no ground control to vector them in to where their own radars would pick up the German Night Fighters - whereas the German ground control radars could pick up the British Night Fighters. One thing the American P-61 Black Widows would do was to go hang out in the vicinity of the German Night Fighter's bases - and wait for one to show up to land - which was the same strategy used against the Me-262. The problem in both cases was AA placed around the bases to prevent people from doing that. .
Yes, I’ve always wondered why the Brits didn’t put turrets on their bellies, especially when that began to be THE place for the night fighters to hit them…
The Mosquito NF30 was doing this before the P-61 was in service. The Airfield AA defense generally didn't have searchlights so why would loitering around a German airfield with lights off be a problem for any night intruder? 🙂
The basic 110 with its 1200hp motors served from 1936 to near the end of the war. In that era of lightening speed technological evolution that's pretty astounding.
@@TomBartram-b1c Splitting hairs? little petty don't you think? You must have a boring life to be bothered about something so unimportant and not worth giving attention to because of a misspelling. 🙄
If he shot down 100 four engines bombers, then he took @ 700 Allied fliers out of the war. The majority were killed in their aircraft or the crash landing, some managed to bail out and the very few (a handful really) either evaded capture or escaped from POW camps. Generally speaking any Lancaster or Halifax bomber shot down by schrage music (slanted jazz music) was frequently hit in the port inner wing fuel tank which caused the aircraft to immediately spin down uncontrollably and hit the ground and explode. The spin generated g-forces that pinned the crews inside the aircraft and prevented escape. Possibly the only one who might escape would be the tail gunner if he was wearing a chest parachute at all times and managed to turn his power turret sideways and bail out backwards.
Some moree facts about: _ First group in Luftwaffee which claimed 500. kill, was II. ZG 76, the famous hallfish gruppe, equiped with Bf-110. That was before jagdgruppen with Bf-109 do it. _ according to Christer Bergstrom Bf-110 in Battle of Britainne was great airplane if units using it in right way. Zoom in and zoom out tactic was best suited for this machinne which was fast in dive and with heavy arnament _ In 1941-43 on eastern front, german destroyer gruops were using Bf-110 in so called kampfzeerstorer role: That is ground attack, and with succese, without coming of new Me-210 to replace it _ Me-210, succeesor never came. It was total disaster for Luftwaffe. _ succesfull usage of Bf-110 was also in recconosance role. It was good mid range Luftwaffen aufklarer _ wheen, only in 1943, came Me-410 it was too few and to late. Imo, Bf-110 is one of the greatest of ww2 with long and succesfull carrier in multi role.
The first model kit I built as a kid was a Fokker Triplane, and yes, she hung over my bed until the day I left for college. I fell in love with ww2 armor kits... but always took the time to build a Stuka or Thunderbolt, lol. Subscribed my friend. 👍🏽🇺🇸
Perusing around I see the "World of Warbirds" decided to check in and wow, well done ! Really enjoyed this episode.I grew up where we had a Naval Air Station. Willow Grove Naval Air Station, Horhsam PA .. so we had planes coming and going, had a huge parking lot to watch the planes take off and land..hosted one of the largest Air Shows on the East coast w/ the Blue Angels .. also had an 'outdoor' museum which desplayed the German ME 262 Swallow '2 seat trainer.. and the Sea Plane Arado Ar 196 IIRC.. among other planes, jets so I vecaome very fond of German WWII air planes.. eventually the AR was taken back by Germany, The ME was 'stolen' by those Marine jerks in FLA, after it was refurbished by us ..crummy restoration job as I the orginal livery was a "meandering" camouflage..change a bunch of marking etc.. I must have built 100 German aircraft .. all my allowance went to models.. So yeah, well done .. subscribed !!
That photo was not of Hans-Joachim Göring, but rather of Hans-Joachim Marseille 🙂. Nice video though 👍. Görings biggest mistake was perhaps to force the 110's to closely accompany his bombers instead of having them stacked up at altitude. With their centerline mounted devastating armament and high dive speed, they might have gobbled up quite a number of Hurricanes, especially those flown by inexperienced aircrew.
Bf-110s were also used against US bombers with the terrifying tactic of launching rocket salvos into formations from outside .50 range. I'm not sure how many bombers were killed by the rockets, but there wasn't much the bomber gunners could do. Of course, escort fighters brought this to a screeching halt.
Yes, I haven't seen any stats on how effective the formation-busting rockets actually were. I have read that generally many of the unguided rocket weapons were more dazzle than anything because aiming them was so difficult. But in the case of formation-busters, all you really need to do is freak out a few pilots who break formation and you've had your success.
@@worldofwarbirds Good Job. Something that has been neglected that’s starting to be addressed with a restoration on what will be the only airworthy example to fly since 1946 is the Hawker Typhoon, a beast of a plane, it’s roll as a fighter bomber as legendary, especially around D Day, the Falaise gap, the battle of the bulge etc, iterations went on to the Hawker Tempest, according to Winkle Brown the legendary test pilot was one of the finest piston fighters with a speed of 470mph. The Bristol Beaufighter was developed, had a similar multi role profile as the Me 110, was called The Whistling Death by the Japanese, 4 cannon with 4-8 machine guns, rockets, was very successful as a night fighter also.
About the Me 210: The main flaw of the Me 210's design was not so much in the original plans, but was much rather a result of the tail having been shortened in an attempt to save resources which led to the mentioned instability issues. As described, this was quickly remediated in the Me 210s by inserting a section into the tail, along with minor changes to the wing design. But the altered aircraft was then very deliberately renamed as Me 410, obviously in an attempt to shed it of the Me 210's poor reputation. The Me 410 performed well for what it was intended to do, but it came at a time where the entire concept of heavy propeller driven twin engine fighters was becoming increasingly obsolete as the single engine fighters with their powerful engines simply had superior performance characteristics, which was not so much the case before WW2 and during in the earlier times of WW2, when the Bf 110 was initially operated with much greater success than later on.
According to Rudger Kosin (the aerodynmacist for the Ar 234 who wrote a book called "The German Fighter") Willy Messerschmitt personally intervened in the design process to shorten the tail for weight saving purposes. When the Me 210 exhibited stability problems non of the usual fixes worked: adding wing twist, slats, a single tail etc. Once the tail was extended the fixes worked. The problem was that the tooling had been made for the shorter tail and enormous delays meant that Me 210 production started over a year and a half late meant that instead of Me 210 production ramping up the factories had to be built to expand Me 110 production so Me 210 never achieved volme production. . Furthermore the Me 210 was to not only replaced the Ju 87 (Me 210 could have dive brakes and Stuvi slide bombing sight) but also the Ju 88 partially. This would have allowed indirectly retirement of the He 111. Me 210 problesm totally disrupted all German production plans. Willy Messerscmitt lost directorship of his company, narrowly avoiding jail but remained as a consultant. -Me 210C performed well but although faster carry bombs due to its internal bay was slower when clean than an Me 110. It also had poor fuselage volume for the equipment needed. -Nence the Me 410 had a deeper fueselage as well as more powerfull DB603A engines. Would have been as fast as a Mosquito with DB603L engines (two stage superchargers)
From another docu on youtube : Messerschmitt himself did not design the 210 ! - lt was one of his engineers. In the docu the name was told . Messerschmitt had interfered and so (! )the fuselage was shortened to safe material (!)😂 [ original words in that docu ].
