Realistically the Community makes Arma what it is. All they have to release is Arma 3 but on an updated engine with updated sfx and let the modding community take care of the rest like it did in Arma 3.
@@justinmccormick2578 Absolutely love Arma, Always will. I always say that they make a great game for the community to have their fun with it and make it even better 👍🏻, same goes for Day Z
I agree completely. Releasing Arma on console would be limiting its potential and would be a very bad decision. I mean, who wants to play a realistic military simulation with a controller? In Arma 3, sometimes even with a keyboard you had a lot of inputs multiple times on the same key xD. Consoles are not meant for these types of games. The same with DayZ Standalone, it was a mistake to release it on console, because even on PC it feels like a console game xD
It seems like console players enjoy the games for that they are “vanilla” and pc player need”Mods” to enjoy games. Just judging by dude video and some comments
I disagree a decent milsim has been missing on the console for years ( flashpoint on the old Xbox ) proved it can be done and was popular. There’s a huge market for what’ milsim console users have wanted. We had ghost recon Wildlands great breakpoint was crap so I have hope for this 😎🙏
I seem to not have articulated myself that well. Isn't that the point? Nobody wants another operation flashpoint. We want the tiny Milsim genre and gaming in general to be pushed forward. I think centering everything on you commiting to a generally unwise decision (buying a console) and expecting the world to revolve around that, even though that will inherently limit the scope and consequently innovation for gaming in general, is really immature. If you have an issue with the selection you find on console (as you should have) you shouldn't have bought one.
@@Sackscheisserwell consoles are cheaper, so trying to restrict a game only to pc and not wanting console players to have access to the game is also immature.
@@Bigmakxz But it's also not realistically feasible. The specification requirements for consoles to maintain even basic graphical fidelity has to be on par with what most modern gaming PC's have to offer, and you're not going to get it with a cheaper system. Look at how Cyberpunk 2077 initially released on previous generation consoles, and tell me that CDPR didn't waste valuable time and resources to a project that did more damage to their reputation than good. Some games should just stay on PC, and PC alone.
Feel free to bring arma to consoles ( mostly kids), but have them buy even the cheapass keyboard and mouse set, forcing all keybinds on PC to 2 joysticks and 10 buttons is impossible and will just hurt PC and arma over all, current mod manager is also a pain for PC I really don't like current workshop for reforger, but maybe I just need to get used to it. I feel like modern console players won't be loyal to arma like all the milsim, rp and all other things arma has. BI knows that there is a decent community centered on what arma was and is and trying to make the game bigger and more accessible will just hurt its core values, fuck, it already has reforger is already on its way to the 2nd year and guess what they roadmap is being delayed further, because they are trying to take a massive thing called arma and add extra on top and then put it in the smallest box possible just for the ease of use and when you will finally open it ( arma 4) it will just be a mess, a game that wants to do it all but does nothing in reality. I really hope I am very wrong about this, but with each month it seems arma 4 will be part of the countless victims of modern game development. Spread soo thin that the holes appear and I believe consoles will cause that hole to rip unless arma 4 will be cared for by investors and that PC remains the focus with consoles being there as a desert to just have more people enjoy the game and arma can't be enjoyed with just a controller.
I’m not trying to be funny - but with so many games now being focused on Battle Royale, Arma 4 would be like a breath of fresh air. I, for one, cannot wait for Arma 4, cause I’m fed up of doing the same stuff over and over again. Nothing is creative anymore, it’s all copy and paste. That makes Arma special, because there’ll never be anything else quite like it
Yeah i'm not saying arma4 should be BR and BR only. I'm saying arma birthed BR and BR has held a tight grip on gaming for half a decade . Arma4 not being limited in scope by having to accomondate consoles will propel us into a new wave of innovation in gaming. " cause I’m fed up of doing the same stuff over and over again" bro buy/crack better games no ones forcing you to buy trash. Try some new genres you have never tried before.
It prob. gonna be fine, considering a Arma title was already on a console and now with more modern hardware it should be even more fine. Modding is better than ever, the game finally doesn't have the scroll menu anymore. We already see with Reforger that modding on PC won't be restricted and we also see mods on console (created from PC).
