Lol yeah I played like trash. Not used to having that many ways to combo. Its overwhelming. If I play it again, you can get that it will be like a 5 turn game.
If you want to update the deck, or just for future reference, it's Thespians' Stage that combos with dark depths. It gets the Ice counters on ETB so Vesuva also gets them as we saw here cuz it enters as the copy, Stage is already on the battlefield when it clones so no ice counters
Lol yes indeed. Someone was telling me another content creator that played Farseek in their mono green deck. I responded with, I've made that exact mistake. Play the game long enough, and bad things will happen.
That's what my Golos deck is. And every game I have to explain that I will not be dropping eldrazi just so I'm not focused and my commander isn't insta killed.
Also, with Golos, the best time to use a tutor (especially a one mana tutor) is at sorcery speed right before you activate Golos. So the best time to tutor for Emmy is main phase, that way you don't have to pay :)
I know this videos older but a tip I've learned is always always make sure that you have your Mana colors correct before you go tutoring for a bunch of colorless lands. But PJ is the man!
@CommanderReplay - you should try out Mayael, the OG built-as-a-commander to cheat costs. ~33 of the biggest creatures possible, regardless of Mana costs, ~15 ramp spells and Mana rocks (no dorks) then tutors, ways to manipulate the top of your deck, and all the ways to cheat them into play. If you have to cast a creature other than your commander or a seedborn muse, you're doing something wrong.
if you struggle for colors just get cascading cataracts, give you a 5mana of any combination for 5 and tap, best sink for coffers excessive mana generation. and it can't be stripped cause indestructible.
The best Golos Deck I could come up with is probably just my Tymna//Thrasios Flash Hulk deck where I've swapped out Tymna//Thrasios for Golos and Pyroblast. Even without any commander, the deck consistently wins turn 3-4 (turn 2 if lucky and turn 1 if very lucky), so as long as I've got access to my 4 colors, it really doesn't matter much which commander I use (Golos is worse ofc, especially vs. control or stax, but not by that much).
There are a lot of cool land based combos, argothian elder with Maze of ith, deserted temple cabal coffers and inventors fair to get rings of bright hearth, etc
Lol thanks man. Will try to get another one soon with less punts. It really is an evil deck though. Dave strip mined me 3 times on turn, with a summer bloom and and a ramanup excavator. It is savage.
Yes that is correct. Or ramps into other big stuff. Even if they are just vanilla 6 drops, which they aren't, its still a problem. The other way to look at it is, no such thing as "casual golos." Eliminate with extreme prejudice in all occasions.
I really want to try to build a Golos Scapeshift deck. Like one that uses Prismatic omen + Valakut. Throw in Yarok, Ob nix, field of the dead for even more damage. Getting 43 triggers off scapeshift wont be easy in multiplayer. But Splendid reclamation and zuran orb exist so I don't feel like the deck would entirely depend on scapeshift alone.
Thinking about adding in pristmaic omen and joiner adept. Bounce lands are slow though, and this deck wants to be quick. Dont want too many CIPT lands.
You want to see a powerful Golos deck? Check out this "Super Friends" decklist. It went 4 (wins) & 1 (losses) scheduled competitive events at Magicfest Las Vegas this year and was featured on 2 podcasts. deckstats.net/decks/46582/954672-golos-tireless-pilgrim
Expensive relative to both! The fetches on MTGO really run up the cost. In paper, pretty much every land is crazy expensive including the workshop as mentioned below. Tapped out says a cool $7k in paper, and 350tix on magic online. If you cut the workshop and some duals you could probably cut the cost in half.
I was the Llawan opponent here, gg again. I misplayed too, combo not my normal playstyle and think it would have been better to just tutor for Fabricate or card draw instead of Pongify when I did and just go for the win. Splitting my tutors between answers and my own combo slowed me down way too much.
Yeah I could see that being an issue. I forgot that I had recycle eldrazi in my deck so no dice if you fired it at me :) Everyone else in trouble though. In either case, Combo hard.
Just wasn't paying attention that much. I guess I don't have Sylvan and Oracle at the same time a lot. Also with the way this deck wins my life total isn't that relevant. If I make less mistakes the game is easily 2-3 turns shorter. So normally you would just draw as much as you can. But yeah, it definitely looks sloppy in hindsight.