The "Zerstörer" concept is perfectly viable. But you have to focus on exactly what makes it viable, which is speed. As long as the bigger, heavier fighter has a speed advantage, you're fine. Messerschmitt should have used their time to make the Bf 110 faster, rather than those gadget-fetish planes, 210, 410. Canopy can be better, bigger engines, better cooling solutions, new wing design with more fuel. Well made video, good understanding of things. I sub'd.
The top 118 aces of WWII are all German. It's amazing to think the allies actually won the war. By the way, the 119th ace is Finnish. That's quite interesting, considering the Finns were neither Axis or Allied. They just REALLY hated the Bolsheviks.
@@mrwhips3623 Let's put it this way...ever wondered why perverts,p*dos,creeps,sexual deviants, antifa goons,commies, vulture capitalists, corrupt neocons-all say they hate this particular system from Germany,and assorted strands that occured in Europe 100 years ago? History was written by the "victors"(you wouln't say by the look of their societies, nowadays)-while the others,have been censored and still are.
Jazz music was called "schräge Musik" in Germany at that time. That can be translated to slanted music. Also you can say there is music in something if it has power and there is a lot going on. So using this term for the upwards firing guns is playing with words on several levels. As far as I know, the British never understood how effective this was and never warned to bomber crews officially about this. A very simple way to avoid it would have been a window and one crew member watching down. As soon as the bomber starts to turn away, it can't be used anymore. It's impossible to aim on a jiggling target.
Good overall presentation indeed! However, it would have been interesting to see more details into some of the other [initial] combat histories and operations (besides focusing only over the _Reichsverteidigung_ over Nazi Germany) of the Me 410 _Zerstörergeschwader_ units (and of the Hungarian-operated Me 210/410 units) involved on the other fronts (i.e. the Mediterranean and Russian theatres); and including a breakdown of some of the major series versions of all these warplane types (notably, detailing a few of their [many] various [bizarre] armament configurations [including pics/footage] towards the roles they purposely served) would have served and added further insight into this presentation well to the novice viewer. Nonetheless, the story/bio on _'KnightSchlachtSpooken'_ Schnaufer was eye-opening and informative - never quite realized he was that high up in the pedestal amongst many of those _Nachtjäger_ aces within the sphere of the Luftwaffe's Defence of the Reich. It now seems to me that he was perhaps the 'Erich Hartmann' of the Western theatre of Nazi Germany's struggle for survival ... Thanks for posting!
Thanks for the detailed feedback! Yes, I’d love to include more details on all everything, but at over an hour of editing per minute, I need to draw a line somewhere!
Ok, Allied pilots were cosidered to have achieved Ace status by downing five enemy aircraft, for The Luftwaffe they were considered to have achieved Ace status by downing 10 enemy aircraft my friend. Other than that, a good video. Would have liked to see more on the ME 410 though.
No, the 110 was faster, practically as fast as a 109 or Spitfire, it was however slower in acceleration than the Hurricane and the other singel engine fighters, and less agile, the hurricane being the best in that regard.
Maybe you could have mentioned the circular defense, when a group of 110 created a huge circle for defense so that no plane could be attacked from the rear, as on the other side of the circle the attacker was targeted by the strong frontal armament of the planes there. Only when this circle was breached, successful attacks could be run. And of course this. Couldn’t protect any bombers….
The 'Abwehrkreis' was also used by Bf 109 Staffeln. And it was used over a given point to await the return of bombers from their target. Check out II. and III./ZG 26 doing this on 27th September 1940, for example. And the Bf 110 units protected bombers every bit as well as Bf 109 units (who on a lot of occasions flew high cover, so were out of position when RAF squadrons attacked).
I bet they were partially responsible for the rumor that the Luftwaffe had a Lancaster and Wellington shaped flare to simulate bombers being blown out of the stream.
This American says that 'The British have a lot of class' and in most cases a lot of steel nerves. I wish they had gotten along better with the US Flyers. Learning from the British (and the Aussies) could have saved a lot of Americans and won the war much more quickly
I just finished a book (A Thousand Shall Fall: The True Story of a Canadian Bomber Pilot in World War Two) and in his squadron (214) the Commonwealth and attached USAAF crews worked very well together and learned from each other. They flew the B-17, but used the (mostly) RAFs electronic countermeasures.
The 110 was a dazzling stunning incredibly successful weapon against countries still using horses and buggies, and wagons, and biplanes. Against countries that were mechanized not so much...
Hi - There was a time when I had about 40 viewers in English-speaking countries only so I could get away with being linguistically lazy. I pledge to do better next time!
@@nightjarflying "weird music" i would say (niemand sagt "schräge" sondern "seltsam")...but it's splitting hairs and you're right that jazz music is a whitewashed translation...it's more fitting that the translation should convey a bit of the ol' rassismus considering the unfortunate history of those who coined the phrase, imo
The name Zerstörer was optimistic to say the least. For more or less proper pronunciation, roll the “r” in the back of the mouth and it becomes tser-shteur-ur.
I'm dubious about the scores racked up by German fighter pilots because they could be credited with as many as three kills for shooting down a single bomber.
Bullshit. The Germans made extra sure that all kills were confirmed. They were probably the most careful about awarding kills out of all the nations. Of course mistakes still happened occasionally
Not true German fighter pilots were awarded 1 point for a single engine aircraft 2 for a twin engine and 4 points for a 4 engine. These points were accumulated for awarding medals and other merits. Only 1 kill was credited per aircraft no matter how many engines.
I am sorry to inform you that the picture of the “nephew of Goering” as you claimed is Hans-Jochim Marseilles not Goering. Your only error was to use a photo of the most talented fighter-pilot ever to sit in a cockpit and whose total kills could have doubled or tripled the best German aces! The Star of the Desert shot down 17 planes on one day just as an example of his unmatched gunnery skills and won the Knights Cross 1st class w/ oak leaves, swords and diamonds before he was shot down in a loaner plane which suffered engine issues in 1942. The guy’s life is 100% the stuff of which action movies are mad and there is little doubt that had he not been a German, WWII , fighter pilot, this story would be as well-known as the Red Baron of WWII!
