@@GamePlayuh9510 and if you check like 50% of these vtubers are all literal 304s in real life posing as "cute waifus" on the internet farming coomers. The personality they sell isn't even real. There is literally porn actresses that are vtubers who act like shy virgin maidens for the simps in chat LMAO
@FanAdvocacyNetwork man, simp and sucker is the worst type of person because they always defending and supporting someone even tho that person never care about them and just their attention and money. Making them even have unrealistic standar and mindset that they are on top of the world above anyone else become more narcicistic.
I knew she wasnt right in the head when she made a twitter post about blocking anyone hating on a trans character in apex, legends. like its a video game XD
@@sweetrolldealer What do you want them to do, publicly shame her? They have access to something we dont, which is the ability to talk to Froot privately.
I dont really get how she’s with vshojo if she harassed Silvervale and pikamee, Silvervale was also vshojo, and Pikamee is now in vshojo and has been since after being bullied.
"You don't kill goose that lays golden eggs." That's most likely the logic behind VShojo's management. Just like most Twitch thots get away with most shit.
Silvervale was also kinda extra needy and she distanced herself from the rest of Vshojo far before the drama, Ironmouse and others even twitted in her favour and that wasnt enough for her because she hadnt personally talked with them in 1 month, so that was on her, as for Pikamee, she is the definition of kindness, there is basically no way she holds on a grudge or doesnt forgive anyone
Both Froot and Silvervale are problematic members, but unless they're directly negatively affecting the company, it might've been better the stay out of it and let them hadnle it themselves.
Maybe, at the beginning, Pikamee didn't know Froot at all and was convinced by Kson to be a Vshojo VTuber like she did with Mikeneko. Once in Vshojo, Pikamee was aware who Froot really is and stopping to have any interaction with her. That's why she doesn't support Froot
Never had any respect for Froot. Her ex is an asshole, yes, but let's say that, hypothetically, that that 100% excuses the cheating in the past (imo it doesn't, it just means they're both assholes) that still doesn't excuse the 2 main reasons people don't like her. She threw people like Silvervale and Pikamee under the bus for playing a Harry Potter game and scammed people in the past with her business before vtubing. I think Froot is scared because she knows how much baggage is attached to her name and is hoping by saying she was abused people will forgive her of all wrong doings in the past. (edit: neat video by the way, like your personality, keep it up and you'll go places my guy)
Also, if she did not cheated, which somehow she implied in her document, because Kson did say something about smacking her for what she did although that's another topic, then why the need to address it? why not solve this privately since it has been some time since that? Even if someone out of the blue is accussing you of something, if that is not true (at least many people defending her says it's not true) why give attention, not check this out private and what's worse, address it as if if happened although not the way someone else depicted? The management shouldn't have let her nor the other girls talk about it openly, Froot should have left it private and took that into court or idk, and they shouldn't have made the others delete their comments. And tbh despite how many have seen the Kson statement, not only the way she expressed herself was SO wrong, cause it made her look like she will defend an awful person as long as its nice to her (which talks negatively about her views). She also should have read the entire doc to have the proper grasp of it and THEN, address this directly with Froot, not in X. This whole thing not only is an unnecessary mess, it has been poorly handed, strangely suspicious and left some girls in Vshojo with bad rep (or even more with some). And yeah, she is stupid for cheating, and the guy is even fucking worse for doing all that and deserves the electric chair as a minimum.
"Her ex is an asshole" You know, if I didn't knew the context of his deployment I would agreed with you. But soldiers end up with fked up heads after getting drilled and prepared for combat. Also, only her side of the story is known. If he ever spoked up about it, we would get an entirely different story, but i don't think he cares what randos like you or me think about him. I would say the dude is fked up? Probably. Is an asshole? Nah, dude went to war to defend his country. What have you done to defend your country? Whine on X? Good job, lol.
@@NONE.DragonThat guy is pretty fucked mentally, i hope he had found some type of mental help because his opinions are a combination of 50´s grandpa, cringe incel 4chaner and average vtuber simp
@@NONE.Dragon all she claimed he was "abusive" for is asking for marital relationship. Which is his right as husband. If she hated it so much, why did she go and do it with 5 other guys? The modernized relationship is literally cuckold hell, nothing more. Every guy in relationship I know besides the drug dealers from my neighbor are cucks. Imagine a society where only drug dealers aren't cucked.
