People need to understand that Gatsby's "love" for Daisy was based on fantasy, not reality. Hence why their relationship was always doomed. She could never have lived up to his fantasy of her.
So he genuinely didn’t love Daisy, he loved the idea of her (status)? What do you believe was his fantasy that she couldn’t live up to? Sorry, I am doing a paper on this topic and I am stuck so I am seeking comment from others(:
@@lindas.espinoza1992 She symbolized in his mind, everything he was not and everything he wanted to become. Gatsby was ashamed of his poor origins, which was why he began re-inventing himself and concocting lies about his background from an early age. He wanted to become a superior being, and Daisy was the symbol of wealth, status, and high society. He placed her on a pedestal, obsessed over her, and refused to acknowledge anything that didn't comply with his fantasy. That was why he so desperately wanted to believe that she never loved Tom or any other man besides him, and why (in the novel) he had a hard time believing that Daisy and Tom had a child together, even with he saw the little girl with his own two eyes. That's not real love, and it is doomed when you expect others to conform to your fantasy. He thought if he possessed Daisy, he would finally have "The American Dream", but of course, real-life doesn't work that way. When Daisy found out Gatsby obtained his wealth from illegal activity and didn't love her for herself, she knew she could never be with him (assuming that Tom would even let her go). Gatsby refused to accept reality and that was what ultimately sealed his fate.
@@Muirmaiden Thank you so much for that response. I knew that’s Gatsby love wasn’t truly genuine, but I couldn’t really understand/comprehend why. You should be my teacher. Thank you very much!
@@lindas.espinoza1992 I know you already finished your paper, but if you want to read a book about Daisy's perspective on Jay Gatsby you should read "Beautiful Little Fool." The author does a great job showing that Gatsby wasn't really in love with Daisy, he was obsessed with her. Real love and obsession are two very different things. Anyway, it's an interesting read.
I always thought of daisy and gatsby’s relationship like Tom and summer in 500 days of summer. In both the man loves a fantasy of the woman and has unrealistic expectations of her that she can’t live up to. It’s like gatsby is forcing terms on daisy that she never signs but both gatsby and the audience feel betrayed when she doesn’t live up to them
Nick knows about Daisy's voice because she is her cousin. Any man could discern this quality --- he doesn't have to know about her history at all to sense this.
She was married to him and she loved him despite all of his misbehavioud and miss tress she never tought of leaving him it's was clear from the beginning of the of the book she knew about his affairs
In the book, Gatsby ceaselessly chasing after Daisy is symbolic of him and many other Americans chasing after the 'American dream'. However, in chapter two, we see that the middle to lower class citizens who chase after the dream, get corrupted as there is no tangible way to achieve the American dream; they can't measure 'success' so they replace it with getting the most amount of money that they possibly can. Daisy, who is shown as 'materialistic' is not after the actual wealth that she receives from her partners, it's that she's after a comfortable and secure life for her and her daughter. She knows that her life as a woman in the 1920's would be hard and she is just trying to make the best out of a bad situation, even if that means loosing the love of her life, Gatsby. Just as people think Gatsby is foolish for his relentless chasing of the American dream, it would be foolish to see Daisy as simply shallow and materialistic.
@@kitkat8802 I don't see her as materialistic, but as a person who can't live with her choices and doesn't care who she damages while she tries ti get what she wants. If she wanted to be with Tom because of what he offer, fine. But why cheat on him and then come back when Gatsby doesn't live up to what she expected. I think she is not complex, she is just someone, like many others, who can't deal with her decisions.
People need to understand that Gatsby's "love" for Daisy was based on fantasy, not reality. Hence why their relationship was always doomed. She could never have lived up to his fantasy of her.