It wasn't a success - the Germans lost & their "kills" in that period were far below those of the Allies in the same period. A German aircrew's life in Europe in 1945 was very short usually - even on night operations, the very few who got lucky are what you're referring to as "later success" which bears no comparison to the true picture.
@@mrwhips3623 It wasn't a "later success" as you put it though. The Luftwaffe consciously sacrificed their most capable aircrews rather than mount a sensible defence. They took the best from the surviving squadrons & those squadrons [full of beginners] were slaughtered in the air because no leadership. Overall a very stupid strategy that made the Allied job much easier.
@@nightjarflying yes they sacrificed their best air crew to the god Ra on the alter so that they would have ra blessings so the beginners would have more success. Nothing wrong with that strategy
At least do some research and rehearsal on the pronunciation of the key term. It is not „sserstorer“ as it has nothing to do with storage. It is tser - stö - rer with the ö pronounced somehow like the vowel the middle of [ girl ] …. Besides, good clip, like it. And subscribed….
I have friends and colleagues who can help me with Italian, Russian and Japanese terms. I speak English, French and American (lol). I don't know a single German speaker and will have to rely on Google Translate for pronunciation, but I will make a greater effort in the next one!
I like the amount of confidence you have pronouncing German words and names, but you might consider to put them through google translate first. and hit the little speaker button.
@@worldofwarbirds I just finished the video now, all in all it was a great video with a good lay-out of information. Wanted to add that because now it seems like i'm only negative.
Any english speaking RUclipsr making videos about german planes SUFFERS with the pronounciation of the various terms, it´s always funny to listen XD For example, "Wilhelmshafen" is the port of William, so it´s "Wilhelms-hafen", no "sh". And the term "Zerstörer" is really mean, the prefix "zer" indicated that something is disassembled. It should be given the harshest "Z" you can manage. And the "stö" part is like Sean Connery speaking "sturdy", make it "shturdy". So you got the "Zerstö-" parts, then simply add "-rer". Good luck improving your german pronounciation! It´s just as bad as learning english for a german speaker!
Hi - There was a time when I had about 40 viewers in English-speaking countries only so I could get away with being lazy. I pledge to do better next time!
It is funny… americans always make fun about germans soeaking english wrong… but here it is funny how all the german words are pronounced like totally wrong… ö, ü, ä…. or oe, ue, ae are not o, u, a…. The word „Zerstörer“ is said like „world“ or „word“. Not like in „ gore“ or „shore“ 😇🤭…
21:00 There you said it right: "I know a few 22 year olds and some of them have trouble getting out of bed in the morning". Modern generations are no match to these heroes. Now we have woke people, influencers and plenty of idiots.
I actually don't agree. Remember that the Axis thought that the democractic counties were all soft and a bunch of playboys. There were also plenty of shirkers and goldbrickers in all the WW2 armies as well as many pacifists, conscientious objectors and draft dodgers who refused to fight. I work with youth today, and know several who have signed up for the peacetime army. In a crisis, I'm betting that they would step up and do their bit...
@@worldofwarbirds oh I agree with what you write too. I am not generalizing. But if I look around me I see nothing but broken families with divorces and law suits and the children are not motivated in school like we used to be, have behavioral problems, autism, ADHD, physical abuse and violence. My wife works with these kids in special schools. You do have to agree at least that something is wrong in our modern society, education, politics, etc. It's one big mess. And nowadays there is this insane woke culture as well that makes no sense whatsoever. You would have to be blind not to see that. If our grandparents would be able to come back they would probably be shocked.
Looks like towards the last years of WW2, the German aircraft designers liberated themselves from the tyranny of their military design orders. Designing what they though was best. Trying really hard not to get wiped out by US aircraft. Surender was not an option even though their logistics were captured and it was futile! The Grumman F8F Bearcat was just coming into the campaign to join with the super marine Spitfire, P38, P51 and the P47. And all the other "P's" "B's" and "F's". No matter what branch you were in, playing dead, act like an escaped lunatic, or dress like a woman and walk west would have been the smartest tactic.
Excellent video....except for your butchering of the pronounciation of the german names and words 😄 Edit: for future videos I'd like to point you to the google translator, the pronounciation there is quite good.
I think my next video will be about a Yankee aircraft (which I shouldn’t have trouble with!) But for the next Luftwaffe airplane, I will make it a priority to do better!
@@worldofwarbirds I admit some of them arent easy to pronounce (Zerstoerer..). ;) If it helps, German is largely phonemic, you often pronounce words as they are spelled, unlike in English, e.g.: "schraege" is pronounced as a 2-syllable word /shrei-ghe/ rather than the English "age". Plus it is relatively easy to check google translator. ;) Anyway, gl with the channel!
"SCHRÄGE MUSIK" = Queer Music not Schrasche Musik i know German is a difficult language but we trie to pronounce english right, so you can trie to speak out German the right way, it sounds horrible the way you do it....😂😂😢
its funny how everyone talks about the p51...it didnt even fucking see service until 44. (in any actual number) and by then the P-47 had killed nearly 60% of the kills the entire allied(western) air forces had killed AT ALL in the entire war. by the time the mustang enterd combat the luftwaffe didnt even exist. it was scraps and already dead. 2. The mustang was either 5th or 6th on total kills. i forget which. 3. the p47 could fly from england to the boarder of poland and back. what it couldnt do is waste time flying circles waiting for bombers. hence the fact that the bombers always had AN escort. but normally it was a chain of 3 flights of 47s that escorted them. 4. The lightning and the typhoon also flew thoes escorts. and finally 5. the mustang had TERRIBLE handling. the thing was prone to snap spins and snap stalls if you pulled just barely too hard. and would roll over in an instant. thing was a sopwith camel in ww2. shiny. everyone knows it. yet it was a pile of shit and didnt effect the war anyway.
Great Video. Thanks. I recall reading somewhere that in the closing days of the war the BF-110 was the aircraft most in demand by the Luftwaffe. Quite a change from the post battle of britain days where it was generally villified.
not really, actually Bf-110 was very successful in first year on eastern front, outflying majority of Soviet fighters.
as a long-time speaker of pfälzer deutsch myself, i admit that i smiled at your pronunciation...but i also totally disagree with all the comments criticizing you for this! here we have a video that isn't about the german language, and unless you start posting on youtube.de or pretending that this is a language class, then i don't think you should worry too much :)
you can certainly imitate google translate's imitation german until you're blue in the face, but the fact will always remain that deutsche sprache schwere sprache - don't let the haters bother you and keep doing what you do (talking about planes)...just my opinion and you've got a new subscriber
Very cool and very nicely well done and executed in every detail way shape and form provided on and about everything of the BF110 and it's sister aircraft the 210 & 410's indeed!,👌.