The worst part about the vtuber community is the hand in hand connection to Twitter. Twitter is the worst place socially on the entire clear net. N the fact vtubers use it so consistently allows them to be targets of dumb shit, overly sensitive criticism, hasty posting when emotional or rage posting from headlines before having all the facts. This is why i only watch 1 vtubers streams n actively participate in her streams n career (BriAtCookieBox cus shes just funny n stays out of bullshit n keeps to herself) all these super popular vtubers let the twitter shit get way too invested in their lives n it always backfires when they have skeletons in their closets yet virtue signal against other ppl being hypocrites
Honest question why she needed to post this on social media? Did the ex came foward first and she had to explain herself? Or did she just posted about it to gain attention?
I think some smaller Vtuber tried saying she cheated on her husband, really didn't need a response but Froot chose to respond and really just thrive off more drama
Her EX never mentioned anything. She was the one who said she Cheated on him with 5 guys, out of nowhere with no one asking. Her husband left her because she cheated on him while he was deployed, than later she started dating another person and that person cheated on her, so she went to twitter and talked about how she cheated on her husband with 5 guys while he was deployed. So people made fun of her and she claimed victimhood.
@lucasljs1545 you are so fucking wrong in this. She never said any of that. Putting words in her mouth, you are. Some fuck ass named Ant-hime misunderstood a rumor of another fucking vtuber who fucked 5 dudes at a convention and turned it into a rumor about froot. Yall 🤡. Learn your shit before spitting your incorrect facts
The problem with deleting the tweeter is that you embark on the Nijisanji road of "clearly to see bad decisions". When the next Froot problem happens people will see that VShojo promises freedom and let a very damaging 90pg doc up from Froot and took a measly tweet down from Kson. Not helping is the fact that Froot seems to have a position of privilege in VShojo given her receiving many instances of favoritism and also that Froot is despised while KSon is cherished. Now both VShojo and Froot added more items to their lists of bad behavior.
Comeuppance at last, only for a moment. The community should have taken note a year ago, when it all came out, or when Ant-hime doubled down. Slow reaction, with limited real impact on Froot, I imagine.
The fact that vshojo was running errand boy for froots by striking anthime with copyright was very telling that she was two faced. Now vshojo takes a back seat now and let her defend herself. Its why you barely see her in collabs with other members/ events. She is also still being attacked to this day for her actions ever since ant hime released the video about her.
Vtubers are slowly fading from relevancy. They were a nice escape from reality but now it’s just a nest pit of drama everywhere. Could give less of a shit but that 90 page document on trying to justify yourself basically screams that you’re trying to spin a story.
Just don't watch western vtubers my god, they've been horrible since in the early beginnings only small amount of EN vtubers are good, although some of them is in a agency that has a nice reputation which is Hololive.
@@RyuSaarva yeah but The problem still there, that's The true danger of this, and obviously I don't watch Vtubers Because its pretty creppy to see a 2D thing hidding a person that probably can have shaddy stuff behind them
Watch Phase Connect. They are a decent Vtuber company with talented streamers I have come across. They also have much more freedom than Hololive. If Idol Vtubers are more your style than I'm not sure other than the obvious. Filian is another cool Vtuber and doesn't get involved in drama like this.
Saphera said it the best in her latest video about vtuber drama in general, vtubers are simply not used to drama (at all), they are still babies in this, as it goes on more drama and more things will come out
Another aspect of this is that a lot, and I mean A LOT, of VTubers have had rough times of it. I don't mean this in a negative or insulting way, but quite literally, especially in VShojo. Zentreya, Henya, Kson, Michi, IronMouse, and yes even Froot. Health conditions, bullying, rough childhoods, and toxic work environments. You name it. They have suffered it. A lot of them have spoken openly that they turned to VTubing for a release and to find friends. So, in a way, I can understand if they jump to defend somebody. That said, it shouldn't be blind defense. More importantly to me is why is Froot dredging this sh!t up now, years later and after the divorce? If you don't want shit, don't dig up what has been buried.
I don't know if you know about the Nux vs. Vshojo drama from a while back. After that fiasco, I basically swore off Vshojo entirely. At least the original 7 members. Now, since then Nux went and defended Charlie and his stupid viral take in his stream with Sneako, which caused me to lose respect for him as well, but the thing between him and Vshojo... Let's just say I would not trust any of them after that.
Nux was proven to get other people banned for fun, aswell as spreading rumors about TaigaHolic being a pdf file which was really out of pocket. If you people take information from asmon and nux I don't know what the epitome of your intellect looks during testing/interview hours, jesus christ.
I wish they put that spiderman meme pointing at each other in that way feels like the viewers take on who to trust edit their heads there and voila master piece what's truly happening in the vtuber community right now 😂
@@chancekoehler7578 I would suggest looking into it. Several people did videos on it. The moistcritikal and sneako stream. It's not something everyone will care about, but it definitely put me off.