So he genuinely didn’t love Daisy, he loved the idea of her (status)? What do you believe was his fantasy that she couldn’t live up to? Sorry, I am doing a paper on this topic and I am stuck so I am seeking comment from others(:
@@lindas.espinoza1992 She symbolized in his mind, everything he was not and everything he wanted to become. Gatsby was ashamed of his poor origins, which was why he began re-inventing himself and concocting lies about his background from an early age. He wanted to become a superior being, and Daisy was the symbol of wealth, status, and high society. He placed her on a pedestal, obsessed over her, and refused to acknowledge anything that didn't comply with his fantasy. That was why he so desperately wanted to believe that she never loved Tom or any other man besides him, and why (in the novel) he had a hard time believing that Daisy and Tom had a child together, even with he saw the little girl with his own two eyes. That's not real love, and it is doomed when you expect others to conform to your fantasy. He thought if he possessed Daisy, he would finally have "The American Dream", but of course, real-life doesn't work that way. When Daisy found out Gatsby obtained his wealth from illegal activity and didn't love her for herself, she knew she could never be with him (assuming that Tom would even let her go). Gatsby refused to accept reality and that was what ultimately sealed his fate.
@@Muirmaiden Thank you so much for that response. I knew that’s Gatsby love wasn’t truly genuine, but I couldn’t really understand/comprehend why. You should be my teacher. Thank you very much!
@@lindas.espinoza1992 Aww, thanks. Good luck with your paper!
@@lindas.espinoza1992 I know you already finished your paper, but if you want to read a book about Daisy's perspective on Jay Gatsby you should read "Beautiful Little Fool." The author does a great job showing that Gatsby wasn't really in love with Daisy, he was obsessed with her. Real love and obsession are two very different things. Anyway, it's an interesting read.
I always thought of daisy and gatsby’s relationship like Tom and summer in 500 days of summer. In both the man loves a fantasy of the woman and has unrealistic expectations of her that she can’t live up to. It’s like gatsby is forcing terms on daisy that she never signs but both gatsby and the audience feel betrayed when she doesn’t live up to them
Absolutely 💯 agree.
BUT - 500 days of summer is an absolute piece of shit of a movie ...... lol 😆
Great analysis, better with a better analogy x
@@adelepattonxxx I’ve never actually seen 500 days of summer but I’ve watched quite a few reviews and deep dives
I find that Daisy’s character is far more complicated than Gatsby’s
Even though her decisions are not the best, I truly believe that she left Gatsby for the sake of her mental health
Nick knows about Daisy's voice because she is her cousin. Any man could discern this quality --- he doesn't have to know about her history at all to sense this.
Would you mind commenting the document that you are reading from? Thanks very much
Why did she choose tom ?
She was married to him and she loved him despite all of his misbehavioud and miss tress she never tought of leaving him it's was clear from the beginning of the of the book she knew about his affairs
she pissed me off so much, indecisive mess.
I agree!
Can you share your notes on this topic? Please :)
Why daisy stay with nick??
I loathe Daisy
Why? I can’t help but like her but no one likes her
In the book, Gatsby ceaselessly chasing after Daisy is symbolic of him and many other Americans chasing after the 'American dream'. However, in chapter two, we see that the middle to lower class citizens who chase after the dream, get corrupted as there is no tangible way to achieve the American dream; they can't measure 'success' so they replace it with getting the most amount of money that they possibly can. Daisy, who is shown as 'materialistic' is not after the actual wealth that she receives from her partners, it's that she's after a comfortable and secure life for her and her daughter. She knows that her life as a woman in the 1920's would be hard and she is just trying to make the best out of a bad situation, even if that means loosing the love of her life, Gatsby. Just as people think Gatsby is foolish for his relentless chasing of the American dream, it would be foolish to see Daisy as simply shallow and materialistic.
@@kitkat8802 I don't see her as materialistic, but as a person who can't live with her choices and doesn't care who she damages while she tries ti get what she wants. If she wanted to be with Tom because of what he offer, fine. But why cheat on him and then come back when Gatsby doesn't live up to what she expected. I think she is not complex, she is just someone, like many others, who can't deal with her decisions.
@@kitkat8802 yes
@@mariacastilla1456 tom openly cheated on daisy first. But yes daisy character highlights how the rich step on everyone to get what they want.
I didn’t like her