I’ve had many requests for more on the 410, so I’ll be doing that eventually! Thanks for watching!
The first Luftwaffe night fighter pilot to shoot down 100 kills at night was Helmut Lent. He ranks as #2 of on the list of highest scoring Luftwaffe night fighter aces, with 102 night kills and 8 day kills. He was killed in a flying accident in October of 1944.Also, that photograph where Schnaufer is being decorated, the blond gentleman next to him is Erich Hartman. They were both there to receive the Oakleaves and Swords to the Knight's Cross.
Yes, I think I put a correction on the video at that point. Thanks.
07:32 - "...Hans Joachim Goering..." never heard of him but the picture is Hans Joachim Marseille, top scoring Jagdwaffe ace in North Africa.
Otherwise a fairly detailed, well presented video, thanks. Hoping to meet the Bf-110 in person at the RAF Museum next month.
Thanks for pointing out the error. I have added a correction to the video.
Hahaaaa, I was going to say the same thing! Well-spotted! ✨👏🏼😎✨
Impressive story of the night fighter crew. Proves all nations have the tallent to succeed
Great job! I had, also, never heard of the goblet.
The 110 was a very good design that showed its versatility.
The night fighter approach to target using ground radar, then onboard radar and finally mk1 eyeball sounds exactly the same as the British developed with the Bristol Beaufighter (possibly the closest equivalent the British had to the BF110). Some British pilots used night binoculars (large lenses to gather light but low magnification) to help visually pick up the target.
That was pretty common to every early radar set, until they got fine enough gun-laying radar and even then they would go to visual engagement when possible. The Germans never really mastered it.
@@obsidianjane4413 It wrong to imagine Beaufighter, Mosquito and Black Widow flying around with blind fire gun laying radar. When such things came in it was only in 1945 and then on USN Fighters and RAF Bomber Command gun laying radar (village in) rather than RAF and USAAF fighters. The Germajns had passable blind fire airborne radar as early as 1942 called "Pauke" but did not deploy for a number of reasons. More on that latter.
-Unfortunately the post war period was full of pop histories (no peer reviewed ones) telling use how smart they were in outfoxing the Germans technically. Including such things as "The Germans didn't have radar" (now thankfully gone) to Germans didn't have blind fire radar.
-You can find the actual truth in professional society papers such as IET and IEE and IEEE, BIOS,CIOS and FIAT and Geman language publications from Fritz Trenkle and Harry von Krogge (GEMA birthplace of German Sonar and Radar is available in English) and books such as "Blitz und Anker" .
-German Blind fire for ground FLAK radar starts with Wurzburg. Several versions:
1 Wurzburg A. Early 1940 service. A traverse, elevation and range operator could locate a target to within +/-2degrees and 130m out to 32km. It was designed as a warning radar but was successful in directing search lights, would sometimes be successful in destroying a bomber at night in clouds in complete blind fire and could be used to guide and interception.
2 Wurzburg B was the same as Wurzburg A but added an infrared precision tracker. Never used as Wurzburg C was a better solution.
3 Wurzburg C February 1941. Added conical scan and now only needed 1 operator for elevation and traverse. Conical scan increased accuracy to 0.3 degrees.
4 Wurzburg D May 1941. Apart from Conical Scan improved range accuracy to 25m. Latter versions had 0.25 degrees bearing accuracy. Also added a computer that converted spherical coordinates to Cartesian for position, altitude range.
5 Wurzburg-Riesse June 1941 was a Wurzburg D with a power driven 7m dish. This increase accuracy to 0.15 degrees and range to over 70km.
Hence with Wurzburg-Riesse and Wurzburg-D the Germans had blind fire capability.
-Wurzburg remained the finest AAA/FLAK radar untill the American introduction of the 9cm microwave SCR-584 in late 1943 during the Salerno landing when the Germans jammed SCR-268.
-Mannheim Fuse 64 German Radar was introduced in late 1943 about the same time as the SCR-584 using Wurzburg frequencies (slightly higher) and increased range accuracy to 6m with auto-lock for the range gate. Angular accuracy was increased to =/- 0.15 degrees by using electronic comparisons for the angular deviation returns.
-So the Germans had ground based Blind fire radar.
-The Lichtenstein 'stag aerials' type radars could be modified with a system called Pauke to give blind fire. These radars used 'lobe switching' where delays were inserted in each antenna to achive a left/right and up/down beam switching. By comparing the signal returns on an osciliscope the opperator could tell direction. Electronic comparison allowed enough accuracy for blind fire (proably 0.6 degrees at 200m or so).
-The Germans had a airborne microwave radar FuG 240 and FuG 244 (only 10 in service). The 3cm version was adapted to blind fire both for the FLAK 2cm C38 and night fighters, (called renner)
The portside stabiliser is not merely a monument to Schnaufer and his success but to the men who lost their lives because of him. The war between the RAF and Luftwaffe was unusual for the degree of mutual respect which did not exist in ground forces, it was almost like medieval chivalry, but it didnt stop them from killing each other at any opportunity!
👆Truth
A bit of bullshit here. The Luftwaffe had a contingent of pilots who killed 'downed' pilots on their parachutes - they did this in Poland & continued the practise. All WWII German military services was polluted by a Nazi strand which disregarded the so-called rules of war.
@@worldofwarbirds Amazing that some of the Raf and Luftwaffe pilots became lifetime friends after the war even as in the case of Adolf Galland making Stanford tuck his sons godfather and going into depression when Tuck sadly passed ,
As pilots who had gone through the same experiences, I'm sure they felt a mutual understanding that would be rare with anyone else!
There was a lot of mutual respect between all of the British and German forces of all services that did not exist between any other nation. Except the SS of course.
An excellent video on the Me 110. I have seen the Schnaufer tailfin in 2022, but it is in the Australian War Memorial in Canberra Australia.
Intestesting! Was it a temporary museum borrow or a replica? Or is it the other tailfin?
@@worldofwarbirds It's the starboard tailfin in the Australian War Memorial in Canberra, Australia, www.awm.gov.au/collection/C151552
Very well put together. Thank you
Glad you enjoyed it!
I recommend "The Fighters" by Colin Willock, if you can find a copy.
That Was An Interesting Video About The Plane & The Pilot. Thank You For Sharing.
Glad you enjoyed it
Good work. Good collection of photos and paintings to illustration the history of Bf 110. Good narration as well.
At 7:31, however, a wrong photo was shown. Photo of Hans-Joachim Marseille was shown who obviously is not Hans-Joachim Göring.
Thanks for spotting the error. I have added a correction to the video.