You could cut like 5 cards from this deck and the price probably comes down about $5000. I was going for strong as possible with this particular one. I dont exactly play budget in my other games, but I do tend to naturally shy away from cards that have paper prices over $1000 like workshop and stuff, even though I could easily use them online.
I don't like decks stuffed with mean and powerful stuff very much, especially if you plan on cheating them out with dudes like Jodah oder Golos. Just my two cents and the usual comment for a PJ-video.
It’s only one card less that Narsets attack trigger and can cast all of the broken extra turn spells that Narset can. And Golos can cast creatures too.
Yeah definintely gonna be play this one again. Maybe later in the week. Played a few extra games with it that I didn't film, when you don't make mistakes it wins pretty quickly.
@@CommanderReplay eh i like combos going off. Its kinda a thing where if i cant stop it then its supposed to happen. But my decks have a lot of board wipes and target spells
Actually did not seem that powerful. Not even close to cEDH level. Not saying that it cannot be. A lot of cEDH decks just care for their commanders because of their colors. And Golos fits that just nice. But then when all players are playing cEDH there will be players on STAX variants with usually several mass artifact and mass land destruction spells, so it is far from easy to get going. Also cEDH control is a thing as well.
Thats just cause I made a lot of mistakes. Wait for the next round. You can strip mine lock people starting on turn 2. Because the deck is mostly lands, its just really difficult to interact with.
I would imagine cedh golos would focus more on infinite Mana combos like dramatic scepter. Something akin to the 5 color ally. Although I don't think food chain would work..
Cursed Totem works against Golos. I think I'm going to be picking one of those up soon. But yeah something to shut down the play cards for free mechanic would be nice. Lavinia does it, but she's a little bit too narrow most of the time.
I almost cried when he didn't take the free Enter the Infinite.
Lol yeah I played like trash. Not used to having that many ways to combo. Its overwhelming. If I play it again, you can get that it will be like a 5 turn game.
Half the fun is watching PJ go to Punt-Town when outside the Boros colors.
*PUNT COUNTER MALFUNCTION*
If you want to update the deck, or just for future reference, it's Thespians' Stage that combos with dark depths. It gets the Ice counters on ETB so Vesuva also gets them as we saw here cuz it enters as the copy, Stage is already on the battlefield when it clones so no ice counters
Yeah I knew that, for some reason I thought it would work with Vesuva also.
@@CommanderReplay I've the exact same thing before, and I didn't have the extra pressure of being on camera lol
Lol yes indeed. Someone was telling me another content creator that played Farseek in their mono green deck. I responded with, I've made that exact mistake. Play the game long enough, and bad things will happen.
And here I am just considering building a fair Maze's End deck with Golos lol.
That's what my Golos deck is. And every game I have to explain that I will not be dropping eldrazi just so I'm not focused and my commander isn't insta killed.
12:47 why did you keep the lands with the Sylvan Library when you had an Oracle of Mul Daya in play? Pay 8 life for zero benefit.
Because he makes mistakes like all mtg players do.
I get that, but he's counting punts this video and missed this one.
David Provencher - You’re coming off as a know-it-all.
@@Station9.75 no he is just right
@@Station9.75 he literally is right, and it's not like he was being a dick or anything
once you start counting punts you gotta see them all (:
Also, with Golos, the best time to use a tutor (especially a one mana tutor) is at sorcery speed right before you activate Golos. So the best time to tutor for Emmy is main phase, that way you don't have to pay :)
Probably instant speed tutoring in response to its activation... Dodging mill stuff
I know this videos older but a tip I've learned is always always make sure that you have your Mana colors correct before you go tutoring for a bunch of colorless lands. But PJ is the man!
...then no Jin Gitaxias for free!!! I'm crying like a baby!
He could not play blue creatures at that time due to Llawan
I read the title as how Boros can we make Golos, and kinda disappointed that's not what you're doing.
Lol, you want Boros Golos?
@@CommanderReplay Yes.
I'm glad that's not what this deck was. The man needs to branch out to get better at other colors, lol!