Sure it's fine if you want it to just be a better running arma 3. But Arma 4 should imo lay out the groundwork for possibly the next big genres you can't even imagine yet. Having to include the current gen of console hardware and periphery will inherently limit what it can do. "the game finally doesn't have the scroll menu anymore" big f ing deal as if that was any big achievement. We already see with reforgers control layout how limiting you often have to be on pc gamers to include consoles. Why would we want to make all these compromises? To accomondate people who chose (financially unwise might i add) to buy a console only to then cry about the selection of games they find on there?
@@Sackscheisser The current Console Gen is good enough from the hardware aspect to run large games. Arma Reforgers Controls are better than those of Arma 3. The interactive vehicles let alone are a much better experience than what the previous games would offer. Arma 4 can still layout the groundwork for future genres if you want that, hell even Reforger can already with its moddings aspect.
@@Sackscheisser you make a solid point but kill it with you PC Elitism. Arma Reforger is awesome and to me the best middle ground that can work on both PC and Console. I do however believe it would’ve been better to have that as an off shoot and Arma 4 be its own thing. You shouldn’t hamper player growth due to elitism there is a lack of tactical shooter on console in recent years and releases like Arma, Insurgency and HLL on these systems have shown an interest and willingness to play these sorts of games.
No...the dumbing down of the series for the sake of console/controller compatibility will shrink the community, not grow it. The hardcore players (which a game needs) will leave and be replaced with low-interest console gamers who will ditch the game when the next thing comes along.
Realistically the Community makes Arma what it is. All they have to release is Arma 3 but on an updated engine with updated sfx and let the modding community take care of the rest like it did in Arma 3.
Arma reforger is doing great on the backs of the community so I totally agree
@@justinmccormick2578 Absolutely love Arma, Always will. I always say that they make a great game for the community to have their fun with it and make it even better 👍🏻, same goes for Day Z
Thank you for making this video expressing your concerns and worries! I hope devs see it too.
I loved arma 2. Arma 3 felt like a worse version of arma 2 with better graphics but ran poorly.
Can they make arma 4 only compatible with a h100 and gear it up on thick juice?
I agree completely. Releasing Arma on console would be limiting its potential and would be a very bad decision. I mean, who wants to play a realistic military simulation with a controller? In Arma 3, sometimes even with a keyboard you had a lot of inputs multiple times on the same key xD. Consoles are not meant for these types of games. The same with DayZ Standalone, it was a mistake to release it on console, because even on PC it feels like a console game xD
It seems like console players enjoy the games for that they are “vanilla” and pc player need”Mods” to enjoy games.
Just judging by dude video and some comments
I disagree a decent milsim has been missing on the console for years ( flashpoint on the old Xbox ) proved it can be done and was popular. There’s a huge market for what’ milsim console users have wanted. We had ghost recon Wildlands great breakpoint was crap so I have hope for this 😎🙏
I seem to not have articulated myself that well. Isn't that the point? Nobody wants another operation flashpoint. We want the tiny Milsim genre and gaming in general to be pushed forward. I think centering everything on you commiting to a generally unwise decision (buying a console) and expecting the world to revolve around that, even though that will inherently limit the scope and consequently innovation for gaming in general, is really immature. If you have an issue with the selection you find on console (as you should have) you shouldn't have bought one.
@@Sackscheisser so you don't want arma and milsim to reach a wider audience?
@@Sackscheisserwell consoles are cheaper, so trying to restrict a game only to pc and not wanting console players to have access to the game is also immature.
@@SackscheisserI agree with you...I don't believe milsims can be for consoles
@@Bigmakxz But it's also not realistically feasible. The specification requirements for consoles to maintain even basic graphical fidelity has to be on par with what most modern gaming PC's have to offer, and you're not going to get it with a cheaper system. Look at how Cyberpunk 2077 initially released on previous generation consoles, and tell me that CDPR didn't waste valuable time and resources to a project that did more damage to their reputation than good. Some games should just stay on PC, and PC alone.