Ever since playing the computer game Their Finest Hour: The Battle of Britain I've had an odd interest in the bf-110 and the do-17. The BF 110 in the game was really cool because not only was it a fighter but it had a variant that could also carry bombs.
One of the things about those upward firing guns - is that the British had no belly guns to speak of - and mostly thought the damage they were taking from below - was from AA.
Here - towards the end of the war - the American Day Fighters had cleared the Luftwaffe from the skies - so that to some degree - the British switched to Day Bombing as they never really developed an answer to the German Night Fighter Defenses.
They would send their own night fighters but - they had no ground control to vector them in to where their own radars would pick up the German Night Fighters - whereas the German ground control radars could pick up the British Night Fighters.
One thing the American P-61 Black Widows would do was to go hang out in the vicinity of the German Night Fighter's bases - and wait for one to show up to land - which was the same strategy used against the Me-262. The problem in both cases was AA placed around the bases to prevent people from doing that.
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Yes, I’ve always wondered why the Brits didn’t put turrets on their bellies, especially when that began to be THE place for the night fighters to hit them…
The Mosquito NF30 was doing this before the P-61 was in service. The Airfield AA defense generally didn't have searchlights so why would loitering around a German airfield with lights off be a problem for any night intruder? 🙂
An excellent video, thank you.
Great post, really enjoyed it.
Glad to hear it!
Thank you for a very informative and excellent video !!😀
Glad you enjoyed it!
The basic 110 with its 1200hp motors served from 1936 to near the end of the war. In that era of lightening speed technological evolution that's pretty astounding.
To be fair the engines were upgraded to DB-605B's in the BF-110G series.
Much the same as the Bf 109, Spitfire and Hurricane, all mid 30's aircraft and still used to 1945 and beyond.
@@Slaktrax 30s. No apostrophe.
@@TomBartram-b1c Splitting hairs? little petty don't you think? You must have a boring life to be bothered about something so unimportant and not worth giving attention to because of a misspelling. 🙄
@@miquelescribanoivars5049
DB605-Bs.
No apostrophe.
no matter what they say, the 110 and the 410 were pretty planes^^
Very informative content, thanks for sharing.
Glad you enjoyed it!
If he shot down 100 four engines bombers, then he took @ 700 Allied fliers out of the war. The majority were killed in their aircraft or the crash landing, some managed to bail out and the very few (a handful really) either evaded capture or escaped from POW camps. Generally speaking any Lancaster or Halifax bomber shot down by schrage music (slanted jazz music) was frequently hit in the port inner wing fuel tank which caused the aircraft to immediately spin down uncontrollably and hit the ground and explode. The spin generated g-forces that pinned the crews inside the aircraft and prevented escape. Possibly the only one who might escape would be the tail gunner if he was wearing a chest parachute at all times and managed to turn his power turret sideways and bail out backwards.
Some moree facts about:
_ First group in Luftwaffee which claimed 500. kill, was II. ZG 76, the famous hallfish gruppe, equiped with Bf-110.
That was before jagdgruppen with Bf-109 do it.
_ according to Christer Bergstrom Bf-110 in Battle of Britainne was great airplane if units using it in right way. Zoom in and zoom out tactic was best suited for this machinne which was fast in dive and with heavy arnament
_ In 1941-43 on eastern front, german destroyer gruops were using Bf-110 in so called kampfzeerstorer role: That is ground attack, and with succese, without coming of new Me-210 to replace it
_ Me-210, succeesor never came. It was total disaster for Luftwaffe.
_ succesfull usage of Bf-110 was also in recconosance role. It was good mid range Luftwaffen aufklarer
_ wheen, only in 1943, came Me-410 it was too few and to late.
Imo, Bf-110 is one of the greatest of ww2 with long and succesfull carrier in multi role.
What about the Ju 88? That one did everything too! I’m looking forward to doing that one too.
Ju 87 for me.@@worldofwarbirds
The first model kit I built as a kid was a Fokker Triplane, and yes, she hung over my bed until the day I left for college.
I fell in love with ww2 armor kits... but always took the time to build a Stuka or Thunderbolt, lol.
Subscribed my friend.
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There was a kit with a candy applish red triplane that was among my first models. Liked it so well made two ! Thx. Good memory 👍
Very, very, interesting and entertaining. Also, no AI!
Thanks for sharing.
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Perusing around I see the "World of Warbirds" decided to check in and wow, well done ! Really enjoyed this episode.I grew up where we had a Naval Air Station. Willow Grove Naval Air Station, Horhsam PA .. so we had planes coming and going, had a huge parking lot to watch the planes take off and land..hosted one of the largest Air Shows on the East coast w/ the Blue Angels .. also had an 'outdoor' museum which desplayed the German ME 262 Swallow '2 seat trainer.. and the Sea Plane Arado Ar 196 IIRC.. among other planes, jets so I vecaome very fond of German WWII air planes.. eventually the AR was taken back by Germany, The ME was 'stolen' by those Marine jerks in FLA, after it was refurbished by us ..crummy restoration job as I the orginal livery was a "meandering" camouflage..change a bunch of marking etc.. I must have built 100 German aircraft .. all my allowance went to models.. So yeah, well done .. subscribed !!
That photo was not of Hans-Joachim Göring, but rather of Hans-Joachim Marseille 🙂. Nice video though 👍. Görings biggest mistake was perhaps to force the 110's to closely accompany his bombers instead of having them stacked up at altitude. With their centerline mounted devastating armament and high dive speed, they might have gobbled up quite a number of Hurricanes, especially those flown by inexperienced aircrew.
My bad! I got the wrong Hans-Joachim! I’m going to have to post an erratum!
Hans-Joachim Marseille was a fantastic pilot and definitely deserves his own video. The Desert Star I believe he was called.
Bf-110s were also used against US bombers with the terrifying tactic of launching rocket salvos into formations from outside .50 range. I'm not sure how many bombers were killed by the rockets, but there wasn't much the bomber gunners could do. Of course, escort fighters brought this to a screeching halt.
Yes, I haven't seen any stats on how effective the formation-busting rockets actually were. I have read that generally many of the unguided rocket weapons were more dazzle than anything because aiming them was so difficult. But in the case of formation-busters, all you really need to do is freak out a few pilots who break formation and you've had your success.
@@worldofwarbirds Good point! Thanks
Very good narrative.
I built a 110 model kit, too - I made mine the night fighter. Pretty neat, tho - had it hanging on my bedroom ceiling also.
Me 410 is my favorite ww2 plane. I love the remote teil turrets and really everything else about it.
Is that photo of Goring’s nephew Hans actually a photo of Hans-Joachim Marseille ?
Very good video/ channel indeed
Yes, I put a caption admitting the error. Oops!