I don’t see what kson is expected to do here lol. If she doesn’t make a post she’ll be in trouble for not supporting her friends, if she does she has to tip toe over everything and even when she does ppl get mad at her for not taking a side.
They are stupid, IDKN if they think that The pepole that watch them are stupid or they are hoping that Simps defend them like The Japanese fans with their oshis 🤷
Haven't watched anything about them since the Nux vs. Vshojo incident, where they tried to throw him under the bus _after_ he helped them fix a problem they couldn't be bothered to. I don't particularly care for Nux, at least anymore, but Vshojo was rather obviously the villains in that case.
was about to buy a vshojo nendoroid now I don't want to anymore. Gonna just stick with Hololive. In my perspective I kinda understand why nyanners and other vtubers left Vshojo, cause if any drama involving one of a Vshojo member, would impact all of Vshojo members, therefore the whole Vshojo image as a whole to the public like a domino effect which is a huge hassle in my opinion.
@@Gabbycatty I forgot about that one. The reason I started avoiding him was because of his defense of Charlie on that stream he did with Sneako, where he defended child transitioning.
@@GamePlayuh9510 except you misunderstood what he was saying because that wasn't what he was saying. He said sneako was being very obnoxious about his phrasing so he didn't think both of them were being literal, it isn't legal for a child to transition so what he was meaning to say was a child could talk about it with their parents, but it would be something that would have to happen once they're 18
While Eastern vtubers are going to ve around for a long time, western vtubers seem to be losing a lot of ground and might be on their way out in the coming years.
Here’s something I don’t see getting brought up and it bugs me. Why was most of the abuse in DMs on discord sure it makes sense at a glance that the husband was deployed so they used discord to talk but in her document she says she never lived in his home so then where did froot live ? Then it hit me for most of these DMs froot was in the UK. Why is that important well simple her ex husband is in the military if she broke up or blocked him what’s he going to do go AWOL and travel to the UK so he can have a face to face confrontation. At any point she could have ghosted and blocked him it’s was all simply one click away. She also snitched on herself to with the document since each time she travels to meet him in the US she calls it a vacation that’s may sound like a small insignificant detail but if you know that the UK shares a treaty with the US that allows entry in the country without a visa for up to 90 days as long as the purpose is tourism but you will be denied entry again if you don’t spend at minimum the same amount of time elsewhere before trying to return to the US. As for why she used vacation and why it’s a self snitch it’s simple to enter the US to dwell with your spouse you need a visa so by calling her spending time with her spouse a vacation she didn’t lie to enter the US but she also has to abide by the vacation rules of maximum 3 months in the US and a minimum of 3 months outside it. She wasn’t a woman who couldn’t escape an over domineering man she literally had a government backed get out of jail free card by just calling the cops and reporting herself to be deported. None of this is to say she wasn’t harassed or mistreated just that it seems like she’s manipulating the facts to make it look worse
It’s so funny because Nogla reacted to the whole Froot situation and kind of made fun of it, and some of the VTubers got mad at Nogla, and Nogla was all like, “I did it for the memes!” 😂
I don't think Kson delete her tweet is a good thing. The only reason I can see Vshojo asking her to delete her tweet is because of its a bad look for sponsors. I don't this drama is all that much, the truth is somewhere in between the middle probably. I don't think anyone is in the right and both are not good people. I don't condone harassing froot or anybody that supported her. If you don't like her than shut up and don't watch her.
True thats why Vshojo is full of drama and skeletons on The closet by all members, even nux with The Nux Vshojo drama, and The actual thing defending The sexual transition of kids
Wasn't this covered like a month ago? Why all the sudden surge of Froot? I know what she did and all but why is she getting reprimanded by the community now?
She posted a Google doc full of out of context messages that may or may not even be real, half truths, and lies. She spun the ever living hell out of the situation and danced around the cheating and how it pushed her partner to want to die. “Exercising my bodily autonomy”
Tbh i really could not care less except for it popping up over and over. She cheated thats kinda scummy, its not illegal, it wasent me she cheated on. I can understand it from a moral standpoint but wow does it ever blow up everytime.
@@morewi I can kinda understand that. much better reason but its rarely mentioned its allways that shes a cheater. I dont watch her either but the whole thing is very.. weird.
@@Smithy779 "If you get a marriage license but do not follow through with the taking of vows in front of someone authorized to conduct a wedding, you are not married." which is what happened I believe since she mentioned that they had no ceremony and without her family. the guy wanted marriage to get out of the barracks.
@@finalcartoneer2922 Fair, still doesnt excuse cheating though, if she doesnt like him then call it off, who cares what bs he says he will do, if he even said it. Its her life not his.