@CommanderReplay - you should try out Mayael, the OG built-as-a-commander to cheat costs. ~33 of the biggest creatures possible, regardless of Mana costs, ~15 ramp spells and Mana rocks (no dorks) then tutors, ways to manipulate the top of your deck, and all the ways to cheat them into play. If you have to cast a creature other than your commander or a seedborn muse, you're doing something wrong.
Or a primal surge deck. I can give you lists for both.
if you struggle for colors just get cascading cataracts, give you a 5mana of any combination for 5 and tap, best sink for coffers excessive mana generation. and it can't be stripped cause indestructible.
I love golos gate tribal it is incredibly fun.
The best Golos Deck I could come up with is probably just my Tymna//Thrasios Flash Hulk deck where I've swapped out Tymna//Thrasios for Golos and Pyroblast. Even without any commander, the deck consistently wins turn 3-4 (turn 2 if lucky and turn 1 if very lucky), so as long as I've got access to my 4 colors, it really doesn't matter much which commander I use (Golos is worse ofc, especially vs. control or stax, but not by that much).
12:30 punt 4 dont need to pay life with a Oracle in play. Because there coming off the top anyways
There are a lot of cool land based combos, argothian elder with Maze of ith, deserted temple cabal coffers and inventors fair to get rings of bright hearth, etc
How did the ramos player make so many tokens with one Sorin activation and doubling season?
Yeah it came in doubled, they ultimates it then received doubled tokens. I may not have called all of that the right way.
Oh! Makes sense. I completely forgot about the ultimate 😂
I hated this.....I loved this.....I don't know how to feel!!! Great video bro.
Lol thanks man. Will try to get another one soon with less punts. It really is an evil deck though. Dave strip mined me 3 times on turn, with a summer bloom and and a ramanup excavator. It is savage.
“Casual Golos” is code for “aggressively ramps into Dragon’s Maze win,” right?
Yes that is correct. Or ramps into other big stuff. Even if they are just vanilla 6 drops, which they aren't, its still a problem. The other way to look at it is, no such thing as "casual golos." Eliminate with extreme prejudice in all occasions.
I really want to try to build a Golos Scapeshift deck. Like one that uses Prismatic omen + Valakut. Throw in Yarok, Ob nix, field of the dead for even more damage. Getting 43 triggers off scapeshift wont be easy in multiplayer. But Splendid reclamation and zuran orb exist so I don't feel like the deck would entirely depend on scapeshift alone.
Some of my Patreons have been experimenting with Last stand. That maybe be another thing if you’re using omen. It can certainly work!
@@CommanderReplay Oh that's a really good one! Thanks, I'll have to put that on the list.
Are you playing bounce lands in the deck? It's a good way to get 5 colors asap.
Thinking about adding in pristmaic omen and joiner adept. Bounce lands are slow though, and this deck wants to be quick. Dont want too many CIPT lands.
So I’m new to magic how do I play on this online format?
Yo dude the play is Dark Depths and thespian stage. But you can also use aether snap to remove all counters from the original DD.
What is that program called that lets you play edh online
Magic Online, MTGO.
Tabletop simulator on steam is the best for it. Can pretty much always find commander games also
i LOVE to see some high power edh now and then!
For destroying opponents nonbasics I like Destructive Flow, Shivan Harvest and Army Ants. Those cards can really soft lock opponents.
Have you thought about playing this deck again on stream to get better at it?
Yes and no. Yes for the practice, no because everyone plays Golos.
How to play this programme online ? I love it
This is magic online. Check the wizards website for it.
How about how a competitive look at yarok now that he has been out for a while?
You want to see a powerful Golos deck? Check out this "Super Friends" decklist. It went 4 (wins) & 1 (losses) scheduled competitive events at Magicfest Las Vegas this year and was featured on 2 podcasts. deckstats.net/decks/46582/954672-golos-tireless-pilgrim
What is the cost of that deck online and on paper?
Expensive relative to both! The fetches on MTGO really run up the cost. In paper, pretty much every land is crazy expensive including the workshop as mentioned below. Tapped out says a cool $7k in paper, and 350tix on magic online. If you cut the workshop and some duals you could probably cut the cost in half.
Nice game. I have a fun golos deck myself. Golos gods
instead of vesuya you need to use thespian stage because vesuya copies the counters since its a etb trigger. thespian stage does not.