@@worldofwarbirds Good Job.
Something that has been neglected that’s starting to be addressed with a restoration on what will be the only airworthy example to fly since 1946 is the Hawker Typhoon, a beast of a plane, it’s roll as a fighter bomber as legendary, especially around D Day, the Falaise gap, the battle of the bulge etc, iterations went on to the Hawker Tempest, according to Winkle Brown the legendary test pilot was one of the finest piston fighters with a speed of 470mph. The Bristol Beaufighter was developed, had a similar multi role profile as the Me 110, was called The Whistling Death by the Japanese, 4 cannon with 4-8 machine guns, rockets, was very successful as a night fighter also.
Very interesting. Well done
Glad you enjoyed it!
Goering was a morphine addict from the late 20's all the way up to his capture in 1945. This fact may shed some light on his actions.
Friend or enemy, there's a certain camaraderie amongst fliers.
Myth - depends on the enemy & their actions
About the Me 210:
The main flaw of the Me 210's design was not so much in the original plans, but was much rather a result of the tail having been shortened in an attempt to save resources which led to the mentioned instability issues.
As described, this was quickly remediated in the Me 210s by inserting a section into the tail, along with minor changes to the wing design. But the altered aircraft was then very deliberately renamed as Me 410, obviously in an attempt to shed it of the Me 210's poor reputation.
The Me 410 performed well for what it was intended to do, but it came at a time where the entire concept of heavy propeller driven twin engine fighters was becoming increasingly obsolete as the single engine fighters with their powerful engines simply had superior performance characteristics, which was not so much the case before WW2 and during in the earlier times of WW2, when the Bf 110 was initially operated with much greater success than later on.
Thanks for all these details! I may have to consult you when I profile the 410. I’ve had a bunch of people ask for an individual episode on it.
According to Rudger Kosin (the aerodynmacist for the Ar 234 who wrote a book called "The German Fighter") Willy Messerschmitt personally intervened in the design process to shorten the tail for weight saving purposes. When the Me 210 exhibited stability problems non of the usual fixes worked: adding wing twist, slats, a single tail etc. Once the tail was extended the fixes worked. The problem was that the tooling had been made for the shorter tail and enormous delays meant that Me 210 production started over a year and a half late meant that instead of Me 210 production ramping up the factories had to be built to expand Me 110 production so Me 210 never achieved volme production. . Furthermore the Me 210 was to not only replaced the Ju 87 (Me 210 could have dive brakes and Stuvi slide bombing sight) but also the Ju 88 partially. This would have allowed indirectly retirement of the He 111. Me 210 problesm totally disrupted all German production plans. Willy Messerscmitt lost directorship of his company, narrowly avoiding jail but remained as a consultant.
-Me 210C performed well but although faster carry bombs due to its internal bay was slower when clean than an Me 110. It also had poor fuselage volume for the equipment needed.
-Nence the Me 410 had a deeper fueselage as well as more powerfull DB603A engines. Would have been as fast as a Mosquito with DB603L engines (two stage superchargers)
great documentary... however Hans Joachim is Marseille NOT Goring
Yup. Wasn’t there a caption admitting the error?
From another docu on youtube : Messerschmitt himself did not design the 210 ! - lt was one of his engineers. In the docu the name was told .
Messerschmitt had interfered and so (! )the fuselage was shortened to safe material (!)😂 [ original words in that docu ].
The "Zerstörer" concept is perfectly viable. But you have to focus on exactly what makes it viable, which is speed. As long as the bigger, heavier fighter has a speed advantage, you're fine.
Messerschmitt should have used their time to make the Bf 110 faster, rather than those gadget-fetish planes, 210, 410. Canopy can be better, bigger engines, better cooling solutions, new wing design with more fuel.
Well made video, good understanding of things. I sub'd.
Welcome aboard!
Not to forget about the 310 of which i think only one was made and was basically a modified 210.
Yeah, I missed that one...
The top 118 aces of WWII are all German. It's amazing to think the allies actually won the war. By the way, the 119th ace is Finnish. That's quite interesting, considering the Finns were neither Axis or Allied. They just REALLY hated the Bolsheviks.
So did the Germans, maybe we weren't the bad guys idk🤔
@@mrwhips3623 Let's put it this way...ever wondered why perverts,p*dos,creeps,sexual deviants, antifa goons,commies, vulture capitalists, corrupt neocons-all say they hate this particular system from Germany,and assorted strands that occured in Europe 100 years ago?
History was written by the "victors"(you wouln't say by the look of their societies, nowadays)-while the others,have been censored and still are.
Jazz music was called "schräge Musik" in Germany at that time. That can be translated to slanted music. Also you can say there is music in something if it has power and there is a lot going on. So using this term for the upwards firing guns is playing with words on several levels.
As far as I know, the British never understood how effective this was and never warned to bomber crews officially about this. A very simple way to avoid it would have been a window and one crew member watching down. As soon as the bomber starts to turn away, it can't be used anymore. It's impossible to aim on a jiggling target.
Was there ever an Me 310?
There was one Me 310, but it was cancelled as it wasn't better than the Me 210
Good overall presentation indeed! However, it would have been interesting to see more details into some of the other [initial] combat histories and operations (besides focusing only over the _Reichsverteidigung_ over Nazi Germany) of the Me 410 _Zerstörergeschwader_ units (and of the Hungarian-operated Me 210/410 units) involved on the other fronts (i.e. the Mediterranean and Russian theatres); and including a breakdown of some of the major series versions of all these warplane types (notably, detailing a few of their [many] various [bizarre] armament configurations [including pics/footage] towards the roles they purposely served) would have served and added further insight into this presentation well to the novice viewer.
Nonetheless, the story/bio on _'KnightSchlachtSpooken'_ Schnaufer was eye-opening and informative - never quite realized he was that high up in the pedestal amongst many of those _Nachtjäger_ aces within the sphere of the Luftwaffe's Defence of the Reich. It now seems to me that he was perhaps the 'Erich Hartmann' of the Western theatre of Nazi Germany's struggle for survival ... Thanks for posting!
Thanks for the detailed feedback! Yes, I’d love to include more details on all everything, but at over an hour of editing per minute, I need to draw a line somewhere!
@@worldofwarbirds Understandably so!
The picture you showing is of Hans Joachim Marseille. He had nothing to do with Goring and with shot down in Africa
Thanks for the feedback! I had put a correction caption on the video. Was it not visible?
I'd be willing to wager that the photo shown when discussing the death of young Goring was not, in fact, Goring. Looks like Marseille to me
I just checked and you are CORRECT! You'd win your wager. I'll have to add an erratum (sigh)...
@@worldofwarbirds Well, I do enjoy your site.