@@Smithy779 if she did cheat then thats on her ofc, but i have yet to see evidence that she did cheat, i cant find anywhere in the document where its implied. before you mention it, the "exercised my body autonomy" thing was most likely because of her not wanting to do a sexual act that he kept trying to pressure her into. it doesn't imply she cheated with that line.
@@finalcartoneer2922 Hey im just repeating what other people have said, she isnt exactly doing herself any favors by going silent. If its a misunderstanding, then she needs to clear things up instead of ignoring the claims, silence makes her seem guilty not innocent. Naturally if it turns out she is innocent then i retract everything i said, though im just repeating what ive heard.
Kson was told to delete her post because she believed people lying to her about Froot cheating and worded her post in a way that leaves room for people to point to it as admitting to Froot cheating...which she didn’t. The screenshot used by the abuser to claim she cheated is dated after Froot announced she was separated from the abuser.
"abuser" kek, imagine believing this. She is the abuser, she abused Silvervale while she was receiving literal death threats, with people trying to find where she lives and breaking down on stream. Why would any sane person believe her words? She was the one who said she cheated on him on her twitter, she said it herself. You probably weren't there when she did it, because if you knew this girl from before she was a vtuber you would not be here defending her.
@@darthchewee She didn't, during the Hogwarts Legacy controversy she left a comment in Silvervales chat during a stream, one comment. "i love all my friends everyone makes mistakes its only human" a straight objective reading of the comment shows it's her attempt at being supportive but with the drama happening around the time combined with her already having her fair share of haters meant it was interpreted to be her backstabbing a colleague and added a bunch of BS speculation on top of it.
-NIJISANJI NOOO!!!
-What?
-...Oh. Sorry. Force of habit.
Made me spit out my drink😂
"management told me to delete this so I did"
Cool "talent freedom" you got there, sister! Totally worth leaving Hololive for!
China #1
may have been a liability issue
it wasnt the "right" talent freedom that she wanted xD
The reason she left Hololive wasn't trying to get freedom... Chinese people being butthurt over Taiwan existing was.
@@jhondidfool Taiwan better aim for the Three Gorges Dam to prove them wrong.
Love to see the vtuber fans in the comments defending this absolutely reprehensible behaviour without coming off as simps.
Simps and suckers are the bane of the Vtuber community.
@@TactikalTemplar In fairness, the vtuber community, as well as the gacha and idol communities, wouldn't really exist without simps and suckers.
@@TactikalTemplar bro you simped for a fake Gabe Newell account. Sit your fat voice down
@@GamePlayuh9510 and if you check like 50% of these vtubers are all literal 304s in real life posing as "cute waifus" on the internet farming coomers. The personality they sell isn't even real.
There is literally porn actresses that are vtubers who act like shy virgin maidens for the simps in chat LMAO
@FanAdvocacyNetwork man, simp and sucker is the worst type of person because they always defending and supporting someone even tho that person never care about them and just their attention and money.
Making them even have unrealistic standar and mindset that they are on top of the world above anyone else become more narcicistic.
I knew she wasnt right in the head when she made a twitter post about blocking anyone hating on a trans character in apex, legends. like its a video game XD
True thats a red flag of The size of The chinise flag 💀
90% of Vshojo is still supporting froot. I know Ironmouse, Michi, Haruka, Hime, and many more.
Woman will always defend bad behavior by other women
@@morewi Then call them sluts behind their back. It weird how they do that. Publicly defends but secretly hates.
As they should. You can be disappointed in a friend, but still support them against the attacks from the ignorant masses.
@@anewfuture Here's the thing, their support is more of brushing it under the rug and ignoring her horrible actions.
@@sweetrolldealer What do you want them to do, publicly shame her? They have access to something we dont, which is the ability to talk to Froot privately.
I dont really get how she’s with vshojo if she harassed Silvervale and pikamee, Silvervale was also vshojo, and Pikamee is now in vshojo and has been since after being bullied.
"You don't kill goose that lays golden eggs." That's most likely the logic behind VShojo's management. Just like most Twitch thots get away with most shit.
Silvervale was also kinda extra needy and she distanced herself from the rest of Vshojo far before the drama, Ironmouse and others even twitted in her favour and that wasnt enough for her because she hadnt personally talked with them in 1 month, so that was on her, as for Pikamee, she is the definition of kindness, there is basically no way she holds on a grudge or doesnt forgive anyone
Both Froot and Silvervale are problematic members, but unless they're directly negatively affecting the company, it might've been better the stay out of it and let them hadnle it themselves.