I was the Llawan opponent here, gg again. I misplayed too, combo not my normal playstyle and think it would have been better to just tutor for Fabricate or card draw instead of Pongify when I did and just go for the win. Splitting my tutors between answers and my own combo slowed me down way too much.
Yeah I could see that being an issue. I forgot that I had recycle eldrazi in my deck so no dice if you fired it at me :) Everyone else in trouble though. In either case, Combo hard.
13 land in play with a coffers and a urborg... Glacial Chasm. Seems like you have the mana to pay for dark depths :)
I would have gone for Expropriate with the vampiric tutor... that spell wins game.
Yeah that play didn't look so good in hindsight. I really had an embarrassment of riches and wasn't able to handle that so well.
Why pay 8 life to draw 2 lands when u can play them from the top for free PJ *facepalm
Lol thats what i said too
Just wasn't paying attention that much. I guess I don't have Sylvan and Oracle at the same time a lot. Also with the way this deck wins my life total isn't that relevant. If I make less mistakes the game is easily 2-3 turns shorter. So normally you would just draw as much as you can. But yeah, it definitely looks sloppy in hindsight.
I just wanted to build guild gate tribal with Golos but now he’s been discovered as busted in half. Now he’ll just die on sight
Its ok its looks like some new busted in half commanders will be here soon so it should take the focus off a little bit.
I run Peregrine Drake and deadeye navigator for infinite mana and cast deck.
Yeah Thespian stage is the combo with depths not vesuva haha
I knew that, then I sort of tricked myself into thinking vesuvua would work. Oops.
casually playing a $20k+ deck lol. this i think i will chalk up to a dream deck (granted forgoing lands could save a LOOOOOT of money)
You could cut like 5 cards from this deck and the price probably comes down about $5000. I was going for strong as possible with this particular one. I dont exactly play budget in my other games, but I do tend to naturally shy away from cards that have paper prices over $1000 like workshop and stuff, even though I could easily use them online.
So many mistakes...My eyes!
Nice deck, looks cute.
Holly hell the cost of this deck
I don't like decks stuffed with mean and powerful stuff very much, especially if you plan on cheating them out with dudes like Jodah oder Golos.
Just my two cents and the usual comment for a PJ-video.
Just wow
Golos is 5 color Narset
That’s a good comparison. I like that.
It’s only one card less that Narsets attack trigger and can cast all of the broken extra turn spells that Narset can. And Golos can cast creatures too.
Yo your title has 2 Golos opponents and you have a Golos and Ramos opponent, might want to change that :)
I changed, I think its less awkward now. Thanks!
The real enemy was his own punts
Oof. Yikes. Thx for the warning
Let’s see it again please?
Yeah definintely gonna be play this one again. Maybe later in the week. Played a few extra games with it that I didn't film, when you don't make mistakes it wins pretty quickly.
All that Mana wasted beside dark depths 🤣😂🤣 why rushing when you can read the cards
Im not up for focusing down or ganging up on an opponent
Just face this thing a few times, and you will be :)
@@CommanderReplay eh i like combos going off. Its kinda a thing where if i cant stop it then its supposed to happen. But my decks have a lot of board wipes and target spells
Actually did not seem that powerful. Not even close to cEDH level. Not saying that it cannot be. A lot of cEDH decks just care for their commanders because of their colors. And Golos fits that just nice.
But then when all players are playing cEDH there will be players on STAX variants with usually several mass artifact and mass land destruction spells, so it is far from easy to get going. Also cEDH control is a thing as well.
Thats just cause I made a lot of mistakes. Wait for the next round. You can strip mine lock people starting on turn 2. Because the deck is mostly lands, its just really difficult to interact with.
I would imagine cedh golos would focus more on infinite Mana combos like dramatic scepter. Something akin to the 5 color ally. Although I don't think food chain would work..
that was so bad lol
what spell should i search up to play for free this 3 mana one seems nice lol
Omg tutors for Crucible. Literally has a play a free set of 3 and goes for crucible...
In hindsight that play doesn't look so good.
Woah, I thought there was something wrong when I didn't see any comments.
We need an artifact that prevents spells being cast for free.
Cursed Totem works against Golos. I think I'm going to be picking one of those up soon. But yeah something to shut down the play cards for free mechanic would be nice. Lavinia does it, but she's a little bit too narrow most of the time.