Ok, Allied pilots were cosidered to have achieved Ace status by downing five enemy aircraft, for The Luftwaffe they were considered to have achieved Ace status by downing 10 enemy aircraft my friend. Other than that, a good video. Would have liked to see more on the ME 410 though.
I’ve gotten quite a few requests for the 410. I think I’ll give it a new episode to itself!
Thank you very much, she is not covered very much in videos it appears.@@worldofwarbirds
Why did you use a picture of Hans Joachim Marseille(in the western desert,no less) for Goering's son? They're not the same person!
🫢I know! I got the wrong Hans-Joachim! I’m going to have to post an erratum!
You got some pretty cool Youbage Tubeage! I'll sub to that!
The 110 was a little slower than a Hurricane 310mph v 324mph?.
No, the 110 was faster, practically as fast as a 109 or Spitfire, it was however slower in acceleration than the Hurricane and the other singel engine fighters, and less agile, the hurricane being the best in that regard.
The last o , (really an Ö) , is pronounced as the "i" in"Sir"
That was a photo of Marseille, not Goering's nephew...
Yeah, I put a correction caption on that.
Maybe you could have mentioned the circular defense, when a group of 110 created a huge circle for defense so that no plane could be attacked from the rear, as on the other side of the circle the attacker was targeted by the strong frontal armament of the planes there. Only when this circle was breached, successful attacks could be run.
And of course this. Couldn’t protect any bombers….
The 'Abwehrkreis' was also used by Bf 109 Staffeln. And it was used over a given point to await the return of bombers from their target. Check out II. and III./ZG 26 doing this on 27th September 1940, for example. And the Bf 110 units protected bombers every bit as well as Bf 109 units (who on a lot of occasions flew high cover, so were out of position when RAF squadrons attacked).
I bet they were partially responsible for the rumor that the Luftwaffe had a Lancaster and Wellington shaped flare to simulate bombers being blown out of the stream.
This is nonsense - a "Lancaster & Wellington-shaped" flare was never, ever the rumour nor the reality.
"Scarecrow Shells"...I guess it made the crews feel better about seeing airplanes blow up around them...
This American says that 'The British have a lot of class' and in most cases a lot of steel nerves. I wish they had gotten along better with the US Flyers. Learning from the British (and the Aussies) could have saved a lot of Americans and won the war much more quickly
I just finished a book (A Thousand Shall Fall: The True Story of a Canadian Bomber Pilot in World War Two) and in his squadron (214) the Commonwealth and attached USAAF crews worked very well together and learned from each other. They flew the B-17, but used the (mostly) RAFs electronic countermeasures.
The 110 actually had the best kill to loss rate of all the aircrafts used during the battle of Britain.
False.
@@chonqmonk nope. It actually had the best K/L ratio.
the Focke Wulf 187 actually performed better in tests and the very few preproduction aircraft that were flown were praised by their pilots
The 110 was a dazzling stunning incredibly successful weapon against countries still using horses and buggies, and wagons, and biplanes. Against countries that were mechanized not so much...
Very interesting. I have always been taken by the 110's rakish lines. Thank you and keep up the good work...but please...work on your German!
Hi - There was a time when I had about 40 viewers in English-speaking countries only so I could get away with being linguistically lazy. I pledge to do better next time!
Start with 'bye-eierisch' instead of 'bay-erisch'.
‘Jazz Musique’
No, it's Schräge Musik & it wasn't intended that the first word meant jazz. "Strange" is more accurate.
@@nightjarflying "weird music" i would say (niemand sagt "schräge" sondern "seltsam")...but it's splitting hairs and you're right that jazz music is a whitewashed translation...it's more fitting that the translation should convey a bit of the ol' rassismus considering the unfortunate history of those who coined the phrase, imo
Nice
Richards & Jagger
Good work. Well researched. German pronunciations are not very good but, hey, you made the effort ;-)
MORE effort will be made for the German episode...
Hans joachim marseille was the photo of big G's nephew or whatever lol
Hermann Goering was indeed *A BIG supporter of 'Destroyers'.* I would say specifically he was indeed a *HUGE* supporter of them!
Huge!
The name Zerstörer was optimistic to say the least. For more or less proper pronunciation, roll the “r” in the back of the mouth and it becomes tser-shteur-ur.
I'm dubious about the scores racked up by German fighter pilots because they could be credited with as many as three kills for shooting down a single bomber.
Bullshit. The Germans made extra sure that all kills were confirmed. They were probably the most careful about awarding kills out of all the nations. Of course mistakes still happened occasionally
Not true German fighter pilots were awarded 1 point for a single engine aircraft 2 for a twin engine and 4 points for a 4 engine. These points were accumulated for awarding medals and other merits. Only 1 kill was credited per aircraft no matter how many engines.
@@georgefox4982 So Franz Stigler, an actual Luftwaffe fighter pilot just made that up, then ?
I am sorry to inform you that the picture of the “nephew of Goering” as you claimed is Hans-Jochim Marseilles not Goering. Your only error was to use a photo of the most talented fighter-pilot ever to sit in a cockpit and whose total kills could have doubled or tripled the best German aces! The Star of the Desert shot down 17 planes on one day just as an example of his unmatched gunnery skills and won the Knights Cross 1st class w/ oak leaves, swords and diamonds before he was shot down in a loaner plane which suffered engine issues in 1942. The guy’s life is 100% the stuff of which action movies are mad and there is little doubt that had he not been a German, WWII , fighter pilot, this story would be as well-known as the Red Baron of WWII!
Thanks for the info. I had previously added a correction caption to the video. Was it not visible?
@@worldofwarbirds I didn't see it if you had added it. I just wanted to let you know, as the video was otherwise solid work!
The later success is even more amazing when you imagine all the shortages and poor quality fuel in late war Germany
It wasn't a success - the Germans lost & their "kills" in that period were far below those of the Allies in the same period. A German aircrew's life in Europe in 1945 was very short usually - even on night operations, the very few who got lucky are what you're referring to as "later success" which bears no comparison to the true picture.
@@nightjarflyinggiven the situation, they still put up a decent fight
@@mrwhips3623 It wasn't a "later success" as you put it though. The Luftwaffe consciously sacrificed their most capable aircrews rather than mount a sensible defence. They took the best from the surviving squadrons & those squadrons [full of beginners] were slaughtered in the air because no leadership. Overall a very stupid strategy that made the Allied job much easier.
@@nightjarflying yes they sacrificed their best air crew to the god Ra on the alter so that they would have ra blessings so the beginners would have more success. Nothing wrong with that strategy
Very nice better than that youtuber bismark😢
With a name like Bismark, I bet his German pronunciation is better Lol!
I think the fact that only a few examples of the 110 remain show how good they were.............