Maybe, at the beginning, Pikamee didn't know Froot at all and was convinced by Kson to be a Vshojo VTuber like she did with Mikeneko. Once in Vshojo, Pikamee was aware who Froot really is and stopping to have any interaction with her. That's why she doesn't support Froot
Never had any respect for Froot. Her ex is an asshole, yes, but let's say that, hypothetically, that that 100% excuses the cheating in the past (imo it doesn't, it just means they're both assholes) that still doesn't excuse the 2 main reasons people don't like her. She threw people like Silvervale and Pikamee under the bus for playing a Harry Potter game and scammed people in the past with her business before vtubing. I think Froot is scared because she knows how much baggage is attached to her name and is hoping by saying she was abused people will forgive her of all wrong doings in the past. (edit: neat video by the way, like your personality, keep it up and you'll go places my guy)
Also, if she did not cheated, which somehow she implied in her document, because Kson did say something about smacking her for what she did although that's another topic, then why the need to address it? why not solve this privately since it has been some time since that?
Even if someone out of the blue is accussing you of something, if that is not true (at least many people defending her says it's not true) why give attention, not check this out private and what's worse, address it as if if happened although not the way someone else depicted?
The management shouldn't have let her nor the other girls talk about it openly, Froot should have left it private and took that into court or idk, and they shouldn't have made the others delete their comments.
And tbh despite how many have seen the Kson statement, not only the way she expressed herself was SO wrong, cause it made her look like she will defend an awful person as long as its nice to her (which talks negatively about her views). She also should have read the entire doc to have the proper grasp of it and THEN, address this directly with Froot, not in X.
This whole thing not only is an unnecessary mess, it has been poorly handed, strangely suspicious and left some girls in Vshojo with bad rep (or even more with some).
And yeah, she is stupid for cheating, and the guy is even fucking worse for doing all that and deserves the electric chair as a minimum.
"Her ex is an asshole" You know, if I didn't knew the context of his deployment I would agreed with you. But soldiers end up with fked up heads after getting drilled and prepared for combat. Also, only her side of the story is known. If he ever spoked up about it, we would get an entirely different story, but i don't think he cares what randos like you or me think about him. I would say the dude is fked up? Probably. Is an asshole? Nah, dude went to war to defend his country. What have you done to defend your country? Whine on X? Good job, lol.
@@NONE.DragonThat guy is pretty fucked mentally, i hope he had found some type of mental help because his opinions are a combination of 50´s grandpa, cringe incel 4chaner and average vtuber simp
@@NONE.Dragon all she claimed he was "abusive" for is asking for marital relationship. Which is his right as husband. If she hated it so much, why did she go and do it with 5 other guys?
The modernized relationship is literally cuckold hell, nothing more. Every guy in relationship I know besides the drug dealers from my neighbor are cucks. Imagine a society where only drug dealers aren't cucked.
@@alanantoniogarzaescamilla164 If he is as bad as she is making him out to be.
Is anyone surprised about some of them since the Nuxtaku incident?
Zentreya saying nothing this time around is actually a smart move
Even Nux fell so he's no better
@@TheMockingjay74 how?
@@chasmriscraig Ruined a guy's life
@@chasmriscraig He's somewhat responsible for the Bungo Taiga situation... and when he DID "apologize" it wasn't on his main channel.
She literally cheated on him and tried to pass it off as "bodily autonomy"
It was an erp lmao. If you associate erp with actual cheating you really need to touch some grass
@@RXRXRXDB she literally said herself she cheated on him years ago.
You coomers defending her are hilarious.
@@RXRXRXDB mentally ill coomer
@@RXRXRXDB Are you braindead? Even Froot herself equated it to cheating, lol by her own logic you're fucking wrong.
@@RXRXRXDBif you do erp you need to touch grass and throw your phone and computer away
Also you left out kson's followup tweets where she admits to being gullable at times and that evil people lied to her about Froot
The worst part about the vtuber community is the hand in hand connection to Twitter. Twitter is the worst place socially on the entire clear net. N the fact vtubers use it so consistently allows them to be targets of dumb shit, overly sensitive criticism, hasty posting when emotional or rage posting from headlines before having all the facts. This is why i only watch 1 vtubers streams n actively participate in her streams n career (BriAtCookieBox cus shes just funny n stays out of bullshit n keeps to herself) all these super popular vtubers let the twitter shit get way too invested in their lives n it always backfires when they have skeletons in their closets yet virtue signal against other ppl being hypocrites
Honest question why she needed to post this on social media? Did the ex came foward first and she had to explain herself? Or did she just posted about it to gain attention?
The latter. Google “Subtember”
I think some smaller Vtuber tried saying she cheated on her husband, really didn't need a response but Froot chose to respond and really just thrive off more drama
Her EX never mentioned anything. She was the one who said she Cheated on him with 5 guys, out of nowhere with no one asking.
