Thank you for another informative video. In my opinion the best available on RUclips. Regarding keeping to the left on blind left hand bends which I totally agree with there is another danger to watch out for. Because you’re leaning into the bend depending on your speed you must look out for tree branches or posts etc sticking out into your path which you could come in contact with so don’t get too close in, they are not easy to avoid in that lean in position. A small point but important to be in your head while you’re thinking about your ride and looking after yourself. It’s all about the speed! Keep up the good work 👍
Terrific video , full of life saving advice for everyone. I too try to ride in such a way that I won't hear Phil's voice saying, "That was a dumb move, why did you do that? "
Just returned to riding after 40 years. So glad I did a back to biking course. I have gleaned alot from your videos thank you. Especially found the class of new/returning riders really helpful.
I’ve heard lots of people say, when asked what position on road they take, say, to the right. Off centre. Not wrong in itself but that seems to be the ingrained, default. Personally, I’ll say … all of it. For the very reasons you’ve outlined. I may have the wrong perception but I do think some riders are worried about using the road to their advantage, for whatever reason.
Great video and thought provoking. It always surprises me how some riders, even those with advanced rider training will on blind left hand bends position to create a view around the bend (I believe it’s called off-siding). I was once riding with such a rider on country lanes when he very nearly had a bad day with the front of a very large tractor that was filling most of the road.
Offsiding is something that was trained many years ago but taken out of Roadcraft as it was an obvious danger for normal civilians to be doing it. If every one trained to it and did it there would be carnage on our roads. Ok in the 1930's with only j horses and carts and little tractors on our country roads but now with over 40 million other vehicles it would be very dangerous. About the original road positioning prior to 2013 there were 5 positions. Number 5 being on a left hand bend being far over to the mid line and thus facing the possibility of any oncoming traffic coming round that bend . It was also then recommended to sacrifice that position to miss such traffic. Prior to 2013 I wrote to the police on that matter and suggested that whilst it was ok for the police to use it when and where needed there was really no reason to train civilians to initially place themselves in such a dangerous position in the first place and them ask them to extricate themselves ? They then published another Roadcraft in 2013 and it had only 3 positions they has removed the two that I suggested that were possibly dangerous and unnecessary. The two extreme ones which included position 1 and 5 were now excluded. That said those trained to 5 positions probably still do it and also train it. It is still trained to police officers, some don't read the latest Manual and some still train it. Really its the danger on left hand bends that is the problem. At other times that position is used but there are some dangers attached to it. The obvious one is of being closer to oncoming vehicles for example where we should be moving in , plus if there is no sight benefit at the speeds were are doing then just staying within the new 3 positions of position 2 or 3 which perhaps may be preferred or safer.
For 1 lane roundabouts or junctions im no longer going to move to the far left or right anynore when stopped at the edge when waiting. The amount of times drivers pushed in went beside me is gettin silly now.
Valuable reminders in this video, not just information for new riders!
Thanks Phil. When I’m now riding, I can hear your calm advice in my head. Great insights as always.
Thank you for another informative video. In my opinion the best available on RUclips. Regarding keeping to the left on blind left hand bends which I totally agree with there is another danger to watch out for. Because you’re leaning into the bend depending on your speed you must look out for tree branches or posts etc sticking out into your path which you could come in contact with so don’t get too close in, they are not easy to avoid in that lean in position. A small point but important to be in your head while you’re thinking about your ride and looking after yourself. It’s all about the speed! Keep up the good work 👍
Terrific video , full of life saving advice for everyone. I too try to ride in such a way that I won't hear Phil's voice saying, "That was a dumb move, why did you do that? "
Just returned to riding after 40 years. So glad I did a back to biking course. I have gleaned alot from your videos thank you. Especially found the class of new/returning riders really helpful.
Thank you.
Always good and thought-provoking stuff in your videos. Thank you. Les
Thanks Phil. Very helpful.
Excellent video as always.
I’ve heard lots of people say, when asked what position on road they take, say, to the right. Off centre. Not wrong in itself but that seems to be the ingrained, default.
Personally, I’ll say … all of it.
For the very reasons you’ve outlined.
I may have the wrong perception but I do think some riders are worried about using the road to their advantage, for whatever reason.
Great thanks
Great video and thought provoking. It always surprises me how some riders, even those with advanced rider training will on blind left hand bends position to create a view around the bend (I believe it’s called off-siding). I was once riding with such a rider on country lanes when he very nearly had a bad day with the front of a very large tractor that was filling most of the road.
Offsiding is something that was trained many years ago but taken out of Roadcraft as it was an obvious danger for normal civilians to be doing it. If every one trained to it and did it there would be carnage on our roads. Ok in the 1930's with only j horses and carts and little tractors on our country roads but now with over 40 million other vehicles it would be very dangerous.
About the original road positioning prior to 2013 there were 5 positions. Number 5 being on a left hand bend being far over to the mid line and thus facing the possibility of any oncoming traffic coming round that bend . It was also then recommended to sacrifice that position to miss such traffic. Prior to 2013 I wrote to the police on that matter and suggested that whilst it was ok for the police to use it when and where needed there was really no reason to train civilians to initially place themselves in such a dangerous position in the first place and them ask them to extricate themselves ?
They then published another Roadcraft in 2013 and it had only 3 positions they has removed the two that I suggested that were possibly dangerous and unnecessary. The two extreme ones which included position 1 and 5 were now excluded.
That said those trained to 5 positions probably still do it and also train it. It is still trained to police officers, some don't read the latest Manual and some still train it. Really its the danger on left hand bends that is the problem. At other times that position is used but there are some dangers attached to it. The obvious one is of being closer to oncoming vehicles for example where we should be moving in , plus if there is no sight benefit at the speeds were are doing then just staying within the new 3 positions of position 2 or 3 which perhaps may be preferred or safer.
For 1 lane roundabouts or junctions im no longer going to move to the far left or right anynore when stopped at the edge when waiting. The amount of times drivers pushed in went beside me is gettin silly now.
My opinion on why one should keep to ones side in tight bends: I don't want a better view of the radiator I would be about to kiss....
Some De Ja Vu with some footage here but good advice as ever ..TY
Hi aw8, yes, video is an updated version of the 2021 publication . I thought it needed refreshing. Hope you are well
@MotorcyclePWR 👍 Noted...All Good here Sir..TY