At least do some research and rehearsal on the pronunciation of the key term. It is not „sserstorer“ as it has nothing to do with storage. It is tser - stö - rer with the ö pronounced somehow like the vowel the middle of [ girl ] …. Besides, good clip, like it.
And subscribed….
I have friends and colleagues who can help me with Italian, Russian and Japanese terms. I speak English, French and American (lol). I don't know a single German speaker and will have to rely on Google Translate for pronunciation, but I will make a greater effort in the next one!
@@worldofwarbirds if i may help ?
sestörer eh
I like the amount of confidence you have pronouncing German words and names, but you might consider to put them through google translate first. and hit the little speaker button.
That will be the strategy for the next non-English aircraft. (Although I’ve had Brits go after my Canadian accent too!!)
@@worldofwarbirds I just finished the video now, all in all it was a great video with a good lay-out of information. Wanted to add that because now it seems like i'm only negative.
agreed but one knows what he meant oder? ;)
Blenheim wasn't a match for 110's
Great info! Your German pronunciation needs work, however.
Working on it!
Any english speaking RUclipsr making videos about german planes SUFFERS with the pronounciation of the various terms, it´s always funny to listen XD
For example, "Wilhelmshafen" is the port of William, so it´s "Wilhelms-hafen", no "sh". And the term "Zerstörer" is really mean, the prefix "zer" indicated that something is disassembled.
It should be given the harshest "Z" you can manage. And the "stö" part is like Sean Connery speaking "sturdy", make it "shturdy". So you got the "Zerstö-" parts, then simply add "-rer".
Good luck improving your german pronounciation! It´s just as bad as learning english for a german speaker!
Hi - There was a time when I had about 40 viewers in English-speaking countries only so I could get away with being lazy. I pledge to do better next time!
It is funny… americans always make fun about germans soeaking english wrong… but here it is funny how all the german words are pronounced like totally wrong… ö, ü, ä…. or oe, ue, ae are not o, u, a…. The word „Zerstörer“ is said like „world“ or „word“. Not like in „ gore“ or „shore“ 😇🤭…
I will make pronunciation a priority next time! (I will not apologise to the the Brits who criticize my Canadian English tho!!)
21:00 There you said it right: "I know a few 22 year olds and some of them have trouble getting out of bed in the morning". Modern generations are no match to these heroes. Now we have woke people, influencers and plenty of idiots.
I actually don't agree. Remember that the Axis thought that the democractic counties were all soft and a bunch of playboys. There were also plenty of shirkers and goldbrickers in all the WW2 armies as well as many pacifists, conscientious objectors and draft dodgers who refused to fight. I work with youth today, and know several who have signed up for the peacetime army. In a crisis, I'm betting that they would step up and do their bit...
@@worldofwarbirds oh I agree with what you write too. I am not generalizing. But if I look around me I see nothing but broken families with divorces and law suits and the children are not motivated in school like we used to be, have behavioral problems, autism, ADHD, physical abuse and violence. My wife works with these kids in special schools. You do have to agree at least that something is wrong in our modern society, education, politics, etc. It's one big mess. And nowadays there is this insane woke culture as well that makes no sense whatsoever. You would have to be blind not to see that. If our grandparents would be able to come back they would probably be shocked.
Looks like towards the last years of WW2, the German aircraft designers liberated themselves from the tyranny of their military design orders. Designing what they though was best. Trying really hard not to get wiped out by US aircraft. Surender was not an option even though their logistics were captured and it was futile!
The Grumman F8F Bearcat was just coming into the campaign to join with the super marine Spitfire, P38, P51 and the P47. And all the other "P's" "B's" and "F's". No matter what branch you were in, playing dead, act like an escaped lunatic, or dress like a woman and walk west would have been the smartest tactic.
Excellent video....except for your butchering of the pronounciation of the german names and words 😄
Edit: for future videos I'd like to point you to the google translator, the pronounciation there is quite good.
Noted! and that is the plan when I do the upcoming "Amerikabomber" series!
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Informative but please please work on your German pronunciation its really bad
I think my next video will be about a Yankee aircraft (which I shouldn’t have trouble with!) But for the next Luftwaffe airplane, I will make it a priority to do better!
Story was very interesting, thanks. German pronunciation terrible 😮
I’d better work on it before the Amerikabomber series…🤣
410. ???
U missed reporting 410. ?
Click. Bait
At 11:30.
But I've had a bunch of requests to do a single episode on the 410 and I've added it to my list.
Good history but very poor German pronunciation.
I promise that it’ll be better for my upcoming Amerikabomber series! Please subscribe and let me know how I’m doing!
Aaaaaaaagh, the German pronunciation! Much hurt, so pain!
It could have been used as a psychological weapon during the war! I promise to work on it
Man, you should become a teacher in german with that pronounciaton - tell you what 🤣🤣🤣
It’ll be better next time, I promise!
some really terrible pronunciation of the German words...
Judging by the comments, I’m the worst on RUclips! 🤣 I promise I’ll improve for the next Luftwaffe Flugzeug!
@@worldofwarbirds I admit some of them arent easy to pronounce (Zerstoerer..). ;) If it helps, German is largely phonemic, you often pronounce words as they are spelled, unlike in English, e.g.: "schraege" is pronounced as a 2-syllable word /shrei-ghe/ rather than the English "age". Plus it is relatively easy to check google translator. ;) Anyway, gl with the channel!
Thanks for the tips!
"SCHRÄGE MUSIK" = Queer Music not Schrasche Musik i know German is a difficult language but we trie to pronounce english right, so you can trie to speak out German the right way, it sounds horrible the way you do it....😂😂😢
It will be a priority next time.
its funny how everyone talks about the p51...it didnt even fucking see service until 44. (in any actual number) and by then the P-47 had killed nearly 60% of the kills the entire allied(western) air forces had killed AT ALL in the entire war. by the time the mustang enterd combat the luftwaffe didnt even exist. it was scraps and already dead. 2. The mustang was either 5th or 6th on total kills. i forget which.
3. the p47 could fly from england to the boarder of poland and back. what it couldnt do is waste time flying circles waiting for bombers. hence the fact that the bombers always had AN escort. but normally it was a chain of 3 flights of 47s that escorted them.
4. The lightning and the typhoon also flew thoes escorts.
and finally 5.
the mustang had TERRIBLE handling. the thing was prone to snap spins and snap stalls if you pulled just barely too hard. and would roll over in an instant. thing was a sopwith camel in ww2. shiny. everyone knows it. yet it was a pile of shit and didnt effect the war anyway.
🙂 schräge [ˈʃʁɛːɡə] Musik
Yes, I have improved my pronunciation since then (I hope) 🙂