Her husband left her because she cheated on him while he was deployed, than later she started dating another person and that person cheated on her, so she went to twitter and talked about how she cheated on her husband with 5 guys while he was deployed. So people made fun of her and she claimed victimhood.
@lucasljs1545 you are so fucking wrong in this. She never said any of that. Putting words in her mouth, you are. Some fuck ass named Ant-hime misunderstood a rumor of another fucking vtuber who fucked 5 dudes at a convention and turned it into a rumor about froot. Yall 🤡. Learn your shit before spitting your incorrect facts
Looking at Kson's tweet I don't think she needed to delete it.
legal mindset covered it. it was best to be deleted
its an awful take on the subject in business terms
The problem with deleting the tweeter is that you embark on the Nijisanji road of "clearly to see bad decisions". When the next Froot problem happens people will see that VShojo promises freedom and let a very damaging 90pg doc up from Froot and took a measly tweet down from Kson. Not helping is the fact that Froot seems to have a position of privilege in VShojo given her receiving many instances of favoritism and also that Froot is despised while KSon is cherished.
Now both VShojo and Froot added more items to their lists of bad behavior.
18:43 - 19:04
I don't like to leave "This" comments, but "This" is the moment everything clicked for me
Comeuppance at last, only for a moment. The community should have taken note a year ago, when it all came out, or when Ant-hime doubled down. Slow reaction, with limited real impact on Froot, I imagine.
The fact that vshojo was running errand boy for froots by striking anthime with copyright was very telling that she was two faced. Now vshojo takes a back seat now and let her defend herself. Its why you barely see her in collabs with other members/ events. She is also still being attacked to this day for her actions ever since ant hime released the video about her.
Vtubers are slowly fading from relevancy. They were a nice escape from reality but now it’s just a nest pit of drama everywhere. Could give less of a shit but that 90 page document on trying to justify yourself basically screams that you’re trying to spin a story.
Basically like all IRL streamers and RUclipsrs that to stay relevant they make drama and shit like that, The only thing that is that is disgusting
Just don't watch western vtubers my god, they've been horrible since in the early beginnings only small amount of EN vtubers are good, although some of them is in a agency that has a nice reputation which is Hololive.
Do not watch western twitch vtubers and your problem is solved.
@@RyuSaarva yeah but The problem still there, that's The true danger of this, and obviously I don't watch Vtubers Because its pretty creppy to see a 2D thing hidding a person that probably can have shaddy stuff behind them
Watch Phase Connect. They are a decent Vtuber company with talented streamers I have come across. They also have much more freedom than Hololive. If Idol Vtubers are more your style than I'm not sure other than the obvious. Filian is another cool Vtuber and doesn't get involved in drama like this.
Saphera said it the best in her latest video about vtuber drama in general, vtubers are simply not used to drama (at all), they are still babies in this, as it goes on more drama and more things will come out
Another aspect of this is that a lot, and I mean A LOT, of VTubers have had rough times of it. I don't mean this in a negative or insulting way, but quite literally, especially in VShojo. Zentreya, Henya, Kson, Michi, IronMouse, and yes even Froot. Health conditions, bullying, rough childhoods, and toxic work environments. You name it. They have suffered it. A lot of them have spoken openly that they turned to VTubing for a release and to find friends. So, in a way, I can understand if they jump to defend somebody.
That said, it shouldn't be blind defense. More importantly to me is why is Froot dredging this sh!t up now, years later and after the divorce? If you don't want shit, don't dig up what has been buried.
I don't know if you know about the Nux vs. Vshojo drama from a while back. After that fiasco, I basically swore off Vshojo entirely. At least the original 7 members. Now, since then Nux went and defended Charlie and his stupid viral take in his stream with Sneako, which caused me to lose respect for him as well, but the thing between him and Vshojo... Let's just say I would not trust any of them after that.
Nux was proven to get other people banned for fun, aswell as spreading rumors about TaigaHolic being a pdf file which was really out of pocket.
If you people take information from asmon and nux I don't know what the epitome of your intellect looks during testing/interview hours, jesus christ.
I wish they put that spiderman meme pointing at each other in that way feels like the viewers take on who to trust edit their heads there and voila master piece what's truly happening in the vtuber community right now 😂
it seems like the vtuber community is just full of absolutely awful people
What's wrong with charlie?
@@chancekoehler7578 I would suggest looking into it. Several people did videos on it. The moistcritikal and sneako stream. It's not something everyone will care about, but it definitely put me off.
It doesn't matter. I already unsubbed those that showed support for the snake.