Feel free to bring arma to consoles ( mostly kids), but have them buy even the cheapass keyboard and mouse set, forcing all keybinds on PC to 2 joysticks and 10 buttons is impossible and will just hurt PC and arma over all, current mod manager is also a pain for PC I really don't like current workshop for reforger, but maybe I just need to get used to it. I feel like modern console players won't be loyal to arma like all the milsim, rp and all other things arma has. BI knows that there is a decent community centered on what arma was and is and trying to make the game bigger and more accessible will just hurt its core values, fuck, it already has reforger is already on its way to the 2nd year and guess what they roadmap is being delayed further, because they are trying to take a massive thing called arma and add extra on top and then put it in the smallest box possible just for the ease of use and when you will finally open it ( arma 4) it will just be a mess, a game that wants to do it all but does nothing in reality.
I really hope I am very wrong about this, but with each month it seems arma 4 will be part of the countless victims of modern game development. Spread soo thin that the holes appear and I believe consoles will cause that hole to rip unless arma 4 will be cared for by investors and that PC remains the focus with consoles being there as a desert to just have more people enjoy the game and arma can't be enjoyed with just a controller.
Lol it's funny how these losers are so afraid of Arma 4 they're literally making videos about how it will fail 5 years before it's even released
Bohemia said they will NOT be compremising on the arma 4 title. Itll basically be a new expansion on a new engine. Idk why tf u would rant on it
I don't even have a PC and I agree with this guy
i'm happy to hear that
I’m not trying to be funny - but with so many games now being focused on Battle Royale, Arma 4 would be like a breath of fresh air.
I, for one, cannot wait for Arma 4, cause I’m fed up of doing the same stuff over and over again. Nothing is creative anymore, it’s all copy and paste. That makes Arma special, because there’ll never be anything else quite like it
Yeah i'm not saying arma4 should be BR and BR only. I'm saying arma birthed BR and BR has held a tight grip on gaming for half a decade . Arma4 not being limited in scope by having to accomondate consoles will propel us into a new wave of innovation in gaming. " cause I’m fed up of doing the same stuff over and over again" bro buy/crack better games no ones forcing you to buy trash. Try some new genres you have never tried before.
@@Sackscheisser I’ve got games from pretty much all genres, just the new games are basically the same stuff.
@@Sackscheisser they’ve just released Wastelanders, which could be pretty fun, so I’m installing that later
Good Video! I have 3 000 h of KOTH in my arsch, and will I have 3 000 h more in Arma 4?
thank you
It prob. gonna be fine, considering a Arma title was already on a console and now with more modern hardware it should be even more fine. Modding is better than ever, the game finally doesn't have the scroll menu anymore. We already see with Reforger that modding on PC won't be restricted and we also see mods on console (created from PC).
Sure it's fine if you want it to just be a better running arma 3. But Arma 4 should imo lay out the groundwork for possibly the next big genres you can't even imagine yet. Having to include the current gen of console hardware and periphery will inherently limit what it can do. "the game finally doesn't have the scroll menu anymore" big f ing deal as if that was any big achievement. We already see with reforgers control layout how limiting you often have to be on pc gamers to include consoles. Why would we want to make all these compromises? To accomondate people who chose (financially unwise might i add) to buy a console only to then cry about the selection of games they find on there?
@@Sackscheisser The current Console Gen is good enough from the hardware aspect to run large games. Arma Reforgers Controls are better than those of Arma 3. The interactive vehicles let alone are a much better experience than what the previous games would offer.
Arma 4 can still layout the groundwork for future genres if you want that, hell even Reforger can already with its moddings aspect.
@@Sackscheisser you make a solid point but kill it with you PC Elitism. Arma Reforger is awesome and to me the best middle ground that can work on both PC and Console. I do however believe it would’ve been better to have that as an off shoot and Arma 4 be its own thing. You shouldn’t hamper player growth due to elitism there is a lack of tactical shooter on console in recent years and releases like Arma, Insurgency and HLL on these systems have shown an interest and willingness to play these sorts of games.
what do accept of a company focusing on a moders to beld there game insted of them { i accept nothing ]
Bro, please take your mic out from beneath your bed..
arma 3 was a disgrace, i expect arma 4 will be more of the same
I don’t know why PC players complain. You guys are getting bigger community. I remember when reforger only had 60 active players for a bit on steam
No...the dumbing down of the series for the sake of console/controller compatibility will shrink the community, not grow it. The hardcore players (which a game needs) will leave and be replaced with low-interest console gamers who will ditch the game when the next thing comes along.