I don’t see what kson is expected to do here lol. If she doesn’t make a post she’ll be in trouble for not supporting her friends, if she does she has to tip toe over everything and even when she does ppl get mad at her for not taking a side.
2 Wrongs don’t make a right. These vtubers are sometimes goofy💀
They are stupid, IDKN if they think that The pepole that watch them are stupid or they are hoping that Simps defend them like The Japanese fans with their oshis 🤷
The vtuber community deals in high school level drama, and it's not even entertaining.
@@billyboy8534 true its sad too see people with 30 or more years old throwing shit Because yes, or Because they are having less and less popularity
They turn on their own so easily. 😆
You might be interested in watching depressed nousagi video of froot
Good thing I don't watch Vshojo anymore
Haven't watched anything about them since the Nux vs. Vshojo incident, where they tried to throw him under the bus _after_ he helped them fix a problem they couldn't be bothered to. I don't particularly care for Nux, at least anymore, but Vshojo was rather obviously the villains in that case.
@@GamePlayuh9510 nux ruined a whole vtubers life over false accusations
was about to buy a vshojo nendoroid now I don't want to anymore. Gonna just stick with Hololive.
In my perspective I kinda understand why nyanners and other vtubers left Vshojo, cause if any drama involving one of a Vshojo member, would impact all of Vshojo members, therefore the whole Vshojo image as a whole to the public like a domino effect which is a huge hassle in my opinion.
@@Gabbycatty I forgot about that one. The reason I started avoiding him was because of his defense of Charlie on that stream he did with Sneako, where he defended child transitioning.
@@GamePlayuh9510 except you misunderstood what he was saying because that wasn't what he was saying. He said sneako was being very obnoxious about his phrasing so he didn't think both of them were being literal, it isn't legal for a child to transition so what he was meaning to say was a child could talk about it with their parents, but it would be something that would have to happen once they're 18
So the guy treats his girl like shit and didnt expect her to find someone who wouldn't?
While Eastern vtubers are going to ve around for a long time, western vtubers seem to be losing a lot of ground and might be on their way out in the coming years.
The ones that will stick around are the ones that either are very big or stay away from drama circles
What i learn from years of watching vtubers is: no vshojo no drama, stress and depression
Here’s something I don’t see getting brought up and it bugs me.
Why was most of the abuse in DMs on discord sure it makes sense at a glance that the husband was deployed so they used discord to talk but in her document she says she never lived in his home so then where did froot live ?
Then it hit me for most of these DMs froot was in the UK.
Why is that important well simple her ex husband is in the military if she broke up or blocked him what’s he going to do go AWOL and travel to the UK so he can have a face to face confrontation.
At any point she could have ghosted and blocked him it’s was all simply one click away.
She also snitched on herself to with the document since each time she travels to meet him in the US she calls it a vacation that’s may sound like a small insignificant detail but if you know that the UK shares a treaty with the US that allows entry in the country without a visa for up to 90 days as long as the purpose is tourism but you will be denied entry again if you don’t spend at minimum the same amount of time elsewhere before trying to return to the US.
As for why she used vacation and why it’s a self snitch it’s simple to enter the US to dwell with your spouse you need a visa so by calling her spending time with her spouse a vacation she didn’t lie to enter the US but she also has to abide by the vacation rules of maximum 3 months in the US and a minimum of 3 months outside it.
She wasn’t a woman who couldn’t escape an over domineering man she literally had a government backed get out of jail free card by just calling the cops and reporting herself to be deported.
None of this is to say she wasn’t harassed or mistreated just that it seems like she’s manipulating the facts to make it look worse
Okay, I am out of the loop. What happened?
I'm watching the cope on reddit. it's all "believe all women no matter what" tier bs.
It's a good thing i said everyone who was involved with that doc were in the wrong lol
7:50 It’s the cult of collectivism.
It’s so funny because Nogla reacted to the whole Froot situation and kind of made fun of it, and some of the VTubers got mad at Nogla, and Nogla was all like, “I did it for the memes!” 😂
the fact that her ex "husband" alleged her as cheating while froot was single right before the "cheating" leak stuff. how is that even cheating?
I don't think Kson delete her tweet is a good thing. The only reason I can see Vshojo asking her to delete her tweet is because of its a bad look for sponsors. I don't this drama is all that much, the truth is somewhere in between the middle probably. I don't think anyone is in the right and both are not good people. I don't condone harassing froot or anybody that supported her. If you don't like her than shut up and don't watch her.
True thats why Vshojo is full of drama and skeletons on The closet by all members, even nux with The Nux Vshojo drama, and The actual thing defending The sexual transition of kids
You don't hate vtubers enough
You think you do, but you don't
Wasn't this covered like a month ago? Why all the sudden surge of Froot? I know what she did and all but why is she getting reprimanded by the community now?
She posted a Google doc full of out of context messages that may or may not even be real, half truths, and lies. She spun the ever living hell out of the situation and danced around the cheating and how it pushed her partner to want to die. “Exercising my bodily autonomy”
She released a Google doc to X.
@@TactikalTemplar So more has been discovered about Froot due to the doc then?
man i miss the days that cheating was scorned all it does is hurt.
The website is Questionable Questing.
parody gabe newell a real one though
That sucks I really liked fruit. She seemed really sweet.
Well damn...late to the party...aw man.
Asmongold deleted the video.
What a pussy Asmon is at times. He is malleable.
He made the same mistake as Kson, know only the top of the iceberg
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Hey maybe it's just me be i cant find where she cheated, and it would be helpful if someone could help me find it
Word of mouth by her ex, no physical, digital, or likely evidence besides a smeer campaign to dmonize someone.
It was on a vod years ago, it's long gone, but she admitted to cheating on her deployed husband with 5 guys
No actual evidence of cheating since in january 2018 the guy broke up with her and in february 2018 was the actual time any of the "cheating" started.
@antoinedavis924 after a ton of research, I can safely say I couldn't find definitive proof of the cheating at all.
Tbh i really could not care less except for it popping up over and over. She cheated thats kinda scummy, its not illegal, it wasent me she cheated on. I can understand it from a moral standpoint but wow does it ever blow up everytime.
It's more than the cheating thing. I don't watch her but people got pissed off at the Hogwarts/slivervale thing
It's that people are defending her cheating
@@morewi I can kinda understand that. much better reason but its rarely mentioned its allways that shes a cheater. I dont watch her either but the whole thing is very.. weird.
@@ChaoticDarkthrones They are? Ive mostly seen people calling her scum for cheating. You mean the other Vshojo ppl this time around?
@@notserious9990 It's primarily on Twitter (no surprise)
Lol 😂
Dawg.
Voice isolation. Get the fan out of your audio
I’ll add two fans next time.
Well, apparently there is proof that she didn't cheat on him, since she had broken up with him before he went into the military.
How do you break up with someone you are married to.... without a divorce?
Sounds like cheating to me.
@@Smithy779 "If you get a marriage license but do not follow through with the taking of vows in front of someone authorized to conduct a wedding, you are not married." which is what happened I believe since she mentioned that they had no ceremony and without her family. the guy wanted marriage to get out of the barracks.
@@finalcartoneer2922 Fair, still doesnt excuse cheating though, if she doesnt like him then call it off, who cares what bs he says he will do, if he even said it.
Its her life not his.
@@Smithy779 if she did cheat then thats on her ofc, but i have yet to see evidence that she did cheat, i cant find anywhere in the document where its implied. before you mention it, the "exercised my body autonomy" thing was most likely because of her not wanting to do a sexual act that he kept trying to pressure her into. it doesn't imply she cheated with that line.
@@finalcartoneer2922 Hey im just repeating what other people have said, she isnt exactly doing herself any favors by going silent.
If its a misunderstanding, then she needs to clear things up instead of ignoring the claims, silence makes her seem guilty not innocent.
Naturally if it turns out she is innocent then i retract everything i said, though im just repeating what ive heard.
Kson was told to delete her post because she believed people lying to her about Froot cheating and worded her post in a way that leaves room for people to point to it as admitting to Froot cheating...which she didn’t. The screenshot used by the abuser to claim she cheated is dated after Froot announced she was separated from the abuser.
"abuser" kek, imagine believing this.
She is the abuser, she abused Silvervale while she was receiving literal death threats, with people trying to find where she lives and breaking down on stream.
Why would any sane person believe her words? She was the one who said she cheated on him on her twitter, she said it herself. You probably weren't there when she did it, because if you knew this girl from before she was a vtuber you would not be here defending her.
@@lucasljs1545 how did she abuse Silver?
@@darthchewee mentally ill coomers like you are what is wrong with modern society, there is no redemption for you.
@@darthchewee She didn't, during the Hogwarts Legacy controversy she left a comment in Silvervales chat during a stream, one comment. "i love all my friends everyone makes mistakes its only human" a straight objective reading of the comment shows it's her attempt at being supportive but with the drama happening around the time combined with her already having her fair share of haters meant it was interpreted to be her backstabbing a colleague and added a bunch of BS speculation on top of it.
@CraigBickerstaff that comment was made in her own chat, it has the broadcaster badge
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Lmao, if she have donated to THAT charity, you'd be getting your panties in a twist over her donating money to child groomers